Pikmin 4 is... Pikmin 2 TWO
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- I'm super excited for Pikmin 4. While the initial reveal didn't leave much information to go off of, there are a ton of details hidden within the latest trailer indicating that this game is going to be quite different from its predecessor. My biggest takeaway is that Pikmin 4 is shaping up to be quite similar to Pikmin 2 while expanding on its core concepts, and in this video I attempt to examine and explain what exactly those are.
Chapters
0:00 Pikmin 4 is Finally Almost Here
2:01 Pikmin 4 is Pikmin 2 Two
5:28 Pikmin 2 Predictions
7:15 Oatchi!
9:54 Pikmin 4 Looks Weird... But in the Best Way
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The idea of going into the house is amazing, maybe we could even get a literal gluttons kitchen this time?
I'm just imagining a line of breadbugs marching like ants!
@@wizawhat that analogy literally describes the game's concept Xd
@@wizawhat breadmin
Fat broke guy living there lmao
I have a feeling the giant breadbug is gonna appear ngl
I'm so hype for Pikmin 4, especially because of the music. I don't know why, but I always liked Pikmin music. It's so calm and nostalgic. :)
I really hope they haven't ditched multiple playable captains. Multitasking in 2 and especially 3 felt sooo good. It was so great being able to leave a captain by the onion to pluck pikmin while you're off doing something else. Then you could send them to you with reinforcements with "go here".
I also hope caves are a bit more...thought out than in 2. I see no benefit to the procedural generation. When I played 2 for the first time years ago, I didn't even realize the caves were random like that. If I had to replay a cave, I didn't have the layout memorized anyway, and the caves are so samey, that I didn't even notice that it was different. I'd rather the cave layouts be hand crafted to keep the quality up and make them more unique.
One of the reasons I think they're downsizing is because while there are four captains in the trailer, it just doesn't quite make sense to have four playable characters at once. Two or three is the sweet spot I think, so it makes sense that they want to give two characters a shot again with a totally new spin on the concept.
I also hope the caves are a little more varied. I honestly completely forgot they were procedurally generated as well. It was probably a cool gimmick back when the game first came out but I don't love it anymore. That being said, as long as the above ground level design continues to improve I won't be disappointed if the caves don't advance that much.
@@wizawhat I agree that four playable captains is too many. It was nice having a third, but it was rare for me to make good use of all three at once. I just hope it's not just a single captain plus Oatchi, as it looks like Oatchi can't do much on its own.
Trailer dissection and speculation videos are fun on their own, but it's always so much better when that analysis comes from a place of genuine appreciation for the topic. You clearly have a love and dedication to Pikmin, so I'm looking forward to seeing what else you talk about in the lead-up to Pikmin 4 and your series retrospective. I'm sure everyone will learn a lot when that time comes. Really enjoyed this video, Steve.
Thank you Alex! Hope I can make the Pikmin fans proud
I've only ever tried the Pikmin 3 demo but may end up having to check this one out. Your passion for the series really has me excited and they seem like they would fulfill a unique niche of relaxing problem solving
It's funny you say that because overall I think Pikmin can be pretty relaxing, but there are are plenty of really hectic moments
YOUVE ONLY PLAYED THE DEMO?!
@@UphillBridge There's so many games to play!
For me Pikmin 4 is a perfect scenario because it was announced like not even 2 weeks after I started High School and is going to come out in the summer only about a month after the end of Freshman Year. I mean I was like 7 or 8 when I first played it on the Wii U so that gives you an idea of how long it’s been.
I'm glad to see young Pikmin fans. I was just entering my senior year of high school when Pikmin 3 came out!
Uuummmm, I was a senior in high school when the first Pikmin was released… I’ll be 40 in May… 😮
I have put together that oatchi will be for scouting areas, something for planning out the next day. Ice pikmin are used to make bridges for the pikmin to take stuff back to the onion. With blue pikmin seeming unnecessary, i think they will be used for going deep underwater. Imagine there's some treasures at the bottom at a giant kiddie pool, the ice pikmin can't freeze it because there's too much water, and oatchi can't dive underwater. The blue pikmin could be used for grabbing those treasures.
the theory of the new playable character being the child of alph and brittany doesn't hold up when you realize that alph and brittany are from koppai but this new captain is from hocotate, you can see that in the fact that this new character has pointy ears, people from koppai have round ears, so yeah the whole theory of koppai and hocotate trading technology doesn't hold up cause every captain we see in the trailer has pointy, hocotatian ears (also the text on the ship says hocotate)
Personally I think pikmin 4 will be about you being apart of a rescue team (hence the seemingly trained dog Oatchi) and you're on PNF-404 with the objective to rescue some people who ran into trouble and the other three captains you see in the trailer stay on the big ship and take care of people rescued and other story stuff. Though this doesn't quite explain why you're also grabbing treasures. My other thought is maybe you're a space explorer
I really like that idea of them being a rescue team. Instead of collecting ship parts, treasures, or fruits, you're just collecting castaway captains all across the map that each are their own character. That would be so cool!
@@wizawhat yeah I think some castaways might be playable but some might be npcs you chat with like the daily messages. I do wonder how many there will be and if we'll get a time limit to rescue them before their suits run out of resources
I remember buying a gamecube again (original GC laser burned out) just to play pikmin 2.
That's awesome man. The Gamecube is one of my favorite consoles!
WAIT a deal between hocotate and koppaite could be right! They might have made a deal to go back to PNF 404, as we saw in the trailer there were fruit AND treasure, so maybe the koppaites get the fruit and hocotate gets the treasure? Or maybe we use fruit to survive more days and treasure is what we need to repay our debt or whatever we do in Pikmin 4!
I’ve never played a Pikmin game to present, but hearing you speculate so passionately as a lover of the franchise was very enjoyable, Wiz, thank you for sharing this ✌🏻
I haven't been so excited for a Nintendo release in years.
And although I missed Pikmin 3 with not having a Wii U; I'm more than happy to pick up where I left off. Pikmin 2 was one of my favorite games growing up and I couldn't agree more when you said that this series is at it's best when it's strange. Wacky and surprisingly hopeful will always be the two main ingredients I look for in Pikmin, and I'm smiling ear to ear knowing that's exactly what we'll get.
Fantastic work as always.
Thanks Kyle, think Pikmin 4 is going to be awesome for you knowing this :D
At least they gave fans who missed out on Pikmin 3 on Wii U a second chance by releasing Pikmin 3: Deluxe Edition on Nintendo Switch. 😃
Pikmin 4 does have some exciting stuff to look forward to, including things returning from Pikmin 2!
Oh my God, 2 + 2 is 4, I think your on to something here
Great video! So happy for you and your channel rn really blowing up! You genuinely deserve it brother!!
Thank you!! 😄
2017 - Super Mario Odyssey: I’m the best-looking Switch game!
2019 - Luigi’s Mansion 3: Are you sure about that?
2023 - Metroid Prime Remastered: A new challenger has approached
2023 - Pikmin 4: Hold my Pikmin
Keep these videos going! Can you analyze the bosses of each Pikmin game and their real-world animal counterpart? Also in-game unique behaviors of bosses.
Fantastic video, wizawhat!
Fantastic thoughts! This was a really refreshing and intelligent take, thoroughly enjoyed
I'm starting to notice a pattern, odd number are about survival, and even numbers are about exploration
Pleased to see someone else who thought that this game looks like a sequel to pikmin 2, whereas 3 was more of a sequel to pikmin 1 (especially 3 deluxe)
it's pikmin 2 two and I COULDNT BE HAPPIER
Yeah I definitely agree we're getting more than just the one (or two if the playground is a different area) map we might get the inside of the house as an area after finding certain treasures or maybe find a way into the attic or basement
Surely you’ll be able to pick which captain you want to play as, if you only control one captain.
I HOPE AND PRAY that this is true. Pikmin 2 is my favorite Pikmin game, so it would amazing if this was pretty much a perfected pikmin 2 or something
i personally hope the crashed ship is from hocotate on a treasure hunt gone wrong and the rescuers are from koppai
Some people who will play Pikmin 4 would be born after Pikmin 3
Fun fact: Oatchi is based on an official concept art of an adult bulbear bulbmin that was supposed to serve the same purpose that Oatchi serves, there is a video about it and some other concept pikmin.
Edit: Here is the link to the video ruclips.net/video/pOdtbUBT0Sw/видео.html
Super cool! Thanks for sharing
I found it quite amazing how much you got wrong versus how much you got right. You understood the all encompassing ideas more than the minute details, which is going to make your analysis of the actual game all the more interesting,
i hope this has a coop mode to, loved playing pikmin 3 with my brother. laughing as the asshole fed the guys less so she could get more, laughing at each other for failing. good times
Ah man, I wish I had someone that would be just as excited to play Pikmin co-op with!
Wow I wish Pikmin 4 had a real plot like this
Me when I came to the same conclusion as the video title watching the trailer:
"Thats it! thats what we've been waiting for! (20~ years)"
Correction: The new main Captain is 100% not Alph and Brittany's child since if we analyze her ear shape her ears are completely identical in shape to Olimar's ears in Hey Pikmin so she is definitely a Hocotation, the only captain who doesn't seem to be Hocotation is Collin as his ears are sqaure in shape which doesn't match Hocotation's Pointier ears and Kopaites Rounder Ears
also I am 100% sure the other captains will be playable since they seem to be a part of this mission as well and why would they create full on character models and so them with the main captain and stuff if they weren't playable
I seriously can't wait for this one!!
Me neither :)
Pikmin 2, in my opinion, is my absolute FAVORITE entry in the series (so far); while I love all Pikmin games very much, I actually liked the brutal dungeons of Pikmin 2... I personally hope Pikmin 4 doubles down on it, but even if they don't, I'd still get Pikmin 4... I'm glad they're doing the Pikmin 2 approach to then series again!
Finally, Pikmin 2 II
Somewhere Schafrillas choked on his coffee and is now in a state of panic for the series
dude if theyre bringing caves back, imagine a remade water wraith
Nice video, I liked it
She can't be Alpha and Brittany's child because her ears are like that of Olimar's, hocotate ears, not koppai ears. All of the new characters have pointed ears, koppai ears around rounded
Something i wonder is "will blue pikmins be useless"? now since ice pikmin can freeze water, and oatchi can carry you over the water?
What they just make really deep water to fix blue pikmin, imagine going into a fountain with just blue pikmin.
Child of Alph and Brittany? I’ve always thought she would marry Charlie instead since he’s presumably older.
my wii u broke in the middle of my Pikmin 3 gameplay and i dont have the heart to even look up how the story ends 😔
Honestly, I prefer Pikmin 2 over 1 and 3, meaning that this game may just become one of my favorites if it does things right.
Pikmin Tutu: the real-time strategy ballerina game.
I hope someday we will get a real chibi robo two
I slightly predicted this I had a theory since the third game is more like the first than the second The fourth will fit the other even number and be like the second
The ship that we see crashed in the Pikmin 4 trailer is most likely the object that crashed at the end of Pikmin 3
Yeah it looks like a star and that fits with the piles of what looks like star bits lying around at night in the trailer
I am pretty sure that's just side stories from pikmin 3 deluxe.
@@shellpoptheepicswordmaster755 yeah but when they made it back in 2013 I'm sure they didn't think that side stories would be a thing, so I don't think they would go to the future to grab that Intel just to put it in.
This title aged well
The actual video, not quite as much
Can't win em all
I'm pretty happy about the fact that, minus the story, pretty much all of my predictions came true :)
New Wiz! New What!
I keep having to remind myself that Pikmin 4 is real and here, after years of it being "close to finished". Crazy, crazy
so hyped for pikmin 4!
I sure hope you're right - Pikmin 2 is my favourite Pikmin game by far. The caves and intense bosses were so fun, and playing through them was some of the most fun I had in my childhood. Beyond excited for this game!
That is why i call it pikmin 2×2
I liked 1, loved 2, and absolutely hated 3. I don't know what to make of 4.
What did you hate about 3? I really enjoyed it
@@wizawhat I don't want to say "everything" but there is very little about the game that met my expectations. Creatively, it felt like just more of the same, with major steps backwards in many key areas. Visually, I wasn't impressed and had hoped they'd have used the system's extra power to allow more pikmin on screen, but that didn't happen.
The thing that probably turned me off the most was that... (now I played the previous games very defensively and took great care to minimize any loses)... The changes to 3's controls and the pikmin AI caused these stupid little buggers to find all sorts of creatively ways to get themselves killed. The extra level of micromanaging caused by this made the game unfun to play.
@@bethanyh1637 Good take, however, there's some issues with your suggestions of pikmin 3.
I hope you don't take this seriously, because this is just something i want to talk about.
First of all you are probably a purist, which is fine, but i do think it's not gonna make the game do anything to evolve the series all that very much.
I think it's confusing you are saying about allowing more pikmin on screen, because isn't it? and the wii u has limitations, so expect it to be understandable.
I think the AI thing is taken a bit too seriously, because actually the managing in Pikmin 3, they are near perfect, and monsters/Bulburbs aren't that powerful anymore, and you did say the controls makes the game flawed, but that is different to the ways you play it, and Pikmin dies in all dumb ways, amiright?
I disagree with your extra managing take, because Pikmin 2 has likely even more treasure that is annoying to get, however, you are probably a Pikmin 2 lover, i get it.
it's okay to dislike a game, but talking it in the wrong ways can make it misleading.
I will spend HOURS on this one thing if they add it back; The Piklopedia
(I also want bulbmin back)
Ok crazy theory but hear me out: This is Alphs mother and the game is a prequel to all the Pikmin games. This one taking place before earth was completely wiped out of any human life, so some man made structures still stand.
Meh everything was still fine in 2
To be fair, pikmin 3 was kinda pikmin 1 two
4:10. Does that mean Alph and Brit had. . .
Interesting. I love the first game and completed it multiple times. The second game was a bit more of a grind or slog but I did complete it though not with everything. The third game I never completed. Perhaps by that point in my life I just didn't feel like doing the grind. So I'm curious to see what will happen with four.
That's interesting. I would particularly associate Pikmin with grinding, maybe 2, but definitely not three. They're all fairly short games so maybe you just weren't vibing with the design in those two games
Sadly the new captains are not children of the pickmin 3 heroes since they are hocatation captains according to the words on the ship
Pikmin 2 was almost a masterpiece, say whatever you want
Who else noticed blue pikmin aren’t in screen when ice are I doubt it but what if blue pikmin are ice pikmin or it’s like the buds kinda and you need blue pikmin to ice ones
how to fall into a coma until july 21st
How did I just now realize that depending on the number in the series, that’s how many main protagonists are in the game 😂
i hope this game is like pikmin 2 because i love pikmin 2 the best
Pikmin 2 is one of my favourite games ever. I see it as one of Nintendo’s highest quality and polished releases, alongside Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door, on the same system.
I liked Pikmin 3, it was okay. It felt more like a sequel to the first Pikmin though, which if I’m honest I’m not really into.
I really hope 4 is the sequel to 2 that it appears to be, and one I’ve been waiting many, many years for.
Super fun fact!!1! Did you know that two times two is four!!!!!
Aint no way
I really want oatchy to have a breadbug skin
So it's Pikmin 2 squared? Lol!
I should really play pikmin
I very much agree to you about this, you are very embracing on the different looks of pikmin 4. While i like the purist fact you told me, it does show a fact that the pikmin community hasn't changed. I hope a new era of pikmin could be happening, but what do you think?
I think the Pikmin community is bigger than ever before, thanks to the release of Pikmin 3 Deluxe. It's the best selling Pikmin game already which makes me believe that the interest in Pikmin 4 will be higher than any other Pikmin release
Pikmin 2 + pikmin 2 = Pikmin 4
I would love to go into the house
good morning
Good morning!
4:07 wait.. you mean Alph and Brittney have been a thing this whole time….
No these people just see the pink hair and the dumb face and think that means it’s their kid
@@thedumbdog1964 hey now theres no need for that, they do have similar features and they arent dumb for assuming that.
I doubt the new crew is from koppai
How come?
@@wizawhat because they all have hocotate ears, not koppai ears
Pikmin 2+pikmin 2 is pikmin 4
Pikmin 2²
The real question is when are we gonna get Zelda 2 two?
I’m certainly worried that the blue Pikmin won’t have a use now, considering the ice Pikmin and Oatchi can interact with water. I hope the blue Pikmin have a better use, unlike the yellow Pikmin.
I wouldn't worry too much as there were plenty of deep water areas for blue pikmin to interact with in Pikmin 3. Blue is one of the core types so I doubt they would really mess with them.
Because Pikmin bloom this is Pikmin 5
Nvm it’s Pikmin 6 because hey pikmin 3ds
I'm kinda worried about the balance of Pikmin types
Blue Pikmin seem to be unlocked _after_ Ice Pikmin
Why traverse water with blue Pikmin if Ice Pikmin can freeze it and allow your group to cross regardless of type?
Maybe Ice Pikmin can only freeze shallow water? But then again
why use Ice Pikmin if Oatchy allows you to traverse these bodies of water regardless of depth?
Counter point: deep water, only blue pikmin can breathe under water, with the new camera change we can have really deep water.
Well, 2+2=4
Pikmin 2•2
I've played an insane amount of Pikmin 3, I'm looking forward to 4 so much! I hope that I'll be able to get a decent amount out of it even though I haven't really played the earlier ones.
Edit: I hope 4 will have coop where one player plays the best boy.
The great thing about the Pikmin games is that each feels so distinct and playable on their own. I'm sure Pikmin 4 will be fun for all kinds of fans!
I hate to be *that* guy, but c'mon Heff. It's modern Nintendo we're talking about. If you honestly think there is going to be an ounce of interesting character depth or lore to this modern Nintendo game, then I simply must point and laugh. It's just going to be another "Oh good gameplay with nonexistant storytelling or writing" that Nintendo is going to continue to act like they have always made, when instead they have proven through nearly every IP they are capable of telling interesting and GOOD stories.
Ngl unpopular opinion, but can I just have winged pikmin in story mode?
It's possible, but I think the history makes it unlikely. I think the reason the Pikmin designers decided not to bring back Purple and White Pikmin for the main story is because, yeah there would be some redundancies, but more importantly having upwards of SEVEN Pikmin types on the field at once would be too difficult to manage, especially with the 100 field limit. If you wanted to have an even party you would barely have enough Pikmin of any single type to fulfill their niche. That's why I think five types is the sweet spot, it allows you to carry 20 of each type.
I got an even better title for you
Pikmin 2 Times Two
Or maybe Pikmin 2xTwo?
>Not a Pikmin 2 enjoyer
Smh L
I enjoy Pikmin 2, it's just my least favorite of three of my favorite games :)
@@wizawhat i was mostly joking! But i hope Pikmin 4 is good. The Pikmin series has always been Miyamoto's pet project, and I'm looking forward to it.
Your reasons for why Pikmin 4 is Pikmin 2 two, is the same as Pikmin 3 being Pikmin 1 two, which is idiotic.
Perhaps I should explain it simpler so you can understand?
And peapol are gonna be made cuz peail Say that pikmin 2 Is wrost game of the serie
This is pikmin too good pikmin to be pikmin troo