I started this expansion as a first time healer and you made a guide like this and now I’m mythic healing and almost glad in PVP while healing on my sham and I’m AOTC on my pally and 1800 rating in pvp. Crazy looking back and having no idea he to do anything and now I’m pretty good. Took a year but still lol but I said that to say thanks for the guides they really do help
It’s important to have a theme with your healing keybinds and keep them all the same. That was a good point. Mine is single heals on left, aoe on right. Shields or odd single heal middle. Dispel side 1, tank CD side 2.
great in depth video, mate! been using clique for my healers since shadowlands, but never really dove into how it actually works and what it can provide... I switched to tanking in season 2 but still use it for things like dispelling me or others or abilities like Word of glory or other paladin utility like bop or something...made my life a whole lot easier and now I can try out some new stuf because of your guide. Thanks!
I am sure the add-ons are great, I have never used them myself but I have heard great things. One thing a macro does above all others is versatility. I use a 12 button mouse and use alt to give me 24 keybinds. That still isn't enough room sometimes, so I infuse my heals with my attacks. It allows me to have at times 30ish abilities at my disposal, or more. I'll do three very different ones below if anyone is wondering: /cast [@mouseover, heal, nodead] holy shock /cast holy shock (This allows me to heal and attack with holy shock on the same button) /cast [@mouseover, heal, nodead] chain heal /cast chain lightning (This allows two different spell uses on one button) /cast [@mouseover, heal, nodead] renew /cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead] shadow word: pain /cast shadow word: pain (This allows for mouse over renews, mouse over dots, and targeted dots). Bottom line, very versatile, lots of awesome stuff along with macros that change when changing talents. Things you just don't get with the add-ons.
actually clique can do the same thing...just like he showed in the video also, you can still use macros and bind them to specific buttons and uses with clique. not that I am advertising heavy for the use of add-ons, if you don't like them, it's fine...but these add-ons are a way to maximaze the versatility of the given functions in the game...the make thing "easier" for the most people if you will.
Been using Clique since WoD and I can´t even imagine healing without it. I have a 5 button mouse and what I love most about clique is that I can essentially use my most comfortable keybinds for both healing and dps/utility. For instance my most used are QERF and 1234. Q is Lightning Bolt and in Clique it´s Healing Wave. E is Lava Burst/Healing Surge. R is Chain Lightning/Riptide. 2 is Flameshock/Earth Shield etc etc. As a healer that has always done as much dps as I can get away with it makes it really fluid to switch between offensive casts and heals in the middle of combat.
I played for 10 years (heroic raiding, a few mythic raid kills too), stopped during legion and am resuming now. Pally healer, like you. I've always been torn between 2 styles of UI: clickable raid, or mouseover. I think (memory fading...) that in the end I was using clickable; mostly because you have [left, right, center click] x [no mod, shift, ctrl, alt, shift+ctrl, shift+alt, ...] so quite a few combos; the urgent staff was mapped to simple clicks (left click no mods = Holy Shock, center no mod WoG, ...) and the complex clicks were for rare actions (for memory ease, all double mod clicks were mapped the same, so alt shift left would be beacon of light, alt shift center beacon of faith,...). It took me to decent healing levels, best pally in guild. However I recall that at some time I used mouseover + keybind. I'm mouse-left-handed so my keypad, a total of 15 buttons, could be used for the most frequent actions. That has to include rare but critical spells like bubble, LoH, divine steed, stun, auras, avenging wrath, etc. (I switched mappings out of party for solo content, I'm not even sure what I would use in raid any more, but crusader strike had become a staple of holy pallies before I left). The issue with that was that 15 buttons were not enough for the entire range of pally abilities. I believe that the latter method is faster because instead of having to target and click I only targeted, the cast was from the other hand on the keypad. As you pointed out the issue is if you use mouse and the other hand for spell casting purely, you're going to be slower at raid movement, that can be a big drawback, fight dependent, but moving is achieved with either arrowpad or mouse, and you then can't move and cast simultaneously, this can delay a much-needed HS/WoG at the wrong time (everything else can't be cast moving anyways). Now as I resume I'm rebuilding the interface almost from scratch (I just found out that blizzard had saved my macros, hurrah!) I'd like to start with the best end-game option, it will take long enough for me to learn. What do you think of it? Are there any actual studies on casting time on raid frames? Does anyone use dual style (e.g. a few super frequent spells available both by mouseover cast and click-on-frame cast)? With mouse over vs. clicking--intuitively clicking is slower but then there's left-hand/right-hand timing coordination, it's not a slam dunk both halves of the brain take time to communicate, I would think that with practice the LF/RH delay can become asymptotically zero). Also, I just found out that there is a "help" modifier for macros so you can tailor your cast to not be waisted on a max health target, IdK if it existed before, that will be able to save CDs and lower overhealing, is that option also available with Clique? I just installed CLique/Weak Auras/ElvUI/details/... and getting exactly the right UI looks daunting 🙂
I'm so late to see this video but it's so good! You use such a similar method as me in how you assign your abilities. I have always had self buffs like fleshcraft or lightning shield to mouse wheel down (insert shift or ctrl mods). I also use speed buffs like cat form sprint or leap to mouse wheel up. I really like how you've grouped your heals it makes complete sense. Great video! Subscribed.
you really inspired me to use grid when i came back to wow, at the end of bfa in prep for mythic raiding. i use it with macros atm and without clique, but you showcasing the different possibilities that might be more difficult to achieve on macros, made me think again and maybe ill redo my stuff again :D but the idea of creating the key binds in a way so they feel similar on each healer is smt i been doing as well, i play shaman, druid and holy priest so far, and i kinda made it so it does similar things on the key for all of them and it makes it easier, especially if i havnt touched a charcter in a while :)
Ive had pretty good luck with the simple addon Healium. Pretty easy to set up and use. I can heal my party while keeping a priority target for stuns/dps/etc :) i know its not everyones fav to use, but it works pretty well for me. Thought it was worth mentioning! Love your vids!
Your method of organizing your keybinds throughout the various healing classes is really interesting, and I'm quite fond of how your mind has gone about it all. May I inspect your keybinds for Paladin (your Clique export)? I've been playing Paladin since 2004, and healing since TBC. I took a break for the last 4 years, and since I'm coming back, I figured I might as well learn a more efficient way, while considering what I know from years past.
I use Alt+Mousewheel up for cat form, Alt+MWDown for bear, Shift+MWD for Moonkin, Shift+MWU for travel form. The ups I picture as needin to go fast, the downs as for gettin ready to put in work. :p
Hey , thank you, great guide ! My I ask in which Elvui menu do you guys have another litte name "bar" with your name on it" - I need it to check the blackliist settings with ELvui please?
Sadly I just came back to WoW, i'm using clique but now when I cast things with mouse over, sometimes it makes me autorun to the side after using a spell on someone... guess ill go back to mouseover macros
I have two problems with clique, 1-I use my 1 button default keybind for moonfire and as mouseover rejuvenation with clique so if my mouse is over my health bars it should cast rejuvenation and if not it should cast moonfire on my target but sometimes it doesn't work properly, although my mouse is on health bar it cast moonfire on my target. and 2- it causes a lot of "Interface action failed because of an addon" errors. plz help me fix them
is there a problem with clique, when i bind mouseover it disables action bar keybind. If you want to hover cast, but not use it when not hovering do you need a macro?
thank you man for you detailed videos and especially this one. i have a question if i may ask? i started playing wow in bfa and stoped playing after the sylvanas raid in shadowlands. i only played frostmage. in dragonflight i want to start playing healer but the interface for the healer looks very confusing. is there a method you would recommend for new healers like me how to start of step by step? maybe install addons one at a time to get used to them? because i dont feel confident enough using all the addons right away ;)
Hi. I have a question related to a mouseover macro and I hope you know the answer. This could be useful to healers. I have a Holy Pala and I'm using mouseover macro for Rebuke and Hammer of Justice, so I can quickly interrupt without targeting while we are fighting several npc's. The improvement I'm would like to make is to make sure my mouse is over the correct npc. So it would be nice if plater can highlight the nameplate when my mouse is over it but not targeting. I tried to make it within the options of plater but I couldn't succeed even there is a "hover over highlight" option under target options menu. Do you have a solution for that? If you do, I would appreciate if you can teach us :)
Thanks a lot, great content! Could you leave a comment about a similar addon called "Clicked" please. Its basically a macro-manager too, but I prefer the look and feel of that.
Hey m8, thanks for this great guide! I just started to use Clicke and I love it. 1 question tho.. I am using elvui and when I press a party frame or raid frame , the target show up on the right. How I can disable this and use some macro or keyring like you for trades etc.
i have prob. sometimes in mud rush in raid try to heal my self with !Light of the Martyr! using clique bind to "Q" is it poss to set up clique to cancel cast on self? or mb macro? hope you can advise )
Mate fantastic video. I wonder could you cover a different topic as a healer in M+. I'm up to healing 18/19s and want to take my game to the next level. I just did a MotS there as Resto Shaman. Scenario is like this, tank does massive pull, and its going well, then DBM screams a warning at me like "Defensive buff X on Mistveil Tender - Dispel now!". But in the mass of unit frames its really hard to pick out the unit to be dispelled. How do you isolate the unit needing dispel (other than knowing in advance of each pull which unit is likely to need one). Would appreciate your help.
you can set up your name plates in a way where it should show a blinking symbol on it or like a glow frame or maybe highlight it somehow, but that depends very much on what you use for nameplates in like standard or plater or whatever you can think of. plater has like a ton of options but it takes a lot of time to set it up, but you can also get premade setups from wago i think. Or you try to set a focus target before hand to get rid of the buff, but like in MoTS most of the purgeable buffs are aoe on all of the targets anyway. Like the heal from the tender, or the shield from the bugs later. There is other dungeons tho, like DoS where the nice caster that kicks people of the plattform, does buff one of the other enemies, and thats a case where you need to purge a specific target. hope this was any helpfull. >.>
Hiya! Great video! I am using Elvui as well and giving Clique a try but cannot figure out how you have your party frame at the bottom even though you are not in a party?
I still prefer mousover macros. It is faster for me to press button on mechanical keyboard than on mouse. Also often I use specific macros like merging purge and dispel on shaman based on what I target/mousover. Merging water shield and earth shield based on my target. I also don't like MMO mouse, I use a regular 5 button mouse.
how do you use the right click? When I try to use a spell with right click it opens the menu where I can trade, inspect and so on. How do I fix this problem?
I started this expansion as a first time healer and you made a guide like this and now I’m mythic healing and almost glad in PVP while healing on my sham and I’m AOTC on my pally and 1800 rating in pvp. Crazy looking back and having no idea he to do anything and now I’m pretty good. Took a year but still lol but I said that to say thanks for the guides they really do help
It’s important to have a theme with your healing keybinds and keep them all the same. That was a good point. Mine is single heals on left, aoe on right. Shields or odd single heal middle. Dispel side 1, tank CD side 2.
I don't think people appreciate your effort in explaining how this powerful addon works. Thank you
I'm using your UI for years by now, but i learn something new in this video anyway. You are legend Madz!
great in depth video, mate! been using clique for my healers since shadowlands, but never really dove into how it actually works and what it can provide...
I switched to tanking in season 2 but still use it for things like dispelling me or others or abilities like Word of glory or other paladin utility like bop or something...made my life a whole lot easier and now I can try out some new stuf because of your guide. Thanks!
I am sure the add-ons are great, I have never used them myself but I have heard great things. One thing a macro does above all others is versatility. I use a 12 button mouse and use alt to give me 24 keybinds. That still isn't enough room sometimes, so I infuse my heals with my attacks. It allows me to have at times 30ish abilities at my disposal, or more. I'll do three very different ones below if anyone is wondering:
/cast [@mouseover, heal, nodead] holy shock
/cast holy shock
(This allows me to heal and attack with holy shock on the same button)
/cast [@mouseover, heal, nodead] chain heal
/cast chain lightning
(This allows two different spell uses on one button)
/cast [@mouseover, heal, nodead] renew
/cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead] shadow word: pain
/cast shadow word: pain
(This allows for mouse over renews, mouse over dots, and targeted dots).
Bottom line, very versatile, lots of awesome stuff along with macros that change when changing talents. Things you just don't get with the add-ons.
actually clique can do the same thing...just like he showed in the video also, you can still use macros and bind them to specific buttons and uses with clique.
not that I am advertising heavy for the use of add-ons, if you don't like them, it's fine...but these add-ons are a way to maximaze the versatility of the given functions in the game...the make thing "easier" for the most people if you will.
I use Clique, and I have missed some of these optimizations. Thanks.
Been using Clique since WoD and I can´t even imagine healing without it. I have a 5 button mouse and what I love most about clique is that I can essentially use my most comfortable keybinds for both healing and dps/utility. For instance my most used are QERF and 1234. Q is Lightning Bolt and in Clique it´s Healing Wave. E is Lava Burst/Healing Surge. R is Chain Lightning/Riptide. 2 is Flameshock/Earth Shield etc etc. As a healer that has always done as much dps as I can get away with it makes it really fluid to switch between offensive casts and heals in the middle of combat.
nice! this guide so so so good! love your videos! )
I played for 10 years (heroic raiding, a few mythic raid kills too), stopped during legion and am resuming now. Pally healer, like you. I've always been torn between 2 styles of UI: clickable raid, or mouseover. I think (memory fading...) that in the end I was using clickable; mostly because you have [left, right, center click] x [no mod, shift, ctrl, alt, shift+ctrl, shift+alt, ...] so quite a few combos; the urgent staff was mapped to simple clicks (left click no mods = Holy Shock, center no mod WoG, ...) and the complex clicks were for rare actions (for memory ease, all double mod clicks were mapped the same, so alt shift left would be beacon of light, alt shift center beacon of faith,...). It took me to decent healing levels, best pally in guild.
However I recall that at some time I used mouseover + keybind. I'm mouse-left-handed so my keypad, a total of 15 buttons, could be used for the most frequent actions. That has to include rare but critical spells like bubble, LoH, divine steed, stun, auras, avenging wrath, etc. (I switched mappings out of party for solo content, I'm not even sure what I would use in raid any more, but crusader strike had become a staple of holy pallies before I left). The issue with that was that 15 buttons were not enough for the entire range of pally abilities. I believe that the latter method is faster because instead of having to target and click I only targeted, the cast was from the other hand on the keypad. As you pointed out the issue is if you use mouse and the other hand for spell casting purely, you're going to be slower at raid movement, that can be a big drawback, fight dependent, but moving is achieved with either arrowpad or mouse, and you then can't move and cast simultaneously, this can delay a much-needed HS/WoG at the wrong time (everything else can't be cast moving anyways).
Now as I resume I'm rebuilding the interface almost from scratch (I just found out that blizzard had saved my macros, hurrah!) I'd like to start with the best end-game option, it will take long enough for me to learn. What do you think of it? Are there any actual studies on casting time on raid frames? Does anyone use dual style (e.g. a few super frequent spells available both by mouseover cast and click-on-frame cast)? With mouse over vs. clicking--intuitively clicking is slower but then there's left-hand/right-hand timing coordination, it's not a slam dunk both halves of the brain take time to communicate, I would think that with practice the LF/RH delay can become asymptotically zero). Also, I just found out that there is a "help" modifier for macros so you can tailor your cast to not be waisted on a max health target, IdK if it existed before, that will be able to save CDs and lower overhealing, is that option also available with Clique? I just installed CLique/Weak Auras/ElvUI/details/... and getting exactly the right UI looks daunting 🙂
I'm so late to see this video but it's so good! You use such a similar method as me in how you assign your abilities. I have always had self buffs like fleshcraft or lightning shield to mouse wheel down (insert shift or ctrl mods). I also use speed buffs like cat form sprint or leap to mouse wheel up. I really like how you've grouped your heals it makes complete sense. Great video! Subscribed.
you really inspired me to use grid when i came back to wow, at the end of bfa in prep for mythic raiding.
i use it with macros atm and without clique, but you showcasing the different possibilities that might be more difficult to achieve on macros, made me think again and maybe ill redo my stuff again :D
but the idea of creating the key binds in a way so they feel similar on each healer is smt i been doing as well, i play shaman, druid and holy priest so far, and i kinda made it so it does similar things on the key for all of them and it makes it easier, especially if i havnt touched a charcter in a while :)
Ive had pretty good luck with the simple addon Healium. Pretty easy to set up and use. I can heal my party while keeping a priority target for stuns/dps/etc :) i know its not everyones fav to use, but it works pretty well for me. Thought it was worth mentioning! Love your vids!
very usefull video tyvm!
Awesome guide!
I was aware of Clique but found it to be a little overwhelming. Guess I'm just used to manually creating macros
Your method of organizing your keybinds throughout the various healing classes is really interesting, and I'm quite fond of how your mind has gone about it all. May I inspect your keybinds for Paladin (your Clique export)?
I've been playing Paladin since 2004, and healing since TBC. I took a break for the last 4 years, and since I'm coming back, I figured I might as well learn a more efficient way, while considering what I know from years past.
I use Alt+Mousewheel up for cat form, Alt+MWDown for bear, Shift+MWD for Moonkin, Shift+MWU for travel form. The ups I picture as needin to go fast, the downs as for gettin ready to put in work. :p
Hey , thank you, great guide !
My I ask in which Elvui menu do you guys have another litte name "bar" with your name on it" - I need it to check the blackliist settings with ELvui please?
Sadly I just came back to WoW, i'm using clique but now when I cast things with mouse over, sometimes it makes me autorun to the side after using a spell on someone... guess ill go back to mouseover macros
how do i get it to get rid of "self casting"
I have two problems with clique, 1-I use my 1 button default keybind for moonfire and as mouseover rejuvenation with clique so if my mouse is over my health bars it should cast rejuvenation and if not it should cast moonfire on my target but sometimes it doesn't work properly, although my mouse is on health bar it cast moonfire on my target. and 2- it causes a lot of "Interface action failed because of an addon" errors.
plz help me fix them
is there a problem with clique, when i bind mouseover it disables action bar keybind. If you want to hover cast, but not use it when not hovering do you need a macro?
Thank you for the great info. Your accent is really interesting may I ask are you part Irish part Scandinavian (swedish, norwegian)?
How to make a macro? Like i want to know how i use the mouse button to cast the spell. I do not know how to create it.
thank you man for you detailed videos and especially this one. i have a question if i may ask?
i started playing wow in bfa and stoped playing after the sylvanas raid in shadowlands. i only played frostmage. in dragonflight i want to start playing healer but the interface for the healer looks very confusing.
is there a method you would recommend for new healers like me how to start of step by step? maybe install addons one at a time to get used to them? because i dont feel confident enough using all the addons right away ;)
Hi. I have a question related to a mouseover macro and I hope you know the answer. This could be useful to healers. I have a Holy Pala and I'm using mouseover macro for Rebuke and Hammer of Justice, so I can quickly interrupt without targeting while we are fighting several npc's. The improvement I'm would like to make is to make sure my mouse is over the correct npc. So it would be nice if plater can highlight the nameplate when my mouse is over it but not targeting. I tried to make it within the options of plater but I couldn't succeed even there is a "hover over highlight" option under target options menu. Do you have a solution for that? If you do, I would appreciate if you can teach us :)
Thanks a lot, great content! Could you leave a comment about a similar addon called "Clicked" please. Its basically a macro-manager too, but I prefer the look and feel of that.
Hey m8, thanks for this great guide! I just started to use Clicke and I love it. 1 question tho.. I am using elvui and when I press a party frame or raid frame , the target show up on the right. How I can disable this and use some macro or keyring like you for trades etc.
I would also say that although clique and select macros offer a new way to heal, just using the default way of select + cast is fine too.
So if i use vuhdo is there a way to get rid of the default party and raid frames? Dont like the look of both being there when i group up.
i have prob. sometimes in mud rush in raid try to heal my self with !Light of the Martyr! using clique bind to "Q" is it poss to set up clique to cancel cast on self? or mb macro? hope you can advise )
what is Access to patron-only content? i hope its ok to ask here?
Mainly my full UI and/or coaching sessions.
Mate fantastic video. I wonder could you cover a different topic as a healer in M+. I'm up to healing 18/19s and want to take my game to the next level. I just did a MotS there as Resto Shaman. Scenario is like this, tank does massive pull, and its going well, then DBM screams a warning at me like "Defensive buff X on Mistveil Tender - Dispel now!". But in the mass of unit frames its really hard to pick out the unit to be dispelled. How do you isolate the unit needing dispel (other than knowing in advance of each pull which unit is likely to need one). Would appreciate your help.
you can set up your name plates in a way where it should show a blinking symbol on it or like a glow frame or maybe highlight it somehow, but that depends very much on what you use for nameplates in like standard or plater or whatever you can think of. plater has like a ton of options but it takes a lot of time to set it up, but you can also get premade setups from wago i think.
Or you try to set a focus target before hand to get rid of the buff, but like in MoTS most of the purgeable buffs are aoe on all of the targets anyway. Like the heal from the tender, or the shield from the bugs later. There is other dungeons tho, like DoS where the nice caster that kicks people of the plattform, does buff one of the other enemies, and thats a case where you need to purge a specific target.
hope this was any helpfull. >.>
Hiya! Great video! I am using Elvui as well and giving Clique a try but cannot figure out how you have your party frame at the bottom even though you are not in a party?
Nvm I figured it out. 👍
I still prefer mousover macros. It is faster for me to press button on mechanical keyboard than on mouse. Also often I use specific macros like merging purge and dispel on shaman based on what I target/mousover. Merging water shield and earth shield based on my target. I also don't like MMO mouse, I use a regular 5 button mouse.
how do you use the right click? When I try to use a spell with right click it opens the menu where I can trade, inspect and so on. How do I fix this problem?
Did you end up working out a fix to this problem?
@@W0lfC4ll Yes you just need to fix the original binds clique have for left and right click to alt+left click and alt+right click
perfect .
You live in Dublin don't you :P
Addons can go out of date, mouse over macros are forever ❤
You’re gonna need to make a new video in 9.2 when spells are going to have mouse over capabilities haha
We will see if Blizzards implementation is going to be better than Clique :)
Us oldschool Mouseover Healers are a dying breed. Every time I am part of a healer discussion, all I hear is Clique or Healbot.