What are these Lionel Accessories Worth Today?
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2024
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On your cattle corral, you'll find 2 sets of slots on the platform base. The upper set of slots is for use with O-27 track and the lower slots are for use with the taller O-gauge track. When everything is in it's correct slots, the operating corral platforms will sit level with the car and the cows can enter the car without tripping on the thresh-hold. Also, this accessory came with 2 sets of track contact blades, short ones for O-27 track and taller ones for O-gauge track. LOVED the video!
Never knew! Good info.
Thanks for this good information Roger! I was wondering how they solved the difference in track heights
@@classicmodeltrains Sometimes the little silver platform ramps can get out of adjustment, so they sit too low or too high. There's little tabs that slip under the surface of the platform and make contact with it so the ramps vibrate- it also is a fine adjust for the ramp height. Once you have the platform set up for your track height, very carefully tweak those tabs until your ramps line up with the car height. You want both tabs making good contact with the platform, so if you tweak one, you gotta tweak the other one to match it. It's ok if they're slightly off, as long as the side where the cows enter the car is above or at the height of the little track inside the car, and the one where they get off the car is at or below that height. Otherwise the cows won't want to get in and out. If the ramps are too different in height, the cows are more likely to fall over, but truth be told, they like to get stuck and fall over even if you have the darn thing adjusted right! Part of the problem is they're a little top heavy.
Loved this one. Not a Lionel fan, but love accessories. Also loved that you just talked through everything and no music. I would always rather hear the model or accessory in operation. Please don't feel the need to jazz up your content or apologize for "too much detail." I think most modelers want your insights and the model of course, especially those Classic Models.
Thank you for you compliments and your input Michael. Some of my vids do have music in them while the train is running and Fellers have mentioned they want to hear what the loco sounds like. I'm picking up what your laying down :-)
One thing that I learned today is that you need an O Guage layout.😅
Needs a bigger barn 😂
I agree!! Getting ready for it
Be careful, Ron, or you'll get sucked into O. There's a reason hobbyists get sucked into this scale. It's by no accident that this offering gets one hooked because it's considered the toy train scale offering with an extensive long history with so many offerings to choose from. That was purposely designed to be fun to hook the hobbyist. There is literally an offering to suit any era for any version of layout one could build. Prewar, postwar, MPC, to current modern-day eras. In every price range possible. Typically, it is designed for fast and easy set up and to run anywhere and easily maintained and built rugged to last a lifetime and all run on a consistently designed 3 rail track type. Good luck. Once you go O track, there's no going back. Great score on those historical postwar accessories. Something you can't say or collect in any other scale within this hobby. Regardless of what you paid for such nice pieces, it's priceless. It's interesting how the first thing we as O-gaugers do is to clean off years of grease and grime to make them shiny and new, while others intentionally put it on brand new purchases and call it weathering😊.
Happy rails.
As an n gauger, I agree...we don't have a lot of fun stuff even today, and we're always worried about breaking something by sneezing or coughing...😷😁
Hello Dale, "Get sucked".........Too late! I cut my teeth on O-27 when I was a wee one. I really like the bigger "O" stuff. Gunna be a layout coming out of my fingers here hopefully soon! Yes I like them shiny and new looking as well. I've never wanted to weatherize stuff :-)
@neilm.greenberg4173 Don't pay any attention to my teasing Ron. I'm an old O-gauger. I've seen some really incredible N-gauge layouts with a bullet train and fully functioning interstate.
@@DRCRailroard but it's true...I have gauge envy...😁...mainly because having lived in Brooklyn NY my entire life, it burns my tusch that there are no MTA train sets in n- gauge...😥
Prices on certain older trains have gone down because so many older collectors are in their 80's or even older and their collections are hitting the market making the supply outpace the demand for many items.
It never ceases to amaze me that toys...children's toys...built in the 1940's, 1950's, and 1960's were made so well that they still look great and operate really well. We won't be able to say that about most of the stuff being made today 60-70 years from now.
I agree with both your statements :-)
I've been into Lionel trains since I was 5 and when I got in, the prices were at an all-time high, but now that many of the older generation collectors are getting older and passing and their collections are being sold off, there is a huge flood in the market with the older pre and post ww2 eras of these which is both exciting because I can get pieces that I've always wanted for cheaper than before but its also sad that there are less people who appreciate the antique toy trains.
I was thinking the same as you. Market is being flooded from collectors who have passed away. Is a bit of sadness associated with the low prices.
so true,the boomers like me on fixed income backed off adding also younger people don't have much interest..still when I saw your haul I eyeballed the the table and thought "he got the fever" LOL ..great hobby ,have fun@@classicmodeltrains
I still have my original milk and cattle loaders that I ROUTINELY operated as a 10-12 year old. That was in 1952-1954 when I bought them new. I have my original No. 64 log loader, plus another one I bought 15-20 years ago. Both work fine. Funny to watch younger folks look at these as "very old" LIONEL. I sure do not. LOL.
@@mikespurg8006 I had one commenter refer to me as "old like his Dad". Really threw me off.
Those Marx Girard whistle stations are workhorses. Old but well built. Great video, lots of nice accessories.
I was actually surprised it didnt blow the very first time I juiced it up. Marx is so bulletproof. But a drop of oil and it was back to work!!
Ron I'm like you I love fixing old trains and making them like new again and like me I know you love doing it. Factor in the fun you have doing it and you'll always be ahead.
I could drink beers with you Eddie!!
Sounds good to me !!!!!!!!!!
Great video Ron the Marx stuff was in my opinion great condition nice finds.
I couldn't believe the condition of the Marx myself.
Another great video. Love seeing you bring stuff back to life. I have a 1948 2-6-2 '675' that I need to take apart and get running again and watching your videos has given me the confidence I need to take it apart. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks John! Glad I could help you out getting your Loco's running again!
That's some awesome items for sure. Very cool. ❤
Thanks
Great finds. Loved the price comparison. Keep them their videos coming. 33%
Thanks for all the support!!
I only got into Lionel a few years ago, and stuck with newer stuff. Seeing these makes me want to get into operating accessories
They can be a lot of fun. Give your trains something to do
@@classicmodeltrains Accessories ae something HO and N scales don't have. And they are always a crowd pleaser especially with the kids at a show. They can go a long way to get the younger people interested in the hobby.
Good scores Ron. Watching your other videos of shipping mishaps, sometimes buying local and hands on looks like a good way to go when you find them.
Watching the guardman swing out was a hoot, he could fly a distance under the work bench..lol. Thanks for sharing.
I agree. the local stuff won't get damaged on the way home. Sometimes even if a bit more expensive I go local route just because of all the damaged shipping items I receive. I couldn't believe how fast that Marx feller popped out of there!
25:07 Great video. Keep em coming, I'll keep watching. Nobody wants them anymore. All us oldtimers are dying off. The youths of today dont want them. 😢😢😢😢😢😊
Yes, its weird to see Lionel stuff going for such low prices now. No more market for the pre/post war stuff it seems
That first one that loads the trailers on the flat cars is amazing! I have not seen anything like that before but it is simply ingenuious.
Nice and simple accessory for sure!
You got yourself a nice deal. Ebay can be a crap shoot. Some deals aren't so good after you add the shipping cost, which I'm glad that you did in your examples. I only buy stuff that I am familiar with and buy mostly at shows so I can see exactly what I am getting. It is nice that you used the regular Turtle Wax. No abrasives to dull the finish. Keep up the great and informative videos.
Thank you John
collecting for over 40yrs, rare high end in pristine condition is still $$$.. red top 455,the orange roof bell ringer #76 shack and the red light tower woke me up LOL! also the green and gray vans cool,,,,be careful they multiply
Another Feller pointed out the same ones you just did. Guessing I found a few Cherries?
we all hope to pick goodies LOL ..your videos bring joy to us all..@@classicmodeltrains
Great video, I'm always looking for train in the second hand stores....
Sucks when you see stuff and have no extra cash to buy them. Go back and then there.............
Again, glad to see you repairing Lionel!
Trying to spread to all the stuff out there!
Great video on a lot of cool finds. As these baby boomers pass away these items will turn up more often at estate sales. Since I didn't want my stuff to end up with some hoarder and my sons don't want it, I donated everything to the Illinois Railway Museum, Union IL. They will display it, sell it but at least eventually the stuff will end up at good homes and not landfills.
Thanks John. Unfortunately yes that's how the market is being flooded.
Nice lot of accessories you got there, Ron. Back in the 90s before ebay, vintage Lionel sold for an arm and leg, manly because the baby Boomers wanted their childhood back and had the money to get them. When the internet came along, trains were much easier to come by, and the price value dropped. I wonder what prices will look like in 10 or 20 years? I'm sure you know all this. I just felt like putting my 2 cents in for those who are curious.
Thanks Steel City RR. You make a very good point and appreciate any knowledge other modelers share with me. I suppose 10-20 years the post war O stuff will be just pennies on the dollar.
I have my dads Lionel set from when he was a kid. Including a #624 C&O switcher, a 3482 operating milk car, with the platform, car, track, and milk cans. A cement car, gondola and a few others. I just powered up the switcher for the first time in 30+ years. The last it was run, a faulty power supply overheated the 3 position unit. I replaced that the other day and I'm working on get the rest clean up a bit to set it up.
Glad to hear your getting some family memories back on the rails again!!
Back in the 90s/early 00s, that was pretty well what all that stuff was selling for. What happened is a lot of these collectors have died off, people don't really want trains, etc. But the real killer for values was the advent of the internet. The internet opened up the world and things that were once hard to find or hard to come by, really wasn't all that hard to find anymore. Along with large collections getting sold off, the market is flooded at the moment. Which is great for guys like us who like to collect and enjoy them because they are now affordable for a change. Postwar Lionel is what I love collecting and I am glad myself that people are more focused on the new offerings and letting these postwar pieces sell cheaper than they were back in the day.
I agree Joshua. I want an original piece not a new reproduction :-)
Hello Ron, you have an excellent haul you bought. That #455 with the Red top is more sought after than the common Green top, so that’s a great piece. The #460 Piggy Back Transportation Set is a nice piece also. The green tops of the trailers are meant to come off, so don’t glue them. ALSO, there are little red projections underneath each trailer. Those are the indicators to show the correct position for the lift. The #132 Automatic Train Control Station is actually a very cool accessory. You can adjust the length time the locomotive stops by lifting off the top, and adjusting the control for a short time, a long time, or continuous running. I use this train station all of the time, and it looks cool when you have a passenger train stopping and then starting back up again. Great stuff there Ron!!
Hello Tom! Thanks for some insight on these items. Yup I know not to glue the tops on, but DANG!! They fall off if you look at it too hard. I thought the trailers just had marker lights painted on them, but what you said makes more sense. I Really like the #132. Found the directions online in what it does and how it does it. Great idea they had. Cant wait for a layout to start forming in real life. That piece will be employed in it for sure.
@@classicmodeltrainsI look forward to when you have a layout up and running! It will make great video content putting one together.
I’m not found of this kind of accessories, but I have to admit that you have a nice collection. Kudos for this!
Thank you kindly!
Love your channel, man.
I appreciate that!
Make some more American fliers. Videos
@@es1541 More are in the pipeline. Just trying to rotate thru them all 🙂
I got an old German HO train but given to you see if you can get it going
I like the Lionel accessories. Love the piggy back truck loader you have. The cattle coral is fun, but takes some patience to get it to work correctly. I got one for $5. The prices in the book don't mean much. It's more of what it's worth to you and how much fun you have with it.
Yup I agree!
Wow you did real good. My second hand store almost never get's trains in. So I buy most from e-bay. One thing about the E-bay always check the shipping. I found stuff real cheep on price but they really stick to you on the shipping & handling. You videos are great. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much! Yup Always make a decision from the shipping price. Hate people who shipping price gouge.
Wow Great Find! Really cool stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Butch, Thanks for watching :-)
If you're good with a small brush, you could get a "mini-Ron" 3-d printed to go on some of your carts and tractors... The brush would be for painting your mug and overalls. John
Ha Ha!! Love the idea John!!
I have a great vintage store nearby which regularly gets a lot of model train *stuff* and it’s run by this nice old guy. I’ve had a lot of great finds there, most recently 5 kit build, brass, pieces of rolling stock from about the 1950s. Unfortunately, the owner will be closing the store at the end of the month due to wanting to retire. So it’s kind of bitter sweet. (It’s double unfortunate because the only other place to get model railroading equipment is about an hour from where I live, oh well.🙃)
Yup, lost a lot of great places because the owner has put in their 30-50 years and the kids don't want nothing to do with it.
Hey there Ron, I recently found your channel and have been really enjoying everything, I was big into trains as a kid, more or so just running them, I started with HO and progressed then to Lionel and American Flyer. I had a few N scale things too, wish I kept them. I have everything but those still. I was passed down an American Flyer Royal Blue S scale freight set from my late grandfather, and while he was around, I ran that thing constantly, we had loads of fun, hearing him enjoy it like he was a kid and tell me all the stories about how him and his buddies played with them. As i’ve gotten a bit older, I’m more into working on things and seeing how they work and i’ve really enjoyed seeing all of your rebuilds of these older machines. You do good work and are entertaining, keep up the good work! I look forward to all the future hauls and rebuilds!
-Jackson
Hello Jackson! Thank you for the cool story about your Grandfather and your kind words about my video's :-)
Thank you for all your info. They are only worth what you are willing to pay . Love my old stuff that is apparently not worth much ! lol
Thanks for watching Ryan. Yup. these are no longer "investments" that's for sure :-)
I bought out a guy at a flea market several years ago and got a terrific lot of Lionel "stuff" for $150.00. It included several smoking Scout engines and an an Atlantic smoker. The lot included the coal elevator, 5 Sunoco tank cars (I restored all the frames), the "Sound of Steam" tender, a Texas Special F-3, more than a dozen freight cars, church kit, depot kit, crossing gate, illuminated crossing bucks & a revolving beacon tower. I think I got a good deal on the Lionel train stuff. Cheers from eastern TN
Sounds like to me you came out pretty good on that deal!!
Thanks Ron, some nice finds in there!
Thank you R.N.W. !
Watching from Santiago, Chili today.
Still Globe trotting I see ;-)
Good find with these. You always have good videos and content keep it up I’ll keep watching them 👍🏻
Thanks so much!
That illuminated Lionel station looks like a plastic copy of the American Flyer #589 Mystic Station. You did ok buying local. All business is like a crap shoot. You win some and you lose some.
AF 589? I will have to keep an eye out and see. Then I will have to wonder who stole who's idea :-)
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American Flyer had the basic design in the 1930s while they were still in Chicago. A.C.Gilbert continued it with some modifications in 1938 when they bought Flyer and moved production from Chicago to New Haven, Connecticut. Lionel's came out after WW2, and is plastic, whereas Flyer's is sheetmetal. You've come a long way in the last year or so. Keep up the good work. It would be great to see at least an oval of Lionel and American Flyer track.
@@ronalddevine9587 Thanks for the history lesson and a bit of a kick in the butt. Your right, I could do a 4x8 oval for both gauges until I get something nicer built. Thanks.... I needed that Sir 🙂
Thank you for sharing. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Nice accessories! Sweet haul! Thanks for the info. That big Lionel book is showing the older prices. However I like the pictures showing the multiple editions. After purchases at model train shows I’m always searching to see if I got a great prize or just a good prize. Newer Greenberg collectors book shows the lower prices. Thanks for recognizing the 33%ers !😊
Hello Steven, Yes I agree after scoring a bunch of stuff I spend a lot of time researching and hoping something is a gold nugget. Thanks for your support!!
Very nice o gauge items you got!
Thanks Matt!
Nice deals, keep them coming.
Thanks! Will do!
Did you find a set of cows yet? I have some that I put on ebay... Those are some great accessories! Marx stuff is pretty neat too
I just have some cows in my watchlist on the eBay. Wait till I recover from purchasing all this before I have extra $$$ for repairs. I'm not sure whats more expensive.... a drinking problem or a train problem ;-)
Great video - I have always found far more satisfaction from fixing up “discarded” models etc, than from buying new ones. Guess that’s why your channel is so interesting to me. Great stuff 😁👍🇦🇺
Thank you! Yes a lot of satisfaction polishing up the "turds" and making beauties out of them
Got some good stuff there Ron well done
Thank you AE!
for us that was a war time one Ron 🤣🤣🤣 good video of some unusual items love the oil derek
Thanks Shakey :-)
THANK, Mr Ron Sir !
Your welcome Jim!
Great video
Thanks Dave!
Great video thank you for sharing
Thanks :-)
Another GREAT Video Ron
Thank you Ron!
Best video I've seen for ages , that good I watched it twice , great open up old box and seeing what's in side i was bouncing for what's next , I would not want all that stuff but thats does not mean i'm not interested and seeing how stuff works now make me wish I had bought when i had the chance , You covered so much kit I have to sit down .
I relised awhile ago that new stuff does not buz me the same , you can pay loads off money get it out of the box ,look at it ,bits fall off then what ,I once got a box for £20 full of old trinag stuff some wrapped in newspaper ,rat crap the lot , the locos that I brought back to life and am still proud when I run them ,not worth much in cash but I tell you I would never sell them and the more work I do on them make them more part of me ,now I think that is value for money in a hobby ,I think guys like us love the old kit because it can be brought back and is so rewarding , the assecorise crack me up ,the way they did things before electronics ,easy to do now but cost a bomd and nowhere near as entertaining to watch .
The picture looks grand on the wall ,not much room left Pal.👌
I like the way you think!
Great video Ron as always! Gonna go ahead and congratulate you on 10k subscribers! Won’t be long so congratulations!
Thank you very much and YUP.... looks like a few days down the road :-)
Had the log loader and the searchlight..which lasted for about a day..lol
Must have been hard on your trains as a young-un? I put a couple of Black-Cat firecrackers under mine a time or two :-)
I know you had questions about the accessories you just bought. A great resource for your interests can be found in the Lionel series of books by Tom McComas and Jim Tuohy. Not only do these books cover the history of Lionel and all the the trains and their development, they delve into the various quirks and challenges to produce such a wonderful line of trains that are just plain fun. Their storytelling is not boring but fascinating, you’ll read them from cover to cover!
I have many books on model trains. Some are very fascinating, but I use them as reference. If I was to read them it would be like reading an encyclopedia for me. Too much information to take in at once ;-) I did check to see if I had any from the authors you mentioned and unfortunately I do not.
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As I mentioned before, these books are an easy and fun read.
Great haul Ron. I enjoyed the video,
Thanks Mr Dennis!!
Another good informational video sir . Thank you .
Thanks very much!
Thanks Ron from a 33 percenter times 3 and a third, great show as always and always an unexpected treat when you pop up on the tuba! Happy Railroading!
Thank so much William!
Awesome haul buddy.
Thanks 👍
nice
Thanks Joe
glue a lip on to the box and its good again. Not the best but it works. There are cardboard restoration videos on youtube maybe you could try that.
Cardboard Resto Vids? I'm gunna check those out! Thanks :-)
neat stuff
Your really making the rounds on the video's I see. Thanks!!
Wow, Merry Christmas to you! It looks like Santa left a bunch of your gifts at the resale store. Who doesn't love classic toys?!? 😸 👍
Yes, It's been a good holiday season of finding great old train stuff this year :-)
Great episode Ron. I loved that derrick and pump. So cool.
That's my favorite piece so far!
Looks like the vintage stuff is still affordable. I haven’t gotten into that stuff much yet, but could be worth looking into. I was surprised to see some HO Tyco engines going for $25.00 at a local second hand store. Maybe it’s me, but I think it’s over priced. Thanks for another great video.
Tyco is actually becoming collectable. A new generation is coming of age and wants to relive their childhood memories as well.
Prices seem a little steep compared with some of the deals I've seen at shows, but most of them weren't entirely unrealistic. Never knew I needed that auto-stop station until I saw it in action, now I think I need to keep my eyes peeled for one going for cheap. The oil derrick is definitely another one to be on the lookout for...
Hope you get your cows working. I have one of the cattle cars and platforms, I started fixing it a while ago but found it a bit of a pain and set it aside. I also have the later horse car, and that one seems much more promising.
I hear a lot of Fellers saying the cows like to tip over
@@classicmodeltrains it's true! They're awful tippy. It's not so bad except when they tip over inside the car, and you gotta fish em out.
Great video, Ron ✔. Loved every minute of it, since I have a few of the Lionel and Marx accessories that you picked up for great prices. Mine all came to me, either from ebay, used train stores, or from Lionel train operators and all cost me slightly more than what you bought your accessories for. But that was 10 years back, and yes, prices were higher back then for some of these vintage pieces. Now, as everyone is saying-- it's the estate sale items that have begun to flood the market.
But, again, my accessories are no where in the great condition that yours are. Mine all operate but for instance, the Marx Girard Station that I have, looks like " who did it and ran !"
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Recently I saw online, a video of where some fellow either purchased or made himself -- new feet for his cows in that Lionel cattle ramp / corral accessory. And once so " repaired " --- it worked much better than before. Apparently those " feet " get run down / wear out rather fast with that accessory. I don't know how the reproduction cows fare ? 🐴🐴🐴
There's one thing to consider about the price guide of the past verses today. With Ebay and other places like Facebook Market, there's more available now than the items that are known to be for sale than the items which were available in the past. The guide's prices were based on prices sold at past train shows or by any sales that were reported to the guide. This can throw of the rarity of the items since it's based on what is known to be sold at the time recorded. This is the reason why many prices drop over time along with supply along with collector demand. If Ebay and Facebook were not around, the prices may not change to dramatically. Also, my personal theory is the demand for pre-War and post-war O gauge items are starting to drop due to collectors aging and passing away which drives the demand down by those who would be interested in these items.
I hear what your saying. makes perfect sense to me :-)
I could never get the cattle car to work right The cows would not move very quickly And with sometimes miss the car and flip over
I wondered if it was going to be a pain in the butt to get it to work properly
These accessories would never come out these days parents would be scared of the electrical sounds and wires.
Completely agree with you there Ray. Bunch of sissys around these days. A good hit of electricity teaches a youngster a good lesson. dont stick your fingers in there :-)
Becareful with that cattle car its the first version with the Armor stickers and its clean….
Copy that!
those floodlights need painting so they before they decide to zinc Pest
I was wondering that myself. although don't think paint will prevent it. Not sure but..........
I love it when something turns up unexpectedly at the second hand shop. They came up great with the old dish soap and wax plus a bit of fiddlin'. To paraphrase, "You're going to need a bigger shed......."🚂🚃🚃🚃😀
Elbow grease make things look real nice ;-)
Greenberg’s is a much better guide and they put out a new price guide every year. I get a new one every two years the prices usually don’t change much year to year but you’re better off with a recent one.
I agree. The one I'm using is from 2004
@@classicmodeltrains A lot has changed in 20 years.
But it makes a warm spot it my heart. I could never afford one when I was a kid . What is the best process for cleaning cars?
Warm mild soap and water and a tooth brush. Some disassembly may be required. Dry well so no rust starts.
Train modeler, (to himself) "I own over 30K in train stock."
Wife, "So, how much did you spend this time?"
Train modeler, "Oh, only a couple of bucks."
LOVE IT!!
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Thanks for feeding the monster!
I have 50 steamers for ya.
You have 50 steamers? Thats a heck of a collection
Ron, Ron, Ron...good job
Thank you :-)