I'm self-employed & working from home, which is disastrous for exercising. I don't even leave the house. I found out 2 tricks. # 1 = I made up a rule that I can’t have my second coffee if I don't go for a walk first. # 2 = buying just enough milk for a few cups of coffee so I have to go out buying milk. Have been trying all kinds of things for years. This has been working for months now, it's a miracle. I guess it's Dodson's C: Challenge or Competition.
Love this idea! I really want a dog, for life enjoyment purposes of course, but also because I intend to work fully from home at some point and I neeeeeed something to make me leave the house. In the meantime, I'll try these rules!
Thank you, a great video and a great article. The only thing that works for me is finding some kind of exercise I really enjoy. I am more artistic type that hates sports, so the solution for me is dance - it is creative, I enjoy it a lot, I meet with nice people and I move my body at the same time. So my advice is not to stick to classic sport/gym if you don't like it and to look for other types of physical activity that are more fun :)
I just found your channel a few days ago. Thank you for producing this content! Listening to you brings me peace because so much of what you say and how you present it takes the additional work of converting general psychology into something that relates to me as a recently diagnosed person. Plus your charming accent makes me smile.
Psychiatrist Hallowell (in his book Adhd 2.0) and psychologist Barkley (in Taking charge of adult adhd) both tell about scientific evidence: dopamine just does'nt come if we have to do boring stuff; the divergent brain doesn’t shut up when we have to be convergent to get things done. Rosier (Your brain is not broken) says her Solve-it Grid helps. Both Rosier and Hallowell have adhd themselves.
Thanks for sharing Félicia. I like what you said there about the divergent brain not shutting up when we need to be convergent - makes me appreciate that it isn't something that we can just 'decide' to do differently. I feel like I'm wrestling a wild animal when I try to converge 😂
Thank you for bringing up the Solve-it Grid! I'd never heard of it before and looked it up. It's really useful information to have--I'm even sending it to someone who has a small business but (probably) doesn't have ADHD because I think it still applies to him.
Thank you for not editing out those "ADHD moments" like when you forget what you're talking about in the middle of talking about it. :D That's me several times a day. It really is just about the novelty. You have to just find new things that are interesting to you and then you feel more motivated. My wife drags me walking nearly everyday but its great when we go somewhere new like a hike in the mountains near us or some new trail. When its warm enough I try and go bike riding. In January we do a 30 day Yoga thing. I know I'm going to be done with it by the end of it but its something different. I just have to accept that I will eventually get bored of whatever this new thing is I'm doing so find some new thing before that happens. Of course then the catch 22 of getting bored of looking for new things to do... our lives are just a series of sprints while everyone else is running marathons.
Thanks Jeremy - glad you find the ADHD moments helpful. I used to feel insecure about them but it's reading comments like yours that makes me feel good about them! Novelty is key - and the acceptance that the novelty will wear off. I wish I'd realised that sooner in life!
I am yet to be diagnosed (i procrastinate making an appointment lmao) but its pretty much a 10/10 for everything you said in that video for me. Right now there are 2 things I do and rediscovered for myself: The first thing is to use every spark of motivation for any task and worry about other stuff later. because of this I am not as depressed anymore because I didn't allow myself to have fun nor follow my interests, now I do things I like again, which is nice! And my motivation for important things will come anyways when the time is right and then it will be easier (but very stressful) The second thing I do which works until something interrupts it: make DAILY habits. Daily workout? easy to follow thru when I allow anything to count as a workout. after like 2 weeks of "urg I will just do 3 minutes of streching" I will do 10 to 20 minutes a day, which is a good thing! It also worked for meditation. I will try for some other things in the future. The deal about daily habits is to not strain yourself, the bar will always hang low, but I don't forget about it because its daily. because the bar hangs low, the resistance to start is low, I don't drop the habit. Well right now I'm on a 3 week break again because my roommate was sick and since corona my chest hurts when I workout while my immune system fights against viruses. ... idk why but I also dropped my other daily habit of meditation because of that
I literally need a ball to chase. Having a football practice at a set time each week with other people present is good external motivation and accountability to go and the fun of a ballgame gives me the internal motivation. The strategic, technical skill and endurance aspects and their interplay makes it infinitely more interesting than gym for me. One downside, you need to find a good group that's on your level. I lost my team when I moved cites and finding a new good one has been too much admin and social vulnerability for years now. Oops.
Oh, note, I'm not diagnosed with adhd-add-asd or anything. Just relate to some of the struggles and have found much of the advice really helpful. Not least the note of self compassion.
Thanks for sharing Albie - I think I need to take some elements of this and build them into my exercise routine. I've never done team sports because other people relying on my sporting ability terrifies me haha but I think the accountability and social element is really important.
Thanks for this honest video ! I like specifics sports. I hate strength training. But I like to do fitness mixed with combat sports and dance. So every time I break my workout routine, I go back to a short video that is a mix of all of these. Yes, at the beginning I'm sulking, after a few seconds I'm laughing in pain and I finish the session very proud. And I try to remember this feeling of pride at the end. Sometimes it works three times a week, sometimes once a month. But the only way that I have de-dramatized the regular practice of sports. There was a time when I used to play basketball all the time. I moved away and stopped. It was either that or nothing for me. Now I try to focus on the feeling of the session and not on the competitive aspect.
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Yes, another topic i needed but didn't know it. I'm sloughing that internalised shame now, and will just pop out for a bike ride whenever the mood takes me!
Yoga. Did it a few times a week over 2-3 yes. Paid a couple of grand (that I couldn't afford) to do the teacher training. Qualified. Haven't done yoga for about 2 years. FML
What helps me extremely is changing my expecations. After dopamine-depleting (fun) activity always comes a dopamine "hangover". My brain cannot be happy and aroused all the time, not even in a perfect life situation. Also, my brain strongly miscalculates future efforts, which often blocks me from getting started. It really helps me to ignore the noise and fear of discomfort in my brain. I get started and don't expect fun. Often, fun and Flow join me once I have started. Other times, it just sucks from start to end. Which is fine, as boredom evens out dopamine levels and makes the next tasks suck less. David Goggins book "can't hurt me" was a game changer to me. Cheery motivation will be gone when the first cold raindrop hits you. Don't expect to feel joy while earning a good life. (luckily, doing hard things is joyful in itself and releases dopamine. Once you got going). Of course, don't go extreme. find a sport and job that suits you, don't make your entire life torture. Although that might be a great learning experience for a week ;-) Novelty works for me with sports as well. I am at sports number 14 now. Just try not to buy all the gear every time😢 you switch ;)
Thanks for sharing! I'm gonna try changing my expectations more. I like to build fun and excitement around what i'm doing to get me started but it gets obvious very quickly that it's hard to sustain efforts if the only thing you're searching for is that dopamine hit!
Great video as always! As someone who just started even trying to exercise regularly in September, went well for three months, and since then I've been trying to get stable motivation again, this gave some good examples and tips! Also, right when you lost your train of thought about the pandemic, I happened to check my phone and get distracted for a minute. I lost track of what was happening in the video so I rewound to the part where you mentioned the pandemic only to find you lost your train of thought as well 😂
I'm studying Therapeutic Recreation. I've had psych classes previously, and the idea of "internal motivation," I literally had to look up. Because my brain so rarely provides that. And it is one of the main goals of my new chosen path. :D heheheheh.
I was diagnosed with adhd at 24 but back then when I tried meds I had bad side effects so I QUICKLY stopped after a few weeks and went untreated till now (32). I just started Concerta 18mg a few days ago and felt no improvements aside of headaches when the Concerta starts to wear off. I run multiple times a week in the majestical woods and it helps. I have run the Chicago marathon multiple times as well as several half marathons. I’ve been working in banking for a while and got tired of being in a tuxedo and behind a desk 10 hours a day. It was making my adhd anxiety worse. So I just got hired to be a special education teacher but it is a far drive. I’m debating if the long drive will be too much. It’s an hour drive each way on top of working 8 hours. Are you still taking the Concerta? I plan on trying to increase to 27mg dose but If that also doesn’t work I may try Vyvanse or go untreated again. I don’t like the side effects. Plus it cost me $413 for one month supply of the Concerta 18mg and it did nothing aside of give me headaches. Only been on it five days so I will see what happens.
Please please tell me there is a book by William Dodson somewhere that psychiatrists and psychologists can read. This neurotypical-based training they gave me was so frustrating.
I got him for Christmas from a friend about 15 years ago and there was something captivating about him 😆 he just has a little solar panel that makes him rock his head from side to side
I'm self-employed & working from home, which is disastrous for exercising. I don't even leave the house. I found out 2 tricks. # 1 = I made up a rule that I can’t have my second coffee if I don't go for a walk first. # 2 = buying just enough milk for a few cups of coffee so I have to go out buying milk. Have been trying all kinds of things for years. This has been working for months now, it's a miracle. I guess it's Dodson's C: Challenge or Competition.
Love this idea! I really want a dog, for life enjoyment purposes of course, but also because I intend to work fully from home at some point and I neeeeeed something to make me leave the house. In the meantime, I'll try these rules!
So relatable that a break in routine means things just get left behind, because you don't get back to doing them.
Thank you, a great video and a great article.
The only thing that works for me is finding some kind of exercise I really enjoy. I am more artistic type that hates sports, so the solution for me is dance - it is creative, I enjoy it a lot, I meet with nice people and I move my body at the same time. So my advice is not to stick to classic sport/gym if you don't like it and to look for other types of physical activity that are more fun :)
yeaa that works for me too! I also do animal walks or other stuff I think are interesting for me right now. martial arts are also more fun to do!
I just found your channel a few days ago. Thank you for producing this content! Listening to you brings me peace because so much of what you say and how you present it takes the additional work of converting general psychology into something that relates to me as a recently diagnosed person. Plus your charming accent makes me smile.
Yay, thanks for being here!
Psychiatrist Hallowell (in his book Adhd 2.0) and psychologist Barkley (in Taking charge of adult adhd) both tell about scientific evidence: dopamine just does'nt come if we have to do boring stuff; the divergent brain doesn’t shut up when we have to be convergent to get things done. Rosier (Your brain is not broken) says her Solve-it Grid helps. Both Rosier and Hallowell have adhd themselves.
Thanks for sharing Félicia. I like what you said there about the divergent brain not shutting up when we need to be convergent - makes me appreciate that it isn't something that we can just 'decide' to do differently. I feel like I'm wrestling a wild animal when I try to converge 😂
Thank you for bringing up the Solve-it Grid! I'd never heard of it before and looked it up. It's really useful information to have--I'm even sending it to someone who has a small business but (probably) doesn't have ADHD because I think it still applies to him.
Thank you for not editing out those "ADHD moments" like when you forget what you're talking about in the middle of talking about it. :D That's me several times a day.
It really is just about the novelty. You have to just find new things that are interesting to you and then you feel more motivated. My wife drags me walking nearly everyday but its great when we go somewhere new like a hike in the mountains near us or some new trail. When its warm enough I try and go bike riding. In January we do a 30 day Yoga thing. I know I'm going to be done with it by the end of it but its something different. I just have to accept that I will eventually get bored of whatever this new thing is I'm doing so find some new thing before that happens. Of course then the catch 22 of getting bored of looking for new things to do... our lives are just a series of sprints while everyone else is running marathons.
Thanks Jeremy - glad you find the ADHD moments helpful. I used to feel insecure about them but it's reading comments like yours that makes me feel good about them! Novelty is key - and the acceptance that the novelty will wear off. I wish I'd realised that sooner in life!
@@rachdoesyoutube your diagnosis video is what got me to get diagnosed. I’m 46 so you’re ahead of me at least. 😀
I am yet to be diagnosed (i procrastinate making an appointment lmao) but its pretty much a 10/10 for everything you said in that video for me.
Right now there are 2 things I do and rediscovered for myself: The first thing is to use every spark of motivation for any task and worry about other stuff later. because of this I am not as depressed anymore because I didn't allow myself to have fun nor follow my interests, now I do things I like again, which is nice! And my motivation for important things will come anyways when the time is right and then it will be easier (but very stressful)
The second thing I do which works until something interrupts it: make DAILY habits. Daily workout? easy to follow thru when I allow anything to count as a workout. after like 2 weeks of "urg I will just do 3 minutes of streching" I will do 10 to 20 minutes a day, which is a good thing! It also worked for meditation. I will try for some other things in the future.
The deal about daily habits is to not strain yourself, the bar will always hang low, but I don't forget about it because its daily. because the bar hangs low, the resistance to start is low, I don't drop the habit.
Well right now I'm on a 3 week break again because my roommate was sick and since corona my chest hurts when I workout while my immune system fights against viruses.
... idk why but I also dropped my other daily habit of meditation because of that
subscribed, ive had a massive breakthrough in understanding of why ive never gotten anything done and then dowsed myself in guilt, thank you so much
Wahoo! So glad to hear it. Thanks for subbing 💫
I literally need a ball to chase. Having a football practice at a set time each week with other people present is good external motivation and accountability to go and the fun of a ballgame gives me the internal motivation. The strategic, technical skill and endurance aspects and their interplay makes it infinitely more interesting than gym for me. One downside, you need to find a good group that's on your level. I lost my team when I moved cites and finding a new good one has been too much admin and social vulnerability for years now. Oops.
Oh, note, I'm not diagnosed with adhd-add-asd or anything. Just relate to some of the struggles and have found much of the advice really helpful. Not least the note of self compassion.
Thanks for sharing Albie - I think I need to take some elements of this and build them into my exercise routine. I've never done team sports because other people relying on my sporting ability terrifies me haha but I think the accountability and social element is really important.
Thanks for this honest video ! I like specifics sports. I hate strength training. But I like to do fitness mixed with combat sports and dance. So every time I break my workout routine, I go back to a short video that is a mix of all of these. Yes, at the beginning I'm sulking, after a few seconds I'm laughing in pain and I finish the session very proud. And I try to remember this feeling of pride at the end. Sometimes it works three times a week, sometimes once a month. But the only way that I have de-dramatized the regular practice of sports. There was a time when I used to play basketball all the time. I moved away and stopped. It was either that or nothing for me. Now I try to focus on the feeling of the session and not on the competitive aspect.
Hey Emmanuelle , wow, i'm interested in those videos of the mix between combat sports and dance. Can you copy the link here? Thanks in advance
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Helpful and funny. Glad your channel was recommended, can relate 110% 😄👍🏽 x
Yes, another topic i needed but didn't know it. I'm sloughing that internalised shame now, and will just pop out for a bike ride whenever the mood takes me!
Thank you. I'd be really interested in knowing more about your time as a primary teacher and the challenges ADHD brought as well as how you managed.
Yoga. Did it a few times a week over 2-3 yes. Paid a couple of grand (that I couldn't afford) to do the teacher training. Qualified. Haven't done yoga for about 2 years. FML
Very relateable Julie!
What helps me extremely is changing my expecations. After dopamine-depleting (fun) activity always comes a dopamine "hangover". My brain cannot be happy and aroused all the time, not even in a perfect life situation. Also, my brain strongly miscalculates future efforts, which often blocks me from getting started.
It really helps me to ignore the noise and fear of discomfort in my brain. I get started and don't expect fun. Often, fun and Flow join me once I have started. Other times, it just sucks from start to end. Which is fine, as boredom evens out dopamine levels and makes the next tasks suck less.
David Goggins book "can't hurt me" was a game changer to me. Cheery motivation will be gone when the first cold raindrop hits you. Don't expect to feel joy while earning a good life. (luckily, doing hard things is joyful in itself and releases dopamine. Once you got going).
Of course, don't go extreme. find a sport and job that suits you, don't make your entire life torture. Although that might be a great learning experience for a week ;-)
Novelty works for me with sports as well. I am at sports number 14 now. Just try not to buy all the gear every time😢 you switch ;)
Thanks for sharing! I'm gonna try changing my expectations more. I like to build fun and excitement around what i'm doing to get me started but it gets obvious very quickly that it's hard to sustain efforts if the only thing you're searching for is that dopamine hit!
Great video as always! As someone who just started even trying to exercise regularly in September, went well for three months, and since then I've been trying to get stable motivation again, this gave some good examples and tips!
Also, right when you lost your train of thought about the pandemic, I happened to check my phone and get distracted for a minute. I lost track of what was happening in the video so I rewound to the part where you mentioned the pandemic only to find you lost your train of thought as well 😂
Great to see you again in the comments Fargoth! 😊And I love that we were synced up on losing train of thought haha
I'm studying Therapeutic Recreation. I've had psych classes previously, and the idea of "internal motivation," I literally had to look up. Because my brain so rarely provides that. And it is one of the main goals of my new chosen path. :D
heheheheh.
I was diagnosed with adhd at 24 but back then when I tried meds I had bad side effects so I QUICKLY stopped after a few weeks and went untreated till now (32). I just started Concerta 18mg a few days ago and felt no improvements aside of headaches when the Concerta starts to wear off. I run multiple times a week in the majestical woods and it helps. I have run the Chicago marathon multiple times as well as several half marathons. I’ve been working in banking for a while and got tired of being in a tuxedo and behind a desk 10 hours a day. It was making my adhd anxiety worse. So I just got hired to be a special education teacher but it is a far drive. I’m debating if the long drive will be too much. It’s an hour drive each way on top of working 8 hours. Are you still taking the Concerta? I plan on trying to increase to 27mg dose but If that also doesn’t work I may try Vyvanse or go untreated again. I don’t like the side effects. Plus it cost me $413 for one month supply of the Concerta 18mg and it did nothing aside of give me headaches. Only been on it five days so I will see what happens.
hope thing have improved over the last month, you've done great to get through the anxiety of a change of career and routine, respect
Please please tell me there is a book by William Dodson somewhere that psychiatrists and psychologists can read. This neurotypical-based training they gave me was so frustrating.
What is this pink toy shaking his head in background?
I got him for Christmas from a friend about 15 years ago and there was something captivating about him 😆 he just has a little solar panel that makes him rock his head from side to side
@@rachdoesyoutube That makes him even cooler that he has selfsustained energy and after all those years he still looks so modern and works fine