exactly, the haters are real. band wagon jumping doesnt make people better at playing guitar. I would like to hear what jeff has to say about these amps...
Everyone knocking this amp have completely missed the point of the amp. Of course Jeff doesn't tour with a 75W modelling amp worth about £250. It is a practise amp that works perfectly well at modelling most tones at a bedroom volume, which is all a lot of people need (no point spending £3000 on a Mesa half stack if you're never going to turn it up). For the price, there's no knocking this amp.
The Emissary by Ignite is free and only requires a DAW and audio interface like Reaper, and will produce far better tones than the Spider. There is almost no real need of modeling amps nowadays. But of course, I'd recommend them over VSTs to a kid who's just starting out since most don't have an audio interface or know how to use a DAW.
@@coffinfeeder7732 Still tho, you can just connect your guitar to smth like garageband (i know it ain't optimal but still) and get decent tones out of it without spending much money and needing much knowledge
The Line 6 is an amp!!!!!! PERIOD! In fact, this might be the greatest measuring tool out there. Obviously, if you can make this sound good then you are the greatest guitar player out there! I can make my Line 6 sound good and I am no where near as good as Jeff! It's all about taking the time to dial in the amp and speaker......It has a 12" Celestion in the box.
Line 6 has the best practice amps hands down. All the different tone options and effects are perfect for anyone. Plus the POD is one if the most influential pieces of guitar equipment ever. Love Line 6. Thank You!!!
He probably uploaded a tone onto the amp. It sounds ok by its self, but it's not really meant for much besides practice. I owned one for about 4 years and it sounded pretty good I guess. Then again, its Jeff Loomis playing. He could make a shoebox amp sound good.
Yeah. I use the same amp. I got it as a holiday gift about 5 years ago now and I can't afford a half-stack, maybe even a stack, yet. I use a Digitech Element XP for my tones. Great amp, great effects pedal. Just like anything else, you have to play with it for a while to iron out details in tone.
Rich J you're just upset because your 200$ amp is a potato and you were tricked into buying it by a good salesman. They sound great in a practice setting, but it's going to lose every time in a live setting. Just because you think it sounds good, doesn't make it as good as any tube amp. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but the reason these sell so well is because they are great practice amps and they are cheap.
+james gerth "Then again, its Jeff Loomis playing. He could make a shoebox amp sound good." - that's the point right there. Idiots these days think they are a special snowflake blaming their incompetence on equipment and what they don't have as if a new amp will magically make them better. Hell no. If one is good they're good on anything. If one is shit, mesa's and oranges aren't gonna help much. So better get back to practice.
It's good for its price that's the key. If you can't afford much then get a line6 spider. I know someone who gigged with one for years until he could afford a better amp guess how many people said he sounded shit. No one, no one cares because he's a brilliant guitarist and he was using a high end fender custom, now he has a hot rod deluxe (as he's actually a blues guitarist) and guess how many people said how much better it was, no one, apart from the odd guitarist that had the ear for it.
+HulktastickFTW Music isn't the gear the musician has. It's what they do with it. I've had people come up to me after a show thinking I had top end amps, pedals, and guitars when all I run is a Mustang III with the 4 button footswitch and usually a mexian strat, epi g400 deluxe with maestro, platinum series mockingbird, or sx telecaster copy (modded). Haters gonna hate.
+HulktastickFTW It's not always the gear, it's the guitarist. I defend Line 6 for being cheap and fun and you can actually get some good sounds out of it if you concentrate on what you are playing not just the tone.
+Craig Surface exactly what I'm saying dude. People bad mouth gear all the time and I always say the same olé not here to see what he's using in gear to see what he's music is like.
+L Blair yeah I get you. I had a mashall valve state 2000 for about 5 years because I couldn't afford anything high end and it was given to me. Now I have a good job and a dual rectifier and a mk 5 and they are awesome as hell but it was that old ass Marshall that kept me going.
+HulktastickFTW i had one of these, i got it for 250 and loved it at the time because it was my first real amp Earlier this year I was at a music go round and saw a Randall 2 speaker 120 watt combo for 120$ I took my line6 75w with the pedal and got 150 in store credit. I bought that randall and a digitech Metal Master pedal and it's TONS better than the Line6 I had, it's louder, sounds better, feels better, and takes pedals way better than the Line 6
I have a Line 6 Spider IV 150W half stack and I think it sounds pretty damn good in my house. I'd love to try it out in a warehouse and crank it up. I don't know why people say Line 6 is a bad amp because it really isn't. My old bandmate had a Marshall, and it sounded like ass. I know Line 6 isn't the best amp in the entire world, but it's no where near the worst either.
+Andrew Zbinden yup, I think for an tran amp it's really good. I just don't really need that many effects, so I may get me something from orange...more simplistic
Andrew Zbinden I have the HD150 and it's good for my bedroom and practice but it sounds too HI FI for my liking if that makes sense. I am still positive I could get away playing it live and no one would complain.
I can get this tone easy out of a spider. key things on the line 6 I feel people get lost on when searching AMP mods ect, ect, is the Noise gate and EQ. The noise gate on a lot of the pre set presence is set high. Heck even when you just turn the settings yourself it's high. One thing I noticed about gates is they do effect the little nuances in your playing if set high. It can give the illusion of a flat sound. But you turn it down about half of what it is and things start to pop out and set down. The sound becomes much more alive. But it seems like default settings on the spider are studio like (where your just tracking a rhythm that's choppy and you don't want noise in-between) But its not great for lively solos. In basic, turn it down. Then the EQ on these Is a tad more sensitive then most, and playing around with it changes things a lot. They seemed to sheer everything, so I just ussaly turn the high down mid up on any pre setting and it comes out nice. Theirs actually two AMP emulators on the each of the 8 that show. I forget which one, but the 5th one sounded great. and for leads and metal rythems stuff, the 15th out of the 16 is mean. The harmony sounds are pretty dang good for a all in one set up. I think if your Rec demos that are on the edge and you need a lot of odd places to go, the effects you get are pretty cool. Its a tough amp to describe, but vary cool if you know what your doing. I have nothing against guys just ussing tubes and 2 settings like the 70s. But we're getting to a point to embrace odd, and changes, and see where kids can push it. Guys like Joe S & Vai are ussing stuff on PCs for tone post amp. I think Joe has even used everything without a amp at all on a few of his last records. Mainly that sheer top end and Gate out of box is what throw people off. But you can change those easy and grab some tone. I kind of like them to be honest.
Also like one said, the delays and stuff have their own EQs, so you can dial it it in. If you own one just save those presents. Your presents once learned will sound 10 times better then the pre set ones.
Thanks,@BlueTransAm83,fyi, I drove a blue 81🤘 trans am..I just got one of these amps to use for practice and mostly doing recording parts for writing with people, for projects, etc ... I've never had anything but Marshall heads, and 412s with vintage 30 Celestion speakers so this is a change to me big time .. Although I just bought a5150 cab to go with a good tube head shortly, this Lil spider is all I have right now and I'm enjoying adjusting for tones
I have this exact amp and I love it! I get the tones I want and the Celestian 12" is great sounding. Proof that it's not in the name on the amp, it's the player that makes the sound! I use a Kramer Striker II and I get those lead tones and more...all day long!
I'd bet most people who knock Line 6 products haven't spent any or very little time with one. Great products. Even in this vid, if you think it sounds thin, maybe he likes this tone and set the amp that way. Fairly certain he knows his way around setting an amp up any way he pleases. Great vid. Great products.
I have a Line 6 spider 4 150 and it sounds incredible, the effects are great, there are many features to use, used to play a Carvin SX200 and this sounds really good, Rocks the house
I don't work for Line 6, but I sure as hell wish I did. After watching this video, I went out and bought the Spider IV 75 Line 6 and used it in conjunction with my Guitar POD XT Live. This is where the magic of Line 6 products really happens. I'd never really considered either Line 6 amps or my POD to be anything spectacular--until I heard them operate, as the Gods of Line 6 intended, together as one unit. Achieved nearly identical tone with an Omen Active 7 and an ESP LTD. Thank you Line 6!
As an owner of three different Spider amps, a II, a III, and now a IV, I can say these amps are great for what they are. They're great for bedroom practice and jamming with buddies even can hold their own over a drummer with enough wattage. However, I've recently picked up a 50w 5150 III head and I can honestly tell you... there's nothing like the warmth of pure valve tone. That being said, I think I'm keeping my little Spider III as my practice amp forever!
The funny part about this old video is if Jeff had been playing some soon to be released Hughes and Kettner "Blade Burner" or Bogner "Neptune," the vast majority would have been chiming in about how phenomenal his new amp sounded. Guitarists are only exceeded by golfers in how full of bullshit they can be. "Hey dude, check out my new $499 driver that I crank 325 yards into the f'ng trees" Good carpenters don't blame their tools. A decent amp can sound great when the guitarist IS great.
James Morrison. I don't think L6 markets the Spider series as anything but a practice or small gig amp. In that regard, they serve their purpose well enough as Jeff illustrates here.
I own a Spider IV 75 watt and agree that this amp can really rock. I find the red metal amp model sounds similar to the third Ramones album and the green insane model captures the flavour of the second album. I cranked it to 10 recently and the sound did not seem broken up (but it almost flattened the house on account of the sheer volume).
If someone told me this was written by the Amott brothers 15 years ago, I wouldn't even blink. Jeff has to have been the most natural fit for Arch Enemy physically possible
Lmao at the people saying that the tone is only in the players hands. This tone is clearly shit and this song sounded 1000 times better thru the engl powerball.
absolutely it sounded better... this is nothing on his studio tones or hell even the emg promo vids he did sounded leaps and bounds better than this tone, although i must say this is probably one of best tones this amp has ever produced... jeff is obviously a massive part of this but still, the spider amp is trash...
I thought the high end was a little thin or buzzy sounding. I know it's not his playing. It could be the amp or the way they recorded it. Line 6 has come along way though.
AD M Of course it was. Line 6 amps are decent, but people like to bash on them because it's 'cool' to do so. They heard some loud opinionated people talk shit on them and they just agree blindly. Unforunately some people's first impression of an amp will be a video of some teenager playing badly, with poor phone cam mic audio. Most people who insult cheap amps/guitars have never even played them to know for themselves what they are like. As a practice amp / gigging amp then the big Line 6's are a good choice if you have a small budget.
I owned a Line 6 spider 2, for about 7 years. It really is terrible sounding. It is ok for a beginner (which I was at the time), but eventually you will want to buy a much better amp.
That's why I stopped tone chasing, and just decided on my own tone. I like the way it sounds, so I'm happy. You can never nail another person's tone, no matter how hard you try, even if you completely replicate their rig.
Just goes to show, it’s all in the hands, rarely matters what amp/gear you’re using. People hate on Line 6 so much, I’m sorry, if you know how to dial in a amplifier and you can’t afford a Revv Generator or Mesa Boogie mark V or II + etc. not everyone has 10k to buy a badass tube head and cabinet along with a custom shop guitar. I’m 52 and have owned Rectos, Knuckleheads and 5150 amps, had to sell most of my gear for reasons unforeseen. I’m currently recording with a Spider 4 150 HD and it’s getting the job done (boosting manual recto channel with a Mesa flux five overdrive lol) great musician Jeff Loomis is, and seems like a good dude too.
That's exactly why I clicked haha. I think the only reason it sounds remotely good is a bunch of back end editing. Line 6 sounds (to quote Glenn Fricker) like fried assholes hahaha
I own Spider V 240 head + cab and it rips your face off and tears the walls down in a good way when you know how to dial in proper tone. Have been playing metal for 30 years and also own various tube amps so i got proper reference. I disagree with all the haters saying Spiders suck for playing metal. But i guess it is popular to hate on Line6 and Spiders. Doesn’t hurt my feelings. Jeff is doing a masterful job here shredding on the Spider 😎
@@cuffedpans cause people are sheep and they follow whatever trend is popular because they're desperate to fit in. people do these mental gymnastics to cope with their own expensive retarded purchases
I tell you what I have a POD xt which is pretty old and it was good but still had that "digital" sound but I recently bought this amp and couldnt believe how far modeling amps have came. I love my 75w Spider.
You have to play around with the controls to get this tone with direct imput but YES you can get it :) I have this tone effortlessly from my Spider IV 120w- it took me time to get the perfect tone, and here's a tip - only clean channel red and metal channel red are usable. the rest is utter garbage. Your guitar is also a big factor - you won't get this tone on a fucking squier, you need some nice Seymor JB or EMG-s for this. Also, different tuning MUCH different settings. On D standars for instance my settings are - gain 6/10 , bass 4/10 middle 5/10 trebble 9/10 ... thats with Seymor duncan JB pickup. When i use my PRS guitar with custom pickups that have less gain i have to add some gain and mids to the amp to get similar tone... You can't expect the amp to do all the work for your ass.
***** I usually go high treble, about 1 o'clock bass, and you can either choke the mids at about 8 o'clock or boost them up to about 3 o'clock. on Insane green that is. Drive is up to your pups
Zesty i guess the green channel just has too much drive and compression for my taste. i go like 5-6 oçlock drive on my red metal channel and it's more then enough with Seymors or EMG 81
Wow, never even heard of this dude. I got my Line 6 120 yesterday and was just dinking around with line 6 videos. This dude really does shred. I've been practicing Holy Wars(Mustaine) he rips too. LOL BTW the amp sounds great, the reason this video sounds so amazing. Is the microphone they used to record the actual you tube video. That turns your average video's into video's that impress for 100 dollars( price of a decent mic) all your vids will sounds better too. Probably not like this guys. But you get the point.
LISTEN UP! No amp will make anyone sound good. Its an amplifier, if you play like a god it will amplify it. If you play like shit, it will amplify it. Its all about how you play. But historically, Line 6 amplifiers tend to send flat and not very good. Maybe they've gotten better.
this is true... albeit they still have the line 6 fizz, but they are FAR better than ever before... even the pod xt was huge step up from the pod, and the hds are a huge step ahead of the prior units and so on and so forth... soon emulation will be identical to a tube model, its bound to happen.
I love the haters, just so many tone snobs who have never even tried to used a line 6 product because it doesnt cost enough or isnt a studio product. the tone options for this little amp are pretty good and if you played guitar well, they sound like they are supposed to.
Surprise surprise. This rhythm tones out of this thing are only a couple levels above amplified farting. Very shrill highs. As always though, Jeff Loomis is an amazing player. But seriously.. The iPad apps sound better.
except jeff loomis did play emgs until he recently swapped into duncans, and his emg tone with his engls was killer.... the pickups have NOTHING to do with this tone dude... his new duncans would sound almost identical... its the amp man the pickups may sculpt a bit of tone but his pickups have always been high output, so emg or his now used duncans the tonal differences would be nigh...
I owned a Spider 2 75 watt head and recently acquired a IV 150 head. I also own a couple custom tube amps, such as a rack mount Bassman and modded champ, and also a Digitech GSP1101. You will never get classic tube tones with the spider series (can't speak for the valve ones), but they do produce very useable tones that IMO are just as great as any tube amp, and that no tube amp will ever produce. The Metal and Insane channels are where these amps really come into their own light. But if you're trying to go for a blues breaker tone or something of that nature, you are not going to get it here.
@Joaquinololas "Beefy" is kind of subjective but remember this is a 6 1/2" speaker so getting really full thick sounds can be challenging. Once you get an amp with bigger speakers you'll start to see that your sound will get much more full.
I refuse to believe he's playing through that amp, there's no way a spider could ever sound that good on its own. I think it's interesting that they didn't show the entire amp, possibly because I doubt the fucking thing is even miked up.
***** I own the amp, it's a piece of shit, I can squeeze one usable sound out of it, I've done more than audition it, I've had to live with it for years.
***** The bass is muddy and nasty. The mids are barely existent. The high's are pretty much non existant up until like 1 o clock and then anywhere after that is far too much, and the gain, oh god the gain. I'll give line 6 spiders their due on the cleans and the effects, but for a metal tone on the cheap I couldn't think of a worse amp.
***** I'm not sure the actual model they are since they came with the guitar but they're some type of wilkinson passive's into a les paul copy, it actually sounds great for a pretty cheap guitar, but I'm guessing they skimped on the frets and tuners and that's why everything else sounds and feels great.
I own a Spider myself, and there's not a blind test in the world that would convince me that it's a good amp. It's an older type and I checked out this video to see if the Spiders have gotten better over time, but nope. Total crap. Especially weird since digital amp sims have gotten so good in the past few years.
+BestUsernameIGot I think the fact is this video here demonstrates that... should be enough to settle this quick. If Jeff Loomis can't make an amp that's made for (EMG) metal shredding sound good... then I think there may be a problem with the tone.
+BestUsernameIGot . i own and still gig and record with, an original spider 212 combo (the red face panel ones) and in all the years i've had it, everyone that hears it, including other guitarists, rave about how good it sounds..it's been a workhorse since i bought it back in 2000..but like anything that's manufactured, maybe you just got a bad one..it happens..
@Ethan314159 Yes, and by doing so it adds a volume boost to the signal, which in turn will add more drive (even if it is a solid state amp). Also, there are about 3-4 different tube screamer models these days, most of them are actually just overdrive pedals which emulate the effect of a tube screamer.
I own that particular amp and yes you absolutely can get that sound out of it, most of the people complaining never look past the presents that come with it (which are absolute crap) And by the way I do think that a tube amp would sound even better, they usually do and given the chance I'd switch to an Engl Fireball in a heartbeat. However for what this amp goes for, you can't get a better sounding amp tubes or no tubes.
I'm just going to quote Ola Englund here "Line6 Spider amps are amps that are supposed to be cheap entry level stuff. For that they are awesome, for someone starting out playing guitar they are perfect. You don't have to shell out a lot of money and they sound ok. It's when people think that they will get a sound that competes with +500€ amps that they get bad rep. Just don't expect to get more than what you pay for."
@Hertsman50 Plug the pedal into the guitar input on your Spider. I'd start by dialing the gain on the pedal way back and just focusing on your crunch tone on the amp first. Then you can gradually bring the gain up on the pedal to fine tune it. You can also try using a Clean amp model on the Spider and then using the pedal itself for most of your crunch tones.
Please keep in mind that modeling amplifiers will require you to understanding the amps functions and tweaking to get full use out of it to find that perfect tone your looking for...another factor to take in is that although this amp may be a great or not it's all about the player and equipment your sending thru the amp..in this case you have a very well disciplined guitarist who is also using a kickass sounding guitar with amazing action and pickups...just keep that in mind please
@Hertsman50 Your guitar for starters may be the issue. Keith typically uses single coil type pickups on his teles and strats. Try the Blues channels on your amp and bring the gain up a bit. If you have to go with humbuckers then try using the bridge position.
Back when I briefly had my Spider IV 15, I didn’t even bother checking if it contains a Variax interfacevlike the Pod HD and Helix models. Has it? As others have said, I would not have noticed it was a Line 6 product if I didn’t read the title. It sounded like the Mesa Boogie line.
Hi everyone ! You've got to know that Line 6 spider IV amps (my 120w is) have a direct line out. I record with it for 3 years ago now and with a good mix on Logic Pro I've got a fuckin amazing result. Really much better than my Mesa Mini rectifier and his CabClone (this last one is bullshit). So enjoy those amps wich are extroadinary for the price ,)
If "Line 6" was never mentioned in the title, nobody would even question the tone!!
exactly, the haters are real. band wagon jumping doesnt make people better at playing guitar. I would like to hear what jeff has to say about these amps...
Truth
so true lol ...
Metal GuitarSolid best comment 🤣
This auto played and I was like what is wrong with my EQ? And then I saw the title like, oh.
1:32 Line6 pls stop
lol saw the comment, wondered what it was talking about, when it happened couldn't help but laugh.
Honton X :) I try
Zesty Jajajajajaja Epilepsy
Zesty But i like it
+Zesty I had to laugh when i saw this comment then saw the video lol
Jeff Loomis is one of the best Guitarists of the century!!!!!!!!
Of course i'm agree till now no body can defeat him!❤❤
@@HatiMetal4Evermarty friedman >
Moral of the story: It doesn't matter what kind of gear you have. The best guitarists are the ones who write great songs.
haha yes
finally someone that isn't stupid
I highly doubt that Jeff actually used that amp.
Everyone is talking about the amp... Jeff is awesome !! ;)
+KirkTheRipper Hammett That's a given :)
Seizure editing effect at 1:32
Enjoy'n this musical masterpiece again & again. This guy has got that special guitar gift talented beyond belief.
Everyone knocking this amp have completely missed the point of the amp. Of course Jeff doesn't tour with a 75W modelling amp worth about £250. It is a practise amp that works perfectly well at modelling most tones at a bedroom volume, which is all a lot of people need (no point spending £3000 on a Mesa half stack if you're never going to turn it up). For the price, there's no knocking this amp.
thats exactly the point
The Emissary by Ignite is free and only requires a DAW and audio interface like Reaper, and will produce far better tones than the Spider.
There is almost no real need of modeling amps nowadays. But of course, I'd recommend them over VSTs to a kid who's just starting out since most don't have an audio interface or know how to use a DAW.
@@coffinfeeder7732 Still tho, you can just connect your guitar to smth like garageband (i know it ain't optimal but still) and get decent tones out of it without spending much money and needing much knowledge
Yes the Vox VT40X sounds better but hey
You've Clearly never tried Neural DSP plugins.
This is awesome. Ive heard people say they dont like Line 6 like the pod or stuff like that but to me it sounds good
+Kyle Bentzinger (Troll Industries Owner) The sound is actually really shit
Jeff Loomis is so freaking good. Geeeeeeeeeze. That's a really great lead guitar tone, too.
The Line 6 is an amp!!!!!! PERIOD!
In fact, this might be the greatest measuring tool out there.
Obviously, if you can make this sound good then you are the greatest guitar player out there!
I can make my Line 6 sound good and I am no where near as good as Jeff!
It's all about taking the time to dial in the amp and speaker......It has a 12" Celestion in the box.
Amen
Jeff Loomis can make a potato sound good.
lol hahahahaaha
maybe a patato, but not a line 6 spider
The man is a wizard
More like EMG 707 can make a potato sound good.
There are no active Nazgul pickups
I freaking love my Line 6 Spider 4, 75w. So versatile, and great tones. Good work!
Line 6 has the best practice amps hands down. All the different tone options and effects are perfect for anyone. Plus the POD is one if the most influential pieces of guitar equipment ever. Love Line 6. Thank You!!!
wow, that guy is a pretty damn good guitar player. I'm not even a big shredder metal fan, but that was very enjoyable.
Gotta shred my guitar playing brotha 🤘🤘
Yupp. That's the best that amp will ever sound.
He probably uploaded a tone onto the amp. It sounds ok by its self, but it's not really meant for much besides practice. I owned one for about 4 years and it sounded pretty good I guess. Then again, its Jeff Loomis playing. He could make a shoebox amp sound good.
Well said james. That's why line6 also uses these phenomenal musicians on their guitars(if you want to call them that). Dam this guy can play.
Yeah. I use the same amp. I got it as a holiday gift about 5 years ago now and I can't afford a half-stack, maybe even a stack, yet. I use a Digitech Element XP for my tones. Great amp, great effects pedal. Just like anything else, you have to play with it for a while to iron out details in tone.
Rich J you're just upset because your 200$ amp is a potato and you were tricked into buying it by a good salesman. They sound great in a practice setting, but it's going to lose every time in a live setting. Just because you think it sounds good, doesn't make it as good as any tube amp. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but the reason these sell so well is because they are great practice amps and they are cheap.
Rich J oh my apologies 299. Like that makes a difference.
+james gerth "Then again, its Jeff Loomis playing. He could make a shoebox amp sound good." - that's the point right there. Idiots these days think they are a special snowflake blaming their incompetence on equipment and what they don't have as if a new amp will magically make them better. Hell no. If one is good they're good on anything. If one is shit, mesa's and oranges aren't gonna help much. So better get back to practice.
I still have a Spider II head and it's still rockin'. Love Line 6.
It's good for its price that's the key. If you can't afford much then get a line6 spider. I know someone who gigged with one for years until he could afford a better amp guess how many people said he sounded shit. No one, no one cares because he's a brilliant guitarist and he was using a high end fender custom, now he has a hot rod deluxe (as he's actually a blues guitarist) and guess how many people said how much better it was, no one, apart from the odd guitarist that had the ear for it.
+HulktastickFTW Music isn't the gear the musician has. It's what they do with it. I've had people come up to me after a show thinking I had top end amps, pedals, and guitars when all I run is a Mustang III with the 4 button footswitch and usually a mexian strat, epi g400 deluxe with maestro, platinum series mockingbird, or sx telecaster copy (modded). Haters gonna hate.
+HulktastickFTW It's not always the gear, it's the guitarist. I defend Line 6 for being cheap and fun and you can actually get some good sounds out of it if you concentrate on what you are playing not just the tone.
+Craig Surface exactly what I'm saying dude. People bad mouth gear all the time and I always say the same olé not here to see what he's using in gear to see what he's music is like.
+L Blair yeah I get you. I had a mashall valve state 2000 for about 5 years because I couldn't afford anything high end and it was given to me. Now I have a good job and a dual rectifier and a mk 5 and they are awesome as hell but it was that old ass Marshall that kept me going.
+HulktastickFTW i had one of these, i got it for 250 and loved it at the time because it was my first real amp
Earlier this year I was at a music go round and saw a Randall 2 speaker 120 watt combo for 120$
I took my line6 75w with the pedal and got 150 in store credit. I bought that randall and a digitech Metal Master pedal and it's TONS better than the Line6 I had, it's louder, sounds better, feels better, and takes pedals way better than the Line 6
I have a Line 6 Spider IV 150W half stack and I think it sounds pretty damn good in my house. I'd love to try it out in a warehouse and crank it up. I don't know why people say Line 6 is a bad amp because it really isn't. My old bandmate had a Marshall, and it sounded like ass. I know Line 6 isn't the best amp in the entire world, but it's no where near the worst either.
Everyone seems to love my spider 3. It only gets hate on the internet.
+Andrew Zbinden yup, I think for an tran amp it's really good. I just don't really need that many effects, so I may get me something from orange...more simplistic
Same here, m8, same here, but I own a 30w Spider combo /watch?v=2LjvhngOF6U
Andrew Zbinden I have the HD150 and it's good for my bedroom and practice but it sounds too HI FI for my liking if that makes sense.
I am still positive I could get away playing it live and no one would complain.
I can get this tone easy out of a spider. key things on the line 6 I feel people get lost on when searching AMP mods ect, ect, is the Noise gate and EQ. The noise gate on a lot of the pre set presence is set high. Heck even when you just turn the settings yourself it's high. One thing I noticed about gates is they do effect the little nuances in your playing if set high. It can give the illusion of a flat sound. But you turn it down about half of what it is and things start to pop out and set down. The sound becomes much more alive. But it seems like default settings on the spider are studio like (where your just tracking a rhythm that's choppy and you don't want noise in-between) But its not great for lively solos. In basic, turn it down. Then the EQ on these Is a tad more sensitive then most, and playing around with it changes things a lot. They seemed to sheer everything, so I just ussaly turn the high down mid up on any pre setting and it comes out nice. Theirs actually two AMP emulators on the each of the 8 that show. I forget which one, but the 5th one sounded great. and for leads and metal rythems stuff, the 15th out of the 16 is mean. The harmony sounds are pretty dang good for a all in one set up. I think if your Rec demos that are on the edge and you need a lot of odd places to go, the effects you get are pretty cool. Its a tough amp to describe, but vary cool if you know what your doing. I have nothing against guys just ussing tubes and 2 settings like the 70s. But we're getting to a point to embrace odd, and changes, and see where kids can push it. Guys like Joe S & Vai are ussing stuff on PCs for tone post amp. I think Joe has even used everything without a amp at all on a few of his last records. Mainly that sheer top end and Gate out of box is what throw people off. But you can change those easy and grab some tone. I kind of like them to be honest.
Also like one said, the delays and stuff have their own EQs, so you can dial it it in. If you own one just save those presents. Your presents once learned will sound 10 times better then the pre set ones.
+BlueTransAm83 Pre sets I meant, ugh auto spell check blows on Android sorry.
wow..... that was a lot of typing about an amp thats only good for setting on fire for shitz n giggles.
go buy a real amp!
Thanks,@BlueTransAm83,fyi, I drove a blue 81🤘 trans am..I just got one of these amps to use for practice and mostly doing recording parts for writing with people, for projects, etc ... I've never had anything but Marshall heads, and 412s with vintage 30 Celestion speakers so this is a change to me big time .. Although I just bought a5150 cab to go with a good tube head shortly, this Lil spider is all I have right now and I'm enjoying adjusting for tones
This Amp is fantastic for sure..
Jeff is insane holy shit
I have this exact amp and I love it! I get the tones I want and the Celestian 12" is great sounding.
Proof that it's not in the name on the amp, it's the player that makes the sound!
I use a Kramer Striker II and I get those lead tones and more...all day long!
I'd bet most people who knock Line 6 products haven't spent any or very little time with one. Great products. Even in this vid, if you think it sounds thin, maybe he likes this tone and set the amp that way. Fairly certain he knows his way around setting an amp up any way he pleases. Great vid. Great products.
hd500 awesome, but i'd never use it live. nor any solid state emulation amp. but like i said in a live performance setting. just my opinion though.
TheDrjodi *cough* axe fxII
I have a Line 6 spider 4 150 and it sounds incredible, the effects are great, there are many features to use, used to play a Carvin SX200 and this sounds really good, Rocks the house
Jeff loomis could shred on a wet paper bag using a paperclip and it would prob still aound incredible....
I had already forgotten how much I love this man.
1:32 beware of epilepsi
I don't work for Line 6, but I sure as hell wish I did. After watching this video, I went out and bought the Spider IV 75 Line 6 and used it in conjunction with my Guitar POD XT Live. This is where the magic of Line 6 products really happens. I'd never really considered either Line 6 amps or my POD to be anything spectacular--until I heard them operate, as the Gods of Line 6 intended, together as one unit. Achieved nearly identical tone with an Omen Active 7 and an ESP LTD. Thank you Line 6!
almost had a seizure at 1:32. Line 6 has no chill.
it`s probably their revenge cuz they already knew what comments would pop out in this video xDD
As an owner of three different Spider amps, a II, a III, and now a IV, I can say these amps are great for what they are. They're great for bedroom practice and jamming with buddies even can hold their own over a drummer with enough wattage. However, I've recently picked up a 50w 5150 III head and I can honestly tell you... there's nothing like the warmth of pure valve tone. That being said, I think I'm keeping my little Spider III as my practice amp forever!
Dude thank you for just playing the line 6 amp and not yapping about its capability. All I wanted to hear.
that lick @ 3:18-3:20ish harmonically hit extra hard, how can you not feel that in the chest or face, still.
1:32 Line6, please stop.
+gromby Bit of a comment steal, that one? Zesty said exactly the same, but 10 months earlier.
+Gordon Heaney
It is the same comment, but edited for properness. I would have simply upvoted it, but I do not want to support poor english.
yeah, I had to look away from the screen at that point.
Fuck off Gordon, this is RUclips. I didn't realize each comment was patented and unique.
WOW NOW I AM CONFUSED
thank you jeff for your post an all work hard support you
Which setting is the "Can of bee's"?
Follow up, do you have to load the bee's in yourself and if so was it difficult?
yes and now after that video iwill going to buy this amp
It has a great mix of Friedman and Malmsteen to it.
I like it.
the main melody randomly popped into my head yesterday and i just had to hear it again lol jeff loomis is fucking awesome
The funny part about this old video is if Jeff had been playing some soon to be released Hughes and Kettner "Blade Burner" or Bogner "Neptune," the vast majority would have been chiming in about how phenomenal his new amp sounded. Guitarists are only exceeded by golfers in how full of bullshit they can be. "Hey dude, check out my new $499 driver that I crank 325 yards into the f'ng trees" Good carpenters don't blame their tools. A decent amp can sound great when the guitarist IS great.
except its not a decent amp unless it being played at 3 watts.... not 75 which it is "rated" for
James Morrison. I don't think L6 markets the Spider series as anything but a practice or small gig amp. In that regard, they serve their purpose well enough as Jeff illustrates here.
Maxx61 too bad this isn’t a decent amp lol
Loomis is a brilliant guitar player and no more needs to said. His solo stuff is awesome.
Damn. That was good! For all you Spider haters out there- it did the job well!
I own a Spider IV 75 watt and agree that this amp can really rock. I find the red metal amp model sounds similar to the third Ramones album and the green insane model captures the flavour of the second album. I cranked it to 10 recently and the sound did not seem broken up (but it almost flattened the house on account of the sheer volume).
Loomis @ 1:28: What's that? Epilepsy?...... *Problem?* "trollface.jpg" -_____-
20 years of playing/listening, The best I've heard so far considering all aspects of aesthetics 🤐😊✌👌🤘💟
If someone told me this was written by the Amott brothers 15 years ago, I wouldn't even blink. Jeff has to have been the most natural fit for Arch Enemy physically possible
Arch Enemy!!! 🤘
8 years later, still sounding fantastic! Now if you would try that on a kemper, it would blow this into another dimension!
Lmao at the people saying that the tone is only in the players hands. This tone is clearly shit and this song sounded 1000 times better thru the engl powerball.
Engl savage**
I can't even argue
You seem like an expert on tone so I have to ask, is this video mono or stereo?
It's clearly a stereo.
absolutely it sounded better... this is nothing on his studio tones or hell even the emg promo vids he did sounded leaps and bounds better than this tone, although i must say this is probably one of best tones this amp has ever produced... jeff is obviously a massive part of this but still, the spider amp is trash...
Nice! Good to see someone in the new metal genre play with feeling and not just flash.
I thought the high end was a little thin or buzzy sounding. I know it's not his playing. It could be the amp or the way they recorded it. Line 6 has come along way though.
I thought the same thing. High end sounds thin.
Dude is kicking ass!
I dont believe that it was recorded with a line 6 spider sounds the same as the original record i mean THE SAME
***** Haha!
No you can even download this tone from Line6's website. And yea, with emgs and some volume you get pretty much the same sound...
No it does not..... It sounds very true to the spider sound. Which is not very good. It is good enough for a beginner though.
AD M Of course it was. Line 6 amps are decent, but people like to bash on them because it's 'cool' to do so. They heard some loud opinionated people talk shit on them and they just agree blindly. Unforunately some people's first impression of an amp will be a video of some teenager playing badly, with poor phone cam mic audio. Most people who insult cheap amps/guitars have never even played them to know for themselves what they are like. As a practice amp / gigging amp then the big Line 6's are a good choice if you have a small budget.
I owned a Line 6 spider 2, for about 7 years. It really is terrible sounding. It is ok for a beginner (which I was at the time), but eventually you will want to buy a much better amp.
That's why I stopped tone chasing, and just decided on my own tone. I like the way it sounds, so I'm happy. You can never nail another person's tone, no matter how hard you try, even if you completely replicate their rig.
1:51....someone's been listening to Yngwie
He always admits it
Just goes to show, it’s all in the hands, rarely matters what amp/gear you’re using. People hate on Line 6 so much, I’m sorry, if you know how to dial in a amplifier and you can’t afford a Revv Generator or Mesa Boogie mark V or II + etc. not everyone has 10k to buy a badass tube head and cabinet along with a custom shop guitar. I’m 52 and have owned Rectos, Knuckleheads and 5150 amps, had to sell most of my gear for reasons unforeseen. I’m currently recording with a Spider 4 150 HD and it’s getting the job done (boosting manual recto channel with a Mesa flux five overdrive lol) great musician Jeff Loomis is, and seems like a good dude too.
am I the only one that came because of the never ending comments about how bad the line 6 Spider is for metal?
That's exactly why I clicked haha. I think the only reason it sounds remotely good is a bunch of back end editing. Line 6 sounds (to quote Glenn Fricker) like fried assholes hahaha
I owned this amp and I didn't care for it at all. I bought a Vox VT40+ shortly after, which is loads better for less.
Patrick Interiano depends what you mate it to ... that guitar he has mates well
I have this amp and it slays...
.... LOL, right.
i once owned this amp, it does everything except slay bud.
i download this video on mp3, and it sounds like a studio recording, can't believe he play it live, you go god!
1:32 and 4:32
Ahh yep, I’m gonna need a Tylenol pill now!
@MatKiller1197 Yes, once you get your Spider IV 75, just go to line6 (dot) com /customtone and you can download this tone. Thanks! Merry Christmas.
He looks like he escaped from a viking village using a time machine. xD Bad ass son of bitch!
Whatever Jeff Loomis touches instantly sounds good.
i don't hear the "bad" tone everyone else does.
I agree......and I own three of them😉
I own Spider V 240 head + cab and it rips your face off and tears the walls down in a good way when you know how to dial in proper tone. Have been playing metal for 30 years and also own various tube amps so i got proper reference. I disagree with all the haters saying Spiders suck for playing metal. But i guess it is popular to hate on Line6 and Spiders. Doesn’t hurt my feelings. Jeff is doing a masterful job here shredding on the Spider 😎
Its dumb, you can dial in an amazing British tone and metal tones on this idk why everyone hates it
@@cuffedpans cause people are sheep and they follow whatever trend is popular because they're desperate to fit in. people do these mental gymnastics to cope with their own expensive retarded purchases
Wow this is awesome, I hope you guys come out with more metal artists presets like these
1:32 .....
thinking of getting one for the garage!!
Never knew why it was trendy on the internet to say these amps suck. 🤔🤷♂️
I tell you what I have a POD xt which is pretty old and it was good but still had that "digital" sound but I recently bought this amp and couldnt believe how far modeling amps have came. I love my 75w Spider.
You have to play around with the controls to get this tone with direct imput but YES you can get it :) I have this tone effortlessly from my Spider IV 120w- it took me time to get the perfect tone, and here's a tip - only clean channel red and metal channel red are usable. the rest is utter garbage. Your guitar is also a big factor - you won't get this tone on a fucking squier, you need some nice Seymor JB or EMG-s for this.
Also, different tuning MUCH different settings. On D standars for instance my settings are - gain 6/10 , bass 4/10 middle 5/10 trebble 9/10 ... thats with Seymor duncan JB pickup. When i use my PRS guitar with custom pickups that have less gain i have to add some gain and mids to the amp to get similar tone... You can't expect the amp to do all the work for your ass.
***** insane green is best imo for my 75. red metal is up there too, red insane is more a pantera sound.
Zesty i simply can't dial those high gain channels right xD
***** I usually go high treble, about 1 o'clock bass, and you can either choke the mids at about 8 o'clock or boost them up to about 3 o'clock. on Insane green that is. Drive is up to your pups
Zesty i guess the green channel just has too much drive and compression for my taste. i go like 5-6 oçlock drive on my red metal channel and it's more then enough with Seymors or EMG 81
Zesty Yeah but your tone SUCKS, SUCKS, like, you have better model than mine, and my tone is better than yours you dirty animal.
Wow, never even heard of this dude. I got my Line 6 120 yesterday and was just dinking around with line 6 videos. This dude really does shred. I've been practicing Holy Wars(Mustaine) he rips too. LOL BTW the amp sounds great, the reason this video sounds so amazing. Is the microphone they used to record the actual you tube video. That turns your average video's into video's that impress for 100 dollars( price of a decent mic) all your vids will sounds better too. Probably not like this guys. But you get the point.
That, mixing, mastering, and EQ.
all the line 6 haters watch this !
Its the player, not the amp. Line 6 is shit
+Scott McKinstry with that logic, every player who bashes line six sucks at playing guitar. No amp will make them sound good.
LISTEN UP! No amp will make anyone sound good. Its an amplifier, if you play like a god it will amplify it. If you play like shit, it will amplify it. Its all about how you play.
But historically, Line 6 amplifiers tend to send flat and not very good. Maybe they've gotten better.
+Scott McKinstry The new Pods and the Helix are actually quite good.
this is true... albeit they still have the line 6 fizz, but they are FAR better than ever before... even the pod xt was huge step up from the pod, and the hds are a huge step ahead of the prior units and so on and so forth... soon emulation will be identical to a tube model, its bound to happen.
I love the haters, just so many tone snobs who have never even tried to used a line 6 product because it doesnt cost enough or isnt a studio product. the tone options for this little amp are pretty good and if you played guitar well, they sound like they are supposed to.
Surprise surprise. This rhythm tones out of this thing are only a couple levels above amplified farting. Very shrill highs. As always though, Jeff Loomis is an amazing player.
But seriously.. The iPad apps sound better.
Well if those are some shitty emg active pickups it would explain the shit digital sound.
True. I swapped my EMG 707s for DiMarzio Titans recently and have no regrets. The EMG pickups have such a high output it's ridiculous.
except jeff loomis did play emgs until he recently swapped into duncans, and his emg tone with his engls was killer.... the pickups have NOTHING to do with this tone dude... his new duncans would sound almost identical... its the amp man
the pickups may sculpt a bit of tone but his pickups have always been high output, so emg or his now used duncans the tonal differences would be nigh...
I owned a Spider 2 75 watt head and recently acquired a IV 150 head. I also own a couple custom tube amps, such as a rack mount Bassman and modded champ, and also a Digitech GSP1101. You will never get classic tube tones with the spider series (can't speak for the valve ones), but they do produce very useable tones that IMO are just as great as any tube amp, and that no tube amp will ever produce. The Metal and Insane channels are where these amps really come into their own light. But if you're trying to go for a blues breaker tone or something of that nature, you are not going to get it here.
or...a great player can make a shitty amp sound shitty. its still a line 6. just because its jeff loomis doesent mean it sounds amazing....
@Joaquinololas "Beefy" is kind of subjective but remember this is a 6 1/2" speaker so getting really full thick sounds can be challenging. Once you get an amp with bigger speakers you'll start to see that your sound will get much more full.
Hello! What have you been smoking? The amp comes with a 12" Celestion speaker!
I refuse to believe he's playing through that amp, there's no way a spider could ever sound that good on its own. I think it's interesting that they didn't show the entire amp, possibly because I doubt the fucking thing is even miked up.
***** I own the amp, it's a piece of shit, I can squeeze one usable sound out of it, I've done more than audition it, I've had to live with it for years.
***** The bass is muddy and nasty. The mids are barely existent. The high's are pretty much non existant up until like 1 o clock and then anywhere after that is far too much, and the gain, oh god the gain.
I'll give line 6 spiders their due on the cleans and the effects, but for a metal tone on the cheap I couldn't think of a worse amp.
***** And if you turn the volume up anywhere near enough to compete with a drummer it's just disgusting.
***** I'm not sure the actual model they are since they came with the guitar but they're some type of wilkinson passive's into a les paul copy, it actually sounds great for a pretty cheap guitar, but I'm guessing they skimped on the frets and tuners and that's why everything else sounds and feels great.
***** I've just given up on the line 6, I got a HT-5 a couple months ago and I'm never looking back.
great sound-looper great leads !!!!!!
That tone is pretty fucking terrible.
+BestUsernameIGot It is amp for complete beginners. You can't expect much.
I own a Spider myself, and there's not a blind test in the world that would convince me that it's a good amp. It's an older type and I checked out this video to see if the Spiders have gotten better over time, but nope. Total crap. Especially weird since digital amp sims have gotten so good in the past few years.
+BestUsernameIGot I think the fact is this video here demonstrates that... should be enough to settle this quick. If Jeff Loomis can't make an amp that's made for (EMG) metal shredding sound good... then I think there may be a problem with the tone.
+BestUsernameIGot . i own and still gig and record with, an original spider 212 combo (the red face panel ones) and in all the years i've had it, everyone that hears it, including other guitarists, rave about how good it sounds..it's been a workhorse since i bought it back in 2000..but like anything that's manufactured, maybe you just got a bad one..it happens..
baileyvillewyldeman I've played and heard many Spiders throughout the years, not just mine, and they all sound bad.
@Ethan314159 Yes, and by doing so it adds a volume boost to the signal, which in turn will add more drive (even if it is a solid state amp). Also, there are about 3-4 different tube screamer models these days, most of them are actually just overdrive pedals which emulate the effect of a tube screamer.
I own that particular amp and yes you absolutely can get that sound out of it, most of the people complaining never look past the presents that come with it (which are absolute crap)
And by the way I do think that a tube amp would sound even better, they usually do and given the chance I'd switch to an Engl Fireball in a heartbeat. However for what this amp goes for, you can't get a better sounding amp tubes or no tubes.
I'm just going to quote Ola Englund here
"Line6 Spider amps are amps that are supposed to be cheap entry level stuff. For that they are awesome, for someone starting out playing guitar they are perfect. You don't have to shell out a lot of money and they sound ok.
It's when people think that they will get a sound that competes with +500€ amps that they get bad rep. Just don't expect to get more than what you pay for."
@Hertsman50 Plug the pedal into the guitar input on your Spider. I'd start by dialing the gain on the pedal way back and just focusing on your crunch tone on the amp first. Then you can gradually bring the gain up on the pedal to fine tune it. You can also try using a Clean amp model on the Spider and then using the pedal itself for most of your crunch tones.
Please keep in mind that modeling amplifiers will require you to understanding the amps functions and tweaking to get full use out of it to find that perfect tone your looking for...another factor to take in is that although this amp may be a great or not it's all about the player and equipment your sending thru the amp..in this case you have a very well disciplined guitarist who is also using a kickass sounding guitar with amazing action and pickups...just keep that in mind please
I love the highs of the Spider.
***** Exactly! The ones that penetrate the inner ear and destroys it permanently!
+Remmy 315 lol yup! These are good for beginners wanting heavy shitty tones, but after a few years many do dump these into Craigslist.
emilio olivas Now we are talking!
Line 6 will never know just how much I love my Spider IV 75.
i actually bought one 3 days ago aha, im loving it
@Hertsman50 Your guitar for starters may be the issue. Keith typically uses single coil type pickups on his teles and strats. Try the Blues channels on your amp and bring the gain up a bit. If you have to go with humbuckers then try using the bridge position.
Nice love the riffs good for ya...
that solo tone is amazing
@fretzombie Thanks for sharing those with us. Great playing.
That tone!! :D
I so must get one of those amps
Love that Gary Holt V on the wall !!
Sick skills! Sounds awesome!
ya i have to say, i like that riff way more than the shred! that sounds great on the low string.
Back when I briefly had my Spider IV 15, I didn’t even bother checking if it contains a Variax interfacevlike the Pod HD and Helix models. Has it?
As others have said, I would not have noticed it was a Line 6 product if I didn’t read the title. It sounded like the Mesa Boogie line.
Ahhh I grew up with metal like that. Shit gives me chills!
I love his vibrato!
Hi everyone ! You've got to know that Line 6 spider IV amps (my 120w is) have a direct line out. I record with it for 3 years ago now and with a good mix on Logic Pro I've got a fuckin amazing result. Really much better than my Mesa Mini rectifier and his CabClone (this last one is bullshit). So enjoy those amps wich are extroadinary for the price ,)
@GuitarOOOFreak its also the emg pickups that give alot of the sound