@@WavyJayZ they could just play for fun, I don't think TMM even knows basic tech in smash so I mean, would the latency really change the outcome? no of course not, hes gonna get steamrolled eitherway, just fun to see kaz vs kaz part 2.
The reason riddles adapted so well throughout the set is that to compete at the top level of smash, you need to adapt to many different things like, lag(online era), matchups, stages, play styles, etc.
Im a smash player that hasn’t played a tekken game in his entire life (just by that you can already tell how good main man’s content is) so it’s safe to say I’m pretty excited for this
He does play other FG, mainly streetfighter, which is why he wasnt exactly hyped for kazuyas introduction but still looking forward to it, ended up being his favourite character. He played the other fgcs in smash prior to kazuya (ken and terry and he has a ryu)
surprisingly it's not that difficult for smash players specifically because movement is far and away the most important skill you have to develop to play smash competently. tekken is the only fighter aside from smash i've ever been decent at.
People asking TMM to lighten up need to understand Riddles is a top player granted they’re not playing smash but he’s still able to adapt at a higher pace and learns as he plays. Will he be better than TMM at the end of this set Hell no but he’ll be better than he was before they played.
@@AfroKing. nah respect VF, without VF you will stilla be playing 2d FGs today(VF is the father of 3D FGs. it inspired other titles likes of Tekken, DoA to be in 3d) learn a little of history of genre will ya
@@RUclipsrr285 he spent A LOT of time in his reaction to the reveal shitting all over Smash and saying that any adult who plays the game needs to “grow up and act your age.” He’s since changed his opinion and now holds Smash in good regard, but he absolutely disliked what he saw of it initially
For 140hrs put in he was doing quite well against harden veteran, TMM. Here's hoping he continues to play Tekken, i can see him doing quite well in it.
This was the video I was waiting for. Good stuff. But it would certainly be interesting to see some Riddles vs TMM Kazuya dittos in Smash. See if TMM can catch on to Smash's style over the duration.
It's always weird to see youtubers beating others with "similarities" like for example valorant players against csgo players in valorant but you never see the counterpart. I hope TMM plays smash with him tho.
That Kazuya cosplay in the Thumbnail thooo💖 And I wanted to be the Kazuya master in smash dammit but the way my money set up I haven’t been able to buy a damn switch yet lolol 😭😭😭
you can see here he has the movement but thats kinda it...not to be meant in a bad way...but still^^.. now he has to focus on attack and defense and hes fine
Is Kazuya devil transformation the best character in the game? Like let's just say he was like devil jin and playable on his own with max hp and could have rage etc, would he be the best?
Yeah he would be, the thing about kazuya is that he has one of the very best rage drives in the game so people don’t usually go for devil because as good as the transformation is the other options with rage are also really good
the fact that he would now get a mid electric along with his hellsweep on a full character would be so strong because now you cant duck the electrics, ducking is the only weakness of electrics in tekken 7. he has possibly the best move in the game (mid electric) along with heavens gate. so now you either get launched for huge damage by mid electrics or insane damage just from a hellsweep to heavens gate.
@@daxia0 whike a mid electric is good, the normal electric is better. High but plus on block. It's used mostly as a whiff punisher so the fact it's mid isn't that big of a deal. It's already very very hard to sidestep. High +on block electric beats the mid version
It's interesting seeing how little in common smash has with Tekken. Like, this dude is a stellar Kazuya and "FG" Smash character specialist, yet he still has trouble adjusting. The transition to Tekken is always steep from other games, but I guess smash is even less related to Tekken than other games.
I still have nightmares about waking up pressing 3 every time I get knocked down because in SC 3 is actually guard and waking up holding guard is the safe option. Just wake up into immediately counterhit launched every round.
@@TLPSh0ckW4ve I was the same years ago, I was highly ranked mkx and mk11(in the beginning of it) and I was terrible at tekken, its been years since then and now I'm a good tekken player but its taken literal years of practice and time to adjust. But I regret nothing, it was the best decision I ever made and I wish I had switched sooner tbh, its tekken for life now lol
I'd actually like to see tmm playing his Kazuya in omega ranks for once, whenever he streams he mostly plays sub characters in ranked and does tournaments with low ranked players
Because we get tired of playing our mains 25/8, its fun to branch out and play other characters. Makes you a better player overall too. He does it for the love of game hes not interested in competing. I relate to that
@@chad9408 Smash is an entirely different game lol. You can't play Kazuya in Smash as you would in Tekken, obviously. That being said, good luck picking him up "in a few seconds."
@@chad9408 Not in a few seconds, but it definitely makes him easier to learn. I wish T7 Kaz was like Smash Kaz though, where he's good enough that ppl think he's broken lmao
This was mad boring bro. So one sided. I love your videos and still found a bit of entertainment from this one even tho you whooped him every match with no real competition
This is why I'm reluctant to call smash a fighting game. Not saying it isn't, but it is clear as day that Smash is a very easy game. Sure there are things about the game that make it complex, but for the most part...it's very simple. No hate to Riddles ofc, Ik he's a very good smash player, but I'm going to assume that if another pro smash player tried Tekken, it would be similar to his performance, but to give him the benefit of the doubt...he is playing Kazuya, so I don't blame him. Ik people are gonna ratio me so hard for saying this...
You're reluctant to call Smash a fighting game because a Smash player lost in Tekken to someone who's been playing high level Tekken for over 20 years... this might be the stupidest comment I've read this year
now u have to play him in smash
Yes thats a must
He can’t even play casually… so I agree
It's a shame that Smash's online makes Tekken look like it has rollback
I've never played smash so I have no idea what are h guys talking about xD
@@ThatGuyCalledSteeve Why do people say Tekken doesn't have rollback still?
Would be cool to also see this match the other way around, with TMM vs Riddles in Smash, Kazuya vs Kazuya
Unfortunately with ultimate online it's almost impossible
I was expecting that, it better happen!
the awful netcode in smash makes it not worth even doing internationally.
@@WavyJayZ they could just play for fun, I don't think TMM even knows basic tech in smash so I mean, would the latency really change the outcome? no of course not, hes gonna get steamrolled eitherway, just fun to see kaz vs kaz part 2.
@@songoku2711 I have smash ultimate, had it since release, the online is trash.
3:00 you killed me TMM🤣🤣
I came to the comments for this 😂
Healthy shit talking ❤️
I was actually dying, the face, the voice, the words, hilaious lmao
The reason riddles adapted so well throughout the set is that to compete at the top level of smash, you need to adapt to many different things like, lag(online era), matchups, stages, play styles, etc.
Same applies to Tekken 👍
hello brother@@KyeCreates
@@Chaoblahippo hello!
5:17 , that one didnt age so well
I was gonna say that...
and this didnt age well either lol
no, your comment didnt aged well 😜
take another look lol
Im a smash player that hasn’t played a tekken game in his entire life (just by that you can already tell how good main man’s content is) so it’s safe to say I’m pretty excited for this
TMM really needs to react to Riddles winning his first major at The Big House with only Kazuya in Top 8.
Yeah
Dude has good movement, which is probably the hardest thing to pick up in Tekken coming from other FGs.
He does play other FG, mainly streetfighter, which is why he wasnt exactly hyped for kazuyas introduction but still looking forward to it, ended up being his favourite character. He played the other fgcs in smash prior to kazuya (ken and terry and he has a ryu)
surprisingly it's not that difficult for smash players specifically because movement is far and away the most important skill you have to develop to play smash competently. tekken is the only fighter aside from smash i've ever been decent at.
Smash is not a FG dude
@@6_0u_54n this is a bad take
@@Grumza The true bad take is to say Smash is a fighting game, even TMM will tell you XD
12:40 Based TMM
People asking TMM to lighten up need to understand Riddles is a top player granted they’re not playing smash but he’s still able to adapt at a higher pace and learns as he plays. Will he be better than TMM at the end of this set Hell no but he’ll be better than he was before they played.
I love how respectful Tmm is of everyone truely a professional
He trashed Virtua Fighter and the community in multiple videos for no reason. I wouldn't go that far lol
@@mikeg4490 honestly, who cares about VF at this point
@@AfroKing. hahah fucken rip XD
@@AfroKing. nah respect VF, without VF you will stilla be playing 2d FGs today(VF is the father of 3D
FGs. it inspired other titles likes of Tekken, DoA to be in 3d) learn a little of history of genre will ya
@@殺意の波動に目覚めたリュウ Like I said, who cares?
Riddles plays Tekken Kazuya like he playing Smash.
that's cause he's only been playin tekken 7 for 27 weeks casually at the time of recording
As a Smash player.
It's unreal how far MainMan went from disliking the introduction to collaborating to one of the best smash players
"as a smash player" adds literally nothing to this comment.
“As a Armor King player”, you’re right😂😂 ^^
He didn’t dislike it though
as a hwoarang main, you're correct
@@RUclipsrr285 he spent A LOT of time in his reaction to the reveal shitting all over Smash and saying that any adult who plays the game needs to “grow up and act your age.” He’s since changed his opinion and now holds Smash in good regard, but he absolutely disliked what he saw of it initially
For 140hrs put in he was doing quite well against harden veteran, TMM. Here's hoping he continues to play Tekken, i can see him doing quite well in it.
I’d love to see him play in smash too!! I feel like Riddles could teach him a thing or two pretty fast!
This is the sickest collab ever made on the internet.
This was the video I was waiting for. Good stuff.
But it would certainly be interesting to see some Riddles vs TMM Kazuya dittos in Smash. See if TMM can catch on to Smash's style over the duration.
When I first saw the thumbnail, I thought these guys were having a fistfight
It's always weird to see youtubers beating others with "similarities" like for example valorant players against csgo players in valorant but you never see the counterpart. I hope TMM plays smash with him tho.
'Go back to Smash fuckin Trash' cracked me up xD
WP to Riddles too
Now in Smash Kaz vs Kaz
how tf did he get so good so fast
He is downloading
you know what this means
time to do a stream of dead ringer, spycicle mirror match
after the demoman pipe duel with stock nade launcher
wtf tf2 in mainman comments what is this crossover
"What would Bowser say"
been waiting to see this match up for a long time
Hope riddles brings a thing or two to his smash tourneys with kazuya from playing tekken especially playing with tmm.
My man was not sugarcoating it whatsoever
Gotta play him in smash bro. I’m a scrub but fair is fair
That Kazuya cosplay in the Thumbnail thooo💖
And I wanted to be the Kazuya master in smash dammit but the way my money set up I haven’t been able to buy a damn switch yet lolol 😭😭😭
Sick video from a Riddles and MainMan viewer
Yoooo amazing!
awesome you should know how much he really love you Good matches TBH
you can see here he has the movement but thats kinda it...not to be meant in a bad way...but still^^.. now he has to focus on attack and defense and hes fine
I wonder if TMM can get Elite Smash in two weeks 😈
@TokyoFool yet I have several friends who never made it
@The tricky tick facts...it's very easy to get into very easy to demote out of. it depends on how wacky the game is feeling that day
Such invaluable training.
Is Kazuya devil transformation the best character in the game? Like let's just say he was like devil jin and playable on his own with max hp and could have rage etc, would he be the best?
Yeah he would be, the thing about kazuya is that he has one of the very best rage drives in the game so people don’t usually go for devil because as good as the transformation is the other options with rage are also really good
in tekken 7? i think akuma would still be the best but devil kazuya is pretty damn good, he is a monster, thats a great question i never thought about
the fact that he would now get a mid electric along with his hellsweep on a full character would be so strong because now you cant duck the electrics, ducking is the only weakness of electrics in tekken 7. he has possibly the best move in the game (mid electric) along with heavens gate. so now you either get launched for huge damage by mid electrics or insane damage just from a hellsweep to heavens gate.
@@daxia0 whike a mid electric is good, the normal electric is better. High but plus on block. It's used mostly as a whiff punisher so the fact it's mid isn't that big of a deal. It's already very very hard to sidestep. High +on block electric beats the mid version
Nah, Devil Kaz is kinda broken, but Akuma breaks the rules of the whole game with his meter. DK would be top 3 tho.
That’s cool as hell
Dude, shit like this is why I'm always watching ur content. Thanks a mil 🤘
TMM: This is riddles and he's the best kazuya player, in smash
Riddles: And I took that personally
Have you done reactions to Riddles Kazuya plays in Smash yet?
many
Search tmm riddles and you'll find a few
Someone please tell me the songs during 9:06 and 17:28
Tekken 4 building rooftop stage
"Authentic Sky" from Tekken 4
Tekken 4 airport
"Kitsch" from Tekken 4
Authentic sky- Tekken 4, one of my favourite gaming Soundtracks of all time
It's interesting seeing how little in common smash has with Tekken. Like, this dude is a stellar Kazuya and "FG" Smash character specialist, yet he still has trouble adjusting. The transition to Tekken is always steep from other games, but I guess smash is even less related to Tekken than other games.
I still have nightmares about waking up pressing 3 every time I get knocked down because in SC 3 is actually guard and waking up holding guard is the safe option.
Just wake up into immediately counterhit launched every round.
I came from MK and it was a goddamn nightmare ngl lol, I had never even played a 3D fighting game lol
@@Section8dc i was really good in mk but i suck so hard in tekken
@@TLPSh0ckW4ve I was the same years ago, I was highly ranked mkx and mk11(in the beginning of it) and I was terrible at tekken, its been years since then and now I'm a good tekken player but its taken literal years of practice and time to adjust. But I regret nothing, it was the best decision I ever made and I wish I had switched sooner tbh, its tekken for life now lol
It's because Tekken has one of the steepest learning curves out of all fighting games.
8:53 DORYEA!
Riddles just won his first super major, let's fucking go Riddles!!!!
Unfortunately it's smash and no one cares 🤣
@@madanalym4165 Fortunately Riddles has hundreds of thousands of fans including Mainman who care.
If no one cared, this video wouldn't exist.
NO MERCY, apparently
I'd actually like to see tmm playing his Kazuya in omega ranks for once, whenever he streams he mostly plays sub characters in ranked and does tournaments with low ranked players
Because we get tired of playing our mains 25/8, its fun to branch out and play other characters. Makes you a better player overall too. He does it for the love of game hes not interested in competing. I relate to that
8:20 There's scam bots everywhere on youtube these days
Need to see y’all play in smash now
How is Geese in Tekken but not terry?
tekken embraces the villains
The only thing that carries to tekken from smash a little bit are the inputs lol
How do you parry in tekken? New, just picked the game up.
Parries are moves specific characters have, often back 1+2 or 1+3
Most lows can be parried by every char with a timed d/f input. Some chars have unique parries for highs, mids and lows. You can easily search them up
Thanks guys, I appreciate it
now where is heihachi in tekken 8 tho
there he is
Now you have to fight him in Smash.
So you gonna play him in smash right?
before i watch this video: ... uhh are you sure he actually plays tekken 7?
edit: oh dang...... his ranks are better than my rank
TMM why you always duck, but never punish 124 with a launch?
r u new to tekken
@@thehunterwr4666 don't speak to me, child
@@ragasanov "don't speak to me child" -🤓🤡
It has a mid follow up with 3 that is a launcher. He'd have to parry the 4.
124 is -14, ws12 is 13 frames, it launches faster than his opponent can press 3
Scam bots put fake check marks in their names like this ✔️
TMM playing smash when
Imagine if Heihachi eased up on Jin Kazama. He'd be a pathetic loser instead of the Champ and he probably wouldn't have killed ogre.
Are you insinuating TMM is Heihachi and Riddles is Kaz? Lmaoo thats pretty funny
15:15
Smash vs tekken way different takes way more time to get good at tekken lol
what is masku?
mask in japanese
Kazuya says "masaka" in some of his intros and TMM heard wrong and butchered it. "Masku" is basically TMM's iconic quote now lol
After done playing with him play tea from smash
Smash time
Is Riddles Korean?
riddles learned the masku way
Poor riddles on three bars
Lol 😂 tmm 2 perfects in a row why you do that to him man
React to boa luvb vs JDCR top 8 losers
リドレス16段なのか
😐
I'ma very talented fighting game player. I can play both tekken and smash ,just as good as riddle.
nice keep it up
Ping issues
Does Kazuya have the same move set in smash? as Tekken. Sorry, i don't play kids games.
Smash Kazuya is ez af to use, if you play Tekken, you can pick up Smash Kazuya in a few seconds
Smash is way more fast paced. Definitely not easier to pick up
@@chad9408 Smash is an entirely different game lol. You can't play Kazuya in Smash as you would in Tekken, obviously. That being said, good luck picking him up "in a few seconds."
@@chad9408 yeah no this is just not true
@@chad9408 Not in a few seconds, but it definitely makes him easier to learn.
I wish T7 Kaz was like Smash Kaz though, where he's good enough that ppl think he's broken lmao
This was mad boring bro. So one sided. I love your videos and still found a bit of entertainment from this one even tho you whooped him every match with no real competition
Huh
Heeeeey
This is why I'm reluctant to call smash a fighting game. Not saying it isn't, but it is clear as day that Smash is a very easy game. Sure there are things about the game that make it complex, but for the most part...it's very simple. No hate to Riddles ofc, Ik he's a very good smash player, but I'm going to assume that if another pro smash player tried Tekken, it would be similar to his performance, but to give him the benefit of the doubt...he is playing Kazuya, so I don't blame him. Ik people are gonna ratio me so hard for saying this...
Yes, Smash is easy, but I imagine fgc players picking up smash, and getting 3/4 stocked lol
So, they are fundamentally different
You're reluctant to call Smash a fighting game because a Smash player lost in Tekken to someone who's been playing high level Tekken for over 20 years... this might be the stupidest comment I've read this year
new copypasta
Lol smash may be easy to start off but it ain’t easy to get good enough to win competitively. Give it a try
nahhhh richter nahhh
1st
YOOOOOOO
Riddles' kazuya cosplay is the UOAT (ugliest of all time)
Which song is playing during the first match? I don’t remember….
This gay looking in Thumbnail is very funny 😂😂😂😂😂
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