Thank you for how much you do to give back to the community Hera! And also, stop doing so much for the community because I see people quick walling and hitting perfect castle age times at 900 ELO and I don’t even get how they’re still down here
@@SirQuantizationTrue. It’s generally better to be slower to age but better at strategy. It doesn’t matter if you have the 100% perfect fast castle build order if you don’t know what you’re going to do with said fast castle.
After seeing Mr Planner / Mr Slow games, I came back to AoE2 from a 3 month detox... and I kind of feel there's less of that now. It used to be 1k would get perfect BOs and QuickWalls, which is insane for the level... and I ended up being slaughtered... but the last few games have been enjoyable, back and forth, LEL mistakes from both sides...
Thousands of games played that's how, same thing as when you watch ballet dancers and all their moves look effortlessly fluid even though they are hard as hell: they trained them for countless hours ! Hera is a dancer of AoE2, everything is fluid and looks easy but when you try you realise how hard it really is 😅
@packmanbp Partly agree but then again there's me with 1700 games played and I'm still 1200 elo 😭 and then you get players like ciskhan who jumps into the scene and gets 2300 elo like no big deal.
@@andrewtrujillo8792He probably had prior experience on another somehow similar game no? I think if the dude comes from Warcraft or Starcraft he only has to adapt his already existing skill to different variables 🤷 Also I'm in your camp man, don't have the time to play much but if I ever reach 1.2k it will be an accomplishment 😅
I really like how Hera explains what his focus is on when he's tabbing all over the map. Keeping maa attacking, checking defense, growing eco was a great example
The box formation and stand-ground tip for maa was a really valuable tip! I struggle a lot to pull of any drush or maa rush builds because it is so stressfull to properly control the militias while caring for eco. Thank you for these videos Hera!
Love this series! This video doesn’t reflect what I encounter at 1050 ELO in Western Europe. I often see opponents go for a 20 pop feudal, they lame, they scout with sheeps, push deer, even go maa sometimes.
around 1k elo is inconsistent beacuse its around starting elo, there is really underperforming and overperforming players, annd some of them are that elo because of one tricking
Thanks, as always! It would be good (as I said in a comment on your 1st video of the series) to check if your opponent was a solid 1000-1100 player, and not someone who is playing his first games. It felt again like he was not a consistent player on that ELO, but a newer one. And it is likely to happen since your account is brand new for the series. For example, no one on this level would let the MAA + scout be standing in their wood and not do something for so long (retreating or fighting, but something... He did nothing). It is obvious that it will stop happening as you climb the ladder, but lots of us are in this specific ELO range, and it would be awesome to watch you playing like this but with a consistent real 1000-1100 player, to actually learn with the real example. I noticed something similar in the 900-1000 video.
I just commented about this. Its true this dude has 1000 elo but only because it was literally one of his first matches ranked in his lifetime. Hera is not doing anything wrong he is just queeing up but because his acc is absolute fresh the elo doesnt know if hes actually a 1000k elo player so he also gets absolute fresh players and not every fresh acc is a smurf like.. well.. him 😅 so when you play at 1k elo and me where we both already have idk a couple 100 games its a "real" 1k elo match. At my level people know how to fish boom sometimes, how to lure boar, how to lure deer, how to wall, how to build towers to defend, they know they have to follow a build order, they know they need army early etc etc etc. Its not like 1k elo players are garbage and dont know anything about the game.. its just the game starts you there so sometimes people still need to find their elo
Great guide man, but I'm stuck at around 850 ELO haha. I just seem to get out macroed all the time or rushed when I'm trying to macro. It's hard getting it all together. I first played this game way back in the very early 2000s messing about with my little brother on LAN games and it's so different. I used to play SC2 pretty competitively back in the day reaching master league and I feel somewhat out of my depth in AoE2. So many different civs and bonuses to think about and even the resource management is much more complex. I'm sure I'll get there with the guidance you give in your videos, it's just gunna take some time.
I love this series (also loved the previous one). Last video I looked back through your Twitch vods to see the rest of the games as well. I couldn't find it this time though. I'm pretty much certain everyone at the ELO you're targetting would like more than one video covering the range. I feel the main take aways here are to learn a M@A build order and a general game plan for Goths that can work in the range. Which is nice, but a wider insight might be nice. I understand you might not want to clutter the main channel (though for sure I'll watch it wherever). But maybe be content for Hera - Gameplay? Thanks for all that you do for the community! 🙂
I think is worth mentioning that you should always keep your scout and your boar villager on Ctrl group, cause you want to have instant access to them in order to save them from any harm on dark age.
Hey Hera, I just come back to this video as I just won with your fantastic maa build against mongol scout rush in 1000 elo range. I won this game with awareness of what the opponent was doing, which is usually my weakness. Despite the win, I still feel like I have so much to still improve on. My strengths: build-orders are known and consequent (none of that low-elo-legend stuff!), economy is kept neatly, but I often lack sense of what teammates or opponents are doing. I use hotkeys for almost everything, except grouping military units. Do you think the latter is super important to improve?
Just curious, stand-ground stance for the man at arms rush makes sense, but what about defensive stance when you're checking on other stuff? Wouldn't you get the benefit of not chasing vils under a TC, and not standing idle if attacked?
if i had been your rival i would have thought, how does he manage to defend and atack at the same time, not realising he was also running the eco while not breaking a sweat
I wish my 900-1100 elo games were this chill 😂 your enemy had like idk maybe 2 games overall lol. When I try man at arms around 1000 elo and 250h ingame time they already have army themselves, they know how to build a tower, they know how to wall their units. I dont want to bash your enemy, like I said on other videos I am playing since Dec and hovering around 1000-1100 elo 50% winrate thanks to all the videos from you Viper Survivalist and Spirit of the Law if not even more aoe youtubers.
like another commentor said, people are crazy at this elo. Some people know FC to their absolute heart as Portuguese/Burgundians and completely overwhelm you as soon as 15min into the game.
This is different than the Men-at-Arms into Archers build you give in that beautiful document to your Twitch subscribers, which puts 4 on wood initially. New meta, or an optimization for Goths who can't collect food while researching Loom?
Looking for help. I go up with 19 pop M@A rush likewise but i always struggle getting my eco up and running. My opponent just walls makes an archer and gets faster castle. Contols map > siege forward maybe even castle drop..imps faster too. Any advice on when i reach feudal to retain map and strong eco welcome. Thanks.
I'm at 1050 but not sure why I struggle that much... I'm familiar with feudal age aggression but as soon as I develop to ~1080, I get crushed again lol
This disconnect was likely to a bug which emerged again after seemingly having been fixed. That dreaded "A running process may be interfering..." bug where that "other program" is actually your video card driver! There are plenty of forum discussions, no permanent solution. And it's soooo unpredictable. It happened to me at 40 minutes in a game. Fresh install, antivirus and firewall and other programs turned off. Maybe if some of the most famous players could pressure the devs to focus more on this.... otherwise players would leave in droves.
I gotta say I love this series and the previous ones. However, dont you think its better to do the lower level tutorials against an AI and without randoming a civ? In this one, for example, you went m@a even though almost no 1000 elo player can successfully do a m@a build and actually use the m@a correctly. opponents then DCed which had cut things short. I loved this video but it feels more messy and harder to learn from compared to your previous series.
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Well i guess that people who dislike a specific thing would be more vocal about it than people who like a specific thing, coz the latter would just say "i love this video thanks". But i see you did consider both options and the video is great nevertheless!
Absolutely appropriately named person called RagingBtch really did well spoiling the results of the tournament at 7:44. You love to see it. Completely spits on T90's efforts to keep the thumbnails and titles spoiler-free.
I often think the same when watching other players around my elo, because the players sometimes do stuff worse at which I am good for my elo, but I think one often overlooks one's own weeknesses. That being said I think you are right , because I think Hera might not have finished all his placement games for the road to 2k account the opponent's elo is a bit lower than Hera's (the opponent seems to have peaked around 1k and used to be around 950 elo)
when hera is smurfing in a video it's good, but when i play on a account where i only play Sicilians and try to learn donjon rush strats i got 2v2 instead of 1v1 and teammate called me a smurf bcs i played 10 games and griefied me with walling my town center so i resigned (reminder i didn't play aoe2 for couple weeks + i was on 1300 elo my main account is 1400-1500 i cant just start from 1500 elo ofc i need to win games to get my elo and it doesn't even take that long to gain elo on new account)
Maybe held back a bit to little, show how to do it right and then make small mistakes to show why it was important to do it right. This game was 1200+ because never lost control, and also opponent resigned mentally when could tell you control your game that much.
Thank you for how much you do to give back to the community Hera! And also, stop doing so much for the community because I see people quick walling and hitting perfect castle age times at 900 ELO and I don’t even get how they’re still down here
It's possible to be good at a build order and quick walling but have no understanding of the game!
@@SirQuantizationTrue. It’s generally better to be slower to age but better at strategy. It doesn’t matter if you have the 100% perfect fast castle build order if you don’t know what you’re going to do with said fast castle.
After seeing Mr Planner / Mr Slow games, I came back to AoE2 from a 3 month detox... and I kind of feel there's less of that now. It used to be 1k would get perfect BOs and QuickWalls, which is insane for the level... and I ended up being slaughtered... but the last few games have been enjoyable, back and forth, LEL mistakes from both sides...
I am at 800 elo and do a perfect dark age, strat and quick walling .. but that doesn't really matter since opponents play the same ..,
I feel that. I’m battling in 1100 Elo and guys are doing advanced shit LOL
I will never stop wondering how Hera makes it look so simple. Every time I think "oh yeah I can definitely do this" and then I can't 11
He’s playing so “slow” and it looks to easy. Then I get in there and it’s a million miles an hour. I have no idea how they do it.
Thousands of games played that's how, same thing as when you watch ballet dancers and all their moves look effortlessly fluid even though they are hard as hell: they trained them for countless hours !
Hera is a dancer of AoE2, everything is fluid and looks easy but when you try you realise how hard it really is 😅
@packmanbp Partly agree but then again there's me with 1700 games played and I'm still 1200 elo 😭 and then you get players like ciskhan who jumps into the scene and gets 2300 elo like no big deal.
@@andrewtrujillo8792He probably had prior experience on another somehow similar game no? I think if the dude comes from Warcraft or Starcraft he only has to adapt his already existing skill to different variables 🤷
Also I'm in your camp man, don't have the time to play much but if I ever reach 1.2k it will be an accomplishment 😅
@@packmanbpHe started playing this game as a kid. He’s pretty good at LoL
I really like how Hera explains what his focus is on when he's tabbing all over the map. Keeping maa attacking, checking defense, growing eco was a great example
The box formation and stand-ground tip for maa was a really valuable tip! I struggle a lot to pull of any drush or maa rush builds because it is so stressfull to properly control the militias while caring for eco. Thank you for these videos Hera!
Love this series! This video doesn’t reflect what I encounter at 1050 ELO in Western Europe. I often see opponents go for a 20 pop feudal, they lame, they scout with sheeps, push deer, even go maa sometimes.
don't forget tower rushes
Most players that elo stick to only one order or trick thats why they r stuck usually
around 1k elo is inconsistent beacuse its around starting elo, there is really underperforming and overperforming players, annd some of them are that elo because of one tricking
Indeed, my experience around 900-1000 is way tougher than this opponent
100% At 900 elo, I get all kinds of counters to counters, scout rushes, etc... But, you also get very new players who you just wipe the floor with.
Thanks, as always!
It would be good (as I said in a comment on your 1st video of the series) to check if your opponent was a solid 1000-1100 player, and not someone who is playing his first games.
It felt again like he was not a consistent player on that ELO, but a newer one. And it is likely to happen since your account is brand new for the series.
For example, no one on this level would let the MAA + scout be standing in their wood and not do something for so long (retreating or fighting, but something... He did nothing).
It is obvious that it will stop happening as you climb the ladder, but lots of us are in this specific ELO range, and it would be awesome to watch you playing like this but with a consistent real 1000-1100 player, to actually learn with the real example.
I noticed something similar in the 900-1000 video.
I just commented about this. Its true this dude has 1000 elo but only because it was literally one of his first matches ranked in his lifetime.
Hera is not doing anything wrong he is just queeing up but because his acc is absolute fresh the elo doesnt know if hes actually a 1000k elo player so he also gets absolute fresh players and not every fresh acc is a smurf like.. well.. him 😅 so when you play at 1k elo and me where we both already have idk a couple 100 games its a "real" 1k elo match.
At my level people know how to fish boom sometimes, how to lure boar, how to lure deer, how to wall, how to build towers to defend, they know they have to follow a build order, they know they need army early etc etc etc. Its not like 1k elo players are garbage and dont know anything about the game.. its just the game starts you there so sometimes people still need to find their elo
Greetings from Turkey, I love watching and learning
so best way to achieve 1100 elo is having 2k7 macro and unit control so everything runs smooth and then give up a few strategies. should be easy
This is the best video series. All hot key tips are appreciated!
Great guide man, but I'm stuck at around 850 ELO haha. I just seem to get out macroed all the time or rushed when I'm trying to macro. It's hard getting it all together. I first played this game way back in the very early 2000s messing about with my little brother on LAN games and it's so different. I used to play SC2 pretty competitively back in the day reaching master league and I feel somewhat out of my depth in AoE2. So many different civs and bonuses to think about and even the resource management is much more complex.
I'm sure I'll get there with the guidance you give in your videos, it's just gunna take some time.
Bro 🤝
I love this series (also loved the previous one). Last video I looked back through your Twitch vods to see the rest of the games as well. I couldn't find it this time though. I'm pretty much certain everyone at the ELO you're targetting would like more than one video covering the range. I feel the main take aways here are to learn a M@A build order and a general game plan for Goths that can work in the range. Which is nice, but a wider insight might be nice. I understand you might not want to clutter the main channel (though for sure I'll watch it wherever). But maybe be content for Hera - Gameplay?
Thanks for all that you do for the community! 🙂
www.twitch.tv/videos/1736992822?filter=archives&sort=time this is the VOD
@@MegaFabulous Amazing! Thank you so much. 🙂
Just got the game, can't wait to play my first one tonight. Been watching all your guides at work! Thank you!
I think is worth mentioning that you should always keep your scout and your boar villager on Ctrl group, cause you want to have instant access to them in order to save them from any harm on dark age.
Vamoo Gerardo 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Hey Hera, I just come back to this video as I just won with your fantastic maa build against mongol scout rush in 1000 elo range. I won this game with awareness of what the opponent was doing, which is usually my weakness. Despite the win, I still feel like I have so much to still improve on. My strengths: build-orders are known and consequent (none of that low-elo-legend stuff!), economy is kept neatly, but I often lack sense of what teammates or opponents are doing. I use hotkeys for almost everything, except grouping military units. Do you think the latter is super important to improve?
i would def learn how to group military, but congrats for ur progress!
Just curious, stand-ground stance for the man at arms rush makes sense, but what about defensive stance when you're checking on other stuff? Wouldn't you get the benefit of not chasing vils under a TC, and not standing idle if attacked?
I was looking forward to this series more than HC5
That is a great idea!
Love the series
Following closely this series! Wanna get out of the 1000s
Nice i'll be waiting for the 1400 one. Gracias crack 😉
Main problem / challenge for most is the speed and to play relaxed (not over focus on sth)
Thaks Hera for this video ! 👍
Yes!! great way to start a monday! Saludos
Hera is like was, if you want to be you must be He.
if i had been your rival i would have thought, how does he manage to defend and atack at the same time, not realising he was also running the eco while not breaking a sweat
Yea, the multi-tasking doesn't feel like an 1100s
I wish my 900-1100 elo games were this chill 😂 your enemy had like idk maybe 2 games overall lol.
When I try man at arms around 1000 elo and 250h ingame time they already have army themselves, they know how to build a tower, they know how to wall their units.
I dont want to bash your enemy, like I said on other videos I am playing since Dec and hovering around 1000-1100 elo 50% winrate thanks to all the videos from you Viper Survivalist and Spirit of the Law if not even more aoe youtubers.
like another commentor said, people are crazy at this elo. Some people know FC to their absolute heart as Portuguese/Burgundians and completely overwhelm you as soon as 15min into the game.
@@smashenYT it wasnt that his enemy was bad, it was that hera had control the whole time and enemy just couldnt keep up
@@juliux999 enemy was real bad, do nothing when Hera kill vills near woodline/
I need a Mr. Meesix to coach me every step of the way from 900 ELO to 2K.
Nice, i was just watching your old vid and was wondering if it still counts. Bought the game like 2 days ago.
Thanks for these!
Hey this is for me 😃
This is different than the Men-at-Arms into Archers build you give in that beautiful document to your Twitch subscribers, which puts 4 on wood initially. New meta, or an optimization for Goths who can't collect food while researching Loom?
New optimized build
Wearing a hoodie for extra difficulty in the hot Argentinian summer we're living 🥵
Love
Looking for help.
I go up with 19 pop M@A rush likewise but i always struggle getting my eco up and running.
My opponent just walls makes an archer and gets faster castle. Contols map > siege forward maybe even castle drop..imps faster too.
Any advice on when i reach feudal to retain map and strong eco welcome.
Thanks.
Yessir
Can you do more videos targeted for this elo range, but that dont end right away?
Hera’s midi-chlorian count rivals master Yoda’s.
Like that one ❤
I'm at 1050 but not sure why I struggle that much... I'm familiar with feudal age aggression but as soon as I develop to ~1080, I get crushed again lol
This disconnect was likely to a bug which emerged again after seemingly having been fixed. That dreaded "A running process may be interfering..." bug where that "other program" is actually your video card driver! There are plenty of forum discussions, no permanent solution. And it's soooo unpredictable. It happened to me at 40 minutes in a game. Fresh install, antivirus and firewall and other programs turned off.
Maybe if some of the most famous players could pressure the devs to focus more on this.... otherwise players would leave in droves.
I ve read something about amd. Do you have amd or Intel?
@@SuchSilenceGR Intel, but using an nvidia card.
Out of interest, what rank do y'all think the Extreme AI plays at? I just beat it for the first time so am thinking its time to try a game online.
hera orgullo argentino!!!
Hype
Is there a Playlist for this Series?
Hera, should I be able to defeat the extreme AI before I play ladder?
you should be fluent in mandarin, arabic and english, thats all u need
u can use that if u want, or u can jump right into ladder, its up to u. Extreme AI is around 1000-1100 ELO
your enemies will be as bad as you
I jumped in when I could beat moderate - I still had fun. Extreme AI is easy to beat for me now
@@Toralen What is your elo now? I am at 1100.
@Hera: do you also apply stand-ground to archers?
this man got massacred rip
Hi urjohnson ❤
I gotta say I love this series and the previous ones.
However, dont you think its better to do the lower level tutorials against an AI and without randoming a civ? In this one, for example, you went m@a even though almost no 1000 elo player can successfully do a m@a build and actually use the m@a correctly. opponents then DCed which had cut things short.
I loved this video but it feels more messy and harder to learn from compared to your previous series.
Last time i did it vs AI everyone asked me to do it vs real players
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Well i guess that people who dislike a specific thing would be more vocal about it than people who like a specific thing, coz the latter would just say "i love this video thanks".
But i see you did consider both options and the video is great nevertheless!
Absolutely appropriately named person called RagingBtch really did well spoiling the results of the tournament at 7:44. You love to see it. Completely spits on T90's efforts to keep the thumbnails and titles spoiler-free.
Doesn't seem like 1000 Elo TBH😅
I often think the same when watching other players around my elo, because the players sometimes do stuff worse at which I am good for my elo, but I think one often overlooks one's own weeknesses. That being said I think you are right , because I think Hera might not have finished all his placement games for the road to 2k account the opponent's elo is a bit lower than Hera's (the opponent seems to have peaked around 1k and used to be around 950 elo)
also this feels infinitely lower than 1k elo
Why opponents looks like 500elo?
13:50. I want a refund!!
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when hera is smurfing in a video it's good, but when i play on a account where i only play Sicilians and try to learn donjon rush strats i got 2v2 instead of 1v1 and teammate called me a smurf bcs i played 10 games and griefied me with walling my town center so i resigned (reminder i didn't play aoe2 for couple weeks + i was on 1300 elo my main account is 1400-1500 i cant just start from 1500 elo ofc i need to win games to get my elo and it doesn't even take that long to gain elo on new account)
As long as ur not smurfing to ruin other peoples experience its fine
This man is gonna be pissed if he sees this video, trying to get some elo at 1000 and you play hera 11
Lol, its like 900 gameplay nowadays
Maybe held back a bit to little, show how to do it right and then make small mistakes to show why it was important to do it right. This game was 1200+ because never lost control, and also opponent resigned mentally when could tell you control your game that much.
He was holding back - didn't even block the villagers with his scout which is common at 900 elo
Where 600-800?
check previous episode
Those disconnect a
Or no gg got really popular recently. Also insults become much more commen