Why you should NOT buy anything bigger than a 400cc
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Bought a 2018 Kawasaki Ninja 400 ABS KRT Edition for my 74th birthday, after a 30 year hiatus from motorcycle riding. That was a MUCH better decision than my former wives!
motorcycles don't get pregnant either, ride safe pops
@@rabinkunwar ...and, there's no ongoing child support and alimony!
Rubber down, my brother ; )
Awesome! Welcome back. Great choice. I have the exact same bike. I hope to be riding at your age. I took off 28 years and started back riding a couple of years ago. Mid-life crisis. I'm now 50. Best of luck with future wife choices. Ha!
@@mark52111 I learned my lesson - for the last 15 years I've had a LIW (live-in-woman) who likes to think that she's my girlfriend, and who contributes financially to "living expenses". Those "living expenses" go towards buying my mantoys ; )
usernamemykel Live to ride,ride to live!
An old Harley rider told me back when i used to ride a rebel- 'Dosen't matter what you ride, the ladies don't know the difference' So true too. 90% of people don't know a Ninja 400 from a S1000r, heck most don't even know what "cc" means, or if you say your bike has 100 horsepower they'll say "is that alot?". No use trying to impress people that don't know what impressive even is. If it can get the front wheel up, its enough for anyone to have fun on. 40ish horsepower in a lightweight bike is my idea of a perfect motorcycle anyway. I've had bigger bikes but for what i do, i like the 500cc and under classes because they're just so easy to get around on if you commute. Bigger bikes are a pain sometimes, and the higher the price, the higher the stakes if something happens.
@Will _ Surgery for what?
So True. 🤣
Best comment
If you're thinking of a motorcycle in term of impressing other people, you missed the point of riding entirely.
if you're only ridding to impress people then i guess why are you ridding??
Anyone i know who rides cant wait to hop on a 600 or above?
Never have i ever heard of someone wanting to just "commute" on a 500.
Bigger bikes will leave it behind.
Trust me i ride with a group. It definitely sounds like you don't have any ridding buddies or know what your're talking about.
RC 390 rider here. Every single word stated here is true. Smaller bikes are a blast in the city and the twisties, you’re almost never overwhelmed and that makes you feel confident and try to push a bit harder every time while still being safe.
People there making fun of 400cc while in Europe we start with 125cc lol
Realrap
My licence exam was on a 600cc fazer. You START with 125 for maybe 2-3 lessons and then go 600 pretty quick.
Depends on you're age I'm 24 and going for a mt-07 but I have dirt background from 50cc to 250cc
People make fun but most of the MotoGP riders are from Europe 😂😂😂😂.
Same in the Philippines lol
I ride my 400 pretty hard and after 2200 miles I’m averaging 56.5mpg. If I go soft on her I can coast around all day at 70-80mpg. Yeah it’s not the fastest thing in the world. But it’s an absolute blast and when you’re putting yourself through college it’s nice to have a bike where everything is inexpensive. Cheap tires, great mpg, $9 a fill up, easy oil changes, easy maintenance... etc. I love it.
@SurgeActual that bike has since been crushed into a small cube. $0 to fill up now…
@SurgeActual yep thankful to be alive. Put 11k miles on the bike before I got hit. Then 6 months in physical therapy to walk and use my hands again
@SurgeActual nah not since then. I have a GR86 now though that’s my new baby. But nothing is better than riding. I just can’t afford to go down again or they can’t fix it the next time.
@SurgeActual all good man. Ride safe!
@SurgeActual same here. Full gear at the time. That’s why I’m alive
Coming from a car background, the Miata reference makes so much sense. Its alot more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow. Also if you aren't as experienced as a driver/ rider, You are only going to be going faster when you crash. Stay Safe, Stay Smart.
So true. I have so many friends who think they're a more skilled driver than they actually are and they've crashed their miatas. You have to be pretty bad at driving if you crash a Miata. I have one myself and never crashed. I don't want to fall into the same trap as them with motorcycles. You absolutely have to build skill to drive or ride good. It doesn't just come to you out of the blue. Thanks for reminding me
I have to disagree.
My first car had 220hp on the wheels - I was 17 - and it saved my life multiple times - either getting me out of trouble during overtaking, because it had the power to accelerate fast, or saved me because of good brakes.
This is the reason I got myself a 1000cc motorbike as my first bike - yes, I need to get used to the fast acceleration and torque - it was the same when I got my car.
But, give it time, a few 1000mls riding, and I will catch up faster.
Then, there is the other issue - here in the UK, they struggled to find for me a 125cc I could ride correctly because I'm tall with long legs.
The 650cc after was fine as it's basically the little brother of my bike.
Yes, I also owned small cars sport cars, and I had the most fun in a Fiat Panda, until I took it out onto the motorway, then it was terrible.
@@ldorman I'm sorry what? You got a liter bike as your first bike? Yeah imma have to disagree anyone start on a liter bike. everyone I know that did either went down in size because even they realized it dumb for public roads and 90 percent of track riders. the other people I know that started on liter bikes are no longer alive.
I kind of see your point but you're just more comfortable on the fast car when driving slow because it's built for speed. Of course it's not worth the price difference.. unless you don't want to be SEEn in a Miata....
Absolutely. In town my Mazda 3 hatch is more fun than my awd talon with ~300-350hp (miss those rainy wind-ie roads).
I enjoyed the light, push it at every lite aspect of my ninja 250 so much, that rather than get a bigger bike, I chose to upgrade to a Ninja 300. 5 years later, and don't regret that at all.
I now also have a DR650, which is completely different, all linear torque from a big tame thumper, still in a bike that weights about the same. It's not nearly as fun in town (hey, it's a bike it's still fun), and it's hard not to speed at low in town speeds, because you won't even notice accidentally bumping up 15mph. But it's great offroad.
That's a nice combo of bikes. If I was doing long distance travelling on a bike (more than 8hrs 1 way), I would trade one of them out. *But that would be a hard decision!* Trade the adventure/offroad bike? Or lose my super fun push it every day daily driver? (is having 3 bikes excessive?)
im age 55 and coming back to bikes.. im on a ninja 400 so not just a good beginner bike.. its just a good bike all round
I'm 50 and I Picked up a new Kawasaki Z400...been Riding since about age 24
i got a buddy who rides in our group also pushing 50 something and he rides a CBR 600 and is honestly one of the best riders i know personally.
Im 54 and at 50 i bought a vstar 1300cc. Way to heavy.
Im 170 and i have a ninja H2R
Same here, I'm 56 and looking to get a bike again. I like the Honda cb300r, I like the more up right stance.
I have a CBR 125 for ripping around my small town here in Canada. Speed limits are low and the roads are curvy. It’s actually really fun for what it is.
Started on a ybr 125 myself. Absolutely incredible fun. Probably more usable fun than my sv650 (maybe because it was the 650s).
what do you pay for insurance bro im in toronto and want a cbr 125
@@paulnolan6866 i am planning to buy ybr 125, currently on cd 70
@@devoonbmx603
Good little bikes those things 😃👍
Imo small cc bikes going fast is better than big cc bikes going slow
I started on a Ninja 250 for a couple years before switching to a 600. I honestly miss the smaller bike and will definitely buy one again. These smaller bikes are just so fun, controllable, and a lot faster than you think.
But a 600 is honestly the better of the two. It’s fast and responsive. I have rode many 250’s 600’s 1000’s 1300 and the zx14 I will always go back to the 600.
if ur buying another bike
can i have ur 600?
I know it is completely different bike, but I do ride '01 BMW F650GS and it is astonishingly good! Very responsive, super nimble, comfy af and surprisingly fast in the corners. I wanted to buy F4i but one of my friend let me know that GS is available (funny part is that one day before I rode his '00 F650GS and was surprised how easy is to ride this bike). Even though I love sport bikes, accidentally I felt in love in tourist/adv/enduro bikes. Everyone should try those bikes!
U should try zx25r. But ur country don't have one right? Zx25r stock 51hp could go well over 197kmh. A modified zx25r racing exhaust system, sprint P08 filter, it could go over 200+
@@SimPoolman I got a 650 and 750 after my Ninja 250 and now I'm looking at going back to either a 300 or 350.
I just want a bike that I can just jump on and go to the shops or cane at full throttle round the bends without coming a cropper.
It's definitely more fun riding a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow for me.
I had to taste bigger bikes but I do prefer smaller ones. They still go fast enough to be enjoyable
"Oh it's 400. It's so small"
Filipino riders : *surprise pikachu meme*
south east asian be on the honda wave 110i.
@@galaxymode which is somehow tricked out to beat 600cc's
Nop, I saw Many Bajaj Dominor 400 and Few Royal Enfiled GT 525 in Metro Manila and Quezon City in 2018
China major cities already banned bikes ages ago...so sad
@@gamwpanagia Not inline 4 600s
These bikes are just about unbreakable. Bought one for my wife to learn on and she loved it, commuted to work for 2 years before upgrading. Very reliable and don't think it can't handle the revs, they can sit on 100mph all day long.
no way my friend totaled his just trying to pop a wheelie 😆. it's a 250 bro
@@310smoker no its a 400
How many RPM’s is engine spinning at 100mph?
@@martycech5844 Doesn't really matter. These small jp twins can rev all day long, be poorly maintained, and still live a super long time.
@@martycech5844 at 100mph mine hangs around 10k while weighing 170lbs. Bike still has a lot more speed after that though. Can go 120mph at my weight, but you can bring it to 126ish if your weigh less.
Something my buddy told me when I was looking for a first bike was that the 250/300/400 cc bikes might be slow bikes but they are still fast vehicles. They will out accelerate and handle most commuter cars that people like me are coming off of. Another piece of advice I got is that "outgrowing" bikes is a good thing. Don't "grow into" an R6 as a first bike because like you said, you'll never learn properly. Get a 250 and learn to wring it out. Once you've done that, move up.
This is what I did, started on 250 & now have a 600. Recommended 👍
I guess i'm not sure about "growing" into a bike. Honestly...these post make it seem like if you jump on a R6 death will ensue. Buying a cheaply made, overpriced low CC garbage is just a waste of time and money. Buy once, cry once. As long as you are careful a 600cc is just a safe to start on as a 250cc. I see a lot of people ripping 250-400cc "quasi" sport bikes like hooligans and unfortunately although they might look like a sportbike, they are essentially just standards gussied up to look like the real thing. IMO, that makes it more dangerous. I'd like to see lower CC sportbikes are a true thoroughbred sportbikes with chassis tech of the larger bikes, then i'd agree with the statement of "growing out" of a bike. Really, with the new crop of low cc "sportbikes" you're growing out of an antiquated chassis well before you are growing out of a low hp motor. At that point, start out with a cheap used Honda Rebel.
@@justinlefevre542 the problem with that is that most Brand new riders don't have the throttle control necessary for a 600 or above and due to that it can VERY easily get away from them and get them hurt or killed. Most newbies just don't have the throttle control or skills needed for a powerful bike. Accident waiting to happen.
@@russbilderback Im a beginner with 0 prior experience. First bike after driving school i hopped on was a 1998 fireblade, so basically a litre bike (wasnt my bike, it was my friends)
I had no problem with throttle control. I would say its harder for people who have ridden 125-300cc bikes for years to control a 600 or 1000. Because theyre use to going full throttle and banging gears
@@aok9153 bro u cant go banging gears in the city on a 300, throttle control is all about mental control.
I've owned 34 different bikes and 2 were ninja 250 and 1 was a ninja 300 and the little ninjas are a blast to ride and very economical..... And if you ride you've probably already heard this several times (because it's true), it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to ride a fast bike slow.......
me too! Ninja 250 brought back all the spirit!
@Shalin MGTOW negative, fast bikes are beyond lame to ride slowly, they are only enjoyable when wide open, I've had em all and the slower bikes hold a special place in my heart, if only they sounded like a 600 scream or a 1000 roar I'd have never left the little bikes
Yeah and I grow unicorns in my back yard and captured manbearpig
It's even more fun to ride a fast bike fast!
Have ever riden a Yamaha XJ6 Straight piped? I call it perfection
I absolutely hate hearing anyone talk about bikes under 600cc and calling them "beginner" bikes.
Started on a Honda Grom, got a Ninja 400 2 days ago! I learned SO MUCH riding my Grom, down shift rev-matching being in the correct gear and all around street awaress!
Stunt that grom now😂😂 I'm jp but I did it opposite from you just to learn how to stunt
@@oscarangeles7821 Yesterday I asked this guy on a grom to wheelie and he was reluctant but the truck behind him all start yelling for it so he did. Grom is such a vibe
Mod that bihhhh
when you disrespect a bike, it will take you down and grind off some hide or worse.
No matter the displacement
TRUTH!
agreed
Dude!!!
Two strokes are laughing at you!!!
There is no lie in that, especially in the desert turning it will dump you quicker than you realize on a sandy turn.
I bought its sister bike, the Z400, last year when it was introduced. My first bike at age 69. SKR reflects my experience: I wanted a bike that I could fling around like I did bicycles like I was a kid. It's actually happening! Would also point out that, besides the secret knowledge that you have one of the best-handling and responsive bikes, you also know you didn't spend a ton of money. (I paid in cash.) Not often talked about, but many bikers, especially younger ones, are stuck paying off a hefty loan. They've bought a bike with which not only the power, but the cost, are too much too manage.
Just got the 2022 Z400 as my first bike last week at 51 years old. I’m loving it. I’m getting used to the power. I was actually worried I got a TOO powerful bike for the first couple days. But I’m learning throttle control and when the best time to shift where I’m not going so fast. I’m so happy getting to ride.
@Evil Eye 210. And it works fine for me.
Started on a 2019 ninja 400 abs as my first bike ever. I'm at 3,000 miles and Its the perfect balance of engaging, forgiving, and downright fun for a new rider. Yeah I can't hop on the freeway and rip past people in 2nd gear, but I also won't get arrested so I take that as a win ;) Also gas prices and full insurance coverage for a 27 year old are quite delightful in terms of how little I pay!!
I bought a Ninja 400 a couple months ago as my first bike and I absolutely love it! Awesome vid I’ve been waiting on this one for a long time... thanks for giving the little 400 some love! Earned a sub from me.
Phil Myass Usually around 11-12 mph
Hope you have lots of fun, if it's even better than my Ninja 300 should be a lot of fun. Adjustable footpegs can lower the pegs by an inch, gives slightly better leg room
is it fast/quick?
B Haddock yeah I love it and I already have been eyeing some adjustable rearsets!
Benny Snipes I’ve only ever rode a CBR300r and this bike but this is much quicker than that one
This guy is 100% RIGHT!!! I love my 400!!! Fast enough for me to have fun, but not too much power to wipe out easily. Was told I'd get tired of it and want to move up......still waiting for that to happen LOL
I really want a CBR500R but my friends keep pushing me towards a 600 bec they think ill get bored of the 500 it would be my first bike too
@@AP-wu1rv Well they're partly correct, but not because of the relatively low power. The CBR500R has a very upright seating position and soft suspension. It has plenty of power, but the chassis is horrible for fast riding. I've ridden my brother's CBR500R, and I much prefer my CSC RC3 which is a very sporty 250, but with only 20hp. It may not have the power of the Honda, but it's much more flickable since it's lighter, the suspension is stiffer, and it has a seating position similar to a 600.
Same and my country is kinda populated, so its hard to get a road that you can use 600cc+ bike full capability on, hard to do it on normal freeway unless you're suicidal
Being 6’2 also gives me a lot of confidence from so many RUclips videos out there on how to go about getting a first street bike. Rode dirt bikes growing up and for the 15min drive to and from work and another 12min to an from the gym, I’m convinced this is the right purchase I will be making in the next couple months. 🙏🏽 thank you for the good content.
I agree most people can't Ride a 400cc bike to its limit but yet they want to get a 750 or 1000
Big engine bikes are either for speed or distance. I can cover 400 miles on my cb500x but, I will cover 600 on Super Tenere. Not that it is not possible to do same but, there is difference of how you feel at the end of day.
Most people can move a bike from point to another and claim they can handle bikes, but can't get the best from the bike.
Don't worry, they're not riding their 750 or 1,000 to the limit either. the bike might be pushing THEM to THEIR limit, but they have no idea what their liter bike can do.
Riding above 6k RPM all the time is not relaxing. I had a Ninja 250 once. Sure it could get me around town but not nicely.
When a hobby becomes more about bragging then enjoying it becomes less valuable. I know many people who purchased super expensive Harleys or super fast busa but kept in kn a garage all its life. Whatever I have is what I "RIDE". Its either you have it or you don't get it.
My first street bike was a new 1998 Yamaha YZF 600 ... I made a decision to buy a Kawasaki Z400 2 weeks ago at age 50 and it feels like it has more usable power than the 600 I once rode ...the Z400 makes me feel 25 again....l just traded in my z400 and now I'm riding a Very Comfortable Suzuki Burgman 400....Ride on Brother
usually riding something younger... makes u feel better. :P
1998 600s weren’t fuel injected .. thats why
I hear you!!! I'll be 77 next birthday LOVE my Ninja!!!!!!!
@@g-low6365 that's what she said...LMAO
The Burgman is a surprisingly capable bike. Plenty quick in the real world and all day comfortable. I love mine! I have FIVE other bikes and I usually take the burger.
I planned on getting a Honda 2021 CBR500 ABS, but it sold and i got a 2020 Ninja 400. Its amazing, highly recommend for new riders.
“These small bikes are too slowwww”... it 0-60s just as fast as your 5.0 coyote you keep stroking 😂
The 0-60 for this bike is not quite as fast as what he showed because he was going down a ramp. It's closer to 4.5 seconds.
The best part about this bike is this: you put me on that bike on a track with a bunch of liter bikes and I'll lap EVERY SINGLE PERSON that talked smack about it saying it was slow and small. Might lap a few of them 2-3 times over.
@@bryanharrison3889 it’s a slow bike man. numbers don’t lie. bragging abt beating a clueless rider doesn’t change the numbers.
Top speed 121mph
@@bryanharrison3889 on Track, yes smaller bikes are better overall. Out in real world driving situations, bigger bikes take over. I've had my 600's, 750's, 1,000's, and now riding a ZX14R. Coming up through the engine size ranks, I throw my ZX14R around like I did my 600, but with much more power behind it.
Thanks for dropping words of wisdom for new riders as well, like checking mirrors for what is behind you when braking. I am a new rider, happily learning on my 250. Sure I am in 4th gear pushing 45...but I'm learning intelligently as a brand noobie.
My freaking 350cc RE Meteor gets more attention than my FXDRS. My best pickup line with the RE is, "It gets 100MPG"
(Realistically like 93MPG cause American Road speeds are higher than where it was benchmarked in India, but pffftt, close enough).
Most people don't care for CC, Horsepower, sound, _maybe_ they might care for looks, but a common thing a lot of normal people do care about is efficiency and during this time, 100MPG drops people's jaws without fail, more than any other number on the bike!!!
You know that’s not true bro everybody asks me to rev my r6 and they call it nice and even ladies call my bike beautiful I don’t think they say that about your 350cc just saying bro
There's a saying in dirt bike racing "corner for dough, jump for show" I'm sure it applies here somehow.
I completely agree. Some newer riders think anything but a liter bike is a waste of money. Technique beats power every time. Get good technique down first and eventually speed will come, and you'll be better at handling the power of a liter bike. I've seen so many riders on smaller bikes blow away less experienced, poorly skilled, riders on huge bikes.
I wasn't taking anything less than a 600, a 600 is what I wanted and I don't regret getting one, I find everything pretty easy, keeping my distance to spot and avoid random road debris, and going wide open when looking for fun
There is always one to perpetuate that BS point, isn't there? According to your logic you should saw your legs off because Usain Bolt is still faster than you at running, so you don't even deserve having legs.
As for me, I don't give a damn who's faster and who's slower. It's more about enjoying the bike, rather than about absolutely necessarily being faster than everyone else on the face of the planet. If you like a liter, can afford a liter and you do *understand* what a liter is, just go get a liter. No need to waste your time on a moped and going up 50 cc at a time.
Get Sideways Be that as it may 1000cc bikes are unforgiving when it comes to new rider mistakes like whiskey throttle.
It's awesome that there are suddenly so many *good* small displacement bikes to choose from.
Always love inline 4 400cc bikes
@@Frank_E-is3ey lol, there are none in line 4 with that displacement, in line 4th are starting from 600cc
I have been transforming my 400 into a dedicated track bike over the last year. On a tight, technical track it will keep up with 1000's no problem.
I've had a few bikes and just bought the 2018 ninja 400. It's a dream to Ride!! Perfect amount of power. Very easy to throw around. It feels incredibly safe when cornering, much different to my ninja 300. It's seriously the nicest bike I've owned and I know I can keep up with anything!!
Just got my 2021 ninja 400 abs almost a week ago, got almost 300 miles on er. I ride with my bro in law and he got the 2022 Hayabusa, it's so nice not having to worry about a big ass bike like he does. Best first bike I could of gotten I think
I'm gonna get the Honda Navi . more fun bet
I'm so glad I started with a 250cc, it's light and nimble. It's great on City streets, but way too sluggish on a freeway. I can bring it up to freeway speed, but it takes time. Still I love my little 250cc it's a fun city street bike.
Speak for yourself, my 1997 4 cyl 250 cc honda hornet did 180 kph. 0 - 100 in 5.8 sec.
My 750 cc 2 cyl does about the same.
@@semvv8638 but that’s a proper 4 cylinder sports bike, most 250s nowadays are twins and meant to be less powerful for beginners
The small ones are human vibrators on the freeway.
Same for me. My 250cc Works in the city and is not too heavy but has a decent amount of power to not be terrible on the highway.
The Ninja 250s have about 30% more HP, which makes a big difference for freeway vs a lot of the other 250's. But you can't be rev-shy for that.
I still think it's borderline for 70mph freeways (passing is like a 90's family sedan, which is not enough power to get out of the way fast).
And to Su Freidman, my 250 seemed smooth on the freeway, no hand numbing. Actually my 300 has a little, because it seems to have some resonance point that corresponds to one of the foot pegs. (should be an easy fix by changing the foot peg geometry and dampening).
I was more aware of engine vibrations on my friends GSXR750 at low rpm, than on my 250, but at medium to high rpm it smooths out substantially.
I just bought this bike last week I love it man! It’s my first bike and I was worried it was gonna feel slow because it’s not a 600cc but man this feels like a good balance for a first bike. Not fast to where you’re focused on keeping it on the road and not slow to the point where you’re gonna get bored of it in a few months.
bro id get bored of this bike after 2 mins of riding it. buy a real bike and have fun
@@agrozema54 I got an r6 now 💀
@@agrozema54 Pttf, a "Real" bike is heavier and much more impractical for regular street riding. (Unless you like breaking the law).
@@brokeblasian do you regret buying the 400cc?
I can relate to this quite a bit. I started on an R1, switched to a GSXR 1000 and now have a hayabusa. I can say for certain it took me a lot longer to become a good rider because it took a lot longer to build confidence on a bigger bike. However I do not regret my choices at all. Like everyone says, you should buy the bike that you want and enjoy, not the bike someone wants you to get.
I actually got approved for one of these (400 ABS) today as my first bike. I chose the smaller and cheaper bike because I know mistakes will be made. I'll spend the big money once I get more confident in my driving ability.
riding*
Very smart, me too!
"Mistakes will be made
Smart decision
Did you make mistakes or upgrade yet?
110% agree with everything you discuss in this video. I started on a modified Gsxr600 five years ago and wrecked it after a year of having it due to my lack of common sense and inability to read corner speed. However I acquired my pop's cbr250r repsol and daily rode it for another year and really fine tuned my riding and corner handling. To all the new riders out there looking to get their first bike, go small and learn the fundamentals. Getting anything bigger will be like skipping the first few chapters in a book. Ride safe, ride smart
Agree. Have a brother in law brand new to bikes thought he was gonna start on a custom Harley chopper. Only thing that stopped him was the $15K price tag. He went to MSF to get licensed then bought a VTX 1300. Sold it less than 6 months later with maybe 2 hours in the saddle. He was never able to gain any confidence on it. Hell, I rode it before he did and the thing was a tank. I've been riding on and off since I was a kid and have owned 5 street bikes, now, 4 have been full-time rides (I live in AZ, so no real reason for downtime). Last, current and next bike Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Custom. I love the comfort and ease of control (I wouldn't mind a little more power, but I'm good with it) I could NOT convince him, no matter how much I tried, that the size of the bike has NOTHING to do with the size of his wanger. Oh, well. His loss.
Beginners. Listen to Sean. He's absolutely telling you the truth!
Love mine. I get compliments everywhere I go on it. The 2018 yellow 💛. It's so clean. Changed rear sprocket for easier wheelies. It's just fun to ride,and easy to throw around!
I'm just here to say that i started on a ninja ZX6R a little intimidating at first. Definitely heavy at first if you're not use to the weight. never went over 30MPH first two weeks. No regrets what so ever. It didn't take long before i got use to the weight, speed, braking, throttle everything. It's second nature for me now to hop on and take it through any road. respect the bike and you will be okay.
It’s honestly harder to go from a 250 to a 600 than it is to just start on a 600. People learn habits on the smaller bikes that would get them killed on a bigger bike. I started on a Ninja 500 which is about the biggest small bike out there and it’s fairly quick. But, when I got on a 600 for the first time you have to relearn a lot, can’t twist that throttle, take turns, brake, or hit rough terrain like a 500. I now own the Ninja 500 and a SuperSport because they are so different that I can enjoy both in different ways.
Until a car pulls out in front of you on a ZX-6R you freak out and lose control of the massive amount of speed that sends you to an early death. You were a recipe for disaster you just got lucky like most do. Ask the ones that don't get lucky oh that's right most likely they can't hear you anymore.
@@russelldevane5434 If a car pulls out in front of you on any bike your going to have a bad day. Doing 85mph on a 250 and hitting a car and doing 85mph on a 600 and hitting a car equal being dead either way. You can die on a moped, just don’t be a idiot and pay attentions and you will be ok.
This was the comment I was looking for, I agree!!
@@russelldevane5434 .... "logic"
I'm getting my 2021 ninja 400 in 2 weeks! Can't wait! It will be my first beginner bike.
How has the bike been and your experience riding it?
@@cvrlitoss I had my Ninja for about 6 months and then traded for a Harley 883. I had a blast on the ninja. Got me comfortable on twisties and on 2 wheels in general. The bike gave me zero issues. I think it was a great investment. The reason I traded it in was my knees were bothering me on longer rides. I prefer the cruiser style now for comfort.
I bought a 400 ccm Yamaha and rode it for 25 years. Then 25 years later, in the U.S. I bought a Honda Sabre and was astonished how easy it is to ride a big one - once experienced on an old small one. You maybe don't need to ride the small bike for so long, but 2 or 3 years is no bad idea to get in.
My first road legal motorcycle was a 97 ninja 500 when I was 16. The thing was amazing it got 70 miles to the gallon and had almost a 5 gallon tank. It handled amazing and was super fun to ride, thought it was pretty comfortable too
Got an '03 for my first bike, fantastic bike to learn riding and maintenance. Just bought a '22 400 and I'd defiantly say it's almost exactly like the 500, more than the 250 or 300.
I had a Ninja 500 too. Except I got about 55 MPG LOL. Great bikes and when you consider it had 60 HP back in the late 80's it's pretty damn amazing. 120HP per liter and dead reliable too.
I had my ninja 300 for 3 years. I loved that thing. In the turns I would literally eat up my friends who were riding liter bikes. They were all too scared to really get it in the corners. I recently traded my Ninja in for a 2017 Sportster Roadster edition Harley and I love it. I really cant agree enough about a starter bike being smaller. You get to build so much confidence and riding ability. That bike was so forgiving to me with the technology like the Slipper clutch assist and ABS. I learned a lot of lessons and had plenty of "Ohh Shit Moments" on that bike. The throttle response in the low RPMs was very forgiving.
I really feel the part about being able to use every ounce of the bikes power on the smaller bikes. You can just give it everything and nothing felt better than when you are synced up and everything is coming together.
Great video man!
how do you like the roadster? I like the looks but I wonder about cornering speed and ability , also that it looks like it could feel top heavy
Same here bro I’ve had my ninja 300
For 3 years and 4 months now moving up to the ninja 400
You're absolutely correct...We have nice road course north of Tulsa Ok called Hallet . On certain days it's run what you brung and you'd be shocked at what usually wins . A class with Corvetts , Camaros , Mustangs and even a 60's Shelby Cobra , it's the 1980's Nissan 280zx turbos that win . They handle great and you can wind the crap out of those inline 6 turbos.
I started on a Ninja 250, it was a great way to start.
Thanks for the review, I have just been posing this question myself.
You've helped me settle on the 400.
Cheers 👍🏻
Bought a 1989 Honda Transalp. Solved both issues: it's a 600 V-Twin so it sounds big, but because it's a dual-sports bike, it only makes 45-55HP (depending on fuel and its mood that day). It's a bit on the heavy side, but it actually feels quite light when on the road.
I ended up buying a husqvarna svartpilen 401 as my first bike. I absolutely love it. It's so much fun. I've had 105 mph out of it. Beats all traffic at the lights. Overtakes great.
3 months out, how do you like it? Working on getting one for my first
Michael f you like sports bikes R3,Ninja 300or 400cc Ktm duke 390
Blessed are the peacemakers. Keep sharing the Word brother!
I was dead set on getting a ZX-6R for my first bike. After taking the Beginners riders course my mind changed real quick..
With the roads I use too get too work a 600 wouldn’t get me their any faster than my Vespa with a knobby front tire haha
@@buffering7612 I ended up getting myself a 390 Duke. Even with the rev limiter set to 7,000 for the first 600miles I'm enjoying every minute when I ride it.
@@Dabeach92 congratulations my friend spend some time with it and you’ll find yourself amazed at the bikes/riders you’ll keep up with when your just cruising.
Literally was my same thought process
Currently on my P's (Australia) and still riding my little Z400. Start with that, it's a great bike. I'll be upgrading to a ZX-6R on my full licence tho!
I enjoyed this very enthusiastic review! A lightweight, 40 - 50 hp motorcycle has more than enough 'real world' performance for road riding and it 'forces' you actively Ride the bike rather than being 'taken along for a ride' on a 180 hp rocket. Actually, they're both awesome in their own way!!
Cb1000
250cc to 400cc bikes are good beginner sizes. No doubt about it
Agreed.
ehh. 600cc is where it’s at
Yet I'm nervous to drive yamaha r15 which has 150cc
@@lamurcribb6888 Nope. Shit's too tall for me.
@@edlenorgaeron8003 how short are you?
The most fun I've ever had on a bike has been on my little Honda CT125. It won't win a single race. It won't climb gnarly trails(my old dual range CT90 will but I digress), but there's something about it. I barely ride my 650cc bike anymore. Puttputting around on country roads is so much more relaxing than racing between places.
This was my first bike. I just started riding around a year and a half ago, and I loved this bike. LOVE LOVE LOVE this motorcycle. Even now, after I traded it in and upgraded to a gsxr1000, I still have nothing but great things to say. Exceptional handling, smooth throttle, slpr clutch is something you can certainly appreciate as a first rider. Learned how to corner properly, learned how to watch others, gauge speed, stop, everything on this bike. My only knock is the norm - after about 8 months with it, I needed more. Granted I travel on the interstate often, and the roads around where I live just benefit the 1000 more, helping me avoid other advanced situations. Either way, if you're interested in learning how to truly ride, this honestly is about the best beginner bike I could refer.
In Seattle, there are a bunch of Grom riders. You can tell they're having a blast, enjoying the commute, flicking it through traffic. Light, nimble, fun.
The guy with his Liter Bike? It's in the garage
seattlegrrlie i live in kent 20 min or so outside seattle and my grom got stolen a couple months ago
@Calamity i dunno either. But you ever ride a 1000 in the city like an r1? Wooowee they got hot at every red light. Fan kicks on shooting 220f air at your face and thighs will be redder than the devils dick.
@@mrsotko Riding any motorcycle in an urban setting is not fun and more dangerous. If you are doing that routinely then you definitely missing what motorcycling is all about and using it mainly as basic transport.
@seattlegrrlie Not true, my Liter motorcycle does not spend much time in the garage at least on weekends. My motorcycle is for entertainment not basic transportation. A Grom is so appropriate image for Seattle and the soy boy/girl, leftist identity. Groms riders justify their ownership on the basis that it is more fun and economical. The truth is they probably can't afford something more like a car or a larger new bike.
I pass Groms like they are standing still and larger riders on them convey an almost circus clown image. Superior acceleration, handling, and sustained cruising speed of bigger bikes equals greater ability to travel extended distances for more corners/miles/fun for those of us fully-employed individuals with families and limited free-time.
This Kawasaki Ninja 400 is a perfect bike for newer or beginner riders. At least it can keep up with traffic on the freeway which would be a death wish for any Grom rider.
@@kannermw what is ninja 400 top speed ??
My first streetbike was and is a 2000 gsxr750 low miles. Good bike. Obviously not for a beginner. I grew up around streetbikes and raced super cross for a while so I understand bikes and how to respect them. Really you can get whatever you want for your first bike but make sure you can handle it. I test rode a few of my buddies bikes (gsxr600,gsxr750,cbr600) after I rode the 750 I fell in love. Ride safe fellow riders 💯🖤
My first sport bike was a 2003 Suzuki SV 650s. That I tricked out. Full fairing. Frame sliders two brothers Carbon fiber exhaust and much more. I miss that bike! I wish I never sold it. I learned how to ride it and was able keep up with just about anything on the twisties!
I got several bikes 125-998cc...
and my favorite bike is my Honda Grom!
Enjoy the bike life 🤙
AeroR Grom on the freeway is cool too
WoW! That’s 😎
Very meaningful. I cant believe i overlooked this magnificent ninja 400. Its just perfect.
The Miata analogy was perfect
I wish they made more inline-4 400ccs or lower. Parallel twins sound terrible compared to inline-4s.
I used to own a Honda CB400 and I love the way it sounded. Upgraded to a Hornet 599, but I still miss that CB400.
There is a trade off that becomes more significant with smaller engines, more cylinders mean not just more rotational mass but more mass that has to stop and change direction each revolution. Add to that the fuels these days are a slower burn, which extends the duration there is force on the piston, and you can see why a longer stroke would be beneficial. It gives more torque at the expense of HP. For bikes aimed at learners where in many places there are HP based restrictions, It can keep the bikes overall power useable while meeting those restrictions.
I still have a 84 z400f that you have to work hard and wring its neck to keep up with anyone, fun and rewarding ride without the prison speeds.
You haven’t heard an mt/fz-07 with a decent exhaust. Sounds absolutely monstrous
@@IntoTheMystery13 I have actually. Yeah, it's loud, but parallel twins really doesn't sound as good as inline 3s or 4.
Sound alone, I would prefer the triple on the MT09.
Apparently the guy that bought the MT07 upgraded to the MT09 in just 3 months because it just doesn't sound as good. Noisy, yes.
@@liemporider1233 I'd pick a MT07 with a Zard exhaust over any MT09 if we're talking about sound. I guess each one has their own tastes.
I agree, I ended up spending a couple hundred an an m4 Slip on for my Ninja 300 and that made it a little bit more, less "Sewing machine" sounding.
I have a 2018 CB1000R which is ~143 hp. I also have a Tenere 700, 72 hp. I love both bikes but I have way more fun on the Tenere because it’s just so flickable and so easy to corner. I can really ride it hard without worrying too much about it getting away from me or the conditions of the road -it eats pot holes.
It really is true, if you’re spending your time managing the power you’re not learning to ride but rather survive. Tenere is a very tall bike though so definitely not something you would want to have as a first bike, although it handles drops well. Another thing I always tell people, why pay for insurance on a “Ferrari” when your skill set is “Hyundai”?
Nice bike...not to mention it also gets about 60 mpg!
My average is 54.8 over 19 fill ups.
Depending how you're riding it but even giving it plenty of right hand mpg still good
If you have it pinned wide open everywhere it will get through some fuel. Even the 125's are bad on fuel if redlined everywhere you go.
mine is 70 mpg us
My average on my 900 is 52... Just saying.
I like my Triumph Sprint 955i. I don't care who passes me. Let them get the ticket lol
SRK always gets a 👍 from me!
passing on a track
Veteran rider and racer here. Very rarely can a person out grow a 250/300/400 within a year. Just because your comfy going fast doesn't mean you've exceeded the bikes abilities. The cornering ability of a small bike is insane. Drop the ego and get the skills.
I got the Ninja 400 and it’s a Really good Bike it has enough power to keep up with traffic in freeways, here in Cali you can’t ride to fast specially in LA, so I’m good for now...
"Make no mistake this is a race bike, it has ABS"
Go race it then by a coffin
Ur an idiot
I left after that
Kawasaki ninja 300, 400, Yamaha R3 are all sports tourer, these are not proper sports motorcycles. 400 in 90's were proper sports motorcycles. Only RC 390 is proper sports motorcycle.
Whsts wrong with him saying abs
Just picked my first bike up 2 days ago. Went with the Ninja 400 and I'm loving it. Thanks for the content.
I love your ethos and mentality and respect towards all sorts of bikes.
I’ve found 250s perfect for DD and the 500 ish range more than enough for everything else except two up loaded down touring.
I started out 6 years ago on a shadow 1100. My buddy who was "experienced" told me its not too much bike for me. I was able to ride it but I ended up crashing it in a sharp turn. I just got the Ninja 400 last week and it is so much easier to control and a lot more fun than I remember the other bike being.
that's because turning is one of the hardest things to do in cruisers .
you need to do a s movement before turning. stopping is the 2nd .
A Shadow is a cruiser. A shadow 1100 is an absolute unit of a cruiser, making it heavier, bigger, and harder to turn and ride. I have no idea why you started on a 1100 cc bike.
I agree I have my first bike which is a 2014 ninja 300 and my 2017 cbr 1000 rr sp and I love both of them.
My 1st bike is a 2008 CBR600RR (Bought new and still own) and after 11 years I am hoping to get the H2SXSE+ in the next few years. When the time come i want to test drive for comfort but tho i still LOVE my CBR, I want the H2 haha. Seems like a great sport touring bike to me!
I agree when you say you're missing out. I started on a 2012 CRB250R then moved to a 2015 R3 and now I'm riding a Kawasaki Z650. I feel that now on the Z650 I feel really comfortable and I'm having so much fun. I had a lot of fun on the smaller bikes, but now I have the handling of a smaller bike but still have lots of torque for some straight road fun!!
Put Yah The Most High Elohiym first! I liked that you included scripture in the video. Grace and Peace to you 👊🏾
Good to see a brother know His name also
Bro I gotta say I really appreciate all ur videos. From learning the basics to deciding on the right bike for me. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming. - Mike
For the record I really really enjoy riding my 1982 Honda Silverwing interstate. Only 497 CC
the more years I get into riding, I am returning into smaller bikes like this
Miatas are amazing. And the same applies to a 400cc bike. Hell, even the Grom at 125cc is awesome and fun as hell.
Grom ftw!
First time rider, my first bike is a Ninja 400 and I haven’t regretted it thus far. Great Bike! I don’t think I’m gonna go bigger. ✌🏽
I ride an 88 CBR250R (MC19) and my husband has many bikes, including an old Z1000 and still loves jumping on mine any chance he gets and will always come home with a smile on his face. Absolutely, without a doubt, the best fun and sounds like a Formula one car too.
The 400 is literally lighter than the 300. At the beginning you said it was slightly heavier, which isn’t the case.
That's because this dude doesn't actually know shit about bikes. watch his other videos, when he downshifts he jerks the bike 80% of the time. He's an idiot
DaH8ter you just described almost every salesman
@DaH8ter Indeed, I haven't seen him even attempt to rev and downshift to RPM match once. That's literally like the third thing you learn at any MSF anywhere. How did he get his M endorsement?
@@danman1012 not sure about the states but where I am in Canada you aren't required to take a course. I went in and did the written test to get my learners. Than time for my road test they gave me an ear peice and followed behind me in their car. So all they were looking for was my position on the road, signals, and shoulder checks basically.
It's 366 pounds. 16 pounds lighter than the 300.
Great video. I agree wholeheartedly I started my wife on a R3 and she progressed quickly to a Honda Rebel 500 and she loves set bike now
I've been riding for 34 years, had bikes from a 175 cc to 1000. I find that for real world, every day riding, the smaller displacement bikes are not only more practical and cheaper to insure but also a lot of fun.
Riders literally have physics on our side when it comes to a performance comparison with cars.
I started on a 600cc GSXR all I have to say is for a new rider who refuses to ride anything smaller then 600cc respect the throttle !
i don't understand why people don't get that!
Bought a 400 3 months ago. It’s been a blast and I ride with the 6s and the 1s and I’m constantly just pulling up on them, In full control, in full confidence.
The 400 ninja is an anomaly. It’s the dojo bike
LOVED your video! The Ninja is my first motorcycle and I am so happy I am learning it all in it. Next bike will be 650, but not till I master the 400!
You will most likely never master a motorcycle because that is practically impossible.
Agreed!
I got my first bike in '09, and it was an '07 R1. I loved that bike, and even though I opened it up time to time, it was obviously way more than I needed. I honestly believe that, if I started smaller with less power, I would've been less apprehensive and gotten more comfortable a lot faster. I would have became a much better rider much sooner.
I will say though, back then we didn't have 400s, and I still believe a 250 IS SOMETHING that you could outgrow in less than a year. When the 300 came out as a starter, though, that was a decent starter. I bought one for my wife and my younger brother, and I rode my wife's (kawasaki 300) more than she did. It's a good bike, man lol.
I haven't thrown a leg over a 400 yet, but I'm frankly considering getting one to give my Diavel a break every now and then. At that price it just seems like an awesome bike I can have a lot of fun on.
You really gotta mention the whole spec of the bike. I personally got a 650cc as my first bike but it only has 47 bhp (rated). It's not particularly fast, but the high displacement means it can handle sustained freeway speeds for 30 minutes or more (from where I live, 30 minutes is the most you'll drive in a freeway except if you're going to a different state) and not run into engine problems. My only issue with it as a beginner is that it's relatively heavy so if you plant your foot down the wrong way on a stop, you're very likely to drop the bike.
Basically, take the type of motorcycle into consideration. A 400cc sport type bike is most likely faster than a 400cc cruiser type.
0-60 quicker than an original H2 back in the day (at 4.2 s)!
Not slow.
I started on the ninja 400 after my motorcycle school. It felt like the perfect amount of power for my skill level
I started on a CBR 600 because the market. Sure there was an accidental burnout and a few wheelies, but trading bikes to work up the ladder gets even more expensive.
Dude that was a super solid 0-60. Well done bro!
Sean man because of you im back riding! High sided my gsxr scared me ro death so picked up the rc390 and WOW WHAT A GREAT BIKE!🔥🔥🔥keep up the great motivational threads my man..
Does it still run?
As someone who has owned two of them, I just love that Sean appreciates the Miata. :)
Small sport cars are definitely underrated. They're economical and fun, definitely perfect commuters.
True. There's a japanese video on youtube of some kind of circuit race where they put two 600 cc bikes, 2 dirt bikes and one small, custom bike and the smallest one won, because the bigger ones couldn't use their power on the corners and fell victim to their weight.
When I was 16, I bought a 2003 Honda CBR 600rr with almost absolutely 0 riding experience, only hopped on a dirt bike a few times before. Didn't have any issues, and I kept it for many years without getting bored and having to upgrade. I still only ride 600's and have never bought anything bigger. As long as you respect the power, and use common sense.. it's easy enough. An old 600 is cheap too, make for good starter bikes. I would personally never recommend any of my friends starting on lower than a 600, because it's a waste of time.. unless you're a safety freak and REALLY worried that you might wreck.. then go lower.
I started on a 600cc, and here 7 years after, i still have the same bike! 600 cc is the perfect engine size for a street bike imo
I thought the same thing when I started on a 600 and had it for years. Now after owning a few 650 twin's, Hayabusa, 1,000 GSXR's and currently have a 300 Ninja and a 1,800 Goldwing (seriously) I'm telling you, try more. There's so much more out there.
'Like a Miata.' I can understand that. So much fun just driving under the speed limit in those. Off the line, slamming through the gears. It's about the take offs, turns, handling, responsiveness. Not much engine, sure, but even less car. Starts and stops like it's a go kart. Even without high speeds it's a lot to work with.
I know this is an older video.
But I find smaller bikes are honestly more fun. You can actually shift know cities, and you can still use it on the highway and have enough power for passing and such. and if you sneeze you won't die from a throttle blip. Haha. Looking to hopefully pick up a Z400, Ninja 400, or and RC 390 after I get my bike learners this year or next.