Soooo true, Adam Sifu....when the attributes are there, nothing really matters. Height, weight, power, speed, accuracy and timing....no one can really argue with physics. What's faster, hits first, what's heavier delivers harder impact, what's taller usually controls distance better and so on. Thank you so much for your amazing contributions. I love WC but have never practiced before. I do a bit of Karate and getting ready for my shodan. But when i get that, I'll step down and try WC. I owe that to myself. Meanwhile, I'll stick to listening to your lessons and paying attention to what you teach. Xièxiè, Sifu. David
Amen Adam. I've developed a lot of attributes from learning techniques and practicing them, particularly T'ai-Chi. I have not been in a fight as an adult, but I have used my attributes many many times in daily life to good effect. One time I saved a guy's ass in a bar and he barely even knew that I did it. He was a taller older guy, overweight and he'd had a few...he was taking pictures of the band that was playing and he was actually looking through the viewfinder not at the little screen so his SA was very low...I watched him with a careful eye and when I saw him stumble, I began to slip off my stool...as he began to fall, I moved a little faster...when I saw that he had zero control and was holding tight to that camera, I moved even faster...by the time I got to him he was nearly horizontal and falling towards a maze of chair legs and sharp table edges. I got to him and immediately glued my center to his and using my legs righted him and sent him back on his way. In the 5 seconds or so that this took, I used situational awareness, agility, speed, and speed adjustment, leg strength, distance management, coordination, physics and timing...all things I learned from TC forms and drills and yet nothing I did resembled in the slightest any movement or posture from the form. I was very happy that my body put together the right combination of attributes to save this guy and all of us really because he was heading for a broken wrist at the least and that would have brought everyone's enjoyment of the music to a screeching halt. Keep up the great work! GB
Dead on as usual brother! One of the major reasons i always recommend your videos to my students! Its nice to have someone else say the same things with different explanations! Thank you keep up the great work!
One of my old teachers (a Pentjak Silat player) always says the "purpose of drills is to build skills and attributes." He also emphasized principles over techniques. That being said, the only thing I would add to your very fine lesson (attributes and context) is the importance of teaching principles behind the techniques. Good stuff, SiFu Chan, as always. Thank you for sharing!
@M A T LOL You apparently don’t know the difference between the two. I’ll gladly educate you. Principles are rules derived from concepts. Examples: “Protect the centerline.” “Receive what comes, follow what goes, hit when the line is clear.” Simultaneously attack and defend.” These are Wing Chun principles, not concepts. I recommend tightening up your vocabulary if you’re going to flex your limited knowledge on someone.
This is why i spend so much time in the gym lifting weights. Strength has helped me soooo much in fights. Attributes. Why do warrior monks spend more time training strength and conditioning than techniques? Attributes. This is a truth no martial arts instructor will say. Thats why i love this channel.
@@boyjuice3414 I think it still applies. Even if everything is more telegraphed, it's very difficult to efficiently block a punch from a super strong guy. You may be able to dodge a lot of them but once it lands, you are in big trouble.
@@xdgxedge9294 True, but still applies. Even if you redirect, you use more energy to redirect that punch, and your hits will have less impact. In the end like Chan Sifu said, it's all about overall attributes.
@@_rami_745 my strategy against a bigger guy is to never let him grab me (yes i fight for a living)... a guy that outweighs you by 100 lbs, there is nothing you can do once he grabs you unless you can grab his groin or get to his throat or eyes. I stay on the outside at all costs. But due to a gym rat lifestyle im stronger than most guys my size or a little bigger. Guys.... LIFT WEIGHTS
I work on footwork the most , I already know I can defend myself , i have had too many times over my lifetime i used to pride myself on the damage I could take and keep coming , which defeats the whole purpose of my training lol now abit wiser I know I can hit hard ,fast and accurately , getting slashed really changed my whole philosophy on martial arts and self defense avoid at all costs been to prison several times because of street fighting , so in the present moment I avoid fighting in the street, although I have had a few incidents where I let ego control fortunate for me I didn't end in prison again , btw I've been free now for 10 years which is the longest stretch of my life , thru treatment I have changed alot of stuff , and still try too be my best self , be safe and train hard everyone
Great context! I consistently speak to others about the attributes. Yes techniques are functional but how effective the techniques are falls on attributes, in other words how it's executed in a fight. Precision, speed, timing, balance etc. That is what will make the difference. Again great important video!
Adam, great advice!!! This is spot on stuff. Have you heard of Jeff Thompson or Peter Consterdine? They echo pretty much exactly what you’re saying about real self defense not being a consensual fight. And in terms of the attribute development, Iain Abernethy has got some great stuff on that from a Karate prospective, again, echoing what you said here. Thanks for all the insightful Wing Chun tips! I hope to train with you one day.
hell yeah man ont the point. im training wing chun too and boxing and nobody on the street stands there with guard position only in training or duels karate vs wing chun ect. but on street there is suprising attack or discussion and then attack. I think the best is to learn few techniques but from different positions, angles and speed.
Hello sifu adam. Im from the philippines & i like your teachings in wingchun at kung report. I always watch your teachings at youtube. Sifu adam can you go & teach a little slower so that we could catch-up of your teachings because you always go lightning speed thats why sometimes we can't catch-up in your teachings. Better go a little slower so we could see & could catch -up in your teachings. Thank you sifu adam. God bless & more power to your program.
In my experience techniques are most important when it comes to grappling scenarios. If you're caught in a choke or headlock you need technique to escape. Attributes such as distance, footwork, bone density and timing are crucial for striking success.
Adam covers this at the 6 minute mark. Technique still won't matter if the attributes are vastly different. Case in point: skinny woman versus... Dwayne Johnson in grappling. Once attributes are fairly close, technique will make the difference. Also, attributes are usually defined as strength, speed, endurance/vitality, agility, and maybe will power/mindset/confidence. Not so much the distance/footwork/timing. Bone density could be one though... Sounds like a video game thing but... that's where video games basically get them from.
Excellent, Master! Now I understand! Techniques don't matter if you don't the skills, or as you said so aptly, attributes, then it doesn't matter if you know the techniques, they won't be successful!
Brilliant Adam. It seems like you read some shitty comments on RUclips. Well, there are many people who avidly watch your channel as you are so knowledgeable and can do it at such a high level. Don't just listen to the keyboard ninjas.
Adam, I would be really interested to see some JKD techniques that are different compared to wing chun. I don’t know if you know any JKD but I assume you do. Any chance of showing some in a video? Would really like to see this. Thanks man
@@axelstone3131 Your welcome. I think that he is more focused on getting members for his 40 week class than promoting anything outside of his own classes. I'm sure that you will find tips in his 40 week class to help you with your JKD and any other martial art.
@@axelstone3131 Here's another guy in the U.K. Emil. ruclips.net/video/ZpmpmFJ0GCQ/видео.html He does Ving Tsun & J.K.D. He has great visuals but doesn't explain the technical aspects as well as Adam does.
Again, very good point that most people forget: your success in martial arts is a combination of athleticism and technique. Someone with extremely high levels in these "attributes" doesn't even have to use that good of form or technique against an average opponent and they know it. I've seen this in high level boxers, grapplers, fencers, etc. Whether you believe in it or not, I like the story of the Shaolin temple. Supposedly everyone was weak and sickly before Bodhidharma came and gave them explanations on how to train for health and to protect themselves. After years of almost nothing but meditating and training, they were seen as almost super human because of their strength compared to the average person of the time. In fact, many of the "techniques" of Shaolin today are merely training methods to strengthen one particular part of the body like "100 step punching", "iron palm", etc.
Master Yang Jwing Ming from Zhong He Chuan ( Ancestral Crane ) use to say that Courage is the first attribute, then Strengh and only third, Technique because if you're not courageus, obviously, your fighting spirit is weak and you won't be able to face a real aggressor, Second, even a non trained people who is really strong can defeat a skilled but weak opponent, the martial techniques are only important in the case you're facing somebody who is as strong as you are.
The last fight i got in, the guy came at me with his guard up like he was gonna hit me... once he moved in range i just hit him first. But watching this video im remembering i never put my guard up. I just hit the guy.
wow sounds like youre a doorman or security... your last fight? lol youre expecting more i assume... maybe upgrade your charm abilities lol.. art of fighting without fighting will save you more... but good luck to you in your next fight
@@andytang8679 exactly right. In my line of work fighting is inevitable. So martial arts channels like this can be useful. Especially this guy. Most martial arts instructors havent REALLY fought much, but you can tell this guy has, or at least has seen quite a few. His teaching lines up with my real life experience. Because even before security work i used to fight a lot, just because i have a take no crap from anyone type of personality... in fact for me its down in my core. Cant get it out of me
@@worldtraveler8613, No. He never had any fights in his life before. He mentioned it on an interview with Jerry from Fight Commentary Breakdown. He teaches Wing Chun as a conceptual art. If you want to learn how to fight, he will simply ask his friend who does MMA to teach you. Adam is a humble and honest guy.
@@lionsden4563 well i work night club security so fighting is part of the job lol. But he seems to know the things that happen in real fights. So good on him.
You work on technique first though before you work on the attributes, because without technique, attributes are only gonna help you but so much and the reality is, as you get older you won't have the same speed you had when you were young, and if all you rely on is attributes, you'll eventually lose if the technique isn't there. So I understand where you're coming from, but technique is still the foundation. And this is coming from someone who's been practicing Bruce's fighting system the last 10 years.
I think there might be a slight disparity in the use of the word "technique". I think Adam was referring to technique as "choice of movement" and it sounded like you were referring "coordination of the movement". Adam mentioned coordination as one of the attributes.
I agree 1000 percent. No amount of technical mastery is gonna help a guy that weighs 135 lbs fight off a guy the size of a pro strongman competitor. But thankfully they invented guns lol
Kung Fu is So much more than " just " kicking and punching! You can know techniques..but if your cardio only lasts 2 min.. your unlikely to win a 3min fight 😉
I already had very high respect for this channel and it skyrocketed with this video.
So smart. What a great instructor
Only those who've really been involved in Real life combat/fights
Will grasp this idea
I teach my students the same things.
Good job
Soooo true, Adam Sifu....when the attributes are there, nothing really matters. Height, weight, power, speed, accuracy and timing....no one can really argue with physics. What's faster, hits first, what's heavier delivers harder impact, what's taller usually controls distance better and so on.
Thank you so much for your amazing contributions. I love WC but have never practiced before. I do a bit of Karate and getting ready for my shodan. But when i get that, I'll step down and try WC. I owe that to myself.
Meanwhile, I'll stick to listening to your lessons and paying attention to what you teach.
Xièxiè, Sifu.
David
This teacher is honest and down to earth.
Amen Adam. I've developed a lot of attributes from learning techniques and practicing them, particularly T'ai-Chi. I have not been in a fight as an adult, but I have used my attributes many many times in daily life to good effect. One time I saved a guy's ass in a bar and he barely even knew that I did it. He was a taller older guy, overweight and he'd had a few...he was taking pictures of the band that was playing and he was actually looking through the viewfinder not at the little screen so his SA was very low...I watched him with a careful eye and when I saw him stumble, I began to slip off my stool...as he began to fall, I moved a little faster...when I saw that he had zero control and was holding tight to that camera, I moved even faster...by the time I got to him he was nearly horizontal and falling towards a maze of chair legs and sharp table edges. I got to him and immediately glued my center to his and using my legs righted him and sent him back on his way. In the 5 seconds or so that this took, I used situational awareness, agility, speed, and speed adjustment, leg strength, distance management, coordination, physics and timing...all things I learned from TC forms and drills and yet nothing I did resembled in the slightest any movement or posture from the form. I was very happy that my body put together the right combination of attributes to save this guy and all of us really because he was heading for a broken wrist at the least and that would have brought everyone's enjoyment of the music to a screeching halt. Keep up the great work! GB
Dead on as usual brother! One of the major reasons i always recommend your videos to my students! Its nice to have someone else say the same things with different explanations! Thank you keep up the great work!
Very insightful 🤓 and direct. 🙏🏼 Thank you.
One of my old teachers (a Pentjak Silat player) always says the "purpose of drills is to build skills and attributes." He also emphasized principles over techniques. That being said, the only thing I would add to your very fine lesson (attributes and context) is the importance of teaching principles behind the techniques. Good stuff, SiFu Chan, as always. Thank you for sharing!
@M A T LOL You apparently don’t know the difference between the two. I’ll gladly educate you. Principles are rules derived from concepts. Examples: “Protect the centerline.” “Receive what comes, follow what goes, hit when the line is clear.” Simultaneously attack and defend.” These are Wing Chun principles, not concepts. I recommend tightening up your vocabulary if you’re going to flex your limited knowledge on someone.
You guys seem to have the exact same concepts of what Wing Chun is all about -- or is that considered principles? Hmmmm! 😂😝😂😆
Oh, man! This is great! You're my new favorite! Great video, great philosophy!
This has got to be the best video I've ever seen you make plain simple to the point realism
This is why i spend so much time in the gym lifting weights. Strength has helped me soooo much in fights. Attributes. Why do warrior monks spend more time training strength and conditioning than techniques? Attributes. This is a truth no martial arts instructor will say. Thats why i love this channel.
Speed and power is Important. With power and no speed it's pretty much useful but ur gonna be stiff and slow like hell
@@boyjuice3414 I think it still applies. Even if everything is more telegraphed, it's very difficult to efficiently block a punch from a super strong guy. You may be able to dodge a lot of them but once it lands, you are in big trouble.
@@_rami_745 in WC you're taught not to "block," but redirect their energy elsewhere while striking simultaneously.
@@xdgxedge9294 True, but still applies. Even if you redirect, you use more energy to redirect that punch, and your hits will have less impact. In the end like Chan Sifu said, it's all about overall attributes.
@@_rami_745 my strategy against a bigger guy is to never let him grab me (yes i fight for a living)... a guy that outweighs you by 100 lbs, there is nothing you can do once he grabs you unless you can grab his groin or get to his throat or eyes. I stay on the outside at all costs. But due to a gym rat lifestyle im stronger than most guys my size or a little bigger. Guys.... LIFT WEIGHTS
I work on footwork the most , I already know I can defend myself , i have had too many times over my lifetime i used to pride myself on the damage I could take and keep coming , which defeats the whole purpose of my training lol now abit wiser I know I can hit hard ,fast and accurately , getting slashed really changed my whole philosophy on martial arts and self defense avoid at all costs been to prison several times because of street fighting , so in the present moment I avoid fighting in the street, although I have had a few incidents where I let ego control fortunate for me I didn't end in prison again , btw I've been free now for 10 years which is the longest stretch of my life , thru treatment I have changed alot of stuff , and still try too be my best self , be safe and train hard everyone
This is the most realistic explanation of fighting I have seen on RUclips
Great context! I consistently speak to others about the attributes. Yes techniques are functional but how effective the techniques are falls on attributes, in other words how it's executed in a fight. Precision, speed, timing, balance etc. That is what will make the difference. Again great important video!
this is a great video. well done and well said
Adam, great advice!!! This is spot on stuff. Have you heard of Jeff Thompson or Peter Consterdine? They echo pretty much exactly what you’re saying about real self defense not being a consensual fight. And in terms of the attribute development, Iain Abernethy has got some great stuff on that from a Karate prospective, again, echoing what you said here. Thanks for all the insightful Wing Chun tips! I hope to train with you one day.
Even though the point of view is from Wing Chun, this will help me better understand my Bajiquan techniques and forms practices
hell yeah man ont the point. im training wing chun too and boxing and nobody on the street stands there with guard position only in training or duels karate vs wing chun ect. but on street there is suprising attack or discussion and then attack.
I think the best is to learn few techniques but from different positions, angles and speed.
Master Chan and sifu Chris. Great lessons. Good laughs. Great philosophy. Amen brother.
Hello sifu adam. Im from the philippines & i like your teachings in wingchun at kung report. I always watch your teachings at youtube. Sifu adam can you go & teach a little slower so that we could catch-up of your teachings because you always go lightning speed thats why sometimes we can't catch-up in your teachings. Better go a little slower so we could see & could catch -up in your teachings. Thank you sifu adam. God bless & more power to your program.
Slowing the video down to 0.75 speed helps. LOL.
Great explanation and I agree with the attributes. My Shifu emphasizes the same thing. Thank you sir.
I like the way you explained things.
In my experience techniques are most important when it comes to grappling scenarios. If you're caught in a choke or headlock you need technique to escape. Attributes such as distance, footwork, bone density and timing are crucial for striking success.
Adam covers this at the 6 minute mark. Technique still won't matter if the attributes are vastly different. Case in point: skinny woman versus... Dwayne Johnson in grappling. Once attributes are fairly close, technique will make the difference.
Also, attributes are usually defined as strength, speed, endurance/vitality, agility, and maybe will power/mindset/confidence. Not so much the distance/footwork/timing. Bone density could be one though... Sounds like a video game thing but... that's where video games basically get them from.
All points taken,.. I will co-sign-sign this😄. Thanks for the input.
Lot of Richard dimitri senshido there. Concepts applied very well
Nice Video.
Excellent, Master! Now I understand! Techniques don't matter if you don't the skills, or as you said so aptly, attributes, then it doesn't matter if you know the techniques, they won't be successful!
This is a great video, Thanksss My Friend 🙏🏼
Aaaaannnndd if you are getting older you tend to loose a bit of your attributes then you can go to refine your technique
Brilliant Adam. It seems like you read some shitty comments on RUclips. Well, there are many people who avidly watch your channel as you are so knowledgeable and can do it at such a high level. Don't just listen to the keyboard ninjas.
Further I see distancing sensitivity and strength etc also as technique
I didn't have training partner and equipments what can I do?
Right on the money bro thanks for the message 🙏
Adam, I would be really interested to see some JKD techniques that are different compared to wing chun. I don’t know if you know any JKD but I assume you do. Any chance of showing some in a video? Would really like to see this.
Thanks man
Here's a link to a old JKD video of his ruclips.net/video/ZtAxnaeuCbI/видео.html
@@flag1090 thank for the link. I’ve seen this video. I was hopin maybe he might make another more in depth one.
@@axelstone3131 Your welcome. I think that he is more focused on getting members for his 40 week class than promoting anything outside of his own classes. I'm sure that you will find tips in his 40 week class to help you with your JKD and any other martial art.
@@axelstone3131 Here's another guy in the U.K. Emil. ruclips.net/video/ZpmpmFJ0GCQ/видео.html
He does Ving Tsun & J.K.D. He has great visuals but doesn't explain the technical aspects as well as Adam does.
@@flag1090 I’m actually seriously considering signing up for his wing chun program but I’m just not sure yet
Are there ways to train timing and sensetivity solo?
How can I do chi sao without a partner?
Again, very good point that most people forget: your success in martial arts is a combination of athleticism and technique. Someone with extremely high levels in these "attributes" doesn't even have to use that good of form or technique against an average opponent and they know it. I've seen this in high level boxers, grapplers, fencers, etc. Whether you believe in it or not, I like the story of the Shaolin temple. Supposedly everyone was weak and sickly before Bodhidharma came and gave them explanations on how to train for health and to protect themselves. After years of almost nothing but meditating and training, they were seen as almost super human because of their strength compared to the average person of the time. In fact, many of the "techniques" of Shaolin today are merely training methods to strengthen one particular part of the body like "100 step punching", "iron palm", etc.
So true. "I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10000 times". Bruce Lee
Master Yang Jwing Ming from Zhong He Chuan ( Ancestral Crane ) use to say that Courage is the first attribute, then Strengh and only third, Technique because if you're not courageus, obviously, your fighting spirit is weak and you won't be able to face a real aggressor, Second, even a non trained people who is really strong can defeat a skilled but weak opponent, the martial techniques are only important in the case you're facing somebody who is as strong as you are.
Well said
Hey, what's that intro song call?
The last fight i got in, the guy came at me with his guard up like he was gonna hit me... once he moved in range i just hit him first. But watching this video im remembering i never put my guard up. I just hit the guy.
wow sounds like youre a doorman or security... your last fight? lol youre expecting more i assume... maybe upgrade your charm abilities lol.. art of fighting without fighting will save you more... but good luck to you in your next fight
@@andytang8679 exactly right. In my line of work fighting is inevitable. So martial arts channels like this can be useful. Especially this guy. Most martial arts instructors havent REALLY fought much, but you can tell this guy has, or at least has seen quite a few. His teaching lines up with my real life experience. Because even before security work i used to fight a lot, just because i have a take no crap from anyone type of personality... in fact for me its down in my core. Cant get it out of me
@@worldtraveler8613,
No. He never had any fights in his life before. He mentioned it on an interview with Jerry from Fight Commentary Breakdown. He teaches Wing Chun as a conceptual art. If you want to learn how to fight, he will simply ask his friend who does MMA to teach you. Adam is a humble and honest guy.
@@lionsden4563 well i work night club security so fighting is part of the job lol. But he seems to know the things that happen in real fights. So good on him.
"The techniques are not important".
I've been telling people this for 10 years and even now they are still arguing about it.
Attributes are what matter... Thats why the six gun was made, the great equalizer.
As I understand it, techniques are used to reference Concepts,,,,the concept is the thing.
As usual- U R Correct!! MW
So essentially it is about having a balance with techniques and attributes
Good point!!! Thanks for cutting through the RUclips BS!
You work on technique first though before you work on the attributes, because without technique, attributes are only gonna help you but so much and the reality is, as you get older you won't have the same speed you had when you were young, and if all you rely on is attributes, you'll eventually lose if the technique isn't there. So I understand where you're coming from, but technique is still the foundation. And this is coming from someone who's been practicing Bruce's fighting system the last 10 years.
I think there might be a slight disparity in the use of the word "technique". I think Adam was referring to technique as "choice of movement" and it sounded like you were referring "coordination of the movement". Adam mentioned coordination as one of the attributes.
Hey youtube, we really need a "Love" button.
WORD!
Attributes are your tools.... any weapon....... not being disrespectful. But... why hit your thighs before all your strikes. Is it your trigger ?
I agree 1000 percent. No amount of technical mastery is gonna help a guy that weighs 135 lbs fight off a guy the size of a pro strongman competitor. But thankfully they invented guns lol
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Kung Fu is So much more than " just " kicking and punching! You can know techniques..but if your cardio only lasts 2 min.. your unlikely to win a 3min fight 😉
Second!
I am more afraid of the fighter that trains one kick 500 times than 500 kicks one time....think about it
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If people speaks truth they will have less views😅...nobody care about real deal...but they do care for fancy stuffs
You can spend a years to get better your attributes to get better you Wing Chun, or you can get evil rottweiler.
BS... meh ...
BS