wow thanks for doing all that, I was getting lost in a good way going through everything on there. I'm sure I missed a lot but it seems like there are a ton of versions and side stories
@@MetaNerdzLore You did a great job. It's pretty accurate. The only thing that stood out to me was saying Sun Wukong's staff weighs "13,500 lbs." The original actually says "13,500 jin," which is roughly 17,560 lbs.
@@ghostexorcistI love your blog! Any plans on doing an article on the accuracies/thoughts on the game’s liberties in Black Myth Wukong’s story? There are tons of interesting stuff to discuss, like Bajie’s height and Red Boy’s story being expanded into the Yakasha and Child-Bearing plotline, I’d love to hear your thoughts on them!
@@SonarHD AI art is so iffy sometimes. Sometimes it can create something really cool. But at other times it looks like shit smeared in piss, thrown at a wall and just smothered all over the place.
I took a school trip to an art museum as a kid and they had an exhibit showcasing this story. It stuck with me at a young age, the artistry and imagrery were so clearly the inspiration for the major anime and eastern inspired media I already loved. Thank you for making this. Love all of your work
In Chinese mythology, the Fire God Zhu Rong and the Water God Gong Gong engaged in a fierce battle due to unresolved conflicts. During their fight, Gong Gong struck the celestial pillar, causing it to collapse. This left a gaping hole in the sky, unleashing catastrophic floods upon the earth (similar great floods are recorded in many ancient civilizations). To save the world, the Mother Goddess Nuwa-creator of humanity-refined multicolored stones to mend the sky, sacrificing herself in the process. Among these stones, one was left unused. Over countless ages, this multicolored stone absorbed the essence of heaven and earth, ultimately giving birth to Sun Wukong.
There is a 1970s Japanese TV show that was dubbed into English in the UK and only screened in Australia as it was free that is still well known now. They remake the movie every couple of years in China, it would be like having two Lord of the Rings movies competing with each other and they 100% did it. Is a bunch of TV series too. Stephen Chow had a couple of goes at it even Jackie Chan was in one!
@@cheriecheng3414 Unless you are implying that Japanese people can't adapt it because they are not Chinese, then highlighting that it's Chinese is pointless.
@@HakuYuki001 This person brings up Japanese TV and then said China “remake it”, sounds very confusing as if Japanese is the original one. I’m trying to be clear to point it out which one is original. Unless you don’t want people to know which one is original, your whole sentence is crap.
@@HakuYuki001 I conveyed a message to people who don’t have the knowledge. How can it be pointless? Are you trying to imply those who never heard about Chinese novel Journey to the West before are not human so my message is pointless? OMG. Can’t believe it.
In the worlds before Monkey, primal chaos reigned. Heaven sought order. But the phoenix can fly only when its feathers are grown. The four worlds formed again and yet again, As endless aeons wheeled and passed. Time and the pure essences of Heaven, the moisture of the Earth, the powers of the sun and the moon All worked upon a certain rock, old as creation. And it became magically fertile. That first egg was named "Thought". Tathagata Buddha, the Father Buddha, said, "With our thoughts, we make the world." Elemental forces caused the egg to hatch. From it then came a stone monkey. The nature of Monkey was irrepressible!
Wow! It kinda felt a bit boring 3/4 through, but is an absolute beautiful story. I felt his evolution from being as he was at first to a Buddha level being. Indeed it's inspiring.
The novel is from the 1500s so it’s even older than 400 years and the idea of Sun Wukong predates the novel itself. China may actually have been the best country at preserving its myths. There are pieces missing and biases aplenty in Greek, Roman, and Norse mythology. India kept a lot of Hinduism’s stories, but you have to remember that Hinduism has still been actively practiced in India this whole time, so it’s less of a mythology and more of a living religion.
thanks very much man! Took me five tries to find something accurate and also not completely AI generated. Must have taken ages to gather all the art and other images - kudos!
Loved the way you stuck pretty close till you get to chapter 15, but then you went turbo and condensed/skip through the remaining 85 chapters….. the 81 trials were really the meat and crux of the journey to the west.
I actually enjoyed this video it's nice to see you branching out into other lore and mythologies. Perhaps you can do a video on the world serpent from Norths mythologies
What a great story! Thank you so much for this video! It's absolutely amazing hearing a story from thousands of years ago, and seeing accompanying scrolls and artwork. The human imagination is amazing! Thanks again! 😃👍
The life and folkfore story about Sun Wukong is far more than just a game. In the whole story, if you look at the whole picture. The Monkey King (Sun WuKong) is the transition alike to our life at the young age till the age of 20's whereby we are still having a lot of energy to battle for a better life. The Piggy (Zhu Bajie) is the transition of among all into adulthood whereby we are in the process of maturity experiencing lust, greed, addiction and being unable to justify appropriately. The Zhang Wuji represent as we are at age over 50's we are less to be involve into the game of life which everyone is always being lied about. And being protective to survive as much as possible. The Great Monk Tang (Tang ShanZang) is whereby a person throughout the journey who practice preserverance and achieved known as Tripitaka Buddha in the end.
Thanks for doing this video. Still confused on some stuff, like they start to do the pilgramage twice, but first failed, and the new characters introduced was very very confusing, can´t imagine how hard the research for that was, so kudos to that.
Crazy how everything at the end of each story is nonchalant and everybody goes their own way, after revealing that problems started was due to pettiness lol
I'm really starting to think that most Chinese deities are just assholes how the hell is monkey supposed to know that piggy and Sandy and the Dragon are supposed to go on the freaking Journey with him
most gods in most mythologies are asshole, especially the “father” god in most pantheons. zeus was an incredibly huge asshole, the shit he did was just as bad.
Title should be the "Whole" Story instead of "Real" but I guess one would get more clicks. The real story is all over RUclips. However, you add A'LOT (STAGGERING) amount of intricate details that many others don't. Like the wind carving the egg into the shape of a stone monkey, the rays of gold that shot from his eyes, etc... P.S. also "every anime you can think of" a fairly large, even extreme, exaggeration... unless every anime you have seen involves mainstream shonen jump e.g. One Piece, DBZ... Someone can probably draw comparisons to how Angel Beats, Monogatari series, Read or Die, Cowboy bebop, Conan, Ghost in the Shell, Spice and Wolf (I could go on for MUCH longer but no) etc etc...all somehow draw from this myth and try to prove it, but why go that far. Either way, Time well spent, I enjoyed listening while playing Black Myth.
By “all of shonen” it means the basic premise of most shonen. Powerful mc, gets stronger over the course of story. Usually challenges some sort of authority. Crude protagonist (sometimes). Big, badass fights. So i would say journey to the west in its structure kind of inspired a lot of battle series… although the story is bit more episodic than most shonen. And the focus isnt on action.
Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism). Dont associate it with India Buddhism. There is a huge difference between the two. Chinese Buddhism is 3 religious combinations 1 . 三教合一 . ( 道Taoism+儒Confucianism+釋Buddhism ). China retains the content of the Buddhist scriptures. Simple Indian Buddhist ? ancient Chinese do not accept it "Taoism" has formed Chinese culture and Chinese philosophy. (Heaven) "Confucianism" regulates the moral concepts and etiquette of the Chinese. (Human world) "Buddhism" affects the concept of life and death of the Chinese. (hell) From its inception, " Chinese Buddhism" has been influenced by native Chinese religions and philosophy, especially Confucianism and Taoism, but also Chinese folk religion. Before the emergence of Buddhism, the Chinese did not have the concept of hell. So when the Chinese described hell, they would quote Buddhism. In Chinese Buddhism, all Buddhas are Chinese. Otherwise, the ancient Chinese would not have accepted it. Initially, the ancient Chinese very much rejected Buddhism (which seriously violated the culture and spirit of Taoism and Confucianism. Cutting off hair and being irresponsible to family and work Responsibility). Some interest groups promoted Buddhism in China. Add a lot of Taoist and Confucian culture. Radically transform Buddhism into a Chinese religion. (preserve the content of Buddhist scriptures). Let the ancient Chinese believe that Buddhism is a Chinese religion. Only then can they accept Buddhism. * The only job of ancient Chinese monks was to save the souls of the dead. All Chinese Buddhas and styles are Chinese in China. Their appearance, clothing and culture are all changed to Chinese (or Taoist gods). Some use the same phonetic name. Represent the same function or incarnation. In Chinese Buddhism, everything non-Chinese is excluded (except for the words in Buddhist scriptures). In Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism), anyone as long as anyone opens wisdom (let go of desire). He can become Buddha. There is a saying in China: " 放下屠刀立地成佛 A butcher becomes a Buddha the moment he drops his cleaver. "人人都是佛 Everyone is a Buddha. 滿街都是聖人The streets are full of saints.". In history, many ancient Chinese have become Buddhas. So many Buddha statues of different images in China are those ancient Chinese (most of them are monks).
Crazy after all that they name it after some Indian guy. I know what you mean, but I also know that you are trying to ignore the fact it is influenced by the Indian Buddhism at some level. Kind of in the name Buddhism. Reminds me of European ethnocentric Christian types that don't like the Jewish origin of Jesus, and do rightly point out how some Germanic merging of native and Christian concepts created a new thing, but it is silly to ignore the fact that they still use the name Christ, and the Chinese call it a type Buddhism. Just go all the way and say Siddhartha was actually Chinese, and Jesus was from an Aryan settlement.
@@MetaNerdzLore Buddha is not a god. It is a concept. The ancient Chinese did not accept any gods and India Buddhas at all. This is why the Buddhas in China all look Chinese. The Buddhas in China are all Chinese. They have their own Chinese stories. Their parents Even Taoist gods. They live in Heaven (Taoist palace). In Chinese Buddhism, Buddhas are made by people through practice. They are Chinese themselves, Buddhas not gods (Chinese gods refer to Taoist gods). So anyone can become a Buddhas. The biggest characteristic of Chinese Buddhism is that it must completely exclude foreign races and cultures (for example: India). It must be completely Sinicized (only Buddhist scriptures are retained). It must be comprehensively transformed with Chinese philosophy and culture before it can be accepted by the Chinese. This is the most basic. The Chinese have their own concept of Buddhism (other countries and nations also have different ideas about Buddhism). Please do not impose your own ideas on Indians.Because in ancient times (about 500 year), when Buddhism came to China, Buddhism was concepts have completely changed. by China Taoist and the Chinese from the very beginning.
Why is it called Chinese Buddhism, why is the term Buddhism used at all? Why does nobody say that Confuciusism and Taoism come from India? Again, I can do everything you did with Christian Norse Vikings or even Native Americans, who can find a way to say their culture had the Christ and we can all be Christ, but I would think it odd for someone to say that a Navajo Christian church has no connection to the jew Jesus of Nazareth. Don't get caught up in that some say jesus is literally the same as father God creator, just see him the same as buddha, because u know there are buddha sects that have him in the role of God as well. I'm not saying Chinese Buddhism is identical or without Chinese cultural influence, but you are being obtuse, obviously it is influenced by India even if only in name and general concept. And knowing that there is a history of stereotype of Chinese looking down on Indians, it reminds me of Aryans that want to say Jesus wasn't Jewish. You also have to know there are many different types of Buddhism from seeming fully atheist to having gods and super powers. So of course it is different in China. It is different in India just miles apart.
@@MetaNerdzLore Jesus wore Jewish clothes. The story is in Israel. His parents are also Jews. The background of the story is also in Israel and other places. Europe has also been affected by religion and wars have occurred in the country. Jesus was clearly a Jew (Catholic/ Christianity still has a lot of original European content). But the situation of Chinese Buddhism is completely different. The characteristic of Chinese Buddhism is that it particularly excludes India (or Different cultures). Chinese Buddhism mainly retains Buddhist scriptures and contents (A large number of Buddhist stories are Chinese original in China). But for the ancient Chinese to accept Buddhism, Buddhism must be completely Sinicized. Some China Buddhists will quote the names and positions of Indian Buddhas (such as protectors or gods of hell, etc.). It means that this Chinese person has studied Buddhist scriptures and achieved certain achievements. He is named as having certain characteristics of Buddha. Other creations of new Buddhas are the ancient Chinese peoples. Anyone can become a Buddha in China. Chinese Buddhas are all Chinese (Chinese appearance and clothing). Even though their (Guanyin . hell king. 4 Guardian) concept comes from the job names of Indian Buddhist scriptures. But their identities must be Chinese peoples (Chinese Buddhas). Their birthplace It must be in ancient China. The background of the story is also China and Taoism. Their parents are also Chinese and Taoist gods. Their teachers are also Taoist gods. They live on the sky (Taoist palace). They are governed by Taoist emperors. They must obey Taoism. Rules. Their statue are placed in Taoist temple buildings. There are also stone carvings of Taoist gods on the roof. The monks clothing is also Chinese Hanfu (Taoist style). All Chinese Buddhist stories they create must have Taoist and Confucian educational content (which cannot be violated). Monks are also subject to Chinese official control and follow orders. In war, they(part) also have to become soldiers and go to the battlefield to kill the enemy and work for the deceased, etc. They are not free. ---------------------------- Before the emergence of Buddhism, the Chinese did not have the concept of hell. So when the Chinese described hell, they would quote Buddhism. "Taoism" has formed Chinese culture and Chinese philosophy. (Heaven) "Confucianism" regulates the moral concepts and etiquette of the Chinese. (Human world) "Buddhism" affects the concept of life and death of the Chinese. (hell) Buddhism is hell. The concept of Buddhism (Birth , death, reincarnation , hell). It has influence on the Chinese people thinking. It also affects their creative works (join hell idea). --------------------------- In Journey to the West story 西遊記. Chinese Buddhism is heaven (placed in the sky of Taoism) . There is a huge difference between them. Chinese completely transformed and beautified Buddhism. It was placed in the sky of Taoism. It became a minor god under the rule of the Jade Emperor . This is why the Chinese Buddha appears in in the sky. From ancient times to the present. China is not controlled by religion. The Chinese emperor himself believes in Taoism (the pursuit of health and immortality). Even the content of the Chinese official examination is Taoist culture. Buddhist organizations (interest groups) mainly penetrate and brainwash Chinese civilians. Before the mid-19th century, most Chinese people did not know that Buddhism came from other countries. Chinese don’t care much about Sakyamuni and Bodhidharma. Because when they preached in China, they first brainwashed the Chinese to believe that Buddhism (a mixture of Taoism and Confucianism) is China’s native religion. 99% of Chinese civilians don’t know them. . Even if the monks knew it, as time went by, they didn’t care. On the contrary. Since Starting from the Tang Dynasty, Chinese officials carried out many large-scale exterminations of Buddhism (they also carried out extermination of Buddhism in Japan). The extermination of Buddhism continued until the 19th century. Search : < Four Buddhist Persecutions in China >
Maybe my brain is just rotted, but every time I look into mythology for context on something, it's meandering, full of redundant details and characters, and just so full of random things happening for no clear reason. It's hard to follow.
Precious merit, the grandson who percieves enlightenment, the one who eats offerings, journey to eventually become gods of heaven. This gonestly sounds like one giant allegory for persevering in human life, both whether you start oht good snd become evil, or evil and become good, and interactions with people who seem good cause of titles, but are evil, people who are evil and known to be so, people who appear evil but really are good and helpful, and people or elements of life that are just good. Definitely sounds allegorical, but who knows, these stories are very ancient and are probably based on some truth their authors pulled from
I thought this would go over the stories relevant to the game? I’m halfway through the game and learning the origins of wukong was nice but this gave me no context about the chapters involving the characters from the first half of the game
10:10 How does this give monkey the clue that the patriarch is ready to give him the secret to immortality? And why does the patriarch give it to him? Did I miss something here...
@@haotianxie6684 But out of all the possible things it could have meant how did he know it meant exactly this? He just did, or perhaps there's some more to it?
So in the game timeline, is Wukong sealed in the mountain twice? Once before being freed by Tangsang and going on the journey to the west, and again before the game where he is to be freed by the main character?
From what I gathered from playing…basically. There’s prolly more to it and I’ve yet to put the pieces fully together but I’m too busy getting my ass beat to really pay attention
?😅. It’s been the talk of town in RUclips for 2 weeks now, and gameplay videos (of any length) started to show up since the day it released, perhaps you didn’t pay attention to the game enough for RUclips to give you any recommendations.
@@ChaseYu correct, I didnt and the game title didn't interest me neither did the photo of a fucking monkey carrying a sword, so I've not seen any content, hence I want other people's opinions on the game.
@@TheCarnivorousChroniclesif you like sun wukong /Chinese mythology folk story’s you will like it for sure that or you like Characters like goku and other characters influenced by sun wukong it’s been a rpg hyped up like crazy over the years but the game is like a mix of souls and gow 2018 with combat graphics are amazing once you unlock different things there’s a lot of combos to use 1st 3 chapters you won’t have a lot yet you don’t play as wukong you play as someone related to him or some kind of rement of his soul that has to go obtain each rement of wu kongs soul before you become complete and regain ur divine powers
My favorite adaptation of Wu kong is actually a Hong Kong comedy movie called A Chinese Odyssey Part II : Cinderella with Stephen Chow as the Monkey King and Athena Chu and Karen Mok as the two women who were his love interests. Here is a clip from the movie: ruclips.net/video/dyC15G_xPM8/видео.html
Chinese Buddhism and Indian Buddhism are completely different. Even in many countries with Buddhist cultures in Southeast Asia, their Buddhist culture and content are completely different (the difference from Chinese Buddhism is also huge). India's main religion and Buddhism is antagonistic. Ancient Buddhism appeared and developed in a certain place in Asia for only a short time (not today India). But Buddhism has existed in other countries and peoples for hundreds of years. Various Buddhist cultures on the earth have India is not relevant. Indians should not fantasize about the whole world.
Tripi taka Mean 3 of pitaka Suthra pitaka( lord Buddha's told tales. Winaya pitaka( laws and the way of Buddha's teaching) Abhi dharma pitaka(Advance teachings of lord Buddha) Its not a person 😂
yeah going to be working in more of whatever I'm interested in. Views are down in SW content in general, so I'm not going to worry about being timely with the SW stuff, just covering great SW things I think are worth your time, but also branching out into a ton of other stuff like the Mass Effect and Halo. Have a xenomorph vid written, and a ton of classic sci-fi book summaries/lore I have planned
🙈🙉🙊 the story with the creation of the earth makes more sense with a geocentricity view the Earth being the center of Creation with a stationary Earth with the sun and moon circling around us like we naturally observe when you apply the heliocentric model to any creation story involving the Earth that's what makes it weird and not connect and not make sense. The Yin yang ☯️⚫⚪ is the sun and moon going around us. ☀️💫🌕.
funny part if the Chinese worship these gods, and yet the god are the villans tricking and torturing monkey just because he didnt want to obey him and they couldent beat him fairly its kinda sad and pathetic that these are "Gods"
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I'm the author of the Journey to the West Research blog. I'm happy that you found my archives of illustrations useful.
Big fan of your work
Thank you for your work.
wow thanks for doing all that, I was getting lost in a good way going through everything on there. I'm sure I missed a lot but it seems like there are a ton of versions and side stories
@@MetaNerdzLore You did a great job. It's pretty accurate. The only thing that stood out to me was saying Sun Wukong's staff weighs "13,500 lbs." The original actually says "13,500 jin," which is roughly 17,560 lbs.
@@ghostexorcistI love your blog! Any plans on doing an article on the accuracies/thoughts on the game’s liberties in Black Myth Wukong’s story? There are tons of interesting stuff to discuss, like Bajie’s height and Red Boy’s story being expanded into the Yakasha and Child-Bearing plotline, I’d love to hear your thoughts on them!
I’m glad you used traditional Chinese art instead of AI pictures. Really adds to the detail
A lot of them is Japanese
It’s a mix of old Chinese and Japanese text. Still, better than AI art.
@@SonarHD AI art is so iffy sometimes.
Sometimes it can create something really cool.
But at other times it looks like shit smeared in piss, thrown at a wall and just smothered all over the place.
@@Oscar42o their Chinese
@@michealrowe8561 Some are Japanese, wtf are you on about.
I took a school trip to an art museum as a kid and they had an exhibit showcasing this story. It stuck with me at a young age, the artistry and imagrery were so clearly the inspiration for the major anime and eastern inspired media I already loved. Thank you for making this.
Love all of your work
In Chinese mythology, the Fire God Zhu Rong and the Water God Gong Gong engaged in a fierce battle due to unresolved conflicts. During their fight, Gong Gong struck the celestial pillar, causing it to collapse. This left a gaping hole in the sky, unleashing catastrophic floods upon the earth (similar great floods are recorded in many ancient civilizations). To save the world, the Mother Goddess Nuwa-creator of humanity-refined multicolored stones to mend the sky, sacrificing herself in the process. Among these stones, one was left unused. Over countless ages, this multicolored stone absorbed the essence of heaven and earth, ultimately giving birth to Sun Wukong.
I've always wanted to read this, but hearing it in your voice is so soothing and chill. Absolutely perfect for playing card games to.
Reject everything; return to monke
actually incredibly deep summary
To the earth again
Reject evolution; return to Adam and Eve
ive never been so drawn in and enraptured by a story before. the creativity and philosophy of this tale is really cool.
I think this is the best video about the Monkey King
Awesome mate , cheers from Australia
Can't wait to see how many dewbacks his staff weighs
Lol infinite drawbacks
When will Thanos appear?
8000 kg
Excellent video. In the UK, we watched a 70s series about the very same, well-retold.
Sun Wukong and young Kratos = Deadpool and Wolverine
Young Kratos and Sun Wukong would be a badass team up to see in a movie or a crossover game.
No
@@paytonturner1421 and no
Sun Wukong really is the Deadpool of deities
Shut up
There is a 1970s Japanese TV show that was dubbed into English in the UK and only screened in Australia as it was free that is still well known now. They remake the movie every couple of years in China, it would be like having two Lord of the Rings movies competing with each other and they 100% did it. Is a bunch of TV series too. Stephen Chow had a couple of goes at it even Jackie Chan was in one!
The Japanese TV show is nothing like the real Journey to the West, which is a Chinese novel.
@@cheriecheng3414 Unless you are implying that Japanese people can't adapt it because they are not Chinese, then highlighting that it's Chinese is pointless.
@@HakuYuki001 This person brings up Japanese TV and then said China “remake it”, sounds very confusing as if Japanese is the original one. I’m trying to be clear to point it out which one is original. Unless you don’t want people to know which one is original, your whole sentence is crap.
@@HakuYuki001 I conveyed a message to people who don’t have the knowledge. How can it be pointless? Are you trying to imply those who never heard about Chinese novel Journey to the West before are not human so my message is pointless? OMG. Can’t believe it.
If anyone is interested, RUclips Sondley has finished reading the 100 chapters of Journey to the West as an audiobook.
In the worlds before Monkey, primal chaos reigned.
Heaven sought order.
But the phoenix can fly only when its feathers are grown.
The four worlds formed again and yet again,
As endless aeons wheeled and passed.
Time and the pure essences of Heaven,
the moisture of the Earth,
the powers of the sun and the moon
All worked upon a certain rock, old as creation.
And it became magically fertile.
That first egg was named "Thought".
Tathagata Buddha, the Father Buddha, said,
"With our thoughts, we make the world."
Elemental forces caused the egg to hatch.
From it then came a stone monkey.
The nature of Monkey was irrepressible!
I still watch the old 70’s show now and again. Great story
Thank you for the beautiful retelling of the story.
I'd love to have more videos like this! Just you narrating some of the oldest fiction
Wow! It kinda felt a bit boring 3/4 through, but is an absolute beautiful story. I felt his evolution from being as he was at first to a Buddha level being. Indeed it's inspiring.
I am gonna watch this over and over again I love the story or history so much❤😍I am never going to forget this! ❤
Glad to hear it!
The novel is from the 1500s so it’s even older than 400 years and the idea of Sun Wukong predates the novel itself. China may actually have been the best country at preserving its myths. There are pieces missing and biases aplenty in Greek, Roman, and Norse mythology. India kept a lot of Hinduism’s stories, but you have to remember that Hinduism has still been actively practiced in India this whole time, so it’s less of a mythology and more of a living religion.
Sun Wukong is the chinese version of SRI HANUMAN ❤
Actually hindiusm is eternal and will again begin after Kaliyuga.
@@Klaatu6432 You’re right, my bad.
@@LordLaavineshNithianandanstop stealing
thanks very much man! Took me five tries to find something accurate and also not completely AI generated. Must have taken ages to gather all the art and other images - kudos!
Makes the game a lot better knowing this, thank you great video
I remember as a child watching a TV show inspired by the Journey to the West. Watching this was a nice blast to the past.
Dbz?
Amazing work. Thanks for sharing.
Imagine going back in time showing the creator of the monkey king blac mythh wukong
Man this is great. Like an illustrated version of the translation I'm reading right now.
MetaNerdz Lore, awesome video!
Soo happy for this vid, exactly what I was looking for
Loved the way you stuck pretty close till you get to chapter 15, but then you went turbo and condensed/skip through the remaining 85 chapters….. the 81 trials were really the meat and crux of the journey to the west.
I actually enjoyed this video it's nice to see you branching out into other lore and mythologies. Perhaps you can do a video on the world serpent from Norths mythologies
What a great story! Thank you so much for this video! It's absolutely amazing hearing a story from thousands of years ago, and seeing accompanying scrolls and artwork. The human imagination is amazing!
Thanks again! 😃👍
thanks you will like those links in the description
Love this longer "historical" kinda content!❤
I can't wait for Sun Wukong to join Kratos on His journey to the west
Or if he fought kratos then obviously monkey would win
The life and folkfore story about Sun Wukong is far more than just a game.
In the whole story, if you look at the whole picture.
The Monkey King (Sun WuKong) is the transition alike to our life at the young age till the age of 20's whereby we are still having a lot of energy to battle for a better life.
The Piggy (Zhu Bajie) is the transition of among all into adulthood whereby we are in the process of maturity experiencing lust, greed, addiction and being unable to justify appropriately.
The Zhang Wuji represent as we are at age over 50's we are less to be involve into the game of life which everyone is always being lied about. And being protective to survive as much as possible.
The Great Monk Tang (Tang ShanZang) is whereby a person throughout the journey who practice preserverance and achieved known as Tripitaka Buddha in the end.
never expected a star wars guy deep research journey to the west like this
MetaNerdz Lore, i subscribed
Great job!!
Oh yeah… this one is a banger
Amazing and comprehensive video I appreciate the research done.
You should do narration. Your voice is interesting and well suited for this kind of longer historic approach
Oooo
unexpected but a welcome one
Thanks for doing this video. Still confused on some stuff, like they start to do the pilgramage twice, but first failed, and the new characters introduced was very very confusing, can´t imagine how hard the research for that was, so kudos to that.
nah how you only got 65k views for this. this is some 10million view worthy video
Lol thank you idk like, comments and shares help besides that I am at a loss as well
The Gods: "This baby is holy and must be protected"
Xuanxang's mom: *Sends him drifting down the river alone in a basket*
It's beautiful Wukong
Thanks for the accurate explain Explaination
Thanks for story telling! like it!
Crazy how everything at the end of each story is nonchalant and everybody goes their own way, after revealing that problems started was due to pettiness lol
Thank you sir ❤
"Not playing with one's self"? Nah, I'm out 😂
Same 😂
Hey this pretty good
Wow, this is amazing & insightful. Is it possible to add english subtitles for more easier understanding of those Chinese names? 😊
Somewhere Frieza is like they gave them monkeys a damn game
Well done 👌🏻
Loved it
Nice watched it all
I'm really starting to think that most Chinese deities are just assholes how the hell is monkey supposed to know that piggy and Sandy and the Dragon are supposed to go on the freaking Journey with him
most gods in most mythologies are asshole, especially the “father” god in most pantheons. zeus was an incredibly huge asshole, the shit he did was just as bad.
so good!!!!
I'm seeing rogue bots in the comments section. Gonna need Wukong's Pluck of Many to deal with them.
This is the biological true real story of Sun Wukong The Monkey King and his true Origins is wildness beyond fiction creation amazing
i love the mythology subject! would love to see you do more classic lit 🫡
19:28 I think it might actually be the other way around. As far as I recall, one day in heaven is equivalent to one year on earth.
I was not expecting this
You skipped 85 chapters…
For real ?
@@LordLaavineshNithianandan yeah
Title should be the "Whole" Story instead of "Real" but I guess one would get more clicks. The real story is all over RUclips. However, you add A'LOT (STAGGERING) amount of intricate details that many others don't. Like the wind carving the egg into the shape of a stone monkey, the rays of gold that shot from his eyes, etc...
P.S. also "every anime you can think of" a fairly large, even extreme, exaggeration... unless every anime you have seen involves mainstream shonen jump e.g. One Piece, DBZ... Someone can probably draw comparisons to how Angel Beats, Monogatari series, Read or Die, Cowboy bebop, Conan, Ghost in the Shell, Spice and Wolf (I could go on for MUCH longer but no) etc etc...all somehow draw from this myth and try to prove it, but why go that far.
Either way, Time well spent, I enjoyed listening while playing Black Myth.
Lol thank you for the compliment and I basically agree with all your points too
By “all of shonen” it means the basic premise of most shonen. Powerful mc, gets stronger over the course of story. Usually challenges some sort of authority. Crude protagonist (sometimes). Big, badass fights.
So i would say journey to the west in its structure kind of inspired a lot of battle series… although the story is bit more episodic than most shonen. And the focus isnt on action.
I wonder what sun wukong's masters identity is? He seems so powerful and almost all knowing in magical arts
Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism). Dont associate it with India Buddhism. There is a huge difference between the two.
Chinese Buddhism is 3 religious combinations 1 . 三教合一 . ( 道Taoism+儒Confucianism+釋Buddhism ). China retains the content of the Buddhist scriptures. Simple Indian Buddhist ? ancient Chinese do not accept it
"Taoism" has formed Chinese culture and Chinese philosophy. (Heaven)
"Confucianism" regulates the moral concepts and etiquette of the Chinese. (Human world)
"Buddhism" affects the concept of life and death of the Chinese. (hell)
From its inception, " Chinese Buddhism" has been influenced by native Chinese religions and philosophy, especially Confucianism and Taoism, but also Chinese folk religion.
Before the emergence of Buddhism, the Chinese did not have the concept of hell. So when the Chinese described hell, they would quote Buddhism.
In Chinese Buddhism, all Buddhas are Chinese. Otherwise, the ancient Chinese would not have accepted it.
Initially, the ancient Chinese very much rejected Buddhism (which seriously violated the culture and spirit of Taoism and Confucianism. Cutting off hair and being irresponsible to family and work Responsibility).
Some interest groups promoted Buddhism in China. Add a lot of Taoist and Confucian culture. Radically transform Buddhism into a Chinese religion. (preserve the content of Buddhist scriptures). Let the ancient Chinese believe that Buddhism is a Chinese religion. Only then can they accept Buddhism.
* The only job of ancient Chinese monks was to save the souls of the dead.
All Chinese Buddhas and styles are Chinese in China. Their appearance, clothing and culture are all changed to Chinese (or Taoist gods). Some use the same phonetic name. Represent the same function or incarnation.
In Chinese Buddhism, everything non-Chinese is excluded (except for the words in Buddhist scriptures).
In Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism), anyone as long as anyone opens wisdom (let go of desire). He can become Buddha.
There is a saying in China: " 放下屠刀立地成佛 A butcher becomes a Buddha the moment he drops his cleaver.
"人人都是佛 Everyone is a Buddha. 滿街都是聖人The streets are full of saints.".
In history, many ancient Chinese have become Buddhas. So many Buddha statues of different images in China are those ancient Chinese (most of them are monks).
Crazy after all that they name it after some Indian guy. I know what you mean, but I also know that you are trying to ignore the fact it is influenced by the Indian Buddhism at some level. Kind of in the name Buddhism. Reminds me of European ethnocentric Christian types that don't like the Jewish origin of Jesus, and do rightly point out how some Germanic merging of native and Christian concepts created a new thing, but it is silly to ignore the fact that they still use the name Christ, and the Chinese call it a type Buddhism. Just go all the way and say Siddhartha was actually Chinese, and Jesus was from an Aryan settlement.
@@MetaNerdzLore Buddha is not a god. It is a concept. The ancient Chinese did not accept any gods and India Buddhas at all. This is why the Buddhas in China all look Chinese. The Buddhas in China are all Chinese. They have their own Chinese stories. Their parents Even Taoist gods. They live in Heaven (Taoist palace).
In Chinese Buddhism, Buddhas are made by people through practice. They are Chinese themselves, Buddhas not gods (Chinese gods refer to Taoist gods). So anyone can become a Buddhas.
The biggest characteristic of Chinese Buddhism is that it must completely exclude foreign races and cultures (for example: India). It must be completely Sinicized (only Buddhist scriptures are retained). It must be comprehensively transformed with Chinese philosophy and culture before it can be accepted by the Chinese. This is the most basic.
The Chinese have their own concept of Buddhism (other countries and nations also have different ideas about Buddhism). Please do not impose your own ideas on Indians.Because in ancient times (about 500 year), when Buddhism came to China, Buddhism was concepts have completely changed. by China Taoist and the Chinese from the very beginning.
Why is it called Chinese Buddhism, why is the term Buddhism used at all? Why does nobody say that Confuciusism and Taoism come from India? Again, I can do everything you did with Christian Norse Vikings or even Native Americans, who can find a way to say their culture had the Christ and we can all be Christ, but I would think it odd for someone to say that a Navajo Christian church has no connection to the jew Jesus of Nazareth.
Don't get caught up in that some say jesus is literally the same as father God creator, just see him the same as buddha, because u know there are buddha sects that have him in the role of God as well. I'm not saying Chinese Buddhism is identical or without Chinese cultural influence, but you are being obtuse, obviously it is influenced by India even if only in name and general concept. And knowing that there is a history of stereotype of Chinese looking down on Indians, it reminds me of Aryans that want to say Jesus wasn't Jewish.
You also have to know there are many different types of Buddhism from seeming fully atheist to having gods and super powers. So of course it is different in China. It is different in India just miles apart.
@@MetaNerdzLore Jesus wore Jewish clothes. The story is in Israel. His parents are also Jews. The background of the story is also in Israel and other places. Europe has also been affected by religion and wars have occurred in the country. Jesus was clearly a Jew (Catholic/ Christianity still has a lot of original European content).
But the situation of Chinese Buddhism is completely different. The characteristic of Chinese Buddhism is that it particularly excludes India (or Different cultures). Chinese Buddhism mainly retains Buddhist scriptures and contents (A large number of Buddhist stories are Chinese original in China).
But for the ancient Chinese to accept Buddhism, Buddhism must be completely Sinicized.
Some China Buddhists will quote the names and positions of Indian Buddhas (such as protectors or gods of hell, etc.). It means that this Chinese person has studied Buddhist scriptures and achieved certain achievements. He is named as having certain characteristics of Buddha. Other creations of new Buddhas are the ancient Chinese peoples. Anyone can become a Buddha in China.
Chinese Buddhas are all Chinese (Chinese appearance and clothing). Even though their (Guanyin . hell king. 4 Guardian) concept comes from the job names of Indian Buddhist scriptures. But their identities must be Chinese peoples (Chinese Buddhas). Their birthplace It must be in ancient China. The background of the story is also China and Taoism. Their parents are also Chinese and Taoist gods. Their teachers are also Taoist gods. They live on the sky (Taoist palace). They are governed by Taoist emperors. They must obey Taoism. Rules. Their statue are placed in Taoist temple buildings. There are also stone carvings of Taoist gods on the roof.
The monks clothing is also Chinese Hanfu (Taoist style). All Chinese Buddhist stories they create must have Taoist and Confucian educational content (which cannot be violated). Monks are also subject to Chinese official control and follow orders. In war, they(part) also have to become soldiers and go to the battlefield to kill the enemy and work for the deceased, etc. They are not free.
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Before the emergence of Buddhism, the Chinese did not have the concept of hell. So when the Chinese described hell, they would quote Buddhism.
"Taoism" has formed Chinese culture and Chinese philosophy. (Heaven)
"Confucianism" regulates the moral concepts and etiquette of the Chinese. (Human world)
"Buddhism" affects the concept of life and death of the Chinese. (hell)
Buddhism is hell. The concept of Buddhism (Birth , death, reincarnation , hell).
It has influence on the Chinese people thinking. It also affects their creative works (join hell idea).
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In Journey to the West story 西遊記. Chinese Buddhism is heaven (placed in the sky of Taoism) . There is a huge difference between them. Chinese completely transformed and beautified Buddhism. It was placed in the sky of Taoism. It became a minor god under the rule of the Jade Emperor . This is why the Chinese Buddha appears in in the sky.
From ancient times to the present. China is not controlled by religion. The Chinese emperor himself believes in Taoism (the pursuit of health and immortality). Even the content of the Chinese official examination is Taoist culture. Buddhist organizations (interest groups) mainly penetrate and brainwash Chinese civilians. Before the mid-19th century, most Chinese people did not know that Buddhism came from other countries.
Chinese don’t care much about Sakyamuni and Bodhidharma. Because when they preached in China, they first brainwashed the Chinese to believe that Buddhism (a mixture of Taoism and Confucianism) is China’s native religion. 99% of Chinese civilians don’t know them. . Even if the monks knew it, as time went by, they didn’t care.
On the contrary. Since Starting from the Tang Dynasty, Chinese officials carried out many large-scale exterminations of Buddhism (they also carried out extermination of Buddhism in Japan). The extermination of Buddhism continued until the 19th century.
Search : < Four Buddhist Persecutions in China >
This actually made me cry, beautiful story, beautiful story telling!
So does the story continue after this?
Great
whos fever dream was this inspired by
here to find out what the hype is
Maybe my brain is just rotted, but every time I look into mythology for context on something, it's meandering, full of redundant details and characters, and just so full of random things happening for no clear reason. It's hard to follow.
Precious merit, the grandson who percieves enlightenment, the one who eats offerings, journey to eventually become gods of heaven.
This gonestly sounds like one giant allegory for persevering in human life, both whether you start oht good snd become evil, or evil and become good, and interactions with people who seem good cause of titles, but are evil, people who are evil and known to be so, people who appear evil but really are good and helpful, and people or elements of life that are just good.
Definitely sounds allegorical, but who knows, these stories are very ancient and are probably based on some truth their authors pulled from
Superman + Sun Wukong = Goku...
I thought this would go over the stories relevant to the game? I’m halfway through the game and learning the origins of wukong was nice but this gave me no context about the chapters involving the characters from the first half of the game
I absolutely love Chinese mythology
10:10 How does this give monkey the clue that the patriarch is ready to give him the secret to immortality? And why does the patriarch give it to him? Did I miss something here...
Basically, it went something like the patriarch knocked Wukong’s head 3 times, so Wukong went to him at 3 am.
@@haotianxie6684 But out of all the possible things it could have meant how did he know it meant exactly this? He just did, or perhaps there's some more to it?
@@Onomatopoeia4u there's more to it
@@Onomatopoeia4u Because that was the context.
So in the game timeline, is Wukong sealed in the mountain twice? Once before being freed by Tangsang and going on the journey to the west, and again before the game where he is to be freed by the main character?
From what I gathered from playing…basically. There’s prolly more to it and I’ve yet to put the pieces fully together but I’m too busy getting my ass beat to really pay attention
Is the game any good? Ive not seen any reviews and haven't seen any gameplay 🤔
?😅. It’s been the talk of town in RUclips for 2 weeks now, and gameplay videos (of any length) started to show up since the day it released, perhaps you didn’t pay attention to the game enough for RUclips to give you any recommendations.
@@ChaseYu correct, I didnt and the game title didn't interest me neither did the photo of a fucking monkey carrying a sword, so I've not seen any content, hence I want other people's opinions on the game.
@@TheCarnivorousChroniclesif you like sun wukong /Chinese mythology folk story’s you will like it for sure that or you like Characters like goku and other characters influenced by sun wukong it’s been a rpg hyped up like crazy over the years but the game is like a mix of souls and gow 2018 with combat graphics are amazing once you unlock different things there’s a lot of combos to use 1st 3 chapters you won’t have a lot yet you don’t play as wukong you play as someone related to him or some kind of rement of his soul that has to go obtain each rement of wu kongs soul before you become complete and regain ur divine powers
For 50 bucks, it has a lot of content and replayability. It is worth giving it a try if you're not prone to rage quiting haha.
Game of the year 2024 100%
My favorite adaptation of Wu kong is actually a Hong Kong comedy movie called A Chinese Odyssey Part II : Cinderella with Stephen Chow as the Monkey King and Athena Chu and Karen Mok as the two women who were his love interests. Here is a clip from the movie: ruclips.net/video/dyC15G_xPM8/видео.html
Please do a video on god of war
Wait wukong is a real dity i tho he was friction they have temple of him wow
Did wukong ever have a wife or wives? If so who or what are their names?
Chinese Buddhism and Indian Buddhism are completely different.
Even in many countries with Buddhist cultures in Southeast Asia, their Buddhist culture and content are completely different (the difference from Chinese Buddhism is also huge).
India's main religion and Buddhism is antagonistic. Ancient Buddhism appeared and developed in a certain place in Asia for only a short time (not today India). But Buddhism has existed in other countries and peoples for hundreds of years.
Various Buddhist cultures on the earth have India is not relevant. Indians should not fantasize about the whole world.
GOKU
Tripi taka
Mean 3 of pitaka
Suthra pitaka( lord Buddha's told tales.
Winaya pitaka( laws and the way of Buddha's teaching)
Abhi dharma pitaka(Advance teachings of lord Buddha)
Its not a person 😂
Yes it is. You could google it if you wanted to check if the character was also called tripitaka.
Lore of The REAL Story of Sun Wukong | Monkey King Myth (+400 year old texts) momentum 100
Bro what’s the background music, I need it for reading
It is stock idk the name now
@@MetaNerdzLore I figured ahah, all good
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The way of silence is not for me
What in the world, from aliens to chinese mythology?
yeah going to be working in more of whatever I'm interested in. Views are down in SW content in general, so I'm not going to worry about being timely with the SW stuff, just covering great SW things I think are worth your time, but also branching out into a ton of other stuff like the Mass Effect and Halo. Have a xenomorph vid written, and a ton of classic sci-fi book summaries/lore I have planned
@@MetaNerdzLore thats amazing, if only i know what im interested in….
Do a Jesus breakdown
bro would beat goku
The magical monkey that lives among gods and mortals vs Sun Wukong?
Idkkkk I think they miggggght be the same
🙈🙉🙊 the story with the creation of the earth makes more sense with a geocentricity view the Earth being the center of Creation with a stationary Earth with the sun and moon circling around us like we naturally observe when you apply the heliocentric model to any creation story involving the Earth that's what makes it weird and not connect and not make sense. The Yin yang ☯️⚫⚪ is the sun and moon going around us.
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Could you look at Fallout Securitrons
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"born from an egg on a mountain top..."
So many Japanese edition 🫤
Japanese Goku 🤡
Chinese Wukong 🗿
funny part if the Chinese worship these gods, and yet the god are the villans tricking and torturing monkey just because he didnt want to obey him and they couldent beat him fairly its kinda sad and pathetic that these are "Gods"
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