@@l_poci_I can totally see that. But the lingo implies we’re going to find out which one is better. They literally say “let’s find out”. Was just expecting to get an opinion, that’s all.
@@michaelbedford8017 Yes, both manual-wind and automatic watches are mechanical. But in this vid we are discussing specifically the Hamilton Khaki Automatic and Khaki Mechanical, the name of their hand-wound watch
I wear a hand made miniature sundial on my wrist. It is hand carved from a single piece of beautiful quartz. It is both quartz and mechanical. However it is difficult to read at night.
Depends on which watch you like. If it’s the original military issue go mechanical to keep true to its history. All others, automatic is more convenient.
If you're wearing the watch daily, it's better to go with an automatic (or kinetic, solar, or battery-powered). But if it's a watch that you only wear once in a while, like a dress watch for formal occasions, it's better to just get a manual wind.
Well... For a tiny amount of extra time per day, you have to wind it, but its cheaper to buy, without less quality, and thinner aswell. So, I'd argue manual winding mechanical watches are better in terms of value.
My Hamilton, khaki automatic on bracelet is one of my favorites… Other than the poor Lume and the noticeable lack of anti-reflective coating. It’s an otherwise perfect watch IMO
I've got the handwound Hamilton Field Khaki watch and love it. Simple and thin. Less to go wrong. I'm expecting it will last years longer without servicing than an automatic, which will need more frequent servicing.
The mainsprings are usually the same in both; they just add the widing rotor, and braking grease inside the mainspring housing to allow it to not become over-wound and breaking. The issue comes from people overwinding the watch, because they think it needs more than it actually does.
I go for khaki quartz, Super accurate with zero quirk, Grab it and it shows you the time right on your face while the auto and mechanical shows you the watch LOL
Of Cors automatic lar 1. No need to wind - alwiz running as long u wear them 2. No need to be afraid like when the manual juice will die off n being late 3. Overwind manual watch will spoil the mvt
You don't find out! The automatic would have a more consistent spring tension and thus have a more reliable time. The hand wound watch would be fast at the height of the spring wind and slower once the spring is used up. The hand wound mechanical watch would be expected to have more day to day variation because of this.
Wind up watch always better but, winding model is irreversible when the watch case is sandblasted and scratched, therefore the standard automatic watch is better because the brush steel and polishing structure can be cleaned , I always recommend brush steel case models to those who are considering Hamilton.
What's your recommendation for a good, cheap, manual wind mechanical watch? I have a collection of automatics but always fancied a manual wind for my collection
@ChronometerCheck thank you!! Since this comment I actually found a video of yours where you mentioned the Timex Marlin and I just managed to bag a new one for £125 (so chuffed!!).
@@ChronometerCheck Hell yeah, go for a watch with the red star, a symbol of ideology which killed almost 100 mln people. If you'll find something with swastika it would be valuable addition to your collection, with less bodycount, however.
Mechanical watches are the relics of the past. Its the mechanical era where electricity was not used or minimally used, watches, cars, fountain pens, pendulum clocks etc. Everything was made from hand. Good times... everything was a bit slower. Internet and smartphones changed it all.
Auto is my default recommendation. Hand wound is a niche thing. If you're a first time buyer you might THINK winding sounds fun but the fun quickly wore off for me
Hamilton Kakhi Field Mechanical, owning one it's a cool watch with true historical roots. It's the cheapest one of my collection but it's not à cheap watch by any mean
Quartz is better, just keep a spare battery around. Perfect SHTF kinda watch, something with fiber reinforced resin, from Bertucci would be perfect. But the automatic would be a no brainer if not quartz.
Honestly a hand wind watch would be useless to me since I would never remember to wind it the automatic is where it's at for me but since I can't afford any good automatic watches I stick to higher-priced quartz watches.
Orient make good automatic watches. Some models like the Bambino and a few diving watches are right around $200. For a little more, $600-800 Tissot has some nice options as well.
Nice video. Not gravity - For a mass M with tangential speed v at radius R, the centripetal force is Fc = Mv2/R. With a period of T, the linear speed is v = 2πR/T and the centripetal force is Fc = 4π2MR/T2. You will change Fc, mass, and radius to measure the effect on the period of rotation.
Mechanical watches are better if you are not going to wear your watch everyday, automatic need movement else they go crazy, not just stop working, they don't start working when you start wearing them again.
I thought it was stupid that people always fuck up automatic manual and mechanical, some people think “automatic” MEANS mechanical because thats what is listed on watch websites but guess what? HAMILTON CALLS THIS MECHANICAL NOT MANUAL.
Thank you, that's exactly right. Manual wind and automatics are two types of mechanical watches but like you said, Hamilton calls the manual wind Khaki the Khaki Mechanical
So is it normal for an automatic watch to be a couple seconds slow a couple of hours after setting the time on it? I notice with mine after 5-6 hours or so it seems the second hand is a little slow. After overnight it may be 7-8 seconds slow.
The rotor doesn't care about gravity. It's turned by inertia. You move your arm, the rotor moves also, you stop your arm, however the rotor keeps moving.
I don't understand why Automatic has to be written on the dial., you can see it is automatic just by turning it over. It is like writing automatic transmission or manual transmission on the back of your car. And even if the back cover on the watch is solid, they can still write automatic on the back cover, instead of the dial. Other watches do the same shit. Rolex, chronometer officially certified. written on the dial. Why? just put it on the back cover.
Must’ve missed the part where we find out which is better.
Yep, obviously a clickbait guy, not worth following
There isnt one answer, it up to you to decide which is more suited to you, he gave you the advantages of each, you decide
@@l_poci_ Spot on
@@l_poci_I can totally see that. But the lingo implies we’re going to find out which one is better. They literally say “let’s find out”. Was just expecting to get an opinion, that’s all.
Fag
Automatic watches are still mechanical... I think you meant to say "automatic vs hand-winding"
That is true, however, Hamilton specifically calls their hand-wind Khaki the Khaki Mechanical
@@ChronometerCheck ok that's kind of understandable
Yes; automatics are also mechanical.
The confusion arose purely from YT being overwhelmed by people who knew F-all about watches.
@@michaelbedford8017 Yes, both manual-wind and automatic watches are mechanical. But in this vid we are discussing specifically the Hamilton Khaki Automatic and Khaki Mechanical, the name of their hand-wound watch
@@ChronometerCheck thats fucking idiotic
I wear a hand made miniature sundial on my wrist. It is hand carved from a single piece of beautiful quartz.
It is both quartz and mechanical.
However it is difficult to read at night.
I can't tell if you're joking or not. But either way that's awsome!
@@ashtongribble THE INERNET HAS REDERED YOU NUMB CONGNITIVELY.
I have a battery powered watch on rn and an automatic one coming as a graduation present. I can't wait to see how it wears!
Exciting! I hope you love it.
Depends on which watch you like. If it’s the original military issue go mechanical to keep true to its history. All others, automatic is more convenient.
I wish Hamilton will issue this in 36mm like a true reissue and 100m WR, plus brushed finish instead of the blasted finish
If you're wearing the watch daily, it's better to go with an automatic (or kinetic, solar, or battery-powered). But if it's a watch that you only wear once in a while, like a dress watch for formal occasions, it's better to just get a manual wind.
Honestly, they're both the same. Hamilton has an insane 80 hour power reserve, meaning it runs 80 hour without a winding for mechanical.
That's impressive
I own a Field Khaki Titanium with no complications. I love it's simplicity. If they had made it in manual winding, I would have bought it instead.
Lol it would weigh even less. Lord you’d never know it was on.
Well... For a tiny amount of extra time per day, you have to wind it, but its cheaper to buy, without less quality, and thinner aswell. So, I'd argue manual winding mechanical watches are better in terms of value.
My Hamilton, khaki automatic on bracelet is one of my favorites… Other than the poor Lume and the noticeable lack of anti-reflective coating. It’s an otherwise perfect watch IMO
I've got the handwound Hamilton Field Khaki watch and love it. Simple and thin. Less to go wrong. I'm expecting it will last years longer without servicing than an automatic, which will need more frequent servicing.
Do you know if, in general, the hand wound version is more accurate? or is it negligible?
@danielvalles9554 did you know that quartz watches are far more accurate and need no service at all?
@@mamadzregular battery replacement. They suck!
@@MountainRancher suck?
Dude u just need to replace it once in 10 years! And it cost you nothing!
The automatic has a higher water resistance than the manual so I went with the auto.
Internet is littered with posts, comments, reviews of the Khaki mechanical having a notoriously bad mainspring. I’d take the auto all day long.
Thanks. I did not know that.
The mainsprings are usually the same in both; they just add the widing rotor, and braking grease inside the mainspring housing to allow it to not become over-wound and breaking. The issue comes from people overwinding the watch, because they think it needs more than it actually does.
@@robertsmith470how many times should you wind for 24 hours?
Mechanical forces you to interact with your watch more. Something nostalgic about having to wind up a watch on the daily.
I go for khaki quartz,
Super accurate with zero quirk,
Grab it and it shows you the time right on your face while the auto and mechanical shows you the watch LOL
Of Cors automatic lar
1. No need to wind - alwiz running as long u wear them
2. No need to be afraid like when the manual juice will die off n being late
3. Overwind manual watch will spoil the mvt
The first one should I ever owned was a wind-up watch. I have an automatic watch now. I like them both.
Yeah they both have their pros and cons
You don't find out! The automatic would have a more consistent spring tension and thus have a more reliable time. The hand wound watch would be fast at the height of the spring wind and slower once the spring is used up. The hand wound mechanical watch would be expected to have more day to day variation because of this.
That's not necessarily true due to isochronism.
This guy knows his simple harmonic motion@@johng.6222
@@johng.6222he’s used to wind up cars
Which one better? Well... Quartz still the best... 😁 More cheaper practical, & accurate.
Where did you get that nato on the mechanical?
the nato is the default strap on that model.
Are either of these watches EMP proof?
❤ my quartz
Water resistance to one side, which watch is more durable I.e. will generally take more of a daily beating?
It’s not gravity so much. It’s impulse and momentum. An automatic watch can still technically work in space if you are moving your hands
Fair point!
Exactly
Kinetic energy.
Wind up watch always better but, winding model is irreversible when the watch case is sandblasted and scratched, therefore the standard automatic watch is better because the brush steel and polishing structure can be cleaned , I always recommend brush steel case models to those who are considering Hamilton.
I rather have the automatic ver of that Khaki Field. Seen some people overwind the manual version and broke the watch mechanism. 😅
Can the automatic version still be hand wound?
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Great concise explanation!
Thank you very much! Glad it was helpful
I like automatics as long as there is hand wind capability.
Is that an aftermarket strap on the khali auto?
where did you get the strap for the mechanical??
it's the default strap.
What's your recommendation for a good, cheap, manual wind mechanical watch? I have a collection of automatics but always fancied a manual wind for my collection
Vostok Komandirskie for around $100 or less. Might be difficult to source one unless you buy secondhand or from Amazon these days, however
@ChronometerCheck thank you!! Since this comment I actually found a video of yours where you mentioned the Timex Marlin and I just managed to bag a new one for £125 (so chuffed!!).
@@ChronometerCheck Hell yeah, go for a watch with the red star, a symbol of ideology which killed almost 100 mln people. If you'll find something with swastika it would be valuable addition to your collection, with less bodycount, however.
Mechanical watch always it makes a personal collection with the watch which result in a strange relationship with watches and their beauty
Mechanical watches are the relics of the past. Its the mechanical era where electricity was not used or minimally used, watches, cars, fountain pens, pendulum clocks etc. Everything was made from hand. Good times... everything was a bit slower. Internet and smartphones changed it all.
Auto is my default recommendation. Hand wound is a niche thing. If you're a first time buyer you might THINK winding sounds fun but the fun quickly wore off for me
For me hand/manual winding is better...more accurate than self winding
I like the mechanicals for going into the field
Much slimmer on the wrist
I don't think it matters I think it depends on number one how much u want to spend and number two how thick of a watch u want
So? Which one is it?
Give me the mechanical hamilton every day. Generally though makes sense to go auto.
What did we find out was better?
I have CITIZEN brand which was purchased 40+years back . What may be its price ? And there is a littel scratch on display
I would check on the sold listings of this watch on ebay to check
@@ChronometerCheck pls check sir
This guy is doing so many year old videos that other watch channels have done a million times 😂😂😂😂😂
what's the exact name of the Hamilton with the nato strap on, the watch itself looks amazing!
Hamilton Kakhi Field Mechanical, owning one it's a cool watch with true historical roots. It's the cheapest one of my collection but it's not à cheap watch by any mean
Hamilton Khaki Mechanical 38mm (strap is third party)
You got it buddy. Thank you
@@ChronometerCheck thanks to you all 😄
Quartz is better, just keep a spare battery around. Perfect SHTF kinda watch, something with fiber reinforced resin, from Bertucci would be perfect. But the automatic would be a no brainer if not quartz.
Yes
YES
All automatic watches are mechanical but not all mechanical watches are automatic. So, this nomenclature is not wrong IMO...
An automatic is actually a MECHANICAL self-winding watch.
Mechanical watches are either ( Automatic ) Self-winding or Hand-winding watches 😊
Yes.
Quartz watches are the best. Since they keep accurate time.
I personally prefer the mechanical watch, as you physically have to wind it makes it more personal somehow.
Quartz. Just so much easier.
What is the meaning of 21 JEWEL or 25 JEWEL sir?
Jewels are little bearings inside of the movement to reduce friction between the parts
automatic watches are powered by themselves?
Gravity is not required to wind an automatic, inertia works 👌
I like mechanical 👍 But automatic cool too👍
Pretty inaccurate watches and yet so beautiful how tiny gears make the watch works what a masterpiece
So which is better?
Mechanic
An automatic is more accurate because the mainspring holds it winding better...
Love your voice
Thanks so much!
mechanical Hamilton has a 80-hour power reserve. Wind every 3 days
Honestly a hand wind watch would be useless to me since I would never remember to wind it the automatic is where it's at for me but since I can't afford any good automatic watches I stick to higher-priced quartz watches.
Orient make good automatic watches. Some models like the Bambino and a few diving watches are right around $200. For a little more, $600-800 Tissot has some nice options as well.
Mechanical is better, it makes a pleasant micro clicking sound when you wind it
Self Winding vs Hand Winding
Automatic is more practical. Just appreciate the idea that my movement powers the watch.
Nice video. Not gravity - For a mass M with tangential speed v at radius R, the centripetal force is Fc = Mv2/R. With a period of T, the linear speed is v = 2πR/T and the centripetal force is Fc = 4π2MR/T2. You will change Fc, mass, and radius to measure the effect on the period of rotation.
Thanks! Good detailed explanation
Man, I swear everyone have the same voice now
THEY COPIED ME BRO
Mechanical is better if the power reserve lasts several days.
Solar quartz much better.
buy the quartz version and dont worry about it for two years . simple.
Mechanical watches are better if you are not going to wear your watch everyday, automatic need movement else they go crazy, not just stop working, they don't start working when you start wearing them again.
They don't go crazy . Most modern automatic watches can also be hand wound .
I thought it was stupid that people always fuck up automatic manual and mechanical, some people think “automatic” MEANS mechanical because thats what is listed on watch websites but guess what?
HAMILTON CALLS THIS MECHANICAL NOT MANUAL.
Thank you, that's exactly right. Manual wind and automatics are two types of mechanical watches but like you said, Hamilton calls the manual wind Khaki the Khaki Mechanical
some people prefer the connection of having a mechanical watch
Yup, winding it is kind of soothing
Quartz is better
Thiner
Lighter
Thing with a mechanical watch is that you can overwind it
He did not answer his question.
Eco drive
"lets find out!" didn't found anything out.
you're slow as hell
Funny thing i have automatic watches without manual winding 🤦
Yeah, it's a feature that's not in all automatics, but convenient when it is
Bro can you suggest me a good solar watch for under 900 usd for my watch collection
I have a Seiko solar chronograph that I like. It was about $275 ten years ago. I have no idea what’s available today.
For a Hamilton Khaki?
Quartz
It has a reason that the mechanical is higher priced !🤔
So is it normal for an automatic watch to be a couple seconds slow a couple of hours after setting the time on it? I notice with mine after 5-6 hours or so it seems the second hand is a little slow. After overnight it may be 7-8 seconds slow.
Both types are a PAIN when you have 8 of them...
The rotor doesn't care about gravity. It's turned by inertia.
You move your arm, the rotor moves also, you stop your arm, however the rotor keeps moving.
That is partially correct. The rotor is weighted to naturally oscillate downward and helps build inertia when self-winding
Automatic is overrated IMO. I still hand wind my automatics because I suffer from power reserve anxiety lol. I NEED to know it's full
Jesus the shine on that automatic Hamilton is shocking.
Shame Khaki Auto vs Mech are bit different, cause automatic is better, but Mechanical looks nicer 😢
Well, if you like a decorated movement hand wound mechanical every time..
Automatic watches are way better, you don't have to worry about over winding the watch
I don't understand why Automatic has to be written on the dial., you can see it is automatic just by turning it over.
It is like writing automatic transmission or manual transmission on the back of your car.
And even if the back cover on the watch is solid, they can still write automatic on the back cover, instead of the dial.
Other watches do the same shit.
Rolex, chronometer officially certified. written on the dial. Why? just put it on the back cover.
Personally love mechanical watches
You never give an opinion on which one is best
You look like Larry from Orange is the New Black 😂
I’d just go for quartz ngl
Ay
This is the interstellar watch!
Automatic is better than manual winding
It possible to oversing and damage the watch, so auto is better.
Their problem...only 50mt water resistant
Finally..we didn't find which
It's up to you, of course