@@Simon-bu4kc Sorry to break it to you but like 50% of the car community were guys that watched Initial D and realized driving and racing is more then about which car has more horsepower.
It's different in comparison with a Scandinavian flick on normal roads. In rally you make use of left foot breaking, which isn't a thing when you do Scandinavian flicks on tarmac
Hi! I'm Josie Maron and I play Mia in Need for Speed: Most Wanted, Make sure you do all of your racing in the game. On the streets, drive safely and responsibly, and wear your seatbelts.
I know it's stupid, but I feel kinda proud of myself for learning this trick naturally by just experimenting with fwd/awd cars in racing sims. Now if I just had a spare car I wasn't afraid of breaking...
Yeah, I was surprised I knew about Scandinavian flicks and trail-braking before I even knew what they were called. Shows you what sims like DiRT Rally actually teaches you!
Games help, don't let anybody tell you they don't. I was a gran turismo junky as a kid. Grew up and got into bikes, went to school, learned to wrench, and happened to land a job at a shop that organizes track days. I'm no Rossi, but by the end of the first day I was top five on the sheets. Most of the track day crowd is regulars that have been doing it for years and have way more money tied up in their bikes than my stock daily ridden 600 on worn out street tires. It's obviously different from physically doing it, but it's still experience.
Richard Head Oh, I don't know...maybe because it was an exact quote form this anime? :^) ;-D But I guess more likely your question was just a sarcastic way to tell me: "Well, no shit Sherlock!" ;-)
If I lived in NH I would be working there 5 years ago instead of using my job as a delivery driver to test myself. (You usually don't get pulled over, a tiner starts the moment you clock yourself out and clock back in, and you can go pretty hard around here thanks to it being mostly small town back roads with some highway driving)
May i suggest to add to all future videos about driving technics inside car view including steering wheel (with center line) + overlayed cam view of pedalwork? May ease understanding timing and extent of driving inputs for misc. rally maneuvers. Apart from steering wheel one of your videos i liked most was "Rally Driving Explained", exactly because of overlayed pedalwork cam, illustrating well how to use braking at various maneuvers. Outside cam view with only comments hide lot of stuff going on, especially timing.
You can always practice this on a video game with a steering wheel and then try to apply it to real life on a deserted dirt road i know its not quite the same but it dhould teach you the fundamentals of whay you need to learn
James Quinn practicing on a game console isn't even remotely like actually driving. The only thing trying to learn on a game is going to do is get your car wrecked & you possibly injured. Christ, if you're that desperate, go buy a cheap atv to practice on.
@@ROTAXD If you have the proper equipment you can get very close. Simracing can teach you more then you think. There have been a few occasions where simracers did very well in racing (e.g James Baldwin).
It will work with ABS, just not the usually aggressive ABS found in modern cars. The ABS in my Subaru has kicked in a grand total of three times, all in extremely low traction winter driving. The Subaru still allows me to lock up the tires in dirt and rain.
Yea when he said it wont work with ABS i was thinking you do realize ABS really only works on tarmac right? If your on dirt the tires will and can lock up very easily especially if full braking force is applied
James Quinn, You and the author of this video are both wrong. The point of braking is not to break traction on the front tires which would result in understeer. The point is to shift the weight off the back which would result in oversteer. So it works regardless of ABS.
I don't even know what to say here... You guys should start a race team and win a few championships. Then start building and selling full race cars and maybe open a school. Then you can get people to pay for your opinion. That'd be pretty rad.
its even said on the video, the last thing you need is wannabe's who dont understand things take practice to try it and end up hurting their cars, or worse, themselves.
This past winter my 4Runner and I had a looooot of fun in empty, snow-covered parking lots using this technique. Its all about your weight transfer and keeping that momentum going!
I have been road course driver and racer for years, and this is so counter to everything I try to do with the car!! Like YODA says, I must unlearn what I have learned before my mind allows me to try this.. Mindbending.
It's easier when you don't try to use your racing knowledge but rather view it from a weight shiftung perspective. Being a physics student might help too.
I did these back in 2003 when I was 16 in LFS demo, the damn XR GT Turbo was sometimes hard to turn enough smoothly so I had to do these all the time :D
In 2018 the Americans have discovered the Scandinavian flick!!!?? 👍 I have to say fair play for putting out this super informative video about 30 years after it became a redundant rally technique ❤️ oooohh God bless America!! Please inform our grandparents about these things called corners 😂😂😂😂😂
I remember attempting this in an open snowy field... in a Toyota Sienna minivan. The shop I work at is super dead in the winter and we got the van as trade so don’t worry we never do mischief with customer cars, and I had to the the inspection on it. That alone made me pass it for the road test section
So you had to induce the initial flick with some left foot braking an then release it for doing the quick turn in in the opposite direction. That's why It took me so long to do the damn flick on Richard Burns Rally.
What’s the best way to shift down right before the pendulum? Say coming out of a straight in 5 gear. Do we go into pendulum and shift to 1st while car is going sideway or downshift to maybe 3rd? If downshift during straight, do we heel toe?
Great question! It's a different answer than you'll get most places, but remember on a track you might see 10 corners 1000 times, in a rally you see 10,000 corners one time each so our priorities are a little different. That said, when you start out: If you're in 5th at 100mph on a straight, your 1st job is to brake hard and scrub most of that speed, your 2nd job is to initiate your pendulum and get a good line into the corner and make corrections, then your 3rd job is to shift and accelerate away. That's the safest bet. Once you get a bunch of seat time, or if you already have, you can absolutely start in 5th, brake and heel/toe into 3rd, start your pendulum, grab 2nd or 1st around the apex and hammer down. Just know that's a lot of moving pieces to juggle and make sure that if it all starts to go wrong forget about the shifting and just worry about staying on the road and making it around the corner.
Brake, heel toe down to 4th then it depends on how tight it the corner is if its a big and open use the declutch of 3rd to rotate out with less steering input then Heel toe using 2nd declutch to rotate back towards the apex If its a tight corner replace 3 with 2 and 2 with 1
Cover the handbrake. Give it a yank and stay on the throttle whenever the front pushes. :) If you start a slide, try and keep it going through the whole turn with momentum. If it comes back too early you were either too slow, got too much angle, or put in too much correction with the wheel. Snowy parking lots are good places to practice steering with the handbrake. FWD is very similar to 4WD, use that throttle.
You might keep some cars out of the ditch. I learned how to do this by almost crashing on winter roads when I was a teenager. The first time it was like I accidentally did something right but I couldn’t repeat it if I wanted to until I practiced. Thank you for the videos.
No need to hesitate, my friend. People are going to try this type of thing if they want to, regardless of whether or not your video exists. Who knows? Maybe there will be fewer cars in ditches ;)
I learned a new term today! I've seen this a lot and didn't realize.. Thanks, Wyatt! Hope to have the mulahh, in the not to distant future, to visit you all for classes. Kinda in a rally-dead zone here in VA 🙃
@@Teamoneilrally Thanks for the reply! I wasn't able to find a WV event on NASA's site for this year but I'll keep on the look out for sure. I've got a lot to learn. Only local thing I've found is SCCA DC rally events at Summit Point and somewhere else in PA for some low key fun. Just gonna send it!
So basically you turn the opposite way and induce oversteer, let the rear grip up to apply rotational torque into the corner. Then you further apply the brake to further apply rotational torque to get more rotational inertia that keeps up the rotation through the turn. This allows you to use more throttle earlier since you don't need the handbrake to get more rotation and thus can increases grip because on throttle more of the loose and less grippy surface can be removed.
Scandinavian flick. Finnish flick. This technique is taught by some countries in the Scandinavian/Nordic regions during basic driver training (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_flick) Credit to Scandinavians
You'll also find that especially in Subaru's, with the absence of a rear limited slip differential (proper differential) this technique is going to be harder to implement/control!
Usually I do this if I'm approaching a corner to fast and in order to lose some speed and sometimes increase my turning radius if i really have no time to slow down enough. At least with my car breaking induces under steer amazingly quickly and the only way to get rid of it is to pull the handbrake or hit my throttle and hope the weight of the car shifts in time.
Can it work as i tow my tractor to work tomarrow?, the old truck is great for flying on dirt roads, but silding with 7,000 lbs behide the truck..... Ill just try it on my way to work ....
I totally never got a talking to from Tim for ripping an uphill pendulum turn right behind where Wyatt is standing for most of this video at a rallycross many years ago.
Does this work on fwd cars, for example my car is a 4 banger, 3 speed auto, so curious if it's possible, I'm thinking maybe if I just drive in 2nd gear to do it Cuz I'll have enough speed
It does work with abs and traction control depending on the vehicle, only know because this is how I turn around in gravel parking lots that won't get torn up by it. (I don't wanna tear up property that isn't mine)
Great vid.... I've an old 2000 nissan primera as my daily and it understeers very easily in corners. I have became used to it but what's the cheapest way to help correct it?
@@Teamoneilrally yes they're fairly me tyres. Maybe a little more pressure could help. I've had to invest in some new bodywork panels as old rust taken a toll. I think it's a very front heavy car causing the issue. Love the videos guys...
Thanks! Hmmm if the tires are good and you really want it fixed, we would quickly just check the toe and camber in the front end and make sure things are where they should be. Could be an easy $0 fix.
OK thank you, I just want to try seeing how to correct it as with my driving style it always sound like im thraping the car when really its just a lil understeer
Alignment won't do as much on loose surfaces imho, as on tarmac. Imho best bet fighting understeer would be mass & grip transfer to front with light brake use in first half of turn.
Only if you have no idea what you're doing.... It's called a 'Scandinavian flick' & it's how rally drivers carry speed on dirt roads. Watch a few rally videos 👍
This maneuver is all about timing on brakes and steering input. I guess thats all of racing, but especially this maneuver, all has to be timed right to actually do you any good. Otherwise you will lose time or even worse, put the car off the side of the road haha.
Exactly correct. Different entry speeds, grip levels, up/down hill, FWD/AWD/RWD... Your timing is always going to be a little different. When in doubt, initiate your pendulum a little early so you have time to feel it out and make some adjustments if necessary. If you do it last-minute it's either going to work great or you'll be off the outside.
Will going sideways through your braking zone slow you down faster on a loose surface like snow or gravel? The theory being that while sideways, every wheel can dig in on its own in a separate ditch, creating more drag as opposed to braking in a straight line where effectively, just the front wheels dig in and the rear wheels follow in their tracks?
Solid question! It's really weighing out what ultimately might be a little faster VS what is highly repeatable and safer... Check out this Colin McRae in-car video, he's sideways literally every time he brakes hard and it works for him, BUT would you really want to drive a two day rally like that? ruclips.net/video/tBGzCdG3fhQ/видео.html Also sending it sideways hard on the brakes into every corner is hard on the tires, you're likely to get a flat eventually, even the suspension and control arms and everything are taking more of a beating sideways into bumps and whatnot. Colin is a good example of this, on a good day he was unstoppable, but he wrecked A LOT of cars. One little miscalculation and the party is over, compared to the guys that brake straighter, keep it tidy, and always make it to the end.
I wish I had somewhere like this close to me to practice. I wanna get into scca rallycross at some point. I already have a car I just need practice space.
@@Teamoneilrally coincidentally I actually found out about scca rallycross shortly after watching this video. My dad used to road race in the scca but I didn't know they still did any sort of rally. Last I knew they dropped stage rally due to too many fatalities.
Tried this today in my Nissan Juke rental car before watching this video. It worked, but after the turn was completed, stability control tried to pull the car into the opposite lane. Not a very effective stability control system, if it kicks in after the turn.
Second I read the title, I knew there would be at least one "Kansei Dorifto" comment within the first 5 lines down. Was not disappointed
Same here, it was worth watching the video
anime guys contaminating our car guys'es channels -_-+
kansei dorifto!?
@@Simon-bu4kc Gate keeping much?
@@Simon-bu4kc Sorry to break it to you but like 50% of the car community were guys that watched Initial D and realized driving and racing is more then about which car has more horsepower.
Scandinavian flick!
it's different technique
The first line of the description disagrees with you friend
It's different in comparison with a Scandinavian flick on normal roads. In rally you make use of left foot breaking, which isn't a thing when you do Scandinavian flicks on tarmac
Raven R Fair point, but this vid is targeted to rally and dirt.
@@Lajki Scandinavian Flick!
brb gonna go practice on the street
Gonna go practice on a busy playground
Imma go practice on a public road :)
I'm back with bloods under my car :3
Hi! I'm Josie Maron and I play Mia in Need for Speed: Most Wanted, Make sure you do all
of your racing in the game. On the streets, drive safely and responsibly, and wear your
seatbelts.
Gonna practice around a school zone
I know it's stupid, but I feel kinda proud of myself for learning this trick naturally by just experimenting with fwd/awd cars in racing sims.
Now if I just had a spare car I wasn't afraid of breaking...
same here xD. Also found out slight braking while cornering makes for better turn in.
I play assetto corsa with a keyboard(yes lol) and i realized i've been doing this for a long time
Yeah, I was surprised I knew about Scandinavian flicks and trail-braking before I even knew what they were called. Shows you what sims like DiRT Rally actually teaches you!
Games help, don't let anybody tell you they don't. I was a gran turismo junky as a kid. Grew up and got into bikes, went to school, learned to wrench, and happened to land a job at a shop that organizes track days. I'm no Rossi, but by the end of the first day I was top five on the sheets. Most of the track day crowd is regulars that have been doing it for years and have way more money tied up in their bikes than my stock daily ridden 600 on worn out street tires. It's obviously different from physically doing it, but it's still experience.
Keep to RWD
Cheaper to repair XD
Doesn't he know this road?
After this slow right there's a sharp left.
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I knew it! He's going too fast!
*N-Nani!? Pendulum Turn?*
nice.
Ok, you got me, I laughed. I got an Initial D vibe from your comment. ;)
I'd like to see technique used on the 5 hair pins.
d1oftwins really??? How did you get initial d from this??!
Richard Head
Oh, I don't know...maybe because it was an exact quote form this anime? :^) ;-D
But I guess more likely your question was just a sarcastic way to tell me: "Well, no shit Sherlock!" ;-)
Instructions not clear, parting out my subie now.
if you guys were close i'd be poor AF by now
If I lived in NH I would be working there 5 years ago instead of using my job as a delivery driver to test myself.
(You usually don't get pulled over, a tiner starts the moment you clock yourself out and clock back in, and you can go pretty hard around here thanks to it being mostly small town back roads with some highway driving)
@@Osprey1994 What delivery job do you have that requires you to drive off-road?
@@thatoneintrovert9618 My best guess is something related to とうふ
@@NerdyCatCoffeeee Does that say Tofu?
@@Someone25948 yes. In English we say Tofu, in Japanese it's Toufu, but natives don't pronounce u. So, yes. It says tofu
I've been hitting the good 'ole Scandinavian Flick on Richard Burns Rally for years now.
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thats probably the main reason why i come on here to learn how to play rbr lmao
@@RangyRs4 Cannot lie, landed here for the exact same reason lol
May i suggest to add to all future videos about driving technics inside car view including steering wheel (with center line) + overlayed cam view of pedalwork? May ease understanding timing and extent of driving inputs for misc. rally maneuvers.
Apart from steering wheel one of your videos i liked most was "Rally Driving Explained", exactly because of overlayed pedalwork cam, illustrating well how to use braking at various maneuvers. Outside cam view with only comments hide lot of stuff going on, especially timing.
You can always practice this on a video game with a steering wheel and then try to apply it to real life on a deserted dirt road i know its not quite the same but it dhould teach you the fundamentals of whay you need to learn
James Quinn practicing on a game console isn't even remotely like actually driving. The only thing trying to learn on a game is going to do is get your car wrecked & you possibly injured. Christ, if you're that desperate, go buy a cheap atv to practice on.
@@ROTAXD If you have the proper equipment you can get very close. Simracing can teach you more then you think. There have been a few occasions where simracers did very well in racing (e.g James Baldwin).
It will work with ABS, just not the usually aggressive ABS found in modern cars. The ABS in my Subaru has kicked in a grand total of three times, all in extremely low traction winter driving. The Subaru still allows me to lock up the tires in dirt and rain.
Yea when he said it wont work with ABS i was thinking you do realize ABS really only works on tarmac right? If your on dirt the tires will and can lock up very easily especially if full braking force is applied
James Quinn,
You and the author of this video are both wrong. The point of braking is not to break traction on the front tires which would result in understeer. The point is to shift the weight off the back which would result in oversteer. So it works regardless of ABS.
I don't even know what to say here... You guys should start a race team and win a few championships. Then start building and selling full race cars and maybe open a school. Then you can get people to pay for your opinion. That'd be pretty rad.
@@mikaelgaiason688 ... LMAO
tried this, ended up in a ditch. 10/10 would do again
NANI ?!?!
Atleast you don't learn from your mistakes
then practice it lmao
@@rafaelcarmo5562 Unlike some people...
N-NANI!?! KANSEI DORIFTO!!???!!!!
LOL, 86 likes...
No one sleep in TOKYO
Deja Vu 🎶
8uuuu 6uuu
[I W A N N A D A N C E]
Dude! My car's in the ditch! 🤣
Am right behind you bro
Gutter drop?
@@naveen5126 N-Nani?
Probably would get more views if it said -kansai- KANSEI DORIFTO
It's '' kansei'' .. meaning perfect drift .
its even said on the video, the last thing you need is wannabe's who dont understand things take practice to try it and end up hurting their cars, or worse, themselves.
@@msengineeringdavid3702 not 'perfect', 'inertia'.
Learn your kanji, folks.
NANI!?!?
Ahhhhhh I love Kansas Doritos
This past winter my 4Runner and I had a looooot of fun in empty, snow-covered parking lots using this technique. Its all about your weight transfer and keeping that momentum going!
I have been road course driver and racer for years, and this is so counter to everything I try to do with the car!!
Like YODA says, I must unlearn what I have learned before my mind allows me to try this..
Mindbending.
It's easier when you don't try to use your racing knowledge but rather view it from a weight shiftung perspective. Being a physics student might help too.
This actually helped me a ton on dirt rally 2.0 Thanks!
I did these back in 2003 when I was 16 in LFS demo, the damn XR GT Turbo was sometimes hard to turn enough smoothly so I had to do these all the time :D
me today, still playing lfs lol XD
In 2018 the Americans have discovered the Scandinavian flick!!!?? 👍 I have to say fair play for putting out this super informative video about 30 years after it became a redundant rally technique ❤️ oooohh God bless America!!
Please inform our grandparents about these things called corners 😂😂😂😂😂
I remember attempting this in an open snowy field... in a Toyota Sienna minivan. The shop I work at is super dead in the winter and we got the van as trade so don’t worry we never do mischief with customer cars, and I had to the the inspection on it. That alone made me pass it for the road test section
Did I see a four wheel drift??? NANI??? KANSEI DORIFTO???
Mad love for the red wagon in the background. Love your vids!
My favorite time cutting technique in Dirt, Scandinavian flick works every time on tight hairpins with narrow run ups and narrow exits.
Lots of love from Tanzania.. I love your videos they are very helpful
That's exactly the explanation of this technique I needed! The slow-mo video really cleared it up for me.
Really enjoyed the video. As someone who enjoys rally and drifting this was a very informational video, thank you.
So you had to induce the initial flick with some left foot braking an then release it for doing the quick turn in in the opposite direction. That's why It took me so long to do the damn flick on Richard Burns Rally.
My favourite turns , this is what makes Rally so cool
Man I’m addicted to watching your videos! Really rad stuff!
I love that new video quality, great job!
Solid content and explanation-thanks for the great video! Hope I can make it out to TORS some day!!
What’s the best way to shift down right before the pendulum? Say coming out of a straight in 5 gear. Do we go into pendulum and shift to 1st while car is going sideway or downshift to maybe 3rd? If downshift during straight, do we heel toe?
Great question! It's a different answer than you'll get most places, but remember on a track you might see 10 corners 1000 times, in a rally you see 10,000 corners one time each so our priorities are a little different. That said, when you start out: If you're in 5th at 100mph on a straight, your 1st job is to brake hard and scrub most of that speed, your 2nd job is to initiate your pendulum and get a good line into the corner and make corrections, then your 3rd job is to shift and accelerate away. That's the safest bet. Once you get a bunch of seat time, or if you already have, you can absolutely start in 5th, brake and heel/toe into 3rd, start your pendulum, grab 2nd or 1st around the apex and hammer down. Just know that's a lot of moving pieces to juggle and make sure that if it all starts to go wrong forget about the shifting and just worry about staying on the road and making it around the corner.
Brake, heel toe down to 4th then it depends on how tight it the corner is if its a big and open use the declutch of 3rd to rotate out with less steering input then
Heel toe using 2nd declutch to rotate back towards the apex
If its a tight corner replace 3 with 2 and 2 with 1
Any chance ye would do some fwd dirt oval tips
Cover the handbrake. Give it a yank and stay on the throttle whenever the front pushes. :) If you start a slide, try and keep it going through the whole turn with momentum. If it comes back too early you were either too slow, got too much angle, or put in too much correction with the wheel. Snowy parking lots are good places to practice steering with the handbrake. FWD is very similar to 4WD, use that throttle.
That Imperza looks awesome
You might keep some cars out of the ditch. I learned how to do this by almost crashing on winter roads when I was a teenager. The first time it was like I accidentally did something right but I couldn’t repeat it if I wanted to until I practiced.
Thank you for the videos.
Your videos are wonderful.
thanks for the information!
No need to hesitate, my friend. People are going to try this type of thing if they want to, regardless of whether or not your video exists. Who knows? Maybe there will be fewer cars in ditches ;)
Samir needs to watch this video. Shaddap!
You guys are just the best.
wow glad i found this vid. i like driving and rallies and i’m decent with a car so hey let’s learn
Love these vids
I learned a new term today! I've seen this a lot and didn't realize.. Thanks, Wyatt! Hope to have the mulahh, in the not to distant future, to visit you all for classes. Kinda in a rally-dead zone here in VA 🙃
Does NASA still do Rally West Virginia? Up at Snowshoe Mountain? That's a good one.
@@Teamoneilrally Thanks for the reply! I wasn't able to find a WV event on NASA's site for this year but I'll keep on the look out for sure. I've got a lot to learn. Only local thing I've found is SCCA DC rally events at Summit Point and somewhere else in PA for some low key fun. Just gonna send it!
I'm not saying go out and do it on normal roads, but I've had fun practicing these in a Dodge Caliber on some no maintenance roads
So basically you turn the opposite way and induce oversteer, let the rear grip up to apply rotational torque into the corner. Then you further apply the brake to further apply rotational torque to get more rotational inertia that keeps up the rotation through the turn. This allows you to use more throttle earlier since you don't need the handbrake to get more rotation and thus can increases grip because on throttle more of the loose and less grippy surface can be removed.
Good vid, btw can i use the handbrake to initiate th
why no wrx wagon that thing is fun as heck i wanted to take it home with me
Nice video and audio quality!
Great vid...drone footage. I think I need to come to some classes...
Scandinavian flick. Finnish flick.
This technique is taught by some countries in the Scandinavian/Nordic regions during basic driver training (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_flick)
Credit to Scandinavians
You'll also find that especially in Subaru's, with the absence of a rear limited slip differential (proper differential) this technique is going to be harder to implement/control!
And here I thought the scandinavian flick was a dance move like the whip and nay nay
its svarre isachsen's viking battle dance
"There's gonna be some cars in ditches after this"
Yup
We do that all the time in the snow.
Usually I do this if I'm approaching a corner to fast and in order to lose some speed and sometimes increase my turning radius if i really have no time to slow down enough. At least with my car breaking induces under steer amazingly quickly and the only way to get rid of it is to pull the handbrake or hit my throttle and hope the weight of the car shifts in time.
Hilarious intro. The 60 fps video looks incredible
I do a pendulum turn on my drift trike. Pretty much front wheel drive, but you almost never put down power
fenno scandian flick!
I wish you guys showed an inside view.. Great video.
incredible...............luv u guyz
Trail braking might be the fastest but the Scandinavian flick is the best
*NO ONE SLEEPS ON TOKYO*
... no one slips in tokyo...
Can it work as i tow my tractor to work tomarrow?, the old truck is great for flying on dirt roads, but silding with 7,000 lbs behide the truck.....
Ill just try it on my way to work ....
Always wondered the science behind it. Thank you for information, may help me in Dirt 4, but video games aren’t real life we will see.
dirt teaches you this, but this explanation is way better.
I totally never got a talking to from Tim for ripping an uphill pendulum turn right behind where Wyatt is standing for most of this video at a rallycross many years ago.
I got out the shovel and rake and cleaned up my mess...rumor has it Tim said my maneuver wasn't all that bad.
Thanks.
Don't worry I don't have my own personal dirt track to crash on so I'm good... :)
Does this work on fwd cars, for example my car is a 4 banger, 3 speed auto, so curious if it's possible, I'm thinking maybe if I just drive in 2nd gear to do it Cuz I'll have enough speed
I do this in the winter in my dodge dynasty. Surprised it never gets stuck in snow at all. Even flies through mud like nothing.
It does work with abs and traction control depending on the vehicle, only know because this is how I turn around in gravel parking lots that won't get torn up by it. (I don't wanna tear up property that isn't mine)
can you post this on tik tok or can I post it clearly saying it is your video
I should apply this to when I am playing my rally game
Takumi approved
does it somewhat different with inertia drift? °°
where's a good place to catch a rally event in the MA/NH area? can't afford to get involved myself, but i'd love to be a spectator.
The big one is New England Forest Rally every summer www.newenglandforestrally.com definitely worth the trip!
This is handy when you are on wrong side of road when entering corner.
Does this work on front wheel driver cars?
You're not kidding. The kids are all gonna try this.
They were going to try it anyway. Hopefully they will keep it on the road with some good pointers from our video.
Great vid.... I've an old 2000 nissan primera as my daily and it understeers very easily in corners. I have became used to it but what's the cheapest way to help correct it?
The cheapest / quickest way is probably tires. Does it have decent tires on it? Reasonable tire pressures? Also is your alignment ok?
@@Teamoneilrally yes they're fairly me tyres. Maybe a little more pressure could help. I've had to invest in some new bodywork panels as old rust taken a toll. I think it's a very front heavy car causing the issue. Love the videos guys...
Thanks! Hmmm if the tires are good and you really want it fixed, we would quickly just check the toe and camber in the front end and make sure things are where they should be. Could be an easy $0 fix.
OK thank you, I just want to try seeing how to correct it as with my driving style it always sound like im thraping the car when really its just a lil understeer
Alignment won't do as much on loose surfaces imho, as on tarmac. Imho best bet fighting understeer would be mass & grip transfer to front with light brake use in first half of turn.
Hopefully this will help with my crappy scandi flicks in RBR lol.
hell yeah, RBR for the win!
Is this the exact same thing as the Scandinavian Flick? And will it still work with a '17 fwd SI?
Thank you.
Yes same as Scandinavian Flick, and sure it'll work in your car! You might need to pull the ABS fuse and get Stability Control shut off that's all.
honestly this is easier for hairpins than pulling the e brake for a rear wheel drive car
plus, it's more fun
I love this -
it's true what you said in the beginning of the video, that's a good way to put your car in a ditch
damn it seems you have some experience
Only if you have no idea what you're doing....
It's called a 'Scandinavian flick' & it's how rally drivers carry speed on dirt roads.
Watch a few rally videos 👍
When is it more beneficial to do this instead of a handbrake turn?
This maneuver is all about timing on brakes and steering input. I guess thats all of racing, but especially this maneuver, all has to be timed right to actually do you any good. Otherwise you will lose time or even worse, put the car off the side of the road haha.
Exactly correct. Different entry speeds, grip levels, up/down hill, FWD/AWD/RWD... Your timing is always going to be a little different. When in doubt, initiate your pendulum a little early so you have time to feel it out and make some adjustments if necessary. If you do it last-minute it's either going to work great or you'll be off the outside.
Richard Hammond tried the ol' Scandinavian flick in a van once....ended bad
Inertia drift!
That's a Scandinavian Flick!
I was hoping to see an onboard insight of the maneuver, but great video anyway!
Is this something you could do with a stock suspension of a civilian hatchback?
Will going sideways through your braking zone slow you down faster on a loose surface like snow or gravel? The theory being that while sideways, every wheel can dig in on its own in a separate ditch, creating more drag as opposed to braking in a straight line where effectively, just the front wheels dig in and the rear wheels follow in their tracks?
Solid question! It's really weighing out what ultimately might be a little faster VS what is highly repeatable and safer... Check out this Colin McRae in-car video, he's sideways literally every time he brakes hard and it works for him, BUT would you really want to drive a two day rally like that? ruclips.net/video/tBGzCdG3fhQ/видео.html Also sending it sideways hard on the brakes into every corner is hard on the tires, you're likely to get a flat eventually, even the suspension and control arms and everything are taking more of a beating sideways into bumps and whatnot. Colin is a good example of this, on a good day he was unstoppable, but he wrecked A LOT of cars. One little miscalculation and the party is over, compared to the guys that brake straighter, keep it tidy, and always make it to the end.
I wish I had somewhere like this close to me to practice. I wanna get into scca rallycross at some point. I already have a car I just need practice space.
Do SCCA rallycross! It's great practice and pretty affordable.
@@Teamoneilrally coincidentally I actually found out about scca rallycross shortly after watching this video. My dad used to road race in the scca but I didn't know they still did any sort of rally. Last I knew they dropped stage rally due to too many fatalities.
Only ditches I'm putting my car into from this video is my Dirt 4 car. Thank you
my car will definetely be in a ditch after this vid
Fun to try on the highway in the rain while texting.
NANI?!?!!?!
*K A N S E I D O R I F T O*
Same principles as an inirtia drift. Not bad
Tried this today in my Nissan Juke rental car before watching this video. It worked, but after the turn was completed, stability control tried to pull the car into the opposite lane. Not a very effective stability control system, if it kicks in after the turn.
This is exactly what I do when it snows and i'm driving my 2WD silverado