Let's make a list of everything he did wrong: - Poured old oil back in at the end - Reinstalled old bearings (new bearings don't come wrapped in stretch foil) - Hammering those bearings on shafts could be acceptable if he made sure that piece of wood didn't contact outter sleeve (which he did not) - Hammering centering pins AFTER bolts were tightened (you are supposed to install centering pin first than tighten the bolts) - That lock nut which holds the flange is supposed to be installed with lock washer to prevent it from loosening - No assembly lube used, pretty bad for running in - All surfaces which need to seal (bearing caps, flanges etc.) should be stoned to remove any high spots or burrs - At 20:07 two more errors can be observed, first that shaft seal is in horrible condition and needs to be replaced. Second you painted the surface on the flange on which the shaft seal lip runs on. It will either not seal at all or the lip (or whats left of it) will wear out extremely fast - 2 of the 4 mounting bolt holes are broken and should have been repaired by brazing or welding on some material and machining afterwards I don't understand why you make these videos when you clearly don't understand what you are doing. Just my two cents. P.S. Sorry for bad english, not my primary language :)
Yeah, someone said on another video "It's like watching a kid repaint a broken bicycle light" There is another channel that "restores" engines by scraping off the muck and repainting them. Sure they take them apart a bit, for no reason, but they don't replace anything.
Wash the old bearings out and wrap them in shrink wrap and pretend they are new- assemble them all bone dry. Use old seals and have them riding on painted seal surfaces.
Lets not forget that missing key on one of the pulleys and just put the old oil back in at less than the right amount for a gear box. just forget about replacing seals. Painted oil seal surfaces. Wrap old bearings in plastic wrap and pretend they are new and place in Dry. My goodness. I hope no one watches this and thinks this is anywhere close to being correct.
OK job - just a few issues. 1. Grease: I would use assembly grease when putting the thing back together. 2. Gaskets: Seems like there were some metal to metal points - I would replace gaskets with something and not depend on a metal to metal seal; 3. New Bolts ? - Those first four bolts you removed holding the base to something look like new bolts someone just put dirt on. 4. Hitting Painted surfaces - It would seem a bit better solution to place a wood piece against the painted surfaces and hit the wood piece instead of banging a newly painted surface directly. 5. Bearing Installation - I do not believe I would hammer on bearings like that - need a better process for installing race bearings. 6. I think I would use chemicals (perhaps simply vinegar) to remove the rust or as much rust as possible and then a wire brush or something similar.
In my opinion, if you don't know precisely what you are restoring, what are technical specifications of it, what is function of it, what is function of all parts, what are the checks you need to carry out to determine if the part/parts meets the quality parameters or not, what is scientific / proper technical methed to repair/restore the part, what proper tools would need for restoration, what safety measures would need to take during restoration, what performance parameters such assembly needs to meet after restoration...then better get yourself aware of it before starting any repairs / restoration activity and then ensure that you follows/meets such scientific / technical practices and provides performance results as per product specification (especially when you are dealing with major assemblies like gear box or so). This will bring quality in your job as well as boost up your confidence and knowledge. Wishing you all the best.
when you opened the thing up and it looked so damn good inside I knew this was going to be a great item to restore. Sure the outside was a mess but the core was well worth saving.
Everyone of these RUclips restoration Yahoos need to get an Arbor Press. The amount of bearings and shafts that get beat on would be unacceptable by any professional work place.
Механик недоучка,покрасил старые сальники,не поменял и не смазал подшипники,в трех-пяти литровый картер залил пол-литра масла и тд и тп.А забивать подшипник ножкой от табурета- шедеврально😂👍.
No grease on the bearings or gears when reassembling and then you put half a cup of black used oil in at the end !?! It would probably have lasted longer if you had not 'restored ' it.
I know you're just making due with what you have but there were a couple things that you can do in the future to make things work better. #1 dowel pins go in before the bolts. #2 you should have cleaned the seal surface on the output flange. It was painted! The paint will wipe out the seal (that should have been replaced also) #3 I would have thoroughly oiled all the internal parts during assembly. I mean drenched the stuff. Keep going!
Watch enough of these (my mechanics, Rescue & Restore, etc.) and you learn what a good, clean restoration looks like. How things are cleaned, how they're restored, how they're reassembled. And while it's worth pointing out that that those guys seldom do things this big and that those guys have all sorts of tools and equipment for their projects, there's some techniques and eyes to detail they have that don't cost anything. This video however serves as a great example of bad restore. Bad color, bad sanding, bad restoration (too little oil and it appears used, no grease on the bearings, etc.). I'm not a mechanic or anything, but hammering gears into slanted gears just seems painfully, obviously wrong. So in that regard, I consider it a "good" video just to make me appreciate better the skill and attention to detail in others' projects.
Didn't replace the oil seal at 20:19. so it will let oil through and, in general, did not put any gaskets apart from between 2 blocks + the oil seals had to be changed
It’s a good effort my friend but you should read some of your comments left behind in order to learn about missed basic skills.. Some of us leave these comments in order for you to improve on what obviously you enjoy.. But please obtain some grease to start.. 19:48 a BIG mistake being made here👍
1 there’s this thing called grease 2 with the seals don’t paint the surfaces 3 use NEW oil and use a lot more than the shot glass thst u put in 4 hammering bearings like that will ruin them (the “new” ones you put in) and the filler job thst you put on was poor
Why do you clean and wrap the old bearings? Assemble without oil? this is a farce! Also, who taught you to hammer on the outer race of a bearing.....? What insanity to fit old damaged seals? How are you expecting the old seals to work on painted surfaces? Plus, you must first fit the locating dowels before you tighten the bolts, which each require at least a spring washer. What a waste of time reassembling like this. This is terrible workmanship!
What machine or process was it used with? What are two gear ratios? Which ratio gears had the greatest wear? Any idea on the maximum input rpm or rated kw/hp? What was shaft stub opposite the clutch lever for? Is the hole above the clutch lever shaft just a vent or breather?
I hate when thses guys put filler on top of rust to make it look good. Butures. Sandblast is the proper way to restore. Looked ugly and nasty at the end
Hhmmm... I don’t see the Restauration to be honest. It’s disassembling with hammer, cleaning, painting over rust and filler, assembling with hammer bone dry... the gears doesn’t look very healthy... anyway, there is room for improvement I guess. Editing the clip and cut is good, like it!
No me gustó como quedó, la pintura no la dejo secar y la dejo toda levantada y marcada, no me gusto el exceso de pasta que le dejó no lijo, en general no me gusta
What is this restoration? You didn't even have to disassemble it to paint it. With a hammer to the bearing - clearly the best way to mount. And do you think it will work without oil? Why use something that can't be used for anything. Wheels are spinning, but do they function? Just completely useless work.
Не понимаю, нахрена шпаклевать, красить и потом херячить молотком? Зачистил бы ржавчину и сверху банку краски вылил. Не советую смотреть, 20 минут времени в жпу...
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Нахрена шпатлевать, если ещё хуже сделал чем было. Подшипники я так понимаю старые, как и сальники. Это не реставрация, а так себе. По Русски это называется ху...ня.
Видимо в процессе реставрации автор понял, что эта вундервафля не нужна никому, включая самого автора и поэтому все сделал на отъебись. Ни сальников, ни прокладок не поставил, тупо помазал тонким слоем герметика, как в россиянских автосервисах обычно делают. За каким-то хреном подшпаклевал нормальные участки и тупо покрасил без грунтовки. Шестерни помыл водичкой, собрал ножкой от стула, залил, судя по цвету, слитое оттуда же масло, и наверное поставил под стекло в бабушкин сервант, ибо там сему девайсу самое место, как памятнику неебической рукожопости.
Kosis to ache ki apny apna camra hiil bohat raha tha
Let's make a list of everything he did wrong:
- Poured old oil back in at the end
- Reinstalled old bearings (new bearings don't come wrapped in stretch foil)
- Hammering those bearings on shafts could be acceptable if he made sure that piece of wood didn't contact outter sleeve (which he did not)
- Hammering centering pins AFTER bolts were tightened (you are supposed to install centering pin first than tighten the bolts)
- That lock nut which holds the flange is supposed to be installed with lock washer to prevent it from loosening
- No assembly lube used, pretty bad for running in
- All surfaces which need to seal (bearing caps, flanges etc.) should be stoned to remove any high spots or burrs
- At 20:07 two more errors can be observed, first that shaft seal is in horrible condition and needs to be replaced. Second you painted the surface on the flange on which the shaft seal lip runs on. It will either not seal at all or the lip (or whats left of it) will wear out extremely fast
- 2 of the 4 mounting bolt holes are broken and should have been repaired by brazing or welding on some material and machining afterwards
I don't understand why you make these videos when you clearly don't understand what you are doing. Just my two cents.
P.S. Sorry for bad english, not my primary language :)
Yeah, someone said on another video "It's like watching a kid repaint a broken bicycle light"
There is another channel that "restores" engines by scraping off the muck and repainting them.
Sure they take them apart a bit, for no reason, but they don't replace anything.
It’s great not having to listen to music thank you
Wash the old bearings out and wrap them in shrink wrap and pretend they are new- assemble them all bone dry. Use old seals and have them riding on painted seal surfaces.
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More like a paint job than a restoration
Lets not forget that missing key on one of the pulleys and just put the old oil back in at less than the right amount for a gear box. just forget about replacing seals. Painted oil seal surfaces. Wrap old bearings in plastic wrap and pretend they are new and place in Dry. My goodness. I hope no one watches this and thinks this is anywhere close to being correct.
How about those two rusty boots on the top cover? I mean REALLY? Couldn't even have cleaned them up, at least so they would look the part.
OK job - just a few issues.
1. Grease: I would use assembly grease when putting the thing back together.
2. Gaskets: Seems like there were some metal to metal points - I would replace gaskets with something and not depend on a metal to metal seal;
3. New Bolts ? - Those first four bolts you removed holding the base to something look like new bolts someone just put dirt on.
4. Hitting Painted surfaces - It would seem a bit better solution to place a wood piece against the painted surfaces and hit the wood piece instead of banging a newly painted surface directly.
5. Bearing Installation - I do not believe I would hammer on bearings like that - need a better process for installing race bearings.
6. I think I would use chemicals (perhaps simply vinegar) to remove the rust or as much rust as possible and then a wire brush or something similar.
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Over all just need patience
@@draper5058 thank you
In my opinion, if you don't know precisely what you are restoring, what are technical specifications of it, what is function of it, what is function of all parts, what are the checks you need to carry out to determine if the part/parts meets the quality parameters or not, what is scientific / proper technical methed to repair/restore the part, what proper tools would need for restoration, what safety measures would need to take during restoration, what performance parameters such assembly needs to meet after restoration...then better get yourself aware of it before starting any repairs / restoration activity and then ensure that you follows/meets such scientific / technical practices and provides performance results as per product specification (especially when you are dealing with major assemblies like gear box or so). This will bring quality in your job as well as boost up your confidence and knowledge. Wishing you all the best.
Such amazing video I could watch this over and over again. A great many love to you and your high guality content.
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Pra mim era sucata kkkk
Ótimo trabalho
Ótimo vídeo
Um grande abraço pra vc e sua família
Very handy to do everything on your heels
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You should have just pressure washed it and used a mop to paint it at least you could have saved a few hours and got the same result
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Ahaha 😂
Love it!
when you opened the thing up and it looked so damn good inside I knew this was going to be a great item to restore. Sure the outside was a mess but the core was well worth saving.
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Everyone of these RUclips restoration Yahoos need to get an Arbor Press. The amount of bearings and shafts that get beat on would be unacceptable by any professional work place.
Механик недоучка,покрасил старые сальники,не поменял и не смазал подшипники,в трех-пяти литровый картер залил пол-литра масла и тд и тп.А забивать подшипник ножкой от табурета- шедеврально😂👍.
Don't they still make lubricant, this puppy is dryer than an Arabs jockstrap.
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This is painful to watch. This gearbox isn't gonna work for long.
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Zacry Carmichael agreed, not even a drop of oil or assembly lube. Or a bearing press.
In SE Asia it will...
didnt even change the metal clutches inside
He added oil in gearbox but that oil was black ,like used oil. So it will not long run.
Title should be 'how to convert a marine gear box into a sand anchor'.
good
i love this video
A rubber spatula to apply the polyester filler works much easier than a metal putty knife.
Muito bommm!!!! Mas merecia um óleo novo né kkkkkkk Leonardo São Paulo Brasil
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Its a pain in my eyes.. paint over rust.. and more.. :(
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No grease on the bearings or gears when reassembling and then you put half a cup of black used oil in at the end !?! It would probably have lasted longer if you had not 'restored ' it.
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I know you're just making due with what you have but there were a couple things that you can do in the future to make things work better. #1 dowel pins go in before the bolts. #2 you should have cleaned the seal surface on the output flange. It was painted! The paint will wipe out the seal (that should have been replaced also) #3 I would have thoroughly oiled all the internal parts during assembly. I mean drenched the stuff. Keep going!
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“Thinks” 🤭 Oil might piss out of this renovation 🤷♂️🤷♂️🥴🥴
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Watch enough of these (my mechanics, Rescue & Restore, etc.) and you learn what a good, clean restoration looks like. How things are cleaned, how they're restored, how they're reassembled.
And while it's worth pointing out that that those guys seldom do things this big and that those guys have all sorts of tools and equipment for their projects, there's some techniques and eyes to detail they have that don't cost anything.
This video however serves as a great example of bad restore. Bad color, bad sanding, bad restoration (too little oil and it appears used, no grease on the bearings, etc.). I'm not a mechanic or anything, but hammering gears into slanted gears just seems painfully, obviously wrong.
So in that regard, I consider it a "good" video just to make me appreciate better the skill and attention to detail in others' projects.
Dude buy an arbor press it pains me to see you hammer in bearings like that
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Can that bolt be opened using "impact wrench"?
use that tool once in a while ..
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Super work! Thank you for sharing!
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Use grease in the bearings.
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Excellent content! This video is a true asset to RUclips. Keep it up I known there are more gems hidden in your vincinty. 😻
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@TheJR1948 du kan ju försöka svara på mitt språk så ska jag säga hur bra det gick HAHAHA
Didn't replace the oil seal at 20:19. so it will let oil through and, in general, did not put any gaskets apart from between 2 blocks + the oil seals had to be changed
это надо же додуматься шпатлевать чугун))
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Че нельзя шпатлёвки
You ought to show your face at times. I certainly would enjoy seeing your face as you do these different channels.
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I like ur shoes..Legend
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Este cara e catedratico.
It’s a good effort my friend but you should read some of your comments left behind in order to learn about missed basic skills.. Some of us leave these comments in order for you to improve on what obviously you enjoy.. But please obtain some grease to start.. 19:48 a BIG mistake being made here👍
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Oil may have been used to make assembly easier
1 there’s this thing called grease 2 with the seals don’t paint the surfaces 3 use NEW oil and use a lot more than the shot glass thst u put in 4 hammering bearings like that will ruin them (the “new” ones you put in) and the filler job thst you put on was poor
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You are the great rebound
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Oh my - a total hack job if I ever saw one. Very painful.
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Buenas , hasta cuanto hp soporta la caja inversora , gracias
Boa noite não trocou os rolamentos e nem os retentores?
Why do you clean and wrap the old bearings? Assemble without oil? this is a farce! Also, who taught you to hammer on the outer race of a bearing.....? What insanity to fit old damaged seals? How are you expecting the old seals to work on painted surfaces? Plus, you must first fit the locating dowels before you tighten the bolts, which each require at least a spring washer. What a waste of time reassembling like this. This is terrible workmanship!
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Hey dude he might not of known that. You don’t have to beat him down about it.
That will heat up and with no grease or oil on the bearings it will cease up.
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Так себе восстановление! Мог бы не разбирать а так сверху покрасить))))
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What machine or process was it used with? What are two gear ratios? Which ratio gears had the greatest wear? Any idea on the maximum input rpm or rated kw/hp? What was shaft stub opposite the clutch lever for? Is the hole above the clutch lever shaft just a vent or breather?
ПЛОХАЯ реставрация.
Сальник старый оставили.
Мастер рукожоп
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@михаил журавлев thank you
@михаил журавлев Да и по краске молотком стучат, болты без шайб...
Чисто для видосика...
Почему он подшипники не смазал? Ведь заводская смазка для транспортировки и хранения но никак не эксплуатации!
Muy bien grande entre los grandes
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You are a profesional technichian. (may be a wrong word). What this machine function Mr?
Where do you guys find this stuff. That's one great rebuild. Greatly enjoyed it from start to finish. 👍
Este cara e catedraco
Is that wooden leg from a chair a oem tool? 😂
And I thought I was rusty..
А зачем шпатлевать корпус? Верхняя крышка не родная
Love video
Tell me, how difficult is it to work with putty? Surface irregularities make it clear that this is not so easy 🤔🤯
Good video
I have the same gearbox in my boat ,where i can find the parts to repair? Please help ,,,
Does anyone know where to get that seal in the exact color of your paint? That's amazing!
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Maybe a car paint company. A supplier to body shops?🖕
Nicely done, sir. Interesting exterior condition, underwater find?
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@@restorationmetaltools4555 cx
Schönes Beispiel wie man es nicht machen sollte. Ich frage mich nur wofür die ganze Arbeit war?
Half assed restoration
Where's the grease???🥴
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22:51 Where's the rod key?
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Any use of oil or grease seems to be totally overrated🤣🤣🤣. So sorry for your time. And mine☹️
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I hate when thses guys put filler on top of rust to make it look good. Butures. Sandblast is the proper way to restore. Looked ugly and nasty at the end
the fact that he burns himself. Sorry pal. Its happened to me too.
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You will have oil leak because oil seal is old..
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когда он начал вал выбивать по центровочному отверстию, я это выключил
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Hhmmm... I don’t see the Restauration to be honest. It’s disassembling with hammer, cleaning, painting over rust and filler, assembling with hammer bone dry... the gears doesn’t look very healthy... anyway, there is room for improvement I guess. Editing the clip and cut is good, like it!
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He put no grease or oil on any of the bearings. That is not good.
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Long Time...
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Was it reused after the restoration?
How was it reused?
As a boat anchor.
@@steveearnshaw1917 In the sense that you repaired it, taking time and perhaps even money ... to throw it into the sea and anchor a boat there ??? !!!
No me gustó como quedó, la pintura no la dejo secar y la dejo toda levantada y marcada, no me gusto el exceso de pasta que le dejó no lijo, en general no me gusta
What is it !?
What's the use !?
Que es??
What is this restoration? You didn't even have to disassemble it to paint it. With a hammer to the bearing - clearly the best way to mount. And do you think it will work without oil? Why use something that can't be used for anything. Wheels are spinning, but do they function? Just completely useless work.
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A tampa do óleo não queria muito negócio não...kkk
Уголок не приварили отколотый(((( за это скидку могут потребовать) Вы же потом все эти механизмы продаёте?
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зачем менять старый сальник,если его можно покрасить! Гениально! Я просто в ахуе!
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Mauvaise Finissions de la peinture
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Where you can use this item?
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Just curious !!!! What does this go on or in ???? Lol
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Wondering that myself. A two speed reducer. I asked what the two ratios are but I'm not holding my breath about getting any answers.
Не понимаю, нахрена шпаклевать, красить и потом херячить молотком? Зачистил бы ржавчину и сверху банку краски вылил. Не советую смотреть, 20 минут времени в жпу...
Make sand blast all rust go . wasting your time.do proper easy way
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РУКАЖОП.....
топ!
Pero si expliqueu que es eixa maquina ....ni si funciona
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What did this gearbox come out of?
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no new seals ouch
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первый видос за всё время просмотра ютуба, где я поставил диз. НУ не считая путенских выступлений)
nabijanie łożysk w zaprezentowany sposób to ich zniszczenie! to żadna renowacja tylko odmalowanie. łożyska powinny być wymienione i wciśnięte na prasie anie kawałkiem drewna nabite!
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Nawet uszczelniaczy nie wymienił.Tak jak mówisz rozebral wyczyścil pomalowal i poskladal. 😂
O rapaz usa máscara por vergonha deste serviço.
Use-o para evitar poeira
パテじゃなくて地金を削り磨いて欲しい。
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Bad job. When I worked in plant, if I do restoration or repairs like that, I'm fucked defenetly
Нахрена шпатлевать, если ещё хуже сделал чем было. Подшипники я так понимаю старые, как и сальники. Это не реставрация, а так себе. По Русски это называется ху...ня.
Funciono? No vi grasaaaaaaa
А что это за херабора?
Это коробка передач
@@restorationmetaltools4555 от токарного что-ли?!
Видимо в процессе реставрации автор понял, что эта вундервафля не нужна никому, включая самого автора и поэтому все сделал на отъебись. Ни сальников, ни прокладок не поставил, тупо помазал тонким слоем герметика, как в россиянских автосервисах обычно делают. За каким-то хреном подшпаклевал нормальные участки и тупо покрасил без грунтовки. Шестерни помыл водичкой, собрал ножкой от стула, залил, судя по цвету, слитое оттуда же масло, и наверное поставил под стекло в бабушкин сервант, ибо там сему девайсу самое место, как памятнику неебической рукожопости.
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Китаец что ли?