Tzipi Livni - The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: Past and Future-Jewish Insights with Justin Pines
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- No major political figure has had more recent experience trying to negotiate a two-state solution than Tzipi Livni. As we approach the Hebrew calendar anniversary of the darkest day in recent Jewish history, Tzipi Livni joins Justin to discuss her experience, her reflections after one year, and what is possible for the future of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Tzipi Livni has served in eight different cabinet positions under three prime ministers: Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert, and Benjamin Netanyahu. Her positions have included Vice Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs, and Minister of Justice. She has also been the official Leader of the Opposition.
As foreign minister, Tzipi Livni led negotiations with the Palestinian Authority; she was a key government figure during Israel’s disengagement from Gaza and during Hamas’ subsequent takeover of Gaza. She was foreign minister during Israel’s Second Lebanon War and during Israel's operation to take out Syria’s nuclear reactor. She is widely regarded as one of the most influential women in Israel since Golda Meir.
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Excellent comments. It's a shame that she no longer seems to play a role in Israeli political life. She has a good understanding of the major issues.
She seems to be *totally clueless* about Islam!🙄 Thankfully Bibi Netanyahu understands that Islam is not just a threat to Israel, but to the wider Western freedom-loving enlightened world.
Too sane for our times. The most balanced, reliable politician of the last decades. Too bad she partnered with Herzog.
Wish she would join a better future coalition.
tzipi livni helped ariel sharon ethnically cleanse all The Jews from gaza in 2005. than hamas came to power and the rest is history. her actions helped create the current situation in gaza.
The Jews were not ethnically cleansed. They had settled there in violation of international law and their illegal settlements were dismantled. This, incidentally, was part of a wider plan to accelerate the construction of illegal settlements in the West Bank. It is in fact Palestinians who have been routinely and systematically ethnically cleansed from various parts of historic Palestinian. This is happening again as we speak in Northern Gaza where the Israelis are in effect attempting to starve out an entire civilian population.
Why would you hold that against her now given that Netanyahu took care of the Sharon problem. I suppose she knows she has to watch her back pretty closely. Israelis need to know, the whole world is watching and given that Israel is a nuclear power the whole world is really watching.
There is a level of projection on the part of so many Israelis that is mind boggling. “it’s them! It’s them! It’s not us!”
@@salmankhawaja9626 , you do know that Jews lived in Gaza up to 1929? Than arabs rioted, murdered 135 and got brits to ethnically cleanse The Jews from the area. Also, The Jews lived in Judea and Samaria up to 1948. Than hashemites from arabia ethnically cleansed them from the area.
@@MD-bu3xc , she helped create this mess. Netanyahu has not solved sharon problem. He is a politician. He will fold under pressure like before and allow arabs to continue to rule gaza. Netanyahu has a record. We know how he rolls.
Reality hasn’t taught her anything??
Such as, you can’t steal other peoples land by being nice?
@@MD-bu3xc Is that what's happened?
@@MD-bu3xc such as, NEVER BE NICE!!!!
@@MD-bu3xc no, you have to understand all the intervening factors and propose something that actually would WORKS and improve the situation, can you name one?
I can't understand how Israeli spokespersons can talk of valuing rights for everyone and yet look the other way or even support settlements in the West Bank. How are these two things reconcilable?
Because the settlements aren't the problem. Why are you obsessed with them?
It is Judea and Samaria, not "west bank". Why can't The Jews build on their own land?
Why are Jews living in Jewdea?
@@alexjohnson9630 100%!!!!
@@alexjohnson9630 Because what they consider their own land is actually Palestinian land. For the past several centuries at least, and all the way up to the present day, the West Bank has been overwhelmingly Palestinian/Arab, yet Palestinians are denied sovereignty and self-determination there. Israel's claim to the land is based on a historical conception of what transpired on that territory some two millennia ago, and such a claim is ipso facto absurd and cannot possibly have any status under international law.
Not the best guest, considering the circumstances in Israel! 😞
So Levni is the genius that is going to solve this religious conflict simply by calling it something else. Is it a religious conflict or not? If it is, what good is it to call it something else? As things unfolding in real time, the State of Israel is liable to be the undoing of the Jewish People. Evangelicals are investing handsome sums in this conflict to precipitate the second coming of Christ. How is this not a religious conflict?
@@johnrichie2136 is abslolutelty a religious problem, specially for all the Quran believers
@@paulabalansky1611: That's what Muslims in Egypt tell me too. They don't want Israel to exist in ANY form. They don't want Jews in control in land that should be Islamic.
Thyroid looked enlarged meaning could be hypothyroidism 1/5 women suffered from thyroid diseases.
@@dr.samierasadoonalhassani2669 could also result from obstructive sleep apnea
Zpi Livni....niet re vertrouwen./////No es de confiar.
Why not?
Tzipi Livni for Prime Minister.
levena not go without me sur
Worst minister ever
In what way? I really lose my patience when people make comments without backing them up.
@@loanranger12 very simple: study the results and consequences of all the policies she recommend and implemented.
WHO is happy? Has any situation has really improved?
@@paulabalansky1611 Livni has made many. It’s your responsibility to be specific. It’s your comment. Not up to me to read your mind. That said, hindsight is 20/20. The biggest problem of Israel and the world is ethnocentrism. Need to understand the Arab psyche. Guaranteed it’s based on lies and rearranged facts in order to support false narratives.
@@loanranger12: She seems to be clueless about the force that drives *fundamentalist* Muslims. They don't want peace with the Jewish people of Israel. They want NO Jews at all in the region, or at a minimum no Jews in control.
@@paulabalansky1611 It’s your comment. It’s up to you to provide the details.
Wow the genes meet the epigenetic.Which European country she came from?.
Jabotinski equality to minorities...😂
“Arafat didn’t accept”
Have you ever considered it wasn’t a fair deal and that Israel doesn’t come to the table as equal partners?
@ You prove yourself to be uninformed by your response. Arafat had no intentions of making a deal, just like Sinwar didn’t. And if I did want to give you the benefit of the doubt, why start suicide bombing the people you’re making a deal with. Here’s the real answer that fits the situation. Arafat was given everything he asked for. But according to the Koran, if he makes a deal with infidels, he will be considered an infidel as well, and he’d be dead in a few weeks, if not sooner. Realizing he’s backed into a corner, he needs a very strong distraction, to make it look like Israel/USA pulled a fast one. A terrifying response will cause the people he purports to represent, to believe Arafat’s version of the story. Ever notice that when the Israelis give up land for peace, they get attacked? Ever notice that when they are in a cease fire with the Arabs, like on Oct 6, 2023, they get attacked the next day? Ever notice that the Arabs don’t take any responsibility for their poor decisions, and instead fabricate a narrative that blames Israel? Ever wonder why the leadership of the so called Palestinians are billionaires? This shows a blatant disregard for the electorate they supposedly represent. Ever notice that their leaders are Egyptian, and not Palestinians? Ever wonder why there’s no shelters for non-Hamas individuals? Even Adolph Hitler had shelters for the German people to hide in. Ever botice how much aid has gone into Gaza, and yet somehow it never reaches the Gazan people, and then find out that the UN relief convoy food finds it way into Arab markets, up for sale, with Hamas pocketing the shekels? How can any one with any common sense place the blame on Israel? It’s their land and they can live anywhere they please on their land. They’re willing to share it with peaceful people, but Arabs who Islam has indoctrinated, aren’t willing to share. They’re convinced it’s their land. And if it was, they wouldn’t share it with Jews. They don’t want to share East Jerusalem with Jews. This isn’t the 7th century any longer. Can a Jew walk into a mosque? Are there synagogues in most Arab lands? Of course not. It’s time for Palestinian Arabs to accept that they are nothing but trouble, and their association with Western leftists isn’t working out in their favor. If you want peace, either settle down, or move to a country that’s all Muslim and not a democracy. If you don’t like democracy, please leave. If you want to stay, then shut up and stop trying to force your will on people. Share your existence rather than pushing your way of life on others. You had your chance for a state, and instead you didn’t say a word about tunnels being built with the international donations. No one feels sorry for you anymore. The world is wising up to the decades of deception and wasted taxpayers’ money from the West.
@@IbnSaifi Deals are never fair. They’re a compromise. The problem is that the Koran doesn’t compromise. Islam doesn’t compromise so failure to reach a fair deal is a given, under Islamic doctrine
@@loanranger12does that include the peace agreements with Jordan and Egypt?
Thank you for inviting her, an experienced politician as she is.
She was a horrible politician, unreliable in character and content. No come back for ex's like her.
How interesting that she describes living in a tough neighborhood as if it’s the other side that is most dangerous and then immediately follows that with once the borders are agreed to the other side must be demilitarized. Not Israel of course but just the other side.
Israel never threatened any country with annihilation. All the countries surrounding Israel did call for the annihilation of Israel at some point or another in history. That's the difference!