It's not only a design issie, it's also a production issue. New ideas in materials science, particularly regarding metal alloys, are often overlooked in physics. Companies aiming to reduce production costs frequently choose different ingredients without considering important factors like temperature capacity, abrasion resistance, and force resistance (including friction, abrasion, and stress). Additionally, they may source components from cheaper subcontractors. For instance, a wide variety of aluminum alloys can differ significantly from one another. In conclusion, if manufacturers do not revert to old, proven production methods, they will unlikely resolve their current issues.
I have been driving Toyota car based products for twenty years. The multitude of issues with the new generation Tundra and Tacoma has eroded some of my trust in the brand. Unfortunately all brands seem to be having quality issues. The plan going forward is to maintain the vehicles I have and hope they run forever.
Second gen Toyota tundra will honestly last forever…. Oil undercoat and frequent fluid changes and your set… unless u literally have money to burn, I don’t understand the psychological illness to buying a new vehicle unless it has some major improvement, like the thing drives itself or something
Looks like the V35A twin turbo V6 has some serious design and engineering issues to resolve. Absolutely zero chance it’s metallic debris causing these catastrophic failures
@ Lots of automakers still make V8s That includes Ford, GM, and Ram. I agree emissions standards are partially responsible a lot of brands still produce big engines
It's weird isn't it. Ever time I get in my 2008 Sequoia...it feels old/beat up...like a relic, but I never question that it's going to get me where I'm going. I can't say the same for newer vehicles.
It’s a good day to be a ford guy, when my fleet at work has had not a single engine failure, trans failure nothing more than the occasional coolant leak from the heater hoses, or rotted out trans lines. Meanwhile the Chevy pickups need transmissions like thier a maintenance item, multiple lifter failures, injector failures, and then Toyota comes out and drops the mic with the new tundra and tacomas. Not saying thier aren’t Fords out their that don’t have issues but from personal experience in the shop theve been damn good to us🇺🇸
Same. This is why I chose the Titan. I've got the 2018. The 5.6 has a great power band and tows well. The 7 speed is a little awkward at times, but isn't a deal breaker.
The build date cutoff for faulty engines is supposed to be 2/4....but models AFTER that still suffer engine failures.The costs alone on this engine scare me....Will NEVER own one out of warranty.
You are providing a great consumer service with these videos. Keep up the great work. You and I are in the same position- loved prior Toyotas and waiting to buy. This video sealed it for me. Not a Tundra. Nobody that pays attention believes it is engine debris.
basically the entire life span of this generation tundra is at risk. Yet they have told us that the issue was resolved in 2023. Sure wish toyota would of been more transparent and honest with the problem and the solution so buyers could verify and know for sure correct parts have been changed and problems fixed. Excellent video as always.
I agree Jason. They have had a long time to remedy this issue, we should not be seeing this. Maybe this will just be a one off....maybe? But I doubt it, typically where there is one there are more to come with this issue. I think the issues have slowed down but....just not a good look for Toyota.
Agree. But also no confidence in the next redesign either if they failed miserably at both the Tacoma and Tundra redesign, not to mention every suv with these same drivetrains. Scary for the future of Toyota/Lexis. It is a big indication that Toyota/Lexis has serious internal and company culture problems of they are unable to design, not just reliable, but have flawed internal engineering and design company problems. Then the arrogance of their distribution and dealerships structure, mark-ups, refusal to negotiate on price. I wouldn't consider buying one without a $10-20k off msrp outcome and might not even be interested in purchasing at all.
A couple of years ago I was excited about the new Tundra and Sequoia until I learned about their drivetrain options. I had a bad feeling about this drivetrain from the beginning.
I used to be one of the first to own a 2022 Tundra back in early 2022. 4 mths ago, sold my 22 Limited trd OR. Got a 23 Taco trd pro Solar Octane next day! I never looked back. Now it's 2025, crazy!
From everything I've seen about turbo engines, all the benefits are for the manufacturer and dealer, and none for the owner. They require more maintenance, go wrong more often simply from having more parts that can fail, and don't actually save fuel.
Yeah it was never really about saving fuel IMO, I think it's a race for manufacturers to chase power when comparing to each other. Turbos run similar to electric cars, lots of torque, people love it for towing/gunning it around...
EPA Cafe standard allows certain power to size to mpg ratio. Manufacturers are forced into turbo aluminum engines because the government emissions goals
@@Wellh0wryamy understanding is it’s a fleet based average. I haven’t heard the power to size thing. Anyway, I believe there was a higher up at Ford that said, “we build the Mach E so we can keep building the Mustang V8.” I can only assume the 5.0 F-150s also benefit from that arrangement with the Lightning models.
I traded my 2022 Tundra for a 2024 4Runner and I am not regretting it. It is very sad what is going on with this new truck. I worked in Michigan where it was a sin to drive anything but the big three. I waited till I retired and bought my Tundra. I had a chance at the time of purchase to get a brand new 2021 or the 2022. Like a fool I went with the latest and greatest and took the new. HUGE mistake!!!!! This 2024 4Runner has the same Tech in it that I would have gotten in the 2021 Tundra and I love it, and the vehicle inside and out is solid as hell. Toyota needs to step back and take a good look at where they our going. There new Tacoma is having problems and I fear the new 4Runner is going to be the same story. I will take old school any day over this new Tech..
That's probably why they haven't released the new 4Runner yet. With the Tundra and Tacoma having problems they can't afford for the 4Runner to suffer the same fate.
I just read 2-3 Reddit posts with people’s 2025 models still being affected by the same issue. I’ll trust it when they bring back the reliable V8/V6 engines back.
@ ain’t that the truth! Has the power to do it but not enough gas to keep doing it! Unless you stop at every gas station! I would rather stop at every gas station to feed that pig then to put a new motor in my tundra after 20k miles
@swampbass6494 When I drive to my camp..8 hrs and use the factory rims and tires, my 20 Tundra is actually not terrible on fuel. I se between 12 to 14 litres per 100 kms or around 20 + mpg. I had a Sierra back in 88 and had a 5 litre. It had less power and no better on fuel.
Blame the democrats for signing us up for the Paris Accord which mandates EVs by 2050. EPA won't allow traditional engines, everything will be turbo hybrid until 2050
@@RipliWitanino one forced them to do anything. They were offered tax credits and they got greasy while cutting cost and raising it up for us. Some manufacturers are still doing the V8’s and some are half and half like Mercedes with the g wagon.
For the first time in 26 years, I did not buy a Toyota product based on all the ongoing issues that they have not resolved. I am now the proud owner of a 2024 Nissan Frontier. Naturally aspirated V6. I would NEVER buy a 2.4L Turbo four (ever). What in heavens name is Toyota doing to their brand? 😐
Well when nissan dies in 12 months and dealers shut down what will you do with that warranty with no dealer to take it to ? 😂. Toyota has been building turbos and turbo diesels forever overseas. In fact the old 1987 pickup had a turbo 2.4 liter 4 cylinder 😂
I am an engineer and I have studied up on the design of the bottom end of this engine to really get a good grasp on what I think could be potential design flaws if any. For me an obvious flaw was a single piece aluminum main bearing cap plate bolted to the bottom of the engine. Using an aluminum piece to hold in the bottom end of a high torque engine like this was a mistake. Not only does aluminum deflect more (bend) under the same stress compared to steel, but under heat it will 100% grow and distort more than steel as well. It’s a softer cheaper/lighter material. Could it handle lower torque lower horsepower engines? Yeah probably, but I personally would have chosen steel for a heavier duty application for something like a 1/2 ton truck but Toyota played the cheaper/ save weight game. There’s a reason why the ford 3.5 eco boost TT V6 doesn’t have these bottom end issues, because it uses the tried and true main bearing caps made out of steel and the caps sit within the engine casting not on the bottom of it.
@barabas688 One fairly easy way to fix this potentially is just to make the main bearing plate that is currently in there steel instead of aluminum. It would only help things.
Yeah I would not keep one out of warranty. I hear they ride great/drive awesome, have great power etc. I would not want to risk them out of warranty though.
@@beexiong2995 yes but mine isn’t included in phase 1 recall.If my engine goes and it’s still only coved to 65k, Sorry Toyota isn’t trustworthy anymore as all the automakers are the same nothing but trouble…
@@beexiong2995 correct,but since my truck isn’t included in the recall,but later models have had engine problems as well. I will ride my current truck until the power train warranty is up.
This! I haven't heard any owner that asked for a turbo V6, it's all been forced by Toyota, and they're losing customers over it. Same with the Tacoma, nobody wanted a turbo, but Toyota forces it in anyway.
Adding D4S and the 10 speed to the old 5.7 would have brought the fuel economy mostly into parity with the new engine. The cost savings for all involved would have been enormous.
@@beexiong2995 How are we misinformed? The data shows this engine's a dud, the v8 was solid as a rock. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the results.
Again thank you for exposing Toyota and their shady business ethics. I wish these videos were available before I bought my 23 sequoia and tundra. I hate my Toyotas and really look forward to the day I get rid of them. I never believed I would be so disappointed in Toyota.
@ none because I’m very cautious when driving them. I avoid long trips and keep the strain on the motors to a minimum. I only use to commute to work. It does vibrate tho with the sequoia being more severe that the tundra. Both are hybrid limited 4x4.
@@arcsolomon6360I hope so. They can’t explain why the motors are vibrating tho. People who had motors blow up experienced a vibration before it had a catastrophic failure.
There is a design flaw in the ladder construction that cradles the crank. Any good engineer would look at the way the bottom of the engine is designed and they changed it so they can save money on assembly. Look how much they saved!
I'm guessing your mpg are slightly better :). I have been looking at GM/Toyota etc....still have not pulled the trigger. My favorite looking truck is the GMC Sierra I think...
@@josephdunbar2105 Luckily the transmission issue chevy has can be fixed very easily. NextGenDiesel has a kit with new valves/better than factory. Replacing them in the valve body around 80-100k isn't too bad of a job, the rest of the transmission is really solid but, the valve body specifically is hurting their reputation.
@ never said they wouldn’t, but at what cost to me if I buy one? It’s $30,000 more than it should be, I’ll be without the use of my vehicle while getting it fixed, what if as some say it is indeed a design problem and not just debris from manufacturing? Any or all could apply, if you’re willing to risk it good on ya. I’m not gonna trust it. I say take the black eye admit the issue and make a real change. Inline 6, v8, lots of ways to fix the issue.
The fact that they can't even get reliable engine hoists to dealers for servicing these is very telling. I wouldn't touch these engines with a 10 foot pole
@@wysetech2000 Doesn't matter if they did or not, it's still their end responsibility for not putting out crap. It's the same thing for parts they outsource.
This is typically what happens in large companies when the resident safety police teams get involved, don’t listen to the boots-on-ground experienced employees, and rubber stamp equipment purchases based on their “ESH assessments”…
If Nissan had stuck with the Titan a little longer i think they’d have had a very good 2025. Not the fanciest truck by any means, but a great essentially bulletproof V8 with no bullsh!t frills like Stop/Start & Cylinder Deactivation. Just a good old school solid truck.
2026 is a face-lift.....let's see if they do something. THE 3ur had issues with valve springs destroying engines....and the most recent case is a 2019...but that issue is NEVER compared to this....
Iv been saving years and years for a track and my heart was set on a Tundra so sad about all these issues. Ended up with a Sierra AT4 and in love. One day I will be in a TRD Pro when they get all this figured out
I have a ‘12 Tundra. My 3rd (‘03 & ‘06) & all have had great quality. I’m ready to replace my ‘12 but I won’t buy a Tundra yet. Probably will try another brand. Very sad that a past excellent product is no longer. Thank you for your excellent videos.
I've been considering a Lexus GS since the new model was introduced. I believe this uses the same motor and am waiting for it to be recalled as well. I think it has not been recalled only because they sell so few numbers that it is not yet statistically significant.
Toyota can't afford to have continuing durability problems with the V35A-FTS V6 engine. It seems inconceivable that any inherent design or assembly problems havn't been fixed by now given that the motor has been in production since 2018 (Lexus LS500).
The engine may have been in production since 2018 in the LS but those cars are massively expensive and as such, there are fewer on the roads and you will fewer failures because of that alone.
In 2021 I knew I was gonna got a Tundra. I couldn’t decide if I should wait till the 22 rolled out, or if I should get a left over 21 where options were limited. I decided to get the 21. I decided the only two things that were cons were gas mileage, and tech being “dated” well gas wasn’t too much an issue for me since I don’t commute much. And the “tech” to be honest this is something that’s got so out of hand, they “out date” them so quick anyway; what was offered on the 21 was fine with me. I found a 21 Platinum sitting around. Got it when interest was super low. It still runs great, sounds great, looks great. And I’m watching failure videos of the new model 😂 guess it worked out. Really the only loss I see is poor mpg but I can live with that.
I don't buy into the hype. I have 55,000 miles on my 2022 and I've not had any issues except my driver's side window wants to slip when it's raining, that's it. I still say Toyota is the most dependable truck you can buy. When you sell a lot of trucks, you're going to have a few that have problems, no way around it. When you look at the overall percentages of Toyota vs the big 3, I think it's safe to say Toyota is the most trouble free truck on the road.
I have a 2016 Tundra Platinum 5.7, with over 150,000 miles, never had any major issues. The only issue was changing the shock absorbers twice, which as turned out, was not related to shock absorbers...!!!..It was the incompetence of the person putting on the new tires. As often is the case, the least experience guy in the garage is in charge of putting on the new tires. And the fool failed to "balance" the tires properly and do "road force" before putting on the tires. I change the oil every 5,000 miles, use 93 gas, and the car runs like a dream. Will not buy a new Tundra until the issues are resolved.
Leasing a '23 Limited Hybrid. We got it before all this engine stuff was a thing and had planned to buy it out at the end of the term. Now we're just hoping it lasts until we can turn it in. Think our next truck is gonna be the 5.0 F-150. I know they're not perfect either, but at least we wouldn't have to worry about turbos on top of everything else.
Had a 2022 chevy silverado 6.2l chevy silverado naturally aspirated and motor gave out at 15k. Just got my self a 2025 tundra i force max and just put 300 miles on it and so far im loving it! Every manufacturer gonna have their problems. Gonna hope this one can last and if it doesnt.. well thats why its a lease
Fixing the problem IS kaizen. Not fixing it would be the opposite. The fact that toyota is replacing all 100k engines with new engines with updated parts and process is kaizen. Amazing how little people know
We had the Japanese come in and teach Kiazen at my old work. It stand for continuous improvement or constant improvement. Great sales pitch but on the inside the improvement is reducing cycle times pushing them faster and with less people.
@@beexiong2995 should of never got to 100k trucks and now looking like 25's as well. There were reported failures long before Toyota came out with the recall... They knew what was up. True kaizen would of been stopping the production and fixing the issue. Instead they continued to produce an inferior quality part.
My 2022 and 2024 fuel tank gauge still not working. 3 years and Toyota still has no fix. Fuel gauge will default to FULL on start up and stay there. Easy to run out of gas on highway.
Has someone who is currently performing the 24 TA 07 engine replacement recall, 13.6 hours is an absolute slap in the face for what you actually have to do
i work at the plant that makes these engines. there was a problem with the parts washer at the end of the machine line. that’s it. no tolerance issues or any of that. it was purely a machine not working properly for a significant amount of time and the problem is fixed now. but we have a safety stock system where blocks can sit in a crate for a long time before taken to assembly to be built. i’m assuming they tried to get rid of all the problematic blocks out of safety stock but no ones perfect and one may have been missed. mistakes happen and these are good engines.
What date do you recall identifying the issue and resolution put in place? The only reason it smells of bs is 1/24 both main bearings #1,4 and block update- revised, that screams faulty parts sourced or not,.
FYI, I saw 2 dealerships in Illinois that had 20 + new tunde’s on lot and within a couple a days there were only a 3left at both- several x8 car carriages came and took them away . Probably back to the Texas plant, change engine and put em to actions. Junk - glad I have my 14& 18 5.7 . Sick of waiting for a new truck. Toyota sucks Thanks for update 😊
I have a 2025 tundra iforce max. The trucks engine blew up. The baring got loose and broke a lot of stuff. It's currently in the shop getting fixed. So no they have not fixed this
Everyone wants the 5.7 back but honestly I would have loved seeing the 5.0 from Lexus mated to the new 10 speed transmission as a base model and a 5.0 hybrid as an option.
I’ve been driving Tundra’s since 2005. I passed on the 22&23 models and leased a 2024. Now I hear all the bad stuff is still going on. Sheesh. I’m hoping I don’t get screwed when the time comes to turn it in with respect to the residuals.
Maybe Toyota can take some of the B58 BMW engines from the supra production line and put them in the Tundra. It would be more reliable. Actually the B58 would be a perfect engine for the tacoma.
Wow. I was going back and forth between a 2025 tundra and the 2025 f-150 lariat 3.5 eco boost which I have on order. Definitely going with the more reliable 3.5 eco boost!
What problems does it have? I’ve seen many 3.5’s go over 300k miles with hardly any issues at all. It’s been out for 14 years now. It’s all about regular maintenance and oil changes every 5k miles. I’m not too worried about it either as I’m getting a 175k mile warranty. The 2021+ 5.0’s have cylinder deactivation and a BELT driven oil pump. No thanks.
I think out of all the new half ton engine choices, the 3.5 eco boost is one of the most reliable. I don’t want the 5.0 because it has a wet belt driven oil pump and cylinder deactivation. The 5.3 and 6.2 GM engines are garbage due to the cylinder deactivation and have always been plagued with lifter issues. The 3.0 LZ0 seems cool, but I’d rather not deal with the belt driven oil pump and all the EGR crap. And The Stellantis 3.0 hurricane has barely been out and is yet to be truly tested in terms of long term reliability
@@tboe-cr8pz That makes sense. I drive an 08’ Titan and they discontinued them. I hope to get an F250 for my next truck but will go with a gasser to avoid egr crap. Need mine to last a while longer though. Thanks for the reply.
We only need the 1UR-FSE and a hypothetical new 3UR-FSE in the Tundra. 4.6L V8 with 370 hp and more torque than the old 3UR and a 5.7L V8 with D4-S with 430 hp and more torque than the GM 6.2 together with the 10-speed and you got the perfect truck powertrains.
@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 Yes because they decided to update them. Toyota decided to kill the UR series and replace it with a twin turbo V6. It's all just executive decisions.
Currently at 57k miles 2023 and zero issues. Have done the 40k spark plug replacement which is annoying and expensive but other than that it’s been smooth sailing. 4K oil change intervals for me. I short trip the hell out of it too which isn’t good haha but she’s been solid so far
Not really. The older ones yes, but the 3.8 V6 is one of their most reliable engines. Not too worried about it. You keyboard warriors like to talk sh** but have no idea lol. It’s a lease and I’ve got free oil changes for 3 years and the powertrain warranty is for 100k miles.
My Brother has a 2018 Lexus LS500 which has the same engine as the Tundra. Long Story short after 3 weeks of ownership the engine failed and the short block was replaced. His engine failure wasn’t a 1 off. We checked the forums and it was a common occurrence. Toyota/Lexus uses this same engine in the GX550/LX600/Tundra/LS500. I agree with the earlier comment bring back the 5.7 with a 10 speed..
What month this Tundra was produced in 2025? Ahmed from The Care Car Nut mentioned some months ago, that from April 2025 Toyota changed the part number for the bearing. Looks like it’s not the debris but might be poor quality of the bearing. Which I suspected myself too, because I don’t believe on the assembly lines when they assembly an engine the short block will be dirty with debris on it. It can happen in some individual cases, but not massively like on tens of thousands of engines in different places assembly points and factories.
Still not seeing any issues with Hybrid. I heard this is because the hybrid can move still even after main engine failure. But thought we might see something by now.
Glad I went with a '23 Titan, 5.6 NA engine, it has over 20K trouble free miles so far. Replaced my '09 Frontier with over 220K trouble free miles. The Frontier doesn't even leak oil, no fluid leaks whatsoever. Will be giving the Frontier to my daughter and son-in-law, they just bought a house and need a truck for all the home improvement projects. It's a shame that the Titan is now history.
I’m just curious…have any corporate Toyota lawyers been breathing down your neck? Your videos are basically an essential public notification service at this point…keep up the great work in getting the truth out!!
No they have not. I hope they don't. I'm actually a pretty big fan of Toyota despite the issues they are having with the Tundra...hopefully they don't try to legal me out. I do have Toyotas that I like, hopefully I'll do a review soon on a couple of them :)
I don’t think the issue lies in the tiny amount of metal shaving debris in the engine. All cars produce a small amount of similar debris over time. I suspect the design, combined with the high-powered turbos, might play a significant role.
I've owned my 2023 Tundra for a year with just about 6k miles on it. There are no issues with my truck, and hearing these stories of bad engines makes me wonder, what the heck. I assume the crew that assembled my motor took some pride in the build, I'll live with that. 😁
Wow, that’s rough! The Tundra had 0 engine failures listed on the NHTSA site for the entirety of 2024 yet within a couple weeks of the 2025 hitting the streets, one pops up. Would really like to see follow up to see if it was the main bearing issue.
I'm in the process of rebuilding a 2023 lx600 engine that failed. My God, the amount of metal in these engines is insane. And there's this weird gray film in these failed engines. It pretty much chews up the entire engine except for the heads and valves (obviously the lower pan and outer pan is ok).
I have a 2024 and mine has been totally solid. I have a brother n law with a 2023 / 31k miles and perfect. I’m not saying anything other than there are a ton of very satisfied tundra customers.
Yeahhhhh, give us an update as you reach what used to be the Toyota break in mileage, 100k miles, let us know how they running (or not running) then. The turbo is going to fail, the engine will grenade before then you can almost guarantee. Toyota trucks used to last 300k miles easy with just regular oil changes
I’ve said it before and I will say it again. Machining debris is not the main issue in this motor. You don’t get smoked cranks that are burnt like that. The bearings are completely smoked, showing a lack of lubricity, design flaw.
I really like some things about Tundra and was looking at ordering a base SR with the long box. But this is deal-breaker. Honda also had issues with their turbo engines. All the manufacturers are going to smaller turbos for CAFE standards. But, reliability is going down and the overall cost is going up.
I currently own a previous generation Tundra and even owned a first generation Tundra. I've owned my current Tundra 14 years now. It's been absolutely bulletproof with zero repairs. I'm ready for a new truck but I won't touch one of these new Toyotas. I'll be shopping other brands. Why on earth didn't Toyota update either the 5.7L or the 4.6L V-8 and mate it to a 10 speed transmission? It's not too late for them to finally make a good decision and ditch the V-6 twin turbo and return to a reliable product. We've been loyal Toyota customers for decades with both cars and trucks. It makes me sad that I wouldn't even consider a new Tundra.
The tech's required to take a course to replace these long blocks sounds similar to Subaru and their need to replace the FB long block for oil consumption about 5 years ago. They hired a bunch of young guys, took some promising guys from the lube lane and put them all in another building. All they did where these warranty long blocks day after day. Most were hourly a couple were flat-rate. When things started to slow down (like they had replaced most the long blocks in our region) they gave the opportunity to these techs to become "regular" technicians but these guys couldn't diag or do other repairs. Some went back to being lube techs. Some got fired for misdiagnosing multiple vehicles. That was one of the biggest dealerships I've worked at with about 45-50 techs and about 8-10 lube techs. Nevermind the dozens of car porters that never helped technicians find a customer car in multiple huge parking lots.
They should’ve just put the 4.7 in it with the hybrid system, my dad used to overload it…never once failed just wasted gas like a mofo but they could’ve engineered something
Glad I purchased a new 2nd generation 2021 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro employing that bulletproof naturally aspirated 3UR-FE 5.7 liter V-8 engine and reliable 6 speed Aisan transmission.
I haven’t changed my mind on this engine. I don’t think it’s a debris issue but a design flaw.
Spot on. Toyota is either mistaken or untrustworthy.
@@Anonymous-sy2nh untrustworthy, but too trusted
@@conejoshiker3165 well said.
It's not only a design issie, it's also a production issue. New ideas in materials science, particularly regarding metal alloys, are often overlooked in physics. Companies aiming to reduce production costs frequently choose different ingredients without considering important factors like temperature capacity, abrasion resistance, and force resistance (including friction, abrasion, and stress). Additionally, they may source components from cheaper subcontractors. For instance, a wide variety of aluminum alloys can differ significantly from one another. In conclusion, if manufacturers do not revert to old, proven production methods, they will unlikely resolve their current issues.
Cutting corners to maximize profits. Ppl still buy this junk
Bring back the 57 put it in the truck with the 10 speed auto
YESSS!! PLEASE!!!
Give me the manual transmission .
I can’t imagine the fuel economy is that much different too
I agree. would be easy to add direct injection as well... should have been a 425 HP engine 5 years ago with the 10 speed !!
I doubt this will ever happen :(
Come on Toyota this new tundra is the laughing stock of the 1500 segment. Build a v8 truck again please!
Sad to say, it wont happen, V8's everywhere are getting phased out for good
@davidsdean i believe it'll come back around
@@davidsdean V8s or an equivalent engine will come back eventually, probably as a hydrogen/bio fuel model
People needing a V8 to go to the grocery store is hilarious. I’ll stick to my SUVs
@@StarInfinite00couldn’t you accomplish the same with a small car instead of a SUV for groceries?
I have been driving Toyota car based products for twenty years. The multitude of issues with the new generation Tundra and Tacoma has eroded some of my trust in the brand. Unfortunately all brands seem to be having quality issues. The plan going forward is to maintain the vehicles I have and hope they run forever.
I'm in the same boat, still rocking my 2008 Toyota :).
Buy a Subaru next time
We are considering a Subaru Outback in 2025
Second gen Toyota tundra will honestly last forever…. Oil undercoat and frequent fluid changes and your set… unless u literally have money to burn, I don’t understand the psychological illness to buying a new vehicle unless it has some major improvement, like the thing drives itself or something
Same here, my friend. especially because these things do not cost as much as they used too
Looks like the V35A twin turbo V6 has some serious design and engineering issues to resolve. Absolutely zero chance it’s metallic debris causing these catastrophic failures
I wouldn't touch a Tundra from this generation.
Toyota made a huge mistake getting rid of the V8 for Tundras.
Go complain to our government about emissions overregylations
@ Lots of automakers still make V8s
That includes Ford, GM, and Ram.
I agree emissions standards are partially responsible a lot of brands still produce big engines
@@lrn_news9171 hemis are gone since 23'. Ram has a 3.6L now thats garbage.
precisely why i purchased a brand new 2021.
Remember when things were built to last? I miss those days.
It's weird isn't it. Ever time I get in my 2008 Sequoia...it feels old/beat up...like a relic, but I never question that it's going to get me where I'm going. I can't say the same for newer vehicles.
It’s a good day to be a ford guy, when my fleet at work has had not a single engine failure, trans failure nothing more than the occasional coolant leak from the heater hoses, or rotted out trans lines. Meanwhile the Chevy pickups need transmissions like thier a maintenance item, multiple lifter failures, injector failures, and then Toyota comes out and drops the mic with the new tundra and tacomas. Not saying thier aren’t Fords out their that don’t have issues but from personal experience in the shop theve been damn good to us🇺🇸
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
No needed just upgrade every 5yrs.
2006 LEXUS LS 430
Got a 15 tundra limited. Brings a smile to my face every time I turn the key
My husband does too!
Lies you never smile turning the key 🔑 we see you
How's the gas milage?
Gas mileage isn’t much different we are told. The new ones use much less sitting in the lot dead.
This is why I have a 2024 Nissan Titan. V8, No turbo, no cylinder deactivation or auto start/stop. Just simple.
Yeah have a titan xd and I love it. Solid truck
5yr 100k BB warranty can't be beat either.
I can't believe they are getting rid of it.....
Same. This is why I chose the Titan. I've got the 2018. The 5.6 has a great power band and tows well. The 7 speed is a little awkward at times, but isn't a deal breaker.
That Nissan will take a shit sooner than I will 😂
If the replacement engines have this failure is an engineering flaw.
Yeah we'll see if these long block replacements have the issue....time will tell
The build date cutoff for faulty engines is supposed to be 2/4....but models AFTER that still suffer engine failures.The costs alone on this engine scare me....Will NEVER own one out of warranty.
I have peace of mind with my 2024 Frontier. Nothing like the old V6
That Nissan would be my choice from the midsized category.
@@theantiqueactionfigure Unfortunately, it appears that Nissan may soon go out of business.
@@user-zo6xg8bx4lthats what they said like 20 years ago.
@@user-zo6xg8bx4l thats what they said like 20 years ago lmao.
Nice I took a look but too small the new ranger was more room spacious an one of best midsize trucks out
You are providing a great consumer service with these videos. Keep up the great work. You and I are in the same position- loved prior Toyotas and waiting to buy. This video sealed it for me. Not a Tundra. Nobody that pays attention believes it is engine debris.
He regurgitates info he has nothing new , no real information. Just uses clickbait.
basically the entire life span of this generation tundra is at risk. Yet they have told us that the issue was resolved in 2023. Sure wish toyota would of been more transparent and honest with the problem and the solution so buyers could verify and know for sure correct parts have been changed and problems fixed. Excellent video as always.
I agree Jason. They have had a long time to remedy this issue, we should not be seeing this. Maybe this will just be a one off....maybe? But I doubt it, typically where there is one there are more to come with this issue. I think the issues have slowed down but....just not a good look for Toyota.
Yup don’t be stupid and buy a second gen… send a message with your wallet
Agree. But also no confidence in the next redesign either if they failed miserably at both the Tacoma and Tundra redesign, not to mention every suv with these same drivetrains. Scary for the future of Toyota/Lexis. It is a big indication that Toyota/Lexis has serious internal and company culture problems of they are unable to design, not just reliable, but have flawed internal engineering and design company problems. Then the arrogance of their distribution and dealerships structure, mark-ups, refusal to negotiate on price. I wouldn't consider buying one without a $10-20k off msrp outcome and might not even be interested in purchasing at all.
Ill keep my 2020 Tundra. Love the power and reliability. Gas milage sucks but its a truck.
V8 has many issues when it was new
A couple of years ago I was excited about the new Tundra and Sequoia until I learned about their drivetrain options. I had a bad feeling about this drivetrain from the beginning.
Over engineered to under engineered, they had better re design it!
It is an incredibly complex engine that's for sure. Hope they get the longevity figured out but so far it has not been good.
They went from proven design, to experimental.
I used to be one of the first to own a 2022 Tundra back in early 2022. 4 mths ago, sold my 22 Limited trd OR. Got a 23 Taco trd pro Solar Octane next day! I never looked back. Now it's 2025, crazy!
Tacoma is more fun to drive than Tundra. Had a 2020 Tundra. Got a 2022 Tacoma.
Enjoying my 1994 Ford Ranger I bought for $400.
I have one of those...2.3 5 speed.
A keeper!
I have two 99’s. Start every day
From everything I've seen about turbo engines, all the benefits are for the manufacturer and dealer, and none for the owner. They require more maintenance, go wrong more often simply from having more parts that can fail, and don't actually save fuel.
Yeah it was never really about saving fuel IMO, I think it's a race for manufacturers to chase power when comparing to each other. Turbos run similar to electric cars, lots of torque, people love it for towing/gunning it around...
It’s all about emmmmisssions 🧚♂️ what a pssy country we are becoming under these leftists
EPA Cafe standard allows certain power to size to mpg ratio. Manufacturers are forced into turbo aluminum engines because the government emissions goals
@@RipliWitani how does ford 150 still have v8 5.0
@@Wellh0wryamy understanding is it’s a fleet based average. I haven’t heard the power to size thing.
Anyway, I believe there was a higher up at Ford that said, “we build the Mach E so we can keep building the Mustang V8.” I can only assume the 5.0 F-150s also benefit from that arrangement with the Lightning models.
I traded my 2022 Tundra for a 2024 4Runner and I am not regretting it. It is very sad what is going on with this new truck. I worked in Michigan where it was a sin to drive anything but the big three. I waited till I retired and bought my Tundra. I had a chance at the time of purchase to get a brand new 2021 or the 2022. Like a fool I went with the latest and greatest and took the new. HUGE mistake!!!!! This 2024 4Runner has the same Tech in it that I would have gotten in the 2021 Tundra and I love it, and the vehicle inside and out is solid as hell. Toyota needs to step back and take a good look at where they our going. There new Tacoma is having problems and I fear the new 4Runner is going to be the same story. I will take old school any day over this new Tech..
Have a ‘21 Tundra & very happy after having been a big 3 guy since ‘72.
That's probably why they haven't released the new 4Runner yet. With the Tundra and Tacoma having problems they can't afford for the 4Runner to suffer the same fate.
I just read 2-3 Reddit posts with people’s 2025 models still being affected by the same issue. I’ll trust it when they bring back the reliable V8/V6 engines back.
there is so far only one reddit post and given the date it is the same guy that filed the NHTSA complaint
No you didn't
The shame is putting a $35K engine a PU in the first place. Manufacturers have jumped the shark.
It is a ridiculously complex engine...
35k?!?!?
BRING BACK THE 5.7 IFORCE! The 3UR-FE!
I have it. Great v8. So much power...the sound of a v8 growl.
@ so do I like that power house! It’s got enough torque to tenderize an elephant! 🤘😎🇺🇸
@@swampbass6494 It's damn close to a rocket 🚀 ship
@ ain’t that the truth! Has the power to do it but not enough gas to keep doing it! Unless you stop at every gas station! I would rather stop at every gas station to feed that pig then to put a new motor in my tundra after 20k miles
@swampbass6494 When I drive to my camp..8 hrs and use the factory rims and tires, my 20 Tundra is actually not terrible on fuel. I se between 12 to 14 litres per 100 kms or around 20 + mpg. I had a Sierra back in 88 and had a 5 litre. It had less power and no better on fuel.
So sad now the 2025 4Runner has a 4 banger turbo.
Blame the democrats for signing us up for the Paris Accord which mandates EVs by 2050. EPA won't allow traditional engines, everything will be turbo hybrid until 2050
@@RipliWitanitrump will get us v8s
I still drive my 2006 4Runner V8 Sport Edition! And, enjoy every mile.
@@RipliWitanino one forced them to do anything. They were offered tax credits and they got greasy while cutting cost and raising it up for us. Some manufacturers are still doing the V8’s and some are half and half like Mercedes with the g wagon.
4Runners in the 80s have arguably one of the best engines ever made… 4 cylinder 22re
Dang, these things are falling out like flies. GREAT VIDEO!
For the first time in 26 years, I did not buy a Toyota product based on all the ongoing issues that they have not resolved. I am now the proud owner of a 2024 Nissan Frontier. Naturally aspirated V6. I would NEVER buy a 2.4L Turbo four (ever). What in heavens name is Toyota doing to their brand? 😐
Well when nissan dies in 12 months and dealers shut down what will you do with that warranty with no dealer to take it to ? 😂. Toyota has been building turbos and turbo diesels forever overseas. In fact the old 1987 pickup had a turbo 2.4 liter 4 cylinder 😂
@@beexiong2995”forever”apparently doesn’t mean much does it. Hence this video.
I am an engineer and I have studied up on the design of the bottom end of this engine to really get a good grasp on what I think could be potential design flaws if any. For me an obvious flaw was a single piece aluminum main bearing cap plate bolted to the bottom of the engine. Using an aluminum piece to hold in the bottom end of a high torque engine like this was a mistake. Not only does aluminum deflect more (bend) under the same stress compared to steel, but under heat it will 100% grow and distort more than steel as well. It’s a softer cheaper/lighter material. Could it handle lower torque lower horsepower engines? Yeah probably, but I personally would have chosen steel for a heavier duty application for something like a 1/2 ton truck but Toyota played the cheaper/ save weight game. There’s a reason why the ford 3.5 eco boost TT V6 doesn’t have these bottom end issues, because it uses the tried and true main bearing caps made out of steel and the caps sit within the engine casting not on the bottom of it.
Good info.
Has Toyota acknowledged this as the root causes of these 3.4L engine issues?
@barabas688 One fairly easy way to fix this potentially is just to make the main bearing plate that is currently in there steel instead of aluminum. It would only help things.
@kevinwilliams8738 They have stated it as "machining debris" but I really just don't buy it. This bottom end has some clear red flags.
Every single year of this model has had engine recalls and they still cant fix it? Wow its crazy.
Oh noooo,I have a 23 SR5 7 k. Truck is running fine as of right now,I will be dumping this truck shortly before the power train warranty is up.
Yeah I would not keep one out of warranty. I hear they ride great/drive awesome, have great power etc. I would not want to risk them out of warranty though.
Warranty or not, it is a recall. Doesnt matter if it's out of warranty.
@@beexiong2995 yes but mine isn’t included in phase 1 recall.If my engine goes and it’s still only coved to 65k, Sorry Toyota isn’t trustworthy anymore as all the automakers are the same nothing but trouble…
@@beexiong2995 correct,but since my truck isn’t included in the recall,but later models have had engine problems as well. I will ride my current truck until the power train warranty is up.
Toyota should have stuck with the V8. Shame on you Toyota.
This! I haven't heard any owner that asked for a turbo V6, it's all been forced by Toyota, and they're losing customers over it. Same with the Tacoma, nobody wanted a turbo, but Toyota forces it in anyway.
Adding D4S and the 10 speed to the old 5.7 would have brought the fuel economy mostly into parity with the new engine.
The cost savings for all involved would have been enormous.
You guys are all misinformed people. Before you say anything you should dig into the "why" before you say anything.
@@beexiong2995 How are we misinformed? The data shows this engine's a dud, the v8 was solid as a rock. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the results.
@niradz it was horrible when it was new
Again thank you for exposing Toyota and their shady business ethics. I wish these videos were available before I bought my 23 sequoia and tundra. I hate my Toyotas and really look forward to the day I get rid of them. I never believed I would be so disappointed in Toyota.
How many engines have you blown?
@ none because I’m very cautious when driving them. I avoid long trips and keep the strain on the motors to a minimum. I only use to commute to work. It does vibrate tho with the sequoia being more severe that the tundra. Both are hybrid limited 4x4.
Your fine the hybrid is not part of recalled units...
@@arcsolomon6360I hope so. They can’t explain why the motors are vibrating tho. People who had motors blow up experienced a vibration before it had a catastrophic failure.
@@arcsolomon6360there have been hybrid failures (small number). Hybrids were released later so they generally have lower miles than the early Tundras.
There is a design flaw in the ladder construction that cradles the crank. Any good engineer would look at the way the bottom of the engine is designed and they changed it so they can save money on assembly. Look how much they saved!
Toyota should hire you
I had too many issues with my Tundra 24, just traded in for a 24 Chevy TB with the 3.0 Diesel. So far I’m very happy
Keep us informed about the transmission issues and if you have a problem with the Chevy / GM
I'm guessing your mpg are slightly better :). I have been looking at GM/Toyota etc....still have not pulled the trigger. My favorite looking truck is the GMC Sierra I think...
@@josephdunbar2105 Luckily the transmission issue chevy has can be fixed very easily. NextGenDiesel has a kit with new valves/better than factory. Replacing them in the valve body around 80-100k isn't too bad of a job, the rest of the transmission is really solid but, the valve body specifically is hurting their reputation.
My fuel gauge reset on me twice from being below half tank prior, after the recall hit I figured it was time to trade it in, cant trust it
I did the same thing with a23 tundra.
So this has been happening with the v6 turbo on the LS500 since 2018 according to Tinkerer's Adventure.
I’m just not gonna trust the 3.4 twin turbo. Toyota really needs to just bite the bullet and put V8’s back in the Tundra.
Toyota is gonna fix this just like any manufacturer
@ never said they wouldn’t, but at what cost to me if I buy one? It’s $30,000 more than it should be, I’ll be without the use of my vehicle while getting it fixed, what if as some say it is indeed a design problem and not just debris from manufacturing? Any or all could apply, if you’re willing to risk it good on ya. I’m not gonna trust it. I say take the black eye admit the issue and make a real change. Inline 6, v8, lots of ways to fix the issue.
This is how you know that Toyota’s previous excuse with “shavings” was BS
The fact that they can't even get reliable engine hoists to dealers for servicing these is very telling. I wouldn't touch these engines with a 10 foot pole
I bet money that Toyota did not build those engine hoists.
@@wysetech2000 Doesn't matter if they did or not, it's still their end responsibility for not putting out crap. It's the same thing for parts they outsource.
Yeah it's pretty goofy. It's such a bad look for them. I guess technically the hoist is ok....just the chains/hooks that hold it break :).
This is typically what happens in large companies when the resident safety police teams get involved, don’t listen to the boots-on-ground experienced employees, and rubber stamp equipment purchases based on their “ESH assessments”…
If Nissan had stuck with the Titan a little longer i think they’d have had a very good 2025.
Not the fanciest truck by any means, but a great essentially bulletproof V8 with no bullsh!t frills like Stop/Start & Cylinder Deactivation. Just a good old school solid truck.
2024 Tundras built with the updated engine are still having the same engine failure. 2025 will be no different.
2026 is a face-lift.....let's see if they do something.
THE 3ur had issues with valve springs destroying engines....and the most recent case is a 2019...but that issue is NEVER compared to this....
I just can’t understand people willing to go out keep buying these trucks and risking the chances.
I'm with you on that....it's bonkers.
Iv been saving years and years for a track and my heart was set on a Tundra so sad about all these issues. Ended up with a Sierra AT4 and in love. One day I will be in a TRD Pro when they get all this figured out
I see this as civilization grinding to a halt. Poor quality everything and max pricing $$$$. Just the end of the world as we know it😂
I have a ‘12 Tundra. My 3rd (‘03 & ‘06) & all have had great quality. I’m ready to replace my ‘12 but I won’t buy a Tundra yet. Probably will try another brand. Very sad that a past excellent product is no longer. Thank you for your excellent videos.
I've been considering a Lexus GS since the new model was introduced. I believe this uses the same motor and am waiting for it to be recalled as well. I think it has not been recalled only because they sell so few numbers that it is not yet statistically significant.
Wow! Toyota is using engine lifts from the Horrible Freight store. 😂
Hobo frieght
LOL....they do look fairly thin. I expected a little more beef, but I guess in past generations engine hoists weren't used much.
That’s the first thought across my mind when I saw it😢
At this point HF sounds more reliable than Toyota
😂😂😂😂😂😂
So glad I have my 2019 Tundra with the 5.7!
Hold onto it like treasure!
Toyota can't afford to have continuing durability problems with the V35A-FTS V6 engine. It seems inconceivable that any inherent design or assembly problems havn't been fixed by now given that the motor has been in production since 2018 (Lexus LS500).
They bought cheap metal to make more money. I knew it since the first problems in the newer gx in japan
I agree, it feels very weird and uncharacteristic of Toyota.
The engine may have been in production since 2018 in the LS but those cars are massively expensive and as such, there are fewer on the roads and you will fewer failures because of that alone.
In 2021 I knew I was gonna got a Tundra. I couldn’t decide if I should wait till the 22 rolled out, or if I should get a left over 21 where options were limited.
I decided to get the 21. I decided the only two things that were cons were gas mileage, and tech being “dated” well gas wasn’t too much an issue for me since I don’t commute much. And the “tech” to be honest this is something that’s got so out of hand, they “out date” them so quick anyway; what was offered on the 21 was fine with me. I found a 21 Platinum sitting around. Got it when interest was super low. It still runs great, sounds great, looks great. And I’m watching failure videos of the new model 😂 guess it worked out. Really the only loss I see is poor mpg but I can live with that.
I love hitting the gas in 2023 V8 Nissan Titan with dual exhaust by new tundra owners here on the west coast and watching the tears roll.
The titan is dead 😂
I don't buy into the hype. I have 55,000 miles on my 2022 and I've not had any issues except my driver's side window wants to slip when it's raining, that's it. I still say Toyota is the most dependable truck you can buy. When you sell a lot of trucks, you're going to have a few that have problems, no way around it. When you look at the overall percentages of Toyota vs the big 3, I think it's safe to say Toyota is the most trouble free truck on the road.
Was it a hybrid and how many hybrids have failed? Awesome videos and tons of information.
I have a 2016 Tundra Platinum 5.7, with over 150,000 miles, never had any major issues. The only issue was changing the shock absorbers twice, which as turned out, was not related to shock absorbers...!!!..It was the incompetence of the person putting on the new tires. As often is the case, the least experience guy in the garage is in charge of putting on the new tires. And the fool failed to "balance" the tires properly and do "road force" before putting on the tires. I change the oil every 5,000 miles, use 93 gas, and the car runs like a dream. Will not buy a new Tundra until the issues are resolved.
Any info on what is different on the replacement engines?
Leasing a '23 Limited Hybrid. We got it before all this engine stuff was a thing and had planned to buy it out at the end of the term. Now we're just hoping it lasts until we can turn it in. Think our next truck is gonna be the 5.0 F-150. I know they're not perfect either, but at least we wouldn't have to worry about turbos on top of everything else.
Blew mine up at 100,000kms. 2024 model xlt.
Thanks for the update.
Had a 2022 chevy silverado 6.2l chevy silverado naturally aspirated and motor gave out at 15k. Just got my self a 2025 tundra i force max and just put 300 miles on it and so far im loving it! Every manufacturer gonna have their problems. Gonna hope this one can last and if it doesnt.. well thats why its a lease
Just took my lightning in for 1st service at 31000 k . Love it!
Pretty fast considering it took 6 months to get the 2nd fob. This all is making me learn everything about lemon law before my next new car purchase.
So much for kaizen....
Fixing the problem IS kaizen. Not fixing it would be the opposite. The fact that toyota is replacing all 100k engines with new engines with updated parts and process is kaizen. Amazing how little people know
We had the Japanese come in and teach Kiazen at my old work. It stand for continuous improvement or constant improvement. Great sales pitch but on the inside the improvement is reducing cycle times pushing them faster and with less people.
@@beexiong2995 should of never got to 100k trucks and now looking like 25's as well. There were reported failures long before Toyota came out with the recall... They knew what was up. True kaizen would of been stopping the production and fixing the issue. Instead they continued to produce an inferior quality part.
Exactly. The persons who commented need to know that Kaizen WILL MEAN A DEFECTIVE PART IS ELIMINATED....not continued to be produced...
My 2022 and 2024 fuel tank gauge still not working. 3 years and Toyota still has no fix. Fuel gauge will default to FULL on start up and stay there. Easy to run out of gas on highway.
wow...I thought they were past some of those issues. Sorry to hear that...
Has someone who is currently performing the 24 TA 07 engine replacement recall, 13.6 hours is an absolute slap in the face for what you actually have to do
I feel for you all doing these repairs. I can't imagine techs are happy.
@ I personally know 10-15 guys who have left and gone to other Industries because of this recall, it’s crazy
i work at the plant that makes these engines. there was a problem with the parts washer at the end of the machine line. that’s it. no tolerance issues or any of that. it was purely a machine not working properly for a significant amount of time and the problem is fixed now. but we have a safety stock system where blocks can sit in a crate for a long time before taken to assembly to be built. i’m assuming they tried to get rid of all the problematic blocks out of safety stock but no ones perfect and one may have been missed. mistakes happen and these are good engines.
What date do you recall identifying the issue and resolution put in place? The only reason it smells of bs is 1/24 both main bearings #1,4 and block update- revised, that screams faulty parts sourced or not,.
I have been enjoying my 2007 Sequoia with 240,000 miles and counting. 2UZEF is not just bullet proof but bomb proof.
I know a guy with a dealership supercharged '12 Tacoma V6, and at 100,000 miles and lots of towing it's been flawless...
FYI, I saw 2 dealerships in Illinois that had 20 + new tunde’s on lot and within a couple a days there were only a 3left at both- several x8 car carriages came and took them away . Probably back to the Texas plant, change engine and put em to actions. Junk - glad I have my 14& 18 5.7 . Sick of waiting for a new truck. Toyota sucks Thanks for update 😊
I have a 2025 tundra iforce max. The trucks engine blew up. The baring got loose and broke a lot of stuff. It's currently in the shop getting fixed. So no they have not fixed this
Everyone wants the 5.7 back but honestly I would have loved seeing the 5.0 from Lexus mated to the new 10 speed transmission as a base model and a 5.0 hybrid as an option.
Love the vids. Probably should wait to buy anything at this time. Seems quality is down with all brands.
I’ve been driving Tundra’s since 2005. I passed on the 22&23 models and leased a 2024. Now I hear all the bad stuff is still going on. Sheesh. I’m hoping I don’t get screwed when the time comes to turn it in with respect to the residuals.
Maybe Toyota can take some of the B58 BMW engines from the supra production line and put them in the Tundra. It would be more reliable. Actually the B58 would be a perfect engine for the tacoma.
Wow. I was going back and forth between a 2025 tundra and the 2025 f-150 lariat 3.5 eco boost which I have on order. Definitely going with the more reliable 3.5 eco boost!
Tha engine have problems to
Why a turbo at all? I'm genuinely curious if you don't mind.
What problems does it have? I’ve seen many 3.5’s go over 300k miles with hardly any issues at all. It’s been out for 14 years now. It’s all about regular maintenance and oil changes every 5k miles. I’m not too worried about it either as I’m getting a 175k mile warranty. The 2021+ 5.0’s have cylinder deactivation and a BELT driven oil pump. No thanks.
I think out of all the new half ton engine choices, the 3.5 eco boost is one of the most reliable. I don’t want the 5.0 because it has a wet belt driven oil pump and cylinder deactivation. The 5.3 and 6.2 GM engines are garbage due to the cylinder deactivation and have always been plagued with lifter issues. The 3.0 LZ0 seems cool, but I’d rather not deal with the belt driven oil pump and all the EGR crap. And The Stellantis 3.0 hurricane has barely been out and is yet to be truly tested in terms of long term reliability
@@tboe-cr8pz That makes sense. I drive an 08’ Titan and they discontinued them. I hope to get an F250 for my next truck but will go with a gasser to avoid egr crap. Need mine to last a while longer though. Thanks for the reply.
Are tundras built in the same factory? What’s common amongst the failures?
We only need the 1UR-FSE and a hypothetical new 3UR-FSE in the Tundra. 4.6L V8 with 370 hp and more torque than the old 3UR and a 5.7L V8 with D4-S with 430 hp and more torque than the GM 6.2 together with the 10-speed and you got the perfect truck powertrains.
EPA won't allow v8s, only fords 5.0 passes new emissions standards
Sadly I don't think they will head down that path :(
The new GMC Chevrolet V8s I believe also pass standards or will be updated to....
@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 Yes because they decided to update them. Toyota decided to kill the UR series and replace it with a twin turbo V6. It's all just executive decisions.
@@RipliWitani chevy does now with Trump back this crap will go away
Currently at 57k miles 2023 and zero issues. Have done the 40k spark plug replacement which is annoying and expensive but other than that it’s been smooth sailing. 4K oil change intervals for me. I short trip the hell out of it too which isn’t good haha but she’s been solid so far
I have a 24 limited. I do 5k oil changes. I think that is very important for their longevity.
Toyota is the new Kia of the automotive industry. Disposable cars and trucks.
And Kia’s are amazing now! My wife and I are leasing a 2024 Kia telluride sx prestige x pro and the build quality is amazing on it
@tboe-cr8pz the engines are garbage
Not really. The older ones yes, but the 3.8 V6 is one of their most reliable engines. Not too worried about it. You keyboard warriors like to talk sh** but have no idea lol. It’s a lease and I’ve got free oil changes for 3 years and the powertrain warranty is for 100k miles.
KIA’s made in South Korea are well known as being well made and very reliable. Must be US made ones you’re talking about.
Kia and engine fires are synonymous 😂
My Brother has a 2018 Lexus LS500 which has the same engine as the Tundra. Long Story short after 3 weeks of ownership the engine failed and the short block was replaced. His engine failure wasn’t a 1 off. We checked the forums and it was a common occurrence. Toyota/Lexus uses this same engine in the GX550/LX600/Tundra/LS500. I agree with the earlier comment bring back the 5.7 with a 10 speed..
What month this Tundra was produced in 2025? Ahmed from The Care Car Nut mentioned some months ago, that from April 2025 Toyota changed the part number for the bearing. Looks like it’s not the debris but might be poor quality of the bearing. Which I suspected myself too, because I don’t believe on the assembly lines when they assembly an engine the short block will be dirty with debris on it. It can happen in some individual cases, but not massively like on tens of thousands of engines in different places assembly points and factories.
Part number on the main bearing changed in April if I remember correctly.
Still not seeing any issues with Hybrid. I heard this is because the hybrid can move still even after main engine failure. But thought we might see something by now.
Glad I went with a '23 Titan, 5.6 NA engine, it has over 20K trouble free miles so far. Replaced my '09 Frontier with over 220K trouble free miles. The Frontier doesn't even leak oil, no fluid leaks whatsoever. Will be giving the Frontier to my daughter and son-in-law, they just bought a house and need a truck for all the home improvement projects. It's a shame that the Titan is now history.
I’m just curious…have any corporate Toyota lawyers been breathing down your neck?
Your videos are basically an essential public notification service at this point…keep up the great work in getting the truth out!!
No they have not. I hope they don't. I'm actually a pretty big fan of Toyota despite the issues they are having with the Tundra...hopefully they don't try to legal me out. I do have Toyotas that I like, hopefully I'll do a review soon on a couple of them :)
Sorry I’m trying to understand, you say if there’s an SX in the VIN it’s probably a bad engine? I’m asking because I have a 2025
Im out here driving an 05 with 202k on it. I wouldnt trade it for these turds even if you paid me.
I don’t think the issue lies in the tiny amount of metal shaving debris in the engine. All cars produce a small amount of similar debris over time. I suspect the design, combined with the high-powered turbos, might play a significant role.
I would want the square style chain links which usually means it's hardened well past what I' or most others willever use or need
I've owned my 2023 Tundra for a year with just about 6k miles on it. There are no issues with my truck, and hearing these stories of bad engines makes me wonder, what the heck. I assume the crew that assembled my motor took some pride in the build, I'll live with that. 😁
Wow, that’s rough! The Tundra had 0 engine failures listed on the NHTSA site for the entirety of 2024 yet within a couple weeks of the 2025 hitting the streets, one pops up. Would really like to see follow up to see if it was the main bearing issue.
I'm in the process of rebuilding a 2023 lx600 engine that failed. My God, the amount of metal in these engines is insane. And there's this weird gray film in these failed engines. It pretty much chews up the entire engine except for the heads and valves (obviously the lower pan and outer pan is ok).
I have a 2024 and mine has been totally solid. I have a brother n law with a 2023 / 31k miles and perfect. I’m not saying anything other than there are a ton of very satisfied tundra customers.
Yeahhhhh, give us an update as you reach what used to be the Toyota break in mileage, 100k miles, let us know how they running (or not running) then. The turbo is going to fail, the engine will grenade before then you can almost guarantee. Toyota trucks used to last 300k miles easy with just regular oil changes
@@msnknight6285 I know of people that have 2019 F150 with twin turbos and at least one turbo is out
Happy with my 21 trd pro
I’ve said it before and I will say it again. Machining debris is not the main issue in this motor. You don’t get smoked cranks that are burnt like that. The bearings are completely smoked, showing a lack of lubricity, design flaw.
As a long time Tundra and Toyota owner I recently transition to a diesel Chevy due to lack of V8 or diesel from Toyota.
love that hoodie my dude lol
I really like some things about Tundra and was looking at ordering a base SR with the long box. But this is deal-breaker. Honda also had issues with their turbo engines. All the manufacturers are going to smaller turbos for CAFE standards. But, reliability is going down and the overall cost is going up.
Great video
I currently own a previous generation Tundra and even owned a first generation Tundra. I've owned my current Tundra 14 years now. It's been absolutely bulletproof with zero repairs. I'm ready for a new truck but I won't touch one of these new Toyotas. I'll be shopping other brands. Why on earth didn't Toyota update either the 5.7L or the 4.6L V-8 and mate it to a 10 speed transmission? It's not too late for them to finally make a good decision and ditch the V-6 twin turbo and return to a reliable product. We've been loyal Toyota customers for decades with both cars and trucks. It makes me sad that I wouldn't even consider a new Tundra.
The tech's required to take a course to replace these long blocks sounds similar to Subaru and their need to replace the FB long block for oil consumption about 5 years ago.
They hired a bunch of young guys, took some promising guys from the lube lane and put them all in another building. All they did where these warranty long blocks day after day. Most were hourly a couple were flat-rate. When things started to slow down (like they had replaced most the long blocks in our region) they gave the opportunity to these techs to become "regular" technicians but these guys couldn't diag or do other repairs. Some went back to being lube techs. Some got fired for misdiagnosing multiple vehicles. That was one of the biggest dealerships I've worked at with about 45-50 techs and about 8-10 lube techs. Nevermind the dozens of car porters that never helped technicians find a customer car in multiple huge parking lots.
They should’ve just put the 4.7 in it with the hybrid system, my dad used to overload it…never once failed just wasted gas like a mofo but they could’ve engineered something
Glad I purchased a new 2nd generation 2021 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro employing that bulletproof naturally aspirated 3UR-FE 5.7 liter V-8 engine and reliable 6 speed Aisan transmission.
Enjoying our '21 trail and '23 Pro 4Runners. No issues to report.