If you wanna know what this is called, its a turing pattern or also a reaction diffusion pattern and it makes up most of the textures and pattern that you will find in nature.
My friends and I used to set these up at house parties in college almost 10 years ago. Fun times. Made a short little music video with this effect once, nothing special really and not that great but maybe I'll upload it just for fun.
Man this is so cool, it also makes me wonder if there were any 1970s 1980s "plug and play" game consoles using this technique to generate a 3D flight sim form of game by just mechanically controlling a image receptor and small display inside the game console and outputting that to a video signal
Someone in the other video’s comments mentioned it was used in some early PlayStation games for their feedback blur effect. That’s what they said anyway, I’ve never been much of a gamer so idk. They’re probably right though.
I've lately become somewhat obsessed with the use of emergent behavior to create some sort of analog or mechanical world generator that could be used to create something like a flight simulator or roguelike arcade machine or something. If you know anything about how to augment the behavior of the camcorder or how to create similar effects using more controlled methods, I'd like to get in touch with you and speak about interrogating the full potential of this method.
Try setting up a 2D frame buffer with some random stuff in it, then create a transformation layer of similar size that contains normals of an angled plane and/or some kind of gradient for shading purposes. Transform the contents of the frame buffer through this layer and write the result back to the buffer. Repeat. Adjust the angle of the plane slightly around three axes, like the camera is planning here. Do this at the frame rate of your display and I'm guessing you'll see similar results.
this is the most mindblowing thing i've seen in a while, and i suddenly feel the need to go out and pick up one of these camcorders and cameras to do it myself
Wonderful stuff, your previous video on this subject inspired me to try and do the same thing with my old Sony Handycam DCR-TRV15E and while I don't have the equipment to get such a gorgeous and sharp image output as you have there I still got some very nice results. Thank you so much for sharing this knowledge with us! Really brought a smile to my face.
5 days after your "flying through fractals using a 90s camcorder" video and 1d after this one it falls upon me to become your 1111st subscriber. Congrats for your ongoing success, mate.
Dude, you HAVE to find a camcorder with an "invert" effect. It makes the hall of mirrors into alternating black and white, but when you zoom in the effect is so much wilder than this one. It's a diffusion - reaction pattern and looks almost alive, like slime mold or something. I did this on a Sony digital 8 camera back in the 90s
This is fantastic! I grew up with this technology and didn't even know it could do that. I mean, I knew about video feedback obviously, but not that it could look like this and be this relaxing to watch - thank you!
There was an investigative paranormal TV show in the 90's called "Sightings" that did an episode about a guy who used modern technology to communicate with the dead, and one of his techniques to achieve this, was to hook up a camcorder to a TV, and then point the camera at the TV.
I was just hoping you'd made an extended version and here we are. Thank you! Here's a fun fact tangential to this effect: A few years ago, the band Autechre were doing livestreams (archived here on RUclips!) where they'd leave some synthesizer patterns running, while on screen there were procedurally generated 3D shapes and patterns morphing around pulsing in time to the music, and they had the envelopes and filters and mixing hooked up in such a way that they were scanning the changing shapes/RGB values line-by-line on the screen to affect the music in real time. I wonder if the same principles might be applied to something like this!
I've done similar effects with older video cameras that use vidicon tubes (in particular Newvicon and Saticon tubes) as their image sensor, instead of more modern cameras that use solid-state CCD chips like the camcorder you're using. The vidicons, especially Newvicon-type tubes, have a distinct "lag" to them which helps produce better results than CCDs. I've also noticed it works better with an actual CRT monitor or TV instead of an LCD, but I've gotten good results using LCDs, I just prefer CRTs. If you really want some good visuals get out a laser pointer - you can buy a set of RGB lasers (not rainbow, just red, green, and blue) from eBay and just point the laser at the screen while you are shooting with the camera. It will produce even more insane effects. In my "testing" of visual feedback I usually have it zoomed in enough where the visuals are moving so fast they're basically flying at you. I have a short clip of me doing that with a laser pointer on a Panasonic Newvicon camera and it's pretty cool.
Great stuff dude. I’m a huge fan of video feedback and you made something really cool here. I love how different cameras/tvs and messing around with camera settings can produce such varied effects. Consider me a new subscriber!
Man i havent seen this in years. My brother and I used to play with this like a video game back when we were kids. Pretty sure i still have the little sony handicam we used to do it. Going to habe to bust that out again and show my son haha.
Excellent song choice! Maybe you could find out a way to capture the TV directly to improve the quality of the recording Also is there a way to change to change the fps the camera is recording with? I’m sure that would do a lot with the effects
Funny, you say that because there is a music video by Tame Impala(but it might be fam made not honestly sure) that probably uses this exact technique for the visuals link: ruclips.net/video/dPjVlkcai78/видео.htmlsi=wZM0Yd3nZBjl0np4
well what y'all think what I did in 2015 with s dell HP windows 7 PC and a really crappy camera? well not use it properly... I had something like this as an result. but looked different... like more smoky, and a bit faster. and the sharping was indeed one of the things that made this
A shadow of that thing slowly expands over the image, then, when the shadow is large enough, the auto exposure does a brightness flash and you basically start over
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings I was thinking of putting the camera in some sort of slightly movable cage, so viewers can change the image without breaking the illusion.
Oh really? Huh. I don’t really know anything about fractals so I just assumed there had to be some set starting condition (this is just kind of random) but thanks for letting me know! :D
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings your probably thinking of those super hd math fractals, these are still fractals by principles of self similar patterning stuff. Awesome discovery. There seems like it could almost be a whole field of science and art entertainment if this could be replicated and distilled as method for interactive gaming or something ^_^
@@DeclanDoesCameraThingsso what happens if you zoom out larger than the frame? does it just stop showing what it generated by itself and instead show a distortion of the area around the screen?
@@friedpaper2034 Really? Like… really? Why are you so convinced it’s fake anyway? Look at other comments from the first video. Look at the doctor who intro. Look at the video camcorder home videos made.
It's awesome that a 3d environment can be generated from a visual feedback loop. This is one of the coolest things I've seen here on RUclips!
“A 3D enviroment can be generated from a visual feedback.” Makes you wonder what reality is… doesnt it?
the "3d" environment sometimes looks like a finger print, like in 1:38
It’s awesome that this isn’t a 3D environment. Like not even close. Your brain makes you think it is.
this is the illusion of a 3D environment, that's the phenomenon that fractals produce
Apparently the old Doctor Who opening credits were made using this technique, albeit with 1963 technology
You didn't read the comments from the previous video, or read the captions did you?
i love that this is completely made of imperfections
If you wanna know what this is called, its a turing pattern or also a reaction diffusion pattern and it makes up most of the textures and pattern that you will find in nature.
Woah
Oh so it doesn't just look like CG fractals it probably is fractal in nature?
Thank you
Explain
Great jazz for birds video on this
imagine how amazed the first person to point a camera at a screen, and see the infinite mirror effect was. Then the first to figure this out. wow.
My friends and I used to set these up at house parties in college almost 10 years ago. Fun times. Made a short little music video with this effect once, nothing special really and not that great but maybe I'll upload it just for fun.
You should! I would love to see it :D
2:25 Sock puppet
Man this is so cool, it also makes me wonder if there were any 1970s 1980s "plug and play" game consoles using this technique to generate a 3D flight sim form of game by just mechanically controlling a image receptor and small display inside the game console and outputting that to a video signal
Someone in the other video’s comments mentioned it was used in some early PlayStation games for their feedback blur effect. That’s what they said anyway, I’ve never been much of a gamer so idk. They’re probably right though.
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings
I'm not sure about that... No examples spring to mind
I've lately become somewhat obsessed with the use of emergent behavior to create some sort of analog or mechanical world generator that could be used to create something like a flight simulator or roguelike arcade machine or something. If you know anything about how to augment the behavior of the camcorder or how to create similar effects using more controlled methods, I'd like to get in touch with you and speak about interrogating the full potential of this method.
Try setting up a 2D frame buffer with some random stuff in it, then create a transformation layer of similar size that contains normals of an angled plane and/or some kind of gradient for shading purposes. Transform the contents of the frame buffer through this layer and write the result back to the buffer. Repeat. Adjust the angle of the plane slightly around three axes, like the camera is planning here. Do this at the frame rate of your display and I'm guessing you'll see similar results.
Yes. All of that with a piccolo and a wave table inversely proportional to the refresh rate with some delay lines
this is the most mindblowing thing i've seen in a while, and i suddenly feel the need to go out and pick up one of these camcorders and cameras to do it myself
Wonderful stuff, your previous video on this subject inspired me to try and do the same thing with my old Sony Handycam DCR-TRV15E and while I don't have the equipment to get such a gorgeous and sharp image output as you have there I still got some very nice results. Thank you so much for sharing this knowledge with us! Really brought a smile to my face.
Awesome! Please share if you are able to! ^^
Imagine how fun it would be to skydive into fractals
Legit one of the coolest things I've seen on here in years
5 days after your "flying through fractals using a 90s camcorder" video and 1d after this one it falls upon me to become your 1111st subscriber. Congrats for your ongoing success, mate.
@@n45hch2 thank you 🥹
I can’t believe two videos did all this!
Dude, you HAVE to find a camcorder with an "invert" effect. It makes the hall of mirrors into alternating black and white, but when you zoom in the effect is so much wilder than this one. It's a diffusion - reaction pattern and looks almost alive, like slime mold or something. I did this on a Sony digital 8 camera back in the 90s
Looks like someone predicted the video getting posted tomorrow😄
wonder if infrared would go crazy or just mess everything up
7:50 to 7:54 there's a dragon taking a nap in the left of the screen
[adult swim] bump
This is fantastic! I grew up with this technology and didn't even know it could do that. I mean, I knew about video feedback obviously, but not that it could look like this and be this relaxing to watch - thank you!
There was an investigative paranormal TV show in the 90's called "Sightings" that did an episode about a guy who used modern technology to communicate with the dead, and one of his techniques to achieve this, was to hook up a camcorder to a TV, and then point the camera at the TV.
I was just hoping you'd made an extended version and here we are. Thank you! Here's a fun fact tangential to this effect: A few years ago, the band Autechre were doing livestreams (archived here on RUclips!) where they'd leave some synthesizer patterns running, while on screen there were procedurally generated 3D shapes and patterns morphing around pulsing in time to the music, and they had the envelopes and filters and mixing hooked up in such a way that they were scanning the changing shapes/RGB values line-by-line on the screen to affect the music in real time. I wonder if the same principles might be applied to something like this!
It would be so cool to have a true game made inspired by this. The objective? Try to land.
I've done similar effects with older video cameras that use vidicon tubes (in particular Newvicon and Saticon tubes) as their image sensor, instead of more modern cameras that use solid-state CCD chips like the camcorder you're using. The vidicons, especially Newvicon-type tubes, have a distinct "lag" to them which helps produce better results than CCDs. I've also noticed it works better with an actual CRT monitor or TV instead of an LCD, but I've gotten good results using LCDs, I just prefer CRTs. If you really want some good visuals get out a laser pointer - you can buy a set of RGB lasers (not rainbow, just red, green, and blue) from eBay and just point the laser at the screen while you are shooting with the camera. It will produce even more insane effects.
In my "testing" of visual feedback I usually have it zoomed in enough where the visuals are moving so fast they're basically flying at you. I have a short clip of me doing that with a laser pointer on a Panasonic Newvicon camera and it's pretty cool.
Great stuff dude. I’m a huge fan of video feedback and you made something really cool here. I love how different cameras/tvs and messing around with camera settings can produce such varied effects. Consider me a new subscriber!
woah I used to do this all the time with my moms camcorder, its cool to see other people are doing the same crap lol
this is just absolutely amazing
Thank you for this gem
Man i havent seen this in years. My brother and I used to play with this like a video game back when we were kids. Pretty sure i still have the little sony handicam we used to do it. Going to habe to bust that out again and show my son haha.
Lo-fi video feedback to chill out/study to.
feel like you'd enjoy KOAN Sound based off the music. awesome video btw
I have no idea whats happening, but it looks really cool I like it
I would love to use that in some sort of music video
AWESOME.
Excellent song choice!
Maybe you could find out a way to capture the TV directly to improve the quality of the recording
Also is there a way to change to change the fps the camera is recording with? I’m sure that would do a lot with the effects
I haven’t found a way to change it… it’s got pretty limited controls on it.
I have no clue what is happening but it's really cool
Splendid
I want to set this video as the screensaver on my computer.
Very cool 😎👍
3:02 to 6:24
1.75x or 2x speed.
Enjoy.
There are a surprising amount of songs titled "September"
Ok well I’m glad I put it in captions so I can change it to specify that the song is September by earth wind and fire.
@DeclanDoesCameraThings Ah, thanks!
(turns out one of the songs I was thinking of had more words in it's title '-_-)
Thanks!
Also very cool!
Have you tried this with a CRT TV? I wonder how scanlines and NTSC etc would affect the video feedback.
I have, it makes the lines more pronounced, but the insane reaction speed of crts causes the image to go by a bit to fast.
It's the Doctor who title sequence
You should have put some acid rock in the background. lol
Funny, you say that because there is a music video by Tame Impala(but it might be fam made not honestly sure) that probably uses this exact technique for the visuals link: ruclips.net/video/dPjVlkcai78/видео.htmlsi=wZM0Yd3nZBjl0np4
You should really connect your camera to a 90s era VHS color corrector it’s gonna blow your mind I swear
Makes me wanna experiment with my canon xl1.
very nice actually
Oh yeah, I've done this with the "please insert tape" text lol
❤
well what y'all think what I did in 2015 with s dell HP windows 7 PC and a really crappy camera? well not use it properly... I had something like this as an result. but looked different... like more smoky, and a bit faster. and the sharping was indeed one of the things that made this
Wonderful.
Try that with a beamer/projector?
Yeah this is why i subscribed this the good stuff just jamming
11:50: best part
Really cool
What happens if you put something in front of tv
A shadow of that thing slowly expands over the image, then, when the shadow is large enough, the auto exposure does a brightness flash and you basically start over
Cool stuff
I would so make an art piece or exhibit using this, the materials shouldn’t be too hard to find should they?
Just a camera pointing at a tv! Its be neat to see if an ai could be trained to do the flying so someone doesn’t need to be manning it at all times…
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings I was thinking of putting the camera in some sort of slightly movable cage, so viewers can change the image without breaking the illusion.
Amazing great
Now put it with a Shephard's tone
Edit: Pretty sure he has a hearting bot
No, I don’t
I read every comment and usually try to reply but don’t always have time ( hence my amazingly consistent posting schedule )
@DeclanDoesCameraThings POGGIES?
@ ?
@DeclanDoesCameraThings "POGGIES?" = "REALLY?"
@@Fortplayzthis ok, fine. I don’t exactly know if you expect me to try and prove that I don’t use a bot… ?
here before 4k!
Ended in a crash landing
AWESOME I wanted this
You might like these 3 books-- godel escher bach
noise water meat
the computational beauty of nature
is it cool if I use this for a music video?
@@that-one-music-guy yeah just tag me!
I managed to do this with my phone's camera
What??? Can someone explain to me what this is, or how it was made?
My last vid goes over it :D
🙂
Wow, how did you do this?
My last video goes over it, it’s basically a glorified “infinity tv”
You did!!
I had found gold!
Noice
those are real fractals
Oh really? Huh. I don’t really know anything about fractals so I just assumed there had to be some set starting condition (this is just kind of random) but thanks for letting me know! :D
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings your probably thinking of those super hd math fractals, these are still fractals by principles of self similar patterning stuff. Awesome discovery. There seems like it could almost be a whole field of science and art entertainment if this could be replicated and distilled as method for interactive gaming or something ^_^
epic
can i use these as visuals man???
Yea sure! Just tag me and/or credit me in some way!
song?
Song.
Edit: there’s a list of every song at 0:12
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings ah my bad must have missed it
Really!?! Apostrophe?
Can you, go backwards?
No. :(
Tried it on a CRT and you sort of can if you get the zoom right, but it isn't exactly the same as going forward. Still cool though
can you go backwards
@@remember-amnesia sadly no.
@@DeclanDoesCameraThingsso what happens if you zoom out larger than the frame? does it just stop showing what it generated by itself and instead show a distortion of the area around the screen?
@ yea basically, it just turns into a rectangle that slowly shrinks away.
WTFFFFF
Okay so why does this one look nothing like your original video
I did it on a different tv and I added some contrast in post because the lens that I was using to film was dirty
@ Bull. Shit.
@@friedpaper2034 Really? Like… really? Why are you so convinced it’s fake anyway? Look at other comments from the first video. Look at the doctor who intro. Look at the video camcorder home videos made.
cool music. ever check out ceephax or dmx krew? recent albums were pretty good
I haven’t heard their music yet but I’ll be sure to check them out!