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For those wondering (as I was), they were spraying the lacquer master (which is soft) with silver nitrate, then dipping it into a nickel bath to electroplate the master...essentially taking the soft lacquer and making a metal twin so it can then be use to stamp the vinyl (PVC) cookies in the press.
I thought, they would have changed to the DMM process completely, it eliminated this step and by the way, it's possible to extend the recording time to 30 minutes per side without audible impairment.
Both silver nitrate, and a solution that will cause the silver nitrate to react and deposit on the surface as pure silver. For the chemistry nerd, it's basically a spray-on Tollens reaction. And doing that first is needed because of course, you can only electroplate objects that conduct electricity
@@robfriedrich2822 It's not possible. Only about 30 DMM cutting lathes were ever made in the world, and about 10 of them were later converted to be used for conventional lacquer cutting. Georg Neumann GmbH was the only manufacturer the actual DMM cutting equipment as part of its VMS80 series lathes. Since the sale of Neumann to German microphone manufacturer Sennheiser, Neumann no longer produces lathes or supplies parts. As of 2009, there were only seven publicly-usable DMM cutting facilities left in the world, all located in Germany, Netherlands, or Czech Republic. US lost its last DMM cutting facility in 2005 with the closure of New York record manufacturer Europadisk. Europadisk's DMM lathe was sold at auction on 2005 to the Church of Scientology for US $72,500.
Mechanical is a poor choice of words... if anything digital playback sounds mechanical. Records are analog because the actual sound waves cut the groove, so the needle playing it back is as close to the original as you can get.
@@56squadron mechanical vs electronic, seems pretty spot on to me. It all ends up as analogy sound waves so analogue is a really poor choice of words. This record also started as a digital sound file from the looks of it, so its not always actually fully analogue.
@GuyB I discovered the truth about LP's and digital music when I put a record on my old LP (an album I had on CD) and was SHOCKED by how much MORE music I could hear. Digital recording cuts out a percentage of the actual recording. I can see why they're coming back.
For record pressing companies the times where hard between 1990 and 2010, they almost exclusively survived through that on the dance scene and dj hypes. Since 2010 the demand is rising and the presses are running overtime. My customer makes records as well, he went from 12 presses from the 1980's to 24 presses now, had to redevelop these presses himself as they aren't produced anymore.
A lot of thought went into even the idea of making a vinyl record. Man's ingenuity and determination is truly amazing at times. As an audiophile I will have a new found respect for my record collection. Thanks for the video!
Digital music sure threw a monkey wrench into that sector. It's crazy how powerful computers are, they're definitely going to be the demise of humanity.
It's possible to store audio with hi quality. They recorded an old music and it'll sound according to but if you listen to a new vinyl with modern songs you'll be surprised. They sound so good and very clean.
@@aussierob7177 Depends, if you're talking about a shitty mp3 than hell yeah. If you're talking about a completely uncompressed wav or a flac you will definitely not hear the difference. Digital audio has come a long way.
Yes! I have also seen this process as well! What a wonderful and fascinating creation th3e vinyl “records” are! If only digital music was this cool it would be great, but once music is digitized it no longer creates the true curve of sound signatures and degrades the actual signals. No more digital for me, I am fully vinyl now forevermore! Thanks!
My most sincere congratulations for your art. As a great admirer of music and the supports that allow it to be listened to, I have always had the utmost respect for vinyl and compact discs, even those of musical genres that I don't follow. This video demonstrates how much work goes into what many think is just a round piece of plastic...
Yes! When I was young I always wondered why does round piece of plastic sound so good? Now I am older and have seen this video! It has opened my eyes to the beauty and art that goes into record production! My upmost congratulations as well on such a phenomenal creation! My hat also goes off to them as well!
Самое смешное, что изначально звук пишется на цифру, с нее же подается на базовый диск. И уверен, ни одной лампы ни в каком УНЧ ни на одном этапе не присутствует. Но в виниле происходит чудо - появляется "теплый звук". 🤣 Кстати, а вы в курсе, что на винил (точней, на базовый диск) звук поступает с измененным АЧХ? Завышаются высокие и занижаются низкие частоты - такая горка с завышенной правой частью. А самый первый УНЧ, снимающий сигнал с "головы", имеет зеркальный АЧХ, чтобы привести его в норму. Далее звук усиливается нормальными УНЧ с ровной АЧХ. Это связано с механическими, физическими параметрами записи на диск и никуда от этого не деться. То есть если низкие частоты записать на диск нормально, то дорожка была бы шире в несколько раз, соответственно уменьшилось бы время звучания/записи. Либо нужно было бы уменьшить в несколько раз уровень сигнала, тогда на порядок вырастут шумы от УНЧ и механические. Поэтому был выбран такой компромисс. А вы говорите "теплый звук". Добавьте к любой записи легкое потрескивание и получите "теплое звучание". 🤣 Впрочем, понимаю, главное не звук, а магические действия: вытащить пластинку из пакета, слегка дунуть, поставить на проигрыватель, запустить вращение, подвести тонарм... Магия!
오래전에 djing을 바이닐로 시작했습니다 한창 플레이 할때 저만의 LP set을 위해 회현상가,동묘시장,홍대레코드샵을 전전하고 해외샵도 이베이도 이용하고 했죠 ㅎㅎㅎ 아직도 플레이를 했던 수많은 LP 전면부의 이미지와 그위에 새겨진 작은 스티커들이 선명하게 기억납니다 지금의 빠르고 정확한 스트리밍에는 느낄수 없는 LP 그 특유의 질감과 정전기, 바늘이 내는 노이즈 뒤에 흐르는 음악은 조금은 따뜻하고 아련한 무엇이 있는거 같습니다 말로만 듣고 알고만 있었는데 하나 남은 국내의 LP 제조공정을 이렇게 자세히 보니 신기합니다! 앞으로도 멋진 바이닐 레코드 제조회사로 더욱 더 번창하길 바랍니다
A customer of mine has a record pressing plant as well. Very cool to watch the production of records. Currently there are new presses made again which didn't happen between 1990 and 2015. A lot more is automosed over there, but also still a lot of handwork. Good that in times of more and more digital this old school technique prevails for lots of people.
@@francescozani9488 There are some trying to make new lathes but it takes time. I know Flo Kaufmann makes a couple of them per year in his shop in Solothurn using old Neumann bodies discarded from the war.
Go on, put us folk out of our misery and tell us who and where. The more that the knowledge of what is happening spreads the more demand there will be.
At least there are companies out there Still Making Vinyl Records! None of these new Streaming Websites will EVER stop these new Vinyl Records! Great Video!
Você sabia que no Brasil temos uma fábrica de Vinil também, e em pleno desenvolvimento? Ela se chama Vinil Brasil; É maravilhoso ver estes verdadeiros artistas trabalhando no indústria da gravação em Vinil!
Sim, o processo é praticamente idêntico. Acho que existem poucas diferenças na questão do maquinário, desta fábrica coreana, que é um pouco mais novo. Mas isso não diminui o mérito e a qualidade da Vinil Brasil. Até porque esses equipamentos não são mais fabricados. E quando dão problema, eles passam por reparos. A Vinil Brasil também faz uma inspeção sonora na matriz e depois visual nos discos prontos. E após uma tiragem de 50 cópias, eles fazem uma outra inspeção, que inclui a sonora, a fim de evitar falhas na produção.
Wow. I read in many books over the years about how vinyl records are made, but this really brings the process to life. Didn't realise just how many steps are involved. Thanks very much!
The magical process is the reduction silver that is sprayed on. You may notice there are two streams of liquid, one with silver the other with a reducer that makes the silver precipitate from solution and deposit on the shellac master to provide a near perfect impression of the cut grooves, backed with the electroplated (usually) nickel it forms the stamper to make the grooves in the vinyl almost exact copies of the cut grooves.
@@shtefjunja5915 It's a really subjective topic but vinyl fans believe that vinyl sounds "warmer" and more natural than CDs since it's an analog medium. IMHO there's truth to this but it requires the entire process (recording, editing, and creating the LPs) to be 100% analog, and that's not the case with most (if not all) modern recordings
@@w-rabbit I believe you are mostly correct, except you forgot the spray stage. I believe they're using a silver nitrate spray on that step, similar to how they make glass mirrors.
This video is the cleanest vinyl pressing facility I have seen on youtube. I also never saw the sanding procedure done before. Is it to give a better grip?
жаль что это корея, а наша мелодия давно в чермете(( хотя была бывозможность то же покупал винил, ибо и старых пластнок море, нравятся из журнала кругозор
@@infinity_eror я не большой знаток изготовления винила. Интересуюсь для общего развития. Не так давно, к примеру, смотрел процесс изготовления электронных ламп. Увлекательно.
We need Japan to start making vinyl again! And do worldwide distribution their technology is so good and they really put a lot of quality in their mastering
I appreciate this as I used to play albums and will soon resume playing them through my old JVC QL5 turntable. Just purchased a sweet cartridge to use for this. Interesting to see all the steps. From the acetate master cut on the lathe to the father, then the mother stamping plate and finally the vinyl albums produced.
В 80 -х наблюдал за производством пластинок в Апрелевке -большое производство , стояли наши и импортные машины литьевые .Получали там измерительные пластинки для настройки головок звукоснимателей .
Чаще всего такие пластинки поставлялись с оборудованием звукозаписи Neumann, с них снимали копии. Так же были калибровочные ленты для студийного магнитофона Studer, с которого, собственно, и велась запись (мастер-лента).
Very interesting and informative. I am surprised how many manual stages are performed purely by hand/eye. I am sure they are very skilled operators, but you would think that many of those operations have great leeway to introduce imperfections in the recording grooves. I thought the silver coat might have been vacuum deposited or electrostatically , but just spraying on with a "hose" I would never have guessed! Great video.
I was wondering about that as well. Looks like they had a master, then made a copy of the master, and then pressed records from that. I thought they would make copies right from the master. I guess the actual master is kept safe and isn’t used so they can make copies again. Interesting video.
@@CiscoWes They need to make a pressing master as the original master is a "positive" impression of the grooves. Using that one directly would create a "negative" print, so to speak. That's why they need to create a "negative" before they can make more "positives" again.
I remember seeing a film back in about 1950 or so that showed this same process for 78, 33 1/3, and 45 RPM records. The 78s were on their way out so to speak, the 33 1/3 were very expensive relative to the cost of the old 78s, and the 45s were the way of the future and very cheap. You could buy a 78 RPM for about $1-2.00 dollars (USD), the 33 1/3 records were in the range of $3.00 to perhaps $10.00 or more depending on the type of music (classical music records were very expensive while children's music, Christmas music, even religious music were much lower in price). The new 45 RPM records were about $0.75 cents each, or even cheaper, and remained in that price range for several years. The 45s were almost exclusively for the new Rock and Roll genre. I remember being amazed at how quickly the records were coming off the assembly line and finally understood why the manufacturing of records was always referred to as "pressing".
Awesome video. Being a audiophile for decades. Talking about the process of making LP’s this video is excellent in showing the hole process from the master’s then making the master stampers , thanks for the video.
in that stage the compressed air is used to dry it, not to keep it clean, next a sander is used to remove the edge to be able to open a double layer matrix - and all important analog information is inside - in between those two layers.
это сейчас они дорогие просто потому, что их делают в штучных количествах. на самом деле собрать оборудование для записи не очень сложно самому даже в домашних условиях, а пустые виниловые болванки под запись свободно в инете продаются. че хочешь то и записываешь на них. но можно и без виниловых болванок, раньше на рентгеновских снимках тайком от партии вообще записывали.
@@iam21h собрал я тут копию sx-74 со своими дополнениями типа сменных держателей для резцов. Да, работает. Охлаждение гелием, самариевые магниты, 150вт на канал, усилитель самодельный quad 606. Но вот стол собрать-зело дорогое удовольствие в свете нынешних событий. Пока лежат чертежи. Успел выточить только планшайбу.... Может и вернусь когда нибудь к этому... Когда всё закончится и изменится к лучшему...
Wow! As someone who still owns many hundreds of vinyl records, dating back to when i first started buying them in the 1970's, i found this absolutely fascinating. I don't play them anymore as the times and trends have changed, and over the years i updated many of them to CD, and now, like most people, i pretty much stream everything i listen to, (on Apple Music). But, i would never part with my collection. They will stay with me until i am no longer on this mortal coil. It is great also, to see the huge resurgence that vinyl continues to make. I read just recently that it has now overtaken CD's. How times change. Thanks for posting this! 🧿 💿
It is good to keep them as the sound quality and resolution on vinyl is much higher than CDs. CDs cap their sound frequency to 20000 hz, vinyl however can go upwards of over 100000 hz. Also, in terms of resolution it will also surpass CDs as CDs are 16 bit.
@@ellisgarbutt1925 Yeah, i understand that, but there is no possible way i could buy all of what i have on my AM (that i don't already own on vinyl and/or CD already). The current total stands at some three-and-a-half thousand (mostly) albums 😆
Muito boa essa reportagem, como colecionador de vinil ,sempre tive a curiosidade de saber como eram produzidos, valeu coreanos ,Belém do Pará Amazônia,Norte do Brasil .
Nunca tinha visto o processo do disco que é no caso a master, para em seguida fazer as cópias. É um trabalho belo e fascinante. Parabéns aos profissionais.
uma pena ter deixado para traz o principal , que é a captaçao e gravaçao analogica , nao tem graça gravar de origem digital como eles fizeram ae ., o Vinil em sua essencia todos os processos devem ser analogicos , captaçao, gravaçao , masterizaçao e por fim a prensagem , pegar um arquivo wave e gravar no vinil , ficara a mesma qualidade de um CD , o analogico puro é muito superior.
@@cybertechbh1481 eu faço remaster (Passo pra digital e faço o tratamento) de LP's tanto antigos da época em que o processo produtivos era todo analógico como das produções atuais. Por experiência própria o áudio dos Lp's atuais são oriundas de fonte digital, mas eles usam fonte em alta definição no caso 24bits/96khz, 24bits/192khz ou até mesmo uma fonte em 32bits 192khz pode ser usada, já que existe a alguns anos interfaces de áudio que gravam nessa resolução . No CD a resolução é de 16 bits/44,1khz, apesar da produção dos Lp's atuais ser de origem de áudio processado digitalmente, vale a pela converter para digital para ter o áudio em alta definição, visto que não existem serviços onde se possa compar. música , principalmente nacional em alta definição. Eu concordo com vc , é triste que os discos atuais seja feito de fonte digital, o correto seria que todo o processo de produção desde a gravação mixagem edição, masterização, até chegar a gravação no acetato, seja todo feito de forma analógica , usando os rolos de fita como era feito antigamente. É um processo bem trabalhoso sim , mas o diferencial é justamente esse, que todo o processo do áudio seja feito com equipamentos analógicos usando os rolos de fita. Isso traz uma sonoridade única que o digital mesmo com os plug-ins não consegue igualar, até pq o sinal analógico tem infinitos pontos e o digital tem um número finito(isso é determinado pelo número de bits). A medida que se aumenta a resolução da gravação digital, mais próximo fica do sinal analógico (infinitos pontos) , quando se faz 2^16=65,536, é o número de níveis possíveis que podem ser capturados do sinal analógico, quando se faz 2^24=16.777.216, se tem todos esse níveis que são capturados na gravação digital em 24 bits, absurdamente maior do que o número de níveis da gravação em 16 bits. O sinal analógico como já foi dito tem infinitos pontos, ou seja a gravação digital tenta se aproximar do sinal analógico quando vc grava com resolução cada vez maior , mas nunca é igual. Mas para efeito de qualidade 24 bits já a atinge um nível de qualidade de excelência dentro da faixa dinâmica do ser humano que é de 120DB, teoricamente uma gravação de 24bits chegar a 144 DB, mas na prática não chega a tudo isso pq existem limitações na eletrônica, os conversores atuais chegam próximo do 120 DB. O problema do vinil são os chiados, estalos, ruídos , que podem aparecer com arranhões , poeira, partículas diversas etc., mas quando se extrai essas imperfeições o som é inigualável. Concluído o sistema LP (Long Play) é um sistema de som de alta definição analógico, e é justamente esse o barato, por isso seria tão importante que se voltasse a produzir os mesmos em processo produtivo 100% analógico.
Yeah, gone are the days of selling tens of thousands of records in a run though. Would have been really neat to get a video of how the largest record production facilities did it back in the day.
@@markdunn2795 Yes, they are standard LP (33 1/3 RPM) records the same process for a 45RPM single. The 78RPM oldies were made with shellac in pretty much the same way, the groove cutter was MONO only with less bandwidth.
It's obvious that once all the prep work is done, the actual vinyl pressing is a breeze. Automation is a great tool. This plant does high end work, at premium prices. Quality in, quality out.
@@l0os176 Adele 30, sold 318,000 vinyl copies in two months. has to be well past 400k could be at 500k now. plenty of albums are selling over 20k press now. even niche labels can sell 10k+ of a desirable album.
0:28 - источник сигнала компьютер, запись в цифре. Это всё, что необходимо знать! Далее, в процессе производства мастер-пресса вносятся лишь дополнительные искажения. При штамповке ещё искажения. В итоге вы получаете музыку с динамическим диапазоном 50dB. Для кого-то это магия, которую можно лицезреть и подержать в руках ))
Вау это так красиво выглядит на самом деле. В первые вижу как они делаются на самом деле. В живую я их видел так как у моих родственников бабушки и у дедушки был проигрыватель и сами эти диски но как они делаются не когда в жизни не видел. За это огромное спасибо.
@@agatkz3446 , действительно! Была даже передача "Кружатся диски". А ещё был какой-то квадратный журнал с дыркой в середине, а некоторые из его страниц были голубой музыкальной гибкой пластинкой; и его можно было сначала читать, а потом слушать.
Essa é a primeira vez que vejo a fabricação de uma matriz para a reprodução das cópias do disco de vinil. Obrigado internet, já não vou morrer sem ver essa arte tão bela que fez muito sucesso no passado e ainda faz..
Espero que você tenha o prazer de apreciar ao vivo um disco de vinil em condições de alguma música que lhe agrade. É uma experiência única ouvir uma gravação mecânica e analógica girando e soando diante dos seus olhos. Você literalmente enxerga a música como ela é.
Ничего себе, сколько времени и точности нужно чтобы изготовить одну виниловую пластинку! В детстве я думал что можно с лёгкостью записать на пластинку музыку, но я не знал что полосатые круги играют в виниловой пластинке важную роль!
Я по началу тоже так подумал, сколько гемора нужно чтобы создать одну пластинку, а оказывается почти весь ролик это создание матрицы для этих пластинок, дальше они просто штампуются
@@ДмитрийКрайник-ы1у а если мысленно вернуться во времена, когда это только зарождалось и представить уровень оборудования, на котором все это делалось, вот тут еще больше задумаешься... Сейчас кнопочку нажал и сиди- жди. А "тогда"......
Потому что это когда то после войны вывезенная в Корею фабрика с оборудованием 30-40 годов прошлого века из расчета на дармовую рабочую силу. По факту например лазером можно изготавливать не мастер - диск, а сразу его негатив без нудной долгой и трудозатратной гальванической технологии, половина операции сразу отпадут.
O ser humano é muito inteligente, a gente às vezes não ideia do quão ele pode ser. Que está virtude contamine a todos em todo mundo. A gente merece! Precisamos no amar. Feliz Natal.
동양화성(東洋化成) 인가요? 이 회사는 한국에서도 많이 알려져 있습니다. '예전미디어" 라는 한국의 옛날 가요 전문 음반사에서 발매하는 LP레코드 시리즈가 일본 동양화성에서 제조되고 있습니다. 동양화성은 특히 품질면에서 우수하여 한국에서 좋은 평가를 받고있는 회사입니다. 東洋化成ですか？ この会社は韓国でもよく知られています。 「昔のメディア」という韓国の昔の歌謡専門レコード会社から発売するLPレコードシリーズが日本の東洋画省で製造されています。 東洋化成は特に品質面で優秀で韓国で高い評価を受けている会社です。
I love vinyls since ever, Black Gold. Never stopped buying them. BUT! How funny is it to hear people talking about wider frequency range of vinyls when the source is a 20k capped digital file. This worked back when the whole recording process was analogue with Studer/Tascam/Fostex tape machines in the studio, but not nowadays anymore. If the source is 20-20k Hz, the result can't be a 5 - 35k Hz experience. sad but true.
Very neat and probably cost-effective for small batches, but there's no way this method could have been used during the heyday of vinyl records. Although those days are behind us, I'm still glad there are people making vinyl records for us to listen to. Records really set the mood/atmosphere. Good stuff!
The basics shown here are exactly how all records are/were made. The difference is, once a master is made, many duplicates of it are created to enable multiple presses to be set up to speed the process of large runs.
That was really impressive, but I have one question- is this the same process used to produce the many billions of records sold in the 20th century? Seems labor-intensive, once the mould has been produced and set up. I'm guessing there's some amount of additional automation that's no longer possible due to low volume.
Even at peak production, the record production process is the same. It has hardly changed. Except that some aspects are now under computer control, allowing for more consistent quality control and maybe slightly faster production per press. But the number of presses used in record factories several decades ago was HUGE compared to the number of presses in operation today.
They would have used automated presses like the Toolex Alpha that can press a 12" in around 23 seconds, with dozens of presses running 24/7. Automated presses are still used today, I work in a plant that runs both. Not much has changed in the process for 60 years which is part of why I love working in this business. It's almost like going back in the past.
@@llary You're right, i've worked in the 90's decade in a Factory with 24 Toolex Alpha for 12" records and one for 7" records. They pressed an LP in 20 seconds.
Отлично! Запись волшебного винила осуществляется с проклятой цифры! Винил же в силу своей волшебности всё исправит, ну ещё поможет ламповый усилитель...😁
да можно ржать сколько угодно, но есть вещи, которые остались только на виниле в наш безумный век тырнета, какой-нить "задрот"коллекционер бережно сохранит, а сеть нет )
@@voloviks, вот интересно... Ты название ролика читал вообще? Ну, подскажу, не поленюсь. Здесь речь про нынешнее производство. Нынешнее! Разницу понимаешь?)
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HD-DVD...???
Korea musician are not for my ear. I prefer Japan
For those wondering (as I was), they were spraying the lacquer master (which is soft) with silver nitrate, then dipping it into a nickel bath to electroplate the master...essentially taking the soft lacquer and making a metal twin so it can then be use to stamp the vinyl (PVC) cookies in the press.
I thought, they would have changed to the DMM process completely, it eliminated this step and by the way, it's possible to extend the recording time to 30 minutes per side without audible impairment.
Both silver nitrate, and a solution that will cause the silver nitrate to react and deposit on the surface as pure silver. For the chemistry nerd, it's basically a spray-on Tollens reaction.
And doing that first is needed because of course, you can only electroplate objects that conduct electricity
@@robfriedrich2822 It's not possible. Only about 30 DMM cutting lathes were ever made in the world, and about 10 of them were later converted to be used for conventional lacquer cutting. Georg Neumann GmbH was the only manufacturer the actual DMM cutting equipment as part of its VMS80 series lathes. Since the sale of Neumann to German microphone manufacturer Sennheiser, Neumann no longer produces lathes or supplies parts. As of 2009, there were only seven publicly-usable DMM cutting facilities left in the world, all located in Germany, Netherlands, or Czech Republic. US lost its last DMM cutting facility in 2005 with the closure of New York record manufacturer Europadisk. Europadisk's DMM lathe was sold at auction on 2005 to the Church of Scientology for US $72,500.
@@honeysup that was some impressive knowledge on the topic.
@@honeysup why nobody produce them anymore?
This is why LPs are as much mechanical art as music. Never let them die.
That’s why I try to get as many as I can at thrift stores that are in good condition as those need saving the good misc
Mechanical is a poor choice of words... if anything digital playback sounds mechanical. Records are analog because the actual sound waves cut the groove, so the needle playing it back is as close to the original as you can get.
@@56squadron mechanical vs electronic, seems pretty spot on to me. It all ends up as analogy sound waves so analogue is a really poor choice of words. This record also started as a digital sound file from the looks of it, so its not always actually fully analogue.
@GuyB I discovered the truth about LP's and digital music when I put a record on my old LP (an album I had on CD) and was SHOCKED by how much MORE music I could hear. Digital recording cuts out a percentage of the actual recording. I can see why they're coming back.
@Phillip Banes LOLL you know NOTHING about audio technology. I won't even bother explaining to you the difference between analog and digital.
시대의 흐름에 따라 사라져가는 물건들이 많지만 오래도록 그 끈을 놓지않고 명맥을 이어가는 이런 업체들의 노력에 감사의 박수를 보냅니다👏👏👏
For record pressing companies the times where hard between 1990 and 2010, they almost exclusively survived through that on the dance scene and dj hypes.
Since 2010 the demand is rising and the presses are running overtime.
My customer makes records as well, he went from 12 presses from the 1980's to 24 presses now, had to redevelop these presses himself as they aren't produced anymore.
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A lot of thought went into even the idea of making a vinyl record. Man's ingenuity and determination is truly amazing at times. As an audiophile I will have a new found respect for my record collection. Thanks for the video!
really, a lot of thought?
didn´t just god give us the vinyl?
@@redwarf8118What? LOL
How true! 👍🤠
I'm not a vinyl person but when you see all the processes involved its somewhat amazing that vinyl sounds as good as it does.
if you see the music come form a computer in digital sound .
I will never underestimate the making of an LP again.
I will never understand the production of an LP.
@@davidswanson5669 .. 0:51 the most hilarious moment about "warm sound" here.
"mp3 128 kbps"
so , how about doing something in pure analogue? It looks like around 30 years ago. I do yet know how people edit these in analogue way.
Digital music sure threw a monkey wrench into that sector. It's crazy how powerful computers are, they're definitely going to be the demise of humanity.
it sure is a lot of work for some not so great sounding music.
This probably one of the best videos I've watched showing most of the process of making a record
For such old technology, it's still impressive how it's possible to store audio on a vinyl record.
It's possible to store audio with hi quality. They recorded an old music and it'll sound according to but if you listen to a new vinyl with modern songs you'll be surprised. They sound so good and very clean.
En 16 rpm el sonido es mucho mejor, y se podia grabar películas en ese formato, el disco laser dejo obsoleta esa producción, saludos
And the sound is so much better than digital.
@@aussierob7177 Depends, if you're talking about a shitty mp3 than hell yeah. If you're talking about a completely uncompressed wav or a flac you will definitely not hear the difference. Digital audio has come a long way.
I have loved vinyl all my life, and I’ve actually never seen the process of how they are made. This was intriguing!
Yes! I have also seen this process as well! What a wonderful and fascinating creation th3e vinyl “records” are! If only digital music was this cool it would be great, but once music is digitized it no longer creates the true curve of sound signatures and degrades the actual signals. No more digital for me, I am fully vinyl now forevermore! Thanks!
My most sincere congratulations for your art. As a great admirer of music and the supports that allow it to be listened to, I have always had the utmost respect for vinyl and compact discs, even those of musical genres that I don't follow. This video demonstrates how much work goes into what many think is just a round piece of plastic...
Yes! When I was young I always wondered why does round piece of plastic sound so good? Now I am older and have seen this video! It has opened my eyes to the beauty and art that goes into record production! My upmost congratulations as well on such a phenomenal creation! My hat also goes off to them as well!
We might see vinyl records making a permanent comeback into the public mainstream, especially when they're being made in America.
Очень приятно наблюдать этот завороживающий процесс создания виниловой пластинки. Фирме желаю процветания, а корейцам удачи в этом деле!
а кацапам бажаю виздихати
Да. Но, По-моему слишком грубая работа для 21 века. Не так ли? Или уже утратили технологии? Выглядит так, что это, примерно 1965 год...
@@DerVico Ну так предложи новую технологию.
Самое смешное, что изначально звук пишется на цифру, с нее же подается на базовый диск. И уверен, ни одной лампы ни в каком УНЧ ни на одном этапе не присутствует. Но в виниле происходит чудо - появляется "теплый звук". 🤣
Кстати, а вы в курсе, что на винил (точней, на базовый диск) звук поступает с измененным АЧХ? Завышаются высокие и занижаются низкие частоты - такая горка с завышенной правой частью. А самый первый УНЧ, снимающий сигнал с "головы", имеет зеркальный АЧХ, чтобы привести его в норму. Далее звук усиливается нормальными УНЧ с ровной АЧХ. Это связано с механическими, физическими параметрами записи на диск и никуда от этого не деться. То есть если низкие частоты записать на диск нормально, то дорожка была бы шире в несколько раз, соответственно уменьшилось бы время звучания/записи. Либо нужно было бы уменьшить в несколько раз уровень сигнала, тогда на порядок вырастут шумы от УНЧ и механические. Поэтому был выбран такой компромисс. А вы говорите "теплый звук". Добавьте к любой записи легкое потрескивание и получите "теплое звучание". 🤣
Впрочем, понимаю, главное не звук, а магические действия: вытащить пластинку из пакета, слегка дунуть, поставить на проигрыватель, запустить вращение, подвести тонарм... Магия!
@@staspustovit сжимается динамический диапазон
오래전에 djing을 바이닐로 시작했습니다
한창 플레이 할때 저만의 LP set을 위해 회현상가,동묘시장,홍대레코드샵을 전전하고 해외샵도 이베이도 이용하고 했죠 ㅎㅎㅎ
아직도 플레이를 했던 수많은 LP 전면부의 이미지와 그위에 새겨진 작은 스티커들이 선명하게 기억납니다
지금의 빠르고 정확한 스트리밍에는 느낄수 없는
LP 그 특유의 질감과 정전기, 바늘이 내는 노이즈 뒤에 흐르는 음악은 조금은 따뜻하고 아련한 무엇이 있는거 같습니다
말로만 듣고 알고만 있었는데 하나 남은 국내의 LP 제조공정을 이렇게 자세히 보니 신기합니다!
앞으로도 멋진 바이닐 레코드 제조회사로 더욱 더 번창하길 바랍니다
Love that blue vinyl!! Thanks for sharing this magnificent process!
신음반의 LP가 제작되는데 꽤 걸리는 이유가 있었군요... 이렇게 장인정신에다가 손이 많이 가다니... 앞으로는 LP를 더 소중히 여겨야겠네요
この技術はこの先もずっと受け継がれていって欲しいなぁ
Me too
A customer of mine has a record pressing plant as well.
Very cool to watch the production of records.
Currently there are new presses made again which didn't happen between 1990 and 2015.
A lot more is automosed over there, but also still a lot of handwork.
Good that in times of more and more digital this old school technique prevails for lots of people.
Wow, new machinery to make records, that's really good news!
@@francescozani9488 There are some trying to make new lathes but it takes time. I know Flo Kaufmann makes a couple of them per year in his shop in Solothurn using old Neumann bodies discarded from the war.
Go on, put us folk out of our misery and tell us who and where. The more that the knowledge of what is happening spreads the more demand there will be.
How do one get tracks of choice on record
I'm in South Africa & it's a hustle to find records after the elections in 1994
I absolutely love this video. Thank you for showing us the precision task of pressing a record.
How awesome!
Музыка это душевная составляющая для человека.
Вы делаете огромное дело.
СПАСИБО ВАМ 👏👏👏👏👏
At least there are companies out there Still Making Vinyl Records! None of these new Streaming Websites will EVER stop these new Vinyl Records! Great Video!
Você sabia que no Brasil temos uma fábrica de Vinil também, e em pleno desenvolvimento? Ela se chama Vinil Brasil; É maravilhoso ver estes verdadeiros artistas trabalhando no indústria da gravação em Vinil!
Sim, o processo é praticamente idêntico. Acho que existem poucas diferenças na questão do maquinário, desta fábrica coreana, que é um pouco mais novo. Mas isso não diminui o mérito e a qualidade da Vinil Brasil. Até porque esses equipamentos não são mais fabricados. E quando dão problema, eles passam por reparos.
A Vinil Brasil também faz uma inspeção sonora na matriz e depois visual nos discos prontos. E após uma tiragem de 50 cópias, eles fazem uma outra inspeção, que inclui a sonora, a fim de evitar falhas na produção.
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Wow. I read in many books over the years about how vinyl records are made, but this really brings the process to life. Didn't realise just how many steps are involved. Thanks very much!
The magical process is the reduction silver that is sprayed on. You may notice there are two streams of liquid, one with silver the other with a reducer that makes the silver precipitate from solution and deposit on the shellac master to provide a near perfect impression of the cut grooves, backed with the electroplated (usually) nickel it forms the stamper to make the grooves in the vinyl almost exact copies of the cut grooves.
I was born 1960 and could never believe that we still today 2022 produce phonograph records! 😁
Greetings to Korea 🇰🇷 from Japan 🇯🇵
I thought it was outdated, 👍💖✌️🙏 Super Korea..!💖💖💖🙏🙈👍
Vinyl LPs now outsell CDs, believe it or not!
@@chrisfreemesser5707 can u tell me reasons for that.isnt cd beter quality then vinyl?
@@shtefjunja5915 It's a really subjective topic but vinyl fans believe that vinyl sounds "warmer" and more natural than CDs since it's an analog medium. IMHO there's truth to this but it requires the entire process (recording, editing, and creating the LPs) to be 100% analog, and that's not the case with most (if not all) modern recordings
@@shtefjunja5915 mp3's are compressed audio
와.. 다른 영상은 보면 대략 아... 이런 과정이겠구나 싶은데, 이번편은 봐도 뭘 하는 과정인지 잘 모르겠어요... LP판 하나에 저렇게 많은 정성이 들어가다니... 감동입니다
처음 음악을 틀어 바늘로 철판에 홈을새깁니다 그리고 원본철판에 금속을 도금함 그럼 반대로 양각으로 철판이 만들어짐 그걸 틀에넣고 플라스틱을 눌러찍으면 원본 철판과 같은 음악이 새겨진 음각의 레코드판이 완성
@@w-rabbit I believe you are mostly correct, except you forgot the spray stage. I believe they're using a silver nitrate spray on that step, similar to how they make glass mirrors.
라커(원원판)에 소스(테잎이나 디지털파일)를 새긴다
라커를 세척하고 은도금을 한다
은도금한 라커에 니켈도금을 한다
반전상이 새겨진 니켈판을 벗긴다
정중앙을 맞추고 옆면을 잘라낸다-스탬퍼(원판)완성
앞뒷면 스탬퍼를 프레스에 세팅하고 앞면라벨-PVC펠릿을 녹인 블랭크-뒷면 라벨 순으로 넣고 프레스로 누른다
디스크 모양대로 가장자리를 자른다-디스크 완성
대부분의 영상 초반의 작업은 원본을 만드는 과정이고 이후에는 찍어내는 과정임
What?
Просто удивительное зрелище, я не смог оторваться, хоть и знал, что пластинки через матрицу печатают. Здорово, что еще остались такие предприятия.👍
Так их и в России производят.
@@mmontana73 В каком городе и кто?
@@mmontana73 МируМир что ли фирма? Дак производство не у нас.
@@axelmak6868 Ультра Продакшн. Только качество там плавает.
Просто правителями взят курс на средневековье, научно-технический прогресс будет тормозиться.
이 척박한 국내 음반 시장에서 대단한 일을 하고 있는 회사라 생각 합니다.
박수 받을 만한 일을 하고 계십니다 !
É incrível a produção do vinil , uma obra de arte , não deve nunca acabar 👏👏👏👏👏👏
This video is the cleanest vinyl pressing facility I have seen on youtube. I also never saw the sanding procedure done before. Is it to give a better grip?
i agree most videos ive seen looks like its being done in the back room of a car shop with grease and crap all over the place
The singer was Henry Burr (Canadian Harry McClaskey) who made thousands of records from roughly 1904 - 30.
He is one of the few remaining Mastering engineers who can do vinyl.
Прямо волшебство! После таких видео понимаешь, почему хороший фирменный пласт недёшево стоит!
Я только не понял: почему пластинки из ПВХ?! Виниловая смола с содержанием винилацетата 12-15% и шеллак где?
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Современные технологии однако.
@@Kafulso , ок, но почему пластинка такими волнами? Это пластинка такая горбатая или диск проигрывателя?
@@---1521 шеллак давно не используется. С конца 50-х делают из винилацетата.
Очень интересное и удивительное производство. Спасибо за видео!
жаль что это корея, а наша мелодия давно в чермете(( хотя была бывозможность то же покупал винил, ибо и старых пластнок море, нравятся из журнала кругозор
@@spk1571 купить можно, но они стоят дороже чем сам проигрыватель
Благодарю!!! Радует, что осталось производство.
Корейцы в этом плане вообще молодцы, ничего не выбрасывают (в плане изобретений)
Ага, станки древние, как дерьмо мамонта...
@@tutengeymkovsky8365 есть лучше варианты?
@@xexex7017 Лазерная гравировка?
@@infinity_eror я не большой знаток изготовления винила. Интересуюсь для общего развития. Не так давно, к примеру, смотрел процесс изготовления электронных ламп. Увлекательно.
We need Japan to start making vinyl again! And do worldwide distribution their technology is so good and they really put a lot of quality in their mastering
Besides the Christmas music, this video was completely amazing!
I appreciate this as I used to play albums and will soon resume playing them through my old JVC QL5 turntable. Just purchased a sweet cartridge to use for this. Interesting to see all the steps. From the acetate master cut on the lathe to the father, then the mother stamping plate and finally the vinyl albums produced.
Is there such a thing as a bitter cartridge?...
@@demef758Yes, they're bitter because they can't reproduce the sound as faithfully as the digital file the master was made from.
Amazing! I have the same Audio Technica turntable.
와..이런 공정으로 레코드판이 만들어지는줄 몰랐네요...신기합니다...
I am glad that owner of our Czech factory was that smart that they didn't throw those machines away and now we have almost monopoly for making LPs. 🙂
Dá uma satisfação incrível só de ver o processo do vinil.
В 80 -х наблюдал за производством пластинок в Апрелевке -большое производство , стояли наши и импортные машины литьевые .Получали там измерительные пластинки для настройки головок звукоснимателей .
Чаще всего такие пластинки поставлялись с оборудованием звукозаписи Neumann, с них снимали копии. Так же были калибровочные ленты для студийного магнитофона Studer, с которого, собственно, и велась запись (мастер-лента).
This is a very excellent documentary video of how LP disk produced👍
What a great work,super cool.
Saving old music in it's traditional and original form, genius!
This was a great relaxing video to watch just before bed time. Record making is seemingly an art form. 💿
Very interesting and informative. I am surprised how many manual stages are performed purely by hand/eye. I am sure they are very skilled operators, but you would think that many of those operations have great leeway to introduce imperfections in the recording grooves. I thought the silver coat might have been vacuum deposited or electrostatically , but just spraying on with a "hose" I would never have guessed!
Great video.
I was wondering about that as well. Looks like they had a master, then made a copy of the master, and then pressed records from that. I thought they would make copies right from the master. I guess the actual master is kept safe and isn’t used so they can make copies again. Interesting video.
@@CiscoWes Correct. Laqure discs are masters that produce Mother discs for the stamper copies.
@@CiscoWes They need to make a pressing master as the original master is a "positive" impression of the grooves. Using that one directly would create a "negative" print, so to speak.
That's why they need to create a "negative" before they can make more "positives" again.
Can give soul to the discs also, sometimes perfection is not the best
This is why more than half the vinyl out there is riddled with clicks straight from the factory.
너무 신기해요!!! LP를 들으면서 어떻게 제조할까 너무 궁금했는데, 이렇게 보여주시다니 감사합니다 . LP도 정말 한장한장 아기처럼 소중하게 제작되네요. 지금 갖고있는 LP더 소중하게 다뤄야겠어요
no te entiendo una mierda lo que escribiste
Супер!
Как хорошо что этим ещё кто-то занимается!
Так их и в России производят.
@@mmontana73 И много ли Мелодия штампует хороших пластинок? На их сайте видел лишь каких то ноунеймов и из старых запасов продажу
@@unclechayka1178 сейчас, что-то изменилось ? или всё познаётся в сравнении ...😂😂
щас вышли неплохие переиздания классики, прикупил себе новую мелодию, вполне себе годно@@voloviks
Perfect and real sine wave sound! No scratch, no rumble! Pure sound!!
This is art, the physical form of music.
очень познавательно и круто!
I remember seeing a film back in about 1950 or so that showed this same process for 78, 33 1/3, and 45 RPM records. The 78s were on their way out so to speak, the 33 1/3 were very expensive relative to the cost of the old 78s, and the 45s were the way of the future and very cheap. You could buy a 78 RPM for about $1-2.00 dollars (USD), the 33 1/3 records were in the range of $3.00 to perhaps $10.00 or more depending on the type of music (classical music records were very expensive while children's music, Christmas music, even religious music were much lower in price). The new 45 RPM records were about $0.75 cents each, or even cheaper, and remained in that price range for several years. The 45s were almost exclusively for the new Rock and Roll genre. I remember being amazed at how quickly the records were coming off the assembly line and finally understood why the manufacturing of records was always referred to as "pressing".
Believe it or not, CD, DVD and blue ray are pressed also
Awesome video. Being a audiophile for decades. Talking about the process of making LP’s this video is excellent in showing the hole process from the master’s then making the master stampers , thanks for the video.
There is more to the manufacturing process than the hole...
@@demef758 sure is👍
@@demef758 Glad I watched the Whole process.
I love how in the first stages they meticulously, clean it with little puffs of air along the way keeping it clean. The next scene, a belt sander. 😮
in that stage the compressed air is used to dry it, not to keep it clean, next a sander is used to remove the edge to be able to open a double layer matrix - and all important analog information is inside - in between those two layers.
Every video I watch with Koreans reinforces how much they care about everything they do. Lovely people.
처음부터 수작업
정말 장인이십니다
감사합니다 요즘 LP판의 매력에 빠진 50대중반으로 너무도 감사할 뿐입니다
이번은 각 과장마다 설명이 필요한 영상인거 같아요 ㅎㅎㅎ
LP판 제작하는 것이 반도체 웨이퍼만큼이나 세밀하군요!!
와.. 진짜 겁나 신기하네요.어떻게 저런 설비를 만들었지
Это удивительно. всегда было интересно, как производят Виниловые пластинки и почему они такие дорогие. Спасибо вам за видео
это сейчас они дорогие просто потому, что их делают в штучных количествах. на самом деле собрать оборудование для записи не очень сложно самому даже в домашних условиях, а пустые виниловые болванки под запись свободно в инете продаются. че хочешь то и записываешь на них. но можно и без виниловых болванок, раньше на рентгеновских снимках тайком от партии вообще записывали.
Мда..неужели весь сегодняшний прогресс не позволяет их клепать попроще.
@@bobr.kurwaN1 штучное количество делают проще, а на видео штамп создают для партий в тысячи шт
@@iam21h собрал я тут копию sx-74 со своими дополнениями типа сменных держателей для резцов. Да, работает. Охлаждение гелием, самариевые магниты, 150вт на канал, усилитель самодельный quad 606. Но вот стол собрать-зело дорогое удовольствие в свете нынешних событий. Пока лежат чертежи. Успел выточить только планшайбу.... Может и вернусь когда нибудь к этому... Когда всё закончится и изменится к лучшему...
EXCELLENT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ITS A DREAM,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Saludos Mundomakina
I'm glad that vinyl is coming back into fasion! ❤ Greeting from Hungary!
Wow! As someone who still owns many hundreds of vinyl records, dating back to when i first started buying them in the 1970's, i found this absolutely fascinating. I don't play them anymore as the times and trends have changed, and over the years i updated many of them to CD, and now, like most people, i pretty much stream everything i listen to, (on Apple Music). But, i would never part with my collection. They will stay with me until i am no longer on this mortal coil. It is great also, to see the huge resurgence that vinyl continues to make. I read just recently that it has now overtaken CD's. How times change. Thanks for posting this! 🧿 💿
It is good to keep them as the sound quality and resolution on vinyl is much higher than CDs. CDs cap their sound frequency to 20000 hz, vinyl however can go upwards of over 100000 hz. Also, in terms of resolution it will also surpass CDs as CDs are 16 bit.
Cds are way bette in kpbs than streaming cds are 1,411 KPBS apple music is only 256
@@ellisgarbutt1925 Yeah, i understand that, but there is no possible way i could buy all of what i have on my AM (that i don't already own on vinyl and/or CD already). The current total stands at some three-and-a-half thousand (mostly) albums 😆
Break out the turntable. Just say no to streaming!
@@andrewlim300 Not so much for new vinyl, as the vast majority of music, is now recorded on a DAW and mastered digitally.
台灣1970年代，黑膠唱片壓製我看過，但像這種連母版 一貫作業系統的規模，倒是第一次見識到，厲害了 高麗國！ 🤩🤩🤩
스틸 원판에 음원을 녹음하여 여러 제조공정을 거친후 원료가 합성 플라스틱인지 몰라도 파란색의 원료 덩어리를 틀에 너어 대량으로 복사하는건 처음 봤네요... 이런식으로 LP판이 생산되는걸 알게되어 뜻깊은 영상 이었습니다.
Muito boa essa reportagem, como colecionador de vinil ,sempre tive a curiosidade de saber como eram produzidos, valeu coreanos ,Belém do Pará Amazônia,Norte do Brasil .
우와~ 진짜 너무 신기하다! LP 바이닐은 손이 엄청 많이 가는군요!
Vinyl is divine format for listening pure analog audio.comeback vinyl..Congratulation from India.🙏🙏🙏❤
notice the digital source music in the video.
¡Me encanta! Gracias por compartir.
Interesting Technics turntable... Audio-Technica fixture with an Ortofon pickup :D
Das waren noch Zeiten, als man die Musik auf dem Tonträger noch SEHEN konnte. ;-)
Nunca tinha visto o processo do disco que é no caso a master, para em seguida fazer as cópias. É um trabalho belo e fascinante. Parabéns aos profissionais.
uma pena ter deixado para traz o principal , que é a captaçao e gravaçao analogica , nao tem graça gravar de origem digital como eles fizeram ae ., o Vinil em sua essencia todos os processos devem ser analogicos , captaçao, gravaçao , masterizaçao e por fim a prensagem , pegar um arquivo wave e gravar no vinil , ficara a mesma qualidade de um CD , o analogico puro é muito superior.
Exato!🖒👀 não faz sentido além que uma fita Mestre bem gravada é melhor que uma digital e a ideia é reproduzir em ANALÓGICO. 🤔
Boa noite parceiro dúvida sabe dizer se pode usar outro tipo de plástico para fazer os discos
@@cybertechbh1481 eu faço remaster (Passo pra digital e faço o tratamento) de LP's tanto antigos da época em que o processo produtivos era todo analógico como das produções atuais. Por experiência própria o áudio dos Lp's atuais são oriundas de fonte digital, mas eles usam fonte em alta definição no caso 24bits/96khz, 24bits/192khz ou até mesmo uma fonte em 32bits 192khz pode ser usada, já que existe a alguns anos interfaces de áudio que gravam nessa resolução . No CD a resolução é de 16 bits/44,1khz, apesar da produção dos Lp's atuais ser de origem de áudio processado digitalmente, vale a pela converter para digital para ter o áudio em alta definição, visto que não existem serviços onde se possa compar. música , principalmente nacional em alta definição.
Eu concordo com vc , é triste que os discos atuais seja feito de fonte digital, o correto seria que todo o processo de produção desde a gravação mixagem edição, masterização, até chegar a gravação no acetato, seja todo feito de forma analógica , usando os rolos de fita como era feito antigamente. É um processo bem trabalhoso sim , mas o diferencial é justamente esse, que todo o processo do áudio seja feito com equipamentos analógicos usando os rolos de fita. Isso traz uma sonoridade única que o digital mesmo com os plug-ins não consegue igualar, até pq o sinal analógico tem infinitos pontos e o digital tem um número finito(isso é determinado pelo número de bits). A medida que se aumenta a resolução da gravação digital, mais próximo fica do sinal analógico (infinitos pontos) , quando se faz 2^16=65,536, é o número de níveis possíveis que podem ser capturados do sinal analógico, quando se faz 2^24=16.777.216, se tem todos esse níveis que são capturados na gravação digital em 24 bits, absurdamente maior do que o número de níveis da gravação em 16 bits. O sinal analógico como já foi dito tem infinitos pontos, ou seja a gravação digital tenta se aproximar do sinal analógico quando vc grava com resolução cada vez maior , mas nunca é igual. Mas para efeito de qualidade 24 bits já a atinge um nível de qualidade de excelência dentro da faixa dinâmica do ser humano que é de 120DB, teoricamente uma gravação de 24bits chegar a 144 DB, mas na prática não chega a tudo isso pq existem limitações na eletrônica, os conversores atuais chegam próximo do 120 DB. O problema do vinil são os chiados, estalos, ruídos , que podem aparecer com arranhões , poeira, partículas diversas etc., mas quando se extrai essas imperfeições o som é inigualável. Concluído o sistema LP (Long Play) é um sistema de som de alta definição analógico, e é justamente esse o barato, por isso seria tão importante que se voltasse a produzir os mesmos em processo produtivo 100% analógico.
@@leandroribeiro6144 esse manja do assunto
Meus parabéns amigo
I find it fascinating that someone developed both the technique and the equipment for the process
I agree there were so many stages where the process could affect the end product. Such skill!
Many different people developed the technique, equipment and proccess at different times in history
Parabéns por manter vivo este trabalho !
제작과정 영상들 많이 봤지만...
뭔가 한장면도 스킵없이 눈을 떼지 못했네요
요즘엔 LP 색 파랑색으로 바뀌었네요 ㅎㅎ
In the 80s and 90s a record production facility would print around 100 lps per minute. This is already a more artisan and quality-oriented process
Yeah, gone are the days of selling tens of thousands of records in a run though. Would have been really neat to get a video of how the largest record production facilities did it back in the day.
Are those made for record players
@@markdunn2795 Yes, they are standard LP (33 1/3 RPM) records the same process for a 45RPM single.
The 78RPM oldies were made with shellac in pretty much the same way, the groove cutter was MONO only with less bandwidth.
It's obvious that once all the prep work is done, the actual vinyl pressing is a breeze. Automation is a great tool. This plant does high end work, at premium prices. Quality in, quality out.
@@l0os176 Adele 30, sold 318,000 vinyl copies in two months. has to be well past 400k could be at 500k now.
plenty of albums are selling over 20k press now.
even niche labels can sell 10k+ of a desirable album.
반죽같이 생긴 것을 눌러서 찍어 내는 것만 봤지 이런 전 처리 과정은 처음 보내요~ 귀한 영상 잘 보고 갑니다.^^
I really enjoyed watching this manual process, it was fascinating!
Next time I run into a vinyl snob I'm going to show them this... Its digital before its cut into metal, before pressed into vinyl. Hilarious!!
I still, and probably never will understand how a record actually works. I've had it explained to me 100 different times and I still can't fathom it.
It begins with simple vibration. Look at a record groove under magnification. I could explain it to you better than your friends can
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0:28 - источник сигнала компьютер, запись в цифре. Это всё, что необходимо знать! Далее, в процессе производства мастер-пресса вносятся лишь дополнительные искажения. При штамповке ещё искажения. В итоге вы получаете музыку с динамическим диапазоном 50dB. Для кого-то это магия, которую можно лицезреть и подержать в руках ))
Да, пальто уже не то...
@@Sonrazuma покупал всё время из детского мира .... а потом и его прикрыли 😂😂
Amazing!
@@СергейЧистосердов-я6с парнишка Серёга с русской фамилией Чистосердов, написал какоет слово амазинг🤣😅
@@voloviks в переводе с английского - впечатляюще
Вау это так красиво выглядит на самом деле. В первые вижу как они делаются на самом деле. В живую я их видел так как у моих родственников бабушки и у дедушки был проигрыватель и сами эти диски но как они делаются не когда в жизни не видел. За это огромное спасибо.
В былые времена их называли "пластинки", а не диски. И они были чёрные, и всегда двусторонние.
@@webarchitect еще были гибкие пластинки и цветные, а не только черные.
@@webarchitect Не всегда были черные и не всегда двухсторонние. На счет пластинок верно, но и дисками тоже называли в 80-е годы.
@@agatkz3446 , действительно! Была даже передача "Кружатся диски". А ещё был какой-то квадратный журнал с дыркой в середине, а некоторые из его страниц были голубой музыкальной гибкой пластинкой; и его можно было сначала читать, а потом слушать.
@@webarchitect Кругозор журнал назывался этот
Probably the best phonograph record making video I've ever seen.
Essa é a primeira vez que vejo a fabricação de uma matriz para a reprodução das cópias do disco de vinil. Obrigado internet, já não vou morrer sem ver essa arte tão bela que fez muito sucesso no passado e ainda faz..
❤🎉
Espero que você tenha o prazer de apreciar ao vivo um disco de vinil em condições de alguma música que lhe agrade. É uma experiência única ouvir uma gravação mecânica e analógica girando e soando diante dos seus olhos. Você literalmente enxerga a música como ela é.
파란색 LP판은 처음 보네요. 항상 검정색이었는데. 아무튼 이게 플라스틱으로 만들었다니 신기합니다.
Personalmente me gusta más el color negro.
Ничего себе, сколько времени и точности нужно чтобы изготовить одну виниловую пластинку! В детстве я думал что можно с лёгкостью записать на пластинку музыку, но я не знал что полосатые круги играют в виниловой пластинке важную роль!
Я по началу тоже так подумал, сколько гемора нужно чтобы создать одну пластинку, а оказывается почти весь ролик это создание матрицы для этих пластинок, дальше они просто штампуются
@@ДмитрийКрайник-ы1у а если мысленно вернуться во времена, когда это только зарождалось и представить уровень оборудования, на котором все это делалось, вот тут еще больше задумаешься... Сейчас кнопочку нажал и сиди- жди. А "тогда"......
Потому что это когда то после войны вывезенная в Корею фабрика с оборудованием 30-40 годов прошлого века из расчета на дармовую рабочую силу. По факту например лазером можно изготавливать не мастер - диск, а сразу его негатив без нудной долгой и трудозатратной гальванической технологии, половина операции сразу отпадут.
Excelente video muy bueno te felicito 👍 👏
10:19 - Song matches the cause "reprint :D
Vinyl records have their own quality with sound.
Довготривалий процес та коштовний. На що не підеш заради мистецтва!
Melhor vídeo, muito lindo ❤️🙏
the manufacturing process is very artistic just like those who play an instrument by composing music... 💕
O ser humano é muito inteligente, a gente às vezes não ideia do quão ele pode ser. Que está virtude contamine a todos em todo mundo. A gente merece! Precisamos no amar. Feliz Natal.
日本にも一箇所だけLPレコードの製造工場が残っています。お互い末長く受け継がれていって欲しいですね。
일본에도 LP 레코드 제조 공장이 한 곳만 남아 있습니다. 서로 오래오래 이어졌으면 좋겠어요.
동양화성(東洋化成) 인가요? 이 회사는 한국에서도 많이 알려져 있습니다. '예전미디어" 라는 한국의 옛날 가요 전문 음반사에서 발매하는 LP레코드 시리즈가 일본 동양화성에서 제조되고 있습니다. 동양화성은 특히 품질면에서 우수하여 한국에서 좋은 평가를 받고있는 회사입니다.
東洋化成ですか？ この会社は韓国でもよく知られています。 「昔のメディア」という韓国の昔の歌謡専門レコード会社から発売するLPレコードシリーズが日本の東洋画省で製造されています。 東洋化成は特に品質面で優秀で韓国で高い評価を受けている会社です。
I love vinyls since ever, Black Gold. Never stopped buying them. BUT! How funny is it to hear people talking about wider frequency range of vinyls when the source is a 20k capped digital file. This worked back when the whole recording process was analogue with Studer/Tascam/Fostex tape machines in the studio, but not nowadays anymore. If the source is 20-20k Hz, the result can't be a 5 - 35k Hz experience. sad but true.
Very neat and probably cost-effective for small batches, but there's no way this method could have been used during the heyday of vinyl records. Although those days are behind us, I'm still glad there are people making vinyl records for us to listen to. Records really set the mood/atmosphere. Good stuff!
The basics shown here are exactly how all records are/were made. The difference is, once a master is made, many duplicates of it are created to enable multiple presses to be set up to speed the process of large runs.
@@joeshmoe7967 lol exactly. they just had a lot more workers.
That was really impressive, but I have one question- is this the same process used to produce the many billions of records sold in the 20th century? Seems labor-intensive, once the mould has been produced and set up. I'm guessing there's some amount of additional automation that's no longer possible due to low volume.
Even at peak production, the record production process is the same. It has hardly changed. Except that some aspects are now under computer control, allowing for more consistent quality control and maybe slightly faster production per press. But the number of presses used in record factories several decades ago was HUGE compared to the number of presses in operation today.
They would have used automated presses like the Toolex Alpha that can press a 12" in around 23 seconds, with dozens of presses running 24/7. Automated presses are still used today, I work in a plant that runs both. Not much has changed in the process for 60 years which is part of why I love working in this business. It's almost like going back in the past.
@@llary Neat! Interesting job. Thanks for filling in the missing details, cheers.
@@llary You're right, i've worked in the 90's decade in a Factory with 24 Toolex Alpha for 12" records and one for 7" records. They pressed an LP in 20 seconds.
Отлично! Запись волшебного винила осуществляется с проклятой цифры! Винил же в силу своей волшебности всё исправит, ну ещё поможет ламповый усилитель...😁
И отслушанные конденсаторы с проводами из бескислородной меди и стрелочками с направлением движения звука! :)
ну это сейчас с компа а раньше с мастер ленты
да можно ржать сколько угодно, но есть вещи, которые остались только на виниле
в наш безумный век тырнета, какой-нить "задрот"коллекционер бережно сохранит, а сеть нет )
@@voloviks, вот интересно... Ты название ролика читал вообще? Ну, подскажу, не поленюсь. Здесь речь про нынешнее производство. Нынешнее! Разницу понимаешь?)
>вот интересно...
@@ЮрийХ-к8я то что тебе интересно поговорить, я поняла )
нынешнее производство, как с моей мессагой не вяжется ?
Stupendo 👏👏 vinil Forever 🎵🎵🎵🎵🎸🎸🎸🎸🎹🎹🎹🎹
Great !!!