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Horizons - Martins Complete Ultimate Tribute
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2017
- The fifth in my brand new Futureworld re-edits, and a real labour of love.
Follow the development of the pavilion from a GE fair in Futureworld west to the pavilion it eventually became in Futureworld East. See how the story evolved, the ride developed, how the track and show scenes were designed and laid out and then watch as the pavilion went from nothing to dedication in 19 months.
And then, take the trip you've always dreamed of in a 40 minute, multi camera extravaganza. As much detail has been covered as possible, every show scene, every projection. Each projection screen has been flicker reduced or eliminated, each shot of the ride enhanced where possible. Walk into the pavilion and begin your journey in the Futureport to see the trio of destinations available aboard Horizons One. Follow the queue and then take you seat for a continuously moving omnimover ride from the past and into the future. Highlights include complete source quality loops of all 3 Movies of Yesteryear screens, the full Omnimax loop, and all 3 ending choices in full and of high quality.
Audio wise, each animatronic conversation is clean live but is in full and with hopefully the clearest quality audio available to date. Each spiel was edited together from dozens of recordings for completeness and the best available quality. All sound effects are clean and enhanced, and the musical score and in-car narration is of course of source quality.
Many call Horizons the best dark ride ever.
I hope I've done it justice.
71 minutes long.
I was an "imagineer" at MAPO / WED from 1979 - 1982 and built the "barber shop man" at timecode 33:26. I never got to go to Epcot to see him in action or any of the other figures I built at EPCOT at the time. Disney notoriously underpaid employees but I didn't care because it was a fun place to work, so I couldn't afford to make the trip. I have a photo of me at my work bench with the "barber shop man" almost complete but apparently You Tube doesn't allow image posts in its comments. Someday I may post it on my blog and link to it.
My main reason of this post is to thank you from the bottom of my heart to finally see my figure in action. You are providing a very valuable service to this community and I can rest knowing I have finally seen him operating and I have you to thank for that. All the best to you!
See this is the real purpose of the internet. I never thought I'd get to holla at the person who made the barber shop dude. I spent a significant portion of my later childhood and early teens on Horizons. Best ride ever. My hat is off. If you ever get that photo up, link it, I'd like to see it.
@@jgassman Thanks for letting me know that you liked the "barbershop dude". I have a picture of me working on him on my LinkedIn page at www.linkedin.com/in/michael-dean-11b5037/
The picture is highly discolored with age but you should be able to make out what he looks like on the inside.
@@wingsovermikey That's a great shot! Thanks for posting that. Love the Pat Benatar poster too lol
Thanks for being part of a great experience!
Thank you for your work and dedication! I was fortunate to see and experience this attraction in its glory days!
Normally, I love The Sherman Bros.' compositions, but I'm honestly glad Disney used George Wilkins and Tom Fitzgerald's score and theme instead. The latter honestly fit this attraction much better than the former.
“If we can dream it, we can do it”
YES WE CAN, YES WE CAAANNNN!!!!!!
im a rico torrez form denver colorado
🎵Horizons where dreams do come true🎵
🎵New Horizons for you and for me🎵
“Hey that’s some destination”
Rip that famous epcot ride that brought the whole park together Horizons 1983-1999 you will be missed by many epcot fans
I wish there was a billionaire disney fan who would rebuild it to its former glory.
What a trip that would be , I was 8 years old in 1986 when I was there.
Oh the nostalgia!
Thank you Martin for the video.
And let's not forget Hoot and Chief.
RIP Chief
Just finished watching. Watching this video should be mandatory for all senior Disney executives who are trying to jam IPCOT down our throats. This is what built the company. This video was a roller coaster of emotions....happiness of memories riding my my own 3 kids and sadness I can never bring my new grandchild on it to experience. I'm so glad that Martin didn't include any pictures of them tearing down the building. That would be very sad.... And in its place we got a soulless attraction.
Fun fact a space attraction was always planned but it had a complicated history.
I always LOVED Horizons, and so did all my kids...and THEIR kids, the ones born long enough ago to have experienced this wonderful ride. If i close my eyes, i can still feel the breeze and smell the orange groves!!!!
yes the oranges !!!! ---teardrop----
I am sure of one thing! If Walt Disney was still around, he would have loved Horizon ! x)
You know, what surprises me the most about Horizons is that a lot of its predictions were more accurate than we thought.
The ride imagined a future where we have space stations, can manipulate the environment, have high-speed transportation, and even video communication, all of which we have today.
Yea and let's hope we can have robot butlers to.
We had all of those things in 1983 too. Not discounting the ride at all, just saying.
My favorite Disney ride ever, I was fortunate enough to ride it many many times! It was like going to another world!
I love how Disney knows EXACTLY what us EPCOT Center fans want. Getting rid of Horizons, replacing Captain EO, putting Nemo in The Living Seas, making Figment a middle school prankster, making a middle aged man miserable, turning a ride about the mythology and economy of Norway into a Frozen boat ride, closing down most of Innoventions, not reopening WoL, and possibly tearing down UoE. Man, Disney DEFINITELY knows what we want!
You know the way Disney is going with EPCOT it will become Movie Character Center. So sad bc EPCOT still my favorite park.
Give it some time and see what Disney has planned with the money they're putting aside for Epcot's upcoming new additions/changes. My hopes aren't high, but they're apparently promising new additions to the park that are more in tune with the old vision of Epcot, so there's at least some tiny glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.
You two are right. Personally, I've never actually been to EPCOT Center as it was (I was born in the early 2000's, what do you expect?), I have been to Epcot, since I lived just 40 minutes away (now I live 8 days away in Washington) and while I love Test Track (2.0, to be exact), Spaceship Earth, and the two rides at the Land Pavillion, I feel like they should just take everything else away. Revive the Seas. Reach for newer Horizons. Breathe life back into the Wonders of Life pavillion. Update Universe of Energy (although Ellen's humor transcends time). Use their imaginations to make a JoI with the Imagination Institute while also incorporating Dreamfinder.
Bring back the Maelstrom. Turn Innoventions back into Communicore (or at least add Tom Morrow from Disneyland's Innoventions).
I heard that once, you could only see Disney characters in the opening ceremonies, and usually that was just Mickey Mouse. Now, you see characters everywhere taking over the rides. I want to make Epcot into EPCOT Center again. A park with a focus on the future.
Horizons was a great ride, but in order to have kept it open they would've had to do a 100% overhaul of everything in it, otherwise it would have been extremely out of date. It would seem pretty funny seeing the scenes of "the future" as it was envisioned in the early 80's, it just wouldn't make sense. I remember going on it before it closed and even then it seemed very dated.
You're definitely not wrong, but to add to what you've said, the ride building was notably leaky toward the end of the ride's lifespan. The vast majority of the water damage to the ride couldn't be easily seen (though from what I've seen from the Mesa Verde Times blog's pictures of the damage that could be seen from the ride, it seemed to all be in the space areas toward the end of the ride), and it made some cast member/maintenance areas impassable and/or dangerous, so I'm sure that had something to do with its closure as well.
So sadly, to keep it open as it was would've required them to fix the leaks in the building and completely replace various set pieces/maintenance catwalks. Would've been timely and expensive, especially without a sponsor.
Fantastic as always! Better visuals and details. One shot inside the ride that I was always fascinated by was when you pick your ride home, the ride vehicles tilted back and if you looked to the right you saw those weird fins flipping down next to your face so you couldn't see the trip home other people picked. It was like clockwerx magic how it turned into a tiny simulator. So ahead of its time. Can you imagine running an Omnimax projector ALL DAY projecting those visuals?
When I need to cry while onstage or just generally, I think of this.
Best Epcot rides of '84, Horizons, Journey into Imagination, World of Motion, Spaceship Earth, The Land and Universe of Energy.
And hands down the best dark rides in the World at that time and maybe even still to this day because of the complete
heart and soul the Imagineers and everyone involved put into Epcot. And because Roy was there to carry Walt's vision, intent and spirit
through to the end.
Wow, that intro music dripped of 80's nostalgia in the best possible way!
This ride predicted EVERYTHING.
It makes me sad that I never got to experience this ride in person. After seeing it with my own eyes I can see why so many people loved this attraction and wished it had never been replaced by Mission Space. This attraction blended all the best elements of Future World together and made excellent use of the technology at the time to bring it to life. As I passed by each scene I really fell in love with the characters and the lives they were living in these futures. The science fiction used for these scenes was bold. We often get dark dismal futures in modern fiction, so to see these bright optimist futures is such a chance of pace. I wish we would be brave enough to dream up futures like these once again.
this was my favorite Epcot ride as a kid. I always wanted to live in that apartment in the future city. Everytime I smell orange citrus it reminds me of Horizons.
I have never clicked on a video this quickly in my life, much less a RUclips notification
It's said that Horizons was the best dark ride ever made; I agree
This is what WED//WDI excelled the most at in the 1980 and 90s: original ideas and content, with NO movie influence!! This was truly an inspiring attraction in the true spirit of EPCOT. Let's hope that someday that WDI get to do this again for EPCOT. I feel so lucky to have seen this in 1990. Thanks for making this awesome video!!
Horizons closed for the first time only 21 days after I was born. I never would've had a chance to see it for myself. That's just really sad!
That's why you can enjoy it here.
Incredible! Next best thing to riding it. Although you probably see more in this video that you did while riding. I even saw a few things I have never noticed. The original pavilion plans! OMG! So good! Thank you for all the hard work!!!!!!
YES! My absolute favorite pavilion, and possibly my favorite of your tributes! Let's get into it!
It's very sad when a good ride closes. Like a death in a way.
@Dennis Mitchell actually Michael Eisner closed Horizons
Dennis Mitchell actually the CEO before Eisner opened Horizons due to Horizons opening in 1983 and Eisner starting in 1984
Yeah, if people like an attraction, I don't think it should be taken out, especially at Disney World with all that space. Walt Disney said, "Give the public what it wants." So Mr. Toad, Horizons, Maelstrom, etc. should have stayed, IMO.
@@as25437 there shit heads never should had that power. Egos kill good places
I desperately miss this era of Imagineering
No IPs (or at least not in Epcot), every ride a brand new original idea, nothing was made extremely cheap
I really hope something changes because I can’t stand to watch Epcot turn into a dumping ground of ride ideas that should be in Magic Kingdom, just like what happened to Hollywood Studios
Have FULLY appreciated, since the first time I ever watched this tribute, the use of the music from the original EPCOT souvenir program! 🥰👌🏼
Brilliant video Martin, the ultimate reference and technical documentary on EPCOT Horizons! 💙💯👌🏼 O.O.K
I loved this ride, so many trips on it, still miss it dearly. So thanks for bringing it back to life.
When EPCOT opened in 1982, the world was in awe. And for good reason. I miss those days. :-D
And now we're gonna lose it to Disney IPs. >:)
Martin: THANK YOU VERY MUCH! This was my favorite ride at EPCOT and I rode it every chance I could get. I *SO* wanted to walk the sets. I'd made an appointment with one of the cast members to do so the following week. Alas, a friend needed to be picked up from the airport at that same time. I was sad. However, I've seen videos of a couple of people who did just that; albeit without permission. By this time the ride's attendance had dropped off enough that they could get off the ride and hide in the set without anybody knowing about it. The video was very interesting.
This does bring up an important point, though. As much as I absolutely *loved* Horizons, it wasn't getting very good attendance in the end. People's tastes had changed and it was probably considered boring by most. Not much point having a pavilion most people won't visit. :-(
Granted, they're in the same boat with Mission: Space now. I missed Horizons, but did like Mission: Space at first. Sadly, the shiny wore off _really_ fast (could not tell you why). Now the space race game after the ride is a different story...that sucker is stupidly FUN!
BTW, thank you for getting the narration changes in this. I've always been bugged that histories of this ride doesn't include that fact; especially the "Don't tell our daughter or she'll want to move up here", bit. For some reason, I always remembered the original line.
{sniff} Thanks again for this. It was wonderful. :->
Martin - OMG! OMG! OMG!!!!! Thank you so much for this exquisite video of Horizons!!!!! New graphics for the ride path! Great music!! Detailed historical info!!! I've studied Horizons for years, but I learned new details from this video!! My hats off to all the videographers who captured all the angles of all the scenes and to you for ferreting them out on the internet!!! Your editing is AMAZINGLY SEAMLESS, Perfection, ehhh... place more superlatives here!!! Thank you! Thank You! Thank You!!!
This one really broke my heart. It was and will always be my Fave at Epcot. I believe Disney totally dropped the ball with Future World. So sad. I guess they were too busy concentrating on building up the parks overseas to try to find new sponsors for the attractions here. Once again, Thanks for sharing!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!! It's the closest I'll ever get to riding Horizons!! It's so so beautiful thank you so much!! Horizons really had too short of a lifespan. You definitely did it justice.
Martin. Thank you for this. It is so good to know that the EPCOT we all know and love has been preserved this way. I know I am not the only one who misses the original and the way Disney wanted us to be better people and dreamers of the future. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I know I speak for a lot of us. Thank You!!!!!
Thank you for making this. I have probably seen every video of Horizons made, but yours is the best. I went to Epcot when I was twelve way back in 1985 and Horizons left me in awe. I have never forgotten it. It really was the greatest ride ever made, and I will never understand why it was demolished. Tragic would be a good word. It seems like everything that made Epcot so magical back then is gone. I feel sorry for all the generations that never had a chance to take a trip to Mesa Verde and really be inspired by an optimism for a better future.
This makes me cry. It shaped my childhood.
Thank you Martin! Takes me back! I so miss Horizons.
I was at work when this uploaded and I had to keep myself from screaming in joy. This ride and Journey Into Imagination (which I'm excited to see in this series!) were my FAVORITES when I went as a kid, once in the early 90s and the last time was in 1998 (I remember Test Track soft opened that year I think? I remember going on it anyway, back then I had no idea they replaced World of Motion with that, found that out years later as an adult). GOD I would give anything to have this come back. Actually, if I ever win the lottery where I get billions of dollars, I want this ride built in the back of my mansion, lol. And I'll make sure everyone gets the chance to ride it, not just me, cause I think everyone who either has or has not been on it deserves the chance to see it in person. It was creative, innovative, educational and so much fun, the very traits that made EPCOT Center what it was. Too bad they lost those traits nowadays. It's a mere shell of the greatness it once was.
Heather I agree. I am currently reflecting on the loss of figment from the first Journey into imagination and my dinosaur friends at universe of energy. So sad😭
figment is in the 3rd version of journey into imagination
I feel the exact same way! If I became a multi-millionaire or above I'd build a recreation of this ride!!!
Maybe we could convince Bill Gates to become a sponsor of a ride/pavilion that has elements of Wonder of Life (Body Wars, Cranium, Goofy exercising and Horizons. That would be amazing!
I’m still pissed about this one. Probably the best examples of what Disney did best back in the days. I actually miss the educational and story telling days of Epcot.
I'm almost crying because this allows me to relive one my most happiest memories of my childhood that I wish I could share with my son. I won't have that in today's Disney Parks because of how much change for the worst. 80s and 90s was Disney's peak for me when imagination, passions, and innovation were masters here.
Thank you Andrew for your interest in a photo that was taken by a Disney staff photographer of me building the "barber shop man" mentioned in my last post. You can find the photo at www.flickr.com/photos/mikey1719/33167821958/in/dateposted-public/
The photo has weathered quite a bit, and hope you can see most of it. I am the guy in the white smock on the right. The guy on the left photo bombed the picture because it was a staff photographer and he just wanted to be in the photograph. We were all machinists and I built the barber shop man from scratch. They gave me a butyrate body and an art director told me what they wanted the figure to do. I built the entire figure except the head (we had a section that only built the heads) skeleton with bearings in the appropriate locations to look natural, built the hands, built linkages for the robotic arms (scissors, comb and brushes) installed the hydraulic actuators to all moving parts (actuators were custom built in the shop), plumbed the actuators and attached the cut pieces of butyrate, all without any blueprints at all. After that it went to wardrobe, paint and programming.
That's awesome!!
This video is really well done. This was my favorite ride when my parents took me to Epcot in the 90's. What a shame that Disney replaced it...
So glad to see all these old riders that I never got to ride.
It looks like G.E.'s CEO contributed some good ideas. I usually don't think of corporate sponsors as having good creative input.
Another amazing video Martin! I love that you had the source video for the movie screens throughout etc. Nice touch! Thanks for always putting together such amazing dedications like this. Those that grew up loving this ride will always appreciate the work you do!
Nice job Martin. Its going to take me a while to shake the goosebumps from the film score in the Brava Centauri scene.
Childhood memories unlocked 😭 MAN do I miss EPCOT of the 90s. It's all character driven now and even Mission Space had absolutely no line last week.
You're a star Martin. The one I'm waiting for is Disneyland and Magic Kingdom tributes to mr toad's wild ride and for it's a small world for all parks. Great video as usual man.
Bring Back Mr. Toad
Thank you Martin for making these tributes. Cant tell you how glad i am to watch these on the 40th Anniversary of Epcot.
He's an absolute legend isn't he! 💝👌🏼
I wish I had a time machine
I truly believe we will get to experience this in VR one day
@@Palidor19 Possibly from the Defunctland team. I really hope. They did a great job with 10,000 Leagues Under The Sea.
god this video brings me back to my childhood . a much better and happier time. Thanks for putting this together martin. Greatly appreciated
I loved this ride. I want it back!! I cry a little thinking about these rides that are gone. The singer in the tv singing There's a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow looks familiar. I always wondered who it. He looks like the late Howard Ashman, who helped write and compose songs for Disney films and Broadway. I wonder if it's him.
I am glad that I had the chance to experience horizons. It should have been updated but it permanently closed down instead. Nice tribute martinsvid.net. I always rode this ride three times just to experience each ending.
Wow! Sadly I never had a chance to ride Horizons so I never understood the fan base for the attraction. Your video definitely helpes me to understand why everyone loved it so.
Great job! 👍🏻
Thank you so much for these videos Martin. I just got off spaceship earth thanks to you! You do a really fantastic job putting these together. I started going to Disney world in 1988 and Epcot has been and always will be my favorite of the parks. Thanks again for the joy you provide with these videos ✌️ ❤️
I went to Disneyworld in 1989 & 1991 as a child. Going to Disneyworld in 2018 with my parents and brother to experience it as an adult was amazing. When I went on the Carousel of Progress, I instantly remembered that ride. Thank you for posting this video Martin. I remembered the family but was wondering what happened to all the future shots and now I know it was because it was part of Horizons. I distinctively remembered the robot with all the dishes! So sad that Horizons and Wonders of Life are closed now. Glad I was able to experience these and relive them through RUclips.
I truly can't believe this ride was destroyed, it's early on par with if not more impressive and classic than pirates.
I love Horizons Ride It's My Favorite😎👍✌️💙💜🧡💖💗
This ride changed my life at 9 years old and shaped my future. Now degreed in aerospace and I can say this ride had a lot to do with it. Miss it with all my heart. With tears 😔 this ride was a miracle. I still can’t believe it’s gone.
We're going back to WDW for the first time in 11 years, and while I'm very excited, it would be that much greater if I knew I had this to look forward to. Disney needs to understand how to balance the need to update with our need to feel nostalgia! I'm not sure if Walt himself understood that. They're too close to the trees, but we are not. We see the whole forest, and loved it from the first time we stepped in, and we want to experience it again and again and again. It never gets old. Thanks Martin, you've given us back a part of the nostalgia!!
Thank you Martin ... I always love these videos on my favorite "vintage Epcot" rides (or at least the way they were back then in the early 90's .... also love seeing the different facts about the rides that I'd never know about.
Well what can I say other than. .. EXCELLENT JOB with this upload! ! There's beautiful music from the first Epcot souvenir program vhs that I've always wanted to hear without narration over the top! ! Thank you ☺☺😊😊
The BEST ride in Epcot. Then Disneyco. turned the whole into just another Pretty-Princess-Land for the 1%.
I love the hidden mickey inside of the space station.
Excellent video! The details are impressive and very much appreciated!
Epcot has devolved itself.
Yay! I can watch this one on my iPad. Thank you. More that I can do that with would be so appreciated since these help me chill.
katariah thank you. RUclipss ban on "mobile device" playback is something they enforce depending on the material I use; I'm afraid I have no control over that.
I'm so glad that this ride/adventure is available to all to see. Thank you for making this video. This was one of my favorite rides at EPCOT back in the day.
I have to thank you again, as Horizons is very near and dear to me. The detail and information you brought to this experience is much more than expected! You always do great and in-depth work, but this one feels like it was for me.
For all of the losses of the Classic EPCOT Center rides and pavilions, this one probably stings the most for me. I remember riding it at the beginning as a teen, and through the years. There was just something wonderful and fascinating about it. I miss it a lot. However, sometimes I think that it being demolished and replaced may have been better than the alternative. By that, I mean, if they had gutted all the wonders and put some cheesy overlay on it, that would be rough. As it is now, Horizons will live on in our memories pristine and untouched by things similar to Ellen's Energy Adventure and Journey into your Imagination.
I broke the camera in the VIP lounge once. I pressed a button and you saw the image fall rapidly. i was 7 at the time maybe that had something to do with it lol.
I think that your videos are the best at taking the history and creation of Disney attractions and condensing them into well edited videos! But have you ever considered using a voice narration? For me I think that I would remember the information easier and would have more attention on the images and videos!
Just wanted to say, fantastic work. I've only seen a handful of your videos, but I can tell a lot of work and care goes into them. I'm looking forward to checking out more of your content!
Horizons remains my all-time favorite. This video is a fitting tribute. Great job!
Excellent tribute to Horizons. Very detailed and well done 👍.
Thanks Martin for allowing me to feel like I'm there. I wish I grew up the 80's. Can't wait for more ultimate tributes! Keep up the good work!
Amazing video, Martin! Thank you for bringing my favorite ride at Epcot back to life!!
Thank you SO MUCH for reediting and uploading this one. Horizons has always had a very special place in my heart. And this is even better than the old video I got off of MouseBits ages ago. I particularly like the animations when you're breaking down how the track worked. Well done!
Wow. You never cease to amaze me with your video-editing mastery, Martin.
Absolutely amazing work as always, Martin. I watch this every six months or so and it only gets better.
Horizons was my most favorite Disney attraction ever. Really miss it. It was just great. I tell my kids about it how cool it was. I wish they could have seen it.
You can still see it in Epcots soul just because the rides gone dosent mean it still dosent exsist in the heart of EPCOT.
Excellent work putting this together! Thank you! The best part of the ride was the transition tunnel in and out of the OmniMax Theater.
This was the best ride in the park. Hasn’t been topped yet.
YES I've been waiting for this video!! Thank you Martin!
So well done! Thank you for such beautiful work!
Really been waiting for this one Martin! Thank you !!
Thank you so very much for making this video, it’s without a doubt the best Horizons video I’ve ever seen. All of your videos are filled with incredible information, an amazing amount of hard work and dedication. Thank you
oh how i wish i could have rode it but i am to young. still a huge fan of the ride and hope they bring it back one day. lets dream and build the future together im sorry but i haft to say the motto in this comment of horizons. If we can dream it we can do it, yes we can.
Please keep doing what you’re doing. We all appreciate it and need it!
Great memories , Thank you😃
I love your videos! So nostalgic… They are the best!
Happy 40th Birthday Horizons!
I remember this ride well. The logical extension of the Carousel of Progress. Walt Disney's spirit lived on in this attraction. It was a shame to see it go.
This ride closed a few months after I was born so I never got to ride it. But man I wish I could have, the ride looked so epic and imaginative. If I could ride rides I never got to experience, this would be at the top. There seems to be a renewed interest in the ride, so maybe Disney will reopen a new version in the future.
Holy cow, is this really well done! Wish I could like it multiple times.
Where did you get some of these ambient Horizons themes? I have a few, but not all these variations. Enjoy playing them in the background as I work.
What an awesome video! :D I think I remember riding this as a kid in. the 90s somewhere before it closed in 1999. I thought the ride was really cool. Oh man I miss rides like this with an amazing concept. I hope whatever changes are coming to Epcot will be good changes to keep what Epcot is and hopefully new concepts to be something similar of Walts Epcot.
Stunning job!! Well done, much appreciated
I Miss Horizons😩😩😩😩😭😭 😭😭 😭💙💜🧡💖💗
Me to RIP Ride
If you listen to the Horizons theme music, you can hear the same six notes in the GE commercial jingle "We Bring Good Things to Life" in it.
It's sad how much Epcot has replaced. EPCOT Center. Never been to WDW and it's not a priority as I think the WDW I want to see is in the 70s and 80s. Looking back, how good have things really been since the Disney Decade began? Maelstrom, Horizons, World Of Motion and Wonders Of Life are all casualties of the past 20 years or so while existing attractions(for the time being in some cases) like Imagination and Universe Of Energy have changes that brought downgrades in the eyes of many. It doesn't seem like WDW does the cool opening ceremonies they used to, like when Lucie Armaz rode Space Mountain with Lyle Waggoner and Tommy Tune. Even the Kids Of the Kingdom showed up for the splashy Horizons opening. And what on earth is with Spaceship Earth being surrounded by a graveyard and twin dead malls? At leadt living in AZ means I can get my Disney fix for less and quicker with Disneyland in the state next door.
Great job and great memories. Thanks so much.