Todd, like you, I saw the science you presented, believed in it, then simply committed to watching your videos consistently, started to practice (home and on range), and begin to see my swing become SO MUCH MORE consistent. I was a former PGA teaching professional so my ability to adapt from two-plane to single was pretty quick; your information is priceless…but ONLY for those who get the science behind the swing…Appreciate your priceless content
I committed to the swing and now I can’t understand why everyone doesn’t. I see my friends struggle and they see how much my game has improved. I started 5 years ago, now I’m 70 and had my best year ever. I shot 75 twice year. If I’m not playing I’m at the driving range. Like Moe said, “hard work, can’t beat it...hard work can’t beat it “
Years ago I used to try to smash the ball. I had this huge backswing and tried to get all of this club head speed in order to hit the ball a mile. I was golfing with someone one time and they suggested shortening my backswing. That was what it took for me to become conscious about my overall swing dynamic. My drives improved immediately and then my iron play followed. I was following through to the hole and I was conscious of my swing towards the hole. My accuracy was way better because I eliminated a narrow set of circumstances into becoming square to the pin. Moe’s philosophy is rock solid. I don’t care if you can hit the ball 350, if you can’t hit it accurately it isn’t worth diddly squat. I have watched the pros play pro courses and the ones that are the most successful are the ones that consistently hit the ball in a strategic location in the fairway. If you spray the ball, you are going to have a long day. As I got older I learned to play a more strategic game that put the ball in the best position for my next shot. Young players try to charge the flag and get themselves into trouble trying to hit par fives in two. Like I say, that distance doesn’t mean anything if you can’t control it.
It's all about hitting the ball straight.... and this is the easiest way to go about it... but it takes a lot of practice... once you get it.... you won't go back. Todd is the best.
Im 60 and used the single plane swing all summer i was 93-103 prior, over the top 30-40 yd L to R. Played about 88 times this summer and 93 was a bad score. Never broke 80 but was close a ton. I cant say enough positives about this swing, especially after having both hips replaced, no stress or strain on the back or hips. Keep up the great work!
That was a great one. I am making the transition to the single plane. You make a great point in the beginning that applies to many parts of life beyond golf - that it is not about trying so much as committing to something. Once you decide, 'I am going to do this,' you will. However successful you are, you will be more successful than if it is an experiment. Appreciate your channel - your approach to everything is simple and authentic.
Thanks for the Great content Todd .. I am working on this this Great concept of swinging a Golf club on a single plane.. I had lost my way with my swing after not playing for a while I always had problems with swing inconsistencies.. I had played to a decent standard after breaking a course record which still stands after 14 years .when i came back to golf my game was so bad I nearly gave up until I came across Todd's single plane swing and now things are changing dramatically .So thanks for showing how a swing can be so much easier to complete..
When the light switch turns on for you to try this method, you will *never* go back to your previous method of hitting a golf ball. Moe's swing style/method/whatever is what all golfers should be learning. I tell all my golf mates all throughout our round that they are holding the club wrong, swinging on the wrong plane, etc...come on now :-) I have to make them question their every move don't I. I mean we have a quarter riding on every hole and it adds up! :-)
As a Canadian , I had heard of Moe Norman . I just wish I'd have gone to the single. plane swing years ago. I was a hockey player and it is as natural as hitting a slap shot. Thank you Todd Graves for making golf so much easier. Cheers. Paul Szep
Hi Todd. I 100% agree with the Hammer theory. As a Joiner I have used a hammer for 36 years, one thing I will say is, because of the way a hammer is held when used properly this theory promotes a very strong grip (which i have) so there has to be literally no rotation at impact or this would promote a hook. Hence the term for a strong grip being a hookers grip, but that will only occur if you rotate the hands on impact.
I'm 57 and used many hammers/axes, etc, so it makes sense to me also. I've also used a few (grass) sling blades with the big double sided blade, and they're motion is most definitely on a single plane! *We've all seen the old movies (Cool Hand Luke) where the prisoners are cutting grass with them* Didn't you mean to "not" rotate the hands at impact? I would think rotating would be a terrible idea. I'm guessing a typo?
Great video Todd. I've been a believer of this swing method from the first time I saw it. Sure I have good and bad shots, but have never considered going back to a traditional swing plane.
Todd, nice job. I can’t get power like you do in the video because I don’t engage my hands. They are passive. And there isn’t a weight shift from what I can see. Power then is a result of what ? 😊
Been watching your content for 2 days now and I have started using this swing. I have found it works well for me. I am in the process of trying to adopt this little by little as I learn more. I have not come across why Moe puts the club so far behind the ball. Can you help me understand this part of the swing set up/ technique?
Isn’t hammering with the back of the left hand aligned with the hammer face a weak position? If you hammer a nail using only your lead hand the natural and stronger position is more palm down and hinging on the snuff box. Yes or no?
Great work Todd, I’m staring my journey on the single plane, I have your book, alignment tool, impact bag, the pipe rod, I’m practicing the positions static no ball hitting, how much time should a spend on that before hitting balls?? Or do I do both? I’m planning signing up with your coach 90 day program, but until then what do you recommend for indoor practice/training Thanks Todd keep up the good work
Good question. There is a lot to unpack here. What you are asking is the difference between static and dynamic practice. Here is a detailed explanation. Static practice is the ability to find your range of motion or lack there of. In other words static position is two-fold - 1) Can you achieve the position: are you flexible enough and strong enough and 2) Can you Repeat the Position (do you have it programmed). The Second Phase is the Dynamic phase or being able to put the positions into sequence and blend the positions. This should be done slowly at first. Then the third phase is to add speed. (You must be able to walk before you can run). The training tools you purchased are designed for specific parts of these phases, for example, the SPPT is designed for Static positions and then dynamic. The ABT is designed mostly for Dynamic practice. The Impact Bag can be used both Statically (Impact) and Dynamic - adding speed. What I highly recommend is that you allow the coaches to help you as you move through these phases by sending video to them through out your learning process. Hope this helps.
Another analogy comes from raking leaves. Look at your body position and hip, shoulder, arm and hand movements as you propel those leaves into the pile. Just more biomechanics to consider. Thanks, Todd, for the concise and precise explanations.
Question: if you start out in ulnar deviation, don’t we go into radial deviation in the backswing? We don’t stay in ulnar. Haven’t we now created angle that we have to deal with? Then you go from ulnar to radial back to ulnar. If it’s a space issue, can’t that be solved by standing further away?
It just looks like that setup, that swing, that club set up so far behind the ball, he’d pull every shot. But he didn’t I know, what’s the key to not pulling it? Thank you Todd. I do love the whole idea though.
Thanks Todd, waiting for tomorrow to arrive from work so i can practice a bit more the hammer grip. Btw i would like to comment i been practicing a couple weeks now, and i feel like my left hand pinky like... it gets stuck in the night. feel like a tendon or a nerve is getting pressed or something on left hand (maybe by hitting that place, remember Moe marks in the left side hand, where he called here in the meat), anyone else getting this? Btw im playing normal stock grips. Thanks
I have committed myself to the One Plane swing for about 1 month and it is working really well but I have developed a pain in my left elbow (right handed). Am I doing something wrong with my arm? I never had this until I started this new swing? Any suggestions please?
Probably tendonitis from the lead arm position / different than your conventional swing. Make sure you warmup your joints, elbows, wrists etc before you hit balls and play.
Todd: In a video from 2001, Moe says he improved his swing after reading Manuel de la Torre's book, “Understanding the Golf Swing.” What change did Moe make and was it during the time you were working with him?
Jeff, sorry to barge in here but I am familiar with Manuel's technique as I was tutored by one of his disciples...anyways, Manuel teaches his own hybrid version of Ernest Jones, 'swing the club head.' This is based on a pendulum concept. I truly believe that Moe and Todd have harnessed the true pendulum method utilizing one plane instead of two planes. I'm not saying you can't be successful using the two plane pendulum concept but the one plane is so much more efficient. If you consider Ernest Jones shot a 64 with one leg, then he had literally no body rotation or leg lift. This is embodied in the one plane swing. If you look at Moe and Todd their legs stay pretty much planted (i.e. not much rotation).
The traditional golf "pro" teaching does not recognize the one plane-ness of the arm and club at impact. The impact position is natural, it is embedded in all of us - proof in point, go to any range and there is always a young junior whos just starting - watch the junior's setup and swing, it's ALWAYS one plane. Junior does not start on a 2 plane swing, that is INTRODUCED. I took me a long time to realize this and the Single Plane Swing solved one of my biggest, persoanl issue with the golf swing - SPACING (the lack of it)...but that's another topic for Todd. It's funny, when I was a good, low cap player & hard core 2 plane swing, I use to laugh at Natural Swing commercial. Now, I've shot some of my best golf under the Natural Golf Swing aka the Norman/Graves Single Plane swing, who's eating humble pie now... Yes, it is different. I do stand out from my foursome. But the Norman/Graves package (full and short game) is taking all the money from foursome and they hate it. Good thing, they are too stubborn to learn and persist with their 2 plane swing 😁 Love all the professional videos, contents & topics Todd, Merry Christmas to you & all your folks at Graves Academy 🎅🎄🎀
Todd, like you, I saw the science you presented, believed in it, then simply committed to watching your videos consistently, started to practice (home and on range), and begin to see my swing become SO MUCH MORE consistent. I was a former PGA teaching professional so my ability to adapt from two-plane to single was pretty quick; your information is priceless…but ONLY for those who get the science behind the swing…Appreciate your priceless content
Believe in Yourself. ✨🎯 thanks for sharing Todd
I committed to the swing and now I can’t understand why everyone doesn’t.
I see my friends struggle and they see how much my game has improved.
I started 5 years ago, now I’m 70 and had my best year ever.
I shot 75 twice year. If I’m not playing I’m at the driving range.
Like Moe said, “hard work, can’t beat it...hard work can’t beat it “
Years ago I used to try to smash the ball. I had this huge backswing and tried to get all of this club head speed in order to hit the ball a mile. I was golfing with someone one time and they suggested shortening my backswing. That was what it took for me to become conscious about my overall swing dynamic. My drives improved immediately and then my iron play followed. I was following through to the hole and I was conscious of my swing towards the hole. My accuracy was way better because I eliminated a narrow set of circumstances into becoming square to the pin. Moe’s philosophy is rock solid. I don’t care if you can hit the ball 350, if you can’t hit it accurately it isn’t worth diddly squat. I have watched the pros play pro courses and the ones that are the most successful are the ones that consistently hit the ball in a strategic location in the fairway. If you spray the ball, you are going to have a long day. As I got older I learned to play a more strategic game that put the ball in the best position for my next shot. Young players try to charge the flag and get themselves into trouble trying to hit par fives in two. Like I say, that distance doesn’t mean anything if you can’t control it.
It's all about hitting the ball straight.... and this is the easiest way to go about it... but it takes a lot of practice... once you get it.... you won't go back. Todd is the best.
Im 60 and used the single plane swing all summer i was 93-103 prior, over the top 30-40 yd L to R. Played about 88 times this summer and 93 was a bad score. Never broke 80 but was close a ton. I cant say enough positives about this swing, especially after having both hips replaced, no stress or strain on the back or hips. Keep up the great work!
That was a great one. I am making the transition to the single plane. You make a great point in the beginning that applies to many parts of life beyond golf - that it is not about trying so much as committing to something. Once you decide, 'I am going to do this,' you will. However successful you are, you will be more successful than if it is an experiment. Appreciate your channel - your approach to everything is simple and authentic.
Super Todd, belle analogie entre un coup de marteau et un swing de golf vers une cible. Belle journée depuis la France. Abraço
This is a game changer prop. Put this is the teaching tools..it keeps it simple for sure
Thanks for the Great content Todd .. I am working on this this Great concept of swinging a Golf club on a single plane.. I had lost my way with my swing after not playing for a while
I always had problems with swing inconsistencies.. I had played to a decent standard after breaking a course record which still stands after 14 years .when i came back to golf my game was so bad I nearly gave up until I came across Todd's single plane swing and now things are changing dramatically .So thanks for showing how a swing can be so much easier to complete..
When the light switch turns on for you to try this method, you will *never* go back to your previous method of hitting a golf ball. Moe's swing style/method/whatever is what all golfers should be learning. I tell all my golf mates all throughout our round that they are holding the club wrong, swinging on the wrong plane, etc...come on now :-) I have to make them question their every move don't I. I mean we have a quarter riding on every hole and it adds up! :-)
As a Canadian , I had heard of Moe Norman . I just wish I'd have gone to the single. plane swing years ago. I was a hockey player and it is as natural as hitting a slap shot. Thank you Todd Graves for making golf so much easier. Cheers. Paul Szep
The single plane move is the greatest move in golf by far its so much fun hitting the ball pure and solid
The hammer analogy is awesome and VERY clear as to what the swing is designed to achieve. Working to get to a clinic next year!
Great explanation 👏🏻
Amazing stuff. Finally getting 0 side spin on the ball after 7 years of tinkering with my swing.
Gc2 says 0.6 left 0 side spin. 🙏
Makes sense to me!
MasterClass !
Hi Todd. I 100% agree with the Hammer theory. As a Joiner I have used a hammer for 36 years, one thing I will say is, because of the way a hammer is held when used properly this theory promotes a very strong grip (which i have) so there has to be literally no rotation at impact or this would promote a hook. Hence the term for a strong grip being a hookers grip, but that will only occur if you rotate the hands on impact.
I'm 57 and used many hammers/axes, etc, so it makes sense to me also.
I've also used a few (grass) sling blades with the big double sided blade, and they're motion is most definitely on a single plane!
*We've all seen the old movies (Cool Hand Luke) where the prisoners are cutting grass with them*
Didn't you mean to "not" rotate the hands at impact? I would think rotating would be a terrible idea.
I'm guessing a typo?
Great video Todd. I've been a believer of this swing method from the first time I saw it. Sure I have good and bad shots, but have never considered going back to a traditional swing plane.
Good stuff
Perfect Presentation!!
Thanks.
Excellent explanation!
Thanks.
Good one Bro. Thanks.
My pleasure
Todd, nice job. I can’t get power like you do in the video because I don’t engage my hands. They are passive. And there isn’t a weight shift from what I can see. Power then is a result of what ? 😊
Been watching your content for 2 days now and I have started using this swing. I have found it works well for me. I am in the process of trying to adopt this little by little as I learn more. I have not come across why Moe puts the club so far behind the ball. Can you help me understand this part of the swing set up/ technique?
Great stuff Todd,am starting to get some "feels",grip so critical
nice.
This makes so much sense…
I tried it and it didnt work....
But I committed to it and IT WORKS!
Isn’t hammering with the back of the left hand aligned with the hammer face a weak position? If you hammer a nail using only your lead hand the natural and stronger position is more palm down and hinging on the snuff box. Yes or no?
Great work Todd, I’m staring my journey on the single plane, I have your book, alignment tool, impact bag, the pipe rod, I’m practicing the positions static no ball hitting, how much time should a spend on that before hitting balls?? Or do I do both? I’m planning signing up with your coach 90 day program, but until then what do you recommend for indoor practice/training
Thanks Todd keep up the good work
Good question. There is a lot to unpack here. What you are asking is the difference between static and dynamic practice. Here is a detailed explanation. Static practice is the ability to find your range of motion or lack there of. In other words static position is two-fold - 1) Can you achieve the position: are you flexible enough and strong enough and 2) Can you Repeat the Position (do you have it programmed). The Second Phase is the Dynamic phase or being able to put the positions into sequence and blend the positions. This should be done slowly at first. Then the third phase is to add speed. (You must be able to walk before you can run). The training tools you purchased are designed for specific parts of these phases, for example, the SPPT is designed for Static positions and then dynamic. The ABT is designed mostly for Dynamic practice. The Impact Bag can be used both Statically (Impact) and Dynamic - adding speed. What I highly recommend is that you allow the coaches to help you as you move through these phases by sending video to them through out your learning process. Hope this helps.
@@ToddGravesGolf thanks for the feed back, and the quick response , it’s nice to see you are engaged with your followers
Another analogy comes from raking leaves. Look at your body position and hip, shoulder, arm and hand movements as you propel those leaves into the pile. Just more biomechanics to consider. Thanks, Todd, for the concise and precise explanations.
Nice
Thank you
You're welcome
Question: if you start out in ulnar deviation, don’t we go into radial deviation in the backswing? We don’t stay in ulnar. Haven’t we now created angle that we have to deal with? Then you go from ulnar to radial back to ulnar.
If it’s a space issue, can’t that be solved by standing further away?
Good question. Starting in ulnar and returning to ulnar is the single plane “secret”in a nutshell.
It just looks like that setup, that swing, that club set up so far behind the ball, he’d pull every shot. But he didn’t I know, what’s the key to not pulling it? Thank you Todd. I do love the whole idea though.
The key to not pulling it is having a perfect swing path. This swing produces perfect path and face.
Todd when you pointed the grip end at the ball a light went on for me….
Nice.
Thanks Todd, waiting for tomorrow to arrive from work so i can practice a bit more the hammer grip. Btw i would like to comment i been practicing a couple weeks now, and i feel like my left hand pinky like... it gets stuck in the night. feel like a tendon or a nerve is getting pressed or something on left hand (maybe by hitting that place, remember Moe marks in the left side hand, where he called here in the meat), anyone else getting this? Btw im playing normal stock grips. Thanks
The easiest and more importantly, most consistent.
hammer time :)
It sounds simple but still difficult to master!!!
Is anything easy to “master”?
Great athletes mastered their game practicing hours and hours
@@NocyMusic Yes. I read somewhere...10,000 hours.
I have committed myself to the One Plane swing for about 1 month and it is working really well but I have developed a pain in my left elbow (right handed). Am I doing something wrong with my arm? I never had this until I started this new swing? Any suggestions please?
Probably tendonitis from the lead arm position / different than your conventional swing. Make sure you warmup your joints, elbows, wrists etc before you hit balls and play.
Condition your body strengthen your muscles no other alternative other wise you will live taking advil everyday
@@NocyMusic Good point.
Todd: In a video from 2001, Moe says he improved his swing after reading Manuel de la Torre's book, “Understanding the Golf Swing.” What change did Moe make and was it during the time you were working with him?
Yes, this was during my time with Moe. He never changed anything.
Jeff, sorry to barge in here but I am familiar with Manuel's technique as I was tutored by one of his disciples...anyways, Manuel teaches his own hybrid version of Ernest Jones, 'swing the club head.' This is based on a pendulum concept. I truly believe that Moe and Todd have harnessed the true pendulum method utilizing one plane instead of two planes. I'm not saying you can't be successful using the two plane pendulum concept but the one plane is so much more efficient. If you consider Ernest Jones shot a 64 with one leg, then he had literally no body rotation or leg lift. This is embodied in the one plane swing. If you look at Moe and Todd their legs stay pretty much planted (i.e. not much rotation).
100% commitment is required. Hence, the investment in an at home simulator to practice year round.
💪
God please take care of the Greatest ball striker that ever lived
The traditional golf "pro" teaching does not recognize the one plane-ness of the arm and club at impact. The impact position is natural, it is embedded in all of us - proof in point, go to any range and there is always a young junior whos just starting - watch the junior's setup and swing, it's ALWAYS one plane. Junior does not start on a 2 plane swing, that is INTRODUCED. I took me a long time to realize this and the Single Plane Swing solved one of my biggest, persoanl issue with the golf swing - SPACING (the lack of it)...but that's another topic for Todd. It's funny, when I was a good, low cap player & hard core 2 plane swing, I use to laugh at Natural Swing commercial. Now, I've shot some of my best golf under the Natural Golf Swing aka the Norman/Graves Single Plane swing, who's eating humble pie now...
Yes, it is different. I do stand out from my foursome. But the Norman/Graves package (full and short game) is taking all the money from foursome and they hate it. Good thing, they are too stubborn to learn and persist with their 2 plane swing 😁
Love all the professional videos, contents & topics Todd, Merry Christmas to you & all your folks at Graves Academy 🎅🎄🎀
Imo mo was very shoulder rotational. Outside takeaway then inside at the top then inside during descent to outside at impact then finish inside.
Outside and inside what?