Dunlop TrailMax Raid Wet Weather Ride 45 Degrees | Perfect Traction
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- These Dunlop TrailMax Raid tires continue to impress. 4K miles on them now and they still have quite a bit of tread depth left. Today it is 45 degrees and Wet! The tires feel so good on the street and even with soggy ground they are hooking up extremely well.
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Thanks for the video! Just found your channel. I looking a a set of these tires for my 23 Goldwing DCT, will the size you have fit ? they look good in the rain for sure, are they equally as good on black ice at 70mph?
LOL… for real! Thanks for your support Frank!
@@manybikes your welcome and could you please answer my question?
These tires do not come in Goldwing sizes, but the Bridgestone G704 and G709 tires are my favorite for the Goldwing. 0:40 sec mark: ruclips.net/video/qRWcPmCg6Ts/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Hello Kyle, motoz tractionator gps OR Dunlop Trailmax on a KTM enduro 690 for 70/30 road/off road performance, please? Thanks for your great contributions and video content! ❤ drive safe
For a 690 I would run the Tractionator Adventure or RallZ in the rear and the AX41 up front. Maximum off road traction with amazing street cred.
How do you feel these tires compare on & off-road to the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR that's OEM for many adventure bikes these days?
Thanks for your inquiry. Similar on pavement but better than the STR in the dirt.
NIce! I'm thinking these will be the next shoes I put on my bike. I have the Missions on it now, and I've never been pleased with their wet-weather performance at all.
These were impressive.
BTW....it's 20 and getting ready to snow in Cincy....so you riding...not fair...🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was 12 this morning in VT and roads are coated in salt, so feel you!
Man... This is "as bad as it gets" here... A blessing for sure.
I have a KLR 650 bought this tyres but havent installed yet. Should i install it with tubes or go tubeless? Thank you.
@@DrEmmettBr0wn if you have spokes you will need to use tubes.
@@manybikes ok, thank you sir
Thanks for making this video. I'm genuinely curious how the wet traction would have been on a bike with double or triple the hp/torque of the 390.
The 1190 is up next... stay tuned!
Oh. Looking forward to it. Exceptional videos.
@manybikes Perfect! I'm hoping to see cold, wet pavement as part of testing. I understand that's not what anyone prefers to ride. Where I live, it's that or not riding for several months a year. I don't stop riding unless snow is sticking to the pavement.
Decided it’s between these and ax41 or e07+ for my tiger 900. How is mileage, wet performance and noise on these? Seems like the ax41 and e07+ are cheaper. Thank you Kyle!
The E07+ is a less expensive tire but is not as good in the wet as the other two are... The AX41 is king and is the best tire most places.
@@manybikes interesting, the ax41 is better than the raid in most? So basically whichever is cheaper haha
Yes, that is one way to look at it. The AX41 does not skip out in the soft dirt like the Raid does.... but the Raid always catches itself. The Raid is smoother on the highway, the AX41 better in the dirt. Trade offs everywhere!
went on icy snow recently with k60 ranger front nad motoz adventure rear.
ranger was almost acceptable, but motoz was almost completely useless despite lowered pressure, provided zero grip ;
temp was -8*C, but almos all roads were frozen ice under snow so pretty much the worst case scenario. I think in regular, wet snow id be fine, especially front ranger.
Good thing about knobbies though, even when got stuck few time, rear despite zero grip eventually will "dig" into ice /frozen snow, get to normal surface and start gripping, so never got "really" stuck ;
Sounds like an ADVENTURE!
I trust your judgment and know that K60 Ranger front wasn’t good but I have the Raids on the 990 and had zero issues in the sand/rocks and hills. Btw, you have a 950 SE? 😍
The TrailMax Raid tires are RAD! I like them a lot! Yes, I rode the 950 Super Enduro 2-UP to your High Sierra Event in 2014, when your BMW broke... that was when XL ADV as pretty BMW specific ;) Good Times!
The 390 adventure will always be a special bike to me because that was my first motorcycle and that's what got me into ADV riding
It’s like my 30th motorcycle… and it’s still special to me. It’s simple, lightweight and expensive to ride and maintain.
Hello Kyle. Thank you for all your content. It really helps with knowing products. Something that I think would help me out is to compare tires to other tires. I am sure a lot of tires are good, but when you compare them together, we can know which tire is best of the bunch. An example would be comparing the AX41 to the Raid to the Anakee Wild, etc. Cheers!
Yes Sir! In the works…
@@manybikes you're awesome! Thank you!
My pleasure!
Love the new outro, cool! Got the raid on back of the Tuareg 660, really like it! Motoz on the front really works well. Thanks for all your content! ❤
Thanks for watching!
I wanna see more Africa Twin content. Also do. you have a video. where you compare the tractionator RallZ and the tractionater Adventure tire?
Yes Sir! I need to get another AT to get you the content. Yes, I have many RallZ vs. Adv videos but they are mixed ... I would suggest watching the Motoz Monday Adv and then Rallz videos back to back. What specific questions do you have? RallZ Video: ruclips.net/video/nkkql9O57To/видео.html and the ADV Video: ruclips.net/video/CNWWzvYL6Is/видео.html
Are you now the king of rubber?...
What's the verdict compare to Moto?
They are different than the Motoz for sure. I like them better on the road. I like that they weigh less… but they do not handle deep sand, mud nor Baja ruggedness as well as MotoZ. Motoz is the kind of gnarly terrain riding.
I'm in the market for new tires for my Tiger 800xc - thanks for the video I'll look into these.
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
How would the raid on rear with a Motoz dual venture on front for a BMW 1200 GS work. My other option Motoz adventure on the rear Motoz Dual venture front . Live in Northern Mi with sandy two tracks.
The Dual Venture front and the Raid Rear would be a great combo but for sand the Motoz Adventure will be a better choice. If you go Motoz, I'd love to supply you. www.Manybikes.biz
Brave riding in SoCal traffic- and in the rain to boot! Great information and ride video. Love the San Clemente pier shots. Great place to live Kyle! For me, don't need separate content alerts, will gladly catch all your great content. Are you buying a TransAlp? Thanks Kyle!
Thanks! 👍 for your support! I would love a TransAlp...
I've experienced pretty much what Kyle is saying here. Seems to be a consistent tire at the least. Something to be said for predictable performance. It would be nice if Dunlop takes this feedback about that front tire cutting loose in the soft stuff and just making adjustment to cure that and it would be great all around tire.
Totally agree! Thanks for watching and thanks for your feedback.
what pressure are you running in them? And the weight of the bike and your weight combined?
30 psi is what I am running. I am 200 lbs... so 580 ish.
Cheers. What rims do u have on that 390 please? Yes more 390 adv content please. Would like your opinion on the motoz gps, adv, rallz Mitas E o7’s & Karoo 4’s on the 390 please. If u have experience on them please? Especially on wet roads.
KKE Racing makes the wheels and I love them! www.kkeracing.com/collections/tubeless-wheels-for-ktm790 Regarding the list of tires... I have ridden them ALL. The Karoo 4 is the best wet weather tire I have ever run. AMAZING! Watch this: ruclips.net/video/_-mdz_Z75Lc/видео.html Next is the AX41 followed by th eRallZ then the Anakee Wild, then the E07 non Dakar.
@@manybikes cheers. The motoz tractionator gps tyres. Would they be up there with the Karoo 4 & ax41’s?
Had a look at the rims. Pretty nice and well priced. Thanks for taking the time to do your vids appreciate it.
Great info Kyle! The Rally Raid tires seem to be a good choice.
They are comfy on the road and work good in the dirt.
Dear Tire Guru, the yoga of the Tire, The Rubber renegade ! Please answer me this with your infinite wisdom. Is it better than the Bridgestone Battlax Adventurecross AX41 ? You know how I roll I’m in the same hood as you, Southern California doing the fire roads, Rawher flats, big sharp rocks, sandy and sharp ! 👊🏽🤘🏽🥃
Ha! Ha! Ha! How can I be of service young master Luke... The AX41 is better in sand and loose dirt. The Raid is softer and smoother rolling on the highway. Looks like it will get more mileage than the AX41. It is very comparable in most areas. Better, no. Very Close, yes.
@@manybikes appreciate your insight brotha ! 🍻❤️
Yes Sir!
Wonderful, fot us that live in countries that its mostly wet.
@@johnwoods5995 yes. It's nice to find a tire that is great in the wet. Another great wet weather tire is the Metzeler Karoo 4. My video on that is crazy weather!
Found the tyres offered zero feedback in the wet on a wet Dave Thorpe Adventure day last October. I eventually found the limit when the rear end stepped out on a fast A road. After 130miles and a blast across Exmoor, the tyres still offered no feedback. The said I missed an apex at speed (watching my buddy in the mirror) and had to stand it up and brake hard mid corner. Tyres didn't slip. Note I found the seating on the CRF1100 I was riding too low for me which may have altered feedback.
Very interesting. I find them to offer great feedback on the road. It is a fantastic street tire in my findings. Odd you had those feelings, especially on an AT!
@@manybikes Okay by way of an update. Took the plunge and swapped my Rally STR out for Raids on my CRF1000 . Wow, chalk and cheese compared to the set on the newer CRF1100. Great feedback and warm up quick. Okay off road (much much better than the Rally STR on slippy trails) The knobblies can squirm on the rear on the road but nothing that worries. Can only conclude that the Dave Thorpe CRF1100 was set up too soft on the rear thus offering poor feedback. (Mine is maxed out)
Great to hear Kyle but, what pressures were you running on the raid tires. ✌✊
30ish... psi.
All I'm looking for is the longest lasting 80%on-road/20%off-road tire. So far the only recommendation I've had is the Michelin ADV tires that came as OE on my Pan Am. Do you have any suggestions or insight?
motoz tractionator gps
Man... The 80/20 tires just don't have the grip off-road when you need it... unless it's hard pack. I would do a true 50/50 tire or maybe the Dunlop TrailMax Mission. That lasts a long time!
@@manybikes I don't do much offroad, just the 1.5 miles of treacherous gravel road I live on really. I looked up the DTMs though and it looks like they may last just as long as the OE Michelins, thank you for the recommend as I'll give them a shot when I need to replace tires again!
@@Chase_N or the TrailMax Mission front and a TKC70 Rocks rear. Fantastic combo
Hello Kyle, useful information as always. Would you put Raid on par with Bridgestone AX41 - or one beat the other in some aspects? For me it always wins grip over mileage.
Great question, sir, great questions… On the street the Dunlop RAID does roll smoother than the AX41. The front tire grip of the AX41 and Luce dirt is significantly better than the raid. in wet weather I did find the Dunlop raid tire to be stickier and to break loose less. Well, both are fantastic tires… and the Raid gets significantly more mileage, I think the AX41 is still my favorite.
Thank you @manybikes Exactly the information I was looking for. I am in awe of your knowledge and experience with tires.
It's a labor of love... Got to ride the junk so you can appreciate the performance. I have a story to tell about that that is not appropriate for here. Maybe around a campfire sometime.
Hi Kyle..one question, which front tire do you think performs better onroad? Raid or Mission..in 21 inch. What do you think of the idea to combine Raid in the rear, for grip, with the Mission in the front, for more precision onroad. I am afraid that the Raid in the front doesn‘t give me enough precision and secure feeling onroad, when riding a little faster.
Well... I really think the RAID excels. The raid is much softer and grips the road better than the Mission. The Mission is a long distance touring tire that "can go off road"... where as the Raid is a more aggressive off road tire that still has super solid road performance. If total mileage was not a concern... I would choose the Raid over the Mission every time. I think Dunlop hit the mark on this "more aggressive" ADV tire.
@@manybikes thank you! For the rear, i will go for sure with the Raid due to his softer rubber..but what do you think to put the Mission in the front for better onroad performance..as i will go offroad mainly in dry conditions, and i prefer to sacrifice offroad performance for onroad precision. Is the Mission the better onroad front tire compared to the Raid?
@@heinenracing2667 I would do the RAID front and rear.
@@manybikes ordered 😀👍
I’ll keep using the Bridgestones
They are hard to beat!!! Love me some AX41!!!
Another great video Kyle. I’m about to buy a front tire for my T7 (running a Motoz Tractornator GPS in the rear now) and wanted to buy it from your place of employment.
Sounds great! Please purchase it from Rocky Mountain after clicking this link. I get a little kickback: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/tires-and-wheels/adventure?
Im curious how well the trailmax raid does on the bigger middle weight bikes as far as mileage
A friend of mine, a rather crazy off-road maniac has his set of these tires on his Husqvarna Norden 901 for the past 16.000km (10k miles) and he swears by them. Still had some thread left and trust me, he ain’t easy on them.
@@Honda_Africa_Twin good to know thanks..
I have a vstrom 800 de and i am getting the same mileage or a bit worse than what kyle is seeing. I dont think it will have much left after 4500 miles if at all. My riding is 80/20 pavement and I am not too aggressive with them.
@@trailrider1980 I also have the vstrom 800de..still has stock tires..I live in Bonners ferry idaho and only got 150 miles on it before the weather went to crap lol I'm not an aggressive rider either but I want to ride the idaho bdr next summer..I'm on the fence about the trailmax raid or motoz adventure..for the price of tires I want something that will last more than one season..some days I could ride 10% on pavement and some days all pavement
@@gabrielkopp2036 I personally would try something else. Maybe I got a bad tire but my experience with the dunlop raid is just Ok. I have found the rear rally raid noisy and it makes a whistling noise at 40mph. It started after I put over 1,500 miles on the tire. You know the vstrom 800 is a very quiet bike so the noise became obvious pretty fast. I have heard that the trailmax missions last longer and most people put 7-8k miles on them. When i replace my rear raid it would probably be with the trailmax mission as I ride at least 10k miles a season and any tire that would only last 4k would get expensive fast.
The front looks good for 4K, the rear would not be usable here in NY with what remains.
I came away from this video expecting that we will not be seeing the 390 Adventure for too much longer!
Looking forward to new tire videos of course! - Frank
I don't know about the second comment... It is a fantastic little bike. The most economical to commute on for sure. I am really impressed with the mileage on these tires thus far. Better than the AX41 for longevity, but not quite as good in the loose dirt.
Thanks!
Thank you Sir!!!
@@manybikes No, thank you for providing relevant and honest reviews. You have stood the test of time and are a creditable source for moto related info. Thank you for investing so much of your time to provide our community with great content. Keep it coming!
Great video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Kyle! Even better now that I’ve seen how they perform in the wet! Thank you!
No problem! Thanks for watching!