💥 LA BOMBA 12ga Exploding Shotgun Slug - We TEST them!
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Today we test out some very new slugs called "La Bombas" from Gun Runners Arsenal. (Google that for more info) Bigger and heavier than a 10ga. slug, these again show the versatility of the 12ga. do-it-all platform.
OG's Danger Show Channel:
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Gun Runner Arsenal YT channel:
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And I much prefer seeing the slow motion right after the shot instead of all of them at the end.
Mee two.
It’s better that way imo, too many other tubers doing the method you mentioned, be different from everyone else.
Agreed. Noticed the change on a previous video. It helps to follow the story of stability with smoothbore vs. rifling.
@E Van too many other tubers doing just that, be different from everyone.
Amen!
Jeff: "It smells like something... like burnt something..."
OG: "yeah, teen spirit"
Cracked me up hahahahaha
lol
I couldn't handle Teen Spirit deodorant. Gal was once trying to get frisky after school. I had to pass. It didn't really smell very good.
Kinda like really cheap perfume.
I was thinking the same thing right before OG said it.😱
Now I'm worried about my mental health.🤪
@@joshuagibson2520 metalica reference my guy :D
Once again, a huge thank you for spending the time creating these "stupid things" for adult enjoyment. The endless creativity in shell design, between viewer submitted and self created, is absolutely amazing. 💯% Fun to watch.
"Adult entertainment "? In my opinion this is appropriate for all ages; some of the adult jokes they make would go way over the heads of any children watching.
thanks!
@@taofledermaus I would've watched this 12 hours ago when you uploaded it, but I've been on flood watch from the man induced Squall screaming through Illinois still.
@@taofledermaus instead of "La Bomba" it should be called "Mister Twister" or "The Tongue Twister" to go with the Adult Theme of the episode 😂😂.
@@taofledermaus How about a Hollow Cored Minnie Ball Type Slug with a Plus Shaped Tungsten Penetrator Tip like that of a .38 Super? Would that be an interesting slug type to try?
Officer Greg is the best stand up on the web. Take a bow OG. Where else can you get good content and comedy with no commercials. Keep it coming Jeff.
still can’t express just how awesome it is that jeff makes multiple references to the fallout series in his videos.
And now the tv series the ghoul uses this round basically
Need some more testing of these with some soft targets, really keen to see what these would do to ballistic gel and wet magazines. Would also be cool to see how these work on Danny's lead plate.
I've been unable to find a single video of anyone testing primer-activated exploding slugs on gel or any other soft target. It's frustrating because I really want to know if the primer will go off. Ideally I'd want to see it on gel, meat, and leather.
@@Bacteriophagebs You don't see those videos because the primer doesn't go off, which doesn't make for very exciting videos :P
@@LordDragox412 Maybe, maybe not. That's why I'd expect at least one channel to test it. We see all kinds of unexciting failures in Taofladermaus videos, and that's part of the fun. Heck, even Demo Ranch shows the boring results.
@@Bacteriophagebs seconded
@@Bacteriophagebs check out 1ShotTV he has done some of that!
I literally LOL'd when OG turned around with the dented helmet on. This was another fun filled educational episode. Thanks gents!
lol thanks
Right?? 🤣🤣🤣
Worth it just for OG in the helmet
@@taofledermaus rvrrrrrrrrrv
@@rickwinters5740 I'm not fluent in Klingon
Interesting heavyweight slugs. It appears that at least two of them realized they were on camera in the land of fruits and nuts so they impacted high and left in a classic demonstration if California ballistics. Way to go, Jeff and OG!
Guided anti cali voter projectiles🤭
Dude fist bump for brilliant comment
LOL...
Pretty damn good
California Ballistics. "high and left" yeah sounds like scientific accuracy to me!
Wierd Trivia: That East German helmet was designed in the late stages of WW2 as a way to cut costs from the Stahlhelm pattern by using a simpler pattern that wasted less steel.
It's also probably the best steel helmet made. No steel helmets were designed to stop direct hits from bullets, must fragmentation or ricochets. The previous stalhelm or the US M1 at best stop low velocity rounds like .45 ACP.
The Warsaw Pact helmets have best resistance due to most of their designs incorporating a slope, allowing some of them to stop even higher velocity rounds like 9mm or .357 magnum. The East German however has the most extreme angle, that with the right tempered steel, some helmets have resisted direct hits from AK47 rounds, at the very least, they all stopped 7.62 Tokarev rounds.
If anyone doesn't find the Tokarev resistance impressive, just know that some modern kevlar helmets today still can't stop that round. It's got ridiculous penetration capability.
And they make you look and apparently act like a human dick head.
Blank pouder works the most explosively, and with a little black pouder mixed in u get some smoke also. I find it works in my 40mm cannon. On an empty 5 gal. Can it had a 40mm (1 5/8") hole in front, there was no back side
Did you make the cannon? I've been wanting to make one
My cannons are made from surplus navy 40 mm 1 5/8) & 76.2 (3")
You could use Tannerite and then it would actually detonate. Or some other stable high explosive.
@@everythingballistic8812 I'm not sure if tannerite would ignite with a 50 cal. primer, blank pdr. is the fastest burn rate by far of any easy to get pdr. It blew 40 mm lead rds. to pieses usually they perform just like big ass bullets, also I have 1000's of blanks
@@thomasschwab1727 I made them with the use of friends machines. I also made 5 black powder mortars 3 fire bowling balls, there a lot easier to make
I would be lost if OG didn't explain the science. Thanks guys!
Plus, the bonus science! I sure didn't know that silver cage thing was how the computer caught the Wi-Fis. TIL! Thanks OG!
Who knew that he was a compooter sciencer?
Yeah OG gave me a crash course on computer technology I never knew I needed to learn! 🤣
It would have been interesting if this slug was shot at a gummy bear to see if the powder ignites on the inside. Also I think going wad-free is the way to go with that slug.
Less likely to trigger the primer... soft things aren't great for setting them off. Gotta strike something hard (like a bone)
"humane self-quarterising round"
@@bmw328igearhead drop a small nail in the round before loading the powder in so when it hits anything the nail will fire the primer - they're basically tiny pineapple grenades at that point but triggered like an armor piercing round.
@@russellzauner I wouldn't suggest that type of setup, it's possible (likely) that the force of acceleration would trigger the round in the barrel.
Let's face facts, you're not likely to use these for home defence. I say, you're an animal if you are... These rounds are the kinda thing you take out to the quarry and have some fun with. No real practical use. Entertainment only. :)
The slug with attached wad may be too long for the shotgun rate of twist. Minus the wad, its shorter and hopefully more stable.
I love when you get inventive and put the primers in the front of the Slugs man that's always a good show always love the videos hope you guys and your families are well
thank you kindly!! !
So funny, I just a few days ago thought about how you can achieve a good exploding bullet. One was a hollow slug with a primer in the front. I wondered if the impact on bone would ignite the primer. So cool you made a video about this slugs. 🤩👍🏼
Love your videos guys ✌🏼
The impact around 5 minutes is hands down the baddest ass thing I've seen on this channel
I wonder how a small steel rod would do in the center, possibly put some glue in the cavity to fill voids and secure it, would it act like a penetrator?
First thought was steel shot inside, extra fun times for the target.
And I'll agree, I prefer seeing the slow motion shots with the regular motion shots so it's easier to analyze what happened on target. I wouldn't mind if you compiled them at the end to pad out run times to make yt happy, as long as they're also where they've traditionally been in the video.
4:00 Beldar Conehead????😝
Make that glass shards in the cavity.
I really want to make a slug that has a steel core like what youre talking about. Seems like it would have wicked performance
@@adabsurdum5905 you can or you can use steel/brass slugs with a sabot. You want higher speeds with less mass though. Since speed is key.
@@adabsurdum5905 they have done carbon fiber slugs with steel cores on this channel, the issue was that the material didn't hold up to the sudden acceleration, I think that the lead would hold up a lot better.
You guys always manage to do the coolest stuff with shotguns! Thank you for the knowledge and entertainment
Shotguns? You mean mass accelerators?
thank you Rex
I'm waiting for them to accelerate a shotgun with a shotgun. I suspect full rifling will be required.
@@NoTimeForThatNow that’s exactly what I was about to say
I remember watching you guys since middle school..now? I’m 19!! I was 11-12 when I first watched you guys and coming from California as well I thought it was cool how you guys took the shotguns to it’s advantage seeing how it’s legal in California to own lots of types of shotguns. I was surprised some of these rounds were even legal here. But with peace and love , me and my friends have loved you guys since 7-8 years ago. And loved the fallout reference ! Another favorite of our group of friends.
thank you!!
With peace and love I shoot my load!
Right? Easily a 7-8 year viewer here.
you can get an insert or literally any type of round that will come out of the bore if you want to shoot other calibers thru them too
@@taofledermaus hey bro, have any clue what that superhuge hard disk was, not sure ever seen one of these !!!
What we really need is someone both with the access to, and is insane enough, to try shoving something more powerful in the slug. I wonder if they make a primer strong enough to activate c4 but small enough to fit on the end of that.
Primers aren't particularly strong but they are sensitive. Which is why they are used to detonate more powerful but less sensitive explosives. What would make this basically a miniature grenade is a small but substantial main charge. I wonder what the legal requirements are for such a round?
I was always taught that c4 required an electric ignition source. Not sure how a promer would accomplish that
@@reaper_exd7498 I'm sure the engineers will figure it out.
A thin sliver of quartz... If it could survive the firing without shattering or putting off a charge might be able to set it off
At that point you are firmly in ordinance lab territory of legality, where you need proper legal stuff.
@@reaper_exd7498 C4 will detonate due to a significant percussion and heat source
If you grind the flake into fine powder it burns faster and more thoroughly for a bigger more energetic pow.
Funny things happen when your fingers do the walking online. Stumbled upon a blog about deep frying coffee beans. After about 15 minutes of digging and investigation, I am sitting here at midnight, drinking my first cup watching OG and I have to say, this is a game changer. Give it a try guys. I threw mine in an air fryer, 8 minutes on roast at 350. Wow guys. This is bigger than the French press.... sure am glad I’m watching OG on TAOFLEDERMAUS. This video and moment will grind into my mind forever. Wow
38 years old and my life started just now. Deep fried coffee beans... 8 flux capacitors gigabytes being hit with serious authority, 1100-1150ft/s. Fancy
Really showing that clear shells are a great thing for any self loader. I'd try magnesium powder mixed into some smokeless for that cavity. I bet that would look pretty cool.
Add a bit of ground up match head for extra gas generation to disperse the burning magnesium some more. The optimal combination could probably give off a big impressive white flash on impact.
Given that the vessel is a thinwalled lead shell, I imagine it's not going to be easy to get decent combustion out of smokeless. Smokeless needs quite a bit of pressure for it to burn properly. You might get it to pop a few times, but most of the energy you put into the charge will just be wasted. The burn rate of black powder isn't pressure-dependent. It'll go bang even if the container is made out of paper.
Flash powder with chopped steel wool ;)
how about thermite?
@@badideagenerator2315 Only if the gun is in a sled.
Wow! Epic video guys!
Wonderful shooting and slow motion impacts. Glad Gregg still has his original shoulder. Very impressive slug "calibration" Jeff!
Thank you Saar
I think you misspelled, Saar, it's "californication": high and left ;-)
@@koljya :) Lol...
My brother and I, as kids, would meticulously separate the paper on a roll of caps and very very carefully scrape the contact powder out onto a sheet of folded paper. Then we would back fill a .177 air gun pellet and crimped it over to seal them. Made a fun time going out and shooting them at night. They had a similar "crack" to them as a 22 short. It was always disappointing when you'd almost have a whole roll done and get careless and scape on too hard and set off the whole pile lol. A great way to learn attention and patience ha ha.
ive done that same thing but with cart oil lmao, two hours and one good high gone
Lmao, done that a few times then i learned how to make the Armstrong Mixture. All you need is a few books of matches and some 93% alcohol. Don't have to use the alcohol but it makes it safer and makes filling the pellet easier and safer. Just let it dry all the way before using. Sounds like a large firecracker.
I used to tell my students that computers run on smoke...When the smoke comes out they stop working...LOL...
Greetings TaoFlederFolks, this is one of the best channels on RUclips for shotgun lovers.
thanks Wilson
The primer tip is one of best load tricks ever. I will try my 209 primer load in Elmer's glue next week. Should be epic. Thanks Jeff. Your awesome.
I didn't expect to see the helmet vibrating like that especially after it took that dent.
LOL! That takes me back to the days of the Velet “exploding hollowpoints” (yes, I brewed a few of my own inside .44 slugs).😄 Great fun!
"Won't even hold the sound in" 🤣
-Yeah 😂🤣 To Much BOOM‼️
I think that, if you're going to go through the trouble of packing the slug with flash powder or something (capped off with a primer), then you might as well add something atop the slug that can fragment and cause some substantial secondary damage upon impact. Since this is a really large/heavy slug design, I'd like to see a version of the slug that is actually two pieces that stack or thread together. The bottom (base) portion should have a cavity and a hole for the primer, while the top is contoured for aerodynamics. It might need a hardened pin/screw/whatever bedded in the top portion (to ensure primer detonation) but that could likely be accomplished with just the lead.
When you get projectiles like that that have cavitation towards the front with a solid rear, it is inherently going to be more susceptible to aerodynamic inconsistencies (like the wobble we saw here.) So if you can move the charge cavity to the middle or rear of the projectile, it will have enough mass forward of the COM that it should stabilize dynamically. Having the charge towards the rear of the projectile can also cause the gasses to push outward on the thinner walls (of the base of the projectile) and expand/fragment while still in the body. When you have the secondary explosion towards the front of the projectile, it will expand/fragment at the back of the target, if not outside in of the body. Basically, moving the charge to the back of the projectile will make it detonate closer to the entry point rather than the exit. That way, the forward momentum of the projectile and secondary detonation carry through the body earlier, increasing overall damage.
Now, I've never actually tested this hypothesis myself. I don't really have the resources to conduct such an experiment myself at the moment. But I think that could make for a stellar experiment. In my mind, the internal charge being at the front of the projectile means that it will detonate closer to the exit than the entry, clearing a small hole towards the back upon exit. If you can prime the charge at the same moment, but have the actual cavity positioned at the rear of the projectile, then you'll have the secondary detonation closer to the entry point and have more time after the detonation inside the body for the drag/shock to damage the internals.
Diabolical
Does OG realise how brilliant and dark that teen spirit reference was! That was as smooth and accurate as Briannas shooting
I have always appreciated the use of Doom II tracks behind Jeff's narration.
Another great vid, TY Jeff and OG.
Great video. If y’all get more, I would love to see a comparison shot between sploding and not sploding in gel or clay.
Yeah, no one better than OG's inner 12 year old to make a video "for a mature audience".
I'm wondering if the surprise in the slugs negatively impacted the balance of the slug (similar concept to an unevenly loaded washing machine)
Poor Brandon is definitely gunna feel that in the morning
It is possible
@@taofledermaus could another factor be the scattered powder from the factory loads caused an uneven + delayed burn and resulted in the wobble
Love the GRA New Vegas shoutout you did there
Okay wait, and the Doom music.
Can you do a stream?
Fun fact: "La Bomba" means "The Bomb" in Italian.
I thought it was bombalini
La bomba is spanish
One of those slugs shot at a thin metal case filled with tannerite would be awesome, anyways enough of my rambling, awesome video as always Jeff and OG. Still missing Danny
Never put reactive targets in any metal container. This includes Tannerite. Even rocks on the range can turn into projectiles.
Especially at close range, a plastic container is even dangerous.
Awesome video, really showed that improvement with the rifled barrel. Excellent work!
thanks Chris
I can't believe fallout new vegas got a mention. Arguably the best game ever made.
I think you meant to say “objectively the best game ever made”
*definitely
Now I want to see a Taofledermaus mod for shotgun ammo in Fallout New Vegas, and then watch Zach from Mikeburnfire talk about them all in Gun Rant #5
You'd have more likes if that were true.
@@True-Patriot and yet, no one likes you.
The hole in the front of a shotgun slug has always been the same size as a #209 primer.
I never thought it was a coincidence.
Fun fact.
Old fashioned aluminum arrows are the same size, too.
64gig
Hard drive space always is increments of an octet (8s) 8,16,32,64 etc
And those things he pointed at on the “green board” are mosfats. They’re for power stabilization
Little bit of bullseye and a stud gun 22blank I found yrs ago worked better with the rim hanging over the edge. Be interesting to try gas bottles or a glass of gas. I'm long out of the game so really appreciate all your shenanigans.
Officer Gregg, a nostalgic metalhead , grunge fan to be more exact ! 😊
I love that the flow of ideas for these rounds hasn’t stopped!
Thanks for the years of awesome entertainment, guys! ❤
Our pleasure!
1:05 "And today we'll be filling that cavity with all kinds of goodies for you."
Last time I heard that, I was auditioning for an "Art Film".
I remember interviewing for a job at the hard drive factory back in the 90's; most of the questions I had to answer on a big greenboard; they just scaled the solutions down a bit for production.
You guys are so very entertaining!! THANK YOU for what you do!! Been watching y'all for years, and NEVER GET TIRED of watching, and I sure hope you don't get tired of doing it!! p.s. I sure do miss Danny, and know you do to!
Awesome! Thank you!
When I saw the helmet, for a moment there I thought you were finally allowing Brandon to take a shot at the steel plate
I feel like a magnum pistol powder would have a greater effect on target with these slugs, however, black powder should provide a more visually satisfying puff of smoke. I know you are probably the only mainstream guntuber that would do a video on the differences in high speed slow motion of the same slugs, with the same powder load and gas seal, with different powder loads in the cavity.
Having only a primer for resistance and not much of a seal, no smokeless powder will be useful.
@@Chris_Garman as someone who hasn't gotten into loading/reloading, I had not considered that fact in my original statement, thank you for the reminder.
.22 sensitive tannerite and a ramset blank instead of a 209 primer
You need to send that hard drive to that guy that makes cool slugs, see what he can make out of it.
A bit late to this party, but I've got to say OG is the epitome of the "square cop" who's really too cool for skool 😎
Thanks for yet another enjoyable video. The helmet shot was really neat. The hi speed camera footage is always fascinating. Thanks again.
thanks Bill
You guys are having way too much fun.
12:34 - how surprising this slug didn't just punch through the helmet! I know those helmets as they used to be really cheap here in Germany and many kids bought them in the 90s just to play with them. I always wondered what this helmet can withstand.
By the way - calling him Brande(o)nburg was just perfect :-D
lol thanks Thomas
Officer Greg seems to know his tech stuff.
In 1970 I was building these things black powder works good too. The shotgun primer is helped with a bb glued in the center of the primer.
What are the size requirements for a slug to run properly through a barrel of a shotgun? And how can you tell if slugs can be safely shot through a shotgun? I was looking at guns in a pawn shop one time and they showed me a gun that appeared to have a buldge 2/3s down the barrel that I assumed was a failed attempt at shooting a slug down the bore. Your videos are great to watch thanks for the effort and detail.
The size of the barrel isn’t a concern as much as the size of the choke. You want to use a cylinder bore although a modified may be safe.
Another GREAT VIDEO Jeff, thank you for all your great work and thank you OG for always being the comedian, you guys are still the best after being subscribed for 7-8 years who knows but great work!! 💪👊💥
thank you Dewey
Fun fact, those *6* boxes you were pointing to on the back of the drive are for power delivery. Ya know, on the pcb board (but I like green board too)
And yes, they're platters.
OG wearing that helmet reminds one of Fred Flintstone wearing his Water Buffalo hat... :)) Thanks, OG and Greg!
Hey Jeff and O G , with the base wad attached the projectile was to long for the twist rate of the barrel . When the base wad could separate the slug could stabilize . The longer the projectile the more spin it needs to stabilize . This is why the new rifles and cartridges with heavy for caliber ( and longer ) bullets have faster twist rates ( say from 1 in 10 to. 1 in 8 or faster ) depending on caliber . Thanks for all your hard work !……
The larger flat base 12 gauge slugs don't need a twist rate like a small bore btbt bullet does. Even if they were shooting boat tail spitzers they wouldn't need a twist rate over 1:15. .50 bmg subs can run the 1:15 just fine, a 1:8 or 9 in a supersonic .50 is absolutely ridiculous and does interesting things to targets, and a 1:8 12 gauge would start disintegrating soft slugs in flight from the centrifugal force.
@@randomidiot8142 I didn’t say the slug needed a 1 in 10 or a 1 in 8 I was using that as an example for longer projectiles . I was saying the slug with the added length of the base wad needed a faster twist rate to stabilize .
These were some awesome rounds. I’d definitely love to see more exploding slugs in the future. Try experimenting with different styles of slugs to make them stable even with an “explosive payload”.
I would have enjoyed seeing ballistic gel... But Good vid just the same!
Those look like they’d be more for home defense.
In case you get attacked by a house?
@@WineScrounger really home a phobic
@@WineScrounger if someone breaks in, they won’t be happy. Especially my house. That’s all I’ve got loaded in my gauge. So, they better get right with Jesus, before they enter my house.
@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s a good one
“Smells like something.. burnt” “yeah teen spirit” lmao
I did the same with 357 mag. They opened up like a beer can . Brings back memories.
So, a question, and you may have addressed this, and I might have missed it, but wouldn't these shells be a no-no to a certain group? Or, do they not care?
The powder weight is well-below the limits for a destructive device.
@TAOFLEDERMAUS I didn't even think about that at the time of writing that. I completely forgot that. My bad
If you could get those to stop tumbling, slip a .22 long rifle round into it, you would have the perfect gift that keeps on giving.
A bullet that shoots back at the shooter.
Dig dug,. Lol. Thanks for the memories O G,. It's crazy when he said that brought back the memories of the arcade circa 1983.😀
So in other words. This slug is a shaped grenade.
You should have sent the hard drive to a Data recovery company for a laugh!
-They’ll Be Like “What Happened To It” 😩
I appreciate your constant, attentive, and tasteful work in pushing the envelope
thanks
I was expecting you to shove some tannerite in those things 😂. Probably not safe, but when you said surprises that’s where my mind went.
Greg’s computer tutorial epitomizes “securitization through obfuscation”. 😂👍🏼
That speaker was literally playing heavy metal lol 😂
"You trying to tell me we're going wad free here?" Hahaha
“Oh wow the helmet saved Brandon!”
Watches slow-mo
“Oooh nooo”
For your explosive component use either Winchester 230 or 630 powder. The nitro content in these powders is 40%.
That helmet was priceless to see on OG. He is great
These are some weapons grade dad jokes 😂
Plot twist - there are three whole bitcoins stored on that HDD
If you took all of the "authentic" pieces of Berlin wall sold over the last thirty years you could build two Berlin walls. 😂
Jeff and OG mentioned the slug as "La Bamba" which is a wedding song. The title on the video says that it is a " La Bomba." which refers to a bomb or an explosive. Great video Guys!
I was waiting for a miss to see if the slug could knock down that radio tower that was directly behind the target in the field
For the explosive filler, next I'd try grinding tannerite into a fine powder and packing it in there. In a confined space, a primer is enough to set it off. HE slug!
2:42
Jeff - “it smells like something… burnt something”
OG - “Teen spirt”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That would send Mr. Bad Guys spine at least 300 yards down range
Me thinks.... I have been watching your channel on and off for several years and you two guys always come up with really cool toys to play in the sun with.....
GOOD luck retrieving data off that drive!😊
i would say the ceramic speaker was playing lead zeplin when it blew
I bet that gaming PC had a copy of DooM installed on it; pretty sure I heard some of the OG DooM soundtrack during the shooting.
To be more effective, it should have some sort of frangible, hardened metal cylinder inside (the lead is way to soft), and only the outer surface should be lead or copper, so that when it explodes, it will emit lots of shrapnel like a grenade. Another easier way to do it, would be to turn the hollow cylinder on a late out of brass and make it just so that it fits snug in a rifled shotgun.
I feel like I got to know Danny thru these videos. Most people know someone like Danny.
Some plastic wads and gas seals are designed for straight sided hulls, while others are designed for tapered wall hulls. It pays to read labels.
I suppose the difference in velocity could also be in part at least due to such a large slug spinning the way it did. That's like an air break.....
The helmet survived. Have your powered buggy cart you into battle after a hit like that, talking about how "We're all friends again."
The steel helmet would certainly ring your bell if it caved in that far! Ouch!
"smashed up tip" can't believe Greg didn't go for the low hanging fruit on that one. " The garage band I started in high school after my first girlfriend left me for the captain of the math team"
As a younger text savvy man that computer part made me laugh my ass off