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Holy mackerel, this is why I'm subbed to this channel! Stories like this I never get in the wild, thanks man. I loved how he was pretending not to understand how a bar named "Tight End" could be seen as sexual. Quality content my man =)
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I will never forget that drop in the SB. Dallas was my favorite team as a kid, and up until Jacksonville finally got the Jags. I was not mad at him because it happens. That was heartbreaking though.
That SB was the Steelers in a nutshell, they got largely outplayed, while, every single break went their way, the same thing happened the following season, but, the, Victory Parade, after SB 14 was barely over before the bill finally came due, they didn't even make the Playoffs for three more years, and, later tossed their future down a sewer, when they chose the corpse of Terry Bradshaw over Dan Marino, those Cowboys never returned to the SB, but, made five Playoff appearances in six years, while the Raiders won two of the next four SBs, coincidence, I think, not.
@@matthewdaley746 Yeah. I always felt the Cowboys and Steelers were both guilty of hanging on to players that should have been upgraded. I am referring to that time period. I don't know who made the final decisions , but age is a real thing. I always felt like Danny White was a good QB, but the talent around him was not the same, and maybe the game passed them by at that point.
@kenhill3230 The Steelers, oddly enough, were a victim of their own success, they, absolutely, positively, shouldn't have won SB 14, but, by sheer dumb luck, they did, unfortunately, they would take the complete wrong message from it, instead, of realizing that their veterans were finally, beginning to wear down, and, needed replacing, they, instead, decided that they'd, "earned the right," to stay together, from, 1980-1984, their core slowly began to retire, and, their terrible, Post-1974, drafting was absolutely ruinous, OTOH, the, Cowboys-Raiders, transitioned rather seamlessly, drafted well until, 1977, and, 1983, respectively, and, the bottom didn't fall out, until after the 1985 season.
@@matthewdaley746 Well in the Steelers defense with Terry Bradshaw they thought they had a few more seasons with him left in the tank. But During the summer practice sessions before the 1983 season Bradshaw slipped on mud and injured his elbow on his throwing arm causing him to miss almost all of the season and forcing him to retire. However they should have drafted Dan Marino though in 1983. About them getting lucky to win SB XIV to quote the voice of NFL Films John Facenda "Great teams are not always great. They are great when they have to be."
@@kenhill3230 You got that right look on how long they kept Tom Landry and Tex Stram until they got new ownership and Jerry Jones changed everything in 1989. Hell Ed Too Tall Jones was still there as a player during Jimmy Johnson's 1st season as Cowboys' Head Coach. Yeah I know Jones took a break from playing football to go after a boxing career. During the lateral part of the 1980s Landry started to fall off and had losing season after losing season.
Keep this in mind back then NFL players were only playing for pocket change. Their main income would come from other jobs. This end owned a bar back then in addition to playing in the NFL. The bar was his main income
@@matthewdaley746 Used to be the same in the NBA as well. The plumbers insult you hear nowadays towards older players comes from the fact that in the old days they weren't full time basketball players and needed other jobs to pay the bills.
@tkdmanbb185 Part of that, was the fact that the draft used to be, considerably, longer, there were players drafted who had no business being drafted, even the players knew it, they hoped they could fool a team into signing them before they got exposed, as a result, the draft was later lowered to two rounds.
yah but at the same time. Only about today 40 years later, has inflation got to the point where the average guy makes what a lower end PRO sport player made back then. And by average guy today I mean like 80k or so.
I guess the Vikings were awesome about making adjustments that season! They clearly learned their lesson from their previous encounter with the Cardinals.
This is very similar to what happened in Finland's top soccer league in 2005 though it was an entire team, AC Allanssi that was accused of losing on purpose. In the summer of that year a Chinese betting cartel took over ownership of the club & thought it was a good idea to give the players massive bonuses for intentionally losing even though the club & subsequently the players would be in a significantly better position (as in avoiding relegation) if they won their match vs FC Haka. Nearly every player & coach at Allanssi went along with this idea because like Jackie Smith, they knew that they would be paid regardless of what happened. They then lost to FC Haka 8-0 with the team putting on an absolutely awful performance with the club's fans jeering them ruthlessly. Despite this loss, Allanssi still managed to avoid relegation by 1 point as they won their final two games. What is even more remarkable is that the Finnish FA did not find any evidence that this behavior by Allanssi was match fixing even though it clearly was as a few FC Haka players later came forward & mentioned that they were approached by the Allanssi chairman & told to "go hard" at them in exchange for bribes. As for what happened to AC Allanssi afterwards, by April of the following year they had folded after the Chinese betting cartel decided to pull their funding & no local owners could be found.
Just to be fair, I'm a Redskins fan, and at the time of events in this video, there were a few divisions with 5 teams, not 4. That's tough. Rivalry games are already rough, often ending in splits. Having 4 rivals, not 3? The NFC East was one such division back then. With the Dallas Cowboys dominating the division in the 70s.
I remember watching the telecast of that game; it's hard to believe it's 50 years ago. I doubt if the patrons of Jackie's Place ordered many drinks after it became apparent that the Cardinals weren't going to win. Alert viewers will notice Tim Van Galder and Gary Cuozzo at quarterback for the Cardinals in this video as well as Jim Hart.
Cuozzo and his number 15 were easy to spot. How he got the job as Vikes QB in 1970 following the departure of Joe Kapp ruined any Viking hopes of getting back to the SB until they got Tark back from the Giants.
Fun Fact: You said the Cards didn't stand a chance in this game. Well, they did score first and it was 7-7 at halftime. The wheels didn't come off until the 3rd quarter. That said I seriously doubt a competitor like Jackie Smith would want to lose a playoff game.
A little disingenuous on reasons Rozelle was forcing Namath to sell. IT wasn't for conflict of interest reasons, it was who was frequenting Namath's bar, the type of people who never would be caught dead at Jackie's bar.
Sure, there's a conflict of interest but I don't think there's anything here, like you eventually said. I'm pretty sure Jackie realized that they were getting dusted anyway. Besides, it's really hard for a TE to determine the outcome of the game. Pete Rozelle was pretty egotistical, warring with Joe Namath gets him plenty of press, warring with Jackie Smith gets him nothing.
My argument with the Namath situation is that Rozelle had NO right to demand anything from him because the AFL/NFL merger did not happen yet so he had no right to boss around an AFL player at all since he was NOT the commissioner of the AFL.
This... might be pushing it, JG. Somehow, I doubt that the money that he would have gotten from the W wouldn't have been more than the free drinks at his bar.
I linked the video. He retired in the middle of the 1969 offseason. He came out of retirement after he and Rozelle hashed things out, but he was retired
Hmmm....if he was willing to possibly not play his "best" game here because of money, it makes me wonder what else he was willing to do for money? Such as become "the sickest man in America"? After that infamous drop.
@matthewdaley746 are you talking about the Starbach pass? Idk bud, hit him pretty much square in the chest, even though he was sliding. Definitely not a hard catch for most Hugh school boys, and Definitely a must catch for ANY professional.
It's an unspeakable tragedy, that the Chargers have had to deal with pathetic ownership for, nearly, fifty years, first, you had Gene Klein, who bought the team to be part of a club, while, his true passion was horseracing, followed by, The, Spanos, Family, if they'd had even moderately good ownership, they're, likely, a, Dynasty, period.
@ actually, if every team has decently good owners, there wouldn’t be any dynasties. They would be doing everything they could to keep their teams competitive that no one team would have the upper hand over the entire league. But you’re right. The Chargers have been under such cursed and wretched people for decades.
@elfofcourage Thank You, ironically, one of the greatest teams ever, (the Steelers), were great, in, spite, of their owners, The, Rooney, Family, very, nearly, got their team contracted before they lucked into Chuck Noll, and, their, Dynasty, lasted exactly eight years before pathetic drafting obliterated it, banners fly forever, but, boy, did they know how to make everything, come crashing down.
Not the smartest way to get clicks. Joe Namath allegedly had known "gangsters" frequently coming to his club. Len Dawson was under scrutiny because he shared the SAME LAST NAME of a big time gambler. There were Baltimore Colts players that their game was thrown against the Jets. It was a different time.
Jim Hart was sacked only 6 times in 14 games in the ‘75 season….1.7% of his drop backs. Against the Rams, he was sacked twice….or, 4.6% of his dropbacks. These were the Rams they were playing…a team that allowed less than 10 points and 240 yards a game and gathered 48 sacks in 14 games. They weren’t playing against the ‘66 Giants defense here.
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Jackie was a beast. He was huge, fast, and strong. A great who's still with us. In fact, he turns 85 in February
Holy mackerel, this is why I'm subbed to this channel! Stories like this I never get in the wild, thanks man. I loved how he was pretending not to understand how a bar named "Tight End" could be seen as sexual. Quality content my man =)
What the absolute fuck was that ad-read??
Dude, those were some DANGEROUS claims to be making.
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Jordan's Furniture does that with the Red Sox in the Boston area.
I will never forget that drop in the SB. Dallas was my favorite team as a kid, and up until Jacksonville finally got the Jags. I was not mad at him because it happens. That was heartbreaking though.
That SB was the Steelers in a nutshell, they got largely outplayed, while, every single break went their way, the same thing happened the following season, but, the, Victory Parade, after SB 14 was barely over before the bill finally came due, they didn't even make the Playoffs for three more years, and, later tossed their future down a sewer, when they chose the corpse of Terry Bradshaw over Dan Marino, those Cowboys never returned to the SB, but, made five Playoff appearances in six years, while the Raiders won two of the next four SBs, coincidence, I think, not.
@@matthewdaley746 Yeah. I always felt the Cowboys and Steelers were both guilty of hanging on to players that should have been upgraded. I am referring to that time period. I don't know who made the final decisions , but age is a real thing. I always felt like Danny White was a good QB, but the talent around him was not the same, and maybe the game passed them by at that point.
@kenhill3230 The Steelers, oddly enough, were a victim of their own success, they, absolutely, positively, shouldn't have won SB 14, but, by sheer dumb luck, they did, unfortunately, they would take the complete wrong message from it, instead, of realizing that their veterans were finally, beginning to wear down, and, needed replacing, they, instead, decided that they'd, "earned the right," to stay together, from, 1980-1984, their core slowly began to retire, and, their terrible, Post-1974, drafting was absolutely ruinous, OTOH, the, Cowboys-Raiders, transitioned rather seamlessly, drafted well until, 1977, and, 1983, respectively, and, the bottom didn't fall out, until after the 1985 season.
@@matthewdaley746 Well in the Steelers defense with Terry Bradshaw they thought they had a few more seasons with him left in the tank. But During the summer practice sessions before the 1983 season Bradshaw slipped on mud and injured his elbow on his throwing arm causing him to miss almost all of the season and forcing him to retire. However they should have drafted Dan Marino though in 1983. About them getting lucky to win SB XIV to quote the voice of NFL Films John Facenda "Great teams are not always great. They are great when they have to be."
@@kenhill3230 You got that right look on how long they kept Tom Landry and Tex Stram until they got new ownership and Jerry Jones changed everything in 1989. Hell Ed Too Tall Jones was still there as a player during Jimmy Johnson's 1st season as Cowboys' Head Coach. Yeah I know Jones took a break from playing football to go after a boxing career. During the lateral part of the 1980s Landry started to fall off and had losing season after losing season.
Keep this in mind back then NFL players were only playing for pocket change. Their main income would come from other jobs. This end owned a bar back then in addition to playing in the NFL. The bar was his main income
Not just football, MLB, HOFer Harmon Killebrew actually made more money with his other job, and, second if not third jobs were the norm, period.
@@matthewdaley746 Used to be the same in the NBA as well. The plumbers insult you hear nowadays towards older players comes from the fact that in the old days they weren't full time basketball players and needed other jobs to pay the bills.
@tkdmanbb185 Part of that, was the fact that the draft used to be, considerably, longer, there were players drafted who had no business being drafted, even the players knew it, they hoped they could fool a team into signing them before they got exposed, as a result, the draft was later lowered to two rounds.
yah but at the same time. Only about today 40 years later, has inflation got to the point where the average guy makes what a lower end PRO sport player made back then. And by average guy today I mean like 80k or so.
@@MarkVremMoney really evolves, unquestionably.
I guess the Vikings were awesome about making adjustments that season! They clearly learned their lesson from their previous encounter with the Cardinals.
In their 1975 playoff loss to the Rams, Jackie Smith caught 1 pass for 1 yard.
This is very similar to what happened in Finland's top soccer league in 2005 though it was an entire team, AC Allanssi that was accused of losing on purpose. In the summer of that year a Chinese betting cartel took over ownership of the club & thought it was a good idea to give the players massive bonuses for intentionally losing even though the club & subsequently the players would be in a significantly better position (as in avoiding relegation) if they won their match vs FC Haka. Nearly every player & coach at Allanssi went along with this idea because like Jackie Smith, they knew that they would be paid regardless of what happened. They then lost to FC Haka 8-0 with the team putting on an absolutely awful performance with the club's fans jeering them ruthlessly. Despite this loss, Allanssi still managed to avoid relegation by 1 point as they won their final two games. What is even more remarkable is that the Finnish FA did not find any evidence that this behavior by Allanssi was match fixing even though it clearly was as a few FC Haka players later came forward & mentioned that they were approached by the Allanssi chairman & told to "go hard" at them in exchange for bribes. As for what happened to AC Allanssi afterwards, by April of the following year they had folded after the Chinese betting cartel decided to pull their funding & no local owners could be found.
Apparently, consciences, exist, unquestionably.
A 10th round pick back then would be a 4th round pick today based on the number of selections.....just for a little perspective.
Just to be fair, I'm a Redskins fan, and at the time of events in this video, there were a few divisions with 5 teams, not 4. That's tough. Rivalry games are already rough, often ending in splits. Having 4 rivals, not 3? The NFC East was one such division back then. With the Dallas Cowboys dominating the division in the 70s.
I would not be shocked if Rozelle said something to Jackie about it, and gave him a verbal slap on the wrist that was kept hush hush.
I remember watching the telecast of that game; it's hard to believe it's 50 years ago. I doubt if the patrons of Jackie's Place ordered many drinks after it became apparent that the Cardinals weren't going to win.
Alert viewers will notice Tim Van Galder and Gary Cuozzo at quarterback for the Cardinals in this video as well as Jim Hart.
Cuozzo and his number 15 were easy to spot. How he got the job as Vikes QB in 1970 following the departure of Joe Kapp ruined any Viking hopes of getting back to the SB until they got Tark back from the Giants.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t the only story like this in NFL history.
Fun Fact: You said the Cards didn't stand a chance in this game. Well, they did score first and it was 7-7 at halftime. The wheels didn't come off until the 3rd quarter. That said I seriously doubt a competitor like Jackie Smith would want to lose a playoff game.
Does it matter?
A little disingenuous on reasons Rozelle was forcing Namath to sell. IT wasn't for conflict of interest reasons, it was who was frequenting Namath's bar, the type of people who never would be caught dead at Jackie's bar.
In the 1970s, the winning players got twice as much as the losing players.
The only time the cardinals ever finished as the #1 seed.
Sure, there's a conflict of interest but I don't think there's anything here, like you eventually said. I'm pretty sure Jackie realized that they were getting dusted anyway. Besides, it's really hard for a TE to determine the outcome of the game. Pete Rozelle was pretty egotistical, warring with Joe Namath gets him plenty of press, warring with Jackie Smith gets him nothing.
@TrocarSlushWeasel Namath's bar was frequented by mobsters, which is why Rozelle wanted him to sell his interest in Bachelors III.
@@jab1289That's most likely how Namath knew the fix was in and thus, guaranteed victory.
My argument with the Namath situation is that Rozelle had NO right to demand anything from him because the AFL/NFL merger did not happen yet so he had no right to boss around an AFL player at all since he was NOT the commissioner of the AFL.
Does JG9 know he's an ad?
This... might be pushing it, JG. Somehow, I doubt that the money that he would have gotten from the W wouldn't have been more than the free drinks at his bar.
Why was Jackie Smith involved in the promotion aspect of his bar?
Broncos did after they beat the Steelers with Tebow
Who is "we"?
Well if they were so so far behind say at half time I would have left
Well how can you say the NFL made Joe retire when he win a Superbowl and played into the middle of the 70's era
I linked the video. He retired in the middle of the 1969 offseason. He came out of retirement after he and Rozelle hashed things out, but he was retired
I’m barely a minute into this video and I’m already drunk.
EDIT: So were the patrons of Jackie Smith’s bar.
Hmmm....if he was willing to possibly not play his "best" game here because of money, it makes me wonder what else he was willing to do for money? Such as become "the sickest man in America"? After that infamous drop.
Sadly thrown pass, unquestionably.
@matthewdaley746 are you talking about the Starbach pass? Idk bud, hit him pretty much square in the chest, even though he was sliding. Definitely not a hard catch for most Hugh school boys, and Definitely a must catch for ANY professional.
@@isthiswherewecameinTiming seriously off, unquestionably.
Yeah buddy!
I think you told us a Whopper at 7:30.
Viewers absolutely rule, unquestionably.
unless it is a tie ! re: your ad.
Tie is a push and you get your money back
You forgot to mention that Mexican restaurant in San Diego that offered free tacos for every game the chargers lost after moving to LA.
It's an unspeakable tragedy, that the Chargers have had to deal with pathetic ownership for, nearly, fifty years, first, you had Gene Klein, who bought the team to be part of a club, while, his true passion was horseracing, followed by, The, Spanos, Family, if they'd had even moderately good ownership, they're, likely, a, Dynasty, period.
@ actually, if every team has decently good owners, there wouldn’t be any dynasties. They would be doing everything they could to keep their teams competitive that no one team would have the upper hand over the entire league.
But you’re right. The Chargers have been under such cursed and wretched people for decades.
@elfofcourage Thank You, ironically, one of the greatest teams ever, (the Steelers), were great, in, spite, of their owners, The, Rooney, Family, very, nearly, got their team contracted before they lucked into Chuck Noll, and, their, Dynasty, lasted exactly eight years before pathetic drafting obliterated it, banners fly forever, but, boy, did they know how to make everything, come crashing down.
BAD PASS FROM ROGER , LOW
Timing, severely, off, unquestionably.
Not the smartest way to get clicks. Joe Namath allegedly had known "gangsters" frequently coming to his club. Len Dawson was under scrutiny because he shared the SAME LAST NAME of a big time gambler. There were Baltimore Colts players that their game was thrown against the Jets. It was a different time.
This dude is best remembered for me for coming out of retirement and dropping a touchdown pass with the cowgirls
Jim Hart was sacked only 6 times in 14 games in the ‘75 season….1.7% of his drop backs. Against the Rams, he was sacked twice….or, 4.6% of his dropbacks. These were the Rams they were playing…a team that allowed less than 10 points and 240 yards a game and gathered 48 sacks in 14 games. They weren’t playing against the ‘66 Giants defense here.