This is pretty fun to watch as I am making a 13s 7p battery for my buddies drift trike right now! I am one of those Ebay seller though so I have a couple thousand 18650's sitting around, I used lower capacity ones mostly between 2.1-2.4 since I was really just wanting to make sure there was enough in parallel to provide sufficient current. Then I also found a 52v 2A charger sitting around in a junk pile so that was helpful!
Yeah, I’m sending this link to Micah right now, not sure if he watched yet, couldn’t find his comment here but he will LOVE to see you showing his book and the VRUZEND kit. Micah worked so hard to get these things right (book and battery kit), I’m glad you liked and are recommending his work to others =] Drift trike POWEEEEEERRRRRR
Awesome work but we'll see how it handles :/ it should feel pretty weird withe FWD i think it would be better RWD but You'll get used to it , i guess. anyways the idea is incredible and your work i excellent :) good luck!
Oh crap, these are our batteries! Hey man reach to me on Facebook. I want to send you batteries for your projects and support your channel. Congrats on the success
cool, vruzend really made everything pretty easy to do, one fundamental flaw is the motor is on the wrong wheel, you want to be able to do a burnout with your back tires otherwise they wont slide. they will for the most part stay connected to the pavement so you will have high friction on the back wheel which doesnt give a good drift. anyway it is a cool and simple build and I bet it goes fast.
Someone who puts links to the high current wires in the link? That's a first, nice one! Dealt with Banggood many times and damn happy with them. Even on the odd time something went wrong their customer service worked hard to rectify the problem, too. Now, to find an Aussie seller of 18650s that doesn't charge an arm and a leg. Was buying faulty laptop packs at $1 each from the local IT place but they've made a deal with someone local building their own battery wall, so that source is gone. Sad. Have seen those battery kits before and they look rather good. IIRC on the ebikes youtube channel you mentioned. I'm tempted to pick up his books as well (unless I get really lucky & win it one day) Building a frank-e-bike - sort of. Taking the motor from an angle grinder (thanks Banggood!)and going to attempt to incorporate it with a heavy duty 12V battery, some smoothing capacitors and a 12VDC to 220VAC inverter to power the grinder. That's after I placate the landlord by hiding the bike parts he doesn't like
Awesome battery build. I do not see a torque arm on the front fork. Those hub motors are powerful and can bend or even break the dropouts. I look forward to your next electric drift trike video.
This video inspired my to get a Leaf hub motor for my electric sidecar. I got two flat tires right away and learned a few things. The spokes nipples where loose and need some thread lock. I also have to use a special tube with a threaded metal valve stem and a nut securing the tube to the rim. The Leaf motor pulled a standard rubber valve stem out of the tube.
Batteries: free-$4 cell Bms: $20-$40 Vruzend: spendy? Don't remember off the top of my head. Prob like 50 bucks Wire: 10ga $1 ft 22ga .50 ft Connectors: $1 pc
check out the home made battery spot welders that use a small motorcycle battery, and strips purchased from ebay. Decidedly cheaper, and probably less prone to problems with high resistance joints and heat problems. ( remember how many Teslas burn to the ground with mulitcell packs.)
I would seriously think about changing that charging plug. At 58v (nominal) at 3 amps that’s 174watts of power going though a pissy 2.1mm jack plug. Chuck a deans plug on it instead as you don’t want it melting and shorting together internally. Also if I was you I’d put an inline fuse between you battery and the deans connector in case something shorts too.
Amperage is the most important thing when choosing a connector, as the amount of heat produced is a function of amperage and resistance. Voltage plays no part. As long as the insulation is good enough to prevent arcs and sparks, it doesn't matter what voltage he is running as long as the connector can handle the current. The wattage is especially not of consequence as it fails to represent current.
Very cool buil.d ! I appreciate. The.details on the batteries. And the charger. That was good info. Shared. That not that many. You tubers. Share. In their videos i. Enjoy. Your channel. Because. Of. That. Being the way. You. Do things. And explain the reasoning behind your builds Teaching the. Battery. Pack. System was. Very cool. As well ! Let’s. Face it this type of technology. Is. Where it is at these days. Electric vehicles. And toys. Are. Our future. I myself. Have. Always wanted to build my own. Electric. Powered. Car. And i like. Understanding. The technology. And process. As much as possible. As. I probably. Will. Start out. With. Smaller. Projects. Like. Go carts. And E bikes. To. Get a good. Base. Of understanding. And troubleshooting. That type of. Machines. I personally. Am 53 years of age. So. Most of the. High tech. Industry. Is something. I had to learn as. A adult. Unlike. The younger generations. Who. Have been raised. With. Computers. And. That technology all their lives !
Liitokala engineer 500 is junk or joke first entry level capacity meter opus BT3100 the peak high quality capacity meter is SKYRC MC 3000..... only for orientation.... 👍 Great video...... 👍
Dude, can you list a link to where to buy those battery testers? (@0:42) -- Do they just test the batteries and tell you the actual mAh?? -- If so, I absolutely need one! :D
Is this the same battery pack you're planning to use for the alternator powered go kart? From the labels it looks like these cells are rated for 2C discharge and at 18.2Ah that's only about 36.4A to work with. Were you able to measure the load on that motor before it blew up your old battery?
Im designing a mini super atv that's children friendly for my little nephew so Im interested in building my own pack as well. I did some more research the cells you're using have a 1.44C discharge rate and looking at the power graph for your e-bike motor it draws in more than 90A under load to generate enough torque to spin it. So those numbers don't really add up unless I'm misreading things
Hi Michael, Unfortunately I did make a mistake choosing the LG cells which I will talk about in my next video. You are correct. The LG cells cannot discharge enough current for this application. The next video will be uploaded shortly. I explain the issue as well as what I did to fix it.
Look up repackr.com you can enter each cells capacity and It evens it out for you so you have as close as possible mine came within 1 mah of each other
Very nice I did like your go cart build as well. Also like the terminals on that battery way cleaner look just need to use your 3D printer to clean up your wires :P haha JK good job man!
please can u make me one ?, for my 11yr son e-bike conversion kit, im disabled in my right arm, so I cant make nor can I afford one, but I will pay for the parts and pieces it took to make battery pack. Lead acid battery just don't last
6:47 - Can someone explain why he’s got the yellow and green cables in the junction box (yellow box) going to the motor backwards? I’ve got the same controller going to a 2KW brushless motor and I don’t wanna fry anything (haven’t tested it yet)
Those are the 3 phase motor wires. The motor was spinning in the reverse direction when I first wired it up. Switching two of the phase wires will cause the motor to run in the opposite direction.
should have made it RWD so it's actually drifting and not just dragging slippery rear wheels. still a cool project. i'm making a 12s mini dirt bike that i should probably start documenting and throwing up on youtube.
Don't worry I will be making another video after its finished where I will be putting a motor on the back. That is why I went with a live axle. It should still be a ton of fun both ways. Good luck with your project!
This is pretty fun to watch as I am making a 13s 7p battery for my buddies drift trike right now! I am one of those Ebay seller though so I have a couple thousand 18650's sitting around, I used lower capacity ones mostly between 2.1-2.4 since I was really just wanting to make sure there was enough in parallel to provide sufficient current. Then I also found a 52v 2A charger sitting around in a junk pile so that was helpful!
Yeah, I’m sending this link to Micah right now, not sure if he watched yet, couldn’t find his comment here but he will LOVE to see you showing his book and the VRUZEND kit.
Micah worked so hard to get these things right (book and battery kit), I’m glad you liked and are recommending his work to others =]
Drift trike POWEEEEEERRRRRR
Thanks man! His book and battery kit were so helpful for me and can be helpful for many others!
Ahhh I missed your message and just saw this now! So cool!!!
Awesome work, dude! That battery connectors are really amazing! 😀
Thanks man!
Good job
Awesome work but we'll see how it handles :/ it should feel pretty weird withe FWD i think it would be better RWD but You'll get used to it , i guess. anyways the idea is incredible and your work i excellent :) good luck!
10/10 would purchase a drift trike from you! Great work!
Looks awesome, I want to take a turn riding this thing!!
Very nicely done and nicely shown to! Too! Thank you for that!
Oh crap, these are our batteries! Hey man reach to me on Facebook. I want to send you batteries for your projects and support your channel. Congrats on the success
He is the best DIY on youtube
Great video. I have Micha Toll’s books as well. Highly recommend.
cool, vruzend really made everything pretty easy to do, one fundamental flaw is the motor is on the wrong wheel, you want to be able to do a burnout with your back tires otherwise they wont slide. they will for the most part stay connected to the pavement so you will have high friction on the back wheel which doesnt give a good drift. anyway it is a cool and simple build and I bet it goes fast.
I was waiting for this video with emotion
Someone who puts links to the high current wires in the link? That's a first, nice one! Dealt with Banggood many times and damn happy with them. Even on the odd time something went wrong their customer service worked hard to rectify the problem, too.
Now, to find an Aussie seller of 18650s that doesn't charge an arm and a leg. Was buying faulty laptop packs at $1 each from the local IT place but they've made a deal with someone local building their own battery wall, so that source is gone. Sad.
Have seen those battery kits before and they look rather good. IIRC on the ebikes youtube channel you mentioned. I'm tempted to pick up his books as well (unless I get really lucky & win it one day)
Building a frank-e-bike - sort of. Taking the motor from an angle grinder (thanks Banggood!)and going to attempt to incorporate it with a heavy duty 12V battery, some smoothing capacitors and a 12VDC to 220VAC inverter to power the grinder. That's after I placate the landlord by hiding the bike parts he doesn't like
Great job. The battery connectors are an awesome alternative. Very helpful. You are really good at doing tutorial btw keep up the good work
Great video. Ready for the next one. Thanks.
Simply Amazing
Awesome battery build. I do not see a torque arm on the front fork. Those hub motors are powerful and can bend or even break the dropouts. I look forward to your next electric drift trike video.
Thank you! And thanks for suggesting the torque arm.
This video inspired my to get a Leaf hub motor for my electric sidecar. I got two flat tires right away and learned a few things. The spokes nipples where loose and need some thread lock. I also have to use a special tube with a threaded metal valve stem and a nut securing the tube to the rim. The Leaf motor pulled a standard rubber valve stem out of the tube.
This video is shockingly awesome. Im surprised RUclips hasnt taken it down. How do you detonate it though?
Awesome video of an Awesome project!
In the front wheel ? 🤔
Very good idea, its smart
Can We Use car battries? Can u make a video for it 😊
The hole on the side of your soldering iron is for heat shrink.
great video, cant wait for part 3... ride review! =)
Nice work, looks awesome
Total cost of DIY battery pack?
Batteries: free-$4 cell
Bms: $20-$40
Vruzend: spendy? Don't remember off the top of my head. Prob like 50 bucks
Wire: 10ga $1 ft 22ga .50 ft
Connectors: $1 pc
Cheaper to buy a Chinese made 24v36v48v
@@pojdiavaj1422 but he has name brand batteries with good capacity
You really need to get a better soldering iron. That solder wasn't flowing together like it should be.
Good quality leaded solder will probably give more of an improvement for less money.
No smoke, that's a good thing.
really amazing
Wow this is awesome. Great work!!
Thanks Tim!
check out the home made battery spot welders that use a small motorcycle battery, and strips purchased from ebay. Decidedly cheaper, and probably less prone to problems with high resistance joints and heat problems. ( remember how many Teslas burn to the ground with mulitcell packs.)
harbor freight heat gun.. $10.. are you using the correct wire guage for the current ?
But if your battery is over 58v fully charged does that mean that your charger is actually more than it's rated 52v? Can it charge each cell to 4.2v?
Awesome job man!!!! You're a genius, new suscriber
I would seriously think about changing that charging plug. At 58v (nominal) at 3 amps that’s 174watts of power going though a pissy 2.1mm jack plug. Chuck a deans plug on it instead as you don’t want it melting and shorting together internally. Also if I was you I’d put an inline fuse between you battery and the deans connector in case something shorts too.
Amperage is the most important thing when choosing a connector, as the amount of heat produced is a function of amperage and resistance. Voltage plays no part. As long as the insulation is good enough to prevent arcs and sparks, it doesn't matter what voltage he is running as long as the connector can handle the current. The wattage is especially not of consequence as it fails to represent current.
That 14S7P battery pack can only output 35 amps max (those cells are only rated for 5amp peak continuous output).
Cool! Job well done! So far..😊
Very cool buil.d ! I appreciate. The.details on the batteries. And the charger. That was good info. Shared. That not that many. You tubers. Share. In their videos i. Enjoy. Your channel. Because. Of. That. Being the way. You. Do things. And explain the reasoning behind your builds Teaching the. Battery. Pack. System was. Very cool. As well ! Let’s. Face it this type of technology. Is. Where it is at these days. Electric vehicles. And toys. Are. Our future. I myself. Have. Always wanted to build my own. Electric. Powered. Car. And i like. Understanding. The technology. And process. As much as possible. As. I probably. Will. Start out. With. Smaller. Projects. Like. Go carts. And E bikes. To. Get a good. Base. Of understanding. And troubleshooting. That type of. Machines. I personally. Am 53 years of age. So. Most of the. High tech. Industry. Is something. I had to learn as. A adult. Unlike. The younger generations. Who. Have been raised. With. Computers. And. That technology all their lives !
You having issues with your keyboard dude?
Apparently he’s a 53yo
could you 3d print the VRUZEND battery kit plastic pieces?
Awesome!
What is the cable along the the positive and negative that only connects back to itself whats its use
A work of art! New sub.
best you tube vid since that dude building the clay house using only his hands.are you an electrical engineer?
Thanks man haha! and I am an electrical technologist.
Liitokala engineer 500 is junk or joke first entry level capacity meter opus BT3100 the peak high quality capacity meter is SKYRC MC 3000.....
only for orientation.... 👍
Great video...... 👍
You should put the positive and neutral connections on opposite sides of the battery
Dude, can you list a link to where to buy those battery testers? (@0:42) -- Do they just test the batteries and tell you the actual mAh?? -- If so, I absolutely need one! :D
good job bro! i want to see this batteries put in your alternator motor go kart, please make a video. congratulations from Mexico.
I dont want to make a battery pack. Can you suggest a battery pack that is compatible with the rest of the tools?
Is this the same battery pack you're planning to use for the alternator powered go kart? From the labels it looks like these cells are rated for 2C discharge and at 18.2Ah that's only about 36.4A to work with. Were you able to measure the load on that motor before it blew up your old battery?
Im designing a mini super atv that's children friendly for my little nephew so Im interested in building my own pack as well. I did some more research the cells you're using have a 1.44C discharge rate and looking at the power graph for your e-bike motor it draws in more than 90A under load to generate enough torque to spin it. So those numbers don't really add up unless I'm misreading things
Hi Michael, Unfortunately I did make a mistake choosing the LG cells which I will talk about in my next video. You are correct. The LG cells cannot discharge enough current for this application. The next video will be uploaded shortly. I explain the issue as well as what I did to fix it.
SICK!!!
Great video. But what does 14s7p mean?
configuration of battery pack
14 in series
7 in parallel
Awesome Creativity.....
Dang that's a lot of battery!
How long can last the battery dude? and how long can you drive before the batteries get drained?
Don't the VCT5s have a discharge rate of 30A? Would that affect anything since the LGs are 20A?
Well done
So in theory this should last around 20 minutes right?
1.31 per cell? damn, the price has gone up. Only couple of years ago you could get away with 30-35cents per cell via old laptop batteries.
Nice job!
Did you group same capacity cells ? Either way nice build :)
I trike to even out the capacities of each parallel group as closely as I could. Thanks!
Look up repackr.com you can enter each cells capacity and It evens it out for you so you have as close as possible mine came within 1 mah of each other
Build a three wheel drive drift cart..then you can really kick ass!!!!
I love stuff like this but why not just buy a preassembled battery?
Where did you get the case to hold the battery?
where did you bought the 1600watt 48volt ah battery pack in the go kart video
You that you buy those cells without the casing.
Is that a Pegatron PB013 backup battery pack?
amazing !
very cool!
What was the total time did it take to build this battery pack
would 12 volt car batteries work?
Why not use lipo batteries? Also you should consider adding disc brakes.
Red Clay the motor is a brake.
How did the alternator as a motor hold up does it last?
Where's the vid of the demo?
Very nice I did like your go cart build as well. Also like the terminals on that battery way cleaner look just need to use your 3D printer to clean up your wires :P haha JK good job man!
Thank you!
Good job
Thanks!
Badass
please can u make me one ?, for my 11yr son e-bike conversion kit, im disabled in my right arm, so I cant make nor can I afford one, but I will pay for the parts and pieces it took to make battery pack.
Lead acid battery just don't last
As old uncle bumblefuck would say, skookam
Cool
GREAT.... LOVE THAT VIDEO ...!
ALL HAIL
Total cost and how long does it last
6:47 - Can someone explain why he’s got the yellow and green cables in the junction box (yellow box) going to the motor backwards?
I’ve got the same controller going to a 2KW brushless motor and I don’t wanna fry anything (haven’t tested it yet)
Those are the 3 phase motor wires. The motor was spinning in the reverse direction when I first wired it up. Switching two of the phase wires will cause the motor to run in the opposite direction.
austiwawa - Thanks
Can’t wait to see that finished trike run!
should have made it RWD so it's actually drifting and not just dragging slippery rear wheels. still a cool project. i'm making a 12s mini dirt bike that i should probably start documenting and throwing up on youtube.
Don't worry I will be making another video after its finished where I will be putting a motor on the back. That is why I went with a live axle. It should still be a ton of fun both ways. Good luck with your project!
Super bro
How long does this battery run for?
Where you buy this batteries ?? 😱
I think that frame is weak connected, it will crack in welding point...
Supporting it more!
How much battery power is??
drifting and fwd don't go together...
if you have zero traction on the rear wheels it does. havent you seen nitrous circus???
@@kominy100 No, no it doesnt. Thats called sliding. This isnt drifting. He cannot maintain the drift
mmm indeed he can. Just not as much control
That is what a drift is lol. "Power slide" ever heard the phrase
"That's not flying! He's just falling. In style" lmao
Will a car battery work??
how do you know how to do all this stuff?
To drift you need to have power on the back wheels
Dominik Wojciechowski never heard of front wheel drifting?
What?? Hang on.. a front wheel drive drift trike? Eh.. Ok.
Pretty awesome build till you made it fwd its not a drift trike anymore its just a powered big wheel.
how much KG? Please check it.
u should make a powerwall for a house
So what's the next video?
Ok Middle Sheldon
what is a '14S' battery?
oh okay, 14cells in series :)
Can you combo it make it awd
You didn’t link the throttle