Marie Louise von Franz - "When A Man Has Not Developed His Anima, His Feminine Side Is Narcissistic"
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Marie-Louise von Franz was a Jungian psychologist who was considered one of Jung's closest disciples. This clip from a documentary called The Way of the Dream. Full video here: • Video
I guess this is what Nietzsche meant when he said that we are more in love with love than the beloved
So painfully true.
Devastating and liberating
I believe this autoerotic love is very similar for the vast majority of the young (male and females) in the Collective West cultures. Only age and unhappy experiences allow for emotional growth. This is what I've learned and observed throughout my life. Young females are as driven towards sex as young men; both are driven by raging hormones - this is how humanity thrives and grows - it's biology.
The east is a bit different
You said you learned and observed...; from within and then outside or vice versa ? Im being critical, is there a thought, "the world is so and so, nearly or completely ill, but I don't see something in myself. " ?
I would like to ask her about women , in particular whether she agrees with the old adage :
'The man desires the woman, the woman desires the mans desire.'
Good observation. It’s like a mating dance between both projections ie the female animus and the male anima
Perhaps a female narcissist desires the man's desire because only then will he serve her.
I wish I could do it right. It's all I want to do, and all I can't. No one deserves my flawed fixations.
That is exactly what your underdeveloped anima wants you to believe. Do not listen to her. That is self-pity
It’s seems like tempering that desire is a more accurate perspective than eliminating it altogether
This lady will be back
I'll be back
Mystics in India have a saying that a man(gender) who achieves spiritual bliss or a certain metaphysical achievement becomes feminine by traits. So this checks out perfectly.
At 1:46 to the end, she mentions that as soon as the transformation starts to take place, other men with an undeveloped anima will try to keep the woman to themselves as an object, which leads to the tendecies of relapsing.
Does that mean that as a man struggles to transform his anima, so should the woman be conscious of this transformation in order to know when she is becoming the object of another man's ideal romanticisms and autoerotic fantasies? That is for a stable relationship to be found.
The movie 500 days of Summer comes to mind.
This is amazing. I would love to see the full interview as well!
Aye. Agree. Full Interview please.
here it is ruclips.net/video/yXQTDTcup04/видео.html
@@callingallrunaways6008 :)
It's from a ten-hour series of MLvF doing dream analysis. The whole thing is up on RUclips.
I found it split in 4 parts in a RUclips channel called "Destructard".
Do you know where I can find this interview in it’s entirety? Thank you 😁
It's a full audiobook
"The way of the dream" von Marie-Luise von Franz
I found it split in 4 parts in a RUclips channel called "Destructard".
Fascinating.
Anyone who can suggest any source to check how to achieve the transformation from the black (primitive) Anima to the Golden Anima?
Being pure and building yourself on the concept of true love.
drop the needy part of yourself. do not want anything from woman, focus on being best version of yourself. enjoy the life, not the pleasures of it.
@@adsadsaddFQ exactly , being stoïc help you too.
& @scr scr Perhaps these books by Robert A. Johnson would help, esp 1-4; I've not read #5 (the URL takes you to a list of his books & their reviews): 1) "He: Understanding Masculine Psychology"; 2) "She: Understanding Feminine Psychology"; 3) "We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love"; 4) "Lying with the Heavenly Woman: Understanding and Integrating the Feminine Archetypes in Men's Lives"; 5) "Owning Your Own Shadow: Understanding the Dark Side of the Psyche"; 5) "Transformation: Understanding the Three Levels of Masculine Consciousness".
www.goodreads.com/author/list/6258.Robert_A_Johnson
@@nicholasdipilla6993 "being stoic", key concept :D
Way too accurate 😮😮😮
This kind of thinking and framing of emotional and spiritual phenomena in terms of 'masculine' and 'feminine' is extremely flawed, the main cause of todays misunderstandings and 'animosity' amongst sexes and is wreaking havoc in modern western societies; it's also an expression of feminine 'narcissism'.
You realize that your last statement is framing emotional phenomenon in the same way you derided. A thing you said in your first scentence is bad. It makes sense considering that you seem to think these ideas are driving animosity between the sexes, when in reality it your own misunderstanding of the terms as well as why society has such animosity between sexes in the first place within modern western society.
Thus that you have shown yourself to be a hypocrite, in that it is supposedly driving western society apart and is a flawed ideal, yet it is reasonable to use it to describe something. Why use the term feminine narcissism if you think the ideal of using those terms is bad unless you have some agenda. Double thinking, and double speak. I would really like to know how you think it is that it is wreaking havoc in western society because i am sure most of what you point to is a societal problem pinned to something entirely different.
Shes talking style and accent exactly same with jung
Swiss-South German accent is really strong. Dig up some audio footage of Einstein he talked like that too.
@@tictactoe101 you're right
No that's a dialect typical to a certain place .
Since youtube has deleted the 10 hour version can anyone tell me where to find it elsewhere ?
I found it split in 4 parts in a RUclips channel called "Destructard". :)
@@iamlindavilela ,Thank you very much !
Please upload full interview?
I found it split in 4 parts in a RUclips channel called "Destructard".
I don't usually agree with this stuff, but this is an exception.
“This stuff” meaning?
@@morganroyalty4556 Applying symbolic Jungian terms to real life.
@@GuineaPig361 you can’t really agree with just one concept, it’s all true in parts.
I see it everyday, daddy and mommy issues are part of what attacts people to one another.
Some people aren’t self aware enough to even realise they have them or just don’t care.
That’s because there a lot of new age stupidness that has infiltrated Jungian camps . Von Franz is a direct disciple of Jung with her great contributions to analytical psychology.
How do you develop your anima
Post that
Great content by the way keep it up
Record dreams and take note of female figures.
Meditation combined with a virtuous lifestyle and a burning love for Truth will awaken her.
@@ameliaboucher598 Yup. Dream-work is also very important.
Even that won't be enough for a woman. Good luck!
Does anyone know where I can find the full interview? The link in the bio no longer works
Fuul video where
damn.
Where I can find the entire interview?
Think this is true, until the second question :D
Of course, the danger of sending Wolfgang Mozart to psychoanalysis for his puerile behaviors is that he loses his music.
wow
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Wtf
Lol
Sounds like an unfortunately racist analogy.
Sound like an unfortunately race obsessed modern goober.
Ad hominem, you lose.