How Furina Raised the Standard For Story In Genshin Impact
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This was originally a scripted video discussing the pros and cons of the Fontaine Story Quest, but about two minuets into the recording i realized I didn't even believe my own cons, and there was no way in hell i was going to be able to get across how i actually felt properly in a scripted format as a result the following turned into a twenty minute rant about Genshin Best Questline
can you give your opinion on furina quest, I am the lucky one that enjoy it but some people not.
@@hanifthabibi7270Personally I think that people misunderstood the quest because they're not used to the "show not tell" way of writing which is very rarely used in Genshin, because the quest only hints without straight up telling you that quite some time passed since the archon quest and Furina has been passing all this time in her home alone just kinda stagnating and being lost, and also that it only hints that Furina's efforts have been recognized as the citizens were told that she gave up her powers to save fontaine.
Some people picked up on those hints and enjoyed the quest, others didn't, I think the only thing they should've done better is emphasize that her boundary was doing more harm than good to her instead of just vaguely implying it.
@@Aiden-iy9du I had the same thought but we need some third party argument
I think Fontaine aq is really great but it has some problems, at least for me.
1: The pacing
During when they are trying to come up with a plan to trap furina in a trial or when they are taking stroll around Fontaine, it feels like the story slows down dramatically, however; we do get to talk to Mona and N which gave some insight about the prophecy which was nice and builds to the final confrontation we have with furina.
2: The whale (Narwal) and childe
I feel like if the whale wasn’t in the story, I don’t think it would change much. I initially thought that the whale was the root cause of the prophecy, but it had nothing to do with it. It was just a pet for skirks master (but skirk gives us some juicy information about the gnosis so it is not all bad). Also childe being deemed guilty wasn’t really explained all that well. He basically was guilty by I guess association or as a distraction which is extremely convenient because what would have happened if he wasn’t in Fontaine at the time or if he didn’t decide to fight the whale. I feel like everything was just left to coincidence. (But I guess it does tie into focators plot point of putting her faith in humanity, so I guess it make so sense)
My last point that I find interesting is the traveler lack of involvement in the story. Instead of us taking an active role like we have done in previous regions, we are for lack of a better term, the witness to everything (probably similar to a jury presiding of a court case) it was an interesting change in how the traveler usually is in each region which I found pretty cool.
All in all if I had to rate Fontaine, I would probably give it a 9.3-9.4. It was written way better than inazuma for sure.
@@nightcorepro5961And better than Sumeru, minus the jail arc, but not overly long as the time loop arc.
You know what's even more impressive about Furina? She, without knowing Focalors plan, managed to guide Neuvilette's character development over 500 years, with 0 experience, and even now Neuvilette still looks up to her.
Now THAT takes a LOOOOOT of skill and strength of character, considering how upstanding Neuvilette became by the end of the story
Yeah... you can see it in the letter Furina sent to him after his story quest. She wants him to interact with his fellow citizens.
Even with that dynamic some still call them Father-Daughter.. nothing will convince me that those people don’t have daddy issues
@@MrcreeperDXD777 best ship in game, not even contest.
@@backpackpepelon3867 I have to agree on that. I'm not usually into shipping. But those two really had something there that I'm sure if the game could make one couple canon, it would be them. They still wrote their relationship like they were a couple.
@@f.b.lagent1113 true... im not gonna personally ship them cuz i hate different species ships but they are definitely somewhat implied
Furina is legitimately my favorite archon. No, it does not matter to me that she's human, the fucking work she put in to her nation, the pain she suffered through, and the absolute selflessness of it all because of how much she loved her people and wanted to help Focalors avert *everybody's deaths* is, to me, what makes her an archon. And a goddamned great one at that.
I have never been so turned around on someone so hard. I also guessed she wasn't exactly being truthful, and had theories that she might be a twin archon in reality and that the responsible twin was collecting indemnitium (not too far off, technically speaking), but it didn't dawn on me what the implications of Furina doing that were until just before the trial, and throughout it I kept saying "Guys wait I get it this is necessary but ease up."
The whole trial felt like kicking a puppy. And in the aftermath of the entire Fontaine arc, Furina just... vanishes. No applause, no thank yous from anyone but Neuvilette and Traveler. Hell, in her quest you learn the people of Poisson are still pissed at her about what happened so I dunno if anyone outside of Neuvilette and Traveler even know the truth about Furina's sacrifice. There are probably guesses but they might be the only two who really TRULY know what she went through.
And yeah, I cried. I cried at the trial, I cried as she whimpered and limped away after we beat the Narwhal, I cried when she got her Vision and had hope reignited in herself for herself in probably the first time in 500 years. She is an absolute chad and goddamnit I want to enroll her in therapy.
Wonderfully said.
Yes this bothered me quite a bit too. And I don't think that the traveler appreciates or understands what she went through judging how cold they were to her afterwards. Neuvillette seemed to be the only one that cared. But he should have at least told the people what she has done to save them. I can understand though that he can't draw attention to what happened with Focalors or Fountaine might be in danger if Celestia knew. And he gave Furina a vision. But still she deserved more acknowledgment for what she went through.
@@amberxv4777I dont wanna sound rude, but if you pay attention to the story quest, its only the people of Poisson that dislike her, everyone else respects her because they have been told that she gave up the archon powers for indemnitium to stop the prophecy.
And I honestly dont think that someone listening and supporting you is "cold" just because of some lighthearted jokes that Furina didn't even mind much.
I think she will become a god in the future cuz the oratrice collect faith power now its gone that faith power will go to furina
TRUEE... she deserves to be called an archon
after this archon quest im actually scared that natlan won't live up to the storytelling lol. it was just that good
I expect its going to have loufo tingyun dying type of plot twist, one banger opening storyline, Maybe a shaky payoff. But the interlude to the next would probably just lore dump shock value onwards.
Then again, the nation of fire, resurrection, war, passion, and love. Now, Im worried it might even be better if they can nail “love transcends even _.” Or would be just a too cliche predictable mess
@@sefjo5223 honestly belebog has a better story than the loufu for hsr
specially considering Furina’s story specializes on heroism, altruism, selflessness and willpower adding to that the idea of someone so fragile (relative to GI universe power scaling) willingly suffered for very long to express those themes (the “fragile” factor or her gender/size, as weird as it sounds is a big biological factor to audience reaction)
there’s also other themes like ironies such as her receiving all the doubts and negativity while in reality what she’s doing is for their sake
those themes appears very well to humans. (there are countless examples IRL since the beginning of civilizations of humans worshipping characters who did or possess such themes) so unless other regions have those themes emphasized as hard as Fontaine’s the bar remains high
I got the feeling they will cook something great, at least sumeru tier. But I'm not dissapointed tho if they're below that by a bit tho, since its just too high. I just hope it's not bland like monds and liyue, or straight up bad like inazuma.
@@appleaj7381 I didn't want to insinuate that, I meant to mention it as if I was to put a lower tier for the next archon quest. I don't expect the next one to be like belobog so we setting a low bar loufo type of twist LOL. But yeah as i said "love transcends _" should have alot of intersting plot points to go from
to add someting to all your minds,
every region is highly inspired by real world writing/stories, khaenriah by norse, liyue by chinese tales, mond by greek, inazuma by japanese history (weapon ban decree of shogun era)
Fontaine is highly inspired by the bible
focalors, furina and the oratrice are the holy trinity
three separate entities that are technically one... one was sent to become a human and go through all the hardships
Death of one of them equated to the forgiveness of sins, oratrice besides looking like a scale also is shaped like a cross
Noah's arc was very clearly referred to with the bird and wriotsley
probably unintentional but furina walks on water ahahaha
I see Furina being free her Ressurection as she technically has a new life now.
Damn, I recognised the ark and flood and stuff as biblical but I did not draw the connection for the holy trinity seems pretty obvious now, nicely done.
I agree. Best reason that this quest is the best is that traveler and Paimon have no big roles. It's mostly Furina and Neuvillette as the Main characters in Fountaine
Traveler is busy hunting the giant whale
@@champagnegascogne9755 he wasn't even doing that. Childe is the one who had the most role to play with the whale
@@amberxv4777Childe was a chad here. Dude was fighting some hungry cosmic narwhal for over a month straight.
Traveler’s only big role was her challenging Furina 💀
Your best reason is sorta my one issue, there's a bit too many things the Traveler does in Fontaine's story that make me go "This wouldn't have changed if the Traveler wasn't here" It makes sense for the Trailblazer from Star Rail to be more of a bystander because that's the idea behind being a Nameless, history isn't supposed to remember your name because you record things. But with the Traveler they certainly didn't feel like the protagonist for a good portion of Fontaine's story, especially in Act 2
Furina is the first character that make me fall in love as a person. I like other characters too but only on superficial level. aka their design and their energy vibe, but Furina is just so different. Her undying strong will, her bravery, her will to sacrifice her self to save the people, her mental endurance for 500 years. She had multiple mental breakdowns through out 500 years but still resilient and remained steadfast. My gods, I love her as a person.
SO TRUE FURINA IS SO WELL WRITTEN. first genshin character to actually make my physically cry... i have hope they'll do natlan really well
most characters I like in the game usually have beautiful designs or the interesting energy vibe they give. However, Furina is the first character in genshin that I actually love as a person, she has beautiful design too but it was her godly undying strong will, bravery, strong mental endurance over the past 500 years and the will to sacrifice herself to ensure the plan works. And after all that ,she goes back to be a humble person, a lovely human. Best written character in the game so far.
No cuz the only character that made me cry in their quest was Xiao (2.7 chasm quest yk what you are) and he was my favorite until Fontaine where I liked him but not as much as I used to but I was always looking forward to Furina even before she was ever officially announced. I loved her design and voice actor (English is my favorite) so much and I wanted the game to do her justice (hehe). Well I was certainly happy with her and I can confidently say she is my favorite character in genshin and will be for awhile because they could do so much with her in further events and story (plz get a part 2 sq)
Furina broke my heart, Kusanali broke my soul.
1. As a person who appreciates not spoiling people immediately, you have my respect for waiting for a week to talk about the quest.
2. I sincerely hope that the upward trend in story quality since the chasm update is gonna keep being an upward trend, cuz every time a new main story has come out since the chasm has just been getting better and better.
sumeru was what made me start to actually pay attention to genshin story, and im so glad it did because jesus christ this archon quest was way to good
Its not like the typical rescue the damsel in distress, fight big bad, everybody is happy type of story. Coming to Fontaine, I never really had much expectation but they did so well with the story. Although they kinda fumbled on Act 3 due to being overly dragging as you go in circles inside the fortress, it didnt really affect the total Archon Quest experience. In fact, Fontaine is shaping to be my fave region so far. Im much looking forward to picking up Fontaine characters now after all thats happened
Literally the only thing negative I can say was the jail arc dragged on a bit. Other than that the end result was well worth it. I used to shit talk Furina cause I was tired of the “archons are useless trope” but this one finally made sense and I liked how it was a big reveal.
Its like you skipped Sumeru and never met Nahida
I freaking loved the 4.2 story. Some of it was predictable but Furina's voice actress hits a grand slam. I felt things (I think they're called emotions) when she delivers her lines. Might have even shed a tear. If you haven't experienced it yet, go play through 4.2 for yourself.
I think most of the community figured out Furina was some kind of fake, but the way it was executed was so good!
Paimon may not repeat the story as often, however, you're gonna hear 'The only one left is the Hydro Archon, weeping on her throne' like 76856756845747684564598 times XD
The prison arc has it's purpose, specially when it comes to crumbs of hints at Furina's story. We experience through that arc what it's like to act out and pretend to be someone else, and how interminable and mind-numbing it can be to do the same thing over and over and over. It makes you, the player, gain just enough experience of what Furina lives through for 500 years so that you can empathize with her when the truth comes out. That part of the story isn't about meeting Wriothesly and Sigewynne, and it's more about mirroring Furina's suffering for both the traveler but also for us as players.
yea and god it a pain like i just scream "Booooooring" of how dull and suck the prision act was then i realize furina suffer this "prison" for 500 years and i can't handle that for few hours.
Definitely a huge step up compared to inazuma archon quest I really liked the little ace attorney mini game in it. I hope this continues to get better in natlan too
An EXTREMELY huge step up from the rushed atrocity that was the Inazuma Archon Quest.
@@rickynguyen5108Indeed.
@@clover.8147
Yep. It's amazing just how shitty and rushed the writing for the final act of the Inazuma Archon Quest was. The final product we got was utter dogshit in execution and storytelling.
It's fucking pathetic and embarrassing that a MULTI-BILLION dollar company can't even do the BARE FUCKING minimum of story writing. Mihoyo has shown that they CAN write a decent story, so what the hell were they on when they wrote that trash of an Archon Quest that was Inazuma?
Anyone who tells you that Inazuma is great is fucking delusional and should be treated like an idiot.
I like how the very first instance of Furina being “not what she seems” so to speak, is her very introduction. In Romaritime Harbor, she rolls in with a posse of guards, and in an attempt to showboat, she challenges the Traveler to a fight then and there. However, the Traveler doesn’t back down and accepts her challenge. Only then does she back off, which doesn’t go unnoticed by the Traveler. And like you said, Soul: Even Venti could wreck someone’s shit if he wanted to. In hindsight, that was the first clue.
My surprise at furinas skill ascension scrolls having the guillotiné on them what a fun detail
This is the first time Genshin has made me actually feel so much that I cried
Furina has to be one of my favorite characters not even just in genshin, but of all time after the archon quest. And that's saying something when Wanderer and Childe exist
Speaking of, there aren't enough people talking about how Childe fought the Narwhale for over a MONTH without his vision in his foul legacy form, which has been shown to drain his energy.
the motherfucker went through hell and back to help save a nation that jailed him for a crime that EVERYONE knew he didn't commit while he was on his fucking vacation. man deserves some fuken respect
I mever realized he fought the whale for a Month straight. 45 days sentence and it felt like a Week
For over like 12 years of me playing games and watching some of those game stories more closely, I've not even had tear drop coming from me, and there's a few moments in games I know that have made a fair share people break down in tears (i.e. Final Lesson and Everlasting Flames in Honkai 3rd, Rukka[REDACTED] erasing herself from Irminsul in Genshin) and not even made me budge at all... Until THIS goddamn Quest in specific, I've watched many people's reactions to it and I can say I've had my fair amount of rewatches of it and oh goodness, it still just hurts to see it, I've never been this close from breaking down in tears with a story, I can confidently say that Furina became my favorite character in Genshin and it's not even close as well as being one of my all time favorite characters in all of gaming, I must say I've had a few headcanons for her hoping they would become canon (most of them stupid now that i look back at it), but instead, we ended with a character so much better it'll be nigh to impossible for me to surpass, and Neuvillette is for me just as much of a GOAT as Furina is for taking so much, he first lost his Melusine friend who saw the good side on humanity, then his human friend who decided to get himself jailed in order to keep Neuvillette as Iudex, then Focalors, the god that took him under her wing, shown him the good in humans AND then restored his Authority only for the price being her taking her own life, and in a way he no longer will have Furina who is finally a free human by his side any time soon, Fontaine as a whole made a three year wait that was slowly chipping away my enjoyment for the game due to burn out so worth it and completely revitalized my love for this game. I must be missing a lot of details, but it's so hard not to love this story we've got.
Can we all collectively give furina a hug
A human given an impossible task to play a God for over 500 years a she didn't slip up once, Furina is such a great character. Focalors outsmarted those stinky hypocrites in the sky perfectly. Natlan has got an insane job to do now though, it was my most hyped region but i don't see how it's topping this.(I also like how Capitano is getting hyped up since he's one of the strongest people in Teyvat right now)
In summary, Genshin writters finally used subtlety in their script.
For now. It was a Mystery
The quest was so good that I'm tearing up to just you talking about how much of a good person Furina is.
i think there are still thing we don't know.
I think there was a double twist. The player is led to believe Furina wasn't the Archon - but she was unknowingly (because of self-deception) actually the Archon. The "beheading" seperated the divinity aspect from the body/spirit part of Furina. The Archon was guilty of impersonating the Archon.
Bro became a furina simp
It's like the theme for Fontaine was mystery so writers had to keep some things low key from players and not hit over our heads by paimon so it's not satisfying twist anymore. And they solved the paimon repeating problem indirectly. I hope they continue to do so in next region as well.
That means this was an Accident and Paimon will be back to Normal next Region. Fantastic😅
furina forgive me for calling you a brat ToT
Please Come by the Fountaine of Lucine. Its where Furina Supporters Handout in game...Im serious. 😅
I dont think I've heard soul so excited about something genshin related, especially story-wise. Goes to show how f*cking amazing it was !
I'm so glad I'm not alone in loving this story. Both Furina and Focalors are heroes. And Furina in particular did something I don't remember any other Genshin character do. You know how everyone adores the Traveler for no apparent reason and gives them anything and everything they want.
She managed to deny the Traveler's request to tell them the truth when they were in the magic box. Then later, when the Traveler watches the scenes from her life, they get a replay of that conversation, and you can see how shocked they are to find out, that even if they had had the time and the box wasn't opened on stage, Furina would still have kept her secret. Because it was the secret safeguarding her people.
Her will is so strong and her heart so pure with intent, she can even resist the ridiculous godlike charm that the writers just gave to the MC. This has been an annoying characteristic of the MC they just informed us as players about, and I'm glad someone basically told the Traveler they're not the most important being to ever exist, and it fills me with joy.
No apparent Reason? Everyone Admires the Traveller for the feats and heroics they've done through the Story. It was literally rubbed in your face at Beidou little Tournament for a trip to Inazuma.
We still are the most Important Being to Exist.
@@silverhawkscape2677 this admiration is way too personal to be explained by their deeds. I'm pretty sure Xiao has seen and done more heroic things over the course of his long life than the Traveler could imagine. Tough people like Kujou Sara become sincere and embarassed talking to the Traveler. My point is, everyone is suddenly heart-eyed near them. Their appeal is dangerously close to that of a harem comedy protagonist. In the Sumeru quest, a fortune-teller that Setaria went to literally said about the Traveler's love life 'wait, this can't be right... that many?!!'
I'm not saying it isn't justified in some way. It's long been clear that the Traveler is a god of sorts. May they are the ultimate creator. Maybe they are a being of pure love. It's just that in the absence of a direct explanation all the doting and pining from people who are exceptional themselves looks too much, and it's a bit annoying.
@@AmoritaStorre Um. Dude. Kujou Sara was embarrassed talking tonthe Traveller. She is only embarrassed when Ei came by while she was singing Praises to the Shogun.
@@silverhawkscape2677have you heard her teapot lines? She apologizes for being too strict and sounds like a schoolgirl in love. They all do. Suddenly everyone becomes a softer, more vulnerable version of themselves talking to the Traveler. How many times have we heard a variation of 'I feel like I can trust you'? Why? I get that this is a fantasy of many people (players I mean) to have this exact effect on others, but that's just not what happens in life. You could argue that Genshin is a game, but when it's not about the Traveler, everyone is pretty normal, i.e. they hide their wounds, they're not in a hurry to admit other people's superiority, etc. They only care to open to the MC. Sure the Traveler can fight, but that's pretty irrelevant. Again, I get that's is a fantasy of 'I'll do amazing things and everyone will love me' for the players, but I've come to expect better then that from Genshin's writing. I really hope they explain this personal magic of the MC.
so happy that fontaine is such a hit. i've loved furina since she was leaked all the way back in sumeru, and everything new we learned about her just increased my love more and more. archon of my heart
Another minor detail I noticed while reading act 5 Archon Quest from beginning to the end that's so lore important to the story.
Is that we know that people who disappeared in the primordial water reverts back into an oceanid and can still harm or save in the primordial water realm of its victims shown in Vascher's death scene.
That lore plotpoint was brought back in Navia's story in the act 5 Archon quest when she fell into the primordial water and got saved by Silver Meluse during the primordial water trial (her closest assistent who protectes her from Vascher who murdered her father) who died in the primordial water flood incident in Poisson and tells Navia to let go of her dead ones and move on as the Spina de rosula president as they quickly bring her back to the mortal realm.
Little minor details like that pays it off so well in the last act from the previous acts and I love it that Fontaine keeps doing this back to back, rather being sidelining these lore relevant events to the wayside unlike previous quest except Sumreu to some extent. Same goes for the prophecy.
Fontaine's story is really that good;)
I honestly never been tied to a game emotionally even cry for a story but Furina is on another level.
Ikr
Justice for Calibert :(
Fontaine Story Quest is so damn good and even through there is a happy ending it’s not all sunshine and rainbows cause there are people who dissolved into water before hand and they didn’t magically come back to life they are gone for good.
The prison arc does feel like filler majority of the time solving mysteries and interacting with various NPCs that could have been skip but I like how the prison is portrayed as a good thing. The people there majority of them are happy and rather stay when their sentence is done then go back up to the surface and be judged for having a criminal record. They can work for coupons (money), have free meals, have a nurse, and can take days off, etc.
The Most effective Prison is one inmates would Prefer to stay in.
What also like is N giving us crumbs of what going on at right time, not during the judgement of furina but few minutes before so that we can sit and think about it and try figure it out ourselves to, 4.x patch is my favorite so far I wonder if we going to learn more about furina past struggle in her second story or possibly about celestia
I usually have genshin story stuff as background noise to draw BUT DAMN MY EYES WERE GLUED TO THE SCREEN
Twas too peak
My favorite part about this quest is how focalors appeared in one scene, was more interesting than like 90% of the cast, and then immediately DIED 💀💀💀
Edit: also another thing that i really like and you pointed out was just how deceptively important indemnitium was to this quest, cuz if you think about it im pretty sure it was talked about at least once in every chapter except chapter three (but we dont talk about that one lmao)
If she lived People would call her boring. 😢
@@silverhawkscape2677 are they wrong tho 🤔🤔
Since you mentioned the scene numbers, it's such a tiny detail, but it just compounds and makes every bit of her suffering more real to me.
It was scene 182 500, or something like that. If you divide the number by 365, the number of days in a year, you get 500. They purposefully numbered the scenes to illustrate Furina's daily life, her daily life for 500 years.
I just completed it and now I clicked your video. This story was amazing!
Something I appreciate so much about Furina is, her acting as Folcalor for 500 years was so much like masking on autism. Specifically female autism. And that itself made me cry finally getting that representation that's been lacking. Furina is my favorite character of all time because of that.
The story was so good that a jaded leak consumer like myself was left battling tears
Wtf
The opera section of Furina was quite amazing, the fact that even in her subconscious she's still playing as an archon scared that her people will get dissolved, only when we turn off the spotlight can she be who she really is, and the fact that there was no one in the Opera, EXCEPT when she was about to say her real feelings to the traveller because they're not from teyvat, which she then refused than the traveller disappeared again, man this quest and the presentation was amazing
I feel like I'm crazy for liking the prison arc lmao. I like how mundane it felt getting "stuck" in that quest. If it wasn't like that it wouldn't feel like being in a prison
Whilst I agree, for some reason a part of me likes Sumeru’s story more. I think the whole Wanderer situation just hit different for me. A character erasing their existence so that even their arch nemesis (Dottore) doesn’t even know he exists is so badass. Wanderer is literally free to plan for as long as he wants with significant knowledge of his enemy and Dottore can do NOTHING about it (unless he personally knows a Descender who has kept him up-to-date somehow, which would be disappointing, because I wanna see Dottore say “who are you!?” as Wanderer obliterates him).
Does it say anywhere that wanderer is currently doing anything about his erasure? Any plans? It seems like after everything he just became Nahida's buddy
I'm worried about that being interlude chapter and not part of major sumeru story, cuz I really want him to tear apart dottore
Very relatable man fontaine has been the best storywise arc in genshin
Best archon quest
Best story quests
Best buildup in the game
Absolute perfection if you ignore thetiny jail portions of randomly helping randos And talking to the two 'gossippers'
It was actually incredible
I'd even say the exploration and quests are the best we've ever had. The cinematics too, they definitely cooked this time.
would you look at that, one of the main elements that made this Archon Quest arguably better than others is that the game focus most of it’s experience telling the story instead of using Paimon as the mouthpiece for every single thing like being emotion announcer, the jokes repeater, plot recapper, solutions provider(still does alot though) etc.
I was waiting to do the story myself before watching this video. It was amazing, they really improved in story telling. i could not even guess the outcome because when furina was afraid of dying by arlechino, i though she was weak for not using the gnosis like venti, i never doubted she wasn't an archon. They improved in characters quests too, the nouvillete story almost made me cry. Furina was great as a character (not enough for pulling for her because gems are limited and i want Navia) but overall incredible quest and final cinematic. The only bad thing, Is that new players have to go trough all the filler of genshin to get to this gem of a story.
Making an entire community collectively hate a character and then making them love her is an insane feat
Beautiful archon quest
Ashikai a Genshin Lore Theorist us celebrating when they predicted right that Fontainians are actually Oceanids but for entirely different reasons. 😅
fun fact, the day of 15k or smth during the scenes inside furinas soul where traveler appears to ask her in the house, those days actually equal 500 years,
1000x Better archon than Raiden.
i NEVER go back to watch genshin's dialogue cutscenes on youtube. i already went through it once and barely cared to pay attention half the time anyways. this update and story quest is the first time i've actually gone back to watch these scenes again, sometimes multiple times, for pleasure. idk if it's just because it's so well written, or that i love furina that much, or most likely both.
I kinda wish that Neuvillete gave a slap to Focalors for giving Furina such an impossible task because:
1. Furina is part of Focalors but Furina is not Focalors
2. I think Neuvillette has a pretty close bond to Furina, which give me the 3rd point
3. I dont care if slapping Focalors is out of Neuvillette's character. I dont care if his momentary emotion outweights his impartial judgement. I think that this proves his character to have been developed by showing his emotion
I think he has shown her pretty clearly that he loved Furina more. But Furina is Focalors, which is the Main reason he was so sad to see her die.
pretty sure waiting for 500 years inside the oatrice just to die should be equally painful if not more, not living the day your citizens is finally safe from the prophecy that will cause an extinction is one of the painful and depressing but honorable deeds u can make
@@DamslettesSIMPwait so she was sitting inside that thing all this time ? I thought she's in another dimension or something
@@IDKbruh420 yes, the room Neuvillette and Focalors in is just inside the mind of Focalors
@@IDKbruh420 I think its both, its a realm similar to what Ei's has build. Her divinity placed inside an object creating a mental realm. With her Physical Body left behind.
Is it just me or whole Fontaine Archon Quest was so heavily inspired by the Bible. The original Sin (From Adam and Eve consumption the Tree of knowledge, where the price of sin is death), Wriothesley gargantuan ship and the rising waters (From Noah's Ark and the Flood), Focalor sending Furina to suffer as a human (God sending Jesus to get crucified) and the All-Devouring Narwhal (Jonah swallowed by a “great fish or could also be inspired by the Leviathan).
It was the best archon quest. What a masterpiece 👏👏 especially when they trick her to come in that house, my jaw dropped lol
I think Furina herself was good. It's details in the quest outside of her arc that I think were kind of a letdown.
Arlecchino really felt like a wasted character given how much the marketing hyped her up.
I know wright
And I really like how the npc are real like when there are NPC who blame her some feel sorry for her some missing her some love her some dissipointed in her ❤ some like me who LOVE HER the 😅
Actually a few things were incorrect in your unscripted talk, but the sentiments are the same. Fontaine Archon quest 1 and 3 were amazing. The payoff was beautiful.
1. Egeria created the humans by appropriating the Primordial sea not Focalors.
2. Furina and Focalor are the same Oceanid, Focalors separated her human part as Furina. This is not like EI and Raiden, but more like Piccolo and Kami. But Kami with no powers.
3. Furina did not commit the original sin.
Furina and Focalors story is pretty similar to shadows amidst snowstorms event. Except neither Furina or Focalors were the fake, their the same person in essence.
Yes, I sympathize with you.
I also agree on how they put this quest together..
The spilt crumbs of story add up to the evwnt without spoon feeding the player..
Its such a nice presentation.
Im more warranted on using my year earned gems into c6ing furina..
My one and only con for the Archon Quest is it's still full of pointless dialogue options (if you can even call them that) for the Travelers. I wish they just give them fully voiced lines like that part near the end where they spoke one of the past dialogue options in sequence (since it was just a sentence broken up into two options anyway).
AQ really made me feel things, like I genuinely can't move on from it for daysss haha! The story quest was good, too, but some of the lines from MC and Paimon, especially when they were asking her to consider and help the theater group something sounded a bit too close to guilt tripping. Like let's say it was weeks or maybe months after the AQ, that still is 500 years of suffering she's trying to recover from, and then you see the 2 talking about "how can we help them, we already said Furina was gonna help" in front of the girl... Like bruh. I still really liked it, it reinforces one Furina's ascension lines with one of the scenes in Poisson, La Vaguelette was such a good song, the NPC's were very nice, too, voice direction was really good. It was just that thing at the start that kinda put me off.
Another lore bit. Because of the indemnitium, we have a physical confirmation of how Archons get more powerful the more they are worshipped by their people. It just turns out that instead of taking all of that power in, Focalors uses it to power everything. wow. mind blown.
i love her character cause she is basically an “absurd hero” coined by albert camus. while she had to play the role of an archon for the whole 500 years she was basically sisyphus in rolling the boulder up the mountain every single day without knowing when it’ll stop and she had to continue day after day. she had to roll up a boulder every single day never reaching the end at the top at the day and had to keep it up for her nation. while do alors is like zeus and the greek gods who cursed sisyphus. how funny that albert camus is also french, albeit french algerian, it’s like mihoyo got inspiration from him to create an absurd hero.
And I really like how the npc are real like there are NPC who blame her some feel sorry for her some missing her some don't care about her since she is not an archon anymore some dissipointed in her ❤ some like me who LOVE HER 😅
Small correction
Focalors didn't create Furina, Furina is the human body that Egeria made for Focalors. All Focalors did was split the divinity from the body.
Also for the jail section, i've seen someone justify it by showing what Furina essentially went through for 500 years. Repetition, doing the same things over and over again getting no closer to solving the big issue
My favourite archon quest is still sumeru. But Fontainee is sooo gooddd. Ur rite, ever since inazuma i believed the fatui harbingers would be the "weekly bosses of the week" kinda formula but thank god this wasnt. Even tho as much as i wanted arlecchino to be more involve, im glad with the route they decided to go with. If sumeru was ur Action Flick adventure movie, Fontainee was a nice Detective Mystery Law n Order movie. Itss so funn
I think I saw somewhere that the prison part of the archon quest was actually an analogy for how imprisoned Furina was during her act as the Hydro Archon
Just as it sometimes takes a man to be the best girl, sometimes it takes a human to be the best archon
My hot take: Fontaine's story is actually pretty mid, especially compared to Sumeru. It takes a lot of trops from the predecesor (divine machine, bullied archon with split personality, male lead character with stoic personality) but flops in many ways. 4.1 story is a good example of that. It is basically just a waste of time and if you remove it and associated characters from the plot, it won't be affected in any way.
I didn’t watch the video cause I’m not caught up on quests, but I saved it to watch it later 😊
As a french, this story have a second reading, the judgement and fall of the archon by his citizen it's the same as the fall of the king during french revolution by remove the power on one person during centuries. The society system in the prison it's based of the french society. And the name of other thing (but not everything, mostly to the name character, they really not french or horribly modified...). It's maybe difficult to not understand this to no french people but the work on this part is massive and imprevisse for a chinese studio....
Watched the whole video, pretty much I agree with it 100% all the way, I dont need to put anything else here, good job
She raised it by not having enough screen time to fuck anything up.
Furina best girl
I hope the Genshin impact anime is good as this
It's in the past so expect Zhongli in his Prime. Mondstad having Slavery and a Rebellion being Crushed.
I think Fontaine arc is like the Marine ford arc of One Piece, it is the Peak arc little flaw on the story, great story line, great pacing, and a great story ending. 8.5/10 rrating for me.
I have one thing to the story: it is absolutely, 100% not realistic. And yet I consider it minor because I absolutely don't mind. There's no way Furina could keep the act up for 500 years, someone would definitely call her out on doing nothing godlike within weeks at most. And even if she somehow managed to suppress any opposition for so long, the breakdowns we got to witness would be also matter of weeks, months at worst. But after 500 years, she'd just have learned all the patterns and could do everything without even thinking about it, the less bothering or feeling any pain.
But as I said, I find it extremely easy to forget about these things because they're not important. Realistic story would be boring and I much enjoyed the rollercoaster we got.
I had many theories throughout the story, I was right at many places and I was wrong elsewhere. For example I did believe Focalors (the Archon) and the Gnosis are in the Oratrice (right) but I also believed the voice in the fountain was Focalors', not Furina's (wrong). I did believe Furina was not a brat and had some major struggle (right) but I also believed she's desperately trying to keep the Oratrice in function (wrong, she cared about trials, not the machine). And I loved how in the end all these things were resolved and seeing things I predicted right was so satisfying.
i really hope natlans even better then fontains story
If one anime character could or two atleast i know could be reference to furina is that of BROOKE for the long loneliness n KUMA for his backstory 😢
Yeah, the Inazuma Archon Quest is still vomit inducing trash to this very day. Ugh... The Monstaldt and Liyue Archon Quests are valuable gems in comparison, the Sumeru Archon Quest being higher than those two.
interesting, maybe i should watch playtrough of that quest.
tbh, i'm speed-running the entire quest with no in-game audio so i can get the primos and roll for furina.
Fontaine best archon quest, best region to explore, best characters no debate--
Act III was boring but if you think about it after seeing Act V, it was foreshadowing Furina. Doing the same shit, day in, day out, over and over, meeting the quota just to do it all over again, asking questions, thinking you made a break, only for it to turn up dry. We got to live a few moments of her 500 years in Act III.
Also as a certified House of Hearth Trio enjoyer I have to respectfully disagree with the "cut out most of the interactions with Lyney" part out of bias lmao
I liked the quest a lot, but until Foçalor died. That was just unfun, because i don't want to see my favorite character die. And since Furina is half Foçalor then it hurted me the same. Just because of her death i rate the quest 4/10.
After starting to pay even more attention to Genshin Impact's lore since Fontaine's release, Act 5 of Fontaine's story was thoroughly satisfying and foreshadowed.
It's sad that I cannot say the same for Star Rail, there's many consistency errors and things revealed in the story that don't naturally line up with the lore in comparison to Genshin, like Pela's age not fitting into the timeline of Belobog at all being a more known one. There's also the fact that I think latter half of the Xianzhou story just wasn't that good, It felt a bit like Inazuma all over again, put in a cool ending so people forget the issues of the overall story. Oh and don't even get me started on Belobog's story, but at least that story is known to have gone through a rewrite
But the saving grace is that the dialogue and characters are well written, It's ratio of characters I'd consider to have good writing is higher than Genshin's, the only characters I consider to be a miss in Star Rail are Blade and Guinaifen, but I only put Guinaifen there because she straight up doesn't have screentime
Also godlike transition at 2:14
Blade is Blade. He's only as Complex as he needs to be and more of the Consequences of Dan Feng previous actions. He doesn't even remember things properly.
Common Furina W
Most of the characters have more depth in general. The main characters(traveler and paimon) act more like characters now, although not really 'main' character in this case. The story is overall well done. While the fortress was filler-ish, I thought it was interesting experience and gameplay overall. The gameplay with the mystery, court system, and whatnot really enhances the engagement with the story by combining it with gameplay. There are also quite a bit more cutscenes than early stories and it looks amazing.
My main gripes are how the court proceedings are handled and some other minor stuff. Some arguments were quire questionable yet no one questioned the relevance, but its relatively minor complaints. There are some other minor issues with how the lore and whatnot is explained. But its a pretty darn good story overall
I think it's for the better you tossed the script, it just sounds so much more authentic this way, I think.
Anyways, I will forever stand that 4.0 story was just alright, 4.1 was really bad, but it was all worth for 4.2, bah, it was worth going through all 5 regions just for this one archon quest. If I'm being honest I do not often cry when playing games, but in all my years of playing Furina is the third time I felt so sad because of a bunch of pixels.
I was almost devastated for a moment there, because I know I would never be able to bear so much pain all by myself, even with somebody to share my troubles it would be nigh impossible, and she didn't even want to open up before the traveler, so that her efforts are not futile. The only other characters I ever felt so much compassion towards were the Hollow Knight and Mio and Noah from Xenoblade Chronicles.
Back to Furina
The scene where she just fell on her t"hrone" with tears in her eyes, that was the moment that broke me, and I think people the fact that this scene is pretty much the prophecy fulfilled for Furina alone. Nobody believed her, so she was alone, surrounded by people judging her, weeping on the "throne" by herself, and since she was found out, she was sure the people of Fontaine will die, because she did not keep them believing her to be the archon. It was just heartbreaking.
The one minor but big thing I’ve noticed hoyo doing is mastering the art of artistic timing. You never realize and appreciate the nuance of how many times they intentionally slow down moments in the story, during certain sequences and what not.
The most importantly and obvious example people may have experience is the fact that the auto play button simply doesn’t work in the story (the story progresses even when the option is off during certain segments), which to some may be a bit baffling, but imo that strange choice elevated the immersion of the story-I’ve watched some reactions to the 4.2 story and THEY DIDNT EVEN NOTICE AUTOPLAY WAS OFF
I remember during 4.1, I told my friends as a joke that Furina was gonna get guillotine exacted cuz french ig. And cuz shes a 'bad' archon (idk why i said that forgive me TvT)
AND HERE I AM NOW, 4.2 AND I WAS CORRECT.
Focalors goal was to destroy one of the celestial thrones. Same as Lumine is trying to do. We don't fully know the extent of those or how important they are, but Lumine says "I have to engulf the thrones of heaven", this sentence is worded many times by many characters. It is somewhat likely that they need the thrones in order to dictate what happens regarding fates. It is also likely now that Fontaine is revealed that Venti did not give Dvalin "Anemo" power he gave him his gnosis or the power of the gnosis so he is now a sovereign as well the ball of light that is seen in that cut scene resembles the ball that Neuvilette is given. Venti's words about Dvalin are VERY Similar to how Focalors talk about Neuvilette. Apep is saved by Nahida and Azdaha is saved by Zhongli, so their is a pattern that Hoyo is trying to hide. The only dragon that is missing is the electro dragon and so far it has not been mentioned at all its like it's taboo to talk about it at all. I highly recommend to look back at the lore in Genshin, it's not trivial everything has a purpose. Ei did not start the vision hunt decree for whatever reason she gave, she lied and that story is not finished by a mile. Most of the archons never tell you straight out why they do things Focalors was an exception to inform Neuvilette.
It's good to see that mihoyo learned what a low quality story inazuma was. But do you think they will repeat in the future?
she also raised the standard for dps
Yeah having Paimon being an actual character again was amazing.
Than erased in Furina story quest as an Ulikeable gremlin
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It was basically gaslighting for 500 years
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