Refreshingly honest and straight forward. It's always great when someone who enjoys what they are doing takes the time to make a video that helps others on their journey.
I served a formal apprenticeship as a toolmaker, 7800 in the state of Connecticut. I got my state papers in 1972 and worked in the firearms, aerospace and medical industry. I was always amazed that when you took your car to the dealership, people would pay the $130.00 per hour and not bat an eye. But if you quote a precision job for 80.00 per hour, they go nuts
Hey Jason... The first minute of this video sums up EXACTLY what will keep manufacturing alive. It's also a common story with a lot of us in manufacturing. Thanks for sharing!
I couldn't agree more. I jumped into the job shop space and the learning curve is steep. I wasn't dependent on the income as I already had a part time job (and still do). I also had run CNC and manual machines having a trade in the metalworking/engineering industry for the last 10 years. You're spot on, everyone wants work done until they hear the cost. When you get some regular customers it gets easier. Word of mouth is your best advertisement. Don't be in a rush, everything takes time.
Jason. This is R Brian Jefferies. Partner this is an great video. Like you and I discussed the other day we both call it like we see it whether we agree or not. Thats what in doing now when I tell ya that the value of this video far exceeds monetary numbers. What you've passed along here gives folks that may have technical knowledge the inspiration and confidence to take that chance, but at the same time it gives the same benefit to those that don't have the technical knowledge but have the drive. That they can learn and be successful no matter their field. Thank you for taking your time to give back in that way!!!
I am just now in the moment to buy a cnc, i've been enjoying your videos and certainly it helped me. I build my products in a factory but I need some flexibility producing small series. Don't have lots of space and only monofase power, so thinking into start with bf30 optimun cnc modifyed or small syil. Hope you have yours and could give me some light soon. Thanks
Hey Jason. Thanks for your arrows out mentality. Your sincerity is refreshing. This video is something I’m going to share with some students I’ve been helping start their own business. They often ask me to get going. Your videos really are great. Anytime you want to visit the factory I’d love to introduce you to our engineers team. Appreciate you.
This is really good stuff. I'm right in this pocket of people you're talking to - have an idea for a product and rather than outsource to a shop, thinking of buying a machine...right in the range of what you have (small HAAS, maybe a Tormach or Syil). Super helpful man, thanks so much
Don't know if this will help or not, but a general rundown of how my boss runs his shop with 3 CNC lathes (2 Mazak 2 axis, 1 Mori Seiki 2 axis). Just the concepts, not so much lathe vs. mill. Don't know how much of this will even apply. (for anyone who may read this) We have 2-3 spares of basically every tool holder we use at all times, a variety of boring bars and boring bar heads etc. He keeps 2-5 packs of spare inserts for every type of tool, plus the current opened pack. Stuff we use every day usually stays stocked up (5 packs), whereas niche application tooling that we don't use often are kept on hand in enough quantity to get through a job or two of parts (2-3 packs). I work in a small job shop, so a customer may request an odd job of 100 "X" parts, which we will have the tooling for in a pinch, and we can get the parts to them in a reasonable amount of time (as opposed to taking the job, and ordering the tooling at the same time). Keep spare set screws and clamps for every tool in your shop at all times, you never know when one is randomly going to snap, get lost, get stripped out, etc. Same goes for hex/torx/etc wrenches (or whatever type you may use) If you use specialized gauges or even just micrometers/calipers, keep spares on hand, shit breaks at the worst possible times. My personal Starrett 12" calipers are fucked right now, and i don't even know how i managed it, i think a gear broke inside, or a shaving found its way in. Gauges get dropped from time to time as well, careful we may be. Keep extra dial indicators/indicator bases, you never know when someone will accidentally clip one with a dead blow hammer. Basically if it's not indestructible or idiot proof, keep a spare. Even if it is indestructible and idiot proof, keep a spare. The universe loves to fuck up a nice day. We use: DNMG 432 inserts for general turning boring and profiling (5 packs on hand, all times) CNMG 432 inserts for really meaty cuts (3-5 packs) VNMG 330/330.5/331/332 for surface finishing and cutting profiles (3-5 packs) VNMG 432 for ID profiles (2-3 packs) TNMG 332 for long parts with some profiling (1-3 packs) A plethora of threading inserts of different types ACME, Stub Acme, 7x45 ANSI BTC, API BTC, VAGT, TP-CQ, 8RD, 10RD, the list goes on. (1-8 packs)
Dave (FT CNC) tells it like it is, that's for sure. I'm enjoying your content lately, with the similar discussions. Keep it up man, the content is great, and you always seem to bring optimism, even back on the old un-boxing videos. I know the audience cant wait to start seeing machine time content too.
hit home depot and grab a piece of 2-3" pvc with 1 solid glue on end cap and 1 threaded cap set, drill a few holes in the threaded endcap, plumb air compressor bleed line into solid glue on endcap, pack it with steel wool, baffling that pressure bleed is easy as pie.
Well done! I agree on so many levels. I’m in between shops this week. In Michigan. Most of Americans do not seem to understand without manufacturing significantly, we are doomed. Economists talk about it endlessly but we’re in deep and I think large scale GDP world wide is in free fall. I’m a general machinist with 2 decades CNC Turn focus. Mostly parts for heavy equipment, aerospace and exotic miscellany. Most of us could also learn from Shingo in moderation. As for me following that, I guess I’d have to buckle down with some mad science that requires some freaky coil geometry & ultrasonics. I think its era has been surpassed by the elites. But that & pedal bikes are my bases. Of course I also have knowledge of Big company inside track on “impossible” machining. Refined a few in collabs myself. Funny my last job had me sign NDA, but the magic hasn’t been taught or documented well. With any of the assorted processes. Product Knowledge is absolutely crucial.
That being said, I’ve been trying to learn THIS flavor in between seeking new work. And dropping past 7 years into archived history. I always focus on a personal reset of theories with new jobs. Most hate new guy changing stuff. The job shop scene around here does not seem abundant or especially successful.
NYCNC started out with a desktop hobby mill making a part that he had an idea for. He kept his full time job and boot strapped up to where he's at. He also tries to help others with the growth process of a machine shop. Wish you luck and keep up the good work.
For sure, NYCNC was then only reason I was comfortable enough to buy a hobby mill. I don' t rely on it to make money, but I love making things on it daily.
I took a intro to engineering class in high school. I liked to design in inventor. The only reason why I am not a engineer. Is because I have a learning disability. Called dyscalculia math dyslexia. I do have a seemecnc rostock max v3.2 printer. Just to make my own items. For me to make a rc part, it takes me twice as long. As a person who does it for a living. Would take to make a part. I still enjoy making parts. I use fusion 360, it works pretty well. Since it's close to inventor, which I learned on.
Your only "disability" is you've been brainwashed into believing that the "education system" that "failed you" isn't the reason you have "problems" doing "math" and that its something "wrong" with you "mentally". Your parents go along with that "diagnosis" because everything that you experienced during "childhood" including an "education" where your supposed "disability" went "unnoticed" and "undiagnosed" for YEARS is all their "fault". "Experts" have convinced you you're a "victim" and your "loved ones" are "OK" with that because it puts them "in the clear". If you can read, you can do "math". If you want to and are willing to go "back to the basics" and don't want to be a "victim" any longer, that is. And if you don't want an "excuse" for not being able to do things you don't "want" to do badly enough to TRY. And if you're willing to give up being "special" and getting the "sympathy" that goes along with being "disabled" every time you mention it to strangers.
The focus on manufacturing a product instead of trying to be a job shop is why this is my favorite CNC/"Maker" type of channel. There is little leverage in doing jobs for others, unless you can get high volume contracts, but then the price will be very low. There is a big difference from a micro-fabricator like this channel is, to a business that very large, and very unmanageable. This guy focuses on what most of us probably want to do and that is manufacture and product, a unique and cool new product in high demand and try to get that "printing money" feeling. I have tried for decades for that in software with little success. But there were many platform and language turmoil issues shortly after 2000. Now things are stabilized, but there is a lot of software out there, like there has always been. It is difficult finding a niche that has not been found. I bet the same will be true for mfg a product. And then there is all the distribution problems, but some of that can be handled by the internet, but the whole physicality of manufacturing, ... it is easy to see yourself getting stuck with 10,000 widgets no one wants. But, with micro-fabricating, it is usually not that extreme in numbers, but it could be for a tiny easy to make part. There are so many mfg techniques, from CNC mills, to lathes, to plastic forming, metal forming, ... I hope this guy someday talks about forming plastics as required by his product. I have not heard him talk about making anything plastic since he moved his mfg shop from China to in house. Maybe his current product does not have any plastic in it. I guess we will never get to see him make a part that he sells like product, as he would be giving away his technique. But I hope to see him make more stuff. That HAAS mill he has is just amazing.
hey any pointers to someone getting a machinist job with no machinist background and just being taught on the job for manufacturing parts and stuff instead of individual things etc. I feel like im put into a job where there are alot of people with alot of experience and im learning on the job and it can be overwhelming because the little things like just measuring in thous and stuff is something im not use to. I have been in the job for about 6 months and I feel like I do my job fine I mock the moves and know alittle from the training I got and stuff but I always have that thought in the back of my head that I do not know exactly what the machine is doing and im just motioning the moves to get the product they want. I got to work with a programmer and It completely blew my mind how much more there is to the machine and I feel like im not doing enough to learn more and understand what goes into CNC. ive been starting to look up videos and stuff but I still feel myself disconnected from understanding more and don't know If I should take a class on my own to do my job better or if there is something else out there like some videos to give me alot more grasp on what im doing. sorry if this insn't the place for this but I just want to learn more and understand more machining so I don't feel like im faking my job I guess haha
Hi Jason. I really enjoy your channel. I'm a small part-time manufacturer of a product I patented. I had a very similar experience with my Tormach 1100 Series 3. So I agree with your comment about how you would use $10K. A question came to mind regarding your comment about how some people might be better off starting with a hobby-level machine. Would you say that, money aside, if your only two options were your Grizzly or the Tormach, was the Tormach a better machine from a production quality (accuracy, ease of use, etc.) point of view? Thanks for sharing. - Rick
Hi Jason. I really enjoy your channel. I'm a small part-time manufacturer of a product I patented. I had a very similar experience with my Tormach 1100 Series 3. So I agree with your comment about how you would use $10K. A question came to mind regarding your comment about how some people might be better off starting with a hobby-level machine. Would you say that, money aside, if your only two options were your Grizzly or the Tormach, was the Tormach a better machine from a production quality (accuracy, ease of use, etc.) point of view? Thanks for sharing. - Rick
Hi Rick, 10k is s pretty tight budget....its hard to say......the grizzly mills are limted by spindle speed and if you are making say , aluminum parts that can be +-.005 all day then the tormach is probably a better solution.....although you will have to learn to work on it sooner than later to keep the machine anywhere close to spec. the nice part about a grizzly is the expecation of you having to work on it is set from day one since you will be the one converting it to cnc. Hope this helps, Jason
Thanks for sharing! I'm just now discovering the world of manufacturing and I LOVE it! I like the idea of finding a narrow focus with work you enjoy to build a sustainable operation... I'm going to begin sharing more of my learning and I appreciate your transparency!
You're right about competing with a job shop... You might've had a better chance 40 years ago when shops were still just getting into CNC technology, but nowadays in that aspect, you're going against companies with state-of-the-art 5 axis machining centers and 7 axis machining/turning centers that can turn maybe a $10-$20 aluminum blank into a $300 - $500 per-part profit in about 30 minutes total time! Also, most of those kind of places are going to be located offshore where the labor is nonunion and costs are super cheap... Forget about it!
Yeah, there are some real juggernaut machine shops out there. They wont even bid a 2 or 10 piece order. They HAVE to land those 1, 10, 100 thousand piece orders to pay for that building and the 50 million dollars of equipment in it. There is still some good money to be earned with a job shop, but believe you are going to work hard for every. Single. Penny. If you have the network and ability to pitch a product or service, you can make money even with smaller chineese machines in a one car garage. A VMC can make alot more money, but with higher asociated costs. By the time you get to those kinds of purchaces, you have to commit and go "all in". Its no longer a hobby or side job.
"Where there is a will there is a way" coach Bombay says that. Anyway, I'm enjoying the business tips. I am a former banker now manual machinist and machine builder with experience in automation, robotics, tool and die, and custom job shop machining and I'm looking to start a 3d printing business. -Albert from Chicago
Their is enough to go around you just need that one thing that will set you apart from the rest in your area, like you said find that niche set of parts and become the go to guy for those parts. Never think you can do every single part presented, learn when to pass on a job.
Congratulation Nerdly, you found your RUclips CNC niche : market, business, common sense approach to this field ! A very welcome offer you bring to us ; so I subscribe !
As an ACTUAL "service industry" professional - a diesel mechanic - I can tell you that "value" is determined at the point of "sale" when goods and/or services are exchanged for "money". Your lottery number example is...interesting, to say the least. It "assumes" that somebody with "$50 million" to "burn" is going to do so for the "opportunity" to "win" $1 billion. The "problem" (one of several but this "veteran" of the "service industry" thought of first) is that your "example" also "assumes" or maybe "implies" that you - as the "consultant" in that scenario "advising" someone to make a "purchase" even though you're also the "salesman" and the "owner" of the "product" willing to "trade" it for "money" - are ONLY selling that "product" to ONE "CUSTOMER". When in fact you could be selling it to as many people as you possibly can and "making" far more than "$1 billion" doing so. All you need to do is sell that list of numbers "valued" at "$50 million" to 20 other people to "break even" and if your "product" is "guaranteed" to be a "winner" AND you have the "access" to enough "potential buyers" who BELIEVE YOUR SALES PITCH AS A "CONSULTANT" BUT AREN'T AWARE YOU'RE THE "OWNER" OF THE "PRODUCT", how hard is it to sell a "$1 billion" list of lottery numbers for "$50 million"? Well, "up front" it's "easy" to SELL that "product" but since "$1 billion" split at LEAST 20 ways is no longer a $1 billion "value" PER "CUSTOMER" and "after taxes" they're going to "lose money", its "impossible" to sell 20 people a "$1 billion" list of lottery numbers for "$50 million" each and once they have "trusted" you, taken the "action" you first "advised" or at least made "possible" by selling them that list and "assuming" even TWO of them "take action" and actually "play the lottery", they're not going to "value" that $50 million spent and what it "bought" them the same way, are they? And you seem to be using an example more related to how "potential customers" for a "major purchase" like a "machine tool" somehow are "responsible" for the "value" of that "machine tool" AFTER PURCHASE and the implication is that it would be better to spend "$50 million" to buy the "opportunity" to "cash in" to the tune of $1 billion in "income" to come "down the road" and "if they take action" than to hold on to their "$50 million", not "play the lottery" and not take a "consultant's" word - which is pure "opinion" unless he/she has "inside information" - that a "$50 million" purchase some would call an "investment" - is really and truly "$1 billion" there for the taking "tomorrow" IF they "play the lottery" TODAY buying a "$50 million lottery ticket" TODAY and "play the lottery" AGAIN "TOMORROW" PUTTING THOSE NUMBERS ON AN ACTUAL "TICKET" AND OF COURSE A TICKET THEY'LL SPEND MORE TIME AND MONEY ACTUALLY "BUYING" AT THE "CONVENIENCE STORE". And the actual "value" of the "prize" in the "lottery" is "unknown" and "unknowable" the "day before" the actual "drawing". So the "$1 billion" is an "old" number presumably "lower" than the actual "prize" when the "drawing" takes place and you're "selling" THAT as well. Even though WITHOUT "selling" that same list of numbers to the "customer" for "$50 million" you STILL can't "guarantee" they'll get even $1 billion. Somebody else could independently "choose the winning numbers" and of course as "jackpots" go UP so do TICKET PURCHASES and the "odds" of "multiple winners" increase as well in a situation where there is a FINITE NUMBER OF POSSIBLE "WINNING" NUMBER "SEQUENCES" AND WHERE "CLOSE" ALSO "COUNTS" IN SOME "LOTTERIES" WHERE IN ORDER TO "REDUCE" THE "PAYOUT" TO THE "WINNERS" AND "COVER" THE "PERCENTAGE" THAT GOES TO ????? THERE ARE "PAYOUTS" FOR TICKETS THAT GET X OUT OF Y OF THE NUMBERS RIGHT AS WELL. So as a supposed "businessman" in the "business" of owning/operating a "machine shop", what relevance does your "example" and the situation it seems to be "referencing" have to do with your "job" as a "machinist" when the "example" is one of a "consultant" selling a "product" to a "customer" as an "opportunity" to "cash in"? Are you a "consultant" as well as a "machinist"? And is "consultant" just "code" for a "salesman" for the "products" you "promote" in your "review" videos? Maybe you're not "aware" of this but typically a "consultant" is paid by those he/she "consults" WITH "advice" on what or what not to "purchase" or "invest in". Although typically THOSE "professionals" refer to themselves as "advisors" if and when they are "objective" and "unbiased" and not "selling" anything. "Consultants" DO work for "manufacturers" or "suppliers" but typically offer their "consultations" for "free" and "openly" and "obviously" are working FOR a "supplier" that also sells "direct" and/or through other "dealers" or "distributors" so a single "consultant" representing a single "supplier" doesn't have a "monopoly" on "access" to a particular "product". Its usually very obvious who the "consultant" providing his/her "services" for "free" is ACTUALLY "working for" because its not THEIR "product" they're "recommending" and obviously with no "sale" they're not getting paid "commission". The other "consultants" work for a "manufacturer" and generally are known as or are referred to as "sales reps" and again, they're not the "sole source" for a "product", its very obvious they work for a "manufacturer" for various reasons and they're not SELLING their "services" to the "customer" by simply "consulting" with them. So, why the "example" and what "hat" do you wear in addition to "machinist" or possibly "in lieu of" machinist? Your "machine shop" and "tools" are way too "clean" to be or have been "used" much, you seem to prefer to "invest" in the "products" of OTHER "machine shops" when you "purchase" tools like the Pierson "pallet system" and apparently since as you said in THAT "consultation" your "priority" is "making parts" and not "saving money", MONEY IS NO OBJECT AT THE PRESENT TIME IN YOUR "MACHINE SHOP" AND YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE "SPARE TIME" TO GO WITH IT GIVEN THE TIME AND "MONEY" YOU PUT INTO YOUR "CONSULTATION" VIDEOS SINCE "BUSINESS" APPARENTLY GOES "ON HOLD" WHILE YOU'RE WAITING FOR SOMETHING ORDERED TO BE DELIVERED AND YOUR "BUSINESS" WAITS LONGER WHILE YOU "UNBOX" AND/OR "REVIEW" IT AND "MAKING PARTS" CAN AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL THOSE "IMPORTANT" TASKS ARE "DOCUMENTED" FOR UPLOAD TO THE INTERNET. I've seen "comments" on some of your unboxing/review videos asking just what you "make" and they seem to go unanswered. That seems like a "fair" question and one I'd certainly expect to get as a "tradesman" and "self-employed businessman" if I were making "educational" videos and uploading them to the internet and they contained lots of "content" relative to my profession/business but none of me actually "doing my job" demonstrating that I am in fact a diesel mechanic and a "professional" by "documenting" me doing actual "work" for actual "customers" on enough different machines and/or in enough different "real-world" situations outside of a "shop" (that I don't even have since I'm "semi-retired" and work "on-site" for "customers" in/at their "shop" or "field" etc) and with tools obviously "used" and "familiar" enough to me while not being "featured" that it would be "obvious" that I'm not only not a "consultant" but also not a "salesman" or in the "business" of creating online "content" for "financial gain" at ALL since my "content" would have to be just me with my "old" tools in somebody else's "shop" or "field" working on "old" equipment and all I'd be "selling" is "documentation" of my "experience" that people could take or leave as "educational". And the 500+ RUclips videos I've made and uploaded over two different "stints" with a channel with actual content and having "deleted" the first channel with 450 or so of them after getting "sick" of all the "experts" in RUclips videos "selling" products and "advice" and complete BULLSHIT "facts" to "noobs" and "rookies" to all kinds of "industries" and "hobbies" and in particular being a "gun guy" and having made almost ALL "gun videos" with my only "diesel mechanic" videos being my own "projects" and the majority of them my own truck doing my own engine overhaul and the other one or two "at work" on John Deere tractors doing and saying nothing to "sell" John Deere anything and having NEVER "MONETIZED" MY "HOBBY" OF MAKING RUclips VIDEOS CHALLENGING THE "EXPERTS" AND "CONVENTIONAL WISDOM" WHILE TELLING PEOPLE I'M NOT AN "EXPERT" MYSELF BUT JUST SOMEONE WITH "REAL-WORLD" EXPERIENCE FOR SEVERAL DECADES WITH MY OWN GUNS AND MY OWN GEAR AND NOT "SELLING" ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY AND "BUYING" EVERYTHING SEEN IN MY VIDEOS NEW AND USED FOR "CASH" AND HAVING IT ALL "PAID FOR", I'VE NEVER TRIED TO BE AND BETTER YET HAVE NEVER WORRIED ABOUT "SELLING" SOMEONE SOMETHING HE/SHE "TRUSTED" ME TO BE "FAIR" AND "OBJECTIVE" AND "UNBIASED" AND AN "UNPAID" AND OTHERWISE "UNCOMPENSATED" SPEAKER FOR MY OWN OPINIONS, BELIEFS, PROCESSES AND "HOW-TO" TIPS AND TRICKS. I don't want and couldn't live with the "responsibility" and/or "guilt" for being an "undercover" salesman for "goods" and/or "services" prominently featured in my "unboxing"or "review" videos and "sold" using people's "good nature" and "good faith" that a "professional" would be the "real deal" and an actual "businessperson" ONLY in the "business" of his/her "profession" rather than a "part-time" or "fake" professional in that "industry" and a full-time "salesman" for whatever company/manufacturer/supplier will "compensate" him/her for "selling" their goods and/or services in RUclips or Patreon "infomercials". Or any other "video sharing" websites that might carry "similar" content.
That was the longest answer i ever read. And i agree on many of your points. Man am I tired of false hopes. The one thing Nerdly said I agree with is to not fantasize and don't take a knife to a gun fight. In the real world this is hard. Lots of work. Sacrifice. Frustration and Depression. Rarely ever a good time. Mostly confusing. And profit seams almost like a lottery ticket. My full time job is supporting me. Not the machines I try to run. Lets hope that changes. More people will take your money than give it to help. More people giving advice they should not. And the real answers to my questions can only be found the hard way, learning from doing. If i get my business off the ground. I am going to be the first to say it like it is. And show the truth. It's a struggle. Most fail and quit. Some make it further. Very few make it all the way. Good luck Matt
I really like the saying "If there`s a will, there`s a way" I only use hobby machines to mass produce our products, and only using a freestyle CAM programming.
The problem with making parts or manufacturing is that there will always be a competition if the part is not unique. And even though it is unique there is still a greater chance of someone copying it, and slashing the price in half and making the market suck. Sounds familliar? Yes what I am talking about is cheap parts that come from China. I am in the 3D Printing Service Provider business and my greatest competitor are China made products. I am thinking now of making my own unique products, since I have knowledge in CAD and 3D Printing. If only they can make Metal 3D Printing Machines a bit more affordable.
Nerdly thanks for the reply! By the way, I just binge-watched all your videos... What are you manufacturing? All you show is machining a big metal disk, what is it for?
Nerdly also, youtube served me your channel after I’ve binge watched this new channel: ruclips.net/video/lPMg0dk1hFI/видео.html I bet you will enjoy it as well 👍
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It ok. The less anyone knows the better. .but Google how usa has copy rights for usa but China Japan tiwan dont???? Where I'm going is most parts made not have copy right laws and can steel them.....and use better metal but u in competition with tiwan and China korria ect..Mexico
I can't believe how on point this video is! You're literally talking directly to me right now! a) I have a product I'm preparing to launch, b) I have no history in manufacturing but have spent the last several years learning cnc, c) I'm sorry I didn't get into this years earlier and LOVE being able to make product thoughts a reality, d) I've been learning on a hobby mill and planned to product launch with a newer one (vs maker space one now), e) I priced out getting a CM to make my parts and found that impractical for a start-up. I was up until 3:30AM going over your other videos and in one video you've changed my entire business plan and I'd love to be able to ping on you for occasional start-up advice.
I am in the same boat so to speak. $20K for the next round of iterations of my new product.....so I bought the machine. I don't want to subscriber poach, but I did launch a channel based on this exact situation. I am just just getting my machined in my garage. It's crazy how this space is full of people like us, tying to break out a new product, but are up against that development cost wall.
Not exactly. I prototype myself and here I was looking for 1000 of my 6-part assemblies. You could fit 4 of the 6 parts in a lipstick tube at one time so now I’m looking for an entry level machine with high rpms - for small tools - and accuracy. Looks like those assemblies are now MY responsibility.
Refreshingly honest and straight forward. It's always great when someone who enjoys what they are doing takes the time to make a video that helps others on their journey.
I served a formal apprenticeship as a toolmaker, 7800 in the state of Connecticut. I got my state papers in 1972 and worked in the firearms, aerospace and medical industry. I was always amazed that when you took your car to the dealership, people would pay the $130.00 per hour and not bat an eye. But if you quote a precision job for 80.00 per hour, they go nuts
Worked in this trade 35 years and would not recommend it to anyone. You can make more money in other trades and always get side work.
@@dannyoktim9628 What sort of trades would you recommend?
Hey Jason... The first minute of this video sums up EXACTLY what will keep manufacturing alive. It's also a common story with a lot of us in manufacturing. Thanks for sharing!
I couldn't agree more.
I jumped into the job shop space and the learning curve is steep.
I wasn't dependent on the income as I already had a part time job (and still do). I also had run CNC and manual machines having a trade in the metalworking/engineering industry for the last 10 years.
You're spot on, everyone wants work done until they hear the cost.
When you get some regular customers it gets easier.
Word of mouth is your best advertisement.
Don't be in a rush, everything takes time.
Jason. This is R Brian Jefferies. Partner this is an great video. Like you and I discussed the other day we both call it like we see it whether we agree or not. Thats what in doing now when I tell ya that the value of this video far exceeds monetary numbers. What you've passed along here gives folks that may have technical knowledge the inspiration and confidence to take that chance, but at the same time it gives the same benefit to those that don't have the technical knowledge but have the drive. That they can learn and be successful no matter their field.
Thank you for taking your time to give back in that way!!!
I am just now in the moment to buy a cnc, i've been enjoying your videos and certainly it helped me. I build my products in a factory but I need some flexibility producing small series. Don't have lots of space and only monofase power, so thinking into start with bf30 optimun cnc modifyed or small syil. Hope you have yours and could give me some light soon. Thanks
Hey Jason. Thanks for your arrows out mentality. Your sincerity is refreshing. This video is something I’m going to share with some students I’ve been helping start their own business. They often ask me to get going. Your videos really are great. Anytime you want to visit the factory I’d love to introduce you to our engineers team. Appreciate you.
This is really good stuff. I'm right in this pocket of people you're talking to - have an idea for a product and rather than outsource to a shop, thinking of buying a machine...right in the range of what you have (small HAAS, maybe a Tormach or Syil). Super helpful man, thanks so much
Don't know if this will help or not, but a general rundown of how my boss runs his shop with 3 CNC lathes (2 Mazak 2 axis, 1 Mori Seiki 2 axis). Just the concepts, not so much lathe vs. mill. Don't know how much of this will even apply. (for anyone who may read this)
We have 2-3 spares of basically every tool holder we use at all times, a variety of boring bars and boring bar heads etc. He keeps 2-5 packs of spare inserts for every type of tool, plus the current opened pack. Stuff we use every day usually stays stocked up (5 packs), whereas niche application tooling that we don't use often are kept on hand in enough quantity to get through a job or two of parts (2-3 packs). I work in a small job shop, so a customer may request an odd job of 100 "X" parts, which we will have the tooling for in a pinch, and we can get the parts to them in a reasonable amount of time (as opposed to taking the job, and ordering the tooling at the same time).
Keep spare set screws and clamps for every tool in your shop at all times, you never know when one is randomly going to snap, get lost, get stripped out, etc. Same goes for hex/torx/etc wrenches (or whatever type you may use)
If you use specialized gauges or even just micrometers/calipers, keep spares on hand, shit breaks at the worst possible times. My personal Starrett 12" calipers are fucked right now, and i don't even know how i managed it, i think a gear broke inside, or a shaving found its way in. Gauges get dropped from time to time as well, careful we may be. Keep extra dial indicators/indicator bases, you never know when someone will accidentally clip one with a dead blow hammer.
Basically if it's not indestructible or idiot proof, keep a spare. Even if it is indestructible and idiot proof, keep a spare. The universe loves to fuck up a nice day.
We use:
DNMG 432 inserts for general turning boring and profiling (5 packs on hand, all times)
CNMG 432 inserts for really meaty cuts (3-5 packs)
VNMG 330/330.5/331/332 for surface finishing and cutting profiles (3-5 packs)
VNMG 432 for ID profiles (2-3 packs)
TNMG 332 for long parts with some profiling (1-3 packs)
A plethora of threading inserts of different types ACME, Stub Acme, 7x45 ANSI BTC, API BTC, VAGT, TP-CQ, 8RD, 10RD, the list goes on. (1-8 packs)
awesome. this is very useful info for someone new to machining.
Hey Jason. You've provided some really good advice in your video. Hey, you're pumping out the videos lately. Don't think I can keep up lol ;-)
I don't always hit the bell, but when I do, it's for Nerdly!
Dave (FT CNC) tells it like it is, that's for sure. I'm enjoying your content lately, with the similar discussions. Keep it up man, the content is great, and you always seem to bring optimism, even back on the old un-boxing videos. I know the audience cant wait to start seeing machine time content too.
Awesome video, mate. Couldn't agree more.
i'm glad someone is being honest for once about the limits of "hobby mills".
hit home depot and grab a piece of 2-3" pvc with 1 solid glue on end cap and 1 threaded cap set, drill a few holes in the threaded endcap, plumb air compressor bleed line into solid glue on endcap, pack it with steel wool, baffling that pressure bleed is easy as pie.
Thanks for the very thought provoking reality check.
Well done! I agree on so many levels. I’m in between shops this week. In Michigan. Most of Americans do not seem to understand without manufacturing significantly, we are doomed. Economists talk about it endlessly but we’re in deep and I think large scale GDP world wide is in free fall. I’m a general machinist with 2 decades CNC Turn focus. Mostly parts for heavy equipment, aerospace and exotic miscellany. Most of us could also learn from Shingo in moderation. As for me following that, I guess I’d have to buckle down with some mad science that requires some freaky coil geometry & ultrasonics. I think its era has been surpassed by the elites. But that & pedal bikes are my bases. Of course I also have knowledge of Big company inside track on “impossible” machining. Refined a few in collabs myself. Funny my last job had me sign NDA, but the magic hasn’t been taught or documented well. With any of the assorted processes. Product Knowledge is absolutely crucial.
That being said, I’ve been trying to learn THIS flavor in between seeking new work. And dropping past 7 years into archived history. I always focus on a personal reset of theories with new jobs. Most hate new guy changing stuff. The job shop scene around here does not seem abundant or especially successful.
Thank you for the business discussions, this is what I was looking for.
NYCNC started out with a desktop hobby mill making a part that he had an idea for. He kept his full time job and boot strapped up to where he's at. He also tries to help others with the growth process of a machine shop. Wish you luck and keep up the good work.
For sure, NYCNC was then only reason I was comfortable enough to buy a hobby mill. I don' t rely on it to make money, but I love making things on it daily.
I really appreciate all the videos. 👊
All good info. I'm glad you have the auto drain on your air supply. I give the same look when mine goes off and I'm in the middle of saying something.
My dryer scares EVERYONE who comes by the shop haha PSHHHHHHHFFFT lol
I took a intro to engineering class in high school. I liked to design in inventor. The only reason why I am not a engineer. Is because I have a learning disability. Called dyscalculia math dyslexia. I do have a seemecnc rostock max v3.2 printer. Just to make my own items. For me to make a rc part, it takes me twice as long. As a person who does it for a living. Would take to make a part. I still enjoy making parts. I use fusion 360, it works pretty well. Since it's close to inventor, which I learned on.
Your only "disability" is you've been brainwashed into believing that the "education system" that "failed you" isn't the reason you have "problems" doing "math" and that its something "wrong" with you "mentally". Your parents go along with that "diagnosis" because everything that you experienced during "childhood" including an "education" where your supposed "disability" went "unnoticed" and "undiagnosed" for YEARS is all their "fault". "Experts" have convinced you you're a "victim" and your "loved ones" are "OK" with that because it puts them "in the clear". If you can read, you can do "math". If you want to and are willing to go "back to the basics" and don't want to be a "victim" any longer, that is. And if you don't want an "excuse" for not being able to do things you don't "want" to do badly enough to TRY. And if you're willing to give up being "special" and getting the "sympathy" that goes along with being "disabled" every time you mention it to strangers.
You lost me at the fork..... #ADD
In your opinion, can you do it part time and grow into a business?
Always good info. What kind of products are you making?
The focus on manufacturing a product instead of trying to be a job shop is why this is my favorite CNC/"Maker" type of channel. There is little leverage in doing jobs for others, unless you can get high volume contracts, but then the price will be very low. There is a big difference from a micro-fabricator like this channel is, to a business that very large, and very unmanageable. This guy focuses on what most of us probably want to do and that is manufacture and product, a unique and cool new product in high demand and try to get that "printing money" feeling. I have tried for decades for that in software with little success. But there were many platform and language turmoil issues shortly after 2000. Now things are stabilized, but there is a lot of software out there, like there has always been. It is difficult finding a niche that has not been found. I bet the same will be true for mfg a product. And then there is all the distribution problems, but some of that can be handled by the internet, but the whole physicality of manufacturing, ... it is easy to see yourself getting stuck with 10,000 widgets no one wants. But, with micro-fabricating, it is usually not that extreme in numbers, but it could be for a tiny easy to make part. There are so many mfg techniques, from CNC mills, to lathes, to plastic forming, metal forming, ... I hope this guy someday talks about forming plastics as required by his product. I have not heard him talk about making anything plastic since he moved his mfg shop from China to in house. Maybe his current product does not have any plastic in it. I guess we will never get to see him make a part that he sells like product, as he would be giving away his technique. But I hope to see him make more stuff. That HAAS mill he has is just amazing.
hey any pointers to someone getting a machinist job with no machinist background and just being taught on the job for manufacturing parts and stuff instead of individual things etc. I feel like im put into a job where there are alot of people with alot of experience and im learning on the job and it can be overwhelming because the little things like just measuring in thous and stuff is something im not use to. I have been in the job for about 6 months and I feel like I do my job fine I mock the moves and know alittle from the training I got and stuff but I always have that thought in the back of my head that I do not know exactly what the machine is doing and im just motioning the moves to get the product they want. I got to work with a programmer and It completely blew my mind how much more there is to the machine and I feel like im not doing enough to learn more and understand what goes into CNC. ive been starting to look up videos and stuff but I still feel myself disconnected from understanding more and don't know If I should take a class on my own to do my job better or if there is something else out there like some videos to give me alot more grasp on what im doing. sorry if this insn't the place for this but I just want to learn more and understand more machining so I don't feel like im faking my job I guess haha
Hi Jason. I really enjoy your channel. I'm a small part-time manufacturer of a product I patented. I had a very similar experience
with my Tormach 1100 Series 3. So I agree with your comment about how you would use $10K. A question came to mind regarding your comment about how some people might be better off starting with a hobby-level machine. Would you say that, money aside, if your only two options were your Grizzly or the Tormach, was the Tormach a better machine from a production quality (accuracy, ease of use, etc.) point of view? Thanks for sharing. - Rick
Hi Jason. I really enjoy your channel. I'm a small part-time manufacturer of a product I patented. I had a very similar experience
with my Tormach 1100 Series 3. So I agree with your comment about how you would use $10K. A question came to mind regarding your comment about how some people might be better off starting with a hobby-level machine. Would you say that, money aside, if your only two options were your Grizzly or the Tormach, was the Tormach a better machine from a production quality (accuracy, ease of use, etc.) point of view? Thanks for sharing. - Rick
Hi Rick, 10k is s pretty tight budget....its hard to say......the grizzly mills are limted by spindle speed and if you are making say , aluminum parts that can be +-.005 all day then the tormach is probably a better solution.....although you will have to learn to work on it sooner than later to keep the machine anywhere close to spec.
the nice part about a grizzly is the expecation of you having to work on it is set from day one since you will be the one converting it to cnc.
Hope this helps,
Jason
Is there a webcite to bid on cnc jobs? Thanks
Thanks for sharing! I'm just now discovering the world of manufacturing and I LOVE it! I like the idea of finding a narrow focus with work you enjoy to build a sustainable operation... I'm going to begin sharing more of my learning and I appreciate your transparency!
I can't find a niche to get into
You're right about competing with a job shop... You might've had a better chance 40 years ago when shops were still just getting into CNC technology, but nowadays in that aspect, you're going against companies with state-of-the-art 5 axis machining centers and 7 axis machining/turning centers that can turn maybe a $10-$20 aluminum blank into a $300 - $500 per-part profit in about 30 minutes total time! Also, most of those kind of places are going to be located offshore where the labor is nonunion and costs are super cheap... Forget about it!
Great Information!
Yeah, there are some real juggernaut machine shops out there. They wont even bid a 2 or 10 piece order. They HAVE to land those 1, 10, 100 thousand piece orders to pay for that building and the 50 million dollars of equipment in it.
There is still some good money to be earned with a job shop, but believe you are going to work hard for every. Single. Penny.
If you have the network and ability to pitch a product or service, you can make money even with smaller chineese machines in a one car garage.
A VMC can make alot more money, but with higher asociated costs. By the time you get to those kinds of purchaces, you have to commit and go "all in". Its no longer a hobby or side job.
thanks for the insight, im on the 2nd viewing.
"Where there is a will there is a way" coach Bombay says that. Anyway, I'm enjoying the business tips. I am a former banker now manual machinist and machine builder with experience in automation, robotics, tool and die, and custom job shop machining and I'm looking to start a 3d printing business.
-Albert from Chicago
God Bless Albert!
Are you were you can 3 d print or machine now.
Really helpful. Thanks very much.
Hi, what CAM software do you like? Do you know anyone using Gibbscam?
and be prepared to put in alot of hours on startups, mechanic cost, coolants, being in complience, do you have access to CMM on an on
How much does it cost to house a machine like this
I’m new to this graduated from Machine Shop in college. From Manual lathes to mills and CNC
Their is enough to go around you just need that one thing that will set you apart from the rest in your area, like you said find that niche set of parts and become the go to guy for those parts. Never think you can do every single part presented, learn when to pass on a job.
Great video!! Thank you!! :)
Congratulation Nerdly, you found your RUclips CNC niche : market, business, common sense approach to this field ! A very welcome offer you bring to us ; so I subscribe !
10 years an I wanna start my own business
As an ACTUAL "service industry" professional - a diesel mechanic - I can tell you that "value" is determined at the point of "sale" when goods and/or services are exchanged for "money". Your lottery number example is...interesting, to say the least. It "assumes" that somebody with "$50 million" to "burn" is going to do so for the "opportunity" to "win" $1 billion. The "problem" (one of several but this "veteran" of the "service industry" thought of first) is that your "example" also "assumes" or maybe "implies" that you - as the "consultant" in that scenario "advising" someone to make a "purchase" even though you're also the "salesman" and the "owner" of the "product" willing to "trade" it for "money" - are ONLY selling that "product" to ONE "CUSTOMER". When in fact you could be selling it to as many people as you possibly can and "making" far more than "$1 billion" doing so. All you need to do is sell that list of numbers "valued" at "$50 million" to 20 other people to "break even" and if your "product" is "guaranteed" to be a "winner" AND you have the "access" to enough "potential buyers" who BELIEVE YOUR SALES PITCH AS A "CONSULTANT" BUT AREN'T AWARE YOU'RE THE "OWNER" OF THE "PRODUCT", how hard is it to sell a "$1 billion" list of lottery numbers for "$50 million"?
Well, "up front" it's "easy" to SELL that "product" but since "$1 billion" split at LEAST 20 ways is no longer a $1 billion "value" PER "CUSTOMER" and "after taxes" they're going to "lose money", its "impossible" to sell 20 people a "$1 billion" list of lottery numbers for "$50 million" each and once they have "trusted" you, taken the "action" you first "advised" or at least made "possible" by selling them that list and "assuming" even TWO of them "take action" and actually "play the lottery", they're not going to "value" that $50 million spent and what it "bought" them the same way, are they?
And you seem to be using an example more related to how "potential customers" for a "major purchase" like a "machine tool" somehow are "responsible" for the "value" of that "machine tool" AFTER PURCHASE and the implication is that it would be better to spend "$50 million" to buy the "opportunity" to "cash in" to the tune of $1 billion in "income" to come "down the road" and "if they take action" than to hold on to their "$50 million", not "play the lottery" and not take a "consultant's" word - which is pure "opinion" unless he/she has "inside information" - that a "$50 million" purchase some would call an "investment" - is really and truly "$1 billion" there for the taking "tomorrow" IF they "play the lottery" TODAY buying a "$50 million lottery ticket" TODAY and "play the lottery" AGAIN "TOMORROW" PUTTING THOSE NUMBERS ON AN ACTUAL "TICKET" AND OF COURSE A TICKET THEY'LL SPEND MORE TIME AND MONEY ACTUALLY "BUYING" AT THE "CONVENIENCE STORE".
And the actual "value" of the "prize" in the "lottery" is "unknown" and "unknowable" the "day before" the actual "drawing". So the "$1 billion" is an "old" number presumably "lower" than the actual "prize" when the "drawing" takes place and you're "selling" THAT as well. Even though WITHOUT "selling" that same list of numbers to the "customer" for "$50 million" you STILL can't "guarantee" they'll get even $1 billion. Somebody else could independently "choose the winning numbers" and of course as "jackpots" go UP so do TICKET PURCHASES and the "odds" of "multiple winners" increase as well in a situation where there is a FINITE NUMBER OF POSSIBLE "WINNING" NUMBER "SEQUENCES" AND WHERE "CLOSE" ALSO "COUNTS" IN SOME "LOTTERIES" WHERE IN ORDER TO "REDUCE" THE "PAYOUT" TO THE "WINNERS" AND "COVER" THE "PERCENTAGE" THAT GOES TO ????? THERE ARE "PAYOUTS" FOR TICKETS THAT GET X OUT OF Y OF THE NUMBERS RIGHT AS WELL.
So as a supposed "businessman" in the "business" of owning/operating a "machine shop", what relevance does your "example" and the situation it seems to be "referencing" have to do with your "job" as a "machinist" when the "example" is one of a "consultant" selling a "product" to a "customer" as an "opportunity" to "cash in"? Are you a "consultant" as well as a "machinist"? And is "consultant" just "code" for a "salesman" for the "products" you "promote" in your "review" videos? Maybe you're not "aware" of this but typically a "consultant" is paid by those he/she "consults" WITH "advice" on what or what not to "purchase" or "invest in". Although typically THOSE "professionals" refer to themselves as "advisors" if and when they are "objective" and "unbiased" and not "selling" anything. "Consultants" DO work for "manufacturers" or "suppliers" but typically offer their "consultations" for "free" and "openly" and "obviously" are working FOR a "supplier" that also sells "direct" and/or through other "dealers" or "distributors" so a single "consultant" representing a single "supplier" doesn't have a "monopoly" on "access" to a particular "product". Its usually very obvious who the "consultant" providing his/her "services" for "free" is ACTUALLY "working for" because its not THEIR "product" they're "recommending" and obviously with no "sale" they're not getting paid "commission". The other "consultants" work for a "manufacturer" and generally are known as or are referred to as "sales reps" and again, they're not the "sole source" for a "product", its very obvious they work for a "manufacturer" for various reasons and they're not SELLING their "services" to the "customer" by simply "consulting" with them.
So, why the "example" and what "hat" do you wear in addition to "machinist" or possibly "in lieu of" machinist? Your "machine shop" and "tools" are way too "clean" to be or have been "used" much, you seem to prefer to "invest" in the "products" of OTHER "machine shops" when you "purchase" tools like the Pierson "pallet system" and apparently since as you said in THAT "consultation" your "priority" is "making parts" and not "saving money", MONEY IS NO OBJECT AT THE PRESENT TIME IN YOUR "MACHINE SHOP" AND YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE "SPARE TIME" TO GO WITH IT GIVEN THE TIME AND "MONEY" YOU PUT INTO YOUR "CONSULTATION" VIDEOS SINCE "BUSINESS" APPARENTLY GOES "ON HOLD" WHILE YOU'RE WAITING FOR SOMETHING ORDERED TO BE DELIVERED AND YOUR "BUSINESS" WAITS LONGER WHILE YOU "UNBOX" AND/OR "REVIEW" IT AND "MAKING PARTS" CAN AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL THOSE "IMPORTANT" TASKS ARE "DOCUMENTED" FOR UPLOAD TO THE INTERNET.
I've seen "comments" on some of your unboxing/review videos asking just what you "make" and they seem to go unanswered. That seems like a "fair" question and one I'd certainly expect to get as a "tradesman" and "self-employed businessman" if I were making "educational" videos and uploading them to the internet and they contained lots of "content" relative to my profession/business but none of me actually "doing my job" demonstrating that I am in fact a diesel mechanic and a "professional" by "documenting" me doing actual "work" for actual "customers" on enough different machines and/or in enough different "real-world" situations outside of a "shop" (that I don't even have since I'm "semi-retired" and work "on-site" for "customers" in/at their "shop" or "field" etc) and with tools obviously "used" and "familiar" enough to me while not being "featured" that it would be "obvious" that I'm not only not a "consultant" but also not a "salesman" or in the "business" of creating online "content" for "financial gain" at ALL since my "content" would have to be just me with my "old" tools in somebody else's "shop" or "field" working on "old" equipment and all I'd be "selling" is "documentation"
of my "experience" that people could take or leave as "educational".
And the 500+ RUclips videos I've made and uploaded over two different "stints" with a channel with actual content and having "deleted" the first channel with 450 or so of them after getting "sick" of all the "experts" in RUclips videos "selling" products and "advice" and complete BULLSHIT "facts" to "noobs" and "rookies" to all kinds of "industries" and "hobbies" and in particular being a "gun guy" and having made almost ALL "gun videos" with my only "diesel mechanic" videos being my own "projects" and the majority of them my own truck doing my own engine overhaul and the other one or two "at work" on John Deere tractors doing and saying nothing to "sell" John Deere anything and having NEVER "MONETIZED" MY "HOBBY" OF MAKING RUclips VIDEOS CHALLENGING THE "EXPERTS" AND "CONVENTIONAL WISDOM" WHILE TELLING PEOPLE I'M NOT AN "EXPERT" MYSELF BUT JUST SOMEONE WITH "REAL-WORLD" EXPERIENCE FOR SEVERAL DECADES WITH MY OWN GUNS AND MY OWN GEAR AND NOT "SELLING" ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY AND "BUYING" EVERYTHING SEEN IN MY VIDEOS NEW AND USED FOR "CASH" AND HAVING IT ALL "PAID FOR", I'VE NEVER TRIED TO BE AND BETTER YET HAVE NEVER WORRIED ABOUT "SELLING" SOMEONE SOMETHING HE/SHE "TRUSTED" ME TO BE "FAIR" AND "OBJECTIVE" AND "UNBIASED" AND AN "UNPAID" AND OTHERWISE "UNCOMPENSATED" SPEAKER FOR MY OWN OPINIONS, BELIEFS, PROCESSES AND "HOW-TO" TIPS AND TRICKS. I don't want and couldn't live with the "responsibility" and/or "guilt" for being an "undercover" salesman for "goods" and/or "services" prominently featured in my "unboxing"or "review" videos and "sold" using people's "good nature" and "good faith" that a "professional" would be the "real deal" and an actual "businessperson" ONLY in the "business" of his/her "profession" rather than a "part-time" or "fake" professional in that "industry" and a full-time "salesman" for whatever company/manufacturer/supplier will "compensate" him/her for "selling" their goods and/or services in RUclips or Patreon "infomercials". Or any other "video sharing" websites that might carry "similar" content.
That was the longest answer i ever read. And i agree on many of your points. Man am I tired of false hopes. The one thing Nerdly said I agree with is to not fantasize and don't take a knife to a gun fight. In the real world this is hard. Lots of work. Sacrifice. Frustration and Depression. Rarely ever a good time. Mostly confusing. And profit seams almost like a lottery ticket. My full time job is supporting me. Not the machines I try to run. Lets hope that changes. More people will take your money than give it to help. More people giving advice they should not. And the real answers to my questions can only be found the hard way, learning from doing. If i get my business off the ground. I am going to be the first to say it like it is. And show the truth. It's a struggle. Most fail and quit. Some make it further. Very few make it all the way.
Good luck
Matt
I really like the saying "If there`s a will, there`s a way" I only use hobby machines to mass produce our products, and only using a freestyle CAM programming.
Haha wow what's the chances. I watch your RC channel, and deciding to start looking at a career path in cnc machining the first video I see was you
Jason, Love you and Dave's Channel! You guys inspire me greatly. :) You are going to become huge on RUclips, - Just my 2cents
The problem with making parts or manufacturing is that there will always be a competition if the part is not unique. And even though it is unique there is still a greater chance of someone copying it, and slashing the price in half and making the market suck. Sounds familliar? Yes what I am talking about is cheap parts that come from China. I am in the 3D Printing Service Provider business and my greatest competitor are China made products. I am thinking now of making my own unique products, since I have knowledge in CAD and 3D Printing. If only they can make Metal 3D Printing Machines a bit more affordable.
Marketing is a huge hurdle. Finding products to make and customers who need you.
thanks man.. exactly what i think. having someone who experience and tell about it like this make me feel better
Can you upload videos designing/making parts on your machine? We haven't seen it in action yet!
tnx so much for this video
How would I get in touch with you regarding a project I'm working on?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
Great advice once again Jason. Thank you.
Man, recently you are just pumpin out the videos! Awesome work
How can I email you ??? I would like to get a price estimation on a custom machine that I'm looking forward to buying. Maybe it can come from you.
Alex Contreras sorry Alex. I don’t sell machines.
Hi Jason, great content really enjoying it, keep it up.
Sound advice. Thanks for sharing
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your contribution sir
Hope knolage helps channel and u
It is uncanny how similar my own story is to yours.
how so?
fulfilling ?
full throttle cnc.. reminder lol
John m ?
I can’t find the “full throttle cnc” channel that you mentioned
Tophan it’s
Gone now
He moved to another Industry
Nerdly thanks for the reply! By the way, I just binge-watched all your videos... What are you manufacturing? All you show is machining a big metal disk, what is it for?
Nerdly also, youtube served me your channel after I’ve binge watched this new channel: ruclips.net/video/lPMg0dk1hFI/видео.html I bet you will enjoy it as well 👍
Thanks
Yet u compinting with china.....
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Gave u stuff to talk about so I'm going to subscribe to c if lean into answers...can respond to me alone but got to b private via e mail or something
What's the blue cable/line on the wall behind you?
Keep it up....talk about patents next and copy right laws....I know something u dont
sorry buddy. i know that i DONT know much about either of those topics.
Or China steel vs usa grade
It ok. The less anyone knows the better. .but Google how usa has copy rights for usa but China Japan tiwan dont???? Where I'm going is most parts made not have copy right laws and can steel them.....and use better metal but u in competition with tiwan and China korria ect..Mexico
I can't believe how on point this video is! You're literally talking directly to me right now! a) I have a product I'm preparing to launch, b) I have no history in manufacturing but have spent the last several years learning cnc, c) I'm sorry I didn't get into this years earlier and LOVE being able to make product thoughts a reality, d) I've been learning on a hobby mill and planned to product launch with a newer one (vs maker space one now), e) I priced out getting a CM to make my parts and found that impractical for a start-up. I was up until 3:30AM going over your other videos and in one video you've changed my entire business plan and I'd love to be able to ping on you for occasional start-up advice.
I am in the same boat so to speak. $20K for the next round of iterations of my new product.....so I bought the machine. I don't want to subscriber poach, but I did launch a channel based on this exact situation. I am just just getting my machined in my garage. It's crazy how this space is full of people like us, tying to break out a new product, but are up against that development cost wall.
My quote came back at just under $94k. Not going to happen. :)
$94K for your next round of protos? wow!
Not exactly. I prototype myself and here I was looking for 1000 of my 6-part assemblies. You could fit 4 of the 6 parts in a lipstick tube at one time so now I’m looking for an entry level machine with high rpms - for small tools - and accuracy. Looks like those assemblies are now MY responsibility.