@@PathofEvening For me, 2 go-to strats to farm for like 3 leagues already is delirium(shrines+exarch) and strongboxes(pretty much your setup). And IMO, delirium feels like more stable way to farm. If you can consistently get yourself to tier 7 rewards. then you`ll be farming like 5d/h and literally any build can get to t7 if setup is done right. And if your build is good and you can consistently get to tier 8 rewards, then value is skyrocketing to 10-15d/h because divine drop on t7 is lucky, divine drop on t8 is just semi-casual loot. Deli is better for me because I love to feel the constant flow of value, where you`re getting something each and every map. Strongboxes is like gamba, you can farm 0d/h even with good setup for t16 maps and on the next hour you farm like 30d.
I would give up 1 scarab for 10% mapchance per mapmod. You go full in extramaps and run 8mods so i think much better for t17. Then refill in the connected map with 8 mod corrupted and 300%map in 5-10 maps
League is 5 weeks in or smth? I just finished up town main thingie and disenchanter yesterday. Rest are sub 10lvl. Money grind for me seems to be the worst , since it's passively burning it (of course I want to send shipments and get food). Time limitation is real for us! There should have been a guide early how to build the town for the best results in start of league.
This made end game much more fun for me. I invested 1 Div in 40 Mesa Maps and got a nameless seer and added that to dunes... I spent 14c to run 10 maps for the scarabs I didn't have...What happened was crazy: A valdos, King Invite, 3 Fortess maps that I sold for 65c a piece... I mean at that point I made all my money back and then some with all the other drops I got from Div cards. THANK YOU
Looking to start this strategy. Do you roll your own 8 mod with the map nodes? or do you buy them yourself? and if you buy them yourself, do you just use TFT or is there a better way?
Yo, got a question. Actually doing the strat and returns are nice, but I got a question. If I wanted to sneak Discernment scarab in the strat, would it be better to replace one regular scarab for it or Potency one? I'm not sure if Potency are worth the slot tbh
Hi, thx for the tips on ambush farm. I follow tour build since your video, i upgraded it, but i dont see no upgrade from you on your POB, is there no upgrade ?
I'm gonna ask a very stupid question probably, but do you guys clear the whole map for altars and then open boxes, or just boss rush and start opening boxes? I always did the first thing but looking at your gameplay I might be stupid
Just open as you go. Technically you will make more currency per map to full-clear first, but that's very slow. There's no way it's better in terms of currency per hour over the span of time, and life's measured in hours, not maps!
Getting to Shaping the World without Bold Undertakings only requires one additional point but gets 6% scarab quant on the way. So by dropping a 4% scarab node to go that way, you are actually gaining 2% scarab quant.
Not doiing Discernment is a mistake, IMO. Makes this a much more stable strat. I've run 100s of maps doing that strat. Not sure what the dib/hour is, but it never felt like drought.
Well I was today year's old when I learned about Chiseled Perfection and 8 mod maps. Thanks for the extra Atlas point Llarold! Also gives me an idea for Maven chisels, might be a decent strat there...
Ok i matched the atlas. I rolled high quant and pack size onto my map. I chiseled. I picked all the scarabs. It doesnt seem like i made anywhere near a D a map. I got some scarabs and some normal t16 maps. And some average div cards. I dont really know what is high value. I get so distracted looking at gear on the ground. Uniques and what not Not sure if i did something wrong or if I'm just assuming all my scarabs and maps are 1-3 chaos and maybe they worth big money
Ambush strat is generally just rng. I honestly also don't like running it in general but it's mindless and safe so it's popular. In terms of profits it reaaaaaaaaaally varies and I would suggest for you to farm another mechanic instead with exarch influence for consistent rewards
@@zackwilson6761 I was feeling the same, till last league. When i droppes double hinekoras, this league its most likely valdos and pure divs when i drop something good. Otherwise its barely 20c/map if u include bubblegum currency
Hi question from Malaysia player , I 1st time play POE hopefully you will answer my question thanks 1) I fresh start atlas tree which node should I focus first (can you recommend route for me) 2) when mapping should I rush boss or clear whole map ? 3) I follow your atlas tree , if I really need to drop few atlas point , which one least important to drop ? 4) which map recommend to make it favorite map Sorry for my stupid questions , as a 1st time player POE THANKS
1. in atlas tree go for every node with stronboxes as much as you can ( it is your priority) 2. you need to kill boss to complete a map and get point, killing gives you xp which is better to do on easy maps ( easy map = mobs won't kill you X times while cleaning) 3. most important things you have in video, the rest of atlas tree isn't important (you can skip blocker points and apply them as the last ones) 4. map is individual just pick the one that is your favourite and fastest if someone else will answer listen to him(this is my second league)
@@kubaduplicki7495 hi want to ask , 1)should I juice my map to do this strategy?? Or just go any t16 map without juice 8 mod 20 quality ? 2) I already pick the 100% drop Ambush scarab node , but I only have 3 pcs in my stash , is it normal for me ?
@@andrewlim3191 if you have problem to find or make 8 mod maps you can use scarab of corruption which gives 100% chance to drop 8 mod maps. The node you have picked gives higher chance of dropping Ambush Scarab , you have to be lucky or just buy scarabs on market
hey can someone enlighten me: i was following fubguns t17/t16 ambush strat and he goes into beyond aswell. do beyond mobs drop normal loot like currency, maps and gold? feel like they're not that rewarding, even if the tainted currency was twice as expensive. cant really find a clear answer to that question what beyond mobs can drop. will try your tree here :) i have divine beauty scryed on dunes, feels also really nice.
Beyond monsters *can* drop regular loot, but they feel like they never do. All they feel like they do is spam respawn while you're trying to get through the map. We're not fans at all for exactly this reason.
@@PathofEvening 15c per map is nothing. 2 - 3 Arcanist boxes usually cover that in chaos drops. And you are not getting those ... or 2xdiv that they drop pretty regularly. You get 10x improvement in all the rare boxes in return, which is especially important with the Diviner ones. You pay 15c + whateve other expenses, got them covered (and thensome) by the Arcanist boxes and then win all that Diviner + extra Arcanist boxes give you. I think I've got 30 - 40 Valdox2 from those as well, since Valdo is currency... and you are not getting that from Ornate ones.
Everytime i’ve tried strongboxes, both in t17 and t16 it just feels like i click boxes and nothing drops, most of my profits end up coming from map minion drops. I’ll try again I guess
i experienced the opposite, everytime i did strongboxes with or without the containment scarab, i got shit ton of currency, on one particular t16 map i dropped 6 divines, 2 valdo puzzle boxes and a reliquary key and that was without the containment scarab, i was really lucky there though
You should probably unspec Bold Undertaking and one of your dead-end 4% scarab nodes and take two 3% scarab nodes to get to Shaping the World. Same points for 2% extra scarab chance. PS thanks for the video!
a slight bummer would be that if you get a Cartographer Strongbox and run Tamper-Proof you could potentially get White T17 Fortress Maps which are corrupted.
Today I run 5 t17s full strongbox setup, with quantity chiseled and all the crap needed. I make more money running 1 8mod t16 with other strats and selling the t17. I really dont understand. Boxes feel fkn empty to me
@@desolation6926 140quant. And all it matters. I know 5 is nothing but what I said is, 5 t17s juiced well rolled and everything nets me less profit than just 1 juiced t16 + selling those t17s
Since you have the all atlas nodes for strongboxes,theres that one that your strong boxes are corrupted,if maps will drop from them sadly it will be corrupted,and corrupted T17's sells for alot less than non corrupted,but overall this is good chill strat,just the prices might bite now after this :P
By removing the bad scarab rolls, you increase the remaining chance of all other possible scarabs proportionally. It's not a huge difference-maker, but it is useful to ensure that all Scarab drops won't be one of the league mechanic scarabs that are all
@@PathofEvening Alright, sounds fair! Another strat that i would like you to cover is the Wisp scarab, some has started to look into it after the rework, might be worth some time to test? :)
@@PathofEvening Sorry to add on on that - are you sure the scarabs get rerolled and not just simply removed? I don't remember where I read it (very reliable, I know), but I remember someone saying that the blocked scarabs simply disappear. And in that case: I regularly take the really cheap and useless scarabs and vendor-reroll them. But if you have a source that the scarabs actually get rerolled into non-blocked ones, I would be very grateful!
Man this is fun! I have only done 3 Maps so far and already had 3 natural Div, 1 Scarab worth 1,7D, 1 Valdos, 2 Fortresses and 1 Fortunate. Atop of that tons of other stuff which will add upp quickly. Also, opening strongboxes is quite cathartic in a way so that a plus too :D
In regards to Scarab costs not increasing: Scarab costs will (unfortunately) always increase. I just saw scarabs from another, casual, chill, scarab strat double in price.
It shouldn't increase and here's why. Strongbox strats are well known already, which is why they are already expensive. If this strat wasn't already known, ambush scarabs would only be like 2 chaos each. But just do a search, there are tons of strongbox strat videos, so no, it shouldn't increased the price. The only time it increases is if it's an undiscovered strat. Plus, lots of players have already quit the league.
The ambush scarabs are so expensive that i barely break even profit wise. And doing it on T17 takes so long with bad mods that i immediatly abandon the strat if i don't see any major above investment gains.
I'm brand new player. Picked up a hinekoras lock. Had no idea what it was. Found it was worth like 50div. So I put it for sale. Some1 sent me an offer for what I thght were divine orbs. I'm on ps4 BTW. So I accepted the sale. Turned out they were exalted orbs not divine orbs. I didn't know.. I'm new. So I got totally ripped and almost stopped playing. I did stop for a day or 2. But I'm back now.
@@frykon1820 for sure, but chisel and corrupting your own maps seems a bit sketchy to me. I've tried it many times, and the chance to get 8 mods seems incredibly low, maybe 1/8? You need an insane base of maps (and chisels) to end up with enough 8 mods to run, or you need to run the failures, which isn't ideal. I'd give them to my mappers but even they aren't happy with junk maps nowadays, they want their 8 mods too and they're threatening a union if I don't provide them 😅
@@PathofEvening That's true. What I do is I make them then corrupt and separate the 8-mod maps I can do then the non 8 mod I run to get more maps so I can corrupt again. When I get a good enough pool of them I do the 9-mod strat. The ones my build can't do I give to kingsmarch guys :D
I tried a single 1hour session completing 13 - t16 8mod toxic sewer maps, made 6,5div net profit. Im too slow + unlucky? thats not even close to 15divs per hour
I really can't understand why this would be the favorite strat of any person that doesn't have gambling addiction, 19 out of 20 mapa you just get trash
Consiatency is key , and doing strongbox this way is not what you call consistent. You could run 14+ map and be dry as heck. Or run 1 and suddenly 4 div worth of item drops Nowadays, i personally juat run maven influenced map. Doing coves ke other maps that lets me reach boss fastest. This way i coukd farm t17 and influenced map easier. And selling maps is better than trying to find divs, cause at least i could get 1 influenced in 2 maps, and tons of t16 maps to sustain this strat
The Nameless Seer can randomly appear in maps. In t16's, you can make him copy the Divination Card drops of your current map onto another map. That's it.
running corrupted strongboxes has the risk of corrupting good maps and unique items. That's why I don't take the corrupted rare strognbox node and just alchemy the boxes myself. It also gives you the chance to roll the diviner's boxes when you get them
Personally I don't think you're required to use Containment to use Discernment, but then again I haven't run boxes in t16, just t17. I usually like running 3 ambushes + 1 discernment + 1 potency.
Agreed. Discernment isn't so expensive that it's not worth it imo. You get so many more diviners and arcanists that it pays for itself over time imo. If it doesn't then it's certainly quite close, and it's definitely a lot more fun to run it
Absolutely works as an option. The point here was to keep costs low, and that pushes this from a 35c/map strategy to a +50c/map strategy. Probably worth it, but no guarantee that it pays off.
i can do t16 juiced to the moon i cant do a t17 to save my life. i think i am maybe 2-40 in them lol. i run the smash build ziz made for cohn and i run frostbolt build both just die. i just dont understand them
Watch out For Maps that have Volatile Core, Awakeners Desolation, Searing Exarch Ground thingy. Also if you don’t have Reduced Crit or watch out for that crazy crit multiplier. Pay attention to the Explicits on the Map
The way Volatile Core works when you kill a Rare or Unique Enemy it’ll spawn a Flaming Ball that’ll follow you and try to explode on you which will One Shot you
I can never force myself to farm boxes for more than 20 maps at a time. I pretty much never get anything, so not only it's boring for me but there's like zero dopamine rush from it. I guess my rng does not allow me to do this strat.
I"ve ran a very similar strat to this and I also use a 20 map sample size. If you aren't making good currency then either your character is bugged, or you are doing something completely wrong. It has to be one of the two. Boring strats to me are essence and harvest, because you always know what you are going to get. That's incredibly boring.
Already did around 100 jungle valley (apothycary scry) 3 ambush, 1 reopen, 1 rare varities. Fully juiced atlas, eater alters, and maps(not 8 mod but around 100% quant) Results: 0 valuable div cards 0 valueble uniques 6 or 8 raw div 3 valdo box 7-8 t17 maps It was the most depressing farming strat I had this league. My valueable boxes refuse to reopen second time and the trash ones open 3-4 times. Maybe I am stuck in a really bad rng for strongboxes. I ran over 400 maps and 0 divine atlars. Ritual and rogue at least treated me decently. Its like GGG predetermined what i shouldn't be farming this league.
Divine Altar is insanely rare, as is doing Apothecary farm without massive amounts of juice. It will pay off *eventually*, but who knows how long that will take? It's like playing the lottery.
That seems very very unlucky. i would always recommend running 8 mod. i got 2 apothecarys which was giga lucky in like 50 maps. but i usually get like min 4 div and 4 valdo boxes every 10-15 maps
Any maps that drop out of the strong boxes roll corrupted. Which makes them worthless as T17s. You are mostly collecting 8 mods out of cartography boxes.
@@PathofEvening Oh, I would still run it but I am using the corruption scarab for maps to sustain my own. It works out to be the same price or cheaper that way. Drops don't really seem to change. Every couple maps a double div or valdos. Which is the bulk of the profit from this. As most of the other stuff has no value below 2-5k stacks due to T17s shitting out currency. I don't know why they can't make scaling content reward better loot and not just more loot of all tiers.
I checked my atlas for harvest for which i ran 8mod jungle valley for the last whole week and got my mageblood today, and i did have chiseled perfection allocated. ggs.
naaa it's too late in the league for that to happen. Prices only increase during the first month or so when tons of players are playing the league. Lots of players have already quit. Almost everyone in the large guild I'm in have quit already.
Why not take the other node in the map wheel instead? Then you can unallocate 3 ambush notables and put those points elsewhere. Sure it will cost you 3 more chaos per map - but that's nothing. I'd rather have the free atlas passives. Edit: Nevermind - this doesn't work. It can allocate passives that you already have.
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I done this for over a week. The variance is pretty crazy. Long streak of nothing to 4 divine a map.
i lucked out and broke even on my first try of 10 maps.
definitely not going to compete with t17 farmers with this strat.
It's true!
@@PathofEvening For me, 2 go-to strats to farm for like 3 leagues already is delirium(shrines+exarch) and strongboxes(pretty much your setup). And IMO, delirium feels like more stable way to farm. If you can consistently get yourself to tier 7 rewards. then you`ll be farming like 5d/h and literally any build can get to t7 if setup is done right. And if your build is good and you can consistently get to tier 8 rewards, then value is skyrocketing to 10-15d/h because divine drop on t7 is lucky, divine drop on t8 is just semi-casual loot. Deli is better for me because I love to feel the constant flow of value, where you`re getting something each and every map. Strongboxes is like gamba, you can farm 0d/h even with good setup for t16 maps and on the next hour you farm like 30d.
@@ДаниилЕрошкин-е9э can u share your atlas tree and scarab setup for delirium strats tyty
Man I just love you. Always no bs content.
Thank you!
Love your videos, they’re always like a sip of pure water
Flavorless? How dare you. This is soda county.
I would give up 1 scarab for 10% mapchance per mapmod. You go full in extramaps and run 8mods so i think much better for t17. Then refill in the connected map with 8 mod corrupted and 300%map in 5-10 maps
This is similar to subtractems strongbox strat.
Yeah, it's a good trade.
its better tto farm t16 8 directly on t17, a single t17 can net you easily 50+ maps
When people say to run this on T17, does that include killing the boss there? I have trouble killing the boss
@@DampTube ofc lol
New dad here. Thanks for the shoutout and strat… the time limitation is real!
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League is 5 weeks in or smth? I just finished up town main thingie and disenchanter yesterday. Rest are sub 10lvl. Money grind for me seems to be the worst , since it's passively burning it (of course I want to send shipments and get food). Time limitation is real for us! There should have been a guide early how to build the town for the best results in start of league.
@@DSGNjunkie lmao same!!
Same brother!! 830-12 and struggling in the morning lol. But damn wouldn't trade it for the world!
Hi dads
This made end game much more fun for me. I invested 1 Div in 40 Mesa Maps and got a nameless seer and added that to dunes... I spent 14c to run 10 maps for the scarabs I didn't have...What happened was crazy: A valdos, King Invite, 3 Fortess maps that I sold for 65c a piece... I mean at that point I made all my money back and then some with all the other drops I got from Div cards. THANK YOU
Congrats!
New player here and was just curious why you go for the scry with mesa and not something like burial chambers for brother's gift?
The Fortunate is more common. You can do either.
ok that is great to hear thank you :)
You're welcome!
Looking to start this strategy. Do you roll your own 8 mod with the map nodes? or do you buy them yourself? and if you buy them yourself, do you just use TFT or is there a better way?
We farm them.
Yo, got a question. Actually doing the strat and returns are nice, but I got a question. If I wanted to sneak Discernment scarab in the strat, would it be better to replace one regular scarab for it or Potency one? I'm not sure if Potency are worth the slot tbh
Potency, definitely.
Hi, thx for the tips on ambush farm.
I follow tour build since your video, i upgraded it, but i dont see no upgrade from you on your POB, is there no upgrade ?
Our next video has what you're looking for, we're still working on it.
I'm gonna ask a very stupid question probably, but do you guys clear the whole map for altars and then open boxes, or just boss rush and start opening boxes? I always did the first thing but looking at your gameplay I might be stupid
Just open as you go. Technically you will make more currency per map to full-clear first, but that's very slow. There's no way it's better in terms of currency per hour over the span of time, and life's measured in hours, not maps!
Noob question: is it worth to run rhe map and get quant/rarity altars before opening boxes? Does it even effect the boxes? Ty in advance
It should effect the boxes but not worth it. Too time consuming
Getting to Shaping the World without Bold Undertakings only requires one additional point but gets 6% scarab quant on the way. So by dropping a 4% scarab node to go that way, you are actually gaining 2% scarab quant.
Yeah, good point.
Dropped 2 mirrors using this strat! Was getting about 15 div/hr using a LSS character. Using alch/chisel maps and blue altars.
Congratulations
@@jabberrock what is blue altars? Sry newbs
@@monzkie001 Searing exarch = red, Eater of worlds = blue
^
Not doiing Discernment is a mistake, IMO. Makes this a much more stable strat. I've run 100s of maps doing that strat. Not sure what the dib/hour is, but it never felt like drought.
It's definitely a good option if you want to bump the cost up a bit without going crazy.
Is it ok to run the maps without 8mods?
Yeah.
@@PathofEvening Thanksss
Well I was today year's old when I learned about Chiseled Perfection and 8 mod maps. Thanks for the extra Atlas point Llarold! Also gives me an idea for Maven chisels, might be a decent strat there...
Maven Chisels are pretty nice, there's definitely some good ideas to be had!
What do think about the abyss/beyond? I haven’t looked at the gold drop rate but I might get pas level 95 doing it lol
Haven't touched them as a combo this league, but worth looking into.
Ok i matched the atlas. I rolled high quant and pack size onto my map. I chiseled. I picked all the scarabs. It doesnt seem like i made anywhere near a D a map. I got some scarabs and some normal t16 maps. And some average div cards. I dont really know what is high value. I get so distracted looking at gear on the ground. Uniques and what not
Not sure if i did something wrong or if I'm just assuming all my scarabs and maps are 1-3 chaos and maybe they worth big money
Ambush strat is generally just rng. I honestly also don't like running it in general but it's mindless and safe so it's popular. In terms of profits it reaaaaaaaaaally varies and I would suggest for you to farm another mechanic instead with exarch influence for consistent rewards
There's only one way to turn RNG around: Run more.
@@zackwilson6761 I was feeling the same, till last league. When i droppes double hinekoras, this league its most likely valdos and pure divs when i drop something good. Otherwise its barely 20c/map if u include bubblegum currency
Yep
Abyss with beyond+delirium with unending nightmare+endless tide is nuts right now and the scarabs are so freaking cheap. But rippy, gl in t17.
Worth a look!
Drop one 4% scarab chance atlas node for two 3% nodes seems good so you can drop bold undertakings
Yup.
Hi question from Malaysia player , I 1st time play POE hopefully you will answer my question thanks
1) I fresh start atlas tree which node should I focus first (can you recommend route for me)
2) when mapping should I rush boss or clear whole map ?
3) I follow your atlas tree , if I really need to drop few atlas point , which one least important to drop ?
4) which map recommend to make it favorite map
Sorry for my stupid questions , as a 1st time player POE THANKS
1. in atlas tree go for every node with stronboxes as much as you can ( it is your priority)
2. you need to kill boss to complete a map and get point, killing gives you xp which is better to do on easy maps ( easy map = mobs won't kill you X times while cleaning)
3. most important things you have in video, the rest of atlas tree isn't important (you can skip blocker points and apply them as the last ones)
4. map is individual just pick the one that is your favourite and fastest
if someone else will answer listen to him(this is my second league)
@@kubaduplicki7495 bro thank you so much , POE such a nice game , player from d4 ( don’t feel like back to d4 haha)
@@kubaduplicki7495 hi want to ask , 1)should I juice my map to do this strategy?? Or just go any t16 map without juice 8 mod 20 quality ?
2) I already pick the 100% drop Ambush scarab node , but I only have 3 pcs in my stash , is it normal for me ?
Seems like others got this for us :)
@@andrewlim3191 if you have problem to find or make 8 mod maps you can use scarab of corruption which gives 100% chance to drop 8 mod maps. The node you have picked gives higher chance of dropping Ambush Scarab , you have to be lucky or just buy scarabs on market
hey can someone enlighten me: i was following fubguns t17/t16 ambush strat and he goes into beyond aswell.
do beyond mobs drop normal loot like currency, maps and gold? feel like they're not that rewarding, even if the tainted currency was twice as expensive. cant really find a clear answer to that question what beyond mobs can drop.
will try your tree here :) i have divine beauty scryed on dunes, feels also really nice.
Beyond monsters *can* drop regular loot, but they feel like they never do. All they feel like they do is spam respawn while you're trying to get through the map. We're not fans at all for exactly this reason.
Inc explicit mod node still works with eldritch quant altars tho if specced into no?
Not Chiselled Perfection, since that's specifically about map quality, but the others do.
Re trying to find the scarab chance, If you use the atlas tree search it'll highlight in the "show stats" section too.
Good shout!
Why are you not running the scarab for rare strongboxes? Why would you want to run these maps where 90% of them are just regular strongboxes?
Because they're expensive.
@@PathofEvening 15c per map is nothing. 2 - 3 Arcanist boxes usually cover that in chaos drops. And you are not getting those ... or 2xdiv that they drop pretty regularly. You get 10x improvement in all the rare boxes in return, which is especially important with the Diviner ones. You pay 15c + whateve other expenses, got them covered (and thensome) by the Arcanist boxes and then win all that Diviner + extra Arcanist boxes give you. I think I've got 30 - 40 Valdox2 from those as well, since Valdo is currency... and you are not getting that from Ornate ones.
If I don't have all 4 void stones, is it better to go more into scarabs?
Yup!
Everytime i’ve tried strongboxes, both in t17 and t16 it just feels like i click boxes and nothing drops, most of my profits end up coming from map minion drops. I’ll try again I guess
99% of gamblers quit right before they hit it big!
i experienced the opposite, everytime i did strongboxes with or without the containment scarab, i got shit ton of currency, on one particular t16 map i dropped 6 divines, 2 valdo puzzle boxes and a reliquary key and that was without the containment scarab, i was really lucky there though
Lucky duck
You should probably unspec Bold Undertaking and one of your dead-end 4% scarab nodes and take two 3% scarab nodes to get to Shaping the World. Same points for 2% extra scarab chance. PS thanks for the video!
Yup!
Please post the Atlas Tree in the description for these types of videos
It's in the "Currency Spreadsheet" link in the description
Added it to the description, as well.
I'm running abyss and ultimatum and its pretty profitable
Excellent
So, why dont you stream on twitch or something Llarold? I would definitely tune in!
We talked about this a bit in a livestream on RUclips. Neither of us has ever been a fan of Twitch, but we might do more lives on RUclips.
First map using this strat and I got a t17 and a valdo's that got doubled from a strongbox
excellent
i run 3 ambush 1 75% potency 1 rarer varieties. thoughts on that vs your setup
Also very good! Higher cost, so more potential for RNG, but that goes both ways.
can u scry mesa both to jungle Valley and Dunes?
You can only scry a map to one other map at a time.
a slight bummer would be that if you get a Cartographer Strongbox and run Tamper-Proof you could potentially get White T17 Fortress Maps which are corrupted.
@@panicSesh If I remember correctly t17 cannot be white at all
T17s cannot be white
Today I run 5 t17s full strongbox setup, with quantity chiseled and all the crap needed. I make more money running 1 8mod t16 with other strats and selling the t17. I really dont understand. Boxes feel fkn empty to me
its because you ran 5. how are you rolling them? you need 140% minimum quant on more currency or 100% more scarabs. 5 maps is literally nothing.
@@desolation6926 140quant. And all it matters. I know 5 is nothing but what I said is, 5 t17s juiced well rolled and everything nets me less profit than just 1 juiced t16 + selling those t17s
Too small sample size. You can even run 10 all dry. Luck base strat
Same, and for me, strong boxes aren't profitable. But I'm sure it varies. I make steady currency selling harvest juice...
@@samgreen8582 exactly what I do
Dad here, much appreciated!
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Since you have the all atlas nodes for strongboxes,theres that one that your strong boxes are corrupted,if maps will drop from them sadly it will be corrupted,and corrupted T17's sells for alot less than non corrupted,but overall this is good chill strat,just the prices might bite now after this :P
Prices should be fine!
prices shouldn't change, because strongbox strats are already known, and it's further in the league meaning less players.
^
When blocking scarab nodes, how do we know that we have a bigger chance of dropping better scarabs?
By removing the bad scarab rolls, you increase the remaining chance of all other possible scarabs proportionally. It's not a huge difference-maker, but it is useful to ensure that all Scarab drops won't be one of the league mechanic scarabs that are all
@@PathofEvening Alright, sounds fair! Another strat that i would like you to cover is the Wisp scarab, some has started to look into it after the rework, might be worth some time to test? :)
@@PathofEvening Sorry to add on on that - are you sure the scarabs get rerolled and not just simply removed? I don't remember where I read it (very reliable, I know), but I remember someone saying that the blocked scarabs simply disappear. And in that case: I regularly take the really cheap and useless scarabs and vendor-reroll them. But if you have a source that the scarabs actually get rerolled into non-blocked ones, I would be very grateful!
Yes, we are sure.
What is the name of your build?
Lightning Strike Slayer.
Can jugg slam run this strat? New player here and currently on yellow maps
Yup.
@@PathofEvening Hello is this still viable? I just currently completed t16's and faught maven is it alright to run this strat now?
Man this is fun! I have only done 3 Maps so far and already had 3 natural Div, 1 Scarab worth 1,7D, 1 Valdos, 2 Fortresses and 1 Fortunate. Atop of that tons of other stuff which will add upp quickly. Also, opening strongboxes is quite cathartic in a way so that a plus too :D
It isss
In regards to Scarab costs not increasing: Scarab costs will (unfortunately) always increase. I just saw scarabs from another, casual, chill, scarab strat double in price.
Yeah, to some extent that's always going to be true, but at this point in the league the supply is real, real high.
It shouldn't increase and here's why. Strongbox strats are well known already, which is why they are already expensive. If this strat wasn't already known, ambush scarabs would only be like 2 chaos each. But just do a search, there are tons of strongbox strat videos, so no, it shouldn't increased the price. The only time it increases is if it's an undiscovered strat. Plus, lots of players have already quit the league.
Yep
The ambush scarabs are so expensive that i barely break even profit wise. And doing it on T17 takes so long with bad mods that i immediatly abandon the strat if i don't see any major above investment gains.
So run t16's.
6. slot is killing a t17 boss right ?
That's right.
I'm brand new player. Picked up a hinekoras lock. Had no idea what it was. Found it was worth like 50div. So I put it for sale. Some1 sent me an offer for what I thght were divine orbs. I'm on ps4 BTW. So I accepted the sale. Turned out they were exalted orbs not divine orbs. I didn't know.. I'm new. So I got totally ripped and almost stopped playing. I did stop for a day or 2. But I'm back now.
Ouch!
got two lock at 31st map thanks!
Nice!
Yeah its my first league but running a t17 strongbox i dropped 2 mirrors from one arcanist strongbox. Was on a 409 percent currency abomination.
First league and 2 mirrors. Everything after that feels really bad I suppose.
Off to a good start!
@@zethjin_66 this is true I got 3 brother gift cards back to back and felt nothing
If you chisel and corrupt your own maps then Chiselled Perfection is soooo worth it.
@@frykon1820 for sure, but chisel and corrupting your own maps seems a bit sketchy to me. I've tried it many times, and the chance to get 8 mods seems incredibly low, maybe 1/8? You need an insane base of maps (and chisels) to end up with enough 8 mods to run, or you need to run the failures, which isn't ideal. I'd give them to my mappers but even they aren't happy with junk maps nowadays, they want their 8 mods too and they're threatening a union if I don't provide them 😅
That's true, but actually hand-corrupting up to 8 mods takes some time and effort.
@@PathofEvening That's true. What I do is I make them then corrupt and separate the 8-mod maps I can do then the non 8 mod I run to get more maps so I can corrupt again. When I get a good enough pool of them I do the 9-mod strat. The ones my build can't do I give to kingsmarch guys :D
@@brianh5844 Well that's true but it is the budget option xD
2:53 if this lasts longer than 4 hours please go see your doctor, man.
=P
I tried a single 1hour session completing 13 - t16 8mod toxic sewer maps, made 6,5div net profit. Im too slow + unlucky? thats not even close to 15divs per hour
4.5 minutes per map on t16 isn't particularly fast, so that sounds like a combination of both, yeah.
Hexblast gang build in nuts
Nice.
finafuckingly. been waiting on this.
Here it is!
I really can't understand why this would be the favorite strat of any person that doesn't have gambling addiction, 19 out of 20 mapa you just get trash
You just described 99.9% of PoE players.
Consiatency is key , and doing strongbox this way is not what you call consistent. You could run 14+ map and be dry as heck. Or run 1 and suddenly 4 div worth of item drops
Nowadays, i personally juat run maven influenced map. Doing coves ke other maps that lets me reach boss fastest.
This way i coukd farm t17 and influenced map easier. And selling maps is better than trying to find divs, cause at least i could get 1 influenced in 2 maps, and tons of t16 maps to sustain this strat
Up to you how you approach farm strats. Most people prefer an occasional huge pop of currency.
Where is the atlas passive link?
Spreadsheet, but added to video description as well, just for you. =)
@@PathofEvening thank you very much : )
yep
What is scribe a map?
The Nameless Seer can randomly appear in maps. In t16's, you can make him copy the Divination Card drops of your current map onto another map. That's it.
@@PathofEvening why the mesa map? no good div cards there...
@@nyutrig The Fortunate is a good card that drops pretty frequently. It's not a jackpot drop, but it's a good workhorse moneymaker.
@@atreusmonk oh i was looking it up and that card isnt listed for mesa.
running corrupted strongboxes has the risk of corrupting good maps and unique items. That's why I don't take the corrupted rare strognbox node and just alchemy the boxes myself. It also gives you the chance to roll the diviner's boxes when you get them
If you're willing to do that, it's good, but it is time-consuming and high-effort.
u said hinekoras lock x number of times
Solve for x.
Personally I don't think you're required to use Containment to use Discernment, but then again I haven't run boxes in t16, just t17. I usually like running 3 ambushes + 1 discernment + 1 potency.
Agreed. Discernment isn't so expensive that it's not worth it imo. You get so many more diviners and arcanists that it pays for itself over time imo. If it doesn't then it's certainly quite close, and it's definitely a lot more fun to run it
Absolutely works as an option. The point here was to keep costs low, and that pushes this from a 35c/map strategy to a +50c/map strategy. Probably worth it, but no guarantee that it pays off.
i can do t16 juiced to the moon i cant do a t17 to save my life. i think i am maybe 2-40 in them lol. i run the smash build ziz made for cohn and i run frostbolt build both just die. i just dont understand them
Watch out For Maps that have Volatile Core, Awakeners Desolation, Searing Exarch Ground thingy. Also if you don’t have Reduced Crit or watch out for that crazy crit multiplier. Pay attention to the Explicits on the Map
@@gears7333 thank you for the tips
The way Volatile Core works when you kill a Rare or Unique Enemy it’ll spawn a Flaming Ball that’ll follow you and try to explode on you which will One Shot you
This is good advice, yup.
I can never force myself to farm boxes for more than 20 maps at a time. I pretty much never get anything, so not only it's boring for me but there's like zero dopamine rush from it. I guess my rng does not allow me to do this strat.
The only way to fix bad RNG is to keep going! 99% of gamblers quit right before they hit it big!
@@PathofEvening slot machine ritual is more profitable.
I"ve ran a very similar strat to this and I also use a 20 map sample size. If you aren't making good currency then either your character is bugged, or you are doing something completely wrong. It has to be one of the two. Boring strats to me are essence and harvest, because you always know what you are going to get. That's incredibly boring.
@@down-the-rabbit-hole how the hell a character get bugged? You can see my comment. I posted my stats for strongbox.
@@tamjidterrorblade Then I guess you either have the world's worst RNG or are doing something wrong.
Is discernment scarab not worth anymore ?
It's good, just a little expensive.
noo my not so cheap scarab gonna spike again T,T
IT'LL BE FINE! =)
no it won't because strongbox strats are already well known.
^
Already did around 100 jungle valley (apothycary scry) 3 ambush, 1 reopen, 1 rare varities. Fully juiced atlas, eater alters, and maps(not 8 mod but around 100% quant) Results:
0 valuable div cards
0 valueble uniques
6 or 8 raw div
3 valdo box
7-8 t17 maps
It was the most depressing farming strat I had this league. My valueable boxes refuse to reopen second time and the trash ones open 3-4 times. Maybe I am stuck in a really bad rng for strongboxes. I ran over 400 maps and 0 divine atlars. Ritual and rogue at least treated me decently. Its like GGG predetermined what i shouldn't be farming this league.
Divine altar is too rare, ive ran two weeks of juiced exile glacier, not a single divine rain.
Divine Altar is insanely rare, as is doing Apothecary farm without massive amounts of juice. It will pay off *eventually*, but who knows how long that will take?
It's like playing the lottery.
That seems very very unlucky. i would always recommend running 8 mod. i got 2 apothecarys which was giga lucky in like 50 maps. but i usually get like min 4 div and 4 valdo boxes every 10-15 maps
@@Comuniou956 update: now I started doing 8 mod 110 quant. Just 10 maps so far. It is little bit better.
Any maps that drop out of the strong boxes roll corrupted. Which makes them worthless as T17s. You are mostly collecting 8 mods out of cartography boxes.
Not totally worthless, but yeah, the map wheel is the most questionable part of the strategy.
I can still sell them pretty easily for 90c corrupted. so not that big of a deal
@@PathofEvening Oh, I would still run it but I am using the corruption scarab for maps to sustain my own. It works out to be the same price or cheaper that way. Drops don't really seem to change. Every couple maps a double div or valdos. Which is the bulk of the profit from this. As most of the other stuff has no value below 2-5k stacks due to T17s shitting out currency.
I don't know why they can't make scaling content reward better loot and not just more loot of all tiers.
I checked my atlas for harvest for which i ran 8mod jungle valley for the last whole week and got my mageblood today, and i did have chiseled perfection allocated. ggs.
Sometimes the game rewards mistakes!
“Wehhhh now prices gonna increase buuuhuhhhhh waaaaaaah”
=)
naaa it's too late in the league for that to happen. Prices only increase during the first month or so when tons of players are playing the league. Lots of players have already quit. Almost everyone in the large guild I'm in have quit already.
Because you can ship food and get currency they nerfed tones. Worst season for me
Yeah, no beep boops for you.
Why not take the other node in the map wheel instead? Then you can unallocate 3 ambush notables and put those points elsewhere.
Sure it will cost you 3 more chaos per map - but that's nothing. I'd rather have the free atlas passives.
Edit: Nevermind - this doesn't work. It can allocate passives that you already have.
The notables it chooses are random and they can be ones you already have, so never, ever take that node.
@PathofEvening I had tried this today after work - and found out what you just said is true. Just came back to correct myself. Lol.
ok
I like your strategies but gosh they are yapful
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
noob farm !!
Ok
Why Exarth and not Eater?
Works better for the character. You can do either.
I'm a dad that plays 542390543 minutes per week ANYWAYS
Impressive