The Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders | Full Episode | Hometown Tragedy: A True-Crime Series | Very Local
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- The murders of Oklahoma Girl Scouts, Lori Farmer, Doris Denise Milner and Michele Guse, have haunted the community of Locust Grove and beyond for decades.
On June 12, 1977, Girl Scouts from Tulsa and surrounding areas arrived at Camp Scott in Locust Grove, Oklahoma. As the girls went to sleep for the night, a thunderstorm rolled through into the early hours the next morning. When counselor Carla Wilhite heard something in the middle of the night, she got up to investigate. She heard a guttural moaning sound coming from the main road through camp. After investigating, she determined it was probably just an animal so she returned to bed.
The next morning on her way to the shower house, Wilhite made a horrible discovery. This was the beginning of a nightmare that would last decades as investigators try to uncover clues about the atrocious crimes committed at Camp Scott.
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@@optimisticoutreach1236 Seems like a REALLY insensitive comment on such a sad story.
@@22lyric lol...Karen, nothing derogatory was said of the story...go pick another argument to pass your time 😘
There Is no rehabilitation none they don't deserve to live & breathe who ever did this is A MONSTER a d to give them protection in jail where's the justice ⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️ the victims pain is forgotten and the monster should be given to the Family that is justice
Shattered Justice names the murders. Has the confession. Tells how the Farmers blocked the investigation of Sheriff Smith. How Reed is protecting the killers now.
Why are rapist or sexual offenders eligible for parole in the first place
because the courts dont care about women and girls.
They should get a rope immediately. But the leftists and religious maniacs protest the death penalty. So these people don't have much to fear but some time in prison. Then they get out and do it again in most cases.
Because DA's cut deals with the attorneys. The courts are a joke
Because the judicial system and the entire 'government' -especially at the top levels are run by the very worst criminals on the planet! Everything is by design. The criminals of that court system betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
Because the Laws Favor the Criminals, and Screw the Innocent and their Families.
Lori’s mother is one of the most amazing, loving, strong mothers I’ve witnessed. She is absolutely an amazing mother who did NOT fail her daughter. The camp failed her, the justice system failed her, but not her mother.
I have so much love for the mothers of the 3 girls.
I was just going to comment what a strong woman she is.
She’s very courageous.
She's a very strong person. I commend her for all that she has done.
I was 16 that summer and doing my yearly visit with my grandparents in Missouri when we saw the news report about this case. To this day, all these years later, I still remember my grandmother putting her hand to her mouth and gasping and then her coffee cup hitting the tiled floor of the kitchen. Her reaction was so emotional and so unexpected that I have never forgotten it. She said "those poor baby girls" and she was crying. My mother was her only child and I think she was reacting the way she would have reacted if it had been her daughter, and not someone else's, who had been murdered so brutally.
I lived in California and I don't recall ever hearing about this on the news. Didn't it get broadcasted nation wide?
@@susiearviso3032 I didn't remember it either go figure 🤔
Oh Cheryl, how terrible for her. Obviously your grandmother was a kind and caring person. Is she still living? I'm thinking not. It's been too long. God bless you, Cheryl!
@@susiearviso3032 Thank you! Yes, my grandmother felt things keenly. Unfortunately, she passed away in 1997 age 85.
Cheryl: Your beloved grandmother sounds like a beautiful human being with a lot of kindness and empathy. The story of these poor girls is horrifying, sickening and desperately sad. Your grandmother felt all that and understood. Thank you for sharing your--and her--story.
When somebody commits a heinous crime like rape and/or kidnapping, they are NEVER again fit to be in society as they are too dangerous and should get LIFE sentences.
For real. We need to protect our children at all cost!
American mentes No pienzan Consecuensas Dehar a las nenas sin UN Adulto para Respons 😮😮
The killer who escaped from prison just prior to the attacks, had previously attacked two women and brutally raped them. One lived to tell. It was done by Mr. Hart, the killer. The woman told police that when he was raping her, he was making a gutteral moaning noise, just like he did that night at the camp. That's what the counselor was hearing on that rainy night.
BS and I was around at the time.
@@Friendofstfrank ruclips.net/video/5DIM73FDHrs/видео.htmlsi=CzX1_kqV5D-cyc4Y
I heard about that too.
The counselor said it almost sounded like a frog croaking.
But the shoe size didn't match or something, right? Odk, but I know there were 3 strong suspects.
I wish they'd found the killer. Just for the families sakes.
Rape is a vile and evil act and it is beyond me that the law is not harder on sentencing these wicked men for life .
Totally agree with you. Hart's 1966 case was a strange one. The two women were 18 and 19. One was 4 months pregnant with her first child and recently married. The other was recently divorced and 6 months pregnant with her second child (neither were showing according to the 19 year old who testified during the pre-trial hearing). They were out at a BYOB singles club drinking alcohol. The evidence against Hart was weak and considering it was 1966 in the bible belt, a jury was likely to not sympathize with the victims (sadly). So, I'm certain all of that played into the weak sentencing Hart received in his plea deal as well as his parole 28 months later.
@@notsure4878If you think that Christians side with rapists then that's very ignorant of you. God is the ultimate judge of rapists and none will get away with it.
@@Marlaina You clearly know very little about the Midwest in the 70s. I assure you that two pregnant women (one married and 4 months pregnant the other recently divorced and pregnant with her 2nd child at age 19) who were both out drinking alcohol at a singles bar would bode well in front of an Oklahoman jury. It certainly played a huge part in Hart only receiving a slap on the wrist for his crime (considering he was out on parole after only serving 28 months). He was also only convicted of SAing one of the two women as well.
Lori's mother did not fail as a mother. I have deep empathy for all 3 of the victims' families.
I can only imagine the amount of guilt the parents placed on themselves. The hell they've had to live through and continue to live through due to the case never officially being solved/closed.
@@notsure4878 Closing the case isn't going to bring these kids back.
I can't think of anything that might ease the pain of the families.
As far as any guilt they might be feeling, they had absolutely no part in it.
@@bendover4154 True, but Sherri Farmer has been actively involved in on-going investigations and wants justice for her daughter. New evidence and suspects are being looked at by the Cherokee Marshal Services. Hopefully, they are able to bring this case to a close.
@@notsure4878 I don't know much about the case, it's a difficult topic to research. From what I understand, the Sheriff seems convinced who was responsible.
If he's wrong, that could hinder a proper investigation.
I'm a retired peace officer and thank GOD I never had to work a case like this.
@@notsure4878 All of the families have certainly earned closure but I doubt it will help much.
I can't imagine anything more horrific than losing a child.
The worst part is that it could have easily been prevented.
EXTREME danger to society, and yet our justice system feels it's "okay" to let them loose and live among us. They need to lock them up for life, there is no rehabilitation possible for these monsters.
The American justice system creates more victims than it does to protect the innocent. Always has, always will.
How in the hell wasn’t there a camp staff member in each cabin or at least a couple member might patrol this is crazy
Stop judging and placing blame!.
I know right I said the sane thing know one is blaming .It just should have been alot safer for those young girls to be in those make shift tents.Im 60 years old abd I would have been scared in there it was horrible case
Exactly they should’ve have more adult supervision
You have to remember, this was back in the 70's, when people slept with their doors unlocked. Hell, when I was a kid, all the kids in the neighborhood ran around all day, without checking in with our parents. We went out in the morning, came back to get lunch and then we're out till the porch lights came on. Things were different back then.
@@michelleclark3011 Agreed
Oh this is creepy... Utterly frightening, and disturbing. Bravest mother... I CANNOT accept that SEX OFFENDERS are allowed IN ANY WAY to be given parole. Once caught, they must be held for the term of their life... No parole, ever.
I could not agree more. Children lives are the important ones.
AMEN. The scum of the earth.
AMEN AMEN & AMEN TO THAT YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT NO GETTING EVER SUCH AWFUL DRITY BASTERS I CAN'T STAND CHILD PREDATORS 😢 JUST SOOOOOOOO VERY AWFUL MY LORD
@@sophiamarquis Agree 100%.
You hit the nail on the head. Crazy world we live in. They will really try to rehabilitate pedophiles. They get out do it again and again..
I feel bad for all 3 girls but I honestly think Denise got it the worst. Being walked out to the woods to die after you saw two other girls killed... that had to be terrifying
She's my cousin
@@thatsme4799why y’all get on here and lie?
@@Providedbygeoowhat did they lie about?
@@ProvidedbygeooIt's crazy that people think these victims are without family who are still living out in the world
Comment sections are not for them @@Marlaina
My mother was incredibly wise & street smart. Raised 4 with NO support from crazy father, welfare, etc. She trusted NO man & always encouraged her daughters to stay in the living room or in our driveway with our boyfriends..."I don't want to ever hear that my daughter has been killed on some dark road!"...Sure miss you mama.
That was ME with my two daughters AND my two sons. *_AND no dating until they were 16, both my daughters AND my SONS._* Ppl would tell me, "You have no idea if they're sneaking!", but I'd KNOW. My kids were justifiably terrified of me: They knew that lying to me was the ONE thing that I *WOULD NOT TOLERATE.*
Thank you so much for your comment!
She sounded like a great mom ❤
Poor babies, this case has always been especially heartbreaking 💔
terrible and heart breaking
@@larryfaulkner5705 It actually pisses me off that the camp tents were open game for anyone to just walk into. No chain link fence around the place, even.
@@susiearviso3032 It was probably difficult to fathom there would be such a monster capable of such horrendous acts. This camp, and many others like it were probably operating for many years without anything like this happening.
It really is some sick people in this world
Sheri, Lori's mom is such a beautiful and strong lady! My heart goes out to her and the other families. So sad.
How come they let three 8-9 yr olds sleep in their own cabin with no adult supervision.
Oh it was even worse than that... They weren't in cabins. They were in canvas tents that were setup on wooden platforms. The tents could be opened easily from either side. There were only a couple of counselors per unit and the counselors were in their own tent. The three girls who were murdered were in the furthest tent away from the counselors.
@@notsure4878 Yes, but many camps just like this operated for more than 100 years without any incidents like this. Most people could never even imagine a monster such as this - especially back in those days.
@@tonyprice2256 in that case should been stop that before it started 100 years ago
@@marvinaafamilychannel5948 True. If only we could see the future, we could stop everything bad before it ever could happen.
Things were different then.
As much as I hate to say that, it's true...I'm an 80s kid, and the crap we did would never fly today.
If people who have been wrongfully convicted can sue and get money there needs to be some way for the public to sue the courts and the jails for this kind of malfeasance. Anyone court that will release a man who kidnapped and raped two pregnant woman needs to be held responsible. How does a jail have a man escape not once but twice and not transfer him to a higher security prison? I honestly feel like soo many horrific crimes are committed by people who should have never been giving another chance and the police and courts keep getting allowed to say "oops" and move on.
Hmmm.... George Floyd held a knife to the belly of a pregnant woman and some time later dies after being arrested for other felonies. Now he is a Saint for the Black Community.
I agree 100%.
It's not the court, it's the jurors in this case. They cared more for the murderer than for those poor innocent children.
The system is never going to be policed, especially by itself
This in my opinion is 100% incompetence of law enforcement and a complete perversion of the justice system, they kept the trial in the offenders home location causing bias, the offender fled custody twice prior and there was no consideration for his prior offenses when being classified as an in-custody inmate, and lastly the crime scene was trampled on. If the OSBI and the state of OK has any decency, they would exume Harts remains and test further DNA, if his families wont allow, time to go the genealogy route with GED Match. As a 38 year old Father of 2 girls, this case pisses me off. Its absurd how this was handled and it needs to be vindicated as such.
Oh Mama you didn't fail. You didn't fail nothing! The justice system failed your baby, not you. Please don't think or feel that way. You are an amazing mom and I bet Lori would agree. I'm all for making her memory live on!
Gayle
The criminals of that court system betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
Wish there was a way to tell her she didn’t fail.. no one could imagine someone could be this cruel to small children. 😢
I am a native Tulsan. I was 16 years old when these heinous crimes were committed and will remember them as long as I'm alive. I've grown up haunted with this crime and Gene Leroy Hart.
I have two precious children of my own, having lost my youngest, and I have two precious grandchildren. To this very day my heart fills with grief and goes out to the Farmer, Milner and Guse families. Lori, Denise and Michele will NEVER, ever be forgotten with all of their Oklahoma families that have come to know and love them. Their memories will truly live on for generations to come.
To Sheri Farmer, you did not fail Lori. You're an amazing mother and your continued presence, advocacy and strong commitment to Lori in our community is felt across this country.
We openly share the burden of the loss these three families are suffering.
I am from Massachusetts and never heard of this case before. It was truly a heartbreaking story. The criminals of the court system failed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he will not be able to hurt anybody else ever again. May God Bless you and yours!
I have seen several videos covering this horrible crime. This is the absolute best coverage of the story I have viewed!!! Very well done with the archived clips, Lori's mother's interview and the overall production is exceptional to all other versions!!!
That's because this is an actual episode of a television true crime series, made by professionals who likely went to film school, with a sizable budget, access to all the police evidence , and the ability to interview people involved with the case. The majority of videos on RUclips are amateur content, made on a shoestring budget, by true crime hobbyists, with little to no training or education about producing a documentary, writing a script, etc. An actual television production will almost invariably be of higher quality than amateur RUclips content.
@@c.bretmiller6148 Thank you for the information on that. So much crap on the internet but at times like this a lot of knowledge also.
Agreed
Yes this channel has top-notch production.
AGREED!!!
God bless this mom, she did not fail her daughter. Her beautiful baby would want her to live with peace.
So terrible. I can't imagine how the parents felt. Losing a child is hard enough but losing it in such a violent way is devastating.
Finding out that he was aquitted was heart wrenching for me, but i don't think i can fully imagine how devastating it was for the families & everyone involved with prosecuting him. Hearing Lori's mom tell about going to her graveside after getting the verdict & confessing to Lori that she failed her broke my heart even more. The poor parents of all 3 girls. Knowing that he died so soon after & so didn't get to enjoy the aquittal is a small comfort.
The criminals of that court system betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
@@tonyprice2256 What about the guys that were actually seen at the camp that night that Reed let's live right here in Locust Grove to this day? The party that went on that Reed doesn't mention. Campers hearing men talking. But Carla not hearing that. Men talking. A girl crying for her momma. Carla doesn't hear that? Reed is a liar. This case isn't solved because there is a list of names that was at the camp and Gene's name isn't on it. You should cry for all the children that was molested by the guys they let go free.
@@cynthiawashburn771 Sadly, the entire system is crooked and rotten to the core. True justice can never be the result from a system run by criminals.
I read a book about it. On that night, a counselor went to the bathroom and saw a flashlight light in the woods. She was too scared to investigate and just went back to bed. Shocking ramifications.
From lreland and never heard about this story but I don't think I would have the emotional feelings I have right now back then if that makes sense?
u got the no sleep post mixed up
@@thewayshelovedyou well there's a mystery for me .
Omg that's awful
In 2022, it was announced that DNA testing in the case, although officially inconclusive, strongly suggests Hart’s involvement in the crime.
I was so mad when that report came out . They just kept dismissing this guy for so long
How is Hart?
Update please?
sad. cant jail him for it, double jeopardy
That mom is heartwrenching to watch. What a lovely person to carry on and help others with their traumatic experiences. I hope she realises that she hasn't failed as a mother.
The way mrs farmer was standing strong doing an interview two days after learning that terrible news. You did not fail your girl. Peace to you and the girls and all the families. Lord give them your peace and that monster his justice.
Gene Leroy Hart has already met a fate ordained by the One Judge who can never be fooled! In the longest of runs, nobody gets away with anything! That knowledge brings a degree of peace, I truly believe.
Absolutely.
False deities. There is no 'god', no judgement, no justice. Lori must have had 20 crucifixes on the wall, how did they prevent the tragedy that befell her daughter? Totems. Superstition. Pieces of wood and plastic.
I could be wrong, there may well be some kind of afterlife, but unfortunately I highly doubt it. Probability is on my side. Religion is just a distraction, a comforter, a set of rules that only a few seem to be able to actually live by.
God is a fairy tale.
This is the only life you have.
@@powbobs I don't believe that I do believe in God sorry you don't
@@jen-ms4xo
Fairytales can be comforting, but delusions hinder progress.
Lori's mom is an incredible woman.
All of them are. Have you watched the Hulu documentary about this it’s called Keeper of the ashes?
What a dignified woman, she is a wonderful mother..I can tell. Bless her soul xxx
How is that man hart not guilty, the man he escaped with who got caught early said hart had a torch which was covered leaving a small hole, it's disgusting those girls didnt get justice
He was judge guity by the only one that matters, We can hope he is enjoying Hell
Exactly… that’s very distinctive plus the similarities with the other cases
I’m sure someone killed him in prison
He's not a pedophile. You'd have to be an advanced pedophile to kill three girls. It's someone in plain site whose raped whatever kids he gained access to. Pedophiles get school jobs and school janitor jobs to gain access. There was a male camp leader that had obtained a job to guarantee him access to many little girls!! Notice it occurred the first night!! He had mapped it all out beforehand. It had to be the camp leader. I'm sure there are dead girls all over his background.
The man was framed by psycho white man
I grew up with this case. We lived just an hour from Locust Grove....on HWY 66 . Every year the news would report on this case. I was the same age as the oldest victim being 10 years old. Our church changed lakes to take the youth to because of the Girl Scout Murders. Leroy Hart was Native American something I'm glad was not brought up in this short documentary. Folks said that the police were "racist" looking for an escape goat. Mr. Hart was seen as the "victim" ....not those three innocent girls....despite his history. It's almost unfathomable how some said he "only" raped those two pregnant women....but didn't kill them. Infact his funeral was widely attended. I hope those that felt sorry for this murdering child rapist... feel guilt & shame for supporting him. Being a mother of two girls (now grown women) my heart goes out to Mrs. Farmer. There is no closure when a child is murdered and to suggest there is ... is cruel.
He’s Nothing but a savage , some things never change
Well said hun my 🙏s are with the 3 children's parents & family the man who did this was a sick evil monster & should of gotten the death penalty definitely.
It's scapegoat in case you ever need the word again. And you're right
Why do are you “glad” they didn’t mention him being Native American? White privilege on your part? Or what?
@@JessicaRodriguez-zy5gz The fact he was Native American had NOTHING to do with the story! (Infact it's what helped him escape justice) the content of his character was what should have been judged and he was not a good guy...far from it. Sweets I guarantee you...I spent more time growing up in the projects than you ever have. Then went back & spent at least 15 to 20% of my income on teaching to poor kids who were like myself. Except for virtue signaling.... WTHeck have YOU EVER DONE TO HELP ANYONE? What makes you think I'm white? My name is Doña. That's the problem with YOU...the content of your character should be what is judged...not the color of skin. That place I talked about growing up was foster care. White privilege is a cop out to express why some people don't use the opportunities all around them!! Nobody handed me a thing...nor did I whine & 😭 that my parents were addicts & I got a bumm life. Infact, as a kid / teen I was told I'd probably be like my mother & earn a living on my back. I had the boots of others pressing upon my neck! You're such a fool to follow such ignorance and "assume" you know me. (I suppose no one ever broke up that word up to you.) Just like I could say nasty things about Mexicans but I won't nor would I as some of my best friends were Hispanic graduating from Valley Union on the border of Arizona & Mexico. Your last name is Rodriguez. For all I know you could be Japanese who married a Hispanic man. Our Govt pitts us against each other. Do better! Be better.....than what you just presented!!
I’m a little shocked there wasn’t an adult in each tent with the little girls. Very unsecured kids camp.
It was suppose to be safe. Who knew a monster was hanging around. It was 1973. I had gone to girl scout camp a few years before, never even thought about bad people. What is wrong with our world? What ever happen to do unto others as you would have done to you . Seems forgotten today .it would have taken all the fun away if we would have had an adult with us. We were kids, camping, oh so much fun there was no way there parents could ever had said no. It was not like they were trying to get rid of the girls, it cost money to go.
I thought the same, and got a chill my daughter was at camp......
Camp doesn't work like that. I went to girl scout camp every summer when I was growing up, it was very safe. Especially back then.
And they had gotten threats.
@@lilacopeland9624 They should have known. There were death threats before it happened.
Those innocent babies need justice and peace!!!
Hart did it . 2022 DNA evidence showed it. .
He died in prison. Justice is done.
Horrific. My heart breaks for the families. God rest their souls.
I know this pain well. My daughter would have turned 11 years old, two days ago on September 11, 2023. Instead, she was killed in a car accident because her mother was texting and driving and wrecked. Worst day of my life and something I'll never get over. She was my only child. All I had 😭
I am very, very far away from this case. Never heard of it before and I am German. But it really moves me. I have a child myself, never ever thought something like this could happen when my boy went to a holiday with the kindergarden or a travel to a foreign country later at school. It is the worst I can think of, to lose a child this way. I could not survive it and my heart goes out to this women who tells us now, how she feels, what she thought, almost expected. What a sad experience in life. I feel with you.
You can NEVER trust a stranger(s) to care for your child under any conditions...even in Christian camps. I have learned to trust NOONE, including ministers & other "church" staff! The "youth minister" at the church I attended told me that he could not work a regular job due to "major depression & anxiety" yet he is allowed to take kids & oversee them at camp. And, the minister is fully aware of his condition!!
@@forreal245 I agree with you up to a certain point. The biggest danger is always within the own family. Fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, neighbors you know for years. But "religion" is something I never trsut anyway. They are dogmatic, cause war allover the world. Every religion! And everybody is soooo arrogant that they think the owe thr truth.
I am in the US and never heard of this case before. It is heartbreaking to be sure. I am glad that monster had a heart attack. At least he will not be able to hurt anybody else. The criminals of the US court system failed those girls and their families.
@@tonyprice2256 Oh Tony, if you only had an idea about the German sytems of law and judgement. Our police works really very hard and pretty good I think but as soon as it comes to punishment and the judges...you would not believe it. A lot of people are criminal on purpose and intend to be caught, because our jail is better than their homes. They get full board, a warm room, studies for free and medical treatments, while the victims have to wait for trauma therapie up to two years and longer here in Berlin. I really know that, I am a reg. nurse and have many years of experience....Regards from Berlin
@@hollyhope7227 God Bless All Germans! Such CLEAN, INTELLIGENT, HARD WORKING PEOPLE! Love, from the USA.
As a Cherokee woman who is an US Army veteran, I have read about the three caves he had hidden out in. I have learned that he had relatives who were '"holy men" in that particular area. Learned about the black magic that was used to protect that monster. About those young girls that were there to learn positive things to help their fellow man. No matter The color or creed. How there was a heavy concentration of traffic in and out of that Camp area. He escaped twice and was acquitted? May The creator have mercy on anyone's souls that was involved in that horrid crime against children. You would not catch me anywhere near that unholy land. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
The criminals of that court system betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
You sound as crazy as agent Pratt. It was hilarious here watching idiots chasing birds in trees like they could change into a man. Meanwhile the real killers helped search. 😂😂
Yes… they say he could shapeshift into different animals, which helped him hide out so long !
@@truthseeker6045🙄
Him dying in prison wasn't good enough. I hope the family get answers
Mrs. Farmer is an incredibly strong and brave woman.
I'm from Tulsa. I lived in west Tulsa and went to Daniel Webster H.S. 14yrs after this happened. My parents moved us from Texas. Even that long after this happened, my mom was told this story and kept protective eyes on me and my sister. My sister was 4yrs old and I was almost 16. This was a heartbreaking 💔 story.
them were Lori Lee Farmer (8), Doris Denise Milner (10), and Michelle Heather Guse (9).[5]
I was 10 years old living in Lowell Arkansas when this happened and I remember every detail like it was yesterday. My family moved back to Georgia when I was going into 8th grade and I had a friend, Tonya that was one of 3 girls murdered around Richland Georgia. I pray for these victims and their families and loved ones. Loris mom did NOT fail her at all.
I can't imagine what's like for that councillor to be living with the thought that she could have saved them. Gives me shivers just thinking about it
That, or she herself could have been a victim. You never know. That is a heavy guilt to carry, especially when you're innocent 😕 😞 😢 😔
she probably would have been killed as well!
@@quietstorm1050 If I am watching kids and they are in danger, me and who or whatever endangers them go to war. It's that simple. At minimum she could have checked on all the kids.
@@winstonjones7519 Agree. And she could ask other counselor to accompany her. The children are theirs responsibilities
There are some cases that really haunt me, and this is one.
That Camp was a Dump. All those children and no Night Security, that's negligent !!!. So tragic . RIP sweet Children 💐❤🙏
Exactly what I said !!! It was a damn Pedophiles dream unbelievable
Back then, there probably was not a camp with security. It would scare a mother spitless today, to see what kids were up to back then.
Agreed same thing i was thinking what a dump!
Many camps just like that one operated for more than 100 years without any incidents like that.
@@tonyprice2256 Times have changed !!. No Excuse for the lack of security on the camp ground, especially if young children are on the promises !!!. You're foolish or a Pedophile if you think otherwise !!!.
Sherri DID NOT fail as a mom. The killer of these innocent girls FAILED as a humsn being.
Rest in Forever Peace, Lori, Denise and Michele. I'm sorry that all who love these three beautiful souls have to miss them.
I just watched this video again and even though it's been 45 years, I'm astonished over the strength of Mrs. Farmer.
I cried like a little girl when my dog died. Yet somehow this woman is able to carry on.
Our judicial system isn't perfect but it's the best our world has to offer.
Just learning about this case a few months ago, I wasn't on the jury to hear all the details but...
The little bit I do know is there was a mountain of circumstantial evidence against Mr. Hart, yet he was acquitted of all charges. There must be good reason for that.
Logic suggests the likelihood of more than one attacker.
As such, the case can't be closed until every detail is known.
Just stumbled upon this channel and immediately subscribed. I love how it's made, shocked it doesn't have more likes/subscribers.
How sad for the families. I’ve never lost a child but my fiancée was murdered in front of me one night during a home invasion and his case remains unsolved. It’s a terrible thing.
Im sorry....
Ask the Holy Spirit for justice!
Thank you so much.
❤omgosh I'm so sorry 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much.
So 1 man was able to keep 3 girls quiet while he did horrifically painful torture and murder? No way. There was more than 1. He was the escape goat for the rest. He wasn't alone.
Little girls, knife, ropes! Who knows!!!
Heartbreaking… I’m glad internet reviews are a thing now. Granted horrible things still happen and we cant always stop it but it would have been SO helpful for these parents to have known the issues Camp Scot had been facing, before sending their kids there.
Parent of 3, and I can say that the ONLY times my 2 eldest went a day and night w/o me, was when I was giving birth to their sibling. This was purely out of my own fear. 1) Because I was told I'd never have kids...so when I was blessed....I never wanted to miss a thing, and 2) Due to PTSD, from my childhood and early adulthood. This is one thing I don't think I could get over! Ever! God bless and work with these families!
Absolutely disgusting that Gene Hart got away with murder(s), quite literally. It is also disillusioning to a person like me who imagined that countries like the US and UK assured justice to victims of crime. My own naivete, l'm afraid....
My heart goes out to that lovely lady, Lori's mum: her love, her painstaking upbringing of her children, her heartbreak and yet, her immense courage. Salute you, ma'am, all the way from India.
The USA is infested with aggravated felony crime everywhere.
That's precisely why we all need & carry guns to protect ourselves & our families. No one is more important than the fathers in protecting families.
These unfortunate girls didn't have very good nor smart fathers.
All the bandits of the world love to "immigrate" to the US. Not a coincidence.
Who says he got away with it? He now has to answer to the ultimate judge and he can't have a heart attack to get out of it
You're Naive to your own country too
Day camp wasn't well supervised when I was growing up the 60's. Some kids would walk a quarter mile to the railroad bridge on the tracks and watch trains pass underneath.
So bottom line, had the camp and local law enforcement took the threats the camp was getting seriously BEOFE and let the parents know this may not have happened. I can’t understand why they would brush off those threats where kids would be staying.
Possibly because it might have been common for remote camp grounds to be tampered with in the off season. It’s too easy to judge from a distance without knowing the routines of that area. But yes, more reporting and more camp security during the overnight stays would have been a better plan.
@@christoffesedao3579 Hindsight is always 20/20. Many camps just like this one operated for 100 years with no incidents.
I just cannot imagine the pain of these Mothers. Especially Denise’s Mother. Knowing that her younger daughter had a bad premonition, and Denise herself didn’t want to go and felt uncertain about it. But mostly the fact that Denise was the last to die, and her final words on earth were calling out for her Mother. I just can’t even fathom. My God 💔
Horrible, I can't imagine the pain in their lives all these years. It's sad for kids in their 50s to start losing their parents it's the natural order,but losing your baby is just unnatural.
@@marysunshine5587 I'm 58 y.o. and lost my dear dad in 2021 and my daughter was stillborn in 1995. My mom is still here.....84 with moderate dementia. They had 65 years together!! 😊 Losing my daughter was such a DEEP pain!! Losing my dad was like losing my past and my firm foundation in life. We had a son in 1996 who is very loving to us!! 😊 I'm SO proud of us for sticking together after her passing!! Had we not.....we never would have had our wonderful son. 😊 I know they are both with the Lord. ❤
This case is so moving. I remember Girl Scout camp from elementary-middle school I had an amazing time BUT I HATED CAMP! The water smelled so bad, showers were cold, lake had scary creatures, food was GROSS, and the cabins/tents still only had screens as the upper walls and wood as the lower wall and floor, oh and the cemetery with the directors daughters dollhouse grave made me want to run until I got back home. Every noise I heard I just knew I wouldn’t make it through the night ! I can’t imagine that actually happening and at that time (98- early 200’s) the directors were still short on chaperones so we had four little girls in one little hut 😢
Ugh, that sounds terrible.
What drives a person to go out & murder 3 innocent children for no reason, oh my gosh! It's heartbreaking & senseless!
The criminals of that court betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
I hope that creep’s supporters have suffered for their actions, he had a history of abusing women and he still had people defending him. Disgusting people.
I like that mom she knew her rights as a victim
Yeah. Fuck that DA! Fuck all the criminals of the court system!
A cover up is written all over this. The "low, guttural growl" initially in the woods was never brought up again.
How does that point to a coverup? Maybe it was just a bullfrog, but it stuck out to the counselor bc she got up?
Around this time there were a lot of miscreant type things happening in the news with murdered and disappeared children. Sometimes these cases are indeed cover ups for different “groups” wanting and doing what they want and or sacrificing these children for many reasons. Please look into ritual abuse done to children more specifically SRA.
Please dont use real life tragedies to fit your narrative of "coverups" and "conspiracies".
This is real not something to be glorified to fit your ideologies.
Yeah, what was that?
We will never know.
What I never understood was why you'd walk away knowing there MAY be an animal nearby. We were taught to get other counselors and then do a headcount. I guess times have changed maybe because of what happened here?
From what i read the 60s and 70s things are done recklessly. Maybe due to the circumstances at that time with a lot are seeking freedom and happiness. Carefree life. The camp did not even have fence and no one patrol at night!
@@travelerforever8849 And that camp and many other just like it operated this way for more than 100 years without any incidents.
The people in charge of the camp were very brainless in this case. There were many signs that the camp should not take place, but did they listen? Of course not. I feel the anger and sadness of their families. May those innocent girls rest in peace.
What a lovely lady Lori’s mother is, the system failed your daughter, not you. Such a horrendous case.
“The Growl” … one question: If your child was in a tent nearby and you were one of those IN CHARGE, would you have gone back to bed after hearing a growl and all kinds of strange noises? Or would you act quickly to protect the children?
I would go check it. You’re in charge of the protection of children. What type of question is this?
@@Sigma2HisAlpha The question is meant to highlight the fact that growls and noises were heard by a woman camp counselor, but the woman went back to bed.
@@lifeofleather4718 oh ok lol I read it in a different way like what?! I personally think she should have tried to go get the other counselors or something. At the very least attempt to check on the girls in the tents. It just didn’t seem like a safe environment period how the tents were set up
@@Sigma2HisAlpha Haha I wrote that kind of hard to understand! Yes, I completely agree with you. In this situation, especially with the distance between tents being so far, other adults should have been alerted.
The counselor was most likely 17-19 years old, so they were just a kid themselves. It’s the Girl Scouts fault they set these people up for failure. If It happened today it would be a multimillion dollar lawsuit.
that noise part was probably the creepiest thing in this story, gave me the chills
The counselor who heard that sound has since worked with a team who had her listen to various sounds to try and determine what she heard. She locked in on a doe grunting at a fawn. And given the time of the year that wouldn't be out of place in the middle of a wooded area in Oklahoma. The women Hart plead guilty to SA in 1966 never mentioned Hart making a sound (one of the women was even asked during the pre-trial in 1966 about noises and sounds she could hear since she was allegedly blindfolded and not once did she ever mentioned Hart making an animalistic sound while under oath.)
@@notsure4878 Oh thank goodness it was probably an animal.
I pictured that "thing" Hart making noises.
I thought it was the sounds of a child dying
the Hulu documentary about this is called Keeper of the ashes. Much more detailed and very good.
The new documentary does a horrible job of retelling the events. The original documentary "Someone Cry For The Children" can be watched on RUclips and it goes into more detail. It is based on a book written by the Wilkerson brothers who were OSBI detectives that helped work the case.
Wow.. i worked in a GS camp in summer of 1987, 1988, 1989 and 19990... the tents were identical.. how creepy.. we used to hear people at night on private trails around the outside of camp.. i feel sorry for that counselor that found the girls..
The tents and cots are still the same today..
Excellent coverage, I have saw this on other shows . The devil on earth. Those beautiful girls. My prayers to there familys
I understand her heartbreak. I am so sorry.
They re-examined the dna it shows hart was the killer
No it did not. That is what some of the newspaper articles say or imply but it can only be said accurately that the DNA points to him as a rapist. No evidence he was also the killer
It says they couldn't exclude him from it
No, they couldn't exclude him from it, but could not confirm. It does not show or prove he was the killer. Only evidence that LEADS to him perhaps being the killer. DNA evidence did not prove he was. Do not fudge information.
I can understand why Denise Milner wanted to go home. Little girls left alone in a loose tent? If I were a kid, I would want a grown up with us. A man just opens the back tent and starts beating the girls over the head?
I remember when this happened. It was unbelievable for the time. Or at least I though it was. So sad for the families. I never liked the way the camp looked. It looked like a place waiting for something bad to happen. Karla Wilhite heard weird noises outside and didn't do a headcount of the kids? If I have kids around I want to know how they are and where they are at all times. Especially in a camp setting. I had family around Locust Grove. They heard the same thing, Hart wouldn't do that to kids. Seems like he did if you ask me. If I remember right there was a reward for bringing Hart in if you could find him. Also he had been in contact with AIM. And he faced 305 years in prison regardless of the court outcome. I wish for healing of the families. Sad beyond belief.
I never heard of this case before, and it was a truly heartbreaking story. The criminals of that court system betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
I’ve never heard of this case and this is just so awful man. This had to be a camp counselor of an adult that worked for the camp and had access or a local that had been stalking this particular campsite waiting for his chance. It’s crazy to think those little souls were being brutalized when the camp counselor heard the sounds smh.
I never heard of this case before either. It was a truly heartbreaking story. The criminals of that court system betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
Right! That noise was clearly sexual moans. Those babies was probably getting brutalized while she was looking in that direction. Wish she would’ve gotten help to investigate…probably could’ve saved them, or at least caught him.
you did not fail your child. The people at camp, thge prosecution and the judge failed your familes. Those people at the camp new something bad was going on and said nothing.
Mrs. Farmer you are not a failure. In any way shape or form. You are a wonderful mom. Much love and peace of mind to you and all the families. ❤
I think that their first mistake is assuming that it was only one person that did this. I wholeheartedly believe that Jean Leroy Hart was involved and I believe that he didn’t act alone. There’s just too much that adds up against him. I think that the fingerprint and the other evidence that was found was that of his accomplice. I also think that anyone who ever went to defend this man after what he did to those pregnant women How about as evil as he is and flat out stupid. I also believe that the jury is right there with them all for having not found that monster guilty. I hope that he suffered as much as possible when he passed.
The criminals of that court betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
I can not believe the police did not solve that case
It was Hart and they knew it was Hart. The jury just didn’t.
The police was in on it
My heart breaks for these mothers and families.
I can't even comprehend this sort of wickedness.
God bless these families 💙
What they don’t tell you about Hart was the day he died of a ‘heart attack’ was his first day that he was placed in the general population. Coincidence?
I'm so sorry for these families and others that go through these things.
Love and light to our babies and their loved one's 💞🕊️💝
Such a horribly unorganised camp. More like a dumping ground. Patents ...keep your children protected and by your side for as long as possible. It's a predetory world out there.
Thank you. My thoughts exactly
Mrs H ... I honestly don't know what got these mother's and father's through ... I can't even begin to know the pain and devastation that losing a child in such an horrific way ... RIP girls and love and hugs to the parents of these baby girls...🇬🇧💔
I was 7yrs old back then. This is every parents nightmare. There's a special place in hell for thgpg
i only learned of this case last year, i was not born when all this happened, poor children
Crimes against children are the worst😔😞
He escaped from the same jail twice? What mor0ns were in charge? damn!!! What a biased trial....the guy was a predator...his family and supporters must be so proud!
I know right? Did he have some help from a guard at that jail?
Every time I watch an upload on RUclips, my jaw drops in absolute shock that these sorts of things have even occurred! WOW, so sorry to all that were affected by this. R.l.P. 😇😇😇
I was a 9 year old boy in Tulsa when this occurred. While I didn't know any of the girls involved, the fact that it happened so close and to kids that were my age was terrifying to me. I'd never really been exposed to something like that before and I still remember the visceral reaction I had to these stories. Just a horrible crime and I feel so sorry for those families.
The DNA is inconclusive and the case is still open, according to Sheriff Reed.
This is really hard for me to watch, knowing what I know about the case. I spent thousands of hours researching the case while writing Sheriff Paul Smith’s story (Shattered Justice), and much of what is presented here is flat out wrong. I am happy to share what I have if anyone is interested. I have the private case files of Sheriffs Weaver and Smith. I also located Hart’s 1966 rape victims. In my humble opinion, the only way this case will be solved is to bring in investigators that aren’t already tainted with the incorrect information, which seems to be repeated over and over.
Camp Scott was evacuated and was later shut down.
Should've been burned down
I watch a youtuber going around that place ..there is nothing left.
I never heard of this but wow this is a good informative video about it rest in peace beautiful angels
I was 5 at the time and growing up 2 hours away in Ponca City. I didn’t learn of this until I was an adult. My parents shielded my brother and me very well.
How could the powers let this camp go ahead after the warnings were left there in the first place . Bloody dills .
What warnings? All I can surmise is that from the photos, it looked as if the camp had no fence around it. Anyone could've just walked through it! I guess back then, things were much more relaxed? Hart escaped from prison and found a cave to lurk in. That was probably when he noticed the camp was full of little girls. Sickening.
@@susiearviso3032 As the video says , someone left notes in the camp ground prior to the kids camp . Please listen again and get back to me . Thanks.
@@susiearviso3032 Did you miss the warning signs again. The people in charge ignored the message that was left….
This is a sad story i can not understand what makes a man want to commit such a brutal crime against these poor defenceless young children why couldnt he try and pick on a man?
Because cowards darnt approach adults, sad case
These sickos get satisfaction through control and domination so they almost always choose the easiest victims they can find, which are sadly children.
whyyyyyy in THE WORLD would 3 extremely little girls be left in the woods in an unlocked tent with paper thin curtains for doors with no adult all night long!!!!! Who planned this set up?!! They should have been held accountable as well?!! How could you be so careless with beautiful little innocent vulnerable children….ughhh just heartbreaking
Horrible, Horrific, and Sad. The fact that the threats weren’t shared with anyone is telling. Rest in power to the three little angels 😇 😇😇🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🕊️🕊️🕊️🌹🌹🌹💐💐💐
when u hear ur love ones has died u cant believe it at first but later on u will realize it its painful
I love your kitty!
This tore me up and I can’t imagine the hurt those families endured. God don’t like ugly and ended up ending his life as well
The criminals of that court system betrayed those girls and their families. I am glad this monster had a heart attack. At least he wasn't able to hurt anybody else ever again.
😢😢😢 this is so sad 😔 I have a 10 yrs old daughter and I can't imagine how I would feel if something happened to her 😢sorry for those families loss 😢