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Lex has never been psychotic like Joker. He's a bald, insanely smart, stoic, calm and collected businessman. Nothing like Eisenberg is in this movie, but also nothing like Alex is expecting Lex to be.
Exactly! He's been a businessman, an arrogant a-hole, but never crazy or fully unhinged. My personal favorite version of Lex is from All-Star Superman. A human, a genius, a billionaire--with all the self-confidence and human failings that come with it. There's something to be said about a man who feels he is made less, that it is patently unfair for an alien to be this pinnacle of power without having to work for it like he had to. My second favorite is likely Rosenbaum's Lex from Smallville. A potential brother, a best friend, an abused child looking for connection, feelings of personal betrayal? Anything but this
Lex HAS been that way but only when under the influence of another being or drug, take when Brainiac used Lex as an incubator or when he was juicing himself up with that crazy kryptonite steroid thing he made and he was roiding out 😂
I think what this movie was going for was making him into like, a pretentious Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos type of character, which I honestly don't think is a bad idea in concept, but the issue is that they leaned too much into the whole "pretentious god complex" aspect, which just made him seem unhinged and ridiculous. Methinks with a better script or better direction, this version of the character could have had more going for it.
38:45 If you remove the safety pin and don’t let go of the lever you can put the safety pin back. But if you let go of the lever the fuze will ignite and there is no turning back
Superman knew exactly who he was when he was listening at Lex Luthors party. He just waited until Batman was out active again. How do you think you found him so easily?
@@Terp311wrong, Superman knew exactly who he was at Luthors party. He could hear everything. He waited to catch Bruce in action which is why he found him so easily
A lot of people assume Alfred is supposed to be weak and old, but in the comics, that's not really the case. In most versions, Alfred served in the British Armed Forces or worked in intelligence, which gave him combat skills, medical training, and tactical knowledge. As for his age, he’s usually portrayed as being in his late 50s to early 60s in most iterations.
@@xtheregulator42x This movie was released a little more than a week before JDM's first episode as Negan. He had been John Winchester since 2005. Plus, he was in Zack Snyder's Watchmen as the Comedian.
The Batman that Affleck is portraying is based widely on the Frank Miller character from his graphic novel. The suit you see that has “jokes on you” is from when Joker killed Robin. This Batman is older, has been fighting crime in Gotham for 20 years and has lost his moral compass. You should watch the animated movie Batman: Return of the Dark Knight parts one and two. You will see why Batman has no issue killing. Hope that helps, as always Great reaction!
Exactly that movie is so good and so are all the other DC animated movies. That version of Batman isn’t my favorite I like the more agile and younger Batman with strict morals but i can respect this version and Affleck fits the look perfectly
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 That's a fair point, but Batman's origin has been so used in the past in film that I thought it was a good idea to do a different version of Batman.
I agree. Smallville had a lot of what I consider the "gold standard" for some of the Superman characters. Which for me were Lex, Martha, and Johnathan. All of which were played perfectly by their respective actors.
@ I had to replay it 3 times to make sure I wasn’t going crazy like him I get eating apple with TEH skin on I don’t but ok fair enough but an orange ? ok i guess 😂😂
38:46 The pin of the hand grenade is a lock, the handle is the fulminant, when you remove the lock you can put it back on if you have not released the handle, once you release the handle without the lock on, you release the fulminant and after approximately 5 seconds it will activate the explosive charge. In summary: Yes, you can remove the pin but once you release the handle there is no turning back.
Eisenberg could’ve been an amazing RIDDLER, imagine replacing lex’s character with The riddler, it could’ve been much more fun and fitting for Eisenberg eccentric personality
I think Eisenberg could have even been a good Lex. He's a strong actor, he's got the look after his head was shaved. They should have just toned down the insanity
I hate how people are too annoyed by that he isn't acting like a Lex and more like a Joker and Riddler, but they don't give a shift when Marvel tone down serious and powerful characters and made them a joke.
@ like who? Plenty of people have been upset by ultron, malekith, abomination, modok, the mandarin, and so forth. Lex just stands out amongst bad portrayals because it is SO off and was a factor in the failure of a disappointing film that started the downward turn of a new cinematic universe. Yeah, ultron should have been far more insane, but he didn’t derail the MCU’s trajectory. There’s a difference
27:40 Old as Alfred is (usually 60-70), he can still kick ass. He’s shot aliens with a shotgun, gone after invaders in the batcave, and is all the more dangerous than (usual) Batman since he doesn’t share his no-kill rule.
13:26 - So, the Joker painted message on the armor isn't just a reference to the Joker, it's also a reference to one of the comics where Joker kills Robin, Batman's second, his partner in crime. It leaves a really bad scar on Bruce, he's never the same after he loses Robin. Do yourself a favour and watch the scene again, watch Batfleck's acting, it's one of the best scenes in this movie if you understand why he's so angry right there.
@@brutusjudas5842 Yeah it's such a shame. The showing I was at people applauded and cheered at her entrance. Can't imagine the excitement level if it wasn't spoiled. :)
Alfred is plenty old enough, and he's not supposed to be a helpless old man. Alfred is only around 25 years older than Bruce, and Alfred is also a bad ass former British Royal Air Force who also worked for MI6.
Tom Holkenborg (AKA Junkie XL) gets slept on a lot, too. He worked on ZSJL solo and that score is phenomenal. And he had a big hand in helping to craft this movie’s score, too. They work great together.
Man I still listen to so many of the DCEU scores even though I definitely am not a fan of the movies. Snyder has a gift for making some moments shine even if he can't get the whole movie to work and when you have good 'moments' and add Zimmer? Magic. Man of steel music never fails to move me.
Alex really said he didn’t get any of the Superman origin in MOS?? 😅 The opening scene is literally 5 minutes of his origin, then the flashbacks throughout. Gota love Alex
@@B-DadSmallville is not an indication of what Snyder was going for. There’s so many ways to do a Superman origin story and Snyders looked hardcore and almost depressing compared to The series.
@ It’s over. The evil Snyder can’t hurt you anymore 😂😂😂 I just meant I know of Clark’s family and the lore. It’s always different but I’m sure there was plenty of same there too. But yeah even what we saw wasn’t really Smallville feeling.
When Iron Man came out with the tease for building to an Avengers film, DC was asked if they had any similar plans. Their response was no, their heroes were iconic and had no need to team up (even though there is that Justice League thing in the comics). Flash forward a few years when Avengers makes over a billion at the box office... NOW they decide they need to go that route. Unfortunately, instead of wanting to establish each hero on their own and build to the big team up, they had a 'we need to catch up to Marvel quick' mentality and rushed everything. DC/ WB only have themselves to blame.
I don’t think it was bad. Man of steel BVS and The Synder cut was an amazing trilogy and they should’ve expanded from there like they wanted to but yall hated BVS which caused them to change 2017 Justice league
I blame people who hate this film because a gf we Zach Synder left it gave WB the green light to butcher the justice league. Man of steel BVS and the Synder Cut it a great trilogy and they could’ve had the solo movies after like they wanted to. They didn’t need to follow the mcu, just run their own pace and they tried but they didn’t trust Synder because a lot of people didn’t understand what he was doing
@@tmac731It wasn’t as terrible as some people make it out to be, but both MoS and BvS are fundamentally not good because they do injustice to each of their respective characters, namely in the fact that both Batman AND Superman do not kill, period. I know what they were going for with the seriousness of Superman killing Zod, but they still needed to find a way to have him beat Zod without killing him. In the OG Superman 2, they find a way to trap Zod and his crew in some crazy prison. I think it would’ve been cool to have a callback to that. Then, I do understand that Batman had been done 3 times up until this point on the big screen. But to establish why this particular Batman is so dark and jaded and unlike the others, we need more than some expository dump.
@@tmac731For example, the Robert Pattinson Batman was absolutely fantastic for establishing the character, and it matches perfectly with Batman Year One where he’s extremely moody and aggressive. However, it only works for one movie, if they try to do that again if they do a sequel, it won’t work.
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 it's even worse when you consider how they've sometimes explained it in comics and animation before. Superman can literally hear EVERYTHING, and just focuses on whatever sounds are most important at the time. if he hears an entire group of people screaming in terror at once or a series of massive explosions, that's the issue that takes precedence over one individual scream, for example. in the issue of Lois Lane, he literally can recognize her voice as distinct and considers her top priority, Barring an impending world ending catacysm. the same SHOULD apply to Martha Kent, and a more comic accurate Clark would likely have intervened when she was first kidnapped.
The horse is there because a lot of major cities have police horses instead of motorcycle cops. Horses can get up around traffic and on sidewalks/down alleys. Metropolis is based on NYC, which still has a major mounted police force.
Some cool things about this version of Lex Luthor: 1. Zack wanted a modern time ceo type for Lex Luthor, which is why he went the Mark Zuckerberg route (and actually hired the guy who played Zuck) - smart, power hungry, influential in the government and media. 2. His theme song is the MOS theme song but backwards
To explain the Chamber. In this version of the story, Kryptonians are no longer born. A decision is reached as to what *type* of person is needed for a particular task and the genetic material from two people who are best disposed to that task are combined in the chamber to tailor the resultant child to be what is needed. Zod, for instance, was literally bred to be a warrior in such a manner. However, if you're not careful, or screw around with the genetic material, you can create some truly monstrous beings with unpredictable and terrible power.
With a grenade- once the pin is pulled the “safety” has been disengaged. As soon as the hand lever releases past a certain point the ignition has already begun making its way to the explosive payload, within. You could pull the pin and potentially hold the grenade as long as you want. But as soon as the fulcrum of that hand lever progresses far enough that “fuse” gets lit.
It got rated R for the F bombs and the scene in the hearing room after the explosion showing Superman just standing there. Those were cut from the theatrical version.
@ been a while since I watched it myself but I’m pretty sure there’s the explosion and then later you see him helping the victims outside. Might have to watch it again. But it’s such a muddled mess I don’t know if I want to subject my to it.
@@bradleewalsh7676 - yes it's in the theatrical release. NO bodies being incinerated or pieces of humans flying around in explosion scene that needed to be cut.
Wait, Man of Steel shows Krypton at the beginning of the movie and how Zod wasn't listening to Jor-el about the death of the planet. They even show Kal-el being sent off to Earth. No origin story?
he means, Superman didnt get an origin story arc. He was just thrust into it in the first movie, and never knew what he was doing. Superman's origin story was supposed to be Man of Steel, BVS and ZSJL. That was his "Hero's Journey".
@@passionsquietrage I mean, there's literaly a scene where theres at least two guys in a car, batman rips it to pieces with the batmobiles machine gun and then drives THROUGH it blowing the car up. If they can survive that, then they are the real superheros of the film lol
15:14 - This Lex was quite enough for me. I feel like many people are too focused on whatever they knew before upon tapping into something new. Also I love how Lex jokes about Sups and Bats (and hints Batman to investigate his R&D) right in their faces knowing perfectly well that those two have no idea.
40:32 Well, he's not quite human, he's a monster called Doomsday. About 2x stronger than Superman in all live and animated films and comics. It is meant for killing, brutality without a hint of mercy. It's just a movie, but the writers somehow didn't understand the fact that if Lex is really a "genius", then how he wants to solve the problem that arises after Superman's death. What will happen to the world if Doomsday exists on it
1. I love seeing the DCU through the eyes of non-fans who see it like it actually is. 2. Lex was never like the Joker. He is not supposed to be insane. He is a genius that fears Superman will one day take over and is hyper focused on killing him before he can. 3. If they had only added "Save my mother, Martha Kent, save Martha"...it would stopped the literal flood of tears from bitchy fans that harshly judged the movie and not made that scene as cringe as it was. 4. Yes, in the comics their mothers names were both Martha. 5. There is no "I think Batman would team up", Batman was always a loner AND this is before the Justice League which formed out of a "need" to be able to take on stronger villain's. That is why the movie is "The Dawn of Justice". IE: The need for the Justice League. 6. The "monster" is supposed to be Doomsday and in the comics....Doomsday kills Superman in "The Death of Superman". But. Will he rise again? 7. This is the Batman after Robin is beaten to death by the Joker...he is broken. Dark and more extreme. 8. The "thing" that is missing is that Warner Bros wanted to do in 3 movies what the MCU did over 12...build a cinematic universe. Snyder was forced to make this 2 part script into 1 and then do the same with the next movie, Justice League all while turning down the idea that Superman needed another movie and that the Wonder Woman, Flash and Cyborg movies should be released BEFORE this one.
The "Martha" scene isn't cringe at all, people just misunderstood it and got triggered for some reason. Also, it shouldn't matter when the movies were released. There's nothing wrong with introducing characters before their movies are made. The MCU did it with Black Panther and Spiderman. And there's a version of Lex in the comics that's like he is in this movie. Yet, people either don't know that or have forgotten.
Of course you only really needed Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, movies before the team up movies started, just like Marvel only really needed Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, and Captain America before their big team up... It is OK to introduce some character IN the team up movie...
@@jamesraykenney Iron Man had 2. Hulk was already Established with several iterations. Introducing Thor and Cap basically set up a team in fans eyes since Iron Man 2 also had War Machine, Natasha Romanoff and Nick Fury in it...plus the Agents of Shield show was on TV setting up the Avengers movie. So I will disagree that just doing a Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman film would have been enough especially since Snyder himself said he had 2 scripts and wanted The Flash and Cyborg coming in to help stop Doomsday who was also written very differently for this single film. BTW...Brainiac was completely cut out of the script and Luther was made the creator of Doomsday. Brainiac was going to be the computer on Zods ship making it more in line with one of the comics iterations of the character.
I'm just curious, what made him feel more like the comic book character? The fact that he murders people with guns, ritualistically tortures people, wakes up next to random women with no real explanation, or that he has somehow developed the super power of prophetic dreaming? He's without a doubt the least comic book accurate Batman. But to be fair, this script also split Lex Luthor in half and mixed one half with Batman and the other half with the Riddler. The whole movie really wanted to be a Frank Miller story but it was written by someone who has decidedly far less talent than Frank Miller.
@kylekillpack2272 I feel his fight scenes like the warehouse scene it felt like something from a comic book the way he fighting and the way he’s super big and opposing he maybe the least comic accurate one but the other Batman they fight scenes just don’t hit like his.
@@kylekillpack2272 Well if you look at the earliest comic iterations of batman he did indeed kill and used guns. It was changed to the "no kill, no guns" later on but originally, yes, Batman did use guns and killed. Also the Batman that is portrayed in Zack Snyder's movies is based off of Frank Millers Dark Knight series which the movie did a solid job at doing. Therefore Ben Affleck's adaptation of Batman was one of, if not the most comic accurate physically and mentally comparing to the original Batman comics and the frank miller Dark knight series this is specifically based off of. I don't understand why people complain about the killing/guns and his mentality in the film when all it takes is a quick 5 min google search lol. You people expect some perfect portrayal of a character which is not possible. Someone will always have something negative to say and in no way am i saying this Batman is perfect but in no way was he a horrible adaptation... People just say that cause of the DC bandwagon hate that came for no reason.
@@etherealvisual3699 if you actually read the original Batman comics when he did kill, you would still know that Affleck Batman isn't the most accurate version. And those comics didn't even last long, btw. They ended well before Robin was introduced in issue #38. And most of the villian deaths were more a case of Batman not saving them from their own mistakes ala Bale Batman than this one. So... Have fun with the coping and your massive logic leaps, but reality is literally otherwise.
thats not the actual doomsday (snyder confirmed it). when the ship says thing part about not ever creating another deformity (or whatever) it was referring to the real doomsday, this was just something similar
44:38 I think that AngryJoe pretty much summed up this and the ending of the film as a whole: _I wanna see the Justice League at his funeral, but now I can't!_ _I wanna see a hero slowly stripped of his life in the ultimate battle instead of just simply being stabbed in one swoop, but now I can't!_ _I wanna build a connection with _*_THIS_*_ Superman the same way he built a connection with me in hundreds of different stories, but now I can't!_ _I want to fear that this might be the last time that Superman doesn't make it back, but now I can't!_ _There were thousands of comics before Superman died. You had him in two movies and you killed him in two movies! You barely even focused on him! You know what I wanna see? I wanna see you _*_EARN_*_ Superman's death! This isn't Jimmy Olsen, this is damn Superman! He deserves your time and respect!_
@@passionsquietrage You're in here defending this movie *hard* no matter what people say about it. Even my favourite movie has flaws, and so does yours.
World's Finest, Parts One & Part Two from Superman: The Animated Series (1997) does a far superior job of portraying the first meeting between Superman and Batman. This storyline sees the Joker arriving in Metropolis and forming an alliance with Lex Luthor. Bruce Wayne's arrival in Metropolis leads to a tense start with Clark Kent, thanks Bruce asking Lois out for dinner. Batman and Superman then meet in a strip club, Superman discovering Batman's true identity. Batman then discovers Superman's identity by tracking Superman back to Clark's apartment, again no physical just both characters being mental games on each other along with Bruce trying to make Clark a little jealous by dating Lois for a little while. Batman leaves Metropolis as an ally to Superman. There's no Superman's death or underwhelming introductions of key DC characters. The Batman (2004) also had a really fun first meeting between Batman and Superman, heavily inspired by the story above just with its own spin. Both are so much better than what we got in this film.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is this version of an older jaded Batman with a dead Robin is largely based on Frank Miller's portrayal in the classic game changing comic The Dark Knight Returns, including the fight with Superman where Batman wears a similar metal suit and puts the beatdown on Supes, although under very different circumstances. I hope you check out Justice League Snyder cut.
stay away from the non-Snyder cut - I didn't mind it, but it was super disjointed and confusing - the Snyder cut is worth two episode, the movie is so long.
unpopular opinion but this was my favorite "movie batman" he is a seasoned batman that has been through years of dealing with the worst of the worst and no longer pulls his punches
Affleck is fantastic as batman all around. Batman is one of the harder superheroes for an actor to play, because you have to play two distinct characters, Batman and Bruce are NOT the same person and require you to really flex your acting ability, and bruce is often masking himself with yet another persona. Keaton was a decent Batman, but was fantastic as the isolated, emotionally damaged and traumatized bruce wayne, for example. Clooney was decent at both, but trapped in a terrible film. Bale was far better at being batman than being bruce wayne. Affleck nails both sides of the character very well, and (in my opinion) has the same problem clooney did, in that he's trapped in a subpar film by a writer/director who doesn't really understand the characters he's creating. visually stunning films, don't get me wrong, but lacking in understanding of the substance of it all. i was really looking forward to the cancelled Affleck standalone Batman film, because it feels like Affleck really get's the character, and he's a fantastic director, so i had real high hopes for it.
Fr like the comic Batman that stays the same morally throughout decades of fighting crime in one of the most dangerous cities on Earth is completely unrealistic to how that would affect someone's mind. The closest the comics get to portraying the mental and emotional impact of that life is the time after [SPOILER] Jason's death, where he's much more careless and cruel than usual.Ben Affleck's Batman probably started out with the no-guns, no-killing rules, but unlike the comics he didn't keep that mindset as he progressed and saw more and more terrible crimes. Maybe he would've been less of a hardass if he's had a Robin in this universe, but he doesn't. There's no reason for him not to kill besides his own moral compass.
@@gourdguru I think Pattinson's Batman, while quite different from the comics (he doesn't pretend not to be emo), is also a good portrayal, especially since that's the first few years of his work as Batman. In the other Batman movies, and in most of the comics, he starts out his vigilante "career" with already great skills and planning. We get to see Pattinson's Batman make mistakes and learn from them.
So if you look closely at the desert situation. They piled all the body’s and burned them with a torch. Looking to frame Superman with burning the bodies. No bullets to frame Superman.
1:42 We've seen Thomas and Martha Wayne die so many times we can make a drinking game out of it. 6:37 I got to hand to Zack Snyder that first seen of Batman was perfect. The way he depicts Batman as this demonic creature straight outta a horror movie is so epic.
Jesse Eisenberg's portrayal of Lex Luthor was like a wet fart to the face. The dude is nickel and dime store Michael Cera for me and plays practically the same character in everything he does.
I think what a lot of people didn't realize at first was that Batman WAS a villain. In the beginning, Bruce was giving a metaphor about his life as Batman being "a beautiful lie". How everything used to be black and white, good and evil, but he sees that's not the case. This Batman is 20 years in the game. He's jaded and fed up. His arc in this movie is best summed up by Harvey Dent's line in The Dark Knight. "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." When Batman is reminded of his parents' death, he realizes he has now taken the role of his parents' killer. He decides to throw that away and turn a new leaf. Before, Bruce tells Alfred "How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?" After seeing Superman sacrifice himself, he's inspired to be better and tells Diana "Men are still good." Batman's arc in BvS is a redemption arc. From villain to returning hero.
I've never seen it that way, but when MoS came out I was hyped that DC movies were back and getting nice live action big budget films again. And the director of 300 as well? Sign me up. I also love the MCU as well. but strangely prefer Whedon's work there over what he did in JL. Snyder cut is much more in line with the first two films. Whedon colors his movies like they are literally out of comic panels. which imo works well in the avengers
@@johnohrstrom5112 I agree, this film and man of steel hold up really well compared to a lot of the MCU. they just have a different feel and tone to them that works well with how DC usually is. MCU has its peaks and valleys, and peak MCU i guess is pretty subjective, I know I adore Ultron because of James Spader as a stargate nerd myself, though that one gets debated a lot. it pretty much sets up the infinity saga in the same way as man of steel for justice league.
What I got from this movie, if a person who actively tries attack and murder me, then I should mention my mothers name because there is a chance that his mother could have the same name as my mom
The entire reason of Batman being who he is is because of his parents death, and to see someone who he sees as nothing but a monster trying to be a god, say that he only wants to save his mother that it makes him human after all, it’s just an added benefit that they have the same mothers name, which also makes it matter more because it’s also allows for him to relate to Superman in some way and that’s it’s meaning
@@seanoconnor8178That is BS. First thing, Clark never has called his mother by her name the entire movie. Now he suddenly does just to have Batman go "Wow, our moms have the same name" And the other thing. This also doesn't make sense since earlier Batman says "Your parents probably told you..." so he was aware (or at least was assuming) that Superman has parents. This movie has a lot of BS but that scene is the biggest of them all
@ of course he has parents but he thought that Superman never cared for humanity because of all the death that happened from man of steel, but when he humanized himself by putting his moms well being over his own rather he died or not it allowed Batman to see that other side of him where he cared for the human race. Sorry that you hate this movie, I personally think it’s a masterpiece. And no matter what I don’t think we will ever agree
yeah i know. i tried to fit it in the video but the scene leading up to it and after it made the video pacing a little slow, so i cut that shit out. sorry lol
@@abstruseoni The movie is more comicbook accurate than Nolan movies and yet people jizz when they talk about the Dark Knight. Comicbook accuracy is worthless.
@@abstruseoni learn to fucking read dude. it stops you from looking like an unhinged easily triggered geek. The comment the person wrote said MOST,. MOST. Not ALL. MOST. look up the dictionary for the world MOST. The claim made was NOT that ALL things were comic accurate. The dude said something completely different and you come in here like a weirdo saying NOT EVERYTHING was comic accurate. like grow up loser.
41:49 so in the comics, Doomaday gets stronger and spender by adapting to the things that the heroes throw at him. So in this case the nuke being shot at him gave him nuke like abilities.
My all time favorite Superhero film. There's plenty of emotional depth in the Snyderverse, there's just not any unnecessary exposition. Superman and Batman are the two most recognizable and well known superheroes in all of pop culture... We've gotten the full blown origin story a bunch... Personally, I like how we get an older Batman who's more brutal, a bit jaded, and honestly... More grounded and realistic. The way Ben Affleck stares at the suit like an alcoholic needing his bottle. The Snyderverse takes the concept of what it would be like to live in a world with superheroes... The grounded, serious tone is what I appreciate so much. The morality aspect of it... The nihilistic nature of characters vs the hopeful faithful nature of others... It makes for a deeper story with each character's ideologies etc... Marvel imo wastes time doing joke fests and not telling a deeper story, with the exception of stories told in shows like Daredevil and The Punisher. I'm really glad you saw and appreciated the true meaning behind the "Martha" scene... It's easily overlooked by some people. Also, the greatest fighting sequence is shown in this film: The warehouse fight sequence. The Robin costume is a direct nod to the fact that Joker killed him and kicked him by writing that on his burnt suit. When I first watched this, the only thing I wasn't initially sold on was Lex Luthor, but upon rewatches, I appreciate his character... He's the Lex before the iconic Lex... He's extremely nihilistic and psychotic, but he's not as collective as he becomes after this experience via this film. Overall, I love it and I hope to see your reaction to Zack Snyder's Justice League... Please DO NOT watch the abomination that was the Joss Whedon version.
This is the sort of review I wish people would listen to This guy is like the general audience, he clearly sees and knows that this film did not explain or show or focus on why or what made Batman became like The Punisher (which it should have focused on and dealt with).
It definitely did. It just wasn’t spoon fed to you with too much unnecessary dialogue and flashbacks. It’s all definitely there. It’s better to say you just wish Batfleck had a solo film before this movie to show his world right before the beginning of this one.
@@notyouraveragebear9326 there's this famous proverb : instead of offering too many hands to tocuh, offer a few to hold. The film clearly did not learn from this proverb
His Robin was murdered by joker..........that put him over the edge. Then he worked out that superman could destroy the planet, Its the only thing i do that matters..Hence anyone dying as a result of getting to that goal became fine. I think he only killed in that movie. Alfred saying "new rules" as batman was branding people would seem like a cake walk if he was murdering them ll the time
Everything you disliked about this version of Batman- was exactly how this Batman was meant to be portrayed. He is Older/jaded/and breaks the rules after years and years of well ya know
So the thing they fight at the end is called Doomsday a monster using the corpse of General Zod from the previous movie. His main thing is evolution/adapting. Which is why he keeps getting stronger and more difficult to kill.
A NON-SPOILER STORYTIME: Although the "extended version" of this movie was as long as it was... the studio refused to allow for Zack to create his completed universe which would've ultimately answered all questions and allow audiences to watch them in whatever order they wanted just like a nerd would with a comic book collection or just like people do with the MCU (watching them out of order, and still having them all make sense, due to all the information being there scattered throughout). Thus, the following movies are missing which could've beaten the MCU if they were given time to breathe: > Su*c*de Squad (the original script for the brutal R-rated 3-hour long action/thriller/horror team-up movie that was to introduce The Joker and a bunch of new characters that are all bad guys, including Harley Quinn) > Green Lantern (solo movie + backstory) > Batman (solo movie + proper backstory to how Bruce became "Old Man Bruce" like in the comics + Directed By Ben Affleck) > Man Of Steel 2 (explaining more backstory, and much more emotional character development) > Zack Snyder's Justice League 2 & 3 (Zack almost completed the 2nd film during production of the first one, and the footage only exists in his possession until the studio allows him to complete the rest of the movies. The 3rd film was a natural result of changing so much during the production of the already released films being released as they were due to studio interference) > The Flash (the version that was originally pitched and not the version we ultimately got) The studio in fact removed so much content, that in the next movie (Zack Snyder's Justice League), it was originally meant to be a 2-part cinematic epic, with both parts being roughly 4+ hours in length each. In the end, the best Zack could hope for was what he was allowed to create: > a single 143-minute Superman movie > a single 182-minute long Batman movie that was badly merged into a Batman VS Superman movie because the studio wasn't going to allow him to make a natural continuation > a single but extremely worthy team-up masterpiece in Zack Snyder's Justice League movie (the legacy of this film cannot be understated, as the studio wouldn't even let Zack Snyder grieve over the loss of his real-life daughter who took her own life during Production of the 2017 version of the Justice League movie, and as a result, the studio just handed that first version of the film over to Joss Weadon who didn't even wana do it. As a result of that, Joss changed the entire feel of every single character, their motivations, warped the story into a vomit-like cake, and didn't give us a proper conclusion to anything. The studio also forced Joss to cut the film to a 2 hour long runtime. In the end, the studio finally caved and Zack Snyder's Justice League finally happened a few years later, with 85% new footage, a 4+ hour runtime, and among some of the best fight scenes in all of DC - excluding the Dark Knight Trilogy). The remaining movies which ended up being removed from Snyder's control but were infact created for public consumption were the following: > Su*c*de Squad (the 2016 version we ended up getting was so tampered with, it's barely a shadow of its former self. The studio even ended up getting a music video editor to edit the complete film behind the Director's back just before the films release. The Director denounces the films existence to this very day. You can find heaps of the removed footage in all the trailers, music videos, and promitional material) > Aquaman (a hit with both critics and audiences) > Aquaman 2 (a missed opportunity) > Wonder Woman (to be fair, turned out to be a worthy entry if you finished before the final battle) > Wonder Woman 2 (a commerical and critical failure) > The Flash (another heavy missed opportunity that had good moments, but ultimately failed to do what it was originally set out to do in the original script)
That clown Whedon also hit back at Gal accusing him of being abusive by saying English was her second language. What's the matter Joss, won't she sleep with you scumbag. In buffy he was not allowed alone on set with Michelle Trachtenberg who played Dawn. She was 14 at the time.
TL;DNR My dude. Snyder is overrated. More complicated does not mean better. His direction and storytelling peaked with Suckerpunch. He buries rational narratives and emotional character building beneath his desire to be Michael Bay.
@@MercenaryMuse Your TL;DR doesn't even come close to what i was explaining. Beyond that, ignoring the fact that Suckerpunch sucked in general, the only version of Suckerpunch anyone should be watching, is the Extended Cut (a much more difficult version to find these days). And if a few extra minutes + a few new scenes aren't enough, that's because the movie was so restricted, censored, and cut down by the studio that Zack's still waiting to get the okay to release his Director's Cut (aka, his version of the actual movie that hasn't been tampered with by the studio). As goes for your imaginary version of Michael Bay - anyone with half a brain, knows he's an actual competent Writer and Director. Case and point; - Bad Boys 1 & 2 (Will Smith owes his action career to MB) - The Rock (Nicholas Cage owes MB for his action career too) - Pain and Gain - The Island And don't even bother mentioning movie that he's Produced but didn't Write or Direct. Being a Producer on a film gives you little say in what actually happens with the movie. Their biggest responsibilities are legal issues, shooting schedulling, financing, hiring talented people like writers and other folks on production, and lastly, commerical viability.
The close proximity to kryptonite causes him to weaken, significantly. The bullet that exploded in his face was kryptonite vapor, that he breathed in, causing him to weaken until all of the vapor got out of his system......ei, he breathes it in, his blood stream picks it up, circulates it through his body. The question is, how many exhales does it take to rid the body of ALL of the air you just took in? This is why the vapor lasted as long as it did
I'll always die on the hill that the intro with Bruce running into the collapsing Metropolis trying to do anything is one of the best depictions of Bruce/Batman across media... Sadly, in my opinion, nothing else in the DCEU ever came close to it...
Its a great moment but then the rest of the movie happens. Batman using the 1% line as the main reason to kill Superman is easily one of the worst depictions of Batman I've ever seen.
@@jabbathehutt83 I also loved the warehouse fight with Bruce being a beast. This movie has a few great moments, but they're just so poorly strung together
11:18 Today I learned the news guy from spiderman voices omni man. What a glow-up. As someone that got most of my superman knowledge from watching Smallville I honestly never saw Lex Luthor as a crazy man. He was a bald man that at some point was friends with Clark, he kept trying to prove he had powers but always failed, he did get obsessed with him but was still very much a normal and level headed person from an outside perspective.
I don't think anyone unfamiliar with that story arc would have gotten the reference. Granted, it's pretty well-known at this point. If we had a DCEU solo Batman movie bassed on "Killing Joke" to lay the groundwork for Bruce's depression... it might have hit harder.
in most of the comics and the shows where Bats and Sups are a part of the Justice League, batman is very closed off and suspicious of every member of the team, so much so that he has a thing called a contingency plan that is basically all the weaknesses of the the members just incase they go evil or rogue.
Alex u probably missed the Robin duit with the laughs of the Joker. The reason why this batman is like that is because the Joker killed Robin so he ended up old depressed without caring about killing people,also is an older version
He saw the suit and mentioned the Joker tease, he just didn't know it was Robin. Yet another example of how this movie didn't explain enough. Such a disappointing film.
Hey guys!
Thank you all so much for all the love and support you constantly show me over here on this channel! Yesterday was one of those days where I woke up feeling like shit. Not in a sick way, but I just felt terrible about myself. It was weird as fuck. Felt like I couldn't be proud of myself. Felt like I didn't deserve anything. Felt inadequate.
Only reason I'm saying this is because this was on my heart, and I felt like someone out there may need to hear this. I know that a lot of times life can get weird. It can be difficult. It can seem unbearable. I want to remind you guys that no matter what stage you're in, in your life, there will be struggles. We are all going through it. That is a huge part of the reason I make these videos: to help provide some relief and escapism for all of you
Wow that's a lot of words to bad I ain't reeding em
Please watch society of the snow
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As someone who is going through really difficult times, i appreciate your words.
Much love to you, Alex.
Lex has never been psychotic like Joker. He's a bald, insanely smart, stoic, calm and collected businessman. Nothing like Eisenberg is in this movie, but also nothing like Alex is expecting Lex to be.
Exactly! He's been a businessman, an arrogant a-hole, but never crazy or fully unhinged. My personal favorite version of Lex is from All-Star Superman. A human, a genius, a billionaire--with all the self-confidence and human failings that come with it. There's something to be said about a man who feels he is made less, that it is patently unfair for an alien to be this pinnacle of power without having to work for it like he had to.
My second favorite is likely Rosenbaum's Lex from Smallville. A potential brother, a best friend, an abused child looking for connection, feelings of personal betrayal?
Anything but this
Yeah, Jesse Eisenberg gave more Riddler or Joker vibes.
This is his son, not the original Lex Luther
Lex HAS been that way but only when under the influence of another being or drug, take when Brainiac used Lex as an incubator or when he was juicing himself up with that crazy kryptonite steroid thing he made and he was roiding out 😂
I think what this movie was going for was making him into like, a pretentious Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos type of character, which I honestly don't think is a bad idea in concept, but the issue is that they leaned too much into the whole "pretentious god complex" aspect, which just made him seem unhinged and ridiculous. Methinks with a better script or better direction, this version of the character could have had more going for it.
When you watch Justice League, make sure it's the Zack Snyder version.
Everyone needs to upvote this
I think he should watch Josstice League first before watching the real one just so that I can see him curse the fook out of Joss Whedon
if you're going to watch justice league, it has to be the zack cut
YES! Snyder Cut is an absolute MUST. You will not regret it.
UPVOTE THISSSSSSS
38:45 If you remove the safety pin and don’t let go of the lever you can put the safety pin back. But if you let go of the lever the fuze will ignite and there is no turning back
"This is the weirdest intro I've ever made for a video"
I... I honestly can't tell any more
I get what you're saying but "My grandma's dead and all but 'scuse me while I fuck this orange" ranks right up there
Seems like every one of his intros is the new weirdest intro.
Sammmmeeee. 😭
The least horni intro on this channel 😂
in November bro 😭
In deadpool 2, deadpool made reference to the fact that batman and superman have mothers with the same name, Martha
That shit was also used in the MCU and for some reasons, fans fucking loved it and did not care it was part of a story.
He also made the comment to Cable; "You're so dark, you sure you're not from the DC universe?"
@@thomasjones4570when
@@thomasjones4570no they didn’t
Because Deadpool is too dumb to every get that which is why he referring to audiences level intelligence.
I like my Alfred a little older... meanwhile Jeremy Irons was already 68 when this came out haha, he looked damn good for his age
24:00 Batman's mask has a layer of lead. One of Superman's weaknesses is that he can't see through lead.
_Correct._
Isn't that dangerous to wrap your face and/or head in lead?!
Lmao like that helps?!?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bruh he can't my face until he breaks it 🤦🏽♂️💀
Superman knew exactly who he was when he was listening at Lex Luthors party.
He just waited until Batman was out active again. How do you think you found him so easily?
@@Terp311wrong, Superman knew exactly who he was at Luthors party. He could hear everything. He waited to catch Bruce in action which is why he found him so easily
"Superman and batman need to sit down and have a cup of coffee." Don't worry, they do on pretty much every single episode of HISHE
Bahahahahaha😂
Damn I forgot about HISHE. Haven't seen a video in ages.
"I'm Batman" hehehe love those vids.
Plus, James Gunn has hinted that he might recreate that in the future lol
If this fucktard would only react to Pitch Meetings, Honest Trailers and HISHE
A lot of people assume Alfred is supposed to be weak and old, but in the comics, that's not really the case. In most versions, Alfred served in the British Armed Forces or worked in intelligence, which gave him combat skills, medical training, and tactical knowledge. As for his age, he’s usually portrayed as being in his late 50s to early 60s in most iterations.
A problem here is that Batman has been Batman for 20 years, I feel like out of all the iterations, this is where he should be older
@nolphkynicolas5591 I mean to be fair the actor is old he just doesn't look like it
the fact that Batman's parents were Maggie and Negan from the Walking Dead was crazy
Exactly my thoughts, they definitely did that on purpose😂
I think you meant John Winchester and Bella Talbot from Supernatural. 😉
@@DementedDaisy never watched it
@@xtheregulator42xyou should it’s great really funny as well
@@xtheregulator42x This movie was released a little more than a week before JDM's first episode as Negan. He had been John Winchester since 2005. Plus, he was in Zack Snyder's Watchmen as the Comedian.
The Batman that Affleck is portraying is based widely on the Frank Miller character from his graphic novel. The suit you see that has “jokes on you” is from when Joker killed Robin. This Batman is older, has been fighting crime in Gotham for 20 years and has lost his moral compass. You should watch the animated movie Batman: Return of the Dark Knight parts one and two. You will see why Batman has no issue killing. Hope that helps, as always Great reaction!
the biggest issue was that the studio wouldnt let the filmakers make the film.
They should have never have chosen to go with a middle age Batman when you start a new franchise.
Still small reasoning and terrible Batman
Exactly that movie is so good and so are all the other DC animated movies. That version of Batman isn’t my favorite I like the more agile and younger Batman with strict morals but i can respect this version and Affleck fits the look perfectly
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 That's a fair point, but Batman's origin has been so used in the past in film that I thought it was a good idea to do a different version of Batman.
My lex Luther is like the smallville version.
He is stoic, calculated, genius, and driven.
Yes. But Superman and Lois Lex. Scary.
I agree. Smallville had a lot of what I consider the "gold standard" for some of the Superman characters. Which for me were Lex, Martha, and Johnathan. All of which were played perfectly by their respective actors.
Also the voice of The Flash from the Justice League cartoon.
0:20 tell me this mf did not but bit in to and eat a orange with the skin still on and not cut get this crazy man some help
He then contemplated violating the orange. He’s unhinged lol
@ we know he is this has Ben documented😂😂
Thank God, somebody else said something I think I was in shock
@ I had to replay it 3 times to make sure I wasn’t going crazy like him I get eating apple with TEH skin on I don’t but ok fair enough but an orange ? ok i guess 😂😂
What’s wrong with it?
1st rule of a cinematic universe:
"You don't tell everyone that you're making a cinematic universe."
Doesn't seem to stop Gunn, does it?
Except every one of them does that.
Like, Fury telling Tony at the end of Iron Man bout the Avengers Initiative?
@@a7000zo Gunn is fixing the mess from Hack Snyder, give him a break.
@@TheBlond49 good joke peddo gunn 1 hit wonder cant fix shit enjoy new joke universe
38:46 The pin of the hand grenade is a lock, the handle is the fulminant, when you remove the lock you can put it back on if you have not released the handle, once you release the handle without the lock on, you release the fulminant and after approximately 5 seconds it will activate the explosive charge.
In summary: Yes, you can remove the pin but once you release the handle there is no turning back.
Eisenberg could’ve been an amazing RIDDLER, imagine replacing lex’s character with The riddler, it could’ve been much more fun and fitting for Eisenberg eccentric personality
you mean if they actually made a Batman movie to set up this world first? 😢
I think Eisenberg could have even been a good Lex. He's a strong actor, he's got the look after his head was shaved. They should have just toned down the insanity
Exactly! Sadly that and the "Martha" bit made the movie look bad. I wouldn't mind Jesse being recasted as Riddler in the new DCU. He's perfect for it
I hate how people are too annoyed by that he isn't acting like a Lex and more like a Joker and Riddler, but they don't give a shift when Marvel tone down serious and powerful characters and made them a joke.
@ like who?
Plenty of people have been upset by ultron, malekith, abomination, modok, the mandarin, and so forth.
Lex just stands out amongst bad portrayals because it is SO off and was a factor in the failure of a disappointing film that started the downward turn of a new cinematic universe. Yeah, ultron should have been far more insane, but he didn’t derail the MCU’s trajectory.
There’s a difference
27:40 Old as Alfred is (usually 60-70), he can still kick ass. He’s shot aliens with a shotgun, gone after invaders in the batcave, and is all the more dangerous than (usual) Batman since he doesn’t share his no-kill rule.
Not to mention he beat up Superman 😅
13:26 - So, the Joker painted message on the armor isn't just a reference to the Joker, it's also a reference to one of the comics where Joker kills Robin, Batman's second, his partner in crime. It leaves a really bad scar on Bruce, he's never the same after he loses Robin. Do yourself a favour and watch the scene again, watch Batfleck's acting, it's one of the best scenes in this movie if you understand why he's so angry right there.
Even tho he’s a bad Batman lmao
Best part is the Wonder Woman entrance - with that music and the timing? It's just so badass, STILL gives me chills!
I’ll never forgive them for spoiling her entrance in the trailer.
@@brutusjudas5842 Yeah it's such a shame. The showing I was at people applauded and cheered at her entrance. Can't imagine the excitement level if it wasn't spoiled. :)
I found it extremely cringe. I really don't like her character, but to each their own.
@@techno_magnusBut I bet you think Tony Stark wasn’t cringe at all.
@@Krust23 Nope. I am not a fan of anyone in the MCU. I would put her over him. I really don't like the writing in the MCU.
Alfred is plenty old enough, and he's not supposed to be a helpless old man. Alfred is only around 25 years older than Bruce, and Alfred is also a bad ass former British Royal Air Force who also worked for MI6.
Agreed, the music is it's own emotional element. Han Zimmer is one of the greats!
Tom Holkenborg (AKA Junkie XL) gets slept on a lot, too. He worked on ZSJL solo and that score is phenomenal. And he had a big hand in helping to craft this movie’s score, too. They work great together.
Man I still listen to so many of the DCEU scores even though I definitely am not a fan of the movies. Snyder has a gift for making some moments shine even if he can't get the whole movie to work and when you have good 'moments' and add Zimmer? Magic. Man of steel music never fails to move me.
Alex really said he didn’t get any of the Superman origin in MOS?? 😅 The opening scene is literally 5 minutes of his origin, then the flashbacks throughout. Gota love Alex
He means the human origin of him and the Kent’s. I agree but I didn’t mind because I watched Smallville. I have all the origin I need 😂😂👍🏾✌🏾
He also said MOS had no emotional depth when he spent most of that movie telling jokes over all the scenes that added emotional depth.
@@B-DadSmallville is not an indication of what Snyder was going for. There’s so many ways to do a Superman origin story and Snyders looked hardcore and almost depressing compared to The series.
@
It’s over. The evil Snyder can’t hurt you anymore 😂😂😂
I just meant I know of Clark’s family and the lore. It’s always different but I’m sure there was plenty of same there too. But yeah even what we saw wasn’t really Smallville feeling.
Maybe watch mos video of his Again he told us why he felt that way
I can’t believe he didn’t comment on the senator lady being the voice of elastigirl!! Literally the second she spoke I knew!
When Iron Man came out with the tease for building to an Avengers film, DC was asked if they had any similar plans. Their response was no, their heroes were iconic and had no need to team up (even though there is that Justice League thing in the comics). Flash forward a few years when Avengers makes over a billion at the box office... NOW they decide they need to go that route. Unfortunately, instead of wanting to establish each hero on their own and build to the big team up, they had a 'we need to catch up to Marvel quick' mentality and rushed everything. DC/ WB only have themselves to blame.
I don’t think it was bad. Man of steel BVS and The Synder cut was an amazing trilogy and they should’ve expanded from there like they wanted to but yall hated BVS which caused them to change 2017 Justice league
I blame people who hate this film because a gf we Zach Synder left it gave WB the green light to butcher the justice league. Man of steel BVS and the Synder Cut it a great trilogy and they could’ve had the solo movies after like they wanted to. They didn’t need to follow the mcu, just run their own pace and they tried but they didn’t trust Synder because a lot of people didn’t understand what he was doing
It worked for me.
@@tmac731It wasn’t as terrible as some people make it out to be, but both MoS and BvS are fundamentally not good because they do injustice to each of their respective characters, namely in the fact that both Batman AND Superman do not kill, period.
I know what they were going for with the seriousness of Superman killing Zod, but they still needed to find a way to have him beat Zod without killing him. In the OG Superman 2, they find a way to trap Zod and his crew in some crazy prison. I think it would’ve been cool to have a callback to that.
Then, I do understand that Batman had been done 3 times up until this point on the big screen. But to establish why this particular Batman is so dark and jaded and unlike the others, we need more than some expository dump.
@@tmac731For example, the Robert Pattinson Batman was absolutely fantastic for establishing the character, and it matches perfectly with Batman Year One where he’s extremely moody and aggressive. However, it only works for one movie, if they try to do that again if they do a sequel, it won’t work.
Clark trained himself to memorize Lois's heartbeat with his super hearing to tell when she is in danger
I still call bs that he didn't find the heartbeat of his own mother but did so with Lois, and ALFRED with some Wayne tech finds Martha ez no problem.
@ that is a good point and another reason snyder sucks as a writer
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 it's even worse when you consider how they've sometimes explained it in comics and animation before. Superman can literally hear EVERYTHING, and just focuses on whatever sounds are most important at the time. if he hears an entire group of people screaming in terror at once or a series of massive explosions, that's the issue that takes precedence over one individual scream, for example. in the issue of Lois Lane, he literally can recognize her voice as distinct and considers her top priority, Barring an impending world ending catacysm. the same SHOULD apply to Martha Kent, and a more comic accurate Clark would likely have intervened when she was first kidnapped.
The horse is there because a lot of major cities have police horses instead of motorcycle cops. Horses can get up around traffic and on sidewalks/down alleys. Metropolis is based on NYC, which still has a major mounted police force.
That look Ben gives to his Suit after he walks past the robin suit is so fucking good . I fucking love sfflecks bats
Was fully prepared to not like him as Batman, but I admit that I was wrong. The movies could have been better, but that's not Affleck's fault.
Alex-" I wanna see some batman superman fight" Batman-" you will " 🦇
meh, barely. Disappointment of a film.
Some cool things about this version of Lex Luthor:
1. Zack wanted a modern time ceo type for Lex Luthor, which is why he went the Mark Zuckerberg route (and actually hired the guy who played Zuck) - smart, power hungry, influential in the government and media.
2. His theme song is the MOS theme song but backwards
To explain the Chamber. In this version of the story, Kryptonians are no longer born. A decision is reached as to what *type* of person is needed for a particular task and the genetic material from two people who are best disposed to that task are combined in the chamber to tailor the resultant child to be what is needed. Zod, for instance, was literally bred to be a warrior in such a manner. However, if you're not careful, or screw around with the genetic material, you can create some truly monstrous beings with unpredictable and terrible power.
cant wait for ZSJL
really hope he watches that version and not the whedon version.
He should watch both versions, just to see how awful theatrical version is.
@@junniormattos1Both trash
@@junniormattos1 Snyder's version is also not that good, it's just better than the theatrical release.
@@doctorsixes8371ZS overrated, a little too long, and overall mid
17:29 “Professor Lex” had me dying 😂
With a grenade- once the pin is pulled the “safety” has been disengaged. As soon as the hand lever releases past a certain point the ignition has already begun making its way to the explosive payload, within. You could pull the pin and potentially hold the grenade as long as you want. But as soon as the fulcrum of that hand lever progresses far enough that “fuse” gets lit.
You could also if you haven’t moved your hand from the lever re-pin the pin making the grenade “safe” again and not “live”.
@ Very true. Much as the “safety” is still in place whilst the hand lever is still fully compressed/“he’s just holding onto it!”
It got rated R for the F bombs and the scene in the hearing room after the explosion showing Superman just standing there. Those were cut from the theatrical version.
I coulda sworn the Supes standing there scene was also in the theatrical cut...
@ been a while since I watched it myself but I’m pretty sure there’s the explosion and then later you see him helping the victims outside. Might have to watch it again. But it’s such a muddled mess I don’t know if I want to subject my to it.
@@bradleewalsh7676 - yes it's in the theatrical release. NO bodies being incinerated or pieces of humans flying around in explosion scene that needed to be cut.
Also Afflecks shower ass
"How does he know she's always in trouble?" Because he can hear her from anywhere in the world XD
Wait, Man of Steel shows Krypton at the beginning of the movie and how Zod wasn't listening to Jor-el about the death of the planet. They even show Kal-el being sent off to Earth. No origin story?
Man of Steel was essentially a origin story yes lol very confusing
Man of Steel WAS the origin story.
Yes. It feels like Alex is very disingenuously engaging with these movies based on their bad reputation. It's sad.
he means, Superman didnt get an origin story arc. He was just thrust into it in the first movie, and never knew what he was doing. Superman's origin story was supposed to be Man of Steel, BVS and ZSJL. That was his "Hero's Journey".
@@coopdog101they have a bad reputation because they are simply bad bro lmao.
39:10 "So this batman doesn't care about killing people right?!" Alex says, after watching batman kill several thugs during the batmobile chase scene
Did they actually die though? No bodies = unconfirmed death.
@@passionsquietragea car getting blown up seems like a death to me
@@passionsquietrage I mean, there's literaly a scene where theres at least two guys in a car, batman rips it to pieces with the batmobiles machine gun and then drives THROUGH it blowing the car up. If they can survive that, then they are the real superheros of the film lol
@karlfleming7182 I mean, being burned isn't necessarily fatal. At most, they'd be disfigured if not crippled.
@davidivaskovic Being burned isn't necessarily fatal.
39:45 i dont know why but that transition with Alex saying no capes then goes to superman flying fown is actually pretty genius
15:14 - This Lex was quite enough for me. I feel like many people are too focused on whatever they knew before upon tapping into something new. Also I love how Lex jokes about Sups and Bats (and hints Batman to investigate his R&D) right in their faces knowing perfectly well that those two have no idea.
@@leshiy_nd this Lex is what I imagine would happen if Joker had a kid with Jar Jar Binks.
Rule #1 when making something out of the original:
Respect the source material!
I'm all for originality but the acting and writings for the character is fucking awful. Bad casting choice and just bad character over all.
@@AleksandarIvanov69 Is that impossible without following the original to a word?
Oh my... My replies aren't dissappearing, hurray!
7:16, the instant disappointment right after the pure excitement on his face
40:32 Well, he's not quite human, he's a monster called Doomsday. About 2x stronger than Superman in all live and animated films and comics. It is meant for killing, brutality without a hint of mercy. It's just a movie, but the writers somehow didn't understand the fact that if Lex is really a "genius", then how he wants to solve the problem that arises after Superman's death. What will happen to the world if Doomsday exists on it
48:25 headset dent check 😂
Man Of Steel was nothing but Superman’s origin story Lmao wtf
Right I was confused on that comment. We literally saw him be born.
You should read more comics because it is like the Superman origin comics.
A very bad one at that lmao
@@randynguyen9778 you clearly don’t read comics cause no the hell it wasn’t LMAO
@CaptainRockoBD I do that's why I am telling you should too.
One of my favorite Superhero movies. Hate me all you want, you cant change my mind.
yep
1. I love seeing the DCU through the eyes of non-fans who see it like it actually is.
2. Lex was never like the Joker. He is not supposed to be insane. He is a genius that fears Superman will one day take over and is hyper focused on killing him before he can.
3. If they had only added "Save my mother, Martha Kent, save Martha"...it would stopped the literal flood of tears from bitchy fans that harshly judged the movie and not made that scene as cringe as it was.
4. Yes, in the comics their mothers names were both Martha.
5. There is no "I think Batman would team up", Batman was always a loner AND this is before the Justice League which formed out of a "need" to be able to take on stronger villain's. That is why the movie is "The Dawn of Justice". IE: The need for the Justice League.
6. The "monster" is supposed to be Doomsday and in the comics....Doomsday kills Superman in "The Death of Superman". But. Will he rise again?
7. This is the Batman after Robin is beaten to death by the Joker...he is broken. Dark and more extreme.
8. The "thing" that is missing is that Warner Bros wanted to do in 3 movies what the MCU did over 12...build a cinematic universe. Snyder was forced to make this 2 part script into 1 and then do the same with the next movie, Justice League all while turning down the idea that Superman needed another movie and that the Wonder Woman, Flash and Cyborg movies should be released BEFORE this one.
The "Martha" scene isn't cringe at all, people just misunderstood it and got triggered for some reason. Also, it shouldn't matter when the movies were released. There's nothing wrong with introducing characters before their movies are made. The MCU did it with Black Panther and Spiderman. And there's a version of Lex in the comics that's like he is in this movie. Yet, people either don't know that or have forgotten.
@@passionsquietrage The idea was good, but the execution wasn't fantastic.
@childishslinky324 But it wasn't terrible either.
Of course you only really needed Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, movies before the team up movies started, just like Marvel only really needed Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, and Captain America before their big team up... It is OK to introduce some character IN the team up movie...
@@jamesraykenney Iron Man had 2. Hulk was already Established with several iterations. Introducing Thor and Cap basically set up a team in fans eyes since Iron Man 2 also had War Machine, Natasha Romanoff and Nick Fury in it...plus the Agents of Shield show was on TV setting up the Avengers movie.
So I will disagree that just doing a Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman film would have been enough especially since Snyder himself said he had 2 scripts and wanted The Flash and Cyborg coming in to help stop Doomsday who was also written very differently for this single film.
BTW...Brainiac was completely cut out of the script and Luther was made the creator of Doomsday. Brainiac was going to be the computer on Zods ship making it more in line with one of the comics iterations of the character.
23:58 - I feel like Alex forgot about Clark hearing Alfred and right away question Bruce about Batman
Definitely
17:41 brother, I am loving this Editor's notes throughout the videos😭😭
I actually really liked Batfleck, But they should've just had Vincent D'nofrio doing his Wilson Fisk as Lex Luthor and that would've worked.
God no wtf
I would have preferred Bryan Cranston
@@kylekillpack2272 bryan is too iconic all you would get is people meming him because of breaking bad
I loved this version of Batman he felt more comic book and less real like the fights with him everything I loved I feel he is underrated.
I'm just curious, what made him feel more like the comic book character? The fact that he murders people with guns, ritualistically tortures people, wakes up next to random women with no real explanation, or that he has somehow developed the super power of prophetic dreaming? He's without a doubt the least comic book accurate Batman. But to be fair, this script also split Lex Luthor in half and mixed one half with Batman and the other half with the Riddler. The whole movie really wanted to be a Frank Miller story but it was written by someone who has decidedly far less talent than Frank Miller.
@kylekillpack2272 I feel his fight scenes like the warehouse scene it felt like something from a comic book the way he fighting and the way he’s super big and opposing he maybe the least comic accurate one but the other Batman they fight scenes just don’t hit like his.
@@kylekillpack2272 Well if you look at the earliest comic iterations of batman he did indeed kill and used guns. It was changed to the "no kill, no guns" later on but originally, yes, Batman did use guns and killed. Also the Batman that is portrayed in Zack Snyder's movies is based off of Frank Millers Dark Knight series which the movie did a solid job at doing. Therefore Ben Affleck's adaptation of Batman was one of, if not the most comic accurate physically and mentally comparing to the original Batman comics and the frank miller Dark knight series this is specifically based off of. I don't understand why people complain about the killing/guns and his mentality in the film when all it takes is a quick 5 min google search lol. You people expect some perfect portrayal of a character which is not possible. Someone will always have something negative to say and in no way am i saying this Batman is perfect but in no way was he a horrible adaptation... People just say that cause of the DC bandwagon hate that came for no reason.
@@etherealvisual3699 if you actually read the original Batman comics when he did kill, you would still know that Affleck Batman isn't the most accurate version. And those comics didn't even last long, btw. They ended well before Robin was introduced in issue #38. And most of the villian deaths were more a case of Batman not saving them from their own mistakes ala Bale Batman than this one.
So... Have fun with the coping and your massive logic leaps, but reality is literally otherwise.
@@TheSaharay1 Okay, and ? Thanks for proving my point lol
I don’t know if anyone said it but the monster at the end they were fighting was called Doomsday, one of super man’s most power villains in the comics
thats not the actual doomsday (snyder confirmed it). when the ship says thing part about not ever creating another deformity (or whatever) it was referring to the real doomsday, this was just something similar
44:38 I think that AngryJoe pretty much summed up this and the ending of the film as a whole:
_I wanna see the Justice League at his funeral, but now I can't!_
_I wanna see a hero slowly stripped of his life in the ultimate battle instead of just simply being stabbed in one swoop, but now I can't!_
_I wanna build a connection with _*_THIS_*_ Superman the same way he built a connection with me in hundreds of different stories, but now I can't!_
_I want to fear that this might be the last time that Superman doesn't make it back, but now I can't!_
_There were thousands of comics before Superman died. You had him in two movies and you killed him in two movies! You barely even focused on him! You know what I wanna see? I wanna see you _*_EARN_*_ Superman's death! This isn't Jimmy Olsen, this is damn Superman! He deserves your time and respect!_
Sounds more like throwing a fit because he didn't get what he wanted even though he didn't need any of that and what he got was just as good.
@@passionsquietrage "What he got was just as good" 😂🤣
@@passionsquietrage
What he asked for:
Diamond Encrusted Gold Apple
What you said:
Elephant Turd tried up in the sun
@@passionsquietrage You're in here defending this movie *hard* no matter what people say about it. Even my favourite movie has flaws, and so does yours.
@TrueChaoSclx Everything has flaws because perfection is non existent. That doesn't mean it's bad.
World's Finest, Parts One & Part Two from Superman: The Animated Series (1997) does a far superior job of portraying the first meeting between Superman and Batman. This storyline sees the Joker arriving in Metropolis and forming an alliance with Lex Luthor. Bruce Wayne's arrival in Metropolis leads to a tense start with Clark Kent, thanks Bruce asking Lois out for dinner. Batman and Superman then meet in a strip club, Superman discovering Batman's true identity. Batman then discovers Superman's identity by tracking Superman back to Clark's apartment, again no physical just both characters being mental games on each other along with Bruce trying to make Clark a little jealous by dating Lois for a little while. Batman leaves Metropolis as an ally to Superman. There's no Superman's death or underwhelming introductions of key DC characters.
The Batman (2004) also had a really fun first meeting between Batman and Superman, heavily inspired by the story above just with its own spin. Both are so much better than what we got in this film.
Wouldn’t disagree with anything here. DCAU is PEAK DC media.
Wonder Woman’s epic cello theme is 100% the best superhero tune ever penned. Fight me.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is this version of an older jaded Batman with a dead Robin is largely based on Frank Miller's portrayal in the classic game changing comic The Dark Knight Returns, including the fight with Superman where Batman wears a similar metal suit and puts the beatdown on Supes, although under very different circumstances. I hope you check out Justice League Snyder cut.
stay away from the non-Snyder cut - I didn't mind it, but it was super disjointed and confusing - the Snyder cut is worth two episode, the movie is so long.
unpopular opinion but this was my favorite "movie batman" he is a seasoned batman that has been through years of dealing with the worst of the worst and no longer pulls his punches
Best Batman
It can stay unpopular. Batman is admirable because he doesn’t break.
Affleck is fantastic as batman all around. Batman is one of the harder superheroes for an actor to play, because you have to play two distinct characters, Batman and Bruce are NOT the same person and require you to really flex your acting ability, and bruce is often masking himself with yet another persona.
Keaton was a decent Batman, but was fantastic as the isolated, emotionally damaged and traumatized bruce wayne, for example. Clooney was decent at both, but trapped in a terrible film. Bale was far better at being batman than being bruce wayne.
Affleck nails both sides of the character very well, and (in my opinion) has the same problem clooney did, in that he's trapped in a subpar film by a writer/director who doesn't really understand the characters he's creating. visually stunning films, don't get me wrong, but lacking in understanding of the substance of it all. i was really looking forward to the cancelled Affleck standalone Batman film, because it feels like Affleck really get's the character, and he's a fantastic director, so i had real high hopes for it.
Fr like the comic Batman that stays the same morally throughout decades of fighting crime in one of the most dangerous cities on Earth is completely unrealistic to how that would affect someone's mind. The closest the comics get to portraying the mental and emotional impact of that life is the time after [SPOILER] Jason's death, where he's much more careless and cruel than usual.Ben Affleck's Batman probably started out with the no-guns, no-killing rules, but unlike the comics he didn't keep that mindset as he progressed and saw more and more terrible crimes. Maybe he would've been less of a hardass if he's had a Robin in this universe, but he doesn't. There's no reason for him not to kill besides his own moral compass.
@@gourdguru I think Pattinson's Batman, while quite different from the comics (he doesn't pretend not to be emo), is also a good portrayal, especially since that's the first few years of his work as Batman. In the other Batman movies, and in most of the comics, he starts out his vigilante "career" with already great skills and planning. We get to see Pattinson's Batman make mistakes and learn from them.
So if you look closely at the desert situation. They piled all the body’s and burned them with a torch. Looking to frame Superman with burning the bodies. No bullets to frame Superman.
1:42 We've seen Thomas and Martha Wayne die so many times we can make a drinking game out of it.
6:37 I got to hand to Zack Snyder that first seen of Batman was perfect. The way he depicts Batman as this demonic creature straight outta a horror movie is so epic.
Yeah… then Zack decided to write the rest of the movie and ruined Batman lmao.
Jesse Eisenberg's portrayal of Lex Luthor was like a wet fart to the face. The dude is nickel and dime store Michael Cera for me and plays practically the same character in everything he does.
@@Khay-77 it was painful to watch. What were they thinking?!?
This.
@@KevyNova It's just insulting, one of the best villains in all of DC and they give it to a weasel who is the furthest from Lex's character possible.
@@KevyNovait’s not just grown people crying about a fictional character
This was great! I love your unnecessary amount of anger at the newspaper departments. WEATHERMEN STAY WEATHERMEN!!!
1:13 Is that Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Lauren Cohan playing Mr. and Mrs. Wane?! How have I never noticed this until now?!?
Bro I just realized that now too holy f 😂😂
Yes. Impressed and underwhelmed is a great way to describe this movie. Now watch Wonder Woman Next. It F'n Rocks!
Yes! It’s incredible how much this movie gets right and wrong simultaneously. Wonder Woman on the other hand is just epic
But... Don't Watch Wonder woman 1984. God awful!
I think what a lot of people didn't realize at first was that Batman WAS a villain. In the beginning, Bruce was giving a metaphor about his life as Batman being "a beautiful lie". How everything used to be black and white, good and evil, but he sees that's not the case. This Batman is 20 years in the game. He's jaded and fed up. His arc in this movie is best summed up by Harvey Dent's line in The Dark Knight. "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." When Batman is reminded of his parents' death, he realizes he has now taken the role of his parents' killer. He decides to throw that away and turn a new leaf.
Before, Bruce tells Alfred "How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?" After seeing Superman sacrifice himself, he's inspired to be better and tells Diana "Men are still good."
Batman's arc in BvS is a redemption arc. From villain to returning hero.
I Remember when people said this movie would kill the MCU
I've never seen it that way, but when MoS came out I was hyped that DC movies were back and getting nice live action big budget films again. And the director of 300 as well? Sign me up. I also love the MCU as well. but strangely prefer Whedon's work there over what he did in JL. Snyder cut is much more in line with the first two films. Whedon colors his movies like they are literally out of comic panels. which imo works well in the avengers
The directors cut bodies most of the MCU. So does MoS, but they aren't as good as peak Marvel.
@@johnohrstrom5112 I agree, this film and man of steel hold up really well compared to a lot of the MCU. they just have a different feel and tone to them that works well with how DC usually is. MCU has its peaks and valleys, and peak MCU i guess is pretty subjective, I know I adore Ultron because of James Spader as a stargate nerd myself, though that one gets debated a lot. it pretty much sets up the infinity saga in the same way as man of steel for justice league.
Didn't kill it, but it also has nothing to envy them imo, specially considering what Marvel's been putting out now.
imo these movies including the directors cuts are aight
What I got from this movie, if a person who actively tries attack and murder me, then I should mention my mothers name because there is a chance that his mother could have the same name as my mom
The entire reason of Batman being who he is is because of his parents death, and to see someone who he sees as nothing but a monster trying to be a god, say that he only wants to save his mother that it makes him human after all, it’s just an added benefit that they have the same mothers name, which also makes it matter more because it’s also allows for him to relate to Superman in some way and that’s it’s meaning
Lmao my mother's name was Robin. Could only use it on bats but not for the mother's name reason haha
@@seanoconnor8178 I was not serious in the comment
@@seanoconnor8178That is BS. First thing, Clark never has called his mother by her name the entire movie. Now he suddenly does just to have Batman go "Wow, our moms have the same name" And the other thing. This also doesn't make sense since earlier Batman says "Your parents probably told you..." so he was aware (or at least was assuming) that Superman has parents. This movie has a lot of BS but that scene is the biggest of them all
@ of course he has parents but he thought that Superman never cared for humanity because of all the death that happened from man of steel, but when he humanized himself by putting his moms well being over his own rather he died or not it allowed Batman to see that other side of him where he cared for the human race. Sorry that you hate this movie, I personally think it’s a masterpiece. And no matter what I don’t think we will ever agree
Absolutely love the fact he never realizes the Senate was the voice of Elastigirl
43:44 missed opportunity to put aquaman cameo , maybe just a subtle cameo of him getting the spear , everyone wouldve freaked
48:23 it actually meant nothing 😂😂😂
I 100% thought that was going to happen… and then … oh … ok
yeah i know. i tried to fit it in the video but the scene leading up to it and after it made the video pacing a little slow, so i cut that shit out. sorry lol
Dude had thoughts with that orange 😂
Superman figured out bruce was Batman at the party when he heard Alfred giving him instructions
WTF! I never noticed that Maggy and Negan are the Bruce Wane's parents! xD
Are you blind?
@@Failingatlife69why are you so rude, calm down
@@Darth_yapperwhy you fighting other people’s battles?
38:04 Their mother's name being Martha is one of the few things true to the comics in this film.
Most of the things in this movie are true to the comics.
Yea remember that time when batman went around branding people in the comics? And the one where wacky Lex Luther created Doomsday?
@@abstruseoni The movie is more comicbook accurate than Nolan movies and yet people jizz when they talk about the Dark Knight. Comicbook accuracy is worthless.
@@abstruseoni learn to fucking read dude. it stops you from looking like an unhinged easily triggered geek. The comment the person wrote said MOST,. MOST. Not ALL. MOST. look up the dictionary for the world MOST. The claim made was NOT that ALL things were comic accurate. The dude said something completely different and you come in here like a weirdo saying NOT EVERYTHING was comic accurate. like grow up loser.
41:49 so in the comics, Doomaday gets stronger and spender by adapting to the things that the heroes throw at him. So in this case the nuke being shot at him gave him nuke like abilities.
0:42 Alex writes the plot of call me by your name
I immediately thought of that scene from call me by your name hahaha the trauma
Alex - Arcane Season 2 is getting crazy good , you have to start season 1 now . We need this series in your collection , I need it !
No. We need him to watch Star Wars rebels.
I mean why not both @@CaptainRockoBD
@@CaptainRockoBD No, Arcane first. So much faster to get through. Clone Wars is only like halfway through on youtube, so he should watch Arcane first.
Detonating a nuke in space causes a giant electromagnetic pulse to destroy all of the electronics beneath its area of effect
Two minutes in, and young Bruce becoming Bat Jesus killed me.
No lie, almost walked out the theatre lol
Lol. Tbh I enjoyed it.
Snyder loves his Christ imagery
@@austinpena5605 dude same lol. it was at that moment i realized this was gonna be a lame ass movie. lol
Thank you for watching the ultimate version!!! You rock!
Oh good. this was the comment I was looking for before starting the video.
My all time favorite Superhero film. There's plenty of emotional depth in the Snyderverse, there's just not any unnecessary exposition. Superman and Batman are the two most recognizable and well known superheroes in all of pop culture... We've gotten the full blown origin story a bunch... Personally, I like how we get an older Batman who's more brutal, a bit jaded, and honestly... More grounded and realistic. The way Ben Affleck stares at the suit like an alcoholic needing his bottle. The Snyderverse takes the concept of what it would be like to live in a world with superheroes... The grounded, serious tone is what I appreciate so much. The morality aspect of it... The nihilistic nature of characters vs the hopeful faithful nature of others... It makes for a deeper story with each character's ideologies etc... Marvel imo wastes time doing joke fests and not telling a deeper story, with the exception of stories told in shows like Daredevil and The Punisher. I'm really glad you saw and appreciated the true meaning behind the "Martha" scene... It's easily overlooked by some people. Also, the greatest fighting sequence is shown in this film: The warehouse fight sequence. The Robin costume is a direct nod to the fact that Joker killed him and kicked him by writing that on his burnt suit.
When I first watched this, the only thing I wasn't initially sold on was Lex Luthor, but upon rewatches, I appreciate his character... He's the Lex before the iconic Lex... He's extremely nihilistic and psychotic, but he's not as collective as he becomes after this experience via this film. Overall, I love it and I hope to see your reaction to Zack Snyder's Justice League... Please DO NOT watch the abomination that was the Joss Whedon version.
This is the sort of review I wish people would listen to This guy is like the general audience, he clearly sees and knows that this film did not explain or show or focus on why or what made Batman became like The Punisher (which it should have focused on and dealt with).
It definitely did. It just wasn’t spoon fed to you with too much unnecessary dialogue and flashbacks. It’s all definitely there. It’s better to say you just wish Batfleck had a solo film before this movie to show his world right before the beginning of this one.
@@notyouraveragebear9326 there's this famous proverb : instead of offering too many hands to tocuh, offer a few to hold. The film clearly did not learn from this proverb
His Robin was murdered by joker..........that put him over the edge. Then he worked out that superman could destroy the planet, Its the only thing i do that matters..Hence anyone dying as a result of getting to that goal became fine. I think he only killed in that movie. Alfred saying "new rules" as batman was branding people would seem like a cake walk if he was murdering them ll the time
The death of Superman will make sense when you watch the Synder Cut
Everything you disliked about this version of Batman- was exactly how this Batman was meant to be portrayed. He is Older/jaded/and breaks the rules after years and years of well ya know
So the thing they fight at the end is called Doomsday a monster using the corpse of General Zod from the previous movie. His main thing is evolution/adapting. Which is why he keeps getting stronger and more difficult to kill.
MY FIRST TKME SEEING THIS NEVER NOTICED MAGGIE AND NEGAN PLAYED MARTHA AND THOMAS 😱
A NON-SPOILER STORYTIME:
Although the "extended version" of this movie was as long as it was... the studio refused to allow for Zack to create his completed universe which would've ultimately answered all questions and allow audiences to watch them in whatever order they wanted just like a nerd would with a comic book collection or just like people do with the MCU (watching them out of order, and still having them all make sense, due to all the information being there scattered throughout). Thus, the following movies are missing which could've beaten the MCU if they were given time to breathe:
> Su*c*de Squad (the original script for the brutal R-rated 3-hour long action/thriller/horror team-up movie that was to introduce The Joker and a bunch of new characters that are all bad guys, including Harley Quinn)
> Green Lantern (solo movie + backstory)
> Batman (solo movie + proper backstory to how Bruce became "Old Man Bruce" like in the comics + Directed By Ben Affleck)
> Man Of Steel 2 (explaining more backstory, and much more emotional character development)
> Zack Snyder's Justice League 2 & 3 (Zack almost completed the 2nd film during production of the first one, and the footage only exists in his possession until the studio allows him to complete the rest of the movies. The 3rd film was a natural result of changing so much during the production of the already released films being released as they were due to studio interference)
> The Flash (the version that was originally pitched and not the version we ultimately got)
The studio in fact removed so much content, that in the next movie (Zack Snyder's Justice League), it was originally meant to be a 2-part cinematic epic, with both parts being roughly 4+ hours in length each. In the end, the best Zack could hope for was what he was allowed to create:
> a single 143-minute Superman movie
> a single 182-minute long Batman movie that was badly merged into a Batman VS Superman movie because the studio wasn't going to allow him to make a natural continuation
> a single but extremely worthy team-up masterpiece in Zack Snyder's Justice League movie (the legacy of this film cannot be understated, as the studio wouldn't even let Zack Snyder grieve over the loss of his real-life daughter who took her own life during Production of the 2017 version of the Justice League movie, and as a result, the studio just handed that first version of the film over to Joss Weadon who didn't even wana do it. As a result of that, Joss changed the entire feel of every single character, their motivations, warped the story into a vomit-like cake, and didn't give us a proper conclusion to anything. The studio also forced Joss to cut the film to a 2 hour long runtime. In the end, the studio finally caved and Zack Snyder's Justice League finally happened a few years later, with 85% new footage, a 4+ hour runtime, and among some of the best fight scenes in all of DC - excluding the Dark Knight Trilogy).
The remaining movies which ended up being removed from Snyder's control but were infact created for public consumption were the following:
> Su*c*de Squad (the 2016 version we ended up getting was so tampered with, it's barely a shadow of its former self. The studio even ended up getting a music video editor to edit the complete film behind the Director's back just before the films release. The Director denounces the films existence to this very day. You can find heaps of the removed footage in all the trailers, music videos, and promitional material)
> Aquaman (a hit with both critics and audiences)
> Aquaman 2 (a missed opportunity)
> Wonder Woman (to be fair, turned out to be a worthy entry if you finished before the final battle)
> Wonder Woman 2 (a commerical and critical failure)
> The Flash (another heavy missed opportunity that had good moments, but ultimately failed to do what it was originally set out to do in the original script)
That clown Whedon also hit back at Gal accusing him of being abusive by saying English was her second language. What's the matter Joss, won't she sleep with you scumbag. In buffy he was not allowed alone on set with Michelle Trachtenberg who played Dawn. She was 14 at the time.
TL;DNR
My dude.
Snyder is overrated.
More complicated does not mean better.
His direction and storytelling peaked with Suckerpunch. He buries rational narratives and emotional character building beneath his desire to be Michael Bay.
@@MercenaryMuse Your TL;DR doesn't even come close to what i was explaining.
Beyond that, ignoring the fact that Suckerpunch sucked in general, the only version of Suckerpunch anyone should be watching, is the Extended Cut (a much more difficult version to find these days). And if a few extra minutes + a few new scenes aren't enough, that's because the movie was so restricted, censored, and cut down by the studio that Zack's still waiting to get the okay to release his Director's Cut (aka, his version of the actual movie that hasn't been tampered with by the studio).
As goes for your imaginary version of Michael Bay - anyone with half a brain, knows he's an actual competent Writer and Director. Case and point;
- Bad Boys 1 & 2 (Will Smith owes his action career to MB)
- The Rock (Nicholas Cage owes MB for his action career too)
- Pain and Gain
- The Island
And don't even bother mentioning movie that he's Produced but didn't Write or Direct. Being a Producer on a film gives you little say in what actually happens with the movie. Their biggest responsibilities are legal issues, shooting schedulling, financing, hiring talented people like writers and other folks on production, and lastly, commerical viability.
Senator Finch also played Elastigirl from The Incredibles.
So am i guessing right that he hasn't seen Superman The Movie based on him not knowing about Superman's origin?
Yeah but he’s seen man of steel so he should know but for some reason he doesn’t remember which is annoying
I feel like alex watches the reviews before hand n says it.
The close proximity to kryptonite causes him to weaken, significantly. The bullet that exploded in his face was kryptonite vapor, that he breathed in, causing him to weaken until all of the vapor got out of his system......ei, he breathes it in, his blood stream picks it up, circulates it through his body. The question is, how many exhales does it take to rid the body of ALL of the air you just took in? This is why the vapor lasted as long as it did
I'll always die on the hill that the intro with Bruce running into the collapsing Metropolis trying to do anything is one of the best depictions of Bruce/Batman across media... Sadly, in my opinion, nothing else in the DCEU ever came close to it...
Its a great moment but then the rest of the movie happens. Batman using the 1% line as the main reason to kill Superman is easily one of the worst depictions of Batman I've ever seen.
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Its crazy how you can get the character so wrong and yet still so right in the same movie.
Then the rest of the movie happened lmfaooo
@@jabbathehutt83 I also loved the warehouse fight with Bruce being a beast. This movie has a few great moments, but they're just so poorly strung together
The way they portrayed Lex in this movie is way too chaotic. He's a cold, calculated business man/mad scientist.
11:18 Today I learned the news guy from spiderman voices omni man. What a glow-up.
As someone that got most of my superman knowledge from watching Smallville I honestly never saw Lex Luthor as a crazy man. He was a bald man that at some point was friends with Clark, he kept trying to prove he had powers but always failed, he did get obsessed with him but was still very much a normal and level headed person from an outside perspective.
I thought that was obvious
Omniman is also the Yellow M&M
that lady scientist has a very recognizable voice. she is holly hunter. she voiced elastigirl
Their moms having the same name is comic accurate. Matha Wayne and Martha Kent both first appeared in 1939.
That joker reference was a reference to the Killing Joke where the joker kills Jason Todd aka Robin and spoilers………… Red Hood
I don't think anyone unfamiliar with that story arc would have gotten the reference. Granted, it's pretty well-known at this point.
If we had a DCEU solo Batman movie bassed on "Killing Joke" to lay the groundwork for Bruce's depression... it might have hit harder.
@ yeah, I agree would have been great context for his sadness
Jason Todd is killed in A Death in the Family story, not The Killing Joke. The Killing Joke is where Barbara Gordon is shot.
@ you’re right thanks . A sign of my need to brush up on comics
@@shakaaredan Oops, my bad. Thanks!
Yeah the title for this makes sense 😂 The animated version of there fight is so fucking goated
Everything fine but batman becoming too powerful is far from being even fiction logic.
@@MirartLeonzsuperman’s an alien and you have a problem either batman in the fight because of fiction logic?
I have a problem with the fight 🙋
“The Batman and Superman Movie: Worlds Finest (1997)” is the OG crossover. Definitely worth watching.
in most of the comics and the shows where Bats and Sups are a part of the Justice League, batman is very closed off and suspicious of every member of the team, so much so that he has a thing called a contingency plan that is basically all the weaknesses of the the members just incase they go evil or rogue.
IMMA NEED THAT ANNABELLE REACTION ALEX
then annabelle creation immediately after
@@delaysmb8959 yup for sure
You MUST SEE ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE. The best DC movie, in my opinion, next to The Dark Knight and The Batman
Alex u probably missed the Robin duit with the laughs of the Joker.
The reason why this batman is like that is because the Joker killed Robin so he ended up old depressed without caring about killing people,also is an older version
He saw the suit and mentioned the Joker tease, he just didn't know it was Robin. Yet another example of how this movie didn't explain enough. Such a disappointing film.
@user-jt1js5mr3f really?, probably on the Patreon, don't remember watching that part here xd
@@danielc121 13:33 my guy