This video helped me make my mind up on getting the Wild H10 on sale with some light upgrades over going carbon! I went with the H10 over H20 because the Orbea alloy wheels actually come with DT Swiss DT350 hubs which I'll upgrade to 54t ratchet out back for better engagement. Also comes with better components to sell off if you wanna change them out. My LBS bought parts off me so I could upgrade: Fork: RS Zeb Ultimate 170mm (charger 3, buttercups) Brakes: Hayes Dominion A4 Tires: DH casing DHR II / Assegai Bars: OneUp E-bar Drivetrain: GX AXS to go with the Shimano cassette Bosch Kiox 300 is a great display as well, you can wire it cleanly and flip it backwards to cover your headset. I'm gonna stick with the Float X for now since I'm trying to figure out which coil shocks do/don't fit well. I know the Fox DHX2 will, but it seems RS SuperDeluxe coil will not, and I'm not sure about PUSH Elevensix or the new SV8. The bike is perfect for hitting the gnarlier bay area trails!
Got the H10 was going to get the h20 then upgrade it but found a H10 at a excellent price and closely looking at the spec I was very happy with it the only things I have changed are the shifter to xt carbon one up bar's and added the compression adjuster knob to the rear shock very happy with the bike as it is now
@@MikePalmer42 Nice! The wheelset (with DT350h hubs) is a nice upgrade from the RaceFace. I was looking at that compression adjuster knob mod for the Float X and may do that as well. It's a great bike with a couple minor tweaks!
I was particularly interested in this particular video because I bought the Orbea Wild H20 two months ago after reading watching rave videos on RUclips, the last bike I bought after RUclips endorsement was the entry model Specialized Turbo Levo which I loved (2019) - got stolen! My concern is that the Ebike brands are soliciting paid reviews of their top, most expensive models from the popular RUclips channels, tellingly these paid reviews all come out at the same time, literally. There is a big problem with this platform - the reviews profusely embellish the super expensive bikes (some of which may be true of course), however, ordinary joe like me are much more likely to buy the entry level bikes in the hope that they ride very similar to the top models. EMTB - ordinary joe/jane - middle aged with kids, short on time, relatively new to or returned to biking, investing oversized sum to feed his/her hobby. None of the top earning channels review the entry level bikes, nor do they actually say anything negative because of the conflict of interest. Hence, it is not clear, who is this bike for? The beginner, or the pro downhill enduro ace? We hear far too many numbers - so many millimetres or angles this and that (chain stay, BB, reach etc.) and not enough about how they ride and whether these bikes are value for money? Hence, the RUclips channels are complicit in letting the industry get away with hastily thrown together lower end bikes that are seriously flawed, and still demand thousands of dollars/pounds/euros! My view after 2 month ownership is a degree of disappointment. The H20 is a monster truck, way too heavy, I did not expect that given that the top product is 20.8Kg! This is a major problem for intermediate/ early biker. The sheer weight detracts from being able to jump, turn, develop skill, and the poor fork/suspension platform can only described as dull and lacklustre. The internal battery and the ridiculous complicated headset with internal cables is just nuts. Importantly, something you did not point out - this is a front heavy bike, much more noticeable in my size small bike with big 750 battery taking up the whole length of the down tube. It is difficult to convince this bike to jump (more speed, more hop) and then control the tendency of front end dipping. Why oh why do I have to spend several thousand of hard earned cash to bring it up to speed? Should I really even try to bring the weight down - not possible. The result is that 2 months down the line, I am desperately trying to sell the bike and buy a Specialized - the market, as it is, I can't even get half price for a 2 month old bike. I do not believe the Orbea Wild 2023 Alloy models are value for money - period. It turns out, all the R&D went in to developing the carbon race winning models. There is a unhealthy collusion between industry and channels/social platforms that promote these bikes - it makes it impossible to get an honest view of products that are more expensive than the cars we drive.
And how much does the bike weight? Also if you look at the bike, it's a must to change for a better fork and probably also for a better shock. Besides this I'm not sure if it's just on your small size. You could have same issues with the top model, because of your weight and frame size.
Thanks for the informative video, highly appreciated. I ordered my H20 just a few hours ago. It will be my first ebike, been riding analog fs since 2002. Greetings from germany
Sweet rig! I've heard nothing but great things about the new Wild and UOSOCAL Danny does thorough research and reviews so not surprised he pulled the trigger on this bike. Love the upgrades and lovin the local bike check series Franky! I have a 2023 Pivot Shuttle LT with a few minor upgrades if you're interested in checking it out. Let me know 🤙
Great info. Danny’s happy with his purchase. The man does his demo research for sure 🤣 I’ve been impressed with it, love the Bosch motor. Everyone has to find that right bike geo, but when you do the bikes magic. HMU if and when you want to do the 🦆 I’ve got some solid feedback on it now .
I bought a 2022 M Team new in 2023 with upgraded Kiox display. Full Fox factory suspension XT 4 piston brakes and upgraded Orbea carbon wheels on DT 350 hubs for $6000 out the door! Gotta look around . Jenson is fine for small parts but for completes builds?
I also have this bike in a m10 and I removed the stop block inside the head tube and then removed 10mm from the peak of the plastic piece and then put a 10mm spacer on top of that. I run a Yoshimura ENDH stem and it’s so nice now!!
I am not sure if going 180mm would be ok for the Wild. Usually people upgrade the rear linkage to make the correct changes to the geometry so they can fit a longer fork without issues. I would check with orbea first if voids any warranty on the frame. Than proceed from there!
nice bike, but non-removable battery easily disqualifies it for me and a lot of my mates... :( meanwhile Levo FTW ! also for full integration (controls, LCD/LED and Ant+ so you can see data on your Garmin)
I do not, but those two are very different bikes. The rise is an super light ebike with lower torque and smaller battery focused on light and rely on more leg power than the wild. If it’s your first ebike I would recommend the wild. Always better to have more power and torque than finding out you need more on the trails.
do we really need rampage-able components? sure they are nice to have, but do we NEED them? especially when it comes to forks? at least i dont do 60" jumps, so for me the answer is no - i rather spend that money on 2 sweet biketrips....
I am not sure if you can. I just did a quick search online and it says all kiox are compatible with all smart systems 22’ and above. I will have to dig further to get more info
Btw great channel! Hope to see it grow. After a while of searching for an emtb, I finally picked up a small sized TR. First performance Mtb, apparently, Commencal is one of few who can ship an Emtb without sending it to a local assembler. I live close to Egypt and honestly there isn’t much choices when it comes to emtbs :(
If you go all wireless and make all your mods at the same time, grease the headset well and don’t pressure wash your bike it’s a clean minimalistic cockpit with low maintenance! I agree it’s not necessary but looks mint when done properly! 🤘🏻
I'm really enjoying the walk around other people's bike with there upgrades...excellent work mate 👍
Thank you! are you here in SoCal?
@@frankiesemtb
I wish my friend, all the way in England mate
@@chethompson2186 Well if i ever get a chance to visit England i'll Definitely give you a call!
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100% do my friend...and ditto if I get across the water too
This video helped me make my mind up on getting the Wild H10 on sale with some light upgrades over going carbon! I went with the H10 over H20 because the Orbea alloy wheels actually come with DT Swiss DT350 hubs which I'll upgrade to 54t ratchet out back for better engagement. Also comes with better components to sell off if you wanna change them out. My LBS bought parts off me so I could upgrade:
Fork: RS Zeb Ultimate 170mm (charger 3, buttercups)
Brakes: Hayes Dominion A4
Tires: DH casing DHR II / Assegai
Bars: OneUp E-bar
Drivetrain: GX AXS to go with the Shimano cassette
Bosch Kiox 300 is a great display as well, you can wire it cleanly and flip it backwards to cover your headset.
I'm gonna stick with the Float X for now since I'm trying to figure out which coil shocks do/don't fit well. I know the Fox DHX2 will, but it seems RS SuperDeluxe coil will not, and I'm not sure about PUSH Elevensix or the new SV8.
The bike is perfect for hitting the gnarlier bay area trails!
Congrats on the new bike! I’m so glad this video helped you. And great build you have there! Gonna be a sweet ride!
Got the H10 was going to get the h20 then upgrade it but found a H10 at a excellent price and closely looking at the spec I was very happy with it the only things I have changed are the shifter to xt carbon one up bar's and added the compression adjuster knob to the rear shock very happy with the bike as it is now
@@MikePalmer42 Nice! The wheelset (with DT350h hubs) is a nice upgrade from the RaceFace. I was looking at that compression adjuster knob mod for the Float X and may do that as well. It's a great bike with a couple minor tweaks!
I was particularly interested in this particular video because I bought the Orbea Wild H20 two months ago after reading watching rave videos on RUclips, the last bike I bought after RUclips endorsement was the entry model Specialized Turbo Levo which I loved (2019) - got stolen!
My concern is that the Ebike brands are soliciting paid reviews of their top, most expensive models from the popular RUclips channels, tellingly these paid reviews all come out at the same time, literally. There is a big problem with this platform - the reviews profusely embellish the super expensive bikes (some of which may be true of course), however, ordinary joe like me are much more likely to buy the entry level bikes in the hope that they ride very similar to the top models. EMTB - ordinary joe/jane - middle aged with kids, short on time, relatively new to or returned to biking, investing oversized sum to feed his/her hobby.
None of the top earning channels review the entry level bikes, nor do they actually say anything negative because of the conflict of interest. Hence, it is not clear, who is this bike for? The beginner, or the pro downhill enduro ace? We hear far too many numbers - so many millimetres or angles this and that (chain stay, BB, reach etc.) and not enough about how they ride and whether these bikes are value for money? Hence, the RUclips channels are complicit in letting the industry get away with hastily thrown together lower end bikes that are seriously flawed, and still demand thousands of dollars/pounds/euros!
My view after 2 month ownership is a degree of disappointment. The H20 is a monster truck, way too heavy, I did not expect that given that the top product is 20.8Kg! This is a major problem for intermediate/ early biker. The sheer weight detracts from being able to jump, turn, develop skill, and the poor fork/suspension platform can only described as dull and lacklustre. The internal battery and the ridiculous complicated headset with internal cables is just nuts. Importantly, something you did not point out - this is a front heavy bike, much more noticeable in my size small bike with big 750 battery taking up the whole length of the down tube. It is difficult to convince this bike to jump (more speed, more hop) and then control the tendency of front end dipping. Why oh why do I have to spend several thousand of hard earned cash to bring it up to speed? Should I really even try to bring the weight down - not possible.
The result is that 2 months down the line, I am desperately trying to sell the bike and buy a Specialized - the market, as it is, I can't even get half price for a 2 month old bike.
I do not believe the Orbea Wild 2023 Alloy models are value for money - period. It turns out, all the R&D went in to developing the carbon race winning models. There is a unhealthy collusion between industry and channels/social platforms that promote these bikes - it makes it impossible to get an honest view of products that are more expensive than the cars we drive.
How much do you weigh if you don’t mind me asking?
And how much does the bike weight?
Also if you look at the bike, it's a must to change for a better fork and probably also for a better shock. Besides this I'm not sure if it's just on your small size. You could have same issues with the top model, because of your weight and frame size.
Thanks for the informative video, highly appreciated. I ordered my H20 just a few hours ago. It will be my first ebike, been riding analog fs since 2002.
Greetings from germany
Thank you for the view! It’s an amazing bike. You are gonna love it!
Danny is a legend. I love this bike. I have been asking him to do a bike check. Glad I got to see this thing finally. I am a UOSOCAL super fan.🙏🙏🙏
Danny is awesome! And the Orbea wild is such a nice bike!
@@frankiesemtb 💯
What a beauty was thinking of getting on but got a Kenevo expert instead, and now upgrading it to be the ultimate DH emtb.
Love the reviews great to see what other people are riding.
Thank you! The kenevo is a badass bike!
I have a customized M10 arriving in about two weeks 🤘 Matte carbon, Fox Factory, throwing on Magura calipers and some Kryptotal's. Cannot wait.
Congrats! That sounds like a Sick build! Amazing bike! Ive got another rider interview coming soon
Sweet rig! I've heard nothing but great things about the new Wild and UOSOCAL Danny does thorough research and reviews so not surprised he pulled the trigger on this bike. Love the upgrades and lovin the local bike check series Franky! I have a 2023 Pivot Shuttle LT with a few minor upgrades if you're interested in checking it out. Let me know 🤙
Thank you mark! Orbea is a great bike and I’m More than happy to check out the shuttle LT! Pm me on IG:@senditfrankie
Great info. Danny’s happy with his purchase. The man does his demo research for sure 🤣 I’ve been impressed with it, love the Bosch motor. Everyone has to find that right bike geo, but when you do the bikes magic.
HMU if and when you want to do the 🦆 I’ve got some solid feedback on it now .
great guest to have on the show! I'll definitely hit you up for the decoy!
Great video. Love the edit.
Thank you for the Interview!
Sweet looking rig big Danny!
Hey Frankie, good stuff. That's a great looking bike.
It’s a great bike
Another amazing video in the book ! Good job Frankie ! And congrats to Daddy! Sick bike
Thank you Rick!
I meant Danny. Lol
I bought a 2022 M Team new in 2023 with upgraded Kiox display. Full Fox factory suspension XT 4 piston brakes and upgraded Orbea carbon wheels on DT 350 hubs for $6000 out the door! Gotta look around . Jenson is fine for small parts but for completes builds?
Great price for a MTeam!
great video ..i saw he changed his stem .. did he buy an additional part from orbea to run an aftermarket stem ?
I will have to ask Danny
@@frankiesemtb thanks much
There is a kit you can buy from Orbea. Or, you can just sand of the peak of the top plate that is below the stem.
@@uosocal ok ok sounds good.
I also have this bike in a m10 and I removed the stop block inside the head tube and then removed 10mm from the peak of the plastic piece and then put a 10mm spacer on top of that. I run a Yoshimura ENDH stem and it’s so nice now!!
Thanks for this review. Regarding the Fox 38 Float Factory fork, there is a 180mm option. Would you recommend this? My stock Orbea has 160mm travel.
I am not sure if going 180mm would be ok for the Wild. Usually people upgrade the rear linkage to make the correct changes to the geometry so they can fit a longer fork without issues. I would check with orbea first if voids any warranty on the frame. Than proceed from there!
Hi there great choice quick Question please is the fork a standard 1 11/8th tapered or a straight 1.5 tube please Cheers Shane
I am not sure but most bikes these days are tapered.. I’ll have to dig around to find out
@@frankiesemtb thx pal as I'm guessing they are the FSA headset top is 1.5 for the cables etc cheers Shane
What’s the spring rate?
Regarding the Fox DH2X shock, which size was installed?
nice bike, but non-removable battery easily disqualifies it for me and a lot of my mates... :(
meanwhile Levo FTW ! also for full integration (controls, LCD/LED and Ant+ so you can see data on your Garmin)
is this a competitor to the Turbo Levo?
I’d say yes even tho it is a 160mm travel.
@@frankiesemtb do you have a video comparing the rise vs wild ??
I do not, but those two are very different bikes. The rise is an super light ebike with lower torque and smaller battery focused on light and rely on more leg power than the wild. If it’s your first ebike I would recommend the wild. Always better to have more power and torque than finding out you need more on the trails.
do we really need rampage-able components? sure they are nice to have, but do we NEED them? especially when it comes to forks? at least i dont do 60" jumps, so for me the answer is no - i rather spend that money on 2 sweet biketrips....
can you not add Kiox 300 Display to this model?
I am not sure if you can. I just did a quick search online and it says all kiox are compatible with all smart systems 22’ and above. I will have to dig further to get more info
@@frankiesemtb the motor is BOSCH Performance Line CX BDU3741 which is smart compatible.
Weight?
Thats not true, the XL Frames from Orbea tend to be a little more compact than other brands
Can you review the Commencal e-mtbs TR?
Planning on it! Commencal is not too far away from me here in SoCal
Btw great channel! Hope to see it grow. After a while of searching for an emtb, I finally picked up a small sized TR. First performance Mtb, apparently, Commencal is one of few who can ship an Emtb without sending it to a local assembler.
I live close to Egypt and honestly there isn’t much choices when it comes to emtbs :(
Some of these extended dropper posts have broken causing severe rectal and intestine injuries.
Oof 😥
I will never buy a bike with headset or stem cable routing!
Just stupid that companies think this is a good idea!
Its a clean look but def makes maintenance a real pain!
I actually like it. Keep the cockpit clean.
If you go all wireless and make all your mods at the same time, grease the headset well and don’t pressure wash your bike it’s a clean minimalistic cockpit with low maintenance! I agree it’s not necessary but looks mint when done properly! 🤘🏻