Sifu Culreif but “What if Nappa turned good” didn’t have Future Trunks, and “What if Raditz turned good” is going through a retcon. I think Masako is starting to change his rule.
@Epic Libtardian true, but Masako already put the heart to this comment, and editing it would make the heart go away. Besides, I think the point got across.
@@analbeads1311 Maybe once you are immortal its something which can't be undone by the dragon (or any other dragon beside Super Shenron), since the Androids could not be returned to their humanity. The dragons can't directly affect beings stronger than them (even if that's really fuzzy, since they can revive them). In other words, the Dragons have a built-in weakness that they can't magically make the antagonist pop out of existence.
@@analbeads1311 Anyone else think the Androids (well, technically cyborgs) never bothered to undo it because 17 and 18 never really saw a downside to their condition once they got redeemed and Cell was defeated?
@@bobsomething4733 I would think they would just want their humanity restored and to live a peaceful life. Like we say with 17 in Super, they probably never even wanted the fighting life. Although its just an assumption, In the dbz manga, it's sort of implied that they never wanted to be androids and Gero forced them.
It's not really in his character though. He hated mortals because he thought they were foolish. like all of them. He saw many races of mortals foolishly do foolish stuff like wars and all so why would he change his mind?
contrôleur du temps à temps partiel Why do any Dragon Ball villains change their minds, Goku talks to them and poof they turn good after a fight or two.
Cell with his tail stuck in vegeta: Damn this guy is like an all-you-can-eat buffet! Vegeta: *mildly bored humming as his regeneration keeps un-doing cells attempt to drain him*
If Vegeta still gets interested in Bulma... I feel like he's going to be alot more of the dominate one... to put it gently. O_O "Oh, I'm not here for the Dragon Ball, (I already got that)." "What?" "Spread 'em" D:
What if Goten was Born First? By this I mean: What if Goten and Gohan’s personalities were swapped around with eachother or they were swapped entirely. This would have big effects on Goten in the Cell Saga and Gohan being the reluctant kid he is in the Buu Saga.
Photonix so a what if where Goten was born first with his canon personality (Basically a carefree and Goku-Like and not that bright) where Gohan was born during the seven year gap with his nervous and emotional personality but has a massive potential and is very book smart? That is what you mean right?
While I’ve seen this idea float around in the comment sections of the what if stories, I’ve never thought of any questions, and my idea of a good what if story is one that has answers to good questions. I have a few now. What triggers the change in personality? Is one Goku and the other Kakarot? (By which I mean names. Launch’s personalities don’t have separate names, so that’s why I ask) What changes will be made to Dragon Ball before Z because of this?
@@usablemetal1703 that makes you wonder, If Vegeta recieved "only immune to death Immortality" instead of "immediate healing factor immortality" in the way of "sure you can heal from lethal injury, but injuries, like, say, a broken spine, only heal at its normal course, if they heal at all", so vegeta can still be defeated. just break his spine, and unless he receives tratment, he is basically an "immortal paraplegic"
I would say Goku gets to King Ki planet just in time to see Vegeta slaughter Gohan and Krillin. Goku goes silent for a moment, King Ki tries to talk to him but Goku ki grows as his hair begins to stand. With a flash of light king Ki planet is almost destroyed with Goku's fury.
A Theory of the FUUUUTURE! The Z fighters make it back by the skin of their teeth thanks to the Earth Dragonballs but not before destroying all of the space pods and ships on the planet. They have delayed Vegeta because he can still travel in space, albeit painfully and slowly. With Goku gone they now need to hide their time until Vegeta comes to seek revenge. So they must find help and their is a Doctor with an Army of Androids who hates Saiyans. The clock is ticking.
Un yeah eventually eternal life means eternal apathy just ask the q from Star Trek chances are he’ll use the earth dragon balls to make himself not immortal
Cell was never immortal. All he had was exceptional regenerative capabilities because of his genetically enhanced cells from Piccolo. Also, in the English dub they said Cell regenerates from a single cell but he actually can only regenerate from a cluster of cells in his head, his nucleus I believe he called it. Furthermore, regenerating consumes a lot of energy, it's not like Buu's regeneration, who also wasn't immortal despite being able to regenerate from a single atom without any energy loss at all.
The series asspulled Super Perfect Cell having full stamina and energy after regenerating. Considering Goku's Teleport Kamehameha nuked Cells energy supply to the point where even Goku himself felt bad for Cell and gave him a senzu bean before fighting Gohan, you would think Super Perfect Cell would be panting and struggling to even be a threat despite his powerup, considering he literally used up all of his own energy to blow himself up AND had to regenerate from either a single cell or a small cluster, which would make the fatigue he took from Goku's blast nothing by comparison.
Revive goku and Make goku also immortal with the dragon balls then after a year make vegeta not immoral (or keeping them immortal and making such a racket beerus wakes up)
@@acarter5111 no, that'd be too bad for Goku then, because even if you take vegetas immortality he'd still be too strong for Goku if Goku wasn't immortal
just use mafuba, Veggie would be dumb enough to not dodge it thinking that it is another attack which will grant him another zenkai boost and come on this attack is known by Roshi Tien Kami & Piccolo
I'll be honest, I haven't. Especially if he gets his immortality wish. Immortal villains or heroes are boring, unless said immortality has a price associated with it. Loss of sanity (to the point where the immortal one becomes a gibbering, immobile mess), 'revival' takes time, something along those lines. As Dragonball's version does not have those drawbacks, it's essentially game set and match for any powerful being that wishes for it and isn't stupid about it (such as Freiza and Vegeta).
What if Gine went to Earth with Goku, but Raditz never turns good, and Nappa does turn good and Gine wishes back Bardock, and Raditz becomes a cyborg thanks to Gero. Think of Trunks absolute confusion
What if regular Future trunks comes back to a what-if timeline where all the masako what-ifs were somehow combined into a single timeline without contradictions? Trunks: you know what? Bye. (leaves) Later Trunks: hey, mom, you built a machine that travels to different universes! Like, REALLY different universes.
What if Goku after hearing Vegetas request was like: “Ok sure, but, I still get to live in earth and you can’t take it over.” Goku knows that if he joined Vegeta he’d get to fight a bunch of string guys. I don’t think he’d pass that up
You know, I thought that Frieza would decide to explode the planet before Goku come. Because it would make he prince suffer in space by oxygen and vacuum.
The vacuum of space may not affect him, but the sheer distance between stars certainly might. Let's assume, after the Zenkai Boost from Namek blowing up, that Vegeta can travel at roughly FTL speeds on his own. It would take him at least 5-6 years to travel to the closest star, let alone find a star system that is inhabited to start his new empire on. He wouldn't know where Earth is in relation to Namek(everyone was magically teleported there from Namek in canon), and anything that WOULD know was destroyed when Namek imploded. He could end up wandering for thousands of years, alone. That effectively removes him as a threat to the Z-Fighters, and possibly even Earth as a whole. Earth falls to the Androids three/four years later, so even if Vegeta does show up, he finds a devastated ghost world where Earth used to be. No new Saiyan empire here. ALTERNATIVELY: Vegeta waits for the Cold Empire to show up to investigate Freiza's disappearance (if he believes they would even do so), hijacks the ship, game set match for the galaxy, possibly even all of U7.
@@thomashoughton5270 In Super, Gohan has to go Super Saiyan 2 and hold it for a while (while actively dying, mind) so Goku could sense him from across the galaxy and Instant Transmission his way there. Vegeta has neither Instant Transmission nor a signature that powerful to sense. The strongest Ki to sense, Goku, he just vaporized. The rest are too weak to sense across interstellar distances. It took me all of 2 minutes to figure that out, and less to type it. Unlike some people, I learned how to actually type.
I think honestly goku wouldn't even bother going to vegeta vs frieza if his friends were somewhere else Once Piccolo is back mission accomplish and they leave. I think worse case they just tell Kami to undo vegeta wish
Without the risk of death (and the thrill associated with surpassing it), an immortal Vegeta would be 'less of a Saiyan' because of it. We all know that Toriyama-sensai doesn't plan this far in advance, but I believe that's what made Vegeta's original desire for immortality significant; his loathing towards Freeza went so deep that he was willing to throw away that part of his Saiyan pride forever (literally) so that his people could regain theirs.
It is nice to see a what if "immortality got granted" story, considering all the times characters tried to get that specific wish in the series. Very excited to see where you go with this one.
I do have a couple of idea of how the z fighters could deal with this: Wish away Vegetas Immortality and have him stuck on Exploding Namek. Lock him in the Room of Spirit and Time. He would likely not be strong enough to break out at this point in the story. Lock him away with Garlick Jr. Have somebody become immortal and have them fight Vegeta for the time being.
Objection! Depending on how immortality and the zenkai boost are described, immortality would likely disable the zenkai boost, because you can't be boosted by a near-death experience once you gave death the cold shoulder. As long as the zenkai boost isn't tied to death, but rather something like exhaustion, or immortality working like an instantaneous regeneration, quick enough to seem immortal-like without actually be immortality, or anything else in that department, i see no way the situation with Vegeta and Frieza ends up the way you described. For this argument, i also used the dragonball fanwiki site for immortality, which referenced Goku Black's refusal of using the super dragon balls for immortality as an argument for why this wouldn't work. The same article also states that not just aging and death are halted, but also power gain through training, and pain is still affecting the immortal being as shown in the case of Garlic Jr.
1) Garlic Jr. isn't and never has been canon. Future Zamasu never experienced pain after becoming immortal in Super (which IS canon). 2) Goku Black loved the thrill of a challenge and he was already satisfied having Goku's body and wanted to become stronger on his own through exploiting the zenkai boost - that was the reason he didn't want to become immortal. 3) There has never been a statement given, in-universe or real life, that immortality and zenkais are incompatible with each other. Only speculation by fans. 4) The dragonball wiki is great, but a lot of the claims it makes lack citations that back up those claims.
Then Goku wouldn’t be injured enough to gain a Zenkai boost powerful enough to let him go toe to toe with Frieza. Even if he did turn Super Saiyan, his base power would be too low for that boost to mean anything when Frieza goes 100%.
I've always thought that the zenkai boost was just dependant on the injury. Near death would give you a full zenkai boost but getting a cut or something would give you a tiny one just to help with healing.
Okay... I loved the Raditz turning good, I loved the Nappa turning good... This... This I don't love... This is by far the BEST work yet! And it's only one part on something that's never been explored UNTIL NOW! MasakoX, you have outdone yourself This time and greatly so! Keep it UP!
Having this be today's what-if scenario. It's a nice change of pace from the usual "what if this guy/gal turned into a goodie two shoes?" It was almost a running gag for you.
Trunks is going to be SO confused.
That is if vegeta wants to make trunks with bulma if he finds her on that planet
@@ZRtheHedgehog77 Don't forget Masako's personal rule for What-Ifs: Future Trunks' timeline remains the same (April-fools notwithstanding).
There’d be little to no need to hand Goku the heart virus medicine I suppose. As vegeta would off him again.
Sifu Culreif but “What if Nappa turned good” didn’t have Future Trunks, and “What if Raditz turned good” is going through a retcon. I think Masako is starting to change his rule.
We also don't know how immortality affects progeny. He may not be able to have Trunks now, or Trunks could inherit his immortality.
He'd still be voiced by Brian Drummond.
*Mondo Cool*
Augustus Abram That’s way past cool.
Augustus Abram oh Lordy
Real talk, I could never imagine that voice of Vegeta being a good guy. He's just too deliciously slimy lol
@@georgeescott05 that's Ryan Drummond
Roshi must prove himself once again, time for the Evil Containment Wave!
Noice
Finally, a spin on the classic what if style. And all by adding the word “Never to the mix”.
Noooo not Vegeta
You should have only put “never” in quotes, incorrect If you put that while phrase in
@Epic Libtardian true, but Masako already put the heart to this comment, and editing it would make the heart go away. Besides, I think the point got across.
JJ R fax
The most wholesome grammar correction that has ever happened on the internet is right here.
First wish: make Vegeta immortal.
Vegeta leaves.
Second wish: Make Vegeta not immortal.
Problem solved.
Would that work? I'd assume if you can refuse to be transported by the dragon like Goku did, you can refuse to have immortality taken away.
@@analbeads1311 Maybe once you are immortal its something which can't be undone by the dragon (or any other dragon beside Super Shenron), since the Androids could not be returned to their humanity. The dragons can't directly affect beings stronger than them (even if that's really fuzzy, since they can revive them). In other words, the Dragons have a built-in weakness that they can't magically make the antagonist pop out of existence.
@@bobsomething4733 Honestly, if it can be undone I think only the person who made the wish/the wish affected can un-wish it
@@analbeads1311 Anyone else think the Androids (well, technically cyborgs) never bothered to undo it because 17 and 18 never really saw a downside to their condition once they got redeemed and Cell was defeated?
@@bobsomething4733 I would think they would just want their humanity restored and to live a peaceful life. Like we say with 17 in Super, they probably never even wanted the fighting life. Although its just an assumption, In the dbz manga, it's sort of implied that they never wanted to be androids and Gero forced them.
What if Zamasu felt compasion for mortals and fought against the evil Zamasu?
Ah...A divide in timelines. One with Zamasu understanding mortalkind.
Get masako to see this and comment this on every video
It's not really in his character though. He hated mortals because he thought they were foolish. like all of them. He saw many races of mortals foolishly do foolish stuff like wars and all so why would he change his mind?
There is a fan manga where that happens. It’s something where Trunks comes back after the Gokhan Black saga. I’ll send to a link if I find it.
contrôleur du temps à temps partiel
Why do any Dragon Ball villains change their minds, Goku talks to them and poof they turn good after a fight or two.
Vegeta: Join me, Kakarot, and together we can rule the universe as Saiyans reborn!
Goku: How’d that go for your bald friend?
Vegeta: Fair enough...
He said the same thing in the Ocean Dub!
Cell with his tail stuck in vegeta: Damn this guy is like an all-you-can-eat buffet!
Vegeta: *mildly bored humming as his regeneration keeps un-doing cells attempt to drain him*
What if vegeta never turned good? So Bulma gets the bad boy permanently?
Spoilers:
An immortal bad boy? Thanos eat you heart out.
Loki was also immortal...and look at what happened to him
If Vegeta still gets interested in Bulma... I feel like he's going to be alot more of the dominate one... to put it gently. O_O "Oh, I'm not here for the Dragon Ball, (I already got that)."
"What?"
"Spread 'em" D:
Raiguy wtf
Loki was not immortal
@@raiguy9424 he isnt immortal h3 just has a long life span
What if Goten was Born First?
By this I mean: What if Goten and Gohan’s personalities were swapped around with eachother or they were swapped entirely. This would have big effects on Goten in the Cell Saga and Gohan being the reluctant kid he is in the Buu Saga.
Photonix so a what if where Goten was born first with his canon personality (Basically a carefree and Goku-Like and not that bright) where Gohan was born during the seven year gap with his nervous and emotional personality but has a massive potential and is very book smart?
That is what you mean right?
What if Goku obtained a split personality after bumping his head?
Goku would be Doppio to Kakarot's Diavolo.
People would think he’s related to Launch
@@spikethedragon341 Ah I see so you are a man of culture too
While I’ve seen this idea float around in the comment sections of the what if stories, I’ve never thought of any questions, and my idea of a good what if story is one that has answers to good questions. I have a few now.
What triggers the change in personality?
Is one Goku and the other Kakarot? (By which I mean names. Launch’s personalities don’t have separate names, so that’s why I ask)
What changes will be made to Dragon Ball before Z because of this?
@@demix2040 well i mean one of his personalities can turn Blonde....
I've enjoyed lots of your What if's (especially the more bleak ones) but this ones takes the cake!
I can't wait for the next part of this!
What if piccolo never turned good?
No...?
Ok......
That what if would be very good
@@Sg190th That's basically "WHAT IF DRAGONBALL Z NEVER HAPPENED?!"
@@MrDrProfessor4 Dbz never happened would be if Raditz never landed on Earth or if Goku is the same monkey boy from Dragon Ball lol
That's basically happening in the What if Raditz never came to Earth series.
@@Sg190th sounds interesting
To me, Dragonball Z is a "What if Vegeta turned good?"
Otherwise known as, 'Frieza gets bullied by an unkillable short man.'
The Zenkais boosts most likely work like the bigger the injury the bigger the power up
Literally, in the manga, it says that it's only when a Saiyan recovers from the brink of death.
SSVCloud I’m aware but apparently there are other cases
"You're not dealing with the average saiyan anymore frieza"
What if Mercenary Tao fought the Saiyans and trained with the other Z Fighters? In a sense, what if Tao turned neutral?
This vegeta with op zenkai boost. VS dragon Ball multiverse broly in legendary super sayain.
vegeta would just get stronger and stronger infinitely
@@usablemetal1703 Just like Multiverse's fanwanked Broly.
@@usablemetal1703 that makes you wonder, If Vegeta recieved "only immune to death Immortality" instead of "immediate healing factor immortality" in the way of "sure you can heal from lethal injury, but injuries, like, say, a broken spine, only heal at its normal course, if they heal at all", so vegeta can still be defeated. just break his spine, and unless he receives tratment, he is basically an "immortal paraplegic"
@@IBeforeAExceptAfterK I imagine the universe multiverse Broly is from is just the dreams of a Broly lover
@@thnkng Specifically Salagir's
I would say Goku gets to King Ki planet just in time to see Vegeta slaughter Gohan and Krillin.
Goku goes silent for a moment, King Ki tries to talk to him but Goku ki grows as his hair begins to stand. With a flash of light king Ki planet is almost destroyed with Goku's fury.
I agree this shoud happen in the next part
Seems legit >_>
Gohan: Vegeta NO!
Krillin: Vegeta NO!
Vegeta: VEGETA YES!
A Theory of the FUUUUTURE!
The Z fighters make it back by the skin of their teeth thanks to the Earth Dragonballs but not before destroying all of the space pods and ships on the planet.
They have delayed Vegeta because he can still travel in space, albeit painfully and slowly.
With Goku gone they now need to hide their time until Vegeta comes to seek revenge.
So they must find help and their is a Doctor with an Army of Androids who hates Saiyans.
The clock is ticking.
Can Vegeta travel in space? He might just become a Vegeta popsicle screaming as he hurdles through space.
@@domehammer
Eventually Vegeta stopped thinking
@@domehammer there's no reason he can't
A good old Solar Flare + Mafuba combo and Vegeta is donezo .
Do you think Vegeta is a idiot he already saw Goku use that so he wouldn't even get hit
hajime Hinata How do you NOT get hit with a solar flare?? you cant block it, it’s literally light.
@@aa-pw7cw close your eyes? Or Look Away?
@@mrrelatable2898 this is very reasonable since this isn't the solar flare in super where he can blind people closing their eyes
"Begin to pound on frieza"-oh my
Freeza’s mind: “I miss Zarbon...”
Immortality is a curse. Vegeta's gonna regret that wish soon.
Soon being a relative here.
Actually no is zamasu was corrupted Vegeta however he isn't
Vegeta: Now that I am immortal, I am completely empty now
I think he'll end up in a Saitama situation where all he wants is a good fight but can't really get one since he's pretty much invincible.
Un yeah eventually eternal life means eternal apathy just ask the q from Star Trek chances are he’ll use the earth dragon balls to make himself not immortal
I cant believe he made a raditz is a farmer joke almost 2 years ago then made a what if about it in a way, hope he goes back to it and fixes it
Goku: well that’s not very nice!
Vegeta: OF COURSE NOT IM ****ING EVIL!!
Wow honestly this what it was so refreshing and so interesting. You did such a great job Masako I really hope there's a part 2
Mr. Popo, Vegeta thinks he's all powerful!
Mr. Popo: he does, does he? *laughs maniacly*
Vegeta: I’m the strongest in the universe!
Popo: Pecking order
Love the video as always, Masako!
Alternate Title: What if Vegeta was a Renegade For Life?
Quick note: We HAVE seen an "immortal" saiyan: Perfect Cell.
Cell was never immortal. All he had was exceptional regenerative capabilities because of his genetically enhanced cells from Piccolo. Also, in the English dub they said Cell regenerates from a single cell but he actually can only regenerate from a cluster of cells in his head, his nucleus I believe he called it. Furthermore, regenerating consumes a lot of energy, it's not like Buu's regeneration, who also wasn't immortal despite being able to regenerate from a single atom without any energy loss at all.
The series asspulled Super Perfect Cell having full stamina and energy after regenerating. Considering Goku's Teleport Kamehameha nuked Cells energy supply to the point where even Goku himself felt bad for Cell and gave him a senzu bean before fighting Gohan, you would think Super Perfect Cell would be panting and struggling to even be a threat despite his powerup, considering he literally used up all of his own energy to blow himself up AND had to regenerate from either a single cell or a small cluster, which would make the fatigue he took from Goku's blast nothing by comparison.
We've entered the darkest timeline, ladies and gentlemen...
That was awesome, wow, IMO this is one of your best what if videos!
Good what if masakox👌
Another great what if. Keep up the good work masako!
Vegeta is a good guy. Sure, he lives in his own world but he shares it with other people!
TFS reference...?
"Ho-how could you possibly have become so strong, so quickly?!"
"I've been filling papers for weeks. WEEKS!"
So lets see... The androids will arrive and cell would be perfect quicker
Majin buu would still be around
And Beerus might wake
I actually asked for ‘What if Vegeta gained immortality on Namek?’ about two years ago, and now it’s here...it’s almost exactly what I expected.
Revive goku and Make goku also immortal with the dragon balls then after a year make vegeta not immoral (or keeping them immortal and making such a racket beerus wakes up)
FuranDuron did you watch the video?
goku probably wouldn't want immortality, just take vegeta's away.
@@acarter5111 no, that'd be too bad for Goku then, because even if you take vegetas immortality he'd still be too strong for Goku if Goku wasn't immortal
just use mafuba, Veggie would be dumb enough to not dodge it thinking that it is another attack which will grant him another zenkai boost and come on this attack is known by Roshi Tien Kami & Piccolo
@@barthazard5557 I like your thinking, it would be what ultimately gets rid of vegeta, at least until the seal is broken.
"Twas not a matter of if, but when."
Been expecting this one to show up eventually.
Well, we can’t say that we haven’t wondered about this for a while.
I'll be honest, I haven't. Especially if he gets his immortality wish. Immortal villains or heroes are boring, unless said immortality has a price associated with it. Loss of sanity (to the point where the immortal one becomes a gibbering, immobile mess), 'revival' takes time, something along those lines. As Dragonball's version does not have those drawbacks, it's essentially game set and match for any powerful being that wishes for it and isn't stupid about it (such as Freiza and Vegeta).
Trunks: WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS TIME MACHINE?!
What if Gine went to Earth with Goku, but Raditz never turns good, and Nappa does turn good and Gine wishes back Bardock, and Raditz becomes a cyborg thanks to Gero.
Think of Trunks absolute confusion
Ssssoooooo much internal screaming
Hey Trunks you could not see the future !!!
What if regular Future trunks comes back to a what-if timeline where all the masako what-ifs were somehow combined into a single timeline without contradictions?
Trunks: you know what? Bye.
(leaves)
Later
Trunks: hey, mom, you built a machine that travels to different universes! Like, REALLY different universes.
@@Thuazabi Poor Trunks in the end never travels to his past xD.
What if Goku after hearing Vegetas request was like: “Ok sure, but, I still get to live in earth and you can’t take it over.”
Goku knows that if he joined Vegeta he’d get to fight a bunch of string guys. I don’t think he’d pass that up
1:29
Vegeta: I like her butt, don't look at me
So... Zenkai + Immortality = *_A literally limitless generator of power_*
Wait this is wrong
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE MASAKO?!
UNSUBSCRIBE!!!
You forgot to say UNSUBSCRIBED!!
Beat me to UNSUBSCRIBE, lol.
But Masako! How can you leave is with such a cliffhanger!??? Please I implore you to continue with this what if!!!!
I love that Vegeta gets his revenge on Frieza and not Goku, also I would like to see a what if Vegeta became immortal but still turned good.
This makes me interested in a What if Buu never befriended Mr. Satan.
8:36 This pain.... WILL MAKE ME STRONGER
This kept me up While I’m doing my all nighter. Thanks bro
This seems this might send things in a *slight* (complete) drop in to chaos.
Your what if’s are dope . So many twists and turns
You know, I thought that Frieza would decide to explode the planet before Goku come. Because it would make he prince suffer in space by oxygen and vacuum.
It wouldn't affect him at all. Would be a waste of time
@@thomashoughton5270 Well Vegeta would be suffocating, but healing at the same time. It's a torture state!
The vacuum of space may not affect him, but the sheer distance between stars certainly might. Let's assume, after the Zenkai Boost from Namek blowing up, that Vegeta can travel at roughly FTL speeds on his own. It would take him at least 5-6 years to travel to the closest star, let alone find a star system that is inhabited to start his new empire on. He wouldn't know where Earth is in relation to Namek(everyone was magically teleported there from Namek in canon), and anything that WOULD know was destroyed when Namek imploded. He could end up wandering for thousands of years, alone. That effectively removes him as a threat to the Z-Fighters, and possibly even Earth as a whole.
Earth falls to the Androids three/four years later, so even if Vegeta does show up, he finds a devastated ghost world where Earth used to be. No new Saiyan empire here.
ALTERNATIVELY: Vegeta waits for the Cold Empire to show up to investigate Freiza's disappearance (if he believes they would even do so), hijacks the ship, game set match for the galaxy, possibly even all of U7.
@@BizarreCoyote Ok, vegeta can sense energy.....so therefore you just wasted probably 20 minutes writing that lmao
@@thomashoughton5270 In Super, Gohan has to go Super Saiyan 2 and hold it for a while (while actively dying, mind) so Goku could sense him from across the galaxy and Instant Transmission his way there. Vegeta has neither Instant Transmission nor a signature that powerful to sense.
The strongest Ki to sense, Goku, he just vaporized. The rest are too weak to sense across interstellar distances.
It took me all of 2 minutes to figure that out, and less to type it. Unlike some people, I learned how to actually type.
I think that Goku would be revived with Earth’s dragon balls and later on he’d use the Mafuba to seal an immortal Vegeta .
I think honestly goku wouldn't even bother going to vegeta vs frieza if his friends were somewhere else
Once Piccolo is back mission accomplish and they leave. I think worse case they just tell Kami to undo vegeta wish
Would Goku really turn down a chance to fight though?
@@Hillthugsta
I think if he feels those powers he probably wouldn't would go to earth train so he can compete
Without the risk of death (and the thrill associated with surpassing it), an immortal Vegeta would be 'less of a Saiyan' because of it. We all know that Toriyama-sensai doesn't plan this far in advance, but I believe that's what made Vegeta's original desire for immortality significant; his loathing towards Freeza went so deep that he was willing to throw away that part of his Saiyan pride forever (literally) so that his people could regain theirs.
Could Shenron make Vegeta mortal again? If so, that's one problem solved. Of course, he'll still be stronger than everyone.
It is nice to see a what if "immortality got granted" story, considering all the times characters tried to get that specific wish in the series. Very excited to see where you go with this one.
Masako x : annnnd goku is vaporized
Me: *claps*Yes! Now thats vegeta!
Yes finally!!!
I thought about this idea when I kept seeing your what if [blank] turned good.
What if Hercule trained with Roshi part 3
Turning a trope on it's head! This was really good and I can't wait for another part
Zenkai boost only activates by healing from near death injury
Thank god I'm not the only one who caught that. SMH Masako 😑🤦♂️
goku black disagrees
one strong attack or painful hit seems to do it
Quiet Guy Josh ikr
A year later and what if raditz was a farmer finally exists
Vegeta remains a villain but so far is being a total hero.
" Now to get all the women "
1. Bulma
2. Android 18
3. Android 21
4. Vados
Thank you for putting mine and other people's idea
What if vegeta kept people alive to work for him (nappa zarbon cui)
I do have a couple of idea of how the z fighters could deal with this:
Wish away Vegetas Immortality and have him stuck on Exploding Namek.
Lock him in the Room of Spirit and Time. He would likely not be strong enough to break out at this point in the story.
Lock him away with Garlick Jr.
Have somebody become immortal and have them fight Vegeta for the time being.
MASAKO WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!
Objection! Depending on how immortality and the zenkai boost are described, immortality would likely disable the zenkai boost, because you can't be boosted by a near-death experience once you gave death the cold shoulder. As long as the zenkai boost isn't tied to death, but rather something like exhaustion, or immortality working like an instantaneous regeneration, quick enough to seem immortal-like without actually be immortality, or anything else in that department, i see no way the situation with Vegeta and Frieza ends up the way you described.
For this argument, i also used the dragonball fanwiki site for immortality, which referenced Goku Black's refusal of using the super dragon balls for immortality as an argument for why this wouldn't work. The same article also states that not just aging and death are halted, but also power gain through training, and pain is still affecting the immortal being as shown in the case of Garlic Jr.
1) Garlic Jr. isn't and never has been canon. Future Zamasu never experienced pain after becoming immortal in Super (which IS canon).
2) Goku Black loved the thrill of a challenge and he was already satisfied having Goku's body and wanted to become stronger on his own through exploiting the zenkai boost - that was the reason he didn't want to become immortal.
3) There has never been a statement given, in-universe or real life, that immortality and zenkais are incompatible with each other. Only speculation by fans.
4) The dragonball wiki is great, but a lot of the claims it makes lack citations that back up those claims.
Literally been watching a what if when this pops up
You've turned Vegeta into a Phoenix and I love it. I wonder if he needs super sayion anymore and how his eventual fight with Zamasu would go down.
i always like bad vegeta more than good vegeta
That's what make me a fan of him I the first place
THIS “WHAT IF” WAS FIRE🔥🔥🔥
Gohan will get enraged, and he will turn Super Saiyan but then all the earthlings and namekians will be teleported to earth.
-the zenkai spam is accurate, see goku black
-i am VERY interested to see how immortal vegeta plays out, excellent work :3
But what if Ginyu never switched bodies with Goku on Namek?
Then Goku wouldn’t be injured enough to gain a Zenkai boost powerful enough to let him go toe to toe with Frieza. Even if he did turn Super Saiyan, his base power would be too low for that boost to mean anything when Frieza goes 100%.
JJ R dende healing?
And would Goku fight Vegeta now since he was never placed in the healing pod due to his injuries with Ginyu
I've always thought that the zenkai boost was just dependant on the injury. Near death would give you a full zenkai boost but getting a cut or something would give you a tiny one just to help with healing.
What if Captain Ginyu turned good
What if Trunks stayed in the present after the cell games
Please continue this What If. I think it has so much potential. Imagine Cell and Vegeta having a regeneration match off to see who can heal better.
Easy, make one of more of the X-Fighters immortal as well. An unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.
Is this a reboot of the now-extinct _"What if Vegeta was the first Super Saiyan?"_
What if Gohan never stopped training after the cell games
Buu Saga would be cut in half.
He needs to do this video
what a twist. I love this Masako. Another.
Would it be possible for Goku to turn SSJ in Other World, because that's what I predict next
Okay... I loved the Raditz turning good, I loved the Nappa turning good... This... This I don't love... This is by far the BEST work yet! And it's only one part on something that's never been explored UNTIL NOW! MasakoX, you have outdone yourself This time and greatly so! Keep it UP!
I Have A Video Idea!
*What If Goku And Vegeta Fused With The Potara Earrings Early?*
When would goku learn about fusion? He got that info from otherworld post cell games
With potaras or dance?
How would they get Potaras earlier exactly? Also, Vegeta would not agree...
So... Vegeta becomes a non-4th wall breaking, sadistic, ever evolving Deadpool.
Nice,
What if Turles was canon and turned good?
How does this channel not already have 1 mil
hey MasakoX love your vid can you do a what if goten was born first
3:01 As far as I understood that, the more severe the injury, the bigger the boost. Like, a paper cut will boost your power by 1 or 2 for example
Frist Goku, then Piccolo, and now Vegeta.
Edit: Maybe they'll seal Vegeta away or something.
Having this be today's what-if scenario. It's a nice change of pace from the usual "what if this guy/gal turned into a goodie two shoes?" It was almost a running gag for you.
Also can you please do if Ginyu turned good it doesn’t have to be the force just ginyu
As usual, one great What If leads me to think of another:
*What if **_Zenkai_** boosts weren't a thing?*
Everything would probably end with Frieza. If not then, then certainly with the androids.
I mean itd probably end even earlier with King Piccilo.