Rob you have become a generator. Your current is charged with information at a human level. Do you realize how many lights bulbs you are energizing around this troubled world. Thanks to you and the crew.
In a way you have become a party celebrity here in the States. I was telling stories about you and Luke at parties. When you tell someone that you have demonstrated that it possible to charge a phone from raindrops. I could have made a fortune had I taken the bets. Not only have you earned my like ... you have something much more... you have my RESPECT.
Many times the simple solutions are not used/promoted becourse they can't patent it. I wonder how mutch stronger this would bee if the gift from God was used (hemp) instead of wood base. You are truly the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks.
Rob! That perfect timing. I'm teaching my children (4&6 so we're just about there on the "3Rs") right now and for the next 3 weeks using a unit-study on the topic of paper. It's been a great way to keep them engaged and naturally asking the questions that lead into all the different subjects. Thanks for adding another bit to our studies.
Thanks for the bite of knowledge! I have always been impressed by that material in those rollers, gears and sprockets in old radios and such. I thought it was some kind of plastic.
Paper-clay uses similar fiber. The fiber is useful in other materials such as gap-filling liquid sealants and textured paints. I read something years ago (might have been New Scientist) where they were using high pressure water jets to shred cellulose down to nano-fiber and then orienting/compressing it to near transparency, apparently pound for pound it was stronger than many common steels. Sorry I don't have exact references. Thanks for sharing.
Huh, always wondered about the trunk material which had a leather texture and shredded like paper. Thank you! Yet another RMS inspired topic to add to my list of technology to explore!
Amazing, what a great way to recycle paper. Only need one addition, zinc chloride. I have to try this for sure. You my friend are a walking encyclopaedia, I'm glad that you are sharing your knowledge because it needs to be shared instead of lasting just your lifetime. Thank you.
Interesting. I’m part of the precious plastic community and will be sharing this video with them. I’d heard of this many years ago but didn’t realise how good / interesting it was .
Best vid...in .my opinion....in a long time. Hmmmm..there's got to be a battery application in the somewhere.....separator, conductive Cathode, or leave some zinc in for an Anode????
Little behind on my viewing regimen, but this was a nice little jewel of materials engineering history! I will add just for the sake of all-roundedness that earlier versions of Micarta were very successful industrial versions of 'CRP' where the C was cellulose rather than carbon. I believe it's still being made today in some capacity, though speaking broadly, most cellulose was phased out in favor of fiberglass for its rigidity (mostly due to its woven nature, though linen and canvas were/are also used for the same reason in tarps and sails of a certain period). Bakelite in the 50s was doped into linen and 'kraftpaper' for countertops and a host of materials like circuit boards (I had a few devices with these chunky circuit boards like old telephones and a TV), and I believe a phenolic resin-based formula is still available for these products today too. They also have excellent water-repellency properties, though the modern equivalents are equally effective if not slightly more fragile in regards to tensile strength. In the US and I'm sure many countries that I can't speak for directly, prescription eyeglass frames are returning to pressure-formed cellulose/thermoplastic substrates, employing pelletized base components and dyed fragments for ease of manufacture, and can look quite striking post machining. Edit: I was incorrect in the 'new' eyeglass material which turns out to be cellulose acetate. Not quite pure paper based, but we'll call it close enough. 😉
Thank you. I was totally unaware of this product. Hmm, in twenty thousand leagues under the Sea Nemo's submarine interior was made of compressed paper.
I was thinking this would be about cellophane. Turns out it was, only non transparant varieties. Never knew there was strong and dense stuff as well. And unlike Artificial Silk, Rayon, Viscose environmentally friendly.
Cellulose is by far the most common bioplastic on the planet: if we can make it perform on par with nonrenewable plastics in price and performance, it's a no-brainer to switch Also modified celluloses can be fully thermoplastic, like cellulose acetate or celluloid, one of the earliest thermoplastics used. It's flammable but that can be reduced with borax and penta-erythritol
Very awesome, thanks for sharing, I did not know about this! I have a lot of ZnCl2, now I know what to do with it :) Would be nice to stiffen paper and make the harder to tear for use as battery separators. I wonder if I give the paper a spritz of conc. zinc chloride, let it stand for a while, then rinse it, if that would work? Will have to experiment with it.
We could really do with a lot more trees to make these materials, but the difficulty has always been to get people planting them, perhaps because they don't realise just how much comes from them. Once a woodland has grown, the amount of growth that needs to be removed just to maintain it, without even felling any of the trees is incredible and it's usually got rid off on huge bonfires. Yet that material could be cooked in sealed containers and all kinds of chemical components can be stilled off such as methanol for biofuel. What's left in the container is charcoal. So these vast amounts of resources can be collected from a few acres of land, and all the while carbon and nitrogen is being sucked out of the atmosphere and building up the soil and wildlife.
@@paulbrouyere1735 unfortunately you are right. But thank God I'm soon away from crouded civilization. Big cities are in for wake up call in the verry near future.
I make a type of poor mans fiberglass or papier mache using tissue and acrylic paint, several layers of tissue saturated with the paint and allowed to dry it nearly water proof and is extremely tough, it resists tearing in all direction
Is it waterproof or made water proof? Thinking about replacement for paper plates, bowls, and cutlery. If it can be molded, maybe a replacement for plastic bottles. Leather belts for vegans.
Paper. WHAAAAT? Thank you Rob for reminding us yet again! how so much "stuff" we think is new, is old and forgotten. Old, very old statues made of PAPER?? WHAAAAT? This solution to plastics has been under our noses since before we had noses. Goes to show what really poor students we (many of us) really are. Nature really does have this planet figured out, if only we could grasp the detail.
Rob, what types of electrical applications can it be used in. Is it able to become a semi conductor or circuit boards or solar applications .... Dam you've done it again mate.
Circuit boards, yes. Maybe used to support some solar stuff. Not sure about semi-conductor, definitely resistors if suitably doped. I have seen paper insulated capacitors. And Rob has done shed loads of super-capacitors with paper separators. Grease-proof paper is treated with sulphuric acid. 'Fake' parchment by similar process. Filters, bags, overalls, screens, wall-covering, bum-wipe... Paper - it's bloody everywhere. ;-)
Can one take a sheet of paper, dip it in a solution of moderate concentration, hang it up to dry and bond, then rinse out zncl? Simplicity of process appeals. :)
A little cynical, perhaps. People often blame 'paper industry' for deforestation, but most of the trees that become paper are purpose grown specifically for that, the majority of it being varieties of Eucalyptus for printer-paper etc.
@@nelu587 For sure, Hemp is good, but it requires more processing for everyday paper than eucalyptus. Similar to certain timbers have qualities that are more suitable for different purposes, i.e, balsa is rather poor as a bow, and lignum vitae not good for a surf-board. For cellulose fibre it depends on how far/much you need or want to process it and reconfigure it's original/natural form. In that sense there is no 'best'.
Rob you have become a generator. Your current is charged with information at a human level. Do you realize how many lights bulbs you are energizing around this troubled world. Thanks to you and the crew.
20% of something is a hell of a lot more than 99% of nothing!
This mentality he shares has majorly enriched my life!
agree!
best comment ever!💡
In a way you have become a party celebrity here in the States. I was telling stories about you and Luke at parties. When you tell someone that you have demonstrated that it possible to charge a phone from raindrops. I could have made a fortune had I taken the bets. Not only have you earned my like ... you have something much more... you have my RESPECT.
Many times the simple solutions are not used/promoted becourse they can't patent it.
I wonder how mutch stronger this would bee if the gift from God was used (hemp) instead of wood base.
You are truly the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks.
Another stellar mind bending treat! A candle in the cavern. A lamp to our path
You and your channel are truly exceptional. Thank you Robert
Thanks so much for your videos Rob! I'm learning tons of new things in every video you post and they help me out a lot with projects that I work on
I didn't know about this process. Thanks mate, I'm really interested in this.
Rob! That perfect timing. I'm teaching my children (4&6 so we're just about there on the "3Rs") right now and for the next 3 weeks using a unit-study on the topic of paper.
It's been a great way to keep them engaged and naturally asking the questions that lead into all the different subjects. Thanks for adding another bit to our studies.
OK need a video on making this awesome stuff ol chap!
Wow. Big thank you for this one Rob!!!
Thanks for the bite of knowledge! I have always been impressed by that material in those rollers, gears and sprockets in old radios and such. I thought it was some kind of plastic.
Paper-clay uses similar fiber. The fiber is useful in other materials such as gap-filling liquid sealants and textured paints.
I read something years ago (might have been New Scientist) where they were using high pressure water jets to shred cellulose down to nano-fiber and then orienting/compressing it to near transparency, apparently pound for pound it was stronger than many common steels. Sorry I don't have exact references. Thanks for sharing.
Huh, always wondered about the trunk material which had a leather texture and shredded like paper. Thank you! Yet another RMS inspired topic to add to my list of technology to explore!
Excellent video as always.
I've been excepted on a tig welding course and start Tuesday for 10 weeks . I'll keep you updated
Paper is truly one of the great wonder materials. And I have tons of scrap paper around. It could be moulded too perhaps?
Amazing, what a great way to recycle paper. Only need one addition, zinc chloride. I have to try this for sure. You my friend are a walking encyclopaedia, I'm glad that you are sharing your knowledge because it needs to be shared instead of lasting just your lifetime. Thank you.
Interesting. I’m part of the precious plastic community and will be sharing this video with them. I’d heard of this many years ago but didn’t realise how good / interesting it was .
Best vid...in .my opinion....in a long time. Hmmmm..there's got to be a battery application in the somewhere.....separator, conductive Cathode, or leave some zinc in for an Anode????
Thanks Rob.
Tetraamminecopper(II) sulfate or Schweizer's reagent also solubilises cellulose fibres. Made with Copper Sulphate and ammonia solution .
love that content Rob! great introduction to these concepts are the ticket.
Little behind on my viewing regimen, but this was a nice little jewel of materials engineering history!
I will add just for the sake of all-roundedness that earlier versions of Micarta were very successful industrial versions of 'CRP' where the C was cellulose rather than carbon. I believe it's still being made today in some capacity, though speaking broadly, most cellulose was phased out in favor of fiberglass for its rigidity (mostly due to its woven nature, though linen and canvas were/are also used for the same reason in tarps and sails of a certain period). Bakelite in the 50s was doped into linen and 'kraftpaper' for countertops and a host of materials like circuit boards (I had a few devices with these chunky circuit boards like old telephones and a TV), and I believe a phenolic resin-based formula is still available for these products today too. They also have excellent water-repellency properties, though the modern equivalents are equally effective if not slightly more fragile in regards to tensile strength.
In the US and I'm sure many countries that I can't speak for directly, prescription eyeglass frames are returning to pressure-formed cellulose/thermoplastic substrates, employing pelletized base components and dyed fragments for ease of manufacture, and can look quite striking post machining.
Edit: I was incorrect in the 'new' eyeglass material which turns out to be cellulose acetate. Not quite pure paper based, but we'll call it close enough. 😉
I Love paper
Paper planes
Books
Cutting and gluing it
Pretty useful and renewable
Thank you. I was totally unaware of this product. Hmm, in twenty thousand leagues under the Sea Nemo's submarine interior was made of compressed paper.
Depending on the desired thickness and density of the finished part, leaching out the zinc chloride sounds like the laborious or tricky part.
Yes! Love these plastics videos.
It seems like you could treat fine saw dust to make that volcanized cellulose. For some reason I thought they made celluloid from cellulose as well.
Thanks for the great suggestion :)
any chance of a v3 of the paper bike using this material? a video of the process for the home shop would be cool.
I was thinking this would be about cellophane. Turns out it was, only non transparant varieties. Never knew there was strong and dense stuff as well. And unlike Artificial Silk, Rayon, Viscose environmentally friendly.
Always something new to learn here.
Great stuff Robert so many uses so little cost
Could it be used in entertainment storage.
Nonconducting portion of the capacitors
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You are on a roll Robert, again a very interesting video, many thanks.🧐
Does a vid about paper- gets told he's on a roll. Ain't that some sheet!
@@jimandskittum 😅
Anticipating some fish paper dielectric capacitors, here.
Thanks again!
Cellulose is by far the most common bioplastic on the planet: if we can make it perform on par with nonrenewable plastics in price and performance, it's a no-brainer to switch
Also modified celluloses can be fully thermoplastic, like cellulose acetate or celluloid, one of the earliest thermoplastics used. It's flammable but that can be reduced with borax and penta-erythritol
Very awesome, thanks for sharing, I did not know about this! I have a lot of ZnCl2, now I know what to do with it :) Would be nice to stiffen paper and make the harder to tear for use as battery separators. I wonder if I give the paper a spritz of conc. zinc chloride, let it stand for a while, then rinse it, if that would work? Will have to experiment with it.
We could really do with a lot more trees to make these materials, but the difficulty has always been to get people planting them, perhaps because they don't realise just how much comes from them. Once a woodland has grown, the amount of growth that needs to be removed just to maintain it, without even felling any of the trees is incredible and it's usually got rid off on huge bonfires. Yet that material could be cooked in sealed containers and all kinds of chemical components can be stilled off such as methanol for biofuel. What's left in the container is charcoal. So these vast amounts of resources can be collected from a few acres of land, and all the while carbon and nitrogen is being sucked out of the atmosphere and building up the soil and wildlife.
Think the biggest use now is wasting it for electricity production.
@@eriknielsen1849 most people are not clever, nor able to look at the future
@@paulbrouyere1735 unfortunately you are right. But thank God I'm soon away from crouded civilization.
Big cities are in for wake up call in the verry near future.
I’ve been out of the loop for a while. Have the Twitch streams been put on hold for a while?
History shows that people don't remember history. Thanks for the lesson!
I make a type of poor mans fiberglass or papier mache using tissue and acrylic paint, several layers of tissue saturated with the paint and allowed to dry it nearly water proof and is extremely tough, it resists tearing in all direction
Will you please post a link to the information? Will it work in a chamber of compressed air?
Wow Amazing !! Maybe there is some way to do it as a micro-factory ?
Awesomest! 👏
Hello, do you think this material could be used for FDM 3D printing?
Is this a weatherproof material?
Is it waterproof or made water proof? Thinking about replacement for paper plates, bowls, and cutlery. If it can be molded, maybe a replacement for plastic bottles. Leather belts for vegans.
I guess the other factor really is cost.
sounds like there is no reason to get these weak paper straws at restaurants.
Well this sounds like a replacement for many petroleum products...
Paper. WHAAAAT? Thank you Rob for reminding us yet again! how so much "stuff" we think is new, is old and forgotten. Old, very old statues made of PAPER?? WHAAAAT? This solution to plastics has been under our noses since before we had noses. Goes to show what really poor students we (many of us) really are. Nature really does have this planet figured out, if only we could grasp the detail.
Rob, what types of electrical applications can it be used in. Is it able to become a semi conductor or circuit boards or solar applications .... Dam you've done it again mate.
Circuit boards, yes. Maybe used to support some solar stuff. Not sure about semi-conductor, definitely resistors if suitably doped. I have seen paper insulated capacitors. And Rob has done shed loads of super-capacitors with paper separators. Grease-proof paper is treated with sulphuric acid. 'Fake' parchment by similar process. Filters, bags, overalls, screens, wall-covering, bum-wipe... Paper - it's bloody everywhere. ;-)
Just freakin' Brilliant sir. Love this. Is Bakelite one of this family of material?
Should make your own builders board 🙂
Excellent 👍👌☺️😊🐱🤠
Can one take a sheet of paper, dip it in a solution of moderate concentration, hang it up to dry and bond, then rinse out zncl?
Simplicity of process appeals. :)
Cellulose electric guitar body . possibilities?
Interesting information. : )
That's great 👍😊
How about a demo video
Interesting stuff. Are you going to try to make any?
Fascinating thanks. Might I suggest a more clickbaity title such as "Cheap Renewable Plastic No One Talks About"
sapientia et doctrina
You seen plastic to fuel......
.. and, you forgot its Thermal Properties .. Oh-well .. insolation is insolation, I guess.
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Super material.. not much interest to produce because is too cheap and good for environment.
A little cynical, perhaps. People often blame 'paper industry' for deforestation, but most of the trees that become paper are purpose grown specifically for that, the majority of it being varieties of Eucalyptus for printer-paper etc.
@@bikerfirefarter7280 better for paper is weed .
@@nelu587 For sure, Hemp is good, but it requires more processing for everyday paper than eucalyptus. Similar to certain timbers have qualities that are more suitable for different purposes, i.e, balsa is rather poor as a bow, and lignum vitae not good for a surf-board. For cellulose fibre it depends on how far/much you need or want to process it and reconfigure it's original/natural form. In that sense there is no 'best'.
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