Hey Morgan. You may know this already but it's something that's commonly overlooked when it comes to cattle. Cattle love to rub on things to scratch themselves and your fence posts are something convenient to rub against. As you can imagine, the full weight of an adult cow regularly being applied to a fence post. Especially a tall fence post like the ones you have is not part of a recipe for long lasting fencing. I have seen many a deer farm converted to dairy where the posts are all snapped or pushed over. It might be wise to run another electrical wire around your fence at cow height, and to invest in something else for them to scratch themselves on. Also your chicken tractors look like something nice to scratch on. That may become relevant at some point.
You are absolutely right! We had a grassfed dairy farm up until a couple springs ago and fencing was always an issue. They rub, push and everything in between. We still have cows, they've gotten out once this summer to visit our neighbors, someone didn't check on the battery fencer so some young rambunctious heifers broke through a standing fence that lost its juice... that said, electric fencing is a must, its also important to train them to respect boundaries. I saw someone put a few random posts in the ground and screwed in several coarse horse brushes along it and the cows used it to rub their heads and the like on it, was budget friendly to start with.
I have just now gotten my father to watch this with me, he talks about your "All ducks go home" call a lot, we just got our ducks to listen to us and he's very proud of our accomplishment. Can't wait to watch this video completely.
They say that rolling things downhill tends to be a little easier rather than uphill...At least, that's what mama told me, and she was never wrong. She told me that too!
To roll out that type of tubing you can attach a chain and run it through to your tractor. That way it rolls and follows the tractor. Easier work. Keep the attachment connector on the back that way you can kinda keep it from falling over while you do that. Hope it helps. :)
take your spools to the top of the pasture and roll them down hill to uncoil. try to avoid any kinks since it will make a weak spot for possible failure.
@@kontrol49y99 Running a water line that far without burying it seems like such a waste of time. Do it right, do it once. Oh well, another video next year to look forward to.
Yes this I know to be true. Oftentimes a kink will result in two little holes at each side of the kink where it's kinked the tightest. So you must test your line before burying it and fix all the leaks first. I hope he remembers to do this.
I did this on our 20 acres . It's one of those jobs that's great to have finished. I rolled out the pipe and then used a ripper on the tractor with a pipe laying attachment to bury it all. That was 10 years ago and I'm so glad I did it. Use it every day.
I can remember running power and water lines last year to the barn, shop and the enclosed part of the open storage shed. Rule one, dig the trench first. Second have rocks to put on the water line to hold it down.
@@jaimegarcia7922 Yes, on mom and dads farm, his cousins, a few others that were moving away from dairy. That was last year and this year due to "the bug" . I have gone off of the wells but also continues flows from springs that went through the winter. The hard part there is the initial filter in at the spring, then a settling and filter setup on the slope down the hill to the watering point. Then you need a system to collect the water and drain it during the winter without it icing up. All I was doing was using what I learned in the Army as an engineer, as an authority chairman and an EPA trainer for asset management and finance. The one I liked was at our cabin I had 7 feet of drop over 30 feet to the road and 4 of it was for the settling and sand/ charcoal filter in plastic buckets (food grade). I have a project now that the 4H did in the early 1960's at a water point on a state road. the hedges need to go, piping replaced, the stone work repaired and the metal kettle has to be releveled to allow for the drain pipe to be used. That starts Monday morning with a new crop of 4H. So by Thursday we can put a video up of the work in the 4H building at the county fair.
Very true! Now he's going to have to dig AROUND the pipe, making sure not to bury it, run over it, and a host of other things that can happen because it can get in the way. Plus once you have a trench, it's easier to 'roll out' the pipe in the trench, like a big old tire rolling down that hill.
@@mammahasspoken The first time I did it was doing a horse barn. Then I had to heat tape and insulate the pipe. Try unrolling it off a step ladder and secure the line to beams above. That job I did not dig the trench first.
I've done this kind of project before! Rent a trencher over the weekend, start at top, straight down to supply source, then trench laterals, drop in pipe, make connections, test for leaks, backfill! Have fun!
Love your channel, but as an irrigation tech who panicked at how you were laying the pipe down, I'm glad to see that by minute 10:40 you figure out that rolling the coil to unroll the pipe is the way to not kink it, contrary to pulling the coils away from the roll. Also, what you got is known as flexible poly pipe, HDPE is the term used for thicker wall tubing not easy to coil that is joint together by a fusion process rather than barb fittings and compression clamps, but I digress, I'm just being an irrigation tech. Keep it up, the whole family enjoy your great story telling and we all love Toby.
5.23...lol...an ex-cable guy is laughing at you. lol!! Coiled wires, Coiled almost anything...retains a "memory". You learn that lesson the hard way...and remember forever. You should have started at the "top" of the hill...
I worked with Poly pipe in irrigation for years, so I know the struggles. With irrigation you never cut the straps all at once. Instead you cut 1 strap at a time and roll the coil as it feeds into the ground via a plow. If you do it again, I’d suggest using a broom handle or pipe through the center with the coil resting between the forks and the broom handle strapped down. Then tie off one end and drive backwards to your destination, cutting straps as needed. You could possibly cut all of it at once via this method as it should be contained between the forks. I would also go back to every spot you have a kink and splice it there. The kink will never come all the way out and the pipe has been weakened at that spot and will likely eventually spring a leak there. Kinks are big no nos with Poly.
This reminds me of doing something similar; helping out a buddy of mine with his parents' project back in the day for their citrus trees. We cut and bent wire hangers into a "U" shape and nailed them down like a croquet set (outdoor game with hammer and ball) to help guide the tubing when pulling the spool which we threw over a old fence post so it would unwind like toilet paper when we pulled it. Removing the previous tubing seemed to be a lot more work because it was there for about 10 years and was held down by grass, weeds, and roots. Was a lot of work but I get fresh oranges and lemons everytime his parents come down and visit.
A fisherman who has spent years dealing with line coming off a reel might have been a heop. I would have used scrap wood, a pipe and a little hardware to make a reel to sit to one side of the tractor. Secure one end of the water pipe, and then just drive away. It would come off the reel without kinks all the way up the hill as the reel turned. As an old machinist, I know the value of taking the time to make a jig that helps to do the job. It seems like extra work, but it pays for itself in labor-saving.
Cousin just put the spool between the fork and stuck a short piece of 100 mm pipe through the spool and strapped the pipe to the fork. Cut the straps holding the spool together, fastened the end of the pipe to a post and started driving the tractor in reverse. Worked like a charm.
I know milkweeds are good for the Monarchs, but they are poisonous for cattle. Some will leave them alone, but some like to nibble on anything. Are the cattle going to mingle around the bird grounds? Maybe leave the milkweed where the birds are, but remove where the cattle will be?
Before doing the rest of the tubing, try this: Place 3 or 4 LOOSE ties around the entire coil, THEN cut the straps. Al;so, place a colored piece of tape on both ends of the coil - really helps find the damn things.
For galvanized trellis wire I use what's called a "spinning jenny" to unroll it, it's genius, stops this kind of sproinging tangling and bending. It's basically a giant spool with arms to manage the unrolling process. I am not sure if there's something similar for the tubing, but you might even be able to fashion something yourself that's similar. I wasted a lot of time unrolling wire for my vineyard by hand before discovering it.
I just ran about 1000' of dripline through our whole garden, it was a learning experience but now that it is up and running it was so worth it! No wasted water!
Yes! Hoses! Slightly different topic but I want to get in early! For your pond! Run a hose from the stream to the pond and let gravity feed the water in. You could put a very shallow trench leading to an overflow hose leading back into the stream! I wanted to comment on the last video but it already had so many!
Can I make a suggestion to help with the tubing issue. I would use your fence post to tie off the tube too. This way you can spot leaks much quicker and saves you the hassle of having to staple them into the ground
Have you checked what your water pressure is and how are you going to keep water pressure running such a distance thru all the lines including uphill???We have 8 gal per minute, for a smaller area 6,000 sq ft and if we turn on more than one hose at a time we lose lots of pressure.
I remember when we first got cattle the water pressure was suddenly next to nothing in the house. We ended up with expensive changes to our well and cattle watering system.
Try putting the spool on one of the prongs of Large Marge and use it as a holder and pull it in the direction that you need to go. It should spool out and be more manageable.. Maybe you thought of that. Its worth a try. Like a spindle
I have a Sheep Farming RUclips channel in Scotland and we are doing totally different things but i love watching ur videos. Both for the interesting way u farm ur animals and also the great film making! Living the dream😁
The geese coming over to laugh…yep, sounds about right. 😃 You’ve got some great ideas, Morgan - making sure it doesn’t spring open when you cut off the straps, controlling the unspooling… Toby is obviously supervising your work 😆
Please, please check you pumps lift capacity. Pumps generally can only over come X amount of elevation change. If your pump works to hard it will burn up or not pump at all. Well pumps ain't cheap. In general ever 34 feet of elevation creates one atmosphere of pressure or 14.6 psi.
Hey iam a Plumber, just keep in mind that you need to check if your pump is Strong enough to pump the Water uphill. Oh and i can asure you that those "Piperolls" wont explode on you ever. Just lay them on the Ground and Cut them. And then just roll them like you did.
In the future I will get cattle, I have land, I have the structures, just need the cattle. Years ago My family had cattle but we sold them. You should get cattle aswell morgan!
Haven't finished the but so far I've loved it. Edit: I've finished and loved the ending because it reminded me of my grandpa's farm because he had a apple tree and every summer when we went to visit him we would pick the apples off the tree and make stuff like spicy and sour apple pepper or just wash them and eat it.
As a plumber, I found it hilarious that you thought the roll would explode. I think those big rolls are pretty easy to manage, we usually use the pex red and blue rolls. When you consider how much quicker and easier it is than running copper, I can happily deal with the unwieldy size!
When a hose or a cable is coiled like this, there is also a twist along the axis of the hose. It necessarily comes from geometry. That is why you get those sudden curled kinks: the twist localized into one spot. Think about the shape a straight hose would form if you just kept twisting it: it would eventually form into a larger coil, which would then become a spool. As you unspool it, you need to continuously counter-twist the tube, and those counter-twists will radiate down the length as you manipulate it, eventually canceling out the existing twists. Result is no kinks.
That stuff needs to be unrolled not uncoiled as in unroll it from the end like a wheel. Commonly if soil conditions permit using a mole attachment on a tractor. Your soil is very rocky which might be a problem for a mole. Mark Fay US MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E
Cider pressing? ‘That would be fun.’ ? A great idea for later on. A luxurious distraction for now. Get your priorities straight. Keep your mind on the business at hand. Work on protecting your orchard form destruction by up coming cattle onslaught.
Not if you intend to drain it (use an air hose to blow out the water) before winter. I am using the same type of water line for my garden expansion, and I am including a drain plug at the lowest spot to winterize it from. (Also, leaks are not very hard to fix.)
@@doloresreynolds8145this isnt an irregation hose for a summer garden. This line is to provide water for cattle 12 months a year. In Vermont the frost line is at five feet, digging a six foot deep 1000 foot long trench is going to be very difficult in rocky New England soil.
Next time knock up a spool between your forks, at the simplest level cross lash a piece of 4x4 onto the forks through the centre. Then anchor one end of the pipe then reverse to destination. You get your fabricating friend to make up a simple spooler. Two pieces of box section that slide over the forks with a clamping bolt. Then have a detachable spindle/tube between the box sections, attached to the box section with a couple of old axle clamps from the scrapyard.
I dealt a lot with this sort of irrigation line: All you need is some sort of spool, to keep the coil from getting tangled up. You could build one out of wood, use an old industrial one, or whatever. Just get the coil on the spool, anchor the outer end at the top of the hill, and then walk the spool down the hill. Or fasten the spool on to your tractor, and drive it down the hill. If you need to add connectors, heat the end of the tube with a torch a bit to soften it. Just a bit. For smaller tubing, I use a thermos filled with hot water.
If you have a way to adjust the forks on Marge there and bring em closer together to form like a "single spike", you could use that as a spool of a kind to unravel the hose.
That's a pretty large vertical difference.. It's around 2-2.5 psi per vertical foot + loss of flow from such a long run. You may not even be able to pump water that far up the hill.. You might want to do some test pumping before you start digging and burring lines, just to find that you'll get a trickle at the top of the hill.
It's going to take one heck of a strong pump and maybe a couple inline booster pumps along the way. They can be run by solar. I use booster pumps because I don't want a trickle at the top. I want good flow and since it's possible, why not do that?
You may want to check the specs of your water pump before you go through all this trouble. Water is very heavy and pumps are rated by the amount of lift they can generate. I know the camera is deceiving but that looks like a big hill you went up.
Hey Morgan, how Molly & Ginny barncat doing. It’s been I think at least six weeks since they arrived on the farm, are they allowed out of their room yet. They must be ready by now.
@@fionawallace580 I mostly just want to know how they are progressing. It’s been weeks since we last saw much of them & Morgan did say it should take about six weeks for them to settle in, I figure their first days as full barn cats, out and about just like Pablo, should be coming up soon. Plus Ginny needs to get big enough to survive winter.
@@fredslipknot9 Eh he said he would keep them trapped in a room for that long. Cats would get used to a new place in a few days. Stunting the kitten, its entire youth locked up.
@@promontorium it’s not in a cage dude, also Ginny still only like 3 months old, she’s got years of youth yet to go, and then more life beyond that. You’re being foolish here.
@@fredslipknot9 You're right. A cage would at least allow view of sunlight and nature. They are locked in a dark room. It doesn't matter how long the cat may or may not live. It's being kept in a dark room for months for no logical reason.
Saw the thumbnail and thought, he's making hula hoops? That's a rather big departure from the usual. Then I realized you are actually using the irrigation tubing for (gasp) irrigation!
Dealing with the mad coils of the Black Poly pipe is maddening. It is just the nature of the beast. I remembering having to deal with spools of RG-59, RG-62, RG-75, RG-8 and RG-8X was a pain in the neck. The wire was malleable but when you start dealing with 100's of feet of pipping or cable wire and being single person it is not a lot of fun.
You should check out Virtual races, Morgan. My hubby and I do the Conqueror Challenges and have completed 3 each. Watching you walk around like that makes me think of all of of steps that you're doing and how they could go towards a medal. LOL
Good heads up on cleaning up metal around the farm before the cows come. Hardware disease is not fun. Have you thought about magnet blouses? Ask your vet for an opinion. Old farm = lots of lost nails, fence staples, nuts, bolts, wire, etc.
FYI, Easier to push the line roll downhill. Fit your connections near water supply... later not searching the entire pasture to locate any connections. Not to say closer to your tool shed. Another way, use your carry all implement, extend outwardly w/ a 4x8 plywood base. Use a 4 x4 or 2x4 to lock in place. Go to hilltop and drive down slowly to water supply. First let the sun heat it up to ease unrolling pipe. I'll put a frost faucet near our duck pond to top off and used for other irrigation/fire needs. My main will be 1.25" x 1000' to the dp... our well is 40 gpm, we're blessed! Will you put a heated holding tank at the top to save using your pump and allowing head pressure w/o electric use. Remember, to draw a supply line map for use later, saves time. At 66 I tend to forget sometimes, lol. Just a few simple thoughts cause, I'll be doing it next week. Have fun and enjoy. BTW, your stories have fantastic narrations.
The biggest problem I've found with working with that coiled tubing is that it twists and kinks as it unravels. I've solved it in the past by twisting as I unroll, this counteracts the spooling. I spent as much energy and time unkinking it as I did pulling it into place. *edit* Rolling it seems to work really well!
the best way would be to ixate the outer end of the roll at the starting point. if you now roll the pipe the way where its supposed to lay, it will not be twisted.
If you'd have lashed a pole across the forks then placed the hose on the pole and secured one end to your start point.. you could have driven up the hill and it would have unrolled without kinking as you drove. . . Love all your video. Give Toby a scritch for us 😎
Hard rolling uphill. Maybe can one try Marge it up, and then hand roll it down, if you eventually need to have more tubes on the other side of the perma culture? I know nothing abuot farming or pipes, or water, and maybe you have already said something about it - if not here it goes - are you going to dig a ditch along the fence and bury it (to keep the pipe from freezing in the winter)? Or is it a non-freeze thing? Does one roll it in in the fall? I'm sorry if it is a stupid question.
Next roll place the roll between the forks and put a post throught the middle with each end clamped at the end of the forks. Lift the forks with the hydraulics. This way if you tie the outer end of the roll to a fence post and use the post as an axel in the middle it will roll out pulled by the tractor.
@@Sporting1210 : He probably earned the nickname "Captain Literal" with that comment, but he's not wrong... This won't be the first time cows were on that farm. Anyway... What is your strong _suite?_ Junior, deluxe, executive, terrace, penthouse, villa, presidential?
@@Sporting1210 : Your point was as obvious as a dime-sized pimple on the end of someone's nose - no one missed it. It was even acknowledged in my reply. When you used the word "suite" instead of the word "suit" was that an error of spelling or vocabulary? Whatever it was pull out a dictionary and fix yourself. In the future it would behoove you to proofread your posts so you don't sound like an imbecile when criticizing others for what you see as an inability to discern context.
ohnoe! an error! i guess i should type in my native language, eh? You do realise ofc, that typing, spelling and vocable-knowledge are not the same as context reading - so putting them together to make a point is boderline whataboutism. He wanted to make that joke no matter what - and so he did, hence the tryhard. we have a saying in my country that originated from a desperate poet struggling to find the right words and translates to something like : "rhyme! or i will eat you" - if catch my drift ;)
I think you may have watched way to many Road Runner Cartoons a s a kid Morgan, hence the overwhelming feeling you were going to be Wylie Coyoteed when you cut open the pipe strapping.
Have you thought how you are going to winterize the water line? That is one bulky waterhose you got there and with the weight of water at over 8 pounds per gallon, can get very awkward. Love your trial and errors, and your videos.
I'm a total novice. I'm assuming you only need water during non freezing weather & you'll be evacuating the lines for winter? I think I heard you say they were wintering in the barn. Have you considered running the line along the fence ON the fence about waist height & attaching it to the fence so no animals trample it? It would alleviate any kinks. If you had a water trough at each coupling you'd not need to run the line through the swails. They would just come to the trough.
They make a special tractor attachment that buries the water line as you drive. Hose coil stay on a reel that unwinds it as you drive along. Check out Clarksons Farm on Amazon, he used on to run water for his sheep.
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Hey Morgan. You may know this already but it's something that's commonly overlooked when it comes to cattle.
Cattle love to rub on things to scratch themselves and your fence posts are something convenient to rub against.
As you can imagine, the full weight of an adult cow regularly being applied to a fence post. Especially a tall fence post like the ones you have is not part of a recipe for long lasting fencing.
I have seen many a deer farm converted to dairy where the posts are all snapped or pushed over.
It might be wise to run another electrical wire around your fence at cow height, and to invest in something else for them to scratch themselves on.
Also your chicken tractors look like something nice to scratch on.
That may become relevant at some point.
I’d consider buying one of those brushes that cows can use. Like the kind you’d use to buff leather shoes but way way bigger.
You are absolutely right! We had a grassfed dairy farm up until a couple springs ago and fencing was always an issue. They rub, push and everything in between. We still have cows, they've gotten out once this summer to visit our neighbors, someone didn't check on the battery fencer so some young rambunctious heifers broke through a standing fence that lost its juice... that said, electric fencing is a must, its also important to train them to respect boundaries. I saw someone put a few random posts in the ground and screwed in several coarse horse brushes along it and the cows used it to rub their heads and the like on it, was budget friendly to start with.
I've been wondering if his permaculture orchard is going to survive the bovines. Between eating and rubbing, they may be gonners.
There are purpose made cow brushes you can attach to walls or posts for cows to brush themselves.
this is good advice
I have just now gotten my father to watch this with me, he talks about your "All ducks go home" call a lot, we just got our ducks to listen to us and he's very proud of our accomplishment. Can't wait to watch this video completely.
There's a video about how he trained his ducks to come home and the guy who inspired him to do that. I love that, too. "All ducks go to bed!"
Mine go when I shout Bed time. Unless I’m putting them away early then they can take a bit of rounding up, stubborn ducks! 😁
I trained mine to go in at night to all ducks go to bed.
@@thatwelshman4518 that is so cute 💛
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They say that rolling things downhill tends to be a little easier rather than uphill...At least, that's what mama told me, and she was never wrong. She told me that too!
an intelligent mom; the most frightening and best of moms!
I give you so much credit for just going for it. Doing things you have never done.
To roll out that type of tubing you can attach a chain and run it through to your tractor. That way it rolls and follows the tractor. Easier work. Keep the attachment connector on the back that way you can kinda keep it from falling over while you do that.
Hope it helps. :)
I was going to suggest securing a pipe between the forks and hanging the roll of hose between it and pulling it out. Your method sounds easier.
take your spools to the top of the pasture and roll them down hill to uncoil. try to avoid any kinks since it will make a weak spot for possible failure.
@@kontrol49y99 But this was funnier and the geese needed a laugh.
@@lgsg65 exactly
@@kontrol49y99 Running a water line that far without burying it seems like such a waste of time. Do it right, do it once. Oh well, another video next year to look forward to.
@@kontrol49y99 What's the tool called? or similar tools like this?
Yes this I know to be true. Oftentimes a kink will result in two little holes at each side of the kink where it's kinked the tightest. So you must test your line before burying it and fix all the leaks first. I hope he remembers to do this.
I did this on our 20 acres . It's one of those jobs that's great to have finished. I rolled out the pipe and then used a ripper on the tractor with a pipe laying attachment to bury it all. That was 10 years ago and I'm so glad I did it. Use it every day.
That is definitely the best way to lay in that much poly pipe.
I can remember running power and water lines last year to the barn, shop and the enclosed part of the open storage shed. Rule one, dig the trench first. Second have rocks to put on the water line to hold it down.
Let’s see Brett J if he does the same. You had it all planned out.
You have done this before.?
@@jaimegarcia7922 Yes, on mom and dads farm, his cousins, a few others that were moving away from dairy. That was last year and this year due to "the bug" . I have gone off of the wells but also continues flows from springs that went through the winter. The hard part there is the initial filter in at the spring, then a settling and filter setup on the slope down the hill to the watering point. Then you need a system to collect the water and drain it during the winter without it icing up. All I was doing was using what I learned in the Army as an engineer, as an authority chairman and an EPA trainer for asset management and finance. The one I liked was at our cabin I had 7 feet of drop over 30 feet to the road and 4 of it was for the settling and sand/ charcoal filter in plastic buckets (food grade). I have a project now that the 4H did in the early 1960's at a water point on a state road. the hedges need to go, piping replaced, the stone work repaired and the metal kettle has to be releveled to allow for the drain pipe to be used. That starts Monday morning with a new crop of 4H. So by Thursday we can put a video up of the work in the 4H building at the county fair.
Very true! Now he's going to have to dig AROUND the pipe, making sure not to bury it, run over it, and a host of other things that can happen because it can get in the way. Plus once you have a trench, it's easier to 'roll out' the pipe in the trench, like a big old tire rolling down that hill.
@@mammahasspoken The first time I did it was doing a horse barn. Then I had to heat tape and insulate the pipe. Try unrolling it off a step ladder and secure the line to beams above. That job I did not dig the trench first.
I've done this kind of project before! Rent a trencher over the weekend, start at top, straight down to supply source, then trench laterals, drop in pipe, make connections, test for leaks, backfill! Have fun!
A nice surprise video on a Saturday morning, Morgan....thanks I enjoyed it!
Love your channel, but as an irrigation tech who panicked at how you were laying the pipe down, I'm glad to see that by minute 10:40 you figure out that rolling the coil to unroll the pipe is the way to not kink it, contrary to pulling the coils away from the roll.
Also, what you got is known as flexible poly pipe, HDPE is the term used for thicker wall tubing not easy to coil that is joint together by a fusion process rather than barb fittings and compression clamps, but I digress, I'm just being an irrigation tech.
Keep it up, the whole family enjoy your great story telling and we all love Toby.
Oh good, I'm glad someone finally mentioned that. I hope Morgan reads this.
5.23...lol...an ex-cable guy is laughing at you. lol!! Coiled wires, Coiled almost anything...retains a "memory". You learn that lesson the hard way...and remember forever. You should have started at the "top" of the hill...
Nice to wake up and enjoy this with my coffee! Good job as always and many thanks!
I worked with Poly pipe in irrigation for years, so I know the struggles. With irrigation you never cut the straps all at once. Instead you cut 1 strap at a time and roll the coil as it feeds into the ground via a plow. If you do it again, I’d suggest using a broom handle or pipe through the center with the coil resting between the forks and the broom handle strapped down. Then tie off one end and drive backwards to your destination, cutting straps as needed. You could possibly cut all of it at once via this method as it should be contained between the forks. I would also go back to every spot you have a kink and splice it there. The kink will never come all the way out and the pipe has been weakened at that spot and will likely eventually spring a leak there. Kinks are big no nos with Poly.
This reminds me of doing something similar; helping out a buddy of mine with his parents' project back in the day for their citrus trees. We cut and bent wire hangers into a "U" shape and nailed them down like a croquet set (outdoor game with hammer and ball) to help guide the tubing when pulling the spool which we threw over a old fence post so it would unwind like toilet paper when we pulled it. Removing the previous tubing seemed to be a lot more work because it was there for about 10 years and was held down by grass, weeds, and roots. Was a lot of work but I get fresh oranges and lemons everytime his parents come down and visit.
A fisherman who has spent years dealing with line coming off a reel might have been a heop. I would have used scrap wood, a pipe and a little hardware to make a reel to sit to one side of the tractor. Secure one end of the water pipe, and then just drive away. It would come off the reel without kinks all the way up the hill as the reel turned. As an old machinist, I know the value of taking the time to make a jig that helps to do the job. It seems like extra work, but it pays for itself in labor-saving.
something similar is done with copper/aluminum wire although metal likes to remember every bend made in it
Cousin just put the spool between the fork and stuck a short piece of 100 mm pipe through the spool and strapped the pipe to the fork. Cut the straps holding the spool together, fastened the end of the pipe to a post and started driving the tractor in reverse. Worked like a charm.
I will be praying for your cattle.
I always learn stuff watching your videos and reading the comments. It's great.
I know milkweeds are good for the Monarchs, but they are poisonous for cattle. Some will leave them alone, but some like to nibble on anything. Are the cattle going to mingle around the bird grounds? Maybe leave the milkweed where the birds are, but remove where the cattle will be?
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That Tractor sure is some Fine machinery
a farmer's ingenuity = PRICELESS
Before doing the rest of the tubing, try this: Place 3 or 4 LOOSE ties around the entire coil, THEN cut the straps. Al;so, place a colored piece of tape on both ends of the coil - really helps find the damn things.
Wouldn’t be a bad idea to tape up(seal) both ends with a bright hi-viz colored tape.
For galvanized trellis wire I use what's called a "spinning jenny" to unroll it, it's genius, stops this kind of sproinging tangling and bending. It's basically a giant spool with arms to manage the unrolling process. I am not sure if there's something similar for the tubing, but you might even be able to fashion something yourself that's similar. I wasted a lot of time unrolling wire for my vineyard by hand before discovering it.
“Sproinging” is a technical term and I will fight anyone who says otherwise
The geese gathering in the field made me think of the Pied Piper and his followers.
I just ran about 1000' of dripline through our whole garden, it was a learning experience but now that it is up and running it was so worth it! No wasted water!
Love watching some Homesteading in the morning.
Yes! Hoses! Slightly different topic but I want to get in early!
For your pond! Run a hose from the stream to the pond and let gravity feed the water in. You could put a very shallow trench leading to an overflow hose leading back into the stream! I wanted to comment on the last video but it already had so many!
Can I make a suggestion to help with the tubing issue. I would use your fence post to tie off the tube too. This way you can spot leaks much quicker and saves you the hassle of having to staple them into the ground
1:48 the chihkons are already laughing at your project :)
Pulling it off the roll, instead of unrolling it, is why "everyone" is frustrated with these rolls :)
Have you checked what your water pressure is and how are you going to keep water pressure running such a distance thru all the lines including uphill???We have 8 gal per minute, for a smaller area 6,000 sq ft and if we turn on more than one hose at a time we lose lots of pressure.
Yup, that's a really long run up a hill through a small pipe. If it wasn't planned for when the pump was installed it's probably going to be a problem
I remember when we first got cattle the water pressure was suddenly next to nothing in the house. We ended up with expensive changes to our well and cattle watering system.
RAM PUMP
Thought the same??
We have 15gpm, pressure tank set to 40/60. We don’t have water pressure in the house when a faucet is on outside either....
So much fun to watch your videos! You are such good storyteller!
Enjoyed watching you prepare for getting your cattle.
Love the ducks and geese watching you with all the "look what this human is doing today" you have the best entertainment going.
omg i really love those k8nd ov videos your doing you daily work
Try putting the spool on one of the prongs of Large Marge and use it as a holder and pull it in the direction that you need to go. It should spool out and be more manageable.. Maybe you thought of that. Its worth a try. Like a spindle
Makes sense
I have a Sheep Farming RUclips channel in Scotland and we are doing totally different things but i love watching ur videos. Both for the interesting way u farm ur animals and also the great film making! Living the dream😁
The geese coming over to laugh…yep, sounds about right. 😃 You’ve got some great ideas, Morgan - making sure it doesn’t spring open when you cut off the straps, controlling the unspooling… Toby is obviously supervising your work 😆
Please, please check you pumps lift capacity. Pumps generally can only over come X amount of elevation change. If your pump works to hard it will burn up or not pump at all. Well pumps ain't cheap. In general ever 34 feet of elevation creates one atmosphere of pressure or 14.6 psi.
Just when I was going to suggest unrolling the pipe starting at one end, you figured it out! Keeps it from being so coiled up and getting kinks.
Friendly tip my dude. Move the tractor up to the gate before opening it so as to minimize the escape window of your birds.
Can't wait to see the cows on your farm. Good job setting up the tubing.. so nice to see Toby running in the field. 💖
Hey iam a Plumber, just keep in mind that you need to check if your pump is Strong enough to pump the Water uphill.
Oh and i can asure you that those "Piperolls" wont explode on you ever. Just lay them on the Ground and Cut them. And then just roll them like you did.
In the future I will get cattle, I have land, I have the structures, just need the cattle. Years ago My family had cattle but we sold them. You should get cattle aswell morgan!
Haven't finished the but so far I've loved it.
Edit: I've finished and loved the ending because it reminded me of my grandpa's farm because he had a apple tree and every summer when we went to visit him we would pick the apples off the tree and make stuff like spicy and sour apple pepper or just wash them and eat it.
me too
Me three
As a plumber, I found it hilarious that you thought the roll would explode. I think those big rolls are pretty easy to manage, we usually use the pex red and blue rolls. When you consider how much quicker and easier it is than running copper, I can happily deal with the unwieldy size!
Are you planning on digging a trench to bury the pipe to protect it pipe to protect it from frost/Cows feet and mowers?
Yes he is.
That was entertaining watching the buildup to you cutting the straps knowing nothing was going to happen.
I just love how you plan out your projects. Thanks for taking us along for the ride
7:20 "just love watching the birds on this farm" DUDE ! SAME! :D
When a hose or a cable is coiled like this, there is also a twist along the axis of the hose. It necessarily comes from geometry.
That is why you get those sudden curled kinks: the twist localized into one spot.
Think about the shape a straight hose would form if you just kept twisting it: it would eventually form into a larger coil, which would then become a spool.
As you unspool it, you need to continuously counter-twist the tube, and those counter-twists will radiate down the length as you manipulate it, eventually canceling out the existing twists. Result is no kinks.
Large Marge.. I say this to my boss all the time and the younger employees look at us like we are crazy. I love your channel.
You got it right on the last part....Unroll it as you go......Thanks Morgan.....!
That stuff needs to be unrolled not uncoiled as in unroll it from the end like a wheel. Commonly if soil conditions permit using a mole attachment on a tractor. Your soil is very rocky which might be a problem for a mole.
Mark Fay US MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E
12:11 “We have a lot of good cider apple trees around this farm.”
Could there be a cider pressing video coming soon?
That would be fun
Mi thought, exactly.
Cider pressing? ‘That would be fun.’ ? A great idea for later on. A luxurious distraction for now. Get your priorities straight. Keep your mind on the business at hand. Work on protecting your orchard form destruction by up coming cattle onslaught.
@@joehomer4421 he’s on RUclips. RUclips is part of the business.
The farm is looking good hope you have success with your cattle
Why not drive it to the top of the hill and unroll it so it doesn’t twist?
You are a smart person, let the machine unroll it, simple.
Don't you need to bury it below the frost line?
Yes you do.
Not if you intend to drain it (use an air hose to blow out the water) before winter. I am using the same type of water line for my garden expansion, and I am including a drain plug at the lowest spot to winterize it from. (Also, leaks are not very hard to fix.)
@@doloresreynolds8145this isnt an irregation hose for a summer garden. This line is to provide water for cattle 12 months a year. In Vermont the frost line is at five feet, digging a six foot deep 1000 foot long trench is going to be very difficult in rocky New England soil.
Joshua Rosen the cows will be in the barn for maybe 6 months a year, these water lines won't be needed then
We are way overdue for Gin Gin update. We want to enjoy her kitten cuteness before she gets all grown.
Next time knock up a spool between your forks, at the simplest level cross lash a piece of 4x4 onto the forks through the centre. Then anchor one end of the pipe then reverse to destination. You get your fabricating friend to make up a simple spooler. Two pieces of box section that slide over the forks with a clamping bolt. Then have a detachable spindle/tube between the box sections, attached to the box section with a couple of old axle clamps from the scrapyard.
If you knock up a spool....what will the babies look like???
I dealt a lot with this sort of irrigation line: All you need is some sort of spool, to keep the coil from getting tangled up. You could build one out of wood, use an old industrial one, or whatever. Just get the coil on the spool, anchor the outer end at the top of the hill, and then walk the spool down the hill. Or fasten the spool on to your tractor, and drive it down the hill. If you need to add connectors, heat the end of the tube with a torch a bit to soften it. Just a bit. For smaller tubing, I use a thermos filled with hot water.
doesn't even look like pressure pipe the way it kinks so easily
If you have a way to adjust the forks on Marge there and bring em closer together to form like a "single spike", you could use that as a spool of a kind to unravel the hose.
I'm glad to see you learned how to unroll a coil. Otherwise it's inevitable you're going to get twists, tangles and kinks.
That's a pretty large vertical difference.. It's around 2-2.5 psi per vertical foot + loss of flow from such a long run. You may not even be able to pump water that far up the hill.. You might want to do some test pumping before you start digging and burring lines, just to find that you'll get a trickle at the top of the hill.
Nothing wrong with a trickle. It will fill a stick tank and keep it full if the tank has a float valve.
It's going to take one heck of a strong pump and maybe a couple inline booster pumps along the way. They can be run by solar. I use booster pumps because I don't want a trickle at the top. I want good flow and since it's possible, why not do that?
I like the apple trees and the fresh apples!
You may want to check the specs of your water pump before you go through all this trouble. Water is very heavy and pumps are rated by the amount of lift they can generate. I know the camera is deceiving but that looks like a big hill you went up.
Consider using cable ties to raise the tubing off the ground and closer to the fence for mowing. Easy to attach to the fence as you go!
Hey Morgan, how Molly & Ginny barncat doing. It’s been I think at least six weeks since they arrived on the farm, are they allowed out of their room yet. They must be ready by now.
Yes! Cat video please!
@@fionawallace580 I mostly just want to know how they are progressing. It’s been weeks since we last saw much of them & Morgan did say it should take about six weeks for them to settle in, I figure their first days as full barn cats, out and about just like Pablo, should be coming up soon. Plus Ginny needs to get big enough to survive winter.
@@fredslipknot9 Eh he said he would keep them trapped in a room for that long. Cats would get used to a new place in a few days. Stunting the kitten, its entire youth locked up.
@@promontorium it’s not in a cage dude, also Ginny still only like 3 months old, she’s got years of youth yet to go, and then more life beyond that. You’re being foolish here.
@@fredslipknot9 You're right. A cage would at least allow view of sunlight and nature. They are locked in a dark room.
It doesn't matter how long the cat may or may not live. It's being kept in a dark room for months for no logical reason.
Cider and Beef Jerky. Maybe cider making on the farm.
Geese: “What the Flip is this guy getting into now”
😁👍
They're probably thinking "oh look he's walking back and forth again"
@@AdaptiveApeHybrid 😂😂😂
@@LadysFarm that's what I imagine the song birds in my yard think of me 🤷♂️🤷🤷♀️
@@AdaptiveApeHybrid haha 😂 that’s funny they are not singing just talking crap about you 😂
Saw the thumbnail and thought, he's making hula hoops? That's a rather big departure from the usual. Then I realized you are actually using the irrigation tubing for (gasp) irrigation!
the water pressure may not going to be strong enough to pump up hill. you going to need a secondary pump.
Loved the video about Toby dog’s grandpa
Dealing with the mad coils of the Black Poly pipe is maddening. It is just the nature of the beast. I remembering having to deal with spools of RG-59, RG-62, RG-75, RG-8 and RG-8X was a pain in the neck. The wire was malleable but when you start dealing with 100's of feet of pipping or cable wire and being single person it is not a lot of fun.
Keeping it Dutch just got through plumbing water lines with that tubing
I have seen similar lines used to feed water from a stream or spring to a cistern or pond.
You should check out Virtual races, Morgan. My hubby and I do the Conqueror Challenges and have completed 3 each. Watching you walk around like that makes me think of all of of steps that you're doing and how they could go towards a medal. LOL
Good heads up on cleaning up metal around the farm before the cows come. Hardware disease is not fun. Have you thought about magnet blouses? Ask your vet for an opinion. Old farm = lots of lost nails, fence staples, nuts, bolts, wire, etc.
Close your forklift to fit in the middle of the spool raise the forklift and just pull from the end that way you eliminate hose twisting
FYI,
Easier to push the line roll downhill.
Fit your connections near water supply... later not searching the entire pasture to locate any connections. Not to say closer to your tool shed.
Another way, use your carry all implement, extend outwardly w/ a 4x8 plywood base. Use a 4 x4 or 2x4 to lock in place.
Go to hilltop and drive down slowly to water supply.
First let the sun heat it up to ease unrolling pipe.
I'll put a frost faucet near our duck pond to top off and used for other irrigation/fire needs.
My main will be 1.25" x 1000' to the dp... our well is 40 gpm, we're blessed!
Will you put a heated holding tank at the top to save using your pump and allowing head pressure w/o electric use.
Remember, to draw a supply line map for use later, saves time. At 66 I tend to forget sometimes, lol.
Just a few simple thoughts cause, I'll be doing it next week.
Have fun and enjoy.
BTW, your stories have fantastic narrations.
The biggest problem I've found with working with that coiled tubing is that it twists and kinks as it unravels. I've solved it in the past by twisting as I unroll, this counteracts the spooling. I spent as much energy and time unkinking it as I did pulling it into place.
*edit*
Rolling it seems to work really well!
the best way would be to ixate the outer end of the roll at the starting point. if you now roll the pipe the way where its supposed to lay, it will not be twisted.
aha ~ this sounds like the way audio cables are rolled ~ trying to figure this out
@@colecolettecole i actually was a sound tech for a while XD
@@BouncingTribbles me too ~ so whats your answer ~ 1/4 turn ? ~ i roll my garden hose like audio as well as large power cables
@@colecolettecole exactly. It's just cord physics: garden hoses, rope, charger cables. I definitely use my theater training more often than my math
The geese watching as a group, OMG HILARIOUS; cackling amongst themselves..."what in the hell does he think he's doing, ahahhahaha...ehehehhehe"
It's the random Toby shot for me 🤣 11:06
10:29 Start at the top of the hill, and roll down hill. Save your back man!
Never clicked so fast when I saw the notification
Same
top of hill tape to fence un roll easy right
What is the rise from the pump to the top of the hill and pump psi
Zip tie the cord to your fence, helps keep it neat and shapes it
Geese watching and laughing at you
Hahaha love this
If you'd have lashed a pole across the forks then placed the hose on the pole and secured one end to your start point.. you could have driven up the hill and it would have unrolled without kinking as you drove. . .
Love all your video. Give Toby a scritch for us 😎
Hard rolling uphill. Maybe can one try Marge it up, and then hand roll it down, if you eventually need to have more tubes on the other side of the perma culture? I know nothing abuot farming or pipes, or water, and maybe you have already said something about it - if not here it goes - are you going to dig a ditch along the fence and bury it (to keep the pipe from freezing in the winter)? Or is it a non-freeze thing? Does one roll it in in the fall? I'm sorry if it is a stupid question.
You drain the line in the fall. It is only for use during warmer seasons.
@@doloresreynolds8145 Oh, I see! Thank you for giving time, taking time, to answer a queless person. Nice to learn and understand things. Thank you!
Next roll place the roll between the forks and put a post throught the middle with each end clamped at the end of the forks. Lift the forks with the hydraulics. This way if you tie the outer end of the roll to a fence post and use the post as an axel in the middle it will roll out pulled by the tractor.
Morgan: *Buys a farm with a cow barn already on it*
Also Morgan: "We're bringing cows to this farm for the first time ever!"
ugh..try hard! Context isnt your strong suite, eh?
@@Sporting1210 : He probably earned the nickname "Captain Literal" with that comment, but he's not wrong... This won't be the first time cows were on that farm.
Anyway... What is your strong _suite?_ Junior, deluxe, executive, terrace, penthouse, villa, presidential?
@@StoneE4 that misses my point completely. ofc he is not wrong and yet: my comment stands-go figure.
@@Sporting1210 : Your point was as obvious as a dime-sized pimple on the end of someone's nose - no one missed it. It was even acknowledged in my reply.
When you used the word "suite" instead of the word "suit" was that an error of spelling or vocabulary? Whatever it was pull out a dictionary and fix yourself. In the future it would behoove you to proofread your posts so you don't sound like an imbecile when criticizing others for what you see as an inability to discern context.
ohnoe! an error! i guess i should type in my native language, eh?
You do realise ofc, that typing, spelling and vocable-knowledge are not the same as context reading - so putting them together to make a point is boderline whataboutism.
He wanted to make that joke no matter what - and so he did, hence the tryhard.
we have a saying in my country that originated from a desperate poet struggling to find the right words and translates to something like :
"rhyme! or i will eat you"
- if catch my drift ;)
I think you may have watched way to many Road Runner Cartoons a s a kid Morgan, hence the overwhelming feeling you were going to be Wylie Coyoteed when you cut open the pipe strapping.
I would have loved a longer video,,, but loved watching 😁👍
Have you thought how you are going to winterize the water line? That is one bulky waterhose you got there and with the weight of water at over 8 pounds per gallon, can get very awkward.
Love your trial and errors, and your videos.
I'm a total novice. I'm assuming you only need water during non freezing weather & you'll be evacuating the lines for winter? I think I heard you say they were wintering in the barn.
Have you considered running the line along the fence ON the fence about waist height & attaching it to the fence so no animals trample it? It would alleviate any kinks.
If you had a water trough at each coupling you'd not need to run the line through the swails. They would just come to the trough.
That’s correct!
But that does not work to water the trees….
@@doloresreynolds8145 but does encourage cattle to come to the trees (and eat them).
They make a special tractor attachment that buries the water line as you drive. Hose coil stay on a reel that unwinds it as you drive along. Check out Clarksons Farm on Amazon, he used on to run water for his sheep.
Attach the pipeline to the fence with zip ties
OMG the kinks in the hose are freakin me out!!!