Lots of professionals here. He clearly states all the time and even in this video that this is how he does stuff and why he does it. You can still do stuff your way.
There is a tape called Pasco. It’s a 20 mil pvc tape for wrapping pipe when you bury it. It’s a good idea to wrap those SS clamps after everything is tested. Minerals, hot soil and water can deteriorate those clamps. They are typically just 304 SS, which isn’t a very high grade.
Paul you did explain why you did it that way and it is understandable never mind the so call experts. It looks like a lot of work at my age no way I could do that 😄 Great job. Awesome video thanks 😊
Great information. A single concern. There are many soil types that can slump in and bury you alive. Looks like the soil you were digging in was reasonably safe and you got away with it. No one should assume they are safe in a trench that deep! Might be better spooling out line along side the trench and feeding it in, then only work where you need to in the trench or widen it at that point. My guys worked a project where 2 died in a trench this size!
Would have been so much easier To use a 3550 trencher because you can use hook the poly pipe up to the digging chain and pull it with the machine. But this guys method was actually pretty smart, just a little unnecessary in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing your techniques. I need to run 200 ft for a new garage/shop and with some Ts along the way. I was planning to use 1" poly pipe since is not for household water use except to wash down stuff with. I might go with 1 1/4" to get better flow.
Those exposed pipes were the bane of my existence growing up in trailers like that (and a stilt house... in Oklahoma). We never were able to insulate them well enough and every winter we were under the house on the coldest days replacing PVC. Sucked. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that (hopefully) ever again.
Nice job. Lots of work. I'll be building a post and beam home in Vermont very soon. Your channel has been a great source for inspiration and information. Thanks
You joining the marines my friend, spanking hair cut you got there, love the show as always. Just wished I was 1% as handy as you. if your ever in the UK I've got loads of stuff needs doing' lol
2 arm chair comments. Pulling the styrofoam cover looks like it will also make a man out of you and just because you can use a 2' bucket doesn't mean the rest of us can! Enjoyed the video. I'd like to meet the 1 of 1817 and share a beer, sure I'd be the one buying!
I watched a plumber install valves at the tee and ask why he does that. He said those are isolation valves; so that when he has to work on a line off the tee he does not have to shut off the whole line. A suggestion is lay a tracer tape about a foot down above the pipe; so that you can find the pipe in the future; also if someone digs in that area they will hit the tape an know there is something below the tape. I my area the irrigation supply store rents the machine to fuse the pipe together.
Make some rebar staples to hold the ends of the pipe down to prevent putting pressure on the fittings while the rolled pipe is being installed. But I would ask, since you are installing two inch line, why the water provider did not install equipment for a two inch line and only installed equipment for a one inch line? A two inch line will not flow anymore water than the one inch supply line can provide.
You did a great job trenching the waterline in however I would have done it differently. I'd use the backhoe to dig Bell holes use a trencher with insertion tube( only if you fear a cave in) its quicker and easier can be done by one person but prefer a second person just to guide the pipe into the tube and keep an eye on things
Was the 2" free or lower cost? I don't understand if the stub off the main line from the township was 1" how doing anything larger helps you? it will lower your pressure, but give you more volume of course. I have no experience here other than a single fluid power class in college! I have always wish my parents would have had a larger line ran from their road to their house about 250 yards away, they have never had enough pressure or volume. When I go to build I'll go as large as I reasonably can if I have municipal water service option.
2" is massive man! Great install, I'm curious why you decided to go 2" and not say 1 1/4 or even 1 1/2. I don't know what pressure they provide you at the meter. But wow, in my experience You can run several houses on 1" with all the new low volume toilets and 2gpm shower heads we have now. Great video as always!
That is a really large service line for just a house. My only thought is if they have plans for animals or farming. I know several farmers in Iowa that have 3" service for all of their water needs.
@@timseabee I'm guessing its town water, so its probably chlorinated, I wouldn't like using it for irrigation, but yeah. 2" is crazy I would use 2" to do whole small development. Maybe 6-8 homes.
He may be thinking ahead... Other future properties or buildings can now have access without having to redo the line. He also said (2:20) that another home will be on the property.
Hey it’s Harvey from Toronto, Canada. I wanted to mention the insulation on the water hoses under the mobile home is necessary because it might get serious in cold weather. Let me know if I’m wrong. Thanks
Curious why you didn't use CTS pipe and pack joint fittings? Here in southern Indiana we used the above at 3' down and sheathed it with 2" PVC pipe where it crossed the driveway. We also laid a signal wire along it to find the line later.
I hope that you used an all stainless hose clamp with a stainless steel screw rated for underground. otherwise the screw will rust and the clamp.will let loose. It does not look like you did.
How do you determine whether you need 2" or 1 1/2" to get adequate water flow. We are going to be running water line approximately 450 - 500 feet part of it uphill. Also can you advise on suppliers for the poly pipe that you used? We are going to be building in Tennessee.
Would have gone ahead and made the T connection and put 4 or 5 feet of line toward the future location then buried and marked the end for the future So you wouldn't had to deal with the T.
Im guessing your talking about where I went from 2” to 1.25”. It was a 2” brass T with (2” to 1.25” brass bushings) then I had brass barbed fitting that screwed into the appropriate spot.
@@EdwardTilley You can't link anything in a RUclips comment, but you can do your own searching.. Every manufacture clearly states to warm the pipe ends with water and using a open flame (Torch) voids the warranty..
@@FJB2020 Thanks I will do a search. FYI - only ... I add links all the time; just copy and paste the link from your browser and it works great so others can see what it is I'm referring to ...
@@EdwardTilley Nope.. RUclips auto deletes any outside link. I just tried it and it is gone already. But you can go to Menards (that is where he buys a lot of stuff so he might have bought the pipe there). Take a look at any SIDR HDPE pipe and click on the Technical Doc... It clearly states "DO NOT USE A TORCH" You can go to any other manufacture and they all say the same thing.
Safety issue -- standing in a trench that deep with no help in sight or even nearby is awfully dangerous. That trench could collapse on you with no warning, and you'd be there (alive, hopefully) until someone missed you....
I am not sure, but my guess is that maybe you could request a larger than 1" connection from the utility if you didn't have enough volume and it would be an easy swap at the meter
What I don't understand is in my experience you cannot go from a 1 inch pipe to a 2 inch pipe and expect to have the same water pressure even though you're going back to a smaller size pipe the water pressure would be diminished by a lot?
You sir are an animal. It took three of us to unroll a 500' 2" poly gas line on the ground a few weeks ago. Need to spool out another 1000' feet in about a week, we built a reel that fits into the receiver of a truck out of an old axle and hub. I will get some video of it when we do it and share the process. Great work.
Paul, I'm curious as to how much this would cost me if I hired someone or a company to do this. I'm going to be building my new home soon, and will need to run a similar amount of pipe as in the video.
great video. In similar soils........... what would be the average cost per linear foot for installation? Not including materials or machinery. Thank you
greetings mr. paul; as i see it you only need to put some brick bats in your back pockets. it helps to weigh you down and give you traction..............g
Who was that clean-shaven guy narrating? lol Nice job, Paul! If you're going to do more work with that 2" water line, I'd recommend fabricating a "shepherds hook" that you can attach to the 3-point connection on the tractors TPO. You could put that big spool on the hook and drive the length letting the hose unwind from around your hook. Old guys like me think of this stuff because we spent too many years believing we were still 10 ft tall and bullet proof!
THAT IS ONE LONG RUN OF PIPE. SOLID INSTALL‼️ Impressive skills, Being a retired Custom Home Builder I know skilled contractors. Many contractors can get jobs done but few are talented enough that can do the job themselves without hiring subs. You are skilled with the tools, I would be relieved knowing you were building my house. VERY IMPRESSIVE ‼️‼️. Vinny 🇺🇸
I’m doing a 1000 feet of of gravity fed water line from our spring to our home. This drop from spring to home is about 400 feet down hill. The existing pipe is 3” boiler pipe pre dating WWII then reduced to 2” galvanized then to 3/4 galvanized into the home. I’m thinking I would do something like you did in the video. I’m being told that The size of the line doesn’t mater that it could be 1” all the way and I’d still have the same continuous 70 Pounds of pressure. What do you think?
Its all good. For next time, digging thinner trench with larger join "manhole" at the start - and unrolling and joining pipe on the surface whenever you can, would have been safer and easier. I realize you've been there and done that but ... but unrolling in the trench is unnecessary and risky because you are squeezing pipe through a 2' trench and neck-deep in a collapsible trench on your own. A down-burst of rain would have made the day very dangerous? Great video - makes us think about everything.
As always, impressive to see how you are able to succeed in completing big projects essentially by yourself. You are very inspirational.
Stinking amazing actually the Ingenuity you use as you do 90% of your stuff solo.. Applause applause👏👏👏👏
Lots of professionals here. He clearly states all the time and even in this video that this is how he does stuff and why he does it. You can still do stuff your way.
"Professionals"
And we're wanting to know why he's doing it this way.
There is a tape called Pasco. It’s a 20 mil pvc tape for wrapping pipe when you bury it. It’s a good idea to wrap those SS clamps after everything is tested. Minerals, hot soil and water can deteriorate those clamps. They are typically just 304 SS, which isn’t a very high grade.
“That’s going to be a wrap on the water line installation”. Nice pun there!
Paul you did explain why you did it that way and it is understandable never mind the so call experts. It looks like a lot of work at my age no way I could do that 😄 Great job. Awesome video thanks 😊
Also I love how there is virtually no rocks in your earth! I can't dig two feet without hitting suitcase sized boulders if I am lucky!
Great information. A single concern. There are many soil types that can slump in and bury you alive. Looks like the soil you were digging in was reasonably safe and you got away with it. No one should assume they are safe in a trench that deep! Might be better spooling out line along side the trench and feeding it in, then only work where you need to in the trench or widen it at that point. My guys worked a project where 2 died in a trench this size!
Would have been so much easier To use a 3550 trencher because you can use hook the poly pipe up to the digging chain and pull it with the machine. But this guys method was actually pretty smart, just a little unnecessary in my opinion.
I don’t believe u
Awesome Paul - I love machine work like that. Got my first start on a Hymac doing land drainage but it's been some years now since I sat on a digger.
We are 2 weeks away from doing this exact line install same pipe. Thank you very much for this video.
Very nice watching you set up the water lines and is great how you explain the process. , thanks for sharing! 😊👍💕💕💕
You are a champion!
You are one good brother, brother!
Great job -Water on !!!!!!
One man,you highly essential my guy.thanks for the vids
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing your techniques. I need to run 200 ft for a new garage/shop and with some Ts along the way. I was planning to use 1" poly pipe since is not for household water use except to wash down stuff with. I might go with 1 1/4" to get better flow.
Those exposed pipes were the bane of my existence growing up in trailers like that (and a stilt house... in Oklahoma). We never were able to insulate them well enough and every winter we were under the house on the coldest days replacing PVC. Sucked. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that (hopefully) ever again.
Nice job. Lots of work. I'll be building a post and beam home in Vermont very soon. Your channel has been a great source for inspiration and information.
Thanks
Always interesting, always informative. Thank you for sharing.
Hopefully getting my waterline bought this weekend!
Whoohoo!
good job Paul, thanks for sharing
Very nice work.
Thank you very much!
Beastmode!
Very nice job 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Amazing work!!
Thanks!
You joining the marines my friend, spanking hair cut you got there, love the show as always. Just wished I was 1% as handy as you. if your ever in the UK I've got loads of stuff needs doing' lol
Working in a trench alone is dangerous.. glad you got it done safely
Yeah hoping that’s one of the last times to go it alone
i like the new haircut :)
In my area they recommend surrounding the pipe with rocks to prevent rodents from chewing on the water line.
2 arm chair comments. Pulling the styrofoam cover looks like it will also make a man out of you and just because you can use a 2' bucket doesn't mean the rest of us can! Enjoyed the video. I'd like to meet the 1 of 1817 and share a beer, sure I'd be the one buying!
I watched a plumber install valves at the tee and ask why he does that. He said those are isolation valves; so that when he has to work on a line off the tee he does not have to shut off the whole line. A suggestion is lay a tracer tape about a foot down above the pipe; so that you can find the pipe in the future; also if someone digs in that area they will hit the tape an know there is something below the tape. I my area the irrigation supply store rents the machine to fuse the pipe together.
Make some rebar staples to hold the ends of the pipe down to prevent putting pressure on the fittings while the rolled pipe is being installed.
But I would ask, since you are installing two inch line, why the water provider did not install equipment for a two inch line and only installed equipment for a one inch line? A two inch line will not flow anymore water than the one inch supply line can provide.
You did a great job trenching the waterline in however I would have done it differently. I'd use the backhoe to dig Bell holes use a trencher with insertion tube( only if you fear a cave in) its quicker and easier can be done by one person but prefer a second person just to guide the pipe into the tube and keep an eye on things
The whole Point of this video was if you don't have a second person so I'm not sure what your comment was meant for?
Try using the backhoe for unrolling the pipe ! Add attachment ?
I wish I could dig in dirt like that. All rocks for me
Was the 2" free or lower cost? I don't understand if the stub off the main line from the township was 1" how doing anything larger helps you? it will lower your pressure, but give you more volume of course. I have no experience here other than a single fluid power class in college! I have always wish my parents would have had a larger line ran from their road to their house about 250 yards away, they have never had enough pressure or volume. When I go to build I'll go as large as I reasonably can if I have municipal water service option.
Not sure if that's a hair cut or a head cut ... :) Looking good!!!
Haha thanks!
What is the average cost / ft for a water line? Is it the same for all utilities? I appreciate the videos.
2" is massive man! Great install, I'm curious why you decided to go 2" and not say 1 1/4 or even 1 1/2. I don't know what pressure they provide you at the meter. But wow, in my experience You can run several houses on 1" with all the new low volume toilets and 2gpm shower heads we have now. Great video as always!
That is a really large service line for just a house. My only thought is if they have plans for animals or farming. I know several farmers in Iowa that have 3" service for all of their water needs.
@@timseabee I'm guessing its town water, so its probably chlorinated, I wouldn't like using it for irrigation, but yeah. 2" is crazy I would use 2" to do whole small development. Maybe 6-8 homes.
He may be thinking ahead... Other future properties or buildings can now have access without having to redo the line. He also said (2:20) that another home will be on the property.
@@artisticboundaries You are right, but even then... Dang! that is some capacity!
Resistance to flow is linear to length. So this 700 foot pipe has 20 times more resistance than a typical home 35' service to the street.
thank u for info
Thanks for watching!
Hey it’s Harvey from Toronto, Canada. I wanted to mention the insulation on the water hoses under the mobile home is necessary because it might get serious in cold weather. Let me know if I’m wrong. Thanks
Okey
Curious why you didn't use CTS pipe and pack joint fittings? Here in southern Indiana we used the above at 3' down and sheathed it with 2" PVC pipe where it crossed the driveway. We also laid a signal wire along it to find the line later.
Let me ask?
Are you showing us an extention of a water line attachment?
Thanks.
I hope that you used an all stainless hose clamp with a stainless steel screw rated for underground. otherwise the screw will rust and the clamp.will let loose. It does not look like you did.
why it has to be under the ground? pipe over the ground is easy to fix if you have leaks in feature
How do you determine whether you need 2" or 1 1/2" to get adequate water flow. We are going to be running water line approximately 450 - 500 feet part of it uphill. Also can you advise on suppliers for the poly pipe that you used? We are going to be building in Tennessee.
Lorrie did you ever get an answer to your question? We are about to do the same thing, attaching to a 3/4 fitting at the meter.
What I think Mr Marshall is that you are extremely good at what you do. A treat to watch and learn. Many thanks. Best regards Karen
Hope they dont have problems with bacteria in there water because there is a lot of volume in this pipe, or isnt that water for drinking?
Why no "Do Not Dig" buried safety tape above water line before completing backfill?
He's the only one who will be digging!!!
Why not just pex?
Where did you buy the 2" blue poly pipe? I can't find any at Home Depot or other locations.
Would have gone ahead and made the T connection and put 4 or 5 feet of line toward the future location then buried and marked the end for the future So you wouldn't had to deal with the T.
Agreed and add Ford valve at each of the T lines to isolate one branch or the other or both.
Paul how long did it take time wise to do the waterline job?
What’s the name of the coupling you used, and what parts did u use to make that tee?
Im guessing your talking about where I went from 2” to 1.25”. It was a 2” brass T with (2” to 1.25” brass bushings) then I had brass barbed fitting that screwed into the appropriate spot.
put a box over it
Theres 1000 ways to skin a cat
After you pressurized the line, if there WAS a leak, I would have been shook. Leaks are not part of your vocabulary
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Heating the pipe with a torch voids the warranty... You should use hot water as recommended by the manufacture...
have you got a link to the manufacturer's recommended approach?
yea right
@@EdwardTilley You can't link anything in a RUclips comment, but you can do your own searching.. Every manufacture clearly states to warm the pipe ends with water and using a open flame (Torch) voids the warranty..
@@FJB2020 Thanks I will do a search. FYI - only ... I add links all the time; just copy and paste the link from your browser and it works great so others can see what it is I'm referring to ...
@@EdwardTilley Nope.. RUclips auto deletes any outside link. I just tried it and it is gone already. But you can go to Menards (that is where he buys a lot of stuff so he might have bought the pipe there). Take a look at any SIDR HDPE pipe and click on the Technical Doc... It clearly states "DO NOT USE A TORCH" You can go to any other manufacture and they all say the same thing.
Safety issue -- standing in a trench that deep with no help in sight or even nearby is awfully dangerous. That trench could collapse on you with no warning, and you'd be there (alive, hopefully) until someone missed you....
You'll be fine
okay boomer
Why go to two inch from a one inch you gained nothing. Just wasted money.
I am not sure, but my guess is that maybe you could request a larger than 1" connection from the utility if you didn't have enough volume and it would be an easy swap at the meter
Was going to ask the same thing... is this a code requirement ("waste" - as you say) ??
pressure drop over long runs, just like voltage drop in electrical wiring
@@jasher452x Thanks, I was sure there had to be an obviously good reason - like most things...
It’s like the standing water in a well. The two inch line gives you head pressure.
What I don't understand is in my experience you cannot go from a 1 inch pipe to a 2 inch pipe and expect to have the same water pressure even though you're going back to a smaller size pipe the water pressure would be diminished by a lot?
He didn't... He stepped down for the other house at the T.
Ignore the know it alls and keep up the good work, Paul..you have inspired so many ppl. THANKS!
You sir are an animal. It took three of us to unroll a 500' 2" poly gas line on the ground a few weeks ago. Need to spool out another 1000' feet in about a week, we built a reel that fits into the receiver of a truck out of an old axle and hub. I will get some video of it when we do it and share the process. Great work.
Please do share!
Paul, I'm curious as to how much this would cost me if I hired someone or a company to do this. I'm going to be building my new home soon, and will need to run a similar amount of pipe as in the video.
This video actually has a lot of the cost breakdown ruclips.net/video/Qbf6r3CL8Fg/видео.html
great video. In similar soils........... what would be the average cost per linear foot for installation? Not including materials or machinery. Thank you
Great job Paul! Agree with your method, well done.
Thanks 👍
greetings mr. paul; as i see it you only need to put some brick bats in your back pockets. it helps to weigh you down and give you traction..............g
Who was that clean-shaven guy narrating? lol Nice job, Paul! If you're going to do more work with that 2" water line, I'd recommend fabricating a "shepherds hook" that you can attach to the 3-point connection on the tractors TPO. You could put that big spool on the hook and drive the length letting the hose unwind from around your hook. Old guys like me think of this stuff because we spent too many years believing we were still 10 ft tall and bullet proof!
I did not see a copper wire along the length of the pipe for future location point. Greetings from a VERY old plumber in Australia
Thanks Paul for all of your videos. Very helpful as we are getting ready to start our build this spring in E central IA.
You clean up real nice...[snicker]. Thx for the informative video.
THAT IS ONE LONG RUN OF PIPE. SOLID INSTALL‼️ Impressive skills, Being a retired Custom Home Builder I know skilled contractors. Many contractors can get jobs done but few are talented enough that can do the job themselves without hiring subs. You are skilled with the tools, I would be relieved knowing you were building my house. VERY IMPRESSIVE ‼️‼️. Vinny 🇺🇸
Can you provide a link to the fitting?
Why not drill a well?
Sheee electrical next
I’m doing a 1000 feet of of gravity fed water line from our spring to our home. This drop from spring to home is about 400 feet down hill. The existing pipe is 3” boiler pipe pre dating WWII then reduced to 2” galvanized then to 3/4 galvanized into the home.
I’m thinking I would do something like you did in the video. I’m being told that The size of the line doesn’t mater that it could be 1” all the way and I’d still have the same continuous 70 Pounds of pressure. What do you think?
What's the actual elevation difference between the spring and your house, approximately, not 400' ?
Doesn’t galvanized pipe have lead and cadmium that is released once the pipe starts to corrode
Thank you Paul!
👍
If top soil is good double trench. IE put top soil on one side and sub soil on other.
Its all good. For next time, digging thinner trench with larger join "manhole" at the start - and unrolling and joining pipe on the surface whenever you can, would have been safer and easier. I realize you've been there and done that but ... but unrolling in the trench is unnecessary and risky because you are squeezing pipe through a 2' trench and neck-deep in a collapsible trench on your own. A down-burst of rain would have made the day very dangerous? Great video - makes us think about everything.