Good start! I would be amazed if you ever had a client who DIDN'T want HO scale modern unit trains (plus "Big Boy excursions") running on double mains and yards (plural) in the smallest of oddly shaped rooms- Oh yeah, also need *these* (gigantic) industries and signature scenes :) Ahh the challenge.. One question though- would moving that HVAC room door around to the other wall closer to the entry area been possible?
@@mpeterll If money is no object then suggesting the client buy a disused supermarket or big box store is always an option 🙄. But I seriously doubt that would be an option.
Very unique shape. That single layout section behind you in the opening and closing scenes is crying out for you to unpack the rest of the sections and start mending your layout back together. I'd very much like to see you putting your layout back together and upgrading electronics and scenery or whatever you may have planned for it. Expanded maybe if room size permits? Great video as always and fun, interesting, and informative aswell. Stay well. -Wil 👍
What a coincidence! The FWWR line from Cresson to Saginaw runs right past my place of employment. I work in a neat area of manufacturing facilities that is serviced by the FWWR in a gritty, spaghetti style mess of track work. Kind of cool to a "personal experience" get drawn up. Let me know if you need photos!
It also has a closet. The closet will have some hidden staging. I am using lift outs at the doors. I was going to use a hinge on one of them but decided against it. I am more or less using modules and fixed components.
That 4th plan with the helix in the hvac area looked like the best option to me but you have to follow the customers directions. Does this room butt up to the pool table room? I’ve seen you do some magical things but even you would be challenged to fit a first class railroad with all of those desires into that space. Thanks for sharing.
Hi, Just an observation: The door to the not to use area - lower left - should turn into this room instead of turning into the layout room. Is some gain after all. Nice project. Wish you success !
No it cannot swing into the room because of the raised floor area. There is a step up immediately after the door and then another one about 18" further in.
The schematic that was selected has _three_ loops in it. Would you be using all of them or is this just to show the options available to the final design? Thanks. Looks like a lot of interesting work ahead.
I model the FWWR also here in Tx. really interested in the design and what your doing. If yu have any question give me a holler. I've been modeling the FWWR for the past 15 years lots of photos of area if you need more. Wayne Snyder Gainesville, tx
More than likely, an "easy" design project can be handled by the client without help. Most people I hear from have tried and failed to come up with a satisfactory design.
Did you wonder why he does not want his layout in the basement? Well he doesn’t have one, homes in north Texas are built on slabs because we have a high clay content in our soil that expands and contracts. Basements without extensive (and expensive) structural reinforcement crack and crumble. And attics are very very hot in the summer. My wife and I are empty nesters, but now with a live in Father in law and Grand kids taking up space I still can’t get my wife to let me have one of the four bedrooms for a layout. Hmm, maybe the kitchen, she never cooks anyway.
Actually I don't generally question where a client wants to build his railroad. The only time layout location comes into the discussion is when the list of wants far exceeds the available space and the client has a choice of trimming the want list or finding a bigger site. Yes I did know about the general absence of basements in parts of Texas, but didn't know about the clay. If you really want a basement, it should be a fairly straightforward fix - just back-fill with sand instead of the soil that came out of the hole.
I did consider releasing the first two installments together, but my former backlog of uploaded videos has become a backlog of videos I've not yet created - the downside of my business becoming so successful recently.
I like the shorter videos myself. 15 minutes or less is good so as to keep ones attention or focus from drifting away and missing parts after a video starts to get very lengthy. But to each their own. You may like longer videos and be able to stay focused where others would not. 👍
I hope you can use visual (virtual...)depth in backgrounds to the maximum benefit. Geeze. Why can't these people be more realistic? I mean, look, if you want big, you'll have to compromise something, to keep something. Good luck. Looks like you'll need as much as possible on this one. Too bad it's HO. It would be half as difficult in N. Whew!
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Looking forward to see how you do it all....thanks for sharing....Jack 👍👍
very interesting,thank you for bringing us along
looks like an interesting layout in the planning.
Can’t wait to see the next installment
Good start! I would be amazed if you ever had a client who DIDN'T want HO scale modern unit trains (plus "Big Boy excursions") running on double mains and yards (plural) in the smallest of oddly shaped rooms- Oh yeah, also need *these* (gigantic) industries and signature scenes :) Ahh the challenge.. One question though- would moving that HVAC room door around to the other wall closer to the entry area been possible?
Well there have been a few . . . 0-scale in an N-scale space.
@@mpeterll
If money is no object then suggesting the client buy a disused supermarket or big box store is always an option 🙄. But I seriously doubt that would be an option.
thank you for great detail video as all way layout well to understand as watching the video
Very unique shape. That single layout section behind you in the opening and closing scenes is crying out for you to unpack the rest of the sections and start mending your layout back together. I'd very much like to see you putting your layout back together and upgrading electronics and scenery or whatever you may have planned for it. Expanded maybe if room size permits? Great video as always and fun, interesting, and informative aswell. Stay well. -Wil 👍
What a coincidence! The FWWR line from Cresson to Saginaw runs right past my place of employment. I work in a neat area of manufacturing facilities that is serviced by the FWWR in a gritty, spaghetti style mess of track work. Kind of cool to a "personal experience" get drawn up. Let me know if you need photos!
I won't be building this layout, but maybe the client will want to take you up on that offer. Thank-you.
Very good video. I am presently constructing a layout in a difficult room. 3 doors and a closet.
That sounds like a challenge. Doors can kill a layout room in a hurry, especially if they are spread out evenly.
It also has a closet. The closet will have some hidden staging. I am using lift outs at the doors. I was going to use a hinge on one of them but decided against it. I am more or less using modules and fixed components.
That 4th plan with the helix in the hvac area looked like the best option to me but you have to follow the customers directions. Does this room butt up to the pool table room? I’ve seen you do some magical things but even you would be challenged to fit a first class railroad with all of those desires into that space. Thanks for sharing.
There's a bathroom and an unfinished attic space between the two rooms.
The results will be published in a few more days.
Hi, Just an observation: The door to the not to use area - lower left - should turn into this room instead of turning into the layout room. Is some gain after all. Nice project. Wish you success !
No it cannot swing into the room because of the raised floor area. There is a step up immediately after the door and then another one about 18" further in.
Why not move the HVAC room access door to a perpendicular wall? Next to return air duct, it might open some possibilities without much expense.
It's probably a very good idea but I didn't think of it.
The schematic that was selected has _three_ loops in it. Would you be using all of them or is this just to show the options available to the final design? Thanks. Looks like a lot of interesting work ahead.
The answer to this and many other questions will be revealed next week.
what happened to the immoveable pool table?
We left it where it was and moved the railroad to a different room.
I model the FWWR also here in Tx. really interested in the design and what your doing. If yu have any question give me a holler. I've been modeling the FWWR for the past 15 years lots of photos of area if you need more.
Wayne Snyder
Gainesville, tx
Make the door into the HVAC room a sliding door and move it to the wall with the return air duct.
Is NASA going to build the helix? They can dig up the blue prints for the Saturn 5
Nah. Not going to employ NASA for anything until the come clean about the moon landings.
@@mpeterll Good answer, I've been admiring your work for years, your clients have a master building their layouts.
Crikey - you don't seem to get easy projects! (Except on April 1...)
More than likely, an "easy" design project can be handled by the client without help. Most people I hear from have tried and failed to come up with a satisfactory design.
Did you wonder why he does not want his layout in the basement? Well he doesn’t have one, homes in north Texas are built on slabs because we have a high clay content in our soil that expands and contracts. Basements without extensive (and expensive) structural reinforcement crack and crumble. And attics are very very hot in the summer. My wife and I are empty nesters, but now with a live in Father in law and Grand kids taking up space I still can’t get my wife to let me have one of the four bedrooms for a layout. Hmm, maybe the kitchen, she never cooks anyway.
Actually I don't generally question where a client wants to build his railroad. The only time layout location comes into the discussion is when the list of wants far exceeds the available space and the client has a choice of trimming the want list or finding a bigger site.
Yes I did know about the general absence of basements in parts of Texas, but didn't know about the clay. If you really want a basement, it should be a fairly straightforward fix - just back-fill with sand instead of the soil that came out of the hole.
Sorry I mean lower right !
The suspense is killing us. If you wanted to make a bigger installment, that would have been no problem ! Thanks anyways !
I did consider releasing the first two installments together, but my former backlog of uploaded videos has become a backlog of videos I've not yet created - the downside of my business becoming so successful recently.
@@mpeterll
Well, one does need to eat. And keep ones priorities in order
I like the shorter videos myself. 15 minutes or less is good so as to keep ones attention or focus from drifting away and missing parts after a video starts to get very lengthy. But to each their own. You may like longer videos and be able to stay focused where others would not. 👍
I hope you can use visual (virtual...)depth in backgrounds to the maximum benefit. Geeze. Why can't these people be more realistic? I mean, look, if you want big, you'll have to compromise something, to keep something. Good luck. Looks like you'll need as much as possible on this one. Too bad it's HO. It would be half as difficult in N.
Whew!
Why does everybody always want a bite bigger than they can chew.
Human nature, I guess.
First!