Nice vid. I particularly like the street running idea. Have to say though that 30" is a better radius. As an N scale modeler who likes to run some auto racks and passenger cars, I'm glad I stuck to that. Like you said, plenty of space available here.
Most people will go up to HO-scale if they have room for 30" curves. I don't think I've ever seen an N-scale layout with a mainline minimum above 22" - and most are smaller. You are correct however; long cars will always look better on bigger curves and even your 30" curves are still too sharp by prototype standards. For example, Tehachapi loop is a sharp curve but I'm told that it would scale out at around 46" radius in N-scale.
I very much enjoy how you use what could be quite a dry subject, a discussion of a plan, to tell a story building up a series of images of a whole community, perhaps a series of communities, all interacting and producing a busy and complex series of interactions. From the point of view of a UK watcher it is fascinating to realise how much of the remaining US rail system is dependent on freight, whereas in the UK, most freight has moved off-rail and onto the roads, and our railways have become pretty well passenger dominated, though with a few obvious exceptions. Or are US modellers trying to recapture a mode of transport that is dying out over there? Having said that I have really enjoyed my few excursions on US rail routes, notably the commuter services out of New York, and longer distance routes in California.
US railroads are mostly about hauling long-distant freight. Other than a few big-city commuter lines and a handful of Amtrak routes, there really isn't any passenger service here. Most passenger trains were abandoned in the 1950's when the railroads lost the mail contracts to the trucking industry.
Your space us still pretty good for N-scale. In fact I recently published an N-scale layout design for a space a little smaller than yours. Maybe you can adapt it.
NS Lake Division Fort Wayne, IN repurposed a car shop and engine house facility into their division headquarters. I think it is closed now with the headquarters being moved to Cincinnati but unsure of this. Anyway the turntable was still occasionally used to turn power. I turned a couple of engines myself. Well the roundhouse personnel did with me sitting in the cab. It might be cool to replicate that same look with his engine facility. I just looked at google maps street view and it is looking desolate. On the west side of the building you can see where the old bay doors were. From the overtop view you can see where the tracks once lead into the building.
Hello, I have a question, would you be able to do something in a 2.5mx2.5m room, so that I would sit inside and the model would stick out from the wall by a maximum of 50 cm :) ??? A challenge :P N scale of course :)
Yes, I can design an N-scale railroad for that kind of space with some kind of moving section that swings out of the way to give you access to the room. Please contact me through my web-site superiormodelrailroads.com
Really nice Peter. Just one question, have you been getting a lot of N scale design requests? And which was your favorite? I’m doing a N scale layout is the reason I ask.
I do seem to have had a lot of N-scale designs recently (a couple of months ago, I was working on three simultaneously), although HO-scale is likely to always be the majority. I personally prefer to build in HO-scale, although all scales have their advantages.
Do you ever design to a budget for the layout? For example, I have $2k and a 4'x8' space, can you design me a layout based on that space/budget? Also, do you ever provide a budget on what it would take to build a design? When I see your design videos, I am always curious what the track budget, scenery budget and structure budget would be for a layout of this size. In general, I do not know how much what I already own costs, but I am curious to know what I would need to save to build a layout like this.
Cranes and other tall structures are generally made removable anyway. By ensuring that such things are not glued down, they have more chance of surviving an occasional elbow-bump. If you're going to have to remove it for operation then there's no point in having it in the first place; that is why it was positioned where it was - so that it doesn't have to be removed.
If it's in the way, the time when it will be most in the way is during operations, when you're wanting to uncouple cars in the yard or the industries. If the crane needs to be removed for operations, it shouldn't be there at all.
I do remember that I got called away for an emergency during one of my design videos and then continued editing as soon as I returned. It may have been this one.
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Great layout, I enjoy seeing all the design ideas every week.
Nice vid. I particularly like the street running idea.
Have to say though that 30" is a better radius. As an N scale modeler who likes to run some auto racks and passenger cars, I'm glad I stuck to that. Like you said, plenty of space available here.
Most people will go up to HO-scale if they have room for 30" curves. I don't think I've ever seen an N-scale layout with a mainline minimum above 22" - and most are smaller.
You are correct however; long cars will always look better on bigger curves and even your 30" curves are still too sharp by prototype standards. For example, Tehachapi loop is a sharp curve but I'm told that it would scale out at around 46" radius in N-scale.
As always you make a great layout, thanks for sharing 👍👍👍👍
As usual - a beautifully developed track plan 👍
Thanks.
I very much enjoy how you use what could be quite a dry subject, a discussion of a plan, to tell a story building up a series of images of a whole community, perhaps a series of communities, all interacting and producing a busy and complex series of interactions.
From the point of view of a UK watcher it is fascinating to realise how much of the remaining US rail system is dependent on freight, whereas in the UK, most freight has moved off-rail and onto the roads, and our railways have become pretty well passenger dominated, though with a few obvious exceptions. Or are US modellers trying to recapture a mode of transport that is dying out over there? Having said that I have really enjoyed my few excursions on US rail routes, notably the commuter services out of New York, and longer distance routes in California.
US railroads are mostly about hauling long-distant freight. Other than a few big-city commuter lines and a handful of Amtrak routes, there really isn't any passenger service here. Most passenger trains were abandoned in the 1950's when the railroads lost the mail contracts to the trucking industry.
wow.. lots of room= endless possibilities
Enjoyed the video you put together today. Lot's going on.
Nice layout. Your client will have fun.
I hope so. That's the whole reason we are in the hobby.
Great job👍
Great layout plan
Thanks, glad you liked it.
👍👍👍great layout
Wow nice. A buildings (structures) persons perfect layout
Yes, quite a lot of structures, although also enough open scenery.
Super video😍🚂😉🍻
Nice. I only have half that. 12 by 16 or 11ft 6 in. by 15ft 6 in. Thank you for sharing.
Your space us still pretty good for N-scale. In fact I recently published an N-scale layout design for a space a little smaller than yours. Maybe you can adapt it.
@@mpeterll I will go see.
cant forget the obligatory starbucks of course
NS Lake Division Fort Wayne, IN repurposed a car shop and engine house facility into their division headquarters. I think it is closed now with the headquarters being moved to Cincinnati but unsure of this. Anyway the turntable was still occasionally used to turn power. I turned a couple of engines myself. Well the roundhouse personnel did with me sitting in the cab. It might be cool to replicate that same look with his engine facility. I just looked at google maps street view and it is looking desolate. On the west side of the building you can see where the old bay doors were. From the overtop view you can see where the tracks once lead into the building.
your dog as doing some great sound effects lol
Most of it I was able to edit out.
Hello, I have a question, would you be able to do something in a 2.5mx2.5m room, so that I would sit inside and the model would stick out from the wall by a maximum of 50 cm :) ??? A challenge :P N scale of course :)
Yes, I can design an N-scale railroad for that kind of space with some kind of moving section that swings out of the way to give you access to the room. Please contact me through my web-site superiormodelrailroads.com
This is off-topic but I don't know where else to ask. Have you ever done a narrow gauge design? (I model in 009.)
I recently did one layout with a small narrow-gauge interchange, here: ruclips.net/video/Gc8GgBxGpnA/видео.html
Hello Peter. Another wonderful layout plan. Are you currently working on a physical project? I always enjoy your videos. Thanks. Bye.
Expect a few more installments on the Missabe & Western soon.
Really nice Peter. Just one question, have you been getting a lot of N scale design requests? And which was your favorite? I’m doing a N scale layout is the reason I ask.
I do seem to have had a lot of N-scale designs recently (a couple of months ago, I was working on three simultaneously), although HO-scale is likely to always be the majority. I personally prefer to build in HO-scale, although all scales have their advantages.
Do you ever design to a budget for the layout? For example, I have $2k and a 4'x8' space, can you design me a layout based on that space/budget?
Also, do you ever provide a budget on what it would take to build a design? When I see your design videos, I am always curious what the track budget, scenery budget and structure budget would be for a layout of this size.
In general, I do not know how much what I already own costs, but I am curious to know what I would need to save to build a layout like this.
If I had to cost out every item prior to including it in a design, the design would cost more than the layout.
Why not have a container crane that can be lifted off if necessary.
Cranes and other tall structures are generally made removable anyway. By ensuring that such things are not glued down, they have more chance of surviving an occasional elbow-bump. If you're going to have to remove it for operation then there's no point in having it in the first place; that is why it was positioned where it was - so that it doesn't have to be removed.
If it's in the way, the time when it will be most in the way is during operations, when you're wanting to uncouple cars in the yard or the industries. If the crane needs to be removed for operations, it shouldn't be there at all.
Hello Sir 👋
At about 17 mins in the audio sounds like a chicken having an athsma attack.
16:59, must be a hard work out doing this video you breathing is rather heavy
I do remember that I got called away for an emergency during one of my design videos and then continued editing as soon as I returned. It may have been this one.
@@mpeterll at the 16:59 mark I can hear the dog breathing
I think your dog was trying to get your attention…
Always.