Whether you like bayverse or not, there’s no denying that the 07 movie was one of, if not the most important thing to ever happen to Transformers and made it as mainstream and popular as it is today
My biggest memory of Transformers in 2007 was just how excruciatingly difficult it was to get any toys of the characters that were in the movie. Besides characters that weren't in the movie or fodder in the video game (I saw Swindle and Payload in droves warming the pegs at the Targets and Toys R Us' at the time), there was no way I could get a piece of the characters I loved from the movie. My only figure from the movie was in the All-Spark repaints, and it was the Stealth Bumblebee repaint of his Concept Camaro figure. Let's just say there was a reason I stuck with Bionicle during this time.
@@WilliamMoeller-rr2opI had no idea and now I’m more grateful for my mom and older brother. My brother worked at Canadian Tire and his close friend worked at Toys R Us. When the movie dropped, both of them held the main cast of toys at both locations and my mom scooped them all up for me. Damn. Just know that whoever reads this: I treated them well and played with them for all of those who didn’t have the chance 😔❤️
Voyager 2007 Wreckage is such a smart idea. I can’t believe I never even considered it before. Ig I’ve been too focused on getting a new 2007 Longarm toy. Anyway, would love to see both
07 Movie Prime is a great figure. ROTF Leader Prime gets a ton of love that people forget about this one. I feel it's one of the most overlooked Prime figures because people praised ROTF Prime so much it got a bad reputation. Sure, he has "chunk" but he completely makes it work.
Yeah, that was the one that I had as a kid because I couldn’t find the original anywhere. I really loved that figure especially with the fun bunny ears nickname that he got.
I'm just going to say it- the HasTak designers did their absolute best with what they were given by the first Bay movie, and a lot of what they did holds up pretty darn well from an engineering standpoint.
The 07 Protoform Starscream and Optimus figures were amazing to me. They looked great and were fun to play with. They are always gonna be my favorites in that line.
I can't describe how much I wanted that Alternators Ravage. I stalked every Wal-Mart I could for weeks and none of them ever got it in stock. 17 years later and have still never even seen one in person.
I wasn't old enough to remember this toyline as a kid but it's amazing. I love the figures here. That Optimus Prime is probably one of my favorite looking Optimus Prime toys ever. I'm excited for 2011 because DOTM is a toyline i absolutely love and was actually getting at the time. Edit: I had that Darth Vader transformer. I'd forgotten about it but right ss i saw it i was almost flooded with memories of loving that toy. So great.
In college, I found a comic panel someone online made of the Darth Vader Death Star. He had just destroyed a planet and turned around to find Galactus and Unicron angrily staring at him saying "You know, some of us were going to eat that!"
Yeah, the Leader class Optimus Prime is certainly one of the best, I still got him in my collection. But the ROTF is the superior all the way. I brought out the Wreckage figure when you were talking about it, he is pretty cool and easy enough to transform. Pretty epic year with that live action movie, I was mind blown when I first saw Prime transform and then talk to Sam with that iconic voice, what a moment!
That Ravage car was not the first time a vehicle had a beast mode instead of robot. Way back in 1986 we had a space shuttle with no robot mode but a beast mode in SkyLynx
when did Dropkick come out? because that toy is INCREDIBLE, the best pickup truck HasTak have ever done BY FAR, the robot mode is wildly different from the truck and the transformation is a joy to do.
In retrospect, though I was wowed by Transformers 2007, it's not a great movie (naturally). But the toys were surprisingly solid, for the most part. Wreckage is my favorite of this year. Absolutely a banger. I'm not the biggest fan of Ratchet's design but I do have to give the figure props, it's got a neat transformation. ROTF is where I bought the most of my movie toys though.
Appreciated as always. I have to say the movie designs really threw me for a loop, so I opted out. I'm trying to think if there were new Classics during 2007 or anything from Animated, but that might be 2008.
I'm glad you thought Ironhide was fun because he was honestly one of my least favorite toys from the 07 movie line. whenever I tried to do the automorph in the feet I would have to guide multiple parts at once to avoid stripping the gears, the chest would never stay up, and the clear plastic windshield very quickly wore out. Also, the instructions showed the cannon with the missiles being removed and placed on the front of the cannon with the plungers, but it was actually easier to fire them if you did the opposite; remove the cannon with the plungers and place it on the back of the cannon with the missiles so that you had more clearance for your fingers, which of course the kibble got in the way of and any attempt to launch them would cause the chest to fall.
This was a crazy year. I owned six of those (if you count the Hot Spot repaint of Titanium OP). I think I agree on the top spot, that was just such an amazing figure. I think I'd add Blackout to the bottom of the list. While it was somewhat messy, that look was just so unique, definitely the best new movie design. However, I've long since sold off all of them as I got tired of the movie look. I kind of regret selling that Soundwave, but I really didn't need him anymore after I got the Masterpiece.
My only problem with the original Bonecrusher was that he was very short compared to the other figures, and the first Ironhide sold out so I had to get the blue Offroad repaint. As I always say, Wreckage was a favourite too.
I liked the Darth Vader Death Star at the time, but I feel like they could have turned more of the shell into a cape. I also feel that they could have gotten away with a different color for the Death Star mode, even a light grey would have matched the Darth Vader mode better than white and off-white.
My top 10 list for 2007. Going to be nice to some movie toys now. 10. Predator Attack Team: I almost included the other Mini-con teams as well but I didn't have room for all of them and this was the most interesting since we had never gotten beast Mini-cons up until this point. 9. Arcee: The movie design I WISH we had gotten after seeing how much worse the ROTF design got. I probably would have put her higher if there wasn't also a BETTER Arcee design in the Bumblebee movie and Rise of the Beasts. 8. Barricade and Frenzy: If it wasn't for the ugly head design I would actually like Barricade as he comes the closest to looking like he can actually transform. 7. Longarm: As a sort of toy only character, his vehicle mode does actually appear in the movie but it's not an actual Autobot, the robot got to be completely made up by the toy line and looks better than any of the actual movie designs as a result of that freedom. I only put him this low because the design is a bit boring. 6. Jazz: How he appears in the movie I don't like at all but for some reason when rendered as a toy he looks so much better to me. I think it's because with the exception of front bumper/grill becomming his chest the rest of the vehicle mode just completely vanishes in the CGI model but obviously as a toy that has to actually be able to transform he actually has kibble which makes him look more like an actual Transformer. There's also versions of this painted in G1 colors that makes all the molded details really shine in ways that the original all grey robot just doesn't so that helps too. 5. Wreckage: The movie toy that I have said for years is what Megatron in the movie should have looked like. This guy looks more like Megatron than the actual Megatron does. He had the bucket helmet, he has the same color scheme, and you can mount the weapons on his arm like a fusion cannon. The actual Megatron toy, not on my list because not only is it an ugly design, it's also just a terrible figure that is a pain to transform. Wreckage is actually a good toy. 4. Classics Cliffjumper: I have this mold as Bumblebee, I don't understand calling it "Classics" when it's not but it is a decent homage. Though the jet ski jet pack will not actually clip in on my version, it just kind of loosely hangs there but will fall off if I turn the figure upside down. 3. Protoform Optimus Prime: I didn't include the leader because I didn't want to have 2 Optimus Primes on the same list and there are better versions of his original truck mode that would be released later on. The Protoform though is still a pretty fun toy and it's even better in the G1 colored repaint that would come out years later. 2. Masterpiece Starscream: I have this mold as Skywarp. I love this figure. It probably should be number 1 but my bias is about to show when I tell you what number 1 is... 1. War Within The Fallen: The only Titanium figure I will ever defend and put on a top 10 list. This toy is what first introduced me to the Fallen because I never read the Comics, I didn't know what War Within was. I loved the design though. I actually passed on this guy originally dude to not having any money at the time but I regretted not getting him so much I eventually went back and bought one off e-bay. Not only do I love the design of the character but this is the first time I ever KEPT THE BOX because I love the box art of this figure. I turned it into a display stand which you can actually see in several videos on my RUclips channel. I've use it as Dark Mite's throne room and a TARDIS interrior. This is really a personal bias thing here. I'd understand if it's not your number 1 but I've had a lot of fun with this figure and his freaking box. He is still displayed on the box to this day. I think this might even be my favorite figure in my entire collection I love the design that much. This is the reason it irritates me so much whenever modern versions of the character forget that he's suppose to be constantly on fire. I usually don't buy 3rd Party but I've seriously considered getting a Chaos Paladin for their take on this design. I will admit one flaw... the treads are on a double hinge and are suppose to be able to fold up onto his back in robot mode but those hinges are too loose, there's no tabs to actually secure those pannels in place, so they just kind of hang there making having those joints entirely pointless. They aren't even the diecast parts, actually this is one of the few Titanium figures where the die cast isn't weighing down on stress barring joints so it's actually a relatively safe figure compared to other Titanium releases. And now that I've gushed about how much I love this figure we can go back to pretending Titanium doesn't exist cause nothing else in that toy line is ever going to be worth talking about.
I loved that soundwave. But the pseudo headphone jack on his shoulder cannon snapped off, and became trapped in the hole, making the mp3 player aspect useless
I ended up with the "Hot Zone" repaint of Titanium Series RID Optimus Prime. (G1 Protectobot Hot Spot colors). Honestly, I was unaware of Titanium series altogether at the time, and I found him for cheap on Ebay. Not great, but not bad either.
If they did continue the cassette bots as alternators all the way to Soundwave as a car carrier, then they could double down on that investment by repainting Soundwave into Ultra Magnus
I am not, in general, a fan of the movie aesthetic, but the original movie toys were generally good -- some really nice designs and the designers hadn't quite gotten obsessed with complexity and panels yet. Ratchet is really nice. He's a nice, straightforward chunk. My only problem with him is that he doesn't have a gun. Wreckage is absolutely fantastic. He's a character/design we REALLY need to see again. He's also designed and proportioned mostly like a G1 or Unicron trilogy bot. I didn't care for Alternators on the whole, but that Ravage is one I actually do regret not getting, but budget at the time was stretched tight and didn't allow it. 2007 is a really nice Optimus. I know most people will say the Revenge of the Fallen one is better -- and it's certainly less kibbly, but the trade up in complexity doesn't make it worth it.
Wreckage benefits from not having to worry about the movie designs, as I'm not a fan of the movie designs. Bonecrusher's hands I'm not a fan of. The only other one I have from this list is Death Star Vader, thanks to a friend from ATT sending me a few figures after I got sick the next year (I didn't come across one or couldn't afford it). It was a pain at first but once I figured out how to transform it I do enjoy both modes. He works with Unicron and Cybertron, but I didn't know about the mini ships connecting to the Death Star mode. Mine also came with a gold painted version of the Micromachines TIE Fighter and Millenium Falcon, which sit on my computer desk. I think it was a store exclusive addition.
About soundwave from 4th place. Nope, it had mini-sd port, which is not common sd(for cameras and printers) or micro-sd(for phones). Also, my old nokia from 2007 could support up to 32 gb micro-sd, so I don't think soundwave was limited with 2 gb.
Nightwatch Movie Optimus is up there with Movie Cliffjumper in the category of redecos we absolutely need in Studio Series and why hasn’t Hasbro done these yet?
Im right there with you when it comes to 07 optimus. He is just a gorgeous toy. I know Im in the minority but Ive always been fond of 07 leader Megatron. Yeah he's very flawed buy I quite like him. Maybe its because he was a christmas gift from my sister maybe not.
My main problem with the original Bonecrusher was he was too small (a problem Blackout also shared, though he at least was a Voyager). In the movie he was around the same size as Prime so it always felt weird that he only got a Deluxe, until of course many years later with Studio Series (as well as MPM).
Whether you like bayverse or not, there’s no denying that the 07 movie was one of, if not the most important thing to ever happen to Transformers and made it as mainstream and popular as it is today
My biggest memory of Transformers in 2007 was just how excruciatingly difficult it was to get any toys of the characters that were in the movie. Besides characters that weren't in the movie or fodder in the video game (I saw Swindle and Payload in droves warming the pegs at the Targets and Toys R Us' at the time), there was no way I could get a piece of the characters I loved from the movie. My only figure from the movie was in the All-Spark repaints, and it was the Stealth Bumblebee repaint of his Concept Camaro figure. Let's just say there was a reason I stuck with Bionicle during this time.
You ever heard of the 2007 toy drought?
@@WilliamMoeller-rr2op No, I haven't. What was it?
@@HubPie3 pretty much the movie was SO popular that all the toys of characters in the movie were unattainable, so it wasn’t just for you
@@WilliamMoeller-rr2opI had no idea and now I’m more grateful for my mom and older brother. My brother worked at Canadian Tire and his close friend worked at Toys R Us.
When the movie dropped, both of them held the main cast of toys at both locations and my mom scooped them all up for me.
Damn. Just know that whoever reads this: I treated them well and played with them for all of those who didn’t have the chance 😔❤️
That little splash of purple on Ravage really pops!
TjOmega: The closest we got to vehicle to animal Transformers was Soundwaves cassettes
Me: SKYLYNX IS RIGHT THERE
Trypticon too, lol.
@@Trebleshot Eh, he didn't have a vehicle mode. He had a city mode
@@maximaldinotrap Technically he does: his mobile battle station mode. He's a triple-changer just like the other city bots.
@@Trebleshot I'm not sure if battle station counts as a vehicle
Voyager 2007 Wreckage is such a smart idea. I can’t believe I never even considered it before. Ig I’ve been too focused on getting a new 2007 Longarm toy. Anyway, would love to see both
@@Twin_Takoyaki vs pack?
@@samurexatlas7373 that would be cool!
07 Movie Prime is a great figure. ROTF Leader Prime gets a ton of love that people forget about this one. I feel it's one of the most overlooked Prime figures because people praised ROTF Prime so much it got a bad reputation. Sure, he has "chunk" but he completely makes it work.
I have the alternate version of that Optimus, with the spring loaded blade in place of the gun, and I absolutely love it too!!!
Yeah, that was the one that I had as a kid because I couldn’t find the original anywhere. I really loved that figure especially with the fun bunny ears nickname that he got.
This is THE YEAR
Popculture as a whole imo
I'm just going to say it- the HasTak designers did their absolute best with what they were given by the first Bay movie, and a lot of what they did holds up pretty darn well from an engineering standpoint.
The 07 Protoform Starscream and Optimus figures were amazing to me. They looked great and were fun to play with. They are always gonna be my favorites in that line.
I can't describe how much I wanted that Alternators Ravage. I stalked every Wal-Mart I could for weeks and none of them ever got it in stock. 17 years later and have still never even seen one in person.
I wasn't old enough to remember this toyline as a kid but it's amazing. I love the figures here. That Optimus Prime is probably one of my favorite looking Optimus Prime toys ever. I'm excited for 2011 because DOTM is a toyline i absolutely love and was actually getting at the time.
Edit: I had that Darth Vader transformer. I'd forgotten about it but right ss i saw it i was almost flooded with memories of loving that toy. So great.
2007: The year Transformers kicks off with a BANG.
In college, I found a comic panel someone online made of the Darth Vader Death Star. He had just destroyed a planet and turned around to find Galactus and Unicron angrily staring at him saying "You know, some of us were going to eat that!"
Yeah, the Leader class Optimus Prime is certainly one of the best, I still got him in my collection. But the ROTF is the superior all the way. I brought out the Wreckage figure when you were talking about it, he is pretty cool and easy enough to transform. Pretty epic year with that live action movie, I was mind blown when I first saw Prime transform and then talk to Sam with that iconic voice, what a moment!
That Ravage car was not the first time a vehicle had a beast mode instead of robot. Way back in 1986 we had a space shuttle with no robot mode but a beast mode in SkyLynx
The year transformers made a massive jump
I had the 07 Ratchet in Dark of the Moon Colors , unfortunately it broke overtime.
7:11 Loved the voyager Ratchet, fantastic and fun.
when did Dropkick come out? because that toy is INCREDIBLE, the best pickup truck HasTak have ever done BY FAR, the robot mode is wildly different from the truck and the transformation is a joy to do.
Darth Vader as a planetoid being like Unicron or Primus sounds perfect for such an iconic character
Fun fact: it was supposed to be the incomplete second Death Star, alongside an incomplete robot mode with a shattered eye.
Maybe this is just me but my favorite deluxe Soundwave is by far the WFC one it’s just so much fun and the engineering is so satisfying
In retrospect, though I was wowed by Transformers 2007, it's not a great movie (naturally). But the toys were surprisingly solid, for the most part. Wreckage is my favorite of this year. Absolutely a banger. I'm not the biggest fan of Ratchet's design but I do have to give the figure props, it's got a neat transformation. ROTF is where I bought the most of my movie toys though.
Appreciated as always. I have to say the movie designs really threw me for a loop, so I opted out. I'm trying to think if there were new Classics during 2007 or anything from Animated, but that might be 2008.
I'm glad you thought Ironhide was fun because he was honestly one of my least favorite toys from the 07 movie line. whenever I tried to do the automorph in the feet I would have to guide multiple parts at once to avoid stripping the gears, the chest would never stay up, and the clear plastic windshield very quickly wore out. Also, the instructions showed the cannon with the missiles being removed and placed on the front of the cannon with the plungers, but it was actually easier to fire them if you did the opposite; remove the cannon with the plungers and place it on the back of the cannon with the missiles so that you had more clearance for your fingers, which of course the kibble got in the way of and any attempt to launch them would cause the chest to fall.
This was a crazy year. I owned six of those (if you count the Hot Spot repaint of Titanium OP). I think I agree on the top spot, that was just such an amazing figure. I think I'd add Blackout to the bottom of the list. While it was somewhat messy, that look was just so unique, definitely the best new movie design. However, I've long since sold off all of them as I got tired of the movie look. I kind of regret selling that Soundwave, but I really didn't need him anymore after I got the Masterpiece.
My only problem with the original Bonecrusher was that he was very short compared to the other figures, and the first Ironhide sold out so I had to get the blue Offroad repaint. As I always say, Wreckage was a favourite too.
I own the Nightwatch repaint of the leader mold. Solid for what it is
20:35
'07 Prime didn't have Peter Cullen lines, he only had laser noises on robot mode and a honking noise in truck mode
Bonecrusher is nice. Wreckage is another nice looking figure.
I liked the Darth Vader Death Star at the time, but I feel like they could have turned more of the shell into a cape. I also feel that they could have gotten away with a different color for the Death Star mode, even a light grey would have matched the Darth Vader mode better than white and off-white.
Wreckage is my personal GOAT as far as 2007 is considered.
Great list. I’m curious as to why Classics Jetfire didn’t make the 06 or 07 list.
My top 10 list for 2007. Going to be nice to some movie toys now.
10. Predator Attack Team: I almost included the other Mini-con teams as well but I didn't have room for all of them and this was the most interesting since we had never gotten beast Mini-cons up until this point.
9. Arcee: The movie design I WISH we had gotten after seeing how much worse the ROTF design got. I probably would have put her higher if there wasn't also a BETTER Arcee design in the Bumblebee movie and Rise of the Beasts.
8. Barricade and Frenzy: If it wasn't for the ugly head design I would actually like Barricade as he comes the closest to looking like he can actually transform.
7. Longarm: As a sort of toy only character, his vehicle mode does actually appear in the movie but it's not an actual Autobot, the robot got to be completely made up by the toy line and looks better than any of the actual movie designs as a result of that freedom. I only put him this low because the design is a bit boring.
6. Jazz: How he appears in the movie I don't like at all but for some reason when rendered as a toy he looks so much better to me. I think it's because with the exception of front bumper/grill becomming his chest the rest of the vehicle mode just completely vanishes in the CGI model but obviously as a toy that has to actually be able to transform he actually has kibble which makes him look more like an actual Transformer. There's also versions of this painted in G1 colors that makes all the molded details really shine in ways that the original all grey robot just doesn't so that helps too.
5. Wreckage: The movie toy that I have said for years is what Megatron in the movie should have looked like. This guy looks more like Megatron than the actual Megatron does. He had the bucket helmet, he has the same color scheme, and you can mount the weapons on his arm like a fusion cannon. The actual Megatron toy, not on my list because not only is it an ugly design, it's also just a terrible figure that is a pain to transform. Wreckage is actually a good toy.
4. Classics Cliffjumper: I have this mold as Bumblebee, I don't understand calling it "Classics" when it's not but it is a decent homage. Though the jet ski jet pack will not actually clip in on my version, it just kind of loosely hangs there but will fall off if I turn the figure upside down.
3. Protoform Optimus Prime: I didn't include the leader because I didn't want to have 2 Optimus Primes on the same list and there are better versions of his original truck mode that would be released later on. The Protoform though is still a pretty fun toy and it's even better in the G1 colored repaint that would come out years later.
2. Masterpiece Starscream: I have this mold as Skywarp. I love this figure. It probably should be number 1 but my bias is about to show when I tell you what number 1 is...
1. War Within The Fallen: The only Titanium figure I will ever defend and put on a top 10 list. This toy is what first introduced me to the Fallen because I never read the Comics, I didn't know what War Within was. I loved the design though. I actually passed on this guy originally dude to not having any money at the time but I regretted not getting him so much I eventually went back and bought one off e-bay. Not only do I love the design of the character but this is the first time I ever KEPT THE BOX because I love the box art of this figure. I turned it into a display stand which you can actually see in several videos on my RUclips channel. I've use it as Dark Mite's throne room and a TARDIS interrior. This is really a personal bias thing here. I'd understand if it's not your number 1 but I've had a lot of fun with this figure and his freaking box. He is still displayed on the box to this day. I think this might even be my favorite figure in my entire collection I love the design that much. This is the reason it irritates me so much whenever modern versions of the character forget that he's suppose to be constantly on fire. I usually don't buy 3rd Party but I've seriously considered getting a Chaos Paladin for their take on this design.
I will admit one flaw... the treads are on a double hinge and are suppose to be able to fold up onto his back in robot mode but those hinges are too loose, there's no tabs to actually secure those pannels in place, so they just kind of hang there making having those joints entirely pointless. They aren't even the diecast parts, actually this is one of the few Titanium figures where the die cast isn't weighing down on stress barring joints so it's actually a relatively safe figure compared to other Titanium releases. And now that I've gushed about how much I love this figure we can go back to pretending Titanium doesn't exist cause nothing else in that toy line is ever going to be worth talking about.
I loved that soundwave. But the pseudo headphone jack on his shoulder cannon snapped off, and became trapped in the hole, making the mp3 player aspect useless
I ended up with the "Hot Zone" repaint of Titanium Series RID Optimus Prime. (G1 Protectobot Hot Spot colors). Honestly, I was unaware of Titanium series altogether at the time, and I found him for cheap on Ebay. Not great, but not bad either.
If they did continue the cassette bots as alternators all the way to Soundwave as a car carrier, then they could double down on that investment by repainting Soundwave into Ultra Magnus
I am not, in general, a fan of the movie aesthetic, but the original movie toys were generally good -- some really nice designs and the designers hadn't quite gotten obsessed with complexity and panels yet.
Ratchet is really nice. He's a nice, straightforward chunk. My only problem with him is that he doesn't have a gun.
Wreckage is absolutely fantastic. He's a character/design we REALLY need to see again. He's also designed and proportioned mostly like a G1 or Unicron trilogy bot.
I didn't care for Alternators on the whole, but that Ravage is one I actually do regret not getting, but budget at the time was stretched tight and didn't allow it.
2007 is a really nice Optimus. I know most people will say the Revenge of the Fallen one is better -- and it's certainly less kibbly, but the trade up in complexity doesn't make it worth it.
How Many animated figures do you think are gonna be on next year’s list. I’m calling voyager animated Optimus
Wreckage benefits from not having to worry about the movie designs, as I'm not a fan of the movie designs. Bonecrusher's hands I'm not a fan of.
The only other one I have from this list is Death Star Vader, thanks to a friend from ATT sending me a few figures after I got sick the next year (I didn't come across one or couldn't afford it). It was a pain at first but once I figured out how to transform it I do enjoy both modes. He works with Unicron and Cybertron, but I didn't know about the mini ships connecting to the Death Star mode. Mine also came with a gold painted version of the Micromachines TIE Fighter and Millenium Falcon, which sit on my computer desk. I think it was a store exclusive addition.
About soundwave from 4th place. Nope, it had mini-sd port, which is not common sd(for cameras and printers) or micro-sd(for phones). Also, my old nokia from 2007 could support up to 32 gb micro-sd, so I don't think soundwave was limited with 2 gb.
2009 needs a top 15 or 20
Nightwatch Movie Optimus is up there with Movie Cliffjumper in the category of redecos we absolutely need in Studio Series and why hasn’t Hasbro done these yet?
19:25 There was an Optimus toy at 10th place
I still to this day want to get a copy of incinerator but it is expensive
I like the ARC 170 transformer
Im right there with you when it comes to 07 optimus. He is just a gorgeous toy. I know Im in the minority but Ive always been fond of 07 leader Megatron. Yeah he's very flawed buy I quite like him. Maybe its because he was a christmas gift from my sister maybe not.
ooo been waiting for this one
Did they reuse Cybertron Vector Prime's chest for Darth Vader?
Jagwire?
My main problem with the original Bonecrusher was he was too small (a problem Blackout also shared, though he at least was a Voyager).
In the movie he was around the same size as Prime so it always felt weird that he only got a Deluxe, until of course many years later with Studio Series (as well as MPM).