Why did the world let India annex Goa? (Short Animated Documentary)

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • In 1961 the Indian army marched into Portuguese Goa and after two days of fighting formally annexed it into the country. Given that the world largely believed that conquering foreign lands hadn't been cool since the end of the WW2 why was it allowed to stand? Why did the world let India annex Goa? To find out why watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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Комментарии • 12 тыс.

  • @Nv-yi1jh
    @Nv-yi1jh Год назад +22739

    I can't believe Portugal didn't leave when they were told to Goa way

    • @madshagen5849
      @madshagen5849 Год назад +953

      I saw what you did there...

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Год назад +277

      @@madshagen5849
      Groan.

    • @aldrintoscano
      @aldrintoscano Год назад +270

      Well, they were there since 1509.
      The Republic of India wasn't in existence until 1950

    • @user-ur5yg3cx8t
      @user-ur5yg3cx8t Год назад +607

      @@aldrintoscano still they take it and Portuguese can't do anything till this day other than crying

    • @willevensen7130
      @willevensen7130 Год назад +590

      @@aldrintoscano sure but I think we all know who has a better claim to the territory. The overseas empire? Or the actual country which had its territory stolen?

  • @lordbonney9779
    @lordbonney9779 Год назад +10084

    Goa: gets invaded
    Portugal: “Help”
    UK: “I already knew this would happen. I’m just that experienced.”

    • @eliteevildarkness5830
      @eliteevildarkness5830 Год назад +568

      You don't say invaded you say taken back

    • @ronanwaring3408
      @ronanwaring3408 Год назад +79

      To be honest due to the reaction if India had let the UK preside they probably would have gotten Goa anyway

    • @alexandrearaujo2877
      @alexandrearaujo2877 Год назад +277

      @@eliteevildarkness5830 It was still technically an invasion, regardless of whether or not you believe that India had the right to own Goa.

    • @idkatthispoint-s9s
      @idkatthispoint-s9s Год назад +477

      @@alexandrearaujo2877 Invasion is taking over someone else's native territory. The Portuguese have never been native to the Indian subcontinent. It's the simple words that twist people's beliefs, India just took back what was rightfully hers. By your logic even India's freedom struggle would be invading British territory.

    • @TheOmegaXicor
      @TheOmegaXicor Год назад +72

      @@idkatthispoint-s9s no, the disagreement is where India kicks out the invading Portuguese by invading itself, the territory belongs to Goa not India

  • @user-kt5it6ty9r
    @user-kt5it6ty9r Год назад +14650

    As an Indian, thank you for making a video on this, also one thing you forgot about is that Portugal did send their Navy to respond but Egypt blocked the Suez canal for them because India had supported Egypt in the 1956 Suez crisis

    • @vivekanand3189
      @vivekanand3189 Год назад +1473

      As an Indian you should be reporting this video because they are not using an accurate map of India Don't you see ?

    • @jesseinfinite
      @jesseinfinite Год назад

      You're an Indian with a Russian name and a communist flag? Sounds really Indian to me

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Год назад +727

      @@vivekanand3189
      .
      .
      .
      No as Indian
      I am happy that he is showing LoC & LAC

    • @vivekanand3189
      @vivekanand3189 Год назад +280

      @@jirachi-wishmaker9242 showing or giving away there's a difference bro he gave it away and that's not right

    • @deiansalazar140
      @deiansalazar140 Год назад +616

      @@vivekanand3189 It's prior to the annexation of the lands you're discussing so not inaccurate in fact it's great attention to historical detail.

  • @TonyStark-vx9qz
    @TonyStark-vx9qz 10 месяцев назад +1026

    It is astonishing how many European Colonisers were aiming for India couple of centuries ago just because of the enormous wealth India had.

    • @th3oryO
      @th3oryO 10 месяцев назад +41

      Astonishing? Nah. The location as a sea link between europe, africa and china as well as (people) resources made it an obvious target. Add in pre-existing divisions and it was inevitable that someone was going to make an attempt. It had happened before, much of modern India itself had been colonised by Muslim rulers previously.

    • @TonyStark-vx9qz
      @TonyStark-vx9qz 10 месяцев назад +137

      @@th3oryO bro learned history from WhatsApp

    • @knightsnight5929
      @knightsnight5929 10 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@TonyStark-vx9qzJust remind us who built most of the best monuments in India, including the Taj Mahal..... The truth hurts.

    • @TonyStark-vx9qz
      @TonyStark-vx9qz 10 месяцев назад +117

      @@knightsnight5929 lol, which monuments are you talking about? Ever heard of ancient Indian temples?

    • @SomeshNayak-lr8ef
      @SomeshNayak-lr8ef 9 месяцев назад

      Ancient India temples were much better than Taj Mahal
      Mughals were barbaric rulers
      They came from poor nations
      They killed many Hindus and destroyed many temples
      ​@@knightsnight5929

  • @HDtothe8
    @HDtothe8 Год назад +4817

    As a Goan, India invading us has been the best thing for us in more than 400 years. I would implore anyone reading this comment to read 'The Goa Inquisition'
    Book by Anant Priolkar. The horrific things the Portuguese did to my people in the name of Catholicism will never be forgotten nor forgiven.

    • @sanketmarkad6924
      @sanketmarkad6924 Год назад +1103

      India not invaded but reclaimed back

    • @Pihu523
      @Pihu523 Год назад +357

      @@sanketmarkad6924 their dictionary is different.

    • @vinniche
      @vinniche Год назад +643

      It always was part of India. The culture of Goa was always clearly Indian. Invasions first began by Muslims and then Christians. Don't talk as if Goa was an independent country.

    • @parikshitneb6154
      @parikshitneb6154 Год назад +297

      India claimed back it's land not invaded Goa please take the reference through the maratha empire

    • @HDtothe8
      @HDtothe8 Год назад +282

      Don't sweat it guys. I meant "invading" not invading literally. Please read it as such. Cheers.

  • @heisenstein6392
    @heisenstein6392 Год назад +3444

    "In a twist that would shock exactly ZERO people, the Indian government wasn't willing to be lectured by their former colonial masters..." Bahaha, you're simply the best history narrator!

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад +2

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it...they let it happen.

    • @FactStorm
      @FactStorm Год назад +32

      So true lol

    • @TheBf666
      @TheBf666 Год назад

      But india can lecture sri lanka on what they should do with their ports? Hush clown.

    • @theemirofjaffa2266
      @theemirofjaffa2266 Год назад +8

      I was actually shocked, so I guess I'm the only one for that matter.

    • @gadoofy5850
      @gadoofy5850 11 месяцев назад

      UK: "Hey India can you not invade Goa?"
      India: "Shut the fuck up"

  • @boombler4320
    @boombler4320 Год назад +4468

    this channel made me so paranoid about Napoleon appearing in historical events that have nothing to do with him that I half expected him to somehow show up in this episode

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn Год назад +750

      Portugal didn't have the military resources to keep Goa because its empire had started collapsing ever since Brazil went independent in the 1820s, which happened right after the Portuguese Royal Family fled to Brazil in order to escape... that's right, Napoleon!
      There you go!

    • @talha7309
      @talha7309 Год назад +135

      @oenr Thanks for fueling our paranoia, mate!

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Год назад +152

      Napoleon actually commanded The Indian Army at the time.

    • @boombler4320
      @boombler4320 Год назад +66

      @@oenrn I am going to paint the ceiling using shotgun

    • @Jerry-tg7zx
      @Jerry-tg7zx Год назад +19

      Ah, americans

  • @dayanand570
    @dayanand570 5 месяцев назад +577

    Goa was never leased or sold to Portuguese but it invaded Goa state through force.Sameway India took it back by force.

    • @rdsc.455
      @rdsc.455 4 месяца назад +11

      India was also like today's Europe and the EU , constituted of many different independently ruled states always fighting against each other. It was during the period of Ashok, Akbar, Aurangzeb and finally Britishers this separate and vast Southern Asian geographical region turned into one and administrated by a single ruler with capital cities as Patna, Delhi, Agra, Calcutta and then finally at Delhi.

    • @IndibarDutta
      @IndibarDutta Месяц назад +13

      ​@@rdsc.455So the historical timeline u have given - is basically u wanted to mention that India was , is & will always be a United State!! We don't fight with each other, it's a family matter, but when we need to bash any other country we are extremely together - do you wanna see??

    • @brevitygreaves2321
      @brevitygreaves2321 Месяц назад +8

      India took it "back"?? The Portuguese territory of Goa existed for hundreds of years before the British Raj territory known today as "Republic of India" was formed by the British Parliament. RoIndia learnt from China in 1950 when the Chinese took Tibet by force, and learnt again in 1962 when the RoI lost a major part of Ladakh to the Chinese. And learnt again in 2020...abhi thali aur tali bajao.

    • @JEEVANMARATHE
      @JEEVANMARATHE 26 дней назад +20

      @@brevitygreaves2321goan people majorly speak indian language and they majorly wanted to join india. Portugese wasn't having democratic rule in Goa so just shut up. If you want non democratic place then find one. Don't teach other.

    • @anengineer152
      @anengineer152 25 дней назад +1

      ​@@brevitygreaves2321ye last me what did you write Hindi😅😅

  • @battleofkursk50
    @battleofkursk50 Год назад +2191

    “Operation: Cry for Help” went down in military history as one of the most brilliant strategic plans ever.

    • @dimk735
      @dimk735 Год назад +14

      @@MimOzanTamamogullar or the turks for even better results.

    • @ronmka8931
      @ronmka8931 Год назад +207

      Ukraine is doing that with plenty of success

    • @thesummergamer7245
      @thesummergamer7245 Год назад +8

      @@dimk735 bro deleted his comment 💀

    • @danzoom
      @danzoom Год назад +46

      @@ronmka8931 tbf tbe first time it didn't go well for them in 2014. Everybody just kinda forgot.

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 Год назад +8

      @@ronmka8931 Question is for how long and to what extent though. There's already division among Ukraine's partners about letting Russia have Crimea or not, among other stuff. South Korea in 1950 would be a much better example, since the world apart from the Communists overwhelmingly condemned North Korea's invasion and the UN authorized a large intervention force led by the United States.

  • @abps9947
    @abps9947 Год назад +862

    Egypt also played a major role by blocking Suez canal for Portugal naval forces

    • @whitewhite4462
      @whitewhite4462 Год назад +67

      Prasant dhawann???

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it...they let it happen.

    • @pranjalpandey2167
      @pranjalpandey2167 Год назад +27

      @@whitewhite4462 I was looking for this comment "

    • @dibyaraj108
      @dibyaraj108 Год назад +35

      I didn't knew that, the present day growing relations with egypt comes more naturally then.

    • @iteltab8822
      @iteltab8822 Год назад +19

      Also don't forget that indian navy Aircraft carrier was waiting over Goa cost!

  • @YourVintageStick
    @YourVintageStick Год назад +3728

    “They’d be happy to do that after the heat death of the universe” I love this channels humor

  • @legendnaveendelu7209
    @legendnaveendelu7209 4 месяца назад +670

    Because Goa was rightfully ours.

    • @zanchiso1934
      @zanchiso1934 4 месяца назад +10

      Finally could argue with Indian claiming something to them

    • @user-vb6qf7sg3h
      @user-vb6qf7sg3h 4 месяца назад +23

      If Goa belong to Mainland India then Taiwan belongs to Mainland China too.
      Just earn 1000 Social Credit. Lol 😂

    • @Surfer-vi1pm
      @Surfer-vi1pm 3 месяца назад +121

      ​@@user-vb6qf7sg3h
      Not even the same comparable scenario. Goa is important hindu land forcefully taken and converted
      Portuguese have no business in goa

    • @legendnaveendelu7209
      @legendnaveendelu7209 3 месяца назад

      Umm you're not Indian are you? ​@@user-vb6qf7sg3h

    • @user-vb6qf7sg3h
      @user-vb6qf7sg3h 2 месяца назад

      @@Surfer-vi1pm USA had no business in Taiwan either just like Portuguese had bo business in Goa. The USA itself identify Taiwan as a part of china . I'm not saying that i support the Communist Party but just to be fair both USA and Portugal and UK are Colonialist , invader and robbers.

  • @maiholiaw4927
    @maiholiaw4927 Год назад +1922

    Trivia: The Portuguese Prime Minister then, Antonio Salazar, was so upset with his country's surrender that the offered a reward of US$10,000 for the capture of an Indian Brigade commander, Brigadier (Later Lt. General) Sagat Singh, who led the Airborne forces. His photo was posted everywhere in Lisbon, but nobody seemed to care.

    • @surajpanditexe
      @surajpanditexe Год назад +150

      He was member of parachute regiment and he landed first troops in panji (goa capital)

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад +2

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it...they let it happen.

    • @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr
      @DurgeshYadav-ip1zr Год назад +181

      Sagat also mogged the Chinese during the 1967 Battle.

    • @bhavinvasavada4562
      @bhavinvasavada4562 Год назад +203

      Interesting....is this the same Sagat Singh who led the airborne heli drop operations in the 1971 Bangladesh liberation war?

    • @maiholiaw4927
      @maiholiaw4927 Год назад +188

      @@bhavinvasavada4562 The one and only.

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 Год назад +4122

    It's a rare episode that ends like this with "and then everybody got over it and went on with their lives."
    Edit: LOKI'S DARTS, I'VE NEVER GOTTEN THIS MANY LIKES BEFORE

    • @Snix121
      @Snix121 Год назад +144

      *for now, don't discount the second portugese empire just yet

    • @NamanSachdeva12
      @NamanSachdeva12 Год назад +4

      Cute

    • @everettatwater2939
      @everettatwater2939 Год назад +30

      @@Snix121 soon the new demographics of Portugal will be Indian.

    • @feuerwerkisttoll2935
      @feuerwerkisttoll2935 Год назад +10

      You mean like the video why did the world let russia annex ukraine well see in 10-15 years here

    • @E5rael
      @E5rael Год назад +10

      With statements such as these, I always expect him to follow up with the phrase "Fun fact, NO".

  • @AmodShindeDev
    @AmodShindeDev Год назад +3586

    I am from Goa. Goa was a colonized territory and was under the oppression of the Portuguese. There were several revolts within Goa which were later supported by people from all over India. Goa had been part of the Indian subcontinent and hence Indian govt liberated Goa. Later the Portuguese sent Army back to Goa to recapture it, but our good friend Egypt closed the Suez canal and blocked their entry into the eastern oceans

    • @abygorsonabor7982
      @abygorsonabor7982 Год назад +94

      Hope Goa will be liberated again from Indianization and be it's own state!

    • @AmodShindeDev
      @AmodShindeDev Год назад +835

      @@abygorsonabor7982 it's Called liberation when local people are opressed. We aren't opressed under india. India is ours and today Portuguese army won't be able to stand Indian army for even more than 1 day 😂😂

    • @abygorsonabor7982
      @abygorsonabor7982 Год назад +61

      @@AmodShindeDev yeah, yeah, go Indianize somehwere else

    • @AmodShindeDev
      @AmodShindeDev Год назад +499

      @@abygorsonabor7982 yeha sure, but we don't opress people even if we indianize, your UK is already indianized indirectly 😂😂😂

    • @kyara1835
      @kyara1835 Год назад +394

      ​@@abygorsonabor7982 u can keep hoping but we goans are indians.

  • @enriqueheredia5794
    @enriqueheredia5794 6 месяцев назад +385

    As a Goan I am glad you covered this historical topic.

    • @samsmith2635
      @samsmith2635 6 месяцев назад +4

      How do you feel about being Robbed of EU benefits? Since Goa was considered an equal province to any of that back in Portugal?

    • @crichighlights2531
      @crichighlights2531 5 месяцев назад +58

      ​@@samsmith2635 why Did Britain left EU then??
      Secondly You don't have to be in EU to grow your economy.
      Look at china, South Korea,

    • @D402S
      @D402S 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@samsmith2635Portugal doesn't have any future. It's a stagnant economy. The Indian economy on the other hand is growing well under the leadership of BJP. Western media is too busy watching slumdog millionaire.

    • @dawn_alex
      @dawn_alex 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@samsmith2635 You keep ur shit EU rights for yourself. Noone wants it here bro.

    • @amanrawat9741
      @amanrawat9741 3 месяца назад +5

      @@crichighlights2531 Look at india too

  • @Guns_Blazin
    @Guns_Blazin Год назад +1008

    Portugal to NATO: “They just invaded our territory. Time to trigger Article 5 right?”
    NATO: (*read)

    • @Iamalemonwhy
      @Iamalemonwhy Год назад +70

      What could NATO do lets be real it was India and Soviet Union was friends with India

    • @nikhilshetty007
      @nikhilshetty007 Год назад +93

      @@cuddlestsq2730 Read the article 5 again

    • @braziliantsar
      @braziliantsar Год назад +62

      @@cuddlestsq2730 In the end, NATO works with it's smaller members like CSTO works with Armenia

    • @okayy6780
      @okayy6780 Год назад +175

      @@cuddlestsq2730 As a matter of fact, UK and France did send their warships to India, but Egypt blocked them from entering the Suez Canal as Egypt was a friend of India in the NAM.

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 Год назад +32

      @@okayy6780Why not just go around South Africa then? Sure it's a longer route, but I doubt blocking the suez canal would’ve really stopped their navies from traveling anywhere.

  • @joshuazelinsky5213
    @joshuazelinsky5213 Год назад +4730

    Worth noting that the response to the invasion of Goa is one of the things that leads to the Falkkands war, because the Argentinian government sees this as evidence that governments would not intervene in situations like this. Of course, the situations were very different. Britain had a large, navy, Argentina was a much weaker country than India, and it was clear to everyone from the start that the population wanted to be British, but Argentina did not realize how serious these differences were until it was too late.

    • @Iamalemonwhy
      @Iamalemonwhy Год назад +178

      But now Argentina can try

    • @Progamermove_2003
      @Progamermove_2003 Год назад +1014

      While all of them are valid points, the last point is the most important one. People in Goa wanted to join India, while people in Falkland wanted to stay British.

    • @South_Asian.Fascist-98
      @South_Asian.Fascist-98 Год назад +153

      @@Iamalemonwhy BRUH 💀

    • @εγεω
      @εγεω Год назад +100

      @@Progamermove_2003 It reminds me a lot of the 2014 Crimea situation and referendum.

    • @Progamermove_2003
      @Progamermove_2003 Год назад +471

      @@εγεω You're very clearly applying false analogy. Unlike Ukraine, Portugal was NOT a democracy back then, and not to forget the *brutal* colonial past where thousands of Goans had died in the inquisition among other things. False analogy doesn't work.

  • @Dendarang
    @Dendarang Год назад +969

    The reason why NATO didn't respond, btw, isn't just that no one cared, the members are obliged to defend each other to the death regardless of how much they care or not. It was because NATO only applies to member's territories in Europe and North Atlantic and *nowhere else*, so attacking French posessions in the Pacfic, for example, wouldn't trigger NATO Article 5 even today. The one exception to that was French Algeria which was specifically covered by NATO as NATO was drawn up when Algeria was part of France but that's all null and void now since Algerian independence.

    • @delfinenteddyson9865
      @delfinenteddyson9865 Год назад +43

      I wouldn't sat to the death tho: "[...] such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area"
      good point otherwise

    • @ElanElanElan
      @ElanElanElan Год назад +62

      So if French Guyana was attacked today, Nato wouldn't respond?

    • @aeroblitzt9561
      @aeroblitzt9561 Год назад +57

      I read somewhere that the territories need to be above the Ecuatorial Line for the treaty to take effect. For example in 1982 when the Argentines invaded the Falklands which were a core British territory the treaty couldn't take effect since it happened below the Ecuator, but when 9/11 happened the treaty took effect cuz NYC is above the Ecautor.
      Another little tidbit is that if Hawaii is struck by a foreign attack NATO Article 5 doesn't take effect cuz when the alliance was formed in 1949 Hawaii was a U.S. territory and below the Ecuator.
      EDIT:It appears I have made a mistake. For a country or territory of a member country to be under coverage of NATO article 5 they must be located in Europe and North America and above the Tropic of Cancer.

    • @drakron
      @drakron Год назад +69

      Nay, NATO sit that out because ...
      NATO was entirely anti-Soviet no matter what its written on the paper.
      India was a non-aligned nation, that was game they played so neither block wanted to throw then into the other arms (as Pakistan found out ).
      Decolonization was still never much in the agenda and it would been very unpopular to aid Portugal to keep a overseas territory that as far people saw it was India (funny enough the current PM of Portugal grandfather is Goan).
      If India was under the Soviet sphere you can bet NATO response would be different but at it stood what it seem politically as India reclaiming their lands from a colonial power and Portugal being under the Estado Novo dictatorship didnt exactly help, that why the Colonial War was a bit different as NATO looked the other way because of Soviet backed independent movements even if there were western backed.

    • @Iamalemonwhy
      @Iamalemonwhy Год назад +9

      @@ElanElanElan No.... lets annex french guyana into guyana

  • @RollOnToVictory
    @RollOnToVictory 10 месяцев назад +108

    Goa is one of the reasons Argentina was sure the international community would force the UK to the negotiation table over the Falklands.

    • @_tsu_
      @_tsu_ 2 месяца назад +5

      But i don't think it's the same thing. Argentina is also a settler colony, just like the Falklands. Just because they choose to be nominally part of the UK doesn't change much.

    • @diegorodrigovelasquezmeniz8026
      @diegorodrigovelasquezmeniz8026 16 дней назад

      ​@@_tsu_las Malvinas son Argentinas. Ingleses piratas vayan a sus tierras que sus mujeres están siendo conquistadas por moros, subsaharianos e hindúes.

  • @moblinmajorgeneral
    @moblinmajorgeneral Год назад +711

    Britain, wiping a tear from its eye: "Finally, he understands!"

    • @felicitys3621
      @felicitys3621 Год назад +102

      They grow up so fast… his first invasion…

    • @dominicguye8058
      @dominicguye8058 Год назад +32

      @@felicitys3621 'They grow up so fast'? 'First invasion'? You may want to brush up on your history of European colonialism. . .

    • @ls200076
      @ls200076 Год назад

      @@dominicguye8058 you deserve to get smacked by a handsome body builder

    • @noistivmuestiliv3300
      @noistivmuestiliv3300 Год назад +9

      @@felicitys3621 Lol! I laughed irl

    • @karandullet380
      @karandullet380 Год назад +1

      @@felicitys3621 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @pescavelho6151
    @pescavelho6151 Год назад +2872

    My mom's former father-in-law was deployed to Goa, he ended up spending some half-a-year in an Indian prison. He made it out of there pretty unscathed, and even brought some curry recipes back to Portugal, so no hard feelings.
    Also interesting to note that Brazil heavily condemned India's actions in an act of "Lusophone solidarity", but then proceeded to back the rebels in Portugal's African colonies under the same logic.
    Edit: People seem to think that I am Portugal's spokesperson for some reason. When I say "no hard feelings" I am speaking about how my family doesn't have any resentment towards India due to his imprisonment, I am not implying the Portuguese nation was "wronged" by India or something.

    • @utkarshchoudhary3870
      @utkarshchoudhary3870 Год назад +70

      ah yes, Brazil when Portugal

    • @adamesd3699
      @adamesd3699 Год назад +281

      @@salciano What are you talking about “sole survivors”? This was one of the least bloody invasions in history.

    • @UnwiseWords
      @UnwiseWords Год назад +94

      @@adamesd3699 Least Bloody doesn't mean completly bloodless, it lasted for 2 days after all

    • @JohnSmith-sl2qc
      @JohnSmith-sl2qc Год назад +185

      @@UnwiseWords only 30 Portuguese soldiers actually died

    • @kingofcards9516
      @kingofcards9516 Год назад +92

      @@JohnSmith-sl2qc quite dismissive of human life there.

  • @shan4680
    @shan4680 Год назад +190

    India to Portugal: "Goa way."

    • @sahilsingh6048
      @sahilsingh6048 Год назад +11

      This was nice

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women for centuries just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it...they let it happen.

  • @vetiarvind
    @vetiarvind 9 месяцев назад +242

    Portugal: UK my old brother, come help me!
    UK: well young brother, we packed up and left in 1947 for a reason before we were forcibly kicked out, you should have taken some notes.

    • @ivanmacgar6447
      @ivanmacgar6447 2 месяца назад +7

      Ironically enough Portugal is older than the UK.

    • @esequieltrindade9244
      @esequieltrindade9244 2 месяца назад +2

      Portugal did not started a famine and made a harsh caste system, a lot of goans would flee from goa and into Portugal, and even get their nationality as a portuguese citizen
      It's a myth that the majority wanted a integration with india, yes, a part of the native society had wanted to join india but they never said that they could not just go to india and have a indian citizenship

    • @mione12gft71
      @mione12gft71 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@esequieltrindade9244if the famine you are talking about is the one that happened in world war 2, then the Brits didn't make that one. They in fact helped them. There's Churchill's documents asking for US's help even to counter the famine

    • @esequieltrindade9244
      @esequieltrindade9244 2 месяца назад +4

      @@mione12gft71 they did not burned the crops and killed cattle/farmers, yes, but they indirectly made it happen by negligence and the use of indian resources to the war, yes, the war was important, but stalling the germans in the desert is really worth countless of lives? No. The british asked for all their allies for food, even the colonies, yes, but by the time they solved the issue, the damage had been done

    • @mione12gft71
      @mione12gft71 2 месяца назад

      @@esequieltrindade9244 indirectly making something happen and then cutting the war budget (yes, they did that) to send more aid is nowhere as bad as directly working towards a goal whose aim is to genocide Indians

  • @mehularora3234
    @mehularora3234 Год назад +1303

    You forgot to mention one thing, During this liberation of Goa Portuguese did sent their Navy but our Egyptian friends blocked them at Suez Canal. Kudos Egyptian boys!

    • @aniket385
      @aniket385 Год назад +6

      Suez Canal is open during Times of War as it is open in times of peace .

    • @mehularora3234
      @mehularora3234 Год назад +111

      @@aniket385 check it thoroughly what I said.

    • @godoflight558
      @godoflight558 Год назад +175

      Yeah egypt did it to return the favour when india helped them during the 50s suez crisis

    • @FactStorm
      @FactStorm Год назад +25

      Nice piece of history, thanks for sharing I genuinely didn't know that specific bit.

    • @ranjittyagi9354
      @ranjittyagi9354 Год назад +27

      Very good. Must remember Egyptians. ❤️

  • @JadesFitnessBucketList
    @JadesFitnessBucketList 11 месяцев назад +605

    My Dad is one of the last generations of indians to be born and brought up in Goa and speak portuguese as his first language. Born in 1951, number 3 of 11 children. The children born before 1961 (including my dad) were never given an indian passport, but the siblings born after did. Ive been back to Goa to see my family many times and always have fond memories

    • @hardtrailrider
      @hardtrailrider 11 месяцев назад +85

      "The children born before 1961 (including my dad) were never given an indian passport," I guess this is only becuase they were holding Portugese passports. As per Indian law, you cannot have dual citizenship. So people refused to surrender Portugese citizenship were denied Indian passports. Thats all.

    • @JadesFitnessBucketList
      @JadesFitnessBucketList 11 месяцев назад +51

      @@hardtrailrider no they didn’t have any passports. At 18 my dad was forced to the Portuguese army because Salazar said anyone who fought would be given Portuguese nationality. That’s how he managed to leave.

    • @hardtrailrider
      @hardtrailrider 11 месяцев назад +24

      @@JadesFitnessBucketListI wonder on what reason he was denied Indian passport.

    • @mahatmagandhi2434
      @mahatmagandhi2434 11 месяцев назад

      Old hag

    • @sanatan_dip
      @sanatan_dip 11 месяцев назад +24

      ​@@hardtrailriderwell they were not given indian passport because they were allowed to have Portugal passport. As many people leaving india today from goa are those people.

  • @amitabhabhattacharya4051
    @amitabhabhattacharya4051 11 месяцев назад +1329

    My father was part of the Indian forces that entered Goa to liberate it. He was in the Indian Air Force. He had just joined 3 years earlier in 1958.

    • @sayeedalsifat1308
      @sayeedalsifat1308 11 месяцев назад +46

      Imagine your dad brought 'Merican "liberty" to Goa 💀

    • @AoptimisticNihilist
      @AoptimisticNihilist 10 месяцев назад +83

      My grandfather( a freedom fighter, I'm a Goan) told me it was the most casual peaceful war. As soon as the British army saw the sheer strength(no of personals) of Indian army they dumped their arms and surrendered and left.

    • @amitabhabhattacharya4051
      @amitabhabhattacharya4051 10 месяцев назад

      Yes. Matches with what my father said. It was more of a stroll in the park with the Indian military encountering little resistance. But a year later came the horrific Chinese aggression. @@AoptimisticNihilist

    • @jayK914
      @jayK914 10 месяцев назад +23

      My Grandfather was also there for Goa liberation. Who knows, Maybe they both were together and were also even friends

    • @amitabhabhattacharya4051
      @amitabhabhattacharya4051 10 месяцев назад

      It was a small military then. Highly possible. He was 24.@@jayK914

  • @swapnil988
    @swapnil988 10 месяцев назад +45

    You didn't mention one very important part. There was a resolution in UNSC against Indias military action and the majority voted in favour of the resolution but thanks to Russia that they vetore it and we finally become part of india.

    • @PeruvianPotato
      @PeruvianPotato 10 месяцев назад +4

      Just kinda proves how useless the UN is in retrospect

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims Месяц назад +1

      That resolution wouldn’t have changed anything

    • @narutoshipuden2440
      @narutoshipuden2440 21 день назад

      Well it was proven again that USA is not an ally, as they are always the first to backstab if you have less value than others

  • @yeeet1910
    @yeeet1910 Год назад +630

    All of this could've been prevented if Portugal had asked James Bissionette for help instead

    • @raestera
      @raestera Год назад +25

      Was looking for this comment not disappointed

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Год назад +11

      The Mugwopper would have provided a fleet too ~_^

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz Год назад +17

      And Spinning 3 Plates would have most certainly joined in

    • @haplon33
      @haplon33 Год назад +24

      this never would have happened back when boogleywoogley was running things

    • @AlphaSections
      @AlphaSections Год назад +14

      @@haplon33 God bless boogleywoogley, he knew how to save us from a bad crisis.

  • @AchyutChaudhary
    @AchyutChaudhary Год назад +303

    0:13 just one error here - the state of Sikkim between 🇳🇵Nepal & 🇧🇹Bhutan (that you’ve made a video about as well) didn’t fully join 🇮🇳India until 1975 - over a decade later.

  • @ANIGALYE
    @ANIGALYE Год назад +573

    To Foreign European invaders it was only a colony but for India it were their own people & for Goans India was their country. Every 19 December is called as Liberation day in our state and celebrated by all people as remembrance of unification with homeland.

    • @luisfilipe2023
      @luisfilipe2023 Год назад

      The only invaders were the Indians they were the ones who were foreign. Don’t forget that India wasn’t a country before 1947 so they had no historical claim there or anywhere really. India is an artificial country

    • @tiagogomes3807
      @tiagogomes3807 Год назад

      Brainwashing works incredibly well.
      Goanese were healthier and had more rights in the 50s than today.
      And obviously didn't want to join India.

    • @gold3084
      @gold3084 Год назад +6

      Goa Indians different religion and culture to rest of India ?

    • @ANIGALYE
      @ANIGALYE Год назад +97

      @@gold3084 goan people have same culture as India & its similar to that of Maharashtra

    • @ANIGALYE
      @ANIGALYE Год назад +56

      @@tiagogomes3807 Really it was idea of those who came and settled in goa from Portuguese regime to not let goa join India. Goans were treated as slaves here and by the way not like citizens of their homeland. Many temples were destroyed and people were forced to change religion but it was over when we got freedom.

  • @sagark9427
    @sagark9427 Месяц назад +130

    Using the words ‘India Annexed Goa’ is by itself western hypocrisy.

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims Месяц назад +5

      Was it not a separate political entity? (Yes it was, for centuries, a united India isn’t even 100 years old)

    • @SouradiptaPlays
      @SouradiptaPlays Месяц назад +3

      @@looinrims true, a united india is not even 100 years old even now.

    • @RajSingh-yd8ue
      @RajSingh-yd8ue Месяц назад +10

      ​@@looinrimsby that logic entire USA is annexed
      And UK also annexed whales

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims Месяц назад +1

      @@RajSingh-yd8ue …no it’s a verb silly
      We still use it today in the US for when areas annex land

    • @CokeFan-ql6vx
      @CokeFan-ql6vx Месяц назад +5

      Annex - append or add as an extra or subordinate part

  • @909sid
    @909sid Год назад +509

    You forgot to mention Portugal Navi fired at an Indian fishing boat and killed Indian fishermen in response India launched military operation Vijay(victory). Goa was not invaded it was liberated as the local population was already protesting against the colonial suppression and when the Indians army was about to enter Goa PM António de Oliveira Salazar asked Manuel António Vassalo e Silva (Portuguese general in Goa) to burn down everything so India has a hollow victory but Silva loved Goa and decided to not follow orders he was court marshall and sent into exile on his return to Portugal. (Edited: I do not wish to engage in comment wars with anyone be it nationalistic my statement is simple the title Annexation is wrong Goa is a part of land mass that's called Indian subcontinent and a country that is half world away has no right to control/ govern/ colonize it, assimilate sure but calling it their territory no. Same for US, UK France etc I condemn it thanks)

    • @Xyz04
      @Xyz04 Год назад +5

      🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

    • @Mendaxxx
      @Mendaxxx Год назад

      From a white mans point of view, if they're invading it's good. If others reclaim it it's bad.

    • @shubham_the__legend
      @shubham_the__legend Год назад

      Repliers above me are gay

    • @aaaaaaaa2008-h8z
      @aaaaaaaa2008-h8z Год назад +4

      nice

    • @Joesolo13
      @Joesolo13 Год назад +20

      @Chicken Fujiwara 🤡

  • @InquisitiveYouTube
    @InquisitiveYouTube Год назад +698

    If I were Portugal, I would have packed up and left in 1947 with at least some of my dignity intact instead of being thrown out. Lol. Love present day Portugal... beautiful country. I hope to Goa there to visit some day. ;)

    • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
      @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 Год назад +13

      At least they were less stubborn for Goa than Angola

    • @thechosenone1533
      @thechosenone1533 Год назад +94

      @@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 They were equally stubborn for both. Goa was over quickly because the Indian army had such numerical supremacy that even thinking about fighting was suicide. The local garrison surrendered quickly.

    • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
      @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 Год назад +6

      @@thechosenone1533 yeah, that's true

    • @yakov95000
      @yakov95000 Год назад +15

      If there is a thing you can undoubtedly say on the Iberians(both Spanish and Portuguese)is they are probably(historically atleast)the most stubborn people on this earth(just watch the Portuguese/Ottoman wars),I mean they had 700 year old total war against the Muslims on their land if I remember correctly.

    • @brendonfernandes2877
      @brendonfernandes2877 Год назад

      ​@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 They knew they couldn't win a war with India so the government in Portugal commanded the governer in Goa to scorch earth and destroy everything so there would be nothing much left for India. He was to blow up the churches and destroy all the big infrastructure. However he decided not to obey the order and on his return to Portugal he was arrested, stripped of all his titles and lands and was exiled from Portugal. He was finally pardoned after the fall of the regime. He visited Goa later on and he was given a warm welcome for disobeying his orders to fight till the last man standing.

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 Год назад +292

    A question I’ve occasionally asked but never gotten an answer for.

    • @chevyjd2007
      @chevyjd2007 Год назад +7

      The question I've never gotten was why did the coalition exile Napoleon twice instead of just killing him?

    • @GJMEGA1
      @GJMEGA1 Год назад +9

      @@chevyjd2007 Back then, seemingly no matter what, you just didn't kill heads of state. That's partly, I think, due to the fact that everyone in power knew that one disastrous war would be all it took for THEM to go to the chopping block so it was best just to settle everything with a nice cozy exile. Just in case. Also, part of the reason the Coalitions formed was because the French killed Louis XVI so there was a bit of a public image to uphold. Although nations usually don't care too much about being proven hypocrites this plus the other reason I gave probably tipped the scales. Finally, after his second defeat he was pretty much done in French politics, so even if he somehow came back, which since they put him much farther away wasn't going to happen, he wouldn't be able to rally enough support to threaten the status quo again.

    • @Progamermove_2003
      @Progamermove_2003 Год назад +6

      @@GJMEGA1 And not to forget that a living person does not make a good martyr.

    • @GJMEGA1
      @GJMEGA1 Год назад +1

      @@Progamermove_2003 True, very true.

    • @shapexon3322
      @shapexon3322 Год назад +1

      @@chevyjd2007 Didn't want to make a martyr

  • @meanmachine6173
    @meanmachine6173 10 месяцев назад +100

    India behaved like a true chad after getting independence, showed the middle finger to USA and conducted Nuclear tests despite the whole of the west against it. Beat USA's ally Pakistan blue and black in the 1971 war despite threats of attack by the US. Despite being sucked dry by the Britishers, we have come to such a great position today by our resolute decisions of favouring our own Nation rather than trying to please any superpower.

    • @FelipeJaquez
      @FelipeJaquez 6 месяцев назад +1

      It only took centuries of foreign rule by literally anyone else with a half decent army since the time of the Indo-Aryans but finally India is a free nation capable of selling itself dry to anyone with money. Beautiful!

    • @DhruvChanda-vq3hx
      @DhruvChanda-vq3hx 4 месяца назад +14

      @@bruhbruh-us6gl jeet means victory so i don't know what you are trying to say

    • @bruhbruh-us6gl
      @bruhbruh-us6gl 4 месяца назад +4

      @@DhruvChanda-vq3hx
      Jeet means you don’t know how to use a toilet

    • @DhruvChanda-vq3hx
      @DhruvChanda-vq3hx 3 месяца назад +37

      @@bruhbruh-us6gl says the guy who wipes his ass with toilet paper and walks around the rest of the day with a crusty ass

    • @bruhbruh-us6gl
      @bruhbruh-us6gl 3 месяца назад

      @@DhruvChanda-vq3hx
      LMAO
      "You clean you ass bro? What a loser, just use your hand lol"

  • @satoshiketchump
    @satoshiketchump Год назад +471

    Not only Goa but there were smaller territories called Diu & Daman and Dadra & Nagar Haveli. These still exist as Union Territories while the much larger Goa, understandably, became a State.

    • @induchopra3014
      @induchopra3014 Год назад +10

      Indias land hijacked by Portuguese. How are these Portuguese. Is Portugal in asia?

    • @dhruvmakwana8560
      @dhruvmakwana8560 Год назад +2

      Yep,I live in daman

    • @lobo981
      @lobo981 Год назад +5

      I wish we were a different country ...small and beautiful one ..

    • @JEEVANMARATHE
      @JEEVANMARATHE Год назад +20

      @@lobo981 only because of india, goans are independent and out of brutal prortugal regime... that's why having one great nation is important... India take over by Europeans in first place because of this mentality only.

    • @utkarshtiwari5584
      @utkarshtiwari5584 Год назад +8

      @@lobo981 wo hindi mei ek kahawat hai, jisko jitna zyada mil jata hai, usko wo utna hi kam laga rahta hai, 10 doge to 100 chahiye, 100 to hazaar, aapka wahi haal hai...

  • @chaoticdays
    @chaoticdays 11 месяцев назад +676

    Many people from Goa wrongly think that the Portuguese weren't as cruel to Indians as the British were. Portugal occupied Indian territory 2 centuries before Britain did and carried out a horrific program called "the Goa Inquisition" for centuries. But by the 1900s, the Portuguese realized that they had very little control over the people of Goa because the rest of the country was strongly revolting against British rule and the Portuguese knew that they would face the same in Goa if they tried to assert their control over the people.

    • @AoptimisticNihilist
      @AoptimisticNihilist 10 месяцев назад

      Why are you contradicting yourself! Yes as they absolutely weren't as horrific as British were, on that scale. Of course there were barbaric in early days just like rest of the rulers during 16-17th century

    • @jayK914
      @jayK914 10 месяцев назад

      Portugese were even more cruel than British. They committed several atrocities in kerala.
      They didn't even spare the native Christians (syrian Christians of kerala) and tried to force their european influence on them.
      They attacked and tortured muslim traders and they blackmailed and tricked and bribed the Hindu rulers of Kerala to be their puppets.
      Portugese were much worse.

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 10 месяцев назад +50

      Many people also think that previous mughal or hindu rulers weren't cruel. Honestly,even talking about the Indian history is so controversial .

    • @anisenpai507
      @anisenpai507 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@vatsal7640yeh there were cruel Hindu kings difference os we don't celebrate them Even Ravana was Hindu and Duryodhana was hindu doesn't make them good people we still hate them.

    • @Bryse0405
      @Bryse0405 10 месяцев назад +51

      I'd disagree. I'm from vasai, also a Portuguese colony with Goa in Mumbai. I've heard from my grandparents, who know it from theirs, that Portuguese were the people who actually helped us. Yes they converted because they thought it was the right religion for the people. But it wasn't forced here, my family was a Hindu at first but most of vasai was converted voluntarily. After the Portuguese were driven out till late 1960s, a certain descendant of Shivaji came here and looted. Well, it was always like this but the Portuguese were helping us. The Marathi king had sent his men over here who looted from us our own lands and made us work in those fields just for us to pay taxes on the crops grown and what not. I'm not making any of this up nor I want to spread hate, just saying what I heard from my grandparents who were actually alive at the time.

  • @aagamshah4720
    @aagamshah4720 Год назад +462

    India still wanted to go diplomatically on the Goa topic, until the Portugese opened fire on an Indian Boat and a fisherman died because of that. After that India took the initiative of the Annexation.

    • @Xyz04
      @Xyz04 Год назад +8

      Another 🤓

    • @prodigyy505
      @prodigyy505 Год назад

      @@Xyz04 you nerd reacting to everything that is dissenting your views. Choid demeanour , instead of shitting around give a coherent rebuttal.

    • @Xyz04
      @Xyz04 Год назад +7

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    • @prodigyy505
      @prodigyy505 Год назад +70

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    • @Xyz04
      @Xyz04 Год назад +6

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  • @cinnamonbuns4404
    @cinnamonbuns4404 3 месяца назад +58

    You missed the fact that India didn’t just simply randomly decided to use military force. India being India was using negotiations and diplomacy all the way until an Indian fishing boat/trawler was attacked/shot at by the Portuguese in Goa and Indian fishermen died. This was the last straw for India (naturally) of a bunch of Europeans killing Indians on their own soil.

    • @youtubeuserxix
      @youtubeuserxix 16 дней назад

      They would have attacked at some point, even if no fishermen were shot. Elections were near and Nehru had to do something to become an overnight hero to the Indian people. Look it up.

  • @Theology.101
    @Theology.101 Год назад +148

    “Hey! Don’t change the Borders! Ever!”
    “I mean maybe sometimes…”

    • @TheWaynester101
      @TheWaynester101 Год назад

      just a litte bit… like … maybe a nibble…. *nibbles territory* mmmmm yeah mmm just like that mmmmm let me nibble your territory

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark Год назад

      Due to human nature, I can't see a world where borders stop changing/are removed.

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women for centuries just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it...they let it happen.

  • @lukaszslowakiewicz9395
    @lukaszslowakiewicz9395 Год назад +184

    According to Article 6 of NATO an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack: on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America , on the territory of Turkey or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer. So an attack on Goa or Falkland Islands was not a NATO issue.

    • @alejandrosotomartin9720
      @alejandrosotomartin9720 Год назад +8

      It´s not about Article 6. It´s about NATO won´t declare war to a country like India and the UK can defeat Argentina by its own.

    • @albertoswald8461
      @albertoswald8461 Год назад

      I believe that you mean Article V. That's where an attack on one country is considered an attack on the whole Alliance. The US is so far the only country to successfully invoke Article V for the September 11th terrorist attacks.

    • @cyan_oxy6734
      @cyan_oxy6734 Год назад +4

      The territory of turkey sounds like quite the loophole. Turkey could annex Armenia making it territory of turkey and then have it protected by nato, no?

    • @maxf9291
      @maxf9291 Год назад +13

      @@cyan_oxy6734Turkey could probably get away with that and a lot more, since all NATO will ever give it is a strongly worded letter. NATO values Turkey way too much for its own good

    • @taoliu3949
      @taoliu3949 Год назад +5

      ​@@cyan_oxy6734Its written that way because most of Turkey is not in Europe.
      That said, the loophole would not work because other articles assumes the parties to abide by the UN Charter. And even if theres still a loophole, there are roundabout ways to say "no". And its highly unlikely any country is going to defend a Turkish act of aggression except maybe against Syria.

  • @klx6265
    @klx6265 Год назад +896

    As far as invasions and invaders go, that was the most polite invasion I've ever heard of.
    India: "Hey... Listen, can I have a minute? So.. About that piece of land you have colonized.. Yeah, can you give that back please? It would mean a lot."
    Portugal: "No."
    India: "Please?" 😢
    Portugal: "No."
    **
    India: "Hey, it's been two years, can we please have it back now?"
    Portugal: "No."
    India: "Sigh... You KNOW I hate doing this right? Jfc no good deed goes unpunished huh?"
    **
    Portugal: "A'ight imma head out." 😒

    • @SpiderSid007
      @SpiderSid007 Год назад +67

      I'm still surprised that they waited two years.

    • @anantamohanty1035
      @anantamohanty1035 Год назад +72

      @@SpiderSid007 we like to take our time

    • @SpiderSid007
      @SpiderSid007 Год назад +23

      @@anantamohanty1035 Sad but true. 😔

    • @M1551NGN0
      @M1551NGN0 Год назад +13

      People really be exploiting someone's docility

    • @irenerayne7332
      @irenerayne7332 Год назад +34

      Not invades it's rightfully taken back
      Would u talk the same bout India's freedom struggle cmon

  • @Tommy_shelby717
    @Tommy_shelby717 9 месяцев назад +27

    I am from goa , I am happy that indian government took back goa

    • @vastoaspecto
      @vastoaspecto Месяц назад

      What language Goa people speak nowadays? I heard that some people in Goa still spoke Portuguese.

    • @adityapatro4228
      @adityapatro4228 Месяц назад +5

      @@vastoaspecto they speak the native language Konkan

    • @voldebean6055
      @voldebean6055 Месяц назад

      Obrigado

    • @jp_skywalker
      @jp_skywalker 23 дня назад +1

      What was the best thing the Indian government did after the Portuguese left?
      Goa was a barren costal land.
      It was so barren that even the previous Indian monarchs didn't even bother about this piece of land.
      It's only after the Portuguese made Goa, an international trade zone that the British and even the Indian's monarchies wanted to take over.
      Portugal didn't just build a port, they built and layed the foundations of Goan society.
      They established a bloody civilization.
      You got to respect and give the Portuguese some merit.

    • @oddneighbour
      @oddneighbour 16 дней назад +3

      ​​The only thing Portuguese did for goa was religious genocide, there were already forts and naval bases in Goa before the Portugrease came in @@jp_skywalker

  • @WorldWide_Dom
    @WorldWide_Dom Год назад +115

    India: Invades Goa without any major consequences
    Argentina: .....Is it possible to learn this power!!
    Falkland Island: ...........

    • @alessandrocerioli2151
      @alessandrocerioli2151 Год назад +24

      It is juat a matter of balance of powers: the Argentinian army could not compete with the British Army, and Goa could not be defended by the weak Portuguese empire in front of hundred of thousand Indian soldiers.

    • @realzhella6817
      @realzhella6817 Год назад +31

      How do u even compare the argentine army with the indian army? There's levels to this and they ain't even on the same playing field. Britian was going to run right through argentina at falklands but Britain nor Portugal would not stand a chance against the Indians in goa

    • @vaibhavgupta9934
      @vaibhavgupta9934 Год назад +19

      Definitely India will support Argentina in future...currently India is going through major reforms in every sector..once we reach 10 tillion$ mark..geopolitics will change lot after it

    • @alessandrocerioli2151
      @alessandrocerioli2151 Год назад

      @@vaibhavgupta9934 i like fanatism of Indian fascio-nationalists and their wet dreams

    • @chrismathewjoseph1283
      @chrismathewjoseph1283 Год назад +14

      Bruh, the problem is the Falklands r occupied by Bri'ish settlers....
      Goa is basically Indian in every definition, except many Portuguese settlers did mix with the locals, but the sheer size of the population made that very irrelevant....
      The inhabitants play a big role in such circumstances...

  • @loading9110
    @loading9110 Год назад +336

    I can only imagine Portugal asked for Britain's help in sorting out the problem due to our historic alliance....Because that was a really stupid idea. As if India would care what we had to say about it after what we had done.

    • @jarzz3601
      @jarzz3601 Год назад

      yeah I feel like literally anyone would of made a better mediator unless portugal's objective was just to piss off the Indians

    • @Progamermove_2003
      @Progamermove_2003 Год назад +64

      Thanks but don't use the word "we". I am sure that you weren't personally responsible for any of that stuff. Love from India bro.

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 Год назад +36

      That alliance was a joke anyway, remember that one time Britain threatened war on Portugal to get colonial territories in Africa?
      It kinda did throw us in the rabbit hole that ended up in the backwards dictatorship that clinged to our colonies all the way to 1974

    • @daeron767
      @daeron767 Год назад +6

      Problem was somebody had assassinated Hammarskjold and installed India's buddy the Soviet loving U Thant as the new UN Secretary General ; on top of that the 'Non-Align' bloc that India & Indonesia had just co-sponsored used it's effective veto power to block the attempt by US, UK and France to pass their Security Council motion denouncing India's invasion. Goa was the first and smaller of two nations that got sacrificed in the US/Soviet collaboration to pretend nobody had hi-jacked the UN despite the rather obvious Asian take over.

    • @heyabowa1871
      @heyabowa1871 Год назад +14

      England is the oldest ally of Portugal yet it's also one of the counties that has screwed over Portugal the most.

  • @StevenEveral
    @StevenEveral Год назад +160

    The Portuguese idea of "Pluricontinentalism" definitely was a strange one. It was an attempt by the Estado Novo regime to incorporate its overseas colonies like Angola, Mozambique, Macau, Goa, and even East Timor as "essential" parts of the nation of Portugal.
    This idea mostly died off with the Carnation Revolution of 1975.

    • @alanpennie
      @alanpennie Год назад +30

      France did the same with some though not all of its colonies and still has nearly 1 million citizens in overseas departments.

    • @dominicguye8058
      @dominicguye8058 Год назад +8

      I don't think it was strange for that reason at least

    • @heyabowa1871
      @heyabowa1871 Год назад +37

      It isn't strange at all. What is strange is to treat your citizens differently depending on what part of your country they live in.
      I guess those are just the differences between a Catholic empire and a predatory Protestant empire.

    • @harrypadarri6349
      @harrypadarri6349 Год назад +6

      @@heyabowa1871 Well, it is weird if you consider that Portugal was an colonial empire with a rather small population.
      And it was a far-right dictatorship.
      So you had all power centralised in the capital of a small country that ruled over colonies around the globe.
      It is far from treating all citizens equally when all the political decisions are made by a small group of people in Europe. The people in the colonies had no say in what their future would be.
      French Algeria was similar in that the French empire tried to forcefully assimilate the country.
      That’s also a huge difference if you compare it to French-Guyana.
      If the people in an overseas territory overwhelmingly demand to decide their own fate it would simply be subjugation.
      Where that’s not the case making everyone citizens is actually a step towards equality.
      Don’t get me wrong: I think that nowadays in most cases solutions based on compromises and autonomy are better.
      But when looking at that time period we’re talking about the age of decolonisation.

    • @heyabowa1871
      @heyabowa1871 Год назад +18

      @@harrypadarri6349 The european parts of these empires didn't have any more power than the "colonies" you speak of. A citizen born in Lima was as Spanish as one born in Sevilla, regardless of ethnic origin. Portugal's capital was once Rio de Janeiro, even.
      And we didn't wipe out the original population for ethnic and political reasons like the English did.

  • @vinayakpatil355
    @vinayakpatil355 9 месяцев назад +61

    Those who say Portuguese were in Goa to liberate the common, they should learn about it, for instance 'Hatkatro Khaamb in Goa'. There are many such inhumane things about Inquisition of Goa under Portuguese rule.

  • @dkpandey1996
    @dkpandey1996 Год назад +626

    We see it more as reclaiming a piece of our territory that had been colonised by an overseas power for over 400 years, thank you very much.

    • @marcelldavis4809
      @marcelldavis4809 Год назад +120

      I think this is one of the reasons why nobody wanted to react to the invasion. Everyone knew that Goa actually belonged to India, even though they might not have admitted it for diplomatic reasons. It's similar to the international lack of support for Rhodesia when it declared independence from Britain. Most People in Europe realised that the age of colonialism was over that it was wrong to keep the land taken from the natives.

    • @dkpandey1996
      @dkpandey1996 Год назад +21

      @robertolang9684 I should point out that there was not a war but rather a political struggle, and it hardly fazed the British in my opinion. The aftermath of WW2 was the main reason why Britain gave up it's colonies in Africa and Asia over the next 10-15 years. It was becoming economically and militarily difficult to keep control over most of the colonies.

    • @adityamuley87
      @adityamuley87 Год назад +61

      @@dkpandey1996 you are forgetting the Indian national army and the very real threat of british Indian army mutiny at the end of world War 2 that prompted the british to yeet out of India

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад +1

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it...they let it happen.

    • @paradoxaddict8978
      @paradoxaddict8978 Год назад +13

      and now goans want to become portugese citizens because portugal is better

  • @miketacos9034
    @miketacos9034 Год назад +24

    Portugal: “I’m gonna lose my empire in India!”
    Britain: “Ya don’t say.”

  • @zap3231
    @zap3231 Год назад +227

    Portugal: The first, last, and longest colonial empire in history. From 1415 to 1999.

    • @genghiskhansbabymomma5649
      @genghiskhansbabymomma5649 Год назад +31

      France is pretty far from tahiti ngl

    • @Bibbedibob
      @Bibbedibob Год назад +41

      Not last since France still has colonies

    • @Maia_Cyclist
      @Maia_Cyclist Год назад

      @@Bibbedibob they still need a century to overtake us

    • @cazwalt9013
      @cazwalt9013 Год назад +29

      @@Bibbedibob all those places are part of France and aren't colonies

    • @ilovebatata19
      @ilovebatata19 Год назад +37

      @@Bibbedibob french overseas territories aren't to be considered colonies as of now

  • @bigbulk688
    @bigbulk688 10 месяцев назад +12

    I am Goan, watching this from Goa. Nice summary of things.

  • @sudhanshudhatrak7928
    @sudhanshudhatrak7928 Год назад +501

    India literally went against NATO without any plan to counter ! This needs some serious balls !
    I've been to Goa atleast 3 times it's an absolute paradise ! Love Goa - Live Long India
    PS : Use the correct map of India next time

    • @praveendixit.parambhattaraka
      @praveendixit.parambhattaraka Год назад +22

      Nehru’s idealism hardly had any plans for International relations of India… he always wished “it would happen”… in rare cases he was right

    • @vaskarghosh8543
      @vaskarghosh8543 Год назад +49

      Not any plan ?? did you miss that part about statement of kruschev? Nehru had the backing of soviets

    • @unitycatalog
      @unitycatalog Год назад +1

      Goa is a $hithole😂

    • @indianlad23
      @indianlad23 Год назад +4

      @@praveendixit.parambhattaraka True. Goa was a fluke.

    • @cijoykjose
      @cijoykjose Год назад +23

      Because then we had Soviet Union. If it was today, the scenario would have been different.

  • @scott3017
    @scott3017 Год назад +81

    If I remember correctly, the mutual defense clause of NATO only applies to territories in the North Atlantic region, so they were only under obligation to defend portugal proper and it's Atlantic islands.

    • @SundarSrinivasHarish
      @SundarSrinivasHarish Год назад +8

      As explained in the video, Portugal at the time did not distinguish between Portugal proper and its overseas territories. Of course, NATO was not obligated to take the same view as Portugal.

    • @user-uy2dp1dh4h
      @user-uy2dp1dh4h Год назад +7

      Hey I had a question, so why did Nato back the USA in Iraq and Afghanastin if their not in the European continent? Wouldn't that be a breach in the treaty or do they just bend the rules as they see fit as usual.

    • @scott3017
      @scott3017 Год назад +7

      @@user-uy2dp1dh4h good question. First, nato intervened in Afghanistan as a direct result of the September 11th terrorist attacks. North America is covered under the treaty. In fact its the only time article 5 guaranteeing collective defense was invoked.
      Nato, however, was not involved in Iraq. That was just the US, UK, and a couple other nations acting in their own defensive interests.

    • @GuyAWhite-rk3se
      @GuyAWhite-rk3se Год назад

      NATO only exists to antagonize Russia and now China

    • @aralbrec
      @aralbrec Год назад

      @@user-uy2dp1dh4h No one breaks the rules. In fact a lot of the world seems to think actions by states who happen to be members of NATO are NATO actions. They are not. The only time article 5 was invoked is after the terrorist attack on the US on Sep 11. That led to the invasion of Afghanistan and the follow up UN-endorsed mission to establish a stable democratic state in Afghanistan. (As an aside for the particular case of GOA, NATO article 5 is worded in a way that excludes colonial territories because most of the alliance was not interested in defending colonialism which was a dying remnant of the 19th century).
      The first Iraq War to expel Iraq from Kuwait was widely supported and included demands by the UN for Iraq to withdraw. Again, nothing to do with NATO although many NATO member states were involved. The second Iraq War also had nothing to do with NATO and this time the majority of NATO countries opposed it. This led to politics in the US which talked about the "new Europe" and the "old Europe" -- the old meaning NATO members opposed to the war and the new meaning countries (following the collapse of the USSR) seeking to join NATO for protection from Russia which the US tried to portray as the future of Europe. The new were oft motivated by proving their readiness for membership.

  • @nehagc
    @nehagc 6 месяцев назад +13

    Goa was historically belonged to India ...we have thousands year old temples and structures which portugese left while destroying some other.

    • @jp_skywalker
      @jp_skywalker 23 дня назад

      😂😂😂
      When did the temples pop up?
      The Portuguese were to first to claim the land.
      Goa inhabitants were illiterate and didn't belong under an ruling kingdom of India.
      The potuguese created and built Goa from nothing.
      Default religion is catholicism.
      Now don't say forced conversions - cuz many were happy that they got converted plus Portuguese gave them education, religion and culture.
      temples were built after the Indian Army conquered Goa.

    • @youtubeuserxix
      @youtubeuserxix 16 дней назад

      ​@@jp_skywalker Goa was conquered by the Portuguese in 1510 from the Muslim rulers.

  • @manny2themaxxx333
    @manny2themaxxx333 Год назад +107

    India: "Get out of our country"
    Portugal: "Excuse me? this is Portugal"
    India: "My army says it's ours so leave"
    Portugal: "Yeah well we have NATO"
    NATO: *Crickets*

    • @mysticondeflamme
      @mysticondeflamme Год назад +6

      Pamjeets go brrr

    • @sahilsingh6048
      @sahilsingh6048 Год назад +25

      @@mysticondeflamme Peshawar💥💥💥💥💥

    • @Iamalemonwhy
      @Iamalemonwhy Год назад +18

      @@mysticondeflamme Ola uber boom

    • @Progamermove_2003
      @Progamermove_2003 Год назад +34

      Portugal: "Excuse me? This is Portugal"
      Goans: "But we consider ourselves as Indians, and you are the brutal colonial oppressers who killed thousands of our people in the inquisition among other things!"
      Portuguese leadership:"But the facts doesn't matter!"

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Год назад +4

      ^ ""facts""

  • @kingace6186
    @kingace6186 Год назад +97

    At least, India went through the diplomatic route for as long as it could before conquering it back.
    I didn't know about this historical event. Little-known-history matters!

    • @tiagogomes3807
      @tiagogomes3807 Год назад +4

      Invading.
      You conquer back what was yours and Goa had never been parte of India until they invaded.

    • @YinYanUzumaki
      @YinYanUzumaki Год назад

      @@tiagogomes3807 So Goa was part of Portugal then ? By your logic India was never a part of India since they were actually British colony ? White people dont get understand logic ,do they ?

    • @prodigyy505
      @prodigyy505 Год назад +6

      @@tiagogomes3807 Goa was not a part of India?

    • @tiagogomes3807
      @tiagogomes3807 Год назад +2

      @@prodigyy505 no. India was only a country, a single entity after the independence from Britain.
      So Goa was never part of India until they invaded it in the 60s.

    • @prodigyy505
      @prodigyy505 Год назад +8

      @@tiagogomes3807 Sorry but later to the India’s independence Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel managed to reunify and amalgamate all the 550 princely states and the states under the British colonial rule to form a distinct nation.

  • @sanketk3155
    @sanketk3155 Год назад +110

    I am amazed, even after losing battle westerns be like "It's we who allowed you to win against us, you couldn't've done it on own".

  • @brucelee148
    @brucelee148 Месяц назад +5

    India was never exist before the British people went there.The British invaded South Asia and make it a country:India.

    • @pulpinfinity4611
      @pulpinfinity4611 Месяц назад +1

      shut up, you dont know anything about my countries history

    • @its_jay4357
      @its_jay4357 Месяц назад

      How stupid you would be, 🙄 india exists before your Jesus came to life, before 200 bc we had great rulers

    • @vladof_putler
      @vladof_putler Месяц назад +1

      Greeks called India "India" 3000 years ago.

    • @learningagain4094
      @learningagain4094 Месяц назад +1

      @@vladof_putler They called it because it was the name of the region. However, the region wasn't united and remained a bunch of separate states.
      It'd be akin to saying "Africa" is one nation because it has a name.

    • @KoHo-xy2mp
      @KoHo-xy2mp 13 дней назад

      ​@@learningagain4094even we are bunch of lands but we are oneof the most richest and cultural place in the world but you funny 😂😂

  • @Sail0rIo
    @Sail0rIo Год назад +442

    I had a friend whose parents were young adults during the annexation and his father told the story that his family had packed up to leave during the invasion to get on the boats the Portuguese provided but they heard of a plan to blow up the bridges so they just went back home and it was basically over the next day. The jewel of the Portuguese empire for 450 years gone in a whimper.

    • @airl10
      @airl10 Год назад +21

      Wouldn't the jewel of the Portuguese empire be Angola, Mozambique, or those two as a whole?

    • @nm7358
      @nm7358 Год назад +99

      @@airl10 No, it was Goa, Diu, and Macao.

    • @bebedor_de_cafe3272
      @bebedor_de_cafe3272 Год назад +22

      @@airl10 Brazil

    • @bebedor_de_cafe3272
      @bebedor_de_cafe3272 Год назад +44

      @@nm7358 the jewel was Brazil

    • @B3RyL
      @B3RyL Год назад +64

      It's like it had just... goaned away.
      I'll see myself out.

  • @justinlabrosse8506
    @justinlabrosse8506 Год назад +101

    My girlfriends grandfather was from Portugal and fought in this war and the Portuguese Angolan independence war. He was a descendant of settling soldiers in Angola. He fled back to Portugal when the war was lost and lost everything.

    • @justinlabrosse8506
      @justinlabrosse8506 11 месяцев назад

      @mnd7381 only if you knew the atrocities the government committed on the Portuguese settlers when they won independence. It was wide scale genocide.

    • @_prash
      @_prash 10 месяцев назад +3

      😂😂

  • @xxnightdriverxx9576
    @xxnightdriverxx9576 Год назад +24

    Wait what? A military that overthrew a dictatorship to install a democracy? What timeline is this.... Please make a video about why the Portugiese military overthrew its government/dictator.

    • @South_Asian.Fascist-98
      @South_Asian.Fascist-98 Год назад +3

      Turkish Military was kinda like that but Now they are not that powerful in this Social Media era
      Failed Coup of Turkish force in 2016

    • @jpfg2713
      @jpfg2713 Год назад

      Yeah the military got fed up with the pointless colonial wars, and overthrew the government. Only seven people died, who were killed by the secret Police. We call it the Carnation revolution, and it hapenned on April 25, 1974.
      Go read on it it's interesting.

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 Год назад +3

      Basically the government had put us on a decade long period of attrition war
      The military formed a revolutionary clique and stormed the streets without firing a shot, the people proceeded to follow them euphorically and the soldiers were given carnation flowers to put on their gun barrels
      Afterwardd a left coalition took over, notoriously former political prisoners who were liberated
      A failed communist coup and a Estado Novo counter-coup later and we got our modern democracy....which sucks ass but is leagues betters than not being allowed an opinion. The people are the ones who rule supreme

    • @declannewton2556
      @declannewton2556 Год назад +6

      The reason why you didn't hear about it because it isn't as simple. History Matters for the sake of brevity summarized it down to the beginning and its end; I don't blame him for that through. This period spanned a couple years.
      To begin with, one needs to understand what was Portugal prior to the revolution. Portugal had been ruled for decades by its prime minsiter, Antonio do Oliviera Salazar. Salazar had created what amounted to a dictatorship and called it the Estado Novo. One thing to note is that Salazar was a civilian and the Estado Novo was virtually civilian in nature. At the beginning of his reign in the 30s, the Portuguese empire was intact. But as it progressed it started to fall apart.
      In fact, the very invasion of Goa happened under him. After the invasion of Goa, several insurgencies began in the various colonies. He instituted conscription within Portugal to retain them; and thus the Portuguese colonial war began. By the time he died, the empire was embroiled conflict. His successor only had partial success in containing the rebellion, but there was still no light at the end of the tunnel. Futhermore, Portugal was blowing upwards of 40% of its budget on this conflict.
      Many troops by 1974 had lost their morale, but by and large they remained loyal to the government. The problem was that within the military, emerged a organization of lower ranking leftist officers. These officers, to clarify were in the vast minority within the military, but they were enough to plot a coup right under their higher ups noses'.
      They struck in 1974 in what was the Carnation Revolution. They were in part successful because no one in the government expected it. The coup plotters promise of a negotiated end to the war ensured that the rest of war weary army acquiesced.
      With the demise of the government, the coup plotters united with their senior officers to form a junta. This junta was rather ideolgically diverse to say the least. On one hand, you had the establishment officers, then the moderates, and finally the leftists. Because of such an acrimonious union, the parties sort of agreed that transitioning to democracy would be the best. Well only two of them did, because the leftist ones(the same ones who planned the coup to begin with) wanted to use this opportunity to transition Portugal into a Marxist socialist state.
      Portugal for the next two years, was teetering on the brink of civil war. On one hand, the leftist officers were pushing the junta to the left, while right wing officers wanted to get rid of the junta altogether, and then there was the junta trying to enact democracy. Didn't help the junta ended the colonial war by unconditionally granting their colonies independence; resulting in a mass influx of Portuguese settlers who were more often of than not stripped of any wealth when they fled.
      Regardless of the chaos, democratic elections were finally held in 1976 and helped put this crisis(mostly) to bed

  • @crichighlights2531
    @crichighlights2531 4 месяца назад +11

    Love from Goa, India

  • @dr.batman2530
    @dr.batman2530 Год назад +33

    You missed Dadra and Nagar Haveli.
    They were tiny Portuguese enclaves surrounded by Indian state of Gujarat. Being landlocked, they were in a dire situation when India imposed the blockade of Estado Português da Índia. The case went to International Court of Justice and they implicitly recognised Portuguese claim while declaring that Portugal had the right of passage between it's territories. But they did rule that India had not broken any law by blocking military movements between territories.
    Soon, in 1954, a co-ordinated group of Left wing communists and Right wing Hindu nationalists (yes, they worked together) stormed the Portuguese police station, assassinated the Police inspector, and hoised the Indian flag. Dadra and Nagar Haveli became a de-facto Indian territory.
    But funny enough, India herself did not recognise the annexation de jure, owing to the ICJ verdict, and subsequently officially annexed it only in 1961 after making a Constitutional amendment.
    Indian constitution makes annexations legal and requires amendments before annexing any territory. In 1961 such amendment was made. Till then Dadra and Nagar Haveli was a de jure unrecognised independent state, while being de-facto run by Indians. The last time such a constitutional amendment to add a territory to India was made in 1975 when Kingdom of Sikkim was annexed after a Referendum.

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 Год назад +4

      " *The last time such a constitutional amendment to add a territory to India was made in 1975 when Kingdom of Sikkim was annexed after a Referendum* "
      I wonder why India didn't make a referendum in Goa??? He says Goans wanted to join India so what would be the problem?
      Mmmmh I'm very curious to know

    • @dr.batman2530
      @dr.batman2530 Год назад +22

      @@lxportugal9343 there was a referendum BTW in 1967. But on the status of Goa whether they wanted to stay as a Union territory (federal subjects directly ruled by Indian Central government) or join adjacent State of Maharashtra.
      Goans voted to stay as a seperate Union territory. Goa was made a state in 1980s. Voter turnout was 81%.
      So yes, Goans, by implication voted to stay in India, going by voter turnout itself. They literally chose for 2 decades to stay under the rule of India's federal/central government.
      Go ahead. Cry some more.

    • @no_more_spamplease5121
      @no_more_spamplease5121 Год назад +1

      What happened to the king of Sikkim after annexation?

    • @dr.batman2530
      @dr.batman2530 Год назад +12

      @@no_more_spamplease5121 He attempted suicide but was airlifted to Kolkata. Few years later, he soon died of cancer nonetheless.
      His American wife, the last Queen of Sikkim, now lives in US.

    • @dr.batman2530
      @dr.batman2530 Год назад +6

      @@no_more_spamplease5121 A fun fact about the monarch.
      He had funded the Academy award winning Indian director Satyajit Ray to make a documentary on Sikkim in early 1970s. India had banned the documentary after annexation and it was lifted only like 10 years back.

  • @sanjayrai2934
    @sanjayrai2934 Год назад +22

    India: please leave
    Portugal: No
    India: loads AK-47
    Potugal: ok ok

    • @mysticondeflamme
      @mysticondeflamme Год назад +3

      Wait, you guys don't fight with bows and arrows on elephant backs?

    • @okayy6780
      @okayy6780 Год назад +5

      @windrose5988 Didn't most of the world, at one point or the other, huh?

    • @vladtheimpaler5454
      @vladtheimpaler5454 Год назад +5

      @@mysticondeflamme yep..fighting with bows and arrows is enough for Portugal nowadays😂😂😂😂does Portugal even have an army..the only modern contribution they did to modern world is Ronaldo

    • @no_more_spamplease5121
      @no_more_spamplease5121 Год назад +1

      @@vladtheimpaler5454 Not true. Portugal also offered the world the Belém pastel.

    • @DESIBOY-fe7nm
      @DESIBOY-fe7nm Год назад

      @@mysticondeflamme "Occasionally"

  • @bc7138
    @bc7138 Год назад +72

    Finished reading Roger Crowley's 'Conquerors: How Portugal Forged the First Global Empire' last night. It covers Afonso de Albuquerque's conquest of Goa in the early 16th century.
    Today I saw this video posted about the loss of Goa for Portugal. Funnily enough Albuquerque did say he wanted to build a fort on Goa to protect the island to the end of days. If they had greater knowledge of astrophysics in the Renaissance perhaps he would've said 'heat death of the Universe'.

    • @hamdinger7145
      @hamdinger7145 Год назад +5

      Interesting book. I will look for it.

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women for centuries just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it...they let it happen.

  • @jakej2680
    @jakej2680 5 месяцев назад +6

    When I heard about this I thought "Why in the world would anyone have helped Portugal keep Goa? Why did they even bother asking?". It's hard for me to think of this as some sort of invasion when decolonization had been in full swing for a while at that point.
    Much stronger countries had relinquished much more valuable possessions to much weaker adversaries, either because of necessity or coercion from the US and the broader global community. Maybe I am getting too realpolitik but it's just ridiculous they expected those same nations to see them as the last straw and start a major war with India.
    Sorry, Portugal, but decolonization had to happen and to be honest, it's kind of unbelievable your empire held on as long as it did.

  • @DodoLP
    @DodoLP Год назад +20

    "india marched their army in the territory of western european nation" -> territory on the other side of the world lmao

  • @shantanus5493
    @shantanus5493 Год назад +24

    You forgot to mention that the US brought a resolution to sanction India at UNSC for annexing Goa, to which the USSR vetoed.

    • @user-jt3dw6vv4x
      @user-jt3dw6vv4x Год назад +1

      Just another reason why I don't understand why y'all side with the US. Honestly, from my unwanted 2 cents of an opinion, if I was in an elite position of India's government, I'd believe strongly in joining forces with China. The US will never let y'all develop. They regret letting China develop without intervention and so have learned their lesson, they aren't going to repeat the same thing with a rising India. Adani's downfall at the hands of a small American firm and how the world is inferring "Adani's failure = whole of India's economy" is just the beginning. The US is a superpower, China is not. The US has the power to pull strings on a regular basis, China does not. This constant focus on China is going to prevent y'all from seeing the other threat that is creeping up on you from behind.

    • @aryan_pratap
      @aryan_pratap Год назад

      @@user-jt3dw6vv4x we dont side with US.....we never did......we believe in a multi polar world.......and for you information it is the chinese who are aggressive on the border....for some reason the commies wont let us live in peace

    • @user-jt3dw6vv4x
      @user-jt3dw6vv4x Год назад

      @@aryan_pratap We don't live in a multipolar world. There is still one superpower and that's the US. China is rising but they don't want to become a superpower in the way the US wanted to back in the 1980s. They have a different idea and one that results in multipolarity.

    • @natebox4550
      @natebox4550 Год назад

      @@user-jt3dw6vv4x China and India are literally rivals man? Many outright hate ones other. There have literally been multiple skirmishes on the borders, even recently.

    • @natebox4550
      @natebox4550 Год назад +1

      @@user-jt3dw6vv4x also China does want to be a power just like America! Do you not know the sway they hold on Africa?

  • @DarkshadowXD63
    @DarkshadowXD63 Год назад +413

    It would be an interesting Alternate history to see a Hong Kong or Singapore style of City State style of government for Goa on the Indian Sub-continent. Another great video on topic I never knew about

    • @moritamikamikara3879
      @moritamikamikara3879 Год назад +80

      It would be pretty shit.
      Singapore is as great as it is because of Geography, being at such a perfect position in the trade path to China at the straight of Malaca.
      Goa's position isn't terrible for trade but it's not fantastic either. It wouldn't be fantastically wealthy and there's no way portugal could keep it.

    • @-haclong2366
      @-haclong2366 Год назад +126

      @@moritamikamikara3879 It would probably still be wealthier than India because it would be a haven for ambitious businesspeople fleeing the Soviet-style License Raj which crippled the Indian economy.
      Hong Kong only succeeded because the Chinese mismanaged their economy.

    • @danieleyre8913
      @danieleyre8913 Год назад +8

      Well if Macau or Goa itself pre-unification are anything to go on; Goa would probably be even more of a backwater.

    • @coutinihoho7927
      @coutinihoho7927 Год назад +5

      We do kind of have that. Although I'm part goan I'm. Not too sure but I know we are our own state in India so yeah

    • @cockadoodledoowhoareyou2616
      @cockadoodledoowhoareyou2616 Год назад +6

      @@-haclong2366I don’t think goa would come close to beating a superpower. Per capita? Maybe, but otherwise it doesn’t stand a chance.

  • @vishalpachpande5921
    @vishalpachpande5921 Месяц назад +11

    Bro didnt mentioned how the Portuguese killed some of the fishermen of India that the final blow when India invaded

    • @dzzzzzz1
      @dzzzzzz1 Месяц назад +1

      I would reword it
      India reclaimed it instead of mentioned by you India invaded

    • @vishalpachpande5921
      @vishalpachpande5921 Месяц назад +1

      @@dzzzzzz1 India formed on 15 August 1947. That's why I have written invaded

    • @dharshdanube6911
      @dharshdanube6911 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@dzzzzzz1There was no 'India' when goa was under the Portuguese rule. That's why we use 'invade' and 'annexation'.

    • @lucasribeiro7534
      @lucasribeiro7534 14 часов назад

      That happened after many violations of the Portuguese borders. That fishing boat was seen as a threat, even if it didn't end up being a real one. If the Portuguese hadn't been on edge, anticipating an invasion, that wouldn't have happened. Portugal just stood its ground.

    • @lucasribeiro7534
      @lucasribeiro7534 14 часов назад

      Also, earlier that year, there had been a terrorist attack in another Portuguese territory. Congolese rebels had invaded Angola. The Portuguese feared that was going to happen in Goa as well (and it did).

  • @ingarssamins1411
    @ingarssamins1411 Год назад +145

    I had a geography olympiad today. There was a task with points in a map and descriptions under the map. We had to connect the points to the correct descriptions. 2 of the descriptions went like "locals know the nuts originating from this region as para nuts, but rest of the nuts call them by their countrie's name" and "This former colony of Portugal is now the smallest state of the country" I connected the one about nuts to India (since cashews are called indian nuts) and the colony one to Brasil. Then I remembered about this video. I instantly reconected them. Thank you. Your video just saved me points.

  • @PurooRoy
    @PurooRoy Год назад +22

    Goa is the living proof that Jawaharlal Nehru could have easily saved Kashmir from Pakistan if UN hadn't intervened.

    • @muditragrawal
      @muditragrawal Год назад +2

      Goa was liberated in 2 days whereas Indian army fought in Kashmir for 15 months before the ceasefire was declared .. POK was more easily accessible from Pakistan's side than Indian, and they had dug in defensive positions, which were not easy to uproot.

    • @ritikshaw5868
      @ritikshaw5868 Год назад +4

      In Kashmir the Pakistanis were holding mountains while we had the valley. The Siachin glacier gave us an edge later on.

  • @Wadser
    @Wadser Год назад +54

    One fact that is omitted but essential for context is that the reason France was so willing to part with Indian possessions is because they had already fought and lost two costly wars for colonial territories and wasn't going to try again a third time

    • @skiteufr
      @skiteufr Год назад +8

      France gave independance to Algeria on its own will. It was not forced by military defeat. There is actually not one single defeat of the French army in Algeria and at the end of the war, the French army was still present on all algerian territory. But for political reasons, independance was given cuz any future with algeria was impossible after the horrors of this war

    • @sidhantjasrotia220
      @sidhantjasrotia220 Год назад +10

      @@skiteufr VIETNAM

    • @skiteufr
      @skiteufr Год назад +3

      @@sidhantjasrotia220 that one was lost militarilly yes. But not the Algerian war

    • @yomamasohot6411
      @yomamasohot6411 Год назад +2

      @@skiteufr Can we all just agree that was the most embarrasing military defeat for France and the US(Until recently before they lost in Afghanistan as well)?

    • @alejandrosotomartin9720
      @alejandrosotomartin9720 Год назад +3

      @@yomamasohot6411 And for Japan and for Commie China.

  • @libertariantiger
    @libertariantiger Год назад +56

    Portugal had also Daman and Diu besides Goa

    • @MADAN0401
      @MADAN0401 Год назад +5

      Also Dadar and Nagar haveli

    • @whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790
      @whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790 Год назад +2

      And Bandel, a town on the Hooghly river, 50kms or so from Kolkata. One of a rather interesting stretch of European colonies lining a 30km stretch of the Hooghly river - Bandel (Portuguese), Chinsurah (Dutch), Chandannagar (French), Srerampore (Danish) and probably others I'm forgetting.

    • @Mishra77
      @Mishra77 Год назад +1

      *& we took back those all they had*

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women for centuries just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it....they let it happen.

  • @llyunnie3921
    @llyunnie3921 Год назад +81

    Can you make a video as to why Argentina owns the tip of South America even though it's cut off by Chile?

    • @ezefinkielman4672
      @ezefinkielman4672 Год назад +21

      The tip is called Tierra del Fuego. Long story short, but Argentina and Chile had border disputes when both countries expanded south to the Patagonia (Spain never colonized it). As to Tierra del Fuego itself, in 1881, Chile and Argentina agreed to split it in two, the west for Chile and the east for Argentina. There is a lot to this story as Argentina and Chile didn’t resolve their border issues until 1984.

    • @SG003
      @SG003 Год назад

      @@ezefinkielman4672 Spain never colonized it, so indigenous people live there?

    • @ennui9745
      @ennui9745 Год назад +5

      @@SG003 From what I understand the Mapuche successfully resisted Spanish colonization for 300 years which is why Spain never colonized the southern tip of South America. However, the postcolonial nations of Chile and Argentina did. Mapuche still live there, but are marginalized (to an extent). And I think some native Patagonians still exist further south than the Mapuche.

    • @palheiro5560
      @palheiro5560 Год назад

      @@SG003 The Independent Spanish Speaking did it, but when main land Spain was in charge they never went that far South

  • @educationtube7359
    @educationtube7359 Год назад +16

    Goa was, is & will be integral part of Bharat.

    • @morfeusaquino4695
      @morfeusaquino4695 Год назад +1

      Never was, was cowardly conquered from Portugal.

    • @amritaparida3992
      @amritaparida3992 Год назад +1

      @@morfeusaquino4695 Bruhhh...you don't have to make your jealousy this evident!

    • @umeshkumarpowtr
      @umeshkumarpowtr Год назад

      @@morfeusaquino4695 Why did Portugal have ancient links with Goa if not then get some facts man or just stfu

    • @stanleymcmillan4389
      @stanleymcmillan4389 Год назад +1

      @@morfeusaquino4695 Cry more

    • @morfeusaquino4695
      @morfeusaquino4695 Год назад +1

      @@amritaparida3992 Jealousy? From What ? That's just facts, Goa was portuguese for nearly 400 years.

  • @diogofernandes5940
    @diogofernandes5940 8 месяцев назад +12

    Goa didn't have oil like Kuwait!

  • @madshagen5849
    @madshagen5849 Год назад +24

    "Roughly 5 minutes after the heat death of the Universe" as a term for "NEVER" beats "Until the sun burns out" or "until Judgement Day" by a magnitude of.. well.. 10 to the power of 1000...

  • @yourroyalchungusness
    @yourroyalchungusness Год назад +15

    India-portuguese war in post-WW2 era would be something unthinkable but yet here it happened

  • @hiyashinsu17
    @hiyashinsu17 Год назад +92

    Imagine crying because someone took back what originally belonged to them.

    • @thatsbaddie
      @thatsbaddie Год назад +9

      That's perfect

    • @rb98769
      @rb98769 Год назад +9

      No one cried any tears over this other than that clown Salazar

    • @stanleymcmillan4389
      @stanleymcmillan4389 Год назад +6

      @@rb98769 Salazar Slytherin?

    • @swamidude2214
      @swamidude2214 Год назад +11

      The Portuguese did capture it on request of the Vijayanagara empire after they lost it to the sultanate of Beijapur or at least were recognised because of the many wars again the muslim sultanates it was a welcome ally. Also locals saw it then as preferable to Muslim rule with high taxes for non believers. Honestly the Portuguese proved themselves horrible leaders later on, so they have that to blame themselves. But it was not completely unjustified claim or unrecognised at the time they gained control

    • @kalupses8514
      @kalupses8514 Год назад +9

      @@stanleymcmillan4389 Fun fact, JK Rowling lived in Portugal and took inspiration from Portugals cruel fascist dictator Salazar to name her book character Salazar Slytherin.

  • @real_gamer9856
    @real_gamer9856 5 дней назад +1

    Portugal offered citizenship to anyone in goa who didn't want to live under india which is quite interesting

  • @yeeloongong
    @yeeloongong Год назад +98

    not just Goa - Darman and Diu as well on the same day , and then Dadra and Nagar Haveli who freed themselves already also applied to join India . You can only imagine how horrible the colonizers are for the people to want them gone

    • @akp3097
      @akp3097 11 месяцев назад

      Dadra nagar haveli had their own PM for a day 😂 gujarati guy became PM and signed integration with India

  • @neilsamuel5268
    @neilsamuel5268 Год назад +182

    I like how atleast 2 different versions of north border of India has been used in this video, because being from India, I had never seen other versions of our map until a few years ago!
    That northern border really worries me at times, because of the constant tension with neighbours who are nuclear powers as well.

    • @indianinja420
      @indianinja420 Год назад +18

      It's not like you have to worry about the southern border cause there are no borders in the south 😂

    • @Seevawonderloaf
      @Seevawonderloaf 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@indianinja420what?

    • @a_39_yashraj48
      @a_39_yashraj48 11 месяцев назад +7

      The tension isn't with the nuclear armed country and it's army.. it's because of terrorist and insurgents that are TRAINED by them, for a convectional country to country standoff India is very much safe and stronger and secured but terrorism and insurgency is the thing that is hard to grab around. also the map is SO WRONG

  • @janpiorko3809
    @janpiorko3809 Год назад +22

    Portugal: "You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen!"

  • @RanjanIsEvil
    @RanjanIsEvil 7 месяцев назад +39

    India just took it back.

    • @dzzzzzz1
      @dzzzzzz1 Месяц назад

      Yay India reclaimed it
      This video is sooooo misguiding
      Stilll endless likes shows how unaware or misinformed are people at large

  • @gimmethegepgun
    @gimmethegepgun Год назад +95

    Under Article 6 of the North Atlantic Treaty, Article 5 can only be invoked over attacks in Europe, North America, Turkey, or Atlantic islands north of the Tropic of Cancer. Goa is none of those, so NATO had no obligation to respond.
    Interestingly, the US has interpreted that as meaning that Hawaii isn't covered (this interpretation was stated in 1965, after the invasion of Goa).

    • @varoonnone7159
      @varoonnone7159 Год назад

      What about a comorian invasion of Mayotte? Will NATO intervene?

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun Год назад +1

      @@varoonnone7159 They'd have no obligation to. Members might choose to get involved, but they don't have to.

    • @gustafa.grundgens3364
      @gustafa.grundgens3364 Год назад +5

      Well: the North Atlantic treaty was concluded in 1949, and Hawaii did not become a U.S. state until 1959.

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun Год назад +1

      @pk dl via invasion.

    • @TheVenge.
      @TheVenge. Год назад

      Also Because Portugal conducted genocides in Goa slaughtered Hindus destroyed temples, Raped and tortured women for centuries just because they were Hindus. Portuguese Christian missionaries and their evil Saint Xavier introduced this concept. Read about the famous goa inquisition holocaust It's horrific and the worst part is europeans knew about it...they let it happen.

  • @satyakisil9711
    @satyakisil9711 Год назад +35

    Interesting to know that Egypt denied Portugal from sending reinforcements through the Suez since Nehru and Nasser had good relations back then. Also, unlike the French the Portuguese actually had industrial work in Goa. The French were simply using the Indian colonies as markets and after losing Indochina those lands were pretty much useless. Despite that the French dragged the diplomatic procedure to a lengthy eight years and agreed to secession after declaring French the offical language and imposing French academia and legal structures.

  • @vijaydahiya4498
    @vijaydahiya4498 Год назад +6

    What invasion by India? It was Indian land and the Portuguese invaded it.

  • @phonecianguy
    @phonecianguy 2 месяца назад +4

    india: invade goa
    portugal: let`s start operation cry for help

  • @canuckguy0313
    @canuckguy0313 Год назад +24

    Missed opportunity for the chalkboard at 0:16 to read “imperialists Goa way”

  • @wecandoittrucking
    @wecandoittrucking Год назад +25

    They saved the people that rightly belonged to that land. The Portuguese were literally taking indentured servants, blowing up the city on their way out, and forcing everyone to assimilate. I don't know where you got your infor from my friend..
    (I'm goan btw. My last name, siquiera, comes from the Portuguese )

    • @wecandoittrucking
      @wecandoittrucking Год назад +1

      Info*

    • @iguideotherstoatreasureica3635
      @iguideotherstoatreasureica3635 Год назад +1

      The west as usual white washing their history

    • @kimjong-un5570
      @kimjong-un5570 Год назад +3

      You look European btw , you don’t look Indian 🤨, I visited Goa once and will visit again

    • @archanasingh3806
      @archanasingh3806 Год назад +12

      @@kimjong-un5570 there are people in india who look african some look korean or chinese some look european so i just dont understand what you are implying

    • @kimjong-un5570
      @kimjong-un5570 Год назад +1

      @@archanasingh3806 ya I know , I went to north east India , I know there are different types is people here but she looks European to me , btw I’m from Hyderabad, Telangana 😅

  • @girishmalviya7719
    @girishmalviya7719 5 дней назад +1

    Question is wrong !
    They should ask, "Why did the international community allow the Portuguese to take Goa in first place?"

  • @Tjalve70
    @Tjalve70 Год назад +157

    Really interesting to see this video being released while I am on my first vacation in Goa.

    • @leniobarcelos1770
      @leniobarcelos1770 Год назад +10

      Ask the locals there if they'd rather still be part of Portugal or not. Let us know what they say.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 Год назад

      Quite the coincidence.

    • @chicagotypewriter2094
      @chicagotypewriter2094 Год назад +6

      How do you like Goa so far? (I've heard it's a wonderful place w/ port wine :P)

    • @lxportugal9343
      @lxportugal9343 Год назад

      If you are Indian they may not say it in your face.
      But trust me what he says in the video it's not true.

    • @chinsaw2727
      @chinsaw2727 Год назад +12

      @@leniobarcelos1770I’d imagine if you do that, that would dramatically increase you likelihood of being shanked

  • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
    @Hand-in-Shot_Productions Год назад +377

    I've read a bit about the annexation of Goa, and I assumed that the world's lack of response had something to do with decolonization. Now, I see that this was part of the reason: NATO wasn't interested in defending a dying empire, the USSR welcomed the annexation, and the people of Goa supported India! Thanks for the video!
    Also, the deadline at 0:47 for returning Goa was quite funny!

    • @KenpachiAjax
      @KenpachiAjax Год назад +42

      ofcourse the people of Goa supported India. They were literally Indians.

    • @TomorrowWeLive
      @TomorrowWeLive Год назад +17

      ​@@KenpachiAjax a unified Indian identity, u like other countries, is a modern manufactured thing. Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Burmese were all "Indians" until only fifteen years before 1961.

    • @uthopia27
      @uthopia27 Год назад +5

      @@TomorrowWeLive i dont think pakistan would please to join india dont know about bangladesh but pakistan ??? doubt it ????

    • @piushpaul4880
      @piushpaul4880 Год назад +20

      @@uthopia27 yea, they think they are arabians, but suprisingly they have hindu surnames and even speak indian languages

    • @marcelo55869
      @marcelo55869 Год назад +5

      What do you mean lack of response have to do with decolonization?
      So many colonized countries got their independence though revolutions. Actually I think getting independence through peace is the exception.
      The colonizers would never let go if it was their choice... they were the invaders by force to begin with.

  • @joaofabio5927
    @joaofabio5927 Год назад +19

    Portuguese stubbornness is one of the most powerful forces in the universe

    • @ruicorreia6373
      @ruicorreia6373 Год назад +6

      it kept many a spaniard awake in their sleep over the centuries, that's for sure

    • @adityamuley87
      @adityamuley87 Год назад +8

      That's until an Indian battleship tells them they are about to be fked

    • @greentuga691
      @greentuga691 Год назад +8

      @@puravmodgil2024 Congratulations on beating a 500man garrison with a thousands strong army. Truly an awe inspiring strategic victory that will be learn in all military academys all over the world. The likes of Napoleon and Alexander will forever be overshadowed by the amazing Indian Conquest of Goa. Good job.

    • @adityamuley87
      @adityamuley87 Год назад

      @@Theactualstoic he died like a bitch

    • @cg8397
      @cg8397 Год назад

      ​@Xx_kalisto_xXPortugal's big mistakes were allowing immigration from other states of India to Goa as cheap labour, and not holding a referendum (Goa remains with Portugal, or goes independent).

  • @vidyutdevam9204
    @vidyutdevam9204 10 месяцев назад +2

    Excuse me. India didn’t annex Goa. Portugal annexed goa. India liberated Goa and since then Goa is part of India as it used to be since eons.

  • @francoking3641
    @francoking3641 Год назад +26

    Interestingly, post 1961, all residents of the state of Goa, are [ as long as they renege their Indian citizenship, and the rights attached to that ] entitled to apply for a Portuguese passport. Upon completion of this, those newly-minted Portuguese citizens are entitled to unlimited, and unhindered EU- access.

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn Год назад +8

      Not ALL residents. You need to have a parent or grandparent of Portuguese nationality, or have lived in Portuguese Goa (i.e. before 1961) a specified amount of time. Most countries award nationality to descendants of their own citizens or people who lived within their borders a specified amount of time, this is nothing new.
      It's not something that is automatically given to everyone just because they happen to live there at the moment. That was yet another Brexit scare-tactic myth.

  • @TheSecretAaron
    @TheSecretAaron Год назад +49

    We watched History Matters in AP Euro yesterday and it felt so out of place as I’ve only watched him at home lmao

  • @JJMHigner
    @JJMHigner Год назад +77

    Awesome as usual. Still waiting for a video on why Guantanamo Bay as a military base was not taken over unilaterally by Cuba or why it wasn't used by the United States as an invasion point. What is the nature of the relationship between Cuba and the military base? Why didn't Cuba take over Guantanamo?

    • @mar71n32n0v1lLL0
      @mar71n32n0v1lLL0 Год назад +27

      My best guess is as follows:
      -US: too costly and too little to gain from doing it, other than international condemnation, not that they *really* care about that last thing.
      -Cuba: invade US-claimed territory? Do you want nukes on the side with that?

    • @madshagen5849
      @madshagen5849 Год назад +4

      An extraordinarilly good topic!

    • @HansLemurson
      @HansLemurson Год назад

      Everybody (even the US) acknowledges Guantanamo Bay as sovereign Cuban territory. The US claims they are renting it from Cuba as per a treaty with the pre-Castro government. The US keeps sending rent payment to Cuba which Cuba refuses to accept, wanting the US to GTFO and stop using their land for illegal prisons.

    • @willevensen7130
      @willevensen7130 Год назад

      Cuba can’t really do anything about it the US doesn’t really care. There’s your answer

    • @JJMHigner
      @JJMHigner Год назад +7

      @@mar71n32n0v1lLL0 good point but there are other scenarios that could have occurred. Also, if the United States already had a base there could pressure have been exerted from that point across the island? It's just that throughout the entire Cuban Missile Crisis topic that military base and now military base / prison is not mentioned at all. Just curious as to how that is