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the saddest part is that if you look at surprisingly modern history, you have stories of African-Americans not getting a fair trial and other mistreatments on a basic level, and then the supreme court ends up having to benchslap the states saying no, 14th amendment anyone? Prime example. Some states had repealed/struck down miscegenation laws that banned interracial marriage, California in 1948, Perez v Sharp, and Ohio repealing in 1887, yet some states like Virginia got benchslapped in Loving vs Virginia. The state didn't come to its senses, no it had to be told to come to their senses. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia#/media/File:US_miscegenation.svg
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Still doing it. A few comments make me sick. Thank God for my native bloodline as it is a good spirit. No peace in white cultures as even family member are like cheese and chalk. White cult loves to punish me more then the native one. Why is it so? At times I may upset every colour. I was born. I ask God why? It not easy. Press button Murdoch does concern me. Anyway in spite of the odds I am still here. Stay safe and strong.
@@iammrbeat under Trump involuntary confinements are highest in history. Washington DC is treasonous and fraudulent. How can a bankrupted white supremacy cult bring loving peace and recovery for all people. Besides those creeps been having each way bets and funding both sides of war. So who is the enemy? So much unnatural behaviour and toxic mindsets. The release of virus was a step too far and now the whole globe are not going let it to keep on going for another few hundred years.
It's still just absolutely blows my mind that one of the girls openly admitted and testified in court that she had made up the accusation and that the crime they were accused of didn't even happen, and they still gave them a guilty verdict.
And most women would never admit that. You know what the most common reason for lynching was? Accusations of rape. This shit happened a LOT and usually didn't go well. And to this day, "protecting white femininity from the savages" is a common conservative trope.
I think it’s cause she was bought some new clothes by the Communist Party of the USA who also provided the lawyer, which was enough for them (the jury) to dismiss her.
The state of Alabama ruined the lives of these boys. This video presented the case perfectly, but I'm red from anger after viewing it. I hope that young people of color are inspired by this video to become lawyers so that we can have the representation to fight back a tradition of injustice.
Yeah, this is like To Kill a Mockingbird in real life, but with kids and with the same decision being made multiple times. Also, it shocked me that the death penalty was so common in Alabama, that someone NOT getting the death penalty was considered a landmark.
@@geobeeblaster5602 It’s a lot easier to send thousands of volts through someone than keep them alive in prison, and also the public was a lot less keen on sparing criminals
lol... America is still ruining black kids lives due to massive income inequality and how resources are divide up... but the USA always has a billion dollars to give to Ukraine or Israel. Blacks should move to better countries because the USA is a lost cause for black people unless you can play sports or the entertainment business.
Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial" Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial* Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial" Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial* Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial" Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial* You get the picture
@@diturner7247 a lot of people will hide behind the phrase "states' rights" when they really want do something unpopular or unfair Example: "The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about states' rights!" ...but the right they wanted was to keep slaves.
Five things, eh? 1. I went in deep researching this video, and it easily could have been twice as long. While the story of the Scottsboro Boys is fascinating, tragic and must be remembered, it also got me thinking about all of the victims in similar circumstances who were not remembered simply because the media never paid the same attention. 2. Thanks to my sponsor Ampeduplearning, who are fellow social studies teachers trying to make a living on the side with a wonderful resource. And since we all know how much teachers make, it'd be extra special if you checked out their site. 3. A special shout out to my student in real life John, who restored and colorized old photographs of some of the Scottsboro Boys for this video. 4. This video is demonetized since I talk about rape. 5. My Discord server link: discord.gg/waK44fH
It is easy to think of things that happen before you were born as being long in the past. I used to think that Martin Luther King Jr being assassinated was a long time ago when in fact it was only 9 years before I was born. It is possible that some of the jurors involved in these trials or retrials are still alive today (and have hopefully changed for the better). We have come a long way but we are not that far away from crazy ass times like this. I wonder what people 50 years from now will say about us.
I do moderately worry how people will perceive my videos in 50 years. Then again, that's assuming they're still around. I even cringe when I watch clips of politicians from ten years ago.
@@iammrbeat Although, as Dr. Tom "Cool" Mccool used to say: "Judge them by their times, their morals, their knowledge, their society, and advancement. And do not repeat their mistakes. Someday, history will judge you. Hope that it is kind." History will likely be kind to Mr Beat. The rest of us? I do not know.
I'm not sure when exactly I read it, I just know I read it. Plus I always been ahead in my grade. I even read Stephen King's the Stand uncut version back in middle school
I really don't like it honestly, it's a classic white savior narrative and there are better alternatives out there to look at these issues from a middle school or high school perspective.
A truly but sad story, indeed Mr. Beat. I have a documentary about the Scottsboro boys from PBS. It remains one of the great injustices in American history. Most of the boys led troubled lives. But Clarence Norris led a good life and was pardoned. Judge Horton was certain that in his belief that the boys did not receive a fair trial, and did not get reelected. It was awfully sad about the boys and their treatment in jail. Leibowitz, the lawyer for the defense, fought like Perry Mason and Clarence Darrow. He wasn't going to back down. Reasons why we have due process under the law. Nice job, Mr. Beat.
Thank you. Yeah I left out mentioning Liebowitz, a Jewish Northerner who also had to be protected during the trials as there were several death threats aimed at him. Thanks for the great comment :D
@@iammrbeat It seems the Scottsboro Boys weren't the only ones to be victims of prejudice. It was the same way with their lawyer, Samuel Leibowitz, who, as you pointed out, was a Jew and a Northerner (from New York City, to be precise). During the retrial, Leibowitz was often referred to by the bigoted locals of Alabama (and even by the local press) as "the New York Jew n****r lover." When he called Ruby Bates, one of the alleged "victims," to the witness stand to testify that neither she nor her friend, Victoria Price, had been raped, the prosecutor made much of the fact that Miss Bates was wearing fancy clothes and suggested that she had been bribed by Leibowitz to recant her previous testimony implicating the defendants. As if to make matters worse, the prosecutor, in his closing statement to the jury, told them to show that "Alabama justice can't be bought with Jew money from New York." Not surprisingly, the jury returned a "guilty" verdict and a recommendation for the death penalty. Fortunately, Judge Horton was brave enough to set the jury's decision aside on the grounds that the accused didn't receive a fair trial. A couple of footnotes about Samuel Leibowitz. He was well-known, especially in New York City, as one of the most brilliant lawyers in the United States, specializing in murder cases which often involved notorious gangsters. One of his clients was the infamous Vincent "Mad Dog" Coll, whom he successfully defended when he was accused of accidentally killing a child in an attempt to murder a rival hoodlum. Of all the murder cases he defended, Leibowitz only lost one of them (his client in that case went to the electric chair). In the early 1940s, when Leibowitz ran on the Democratic Party ticket for the seat of a local judge, his Republican Party enemies warned New Yorkers that he would turn every criminal in town loose. But, incredibly enough, just the opposite happened. Leibowitz became known as a "hanging judge" who sentenced more convicted murderers to death than any other judge in the "Big Apple." One of the most noticable cases that came before him was that of Jerry "The Jew" Rosenberg, who, in 1962, was convicted, along with a companion, of killing two undercover policemen during an armed robbery, a crime that they insisted that they didn't commit. The case became notorious because it was the first double cop-killing incident in many years. While awaiting execution, Rosenberg became something of a jailhouse lawyer, and somehow managed to get the death sentences against him and his co-defendant overturned on a legal technicality, and then commuted to life imprisonment. Rosenberg became well-known for representing other prison inmates, including several who were involved in the Attica Prison Riot in 1971, during which he acted as a hostage negotiator. Rosenberg would later write about his experiences in his autobiography, "Doing Life," in which he continued to deny involvement in the death of the two policemen. His book was made into a TV movie with Tony Danza ("Taxi," "Who's The Boss") as Rosenberg, who died in prison many years later. How ironic that Jerry Rosenberg was originally sentenced to death in the electric chair for a crime that he vigorously denied by Judge Samuel Leibowitz, who, as a lawyer, SAVED many defendants from the electric chair, including the Scottsboro Boys, who also just as vigorously denied the rape charges that put them on death row. (They eventually ended up serving long prison sentences.)
Man after watching Netflix series “When They See Us” it’s given me a curiosity to look at other cases where people of color have been framed and dehumanized.... thanks for the lesson 👌🏽
Google Central Park 5, Murder on A Sunday Morning, Englewood 4, Dixmoor 5, Jeffrey Mark Deskovic, Ford Heights Four, Groveland Four, The Career Girls Murders, George Whitmore, Jr, Harlem Six, Trenton Six, Brown v. Mississippi, Scottsboro Boys, Duke lacrosse case, Richard Jewell, Michael Crowe, Rolando Cruz, Juan Rivera and Norfolk 4 same story bias, criminal, unethical, lazy, corrupt and incompetent police, prosecutor, judge.
There's a lot of evil in this story, but one of the main evils which a lot of people ignore are the women who lied about being raped. The fact there is basically no punish for that, even if it can be throughly proven to be a lie, is atrocious. If you get definitively caught lying about a major crime then you should get the punishment you tried to inflict on a innocent person.
What about the system that allows something like this to happen at all? The women with the false accusations were small fry. The unjust, unequal, and racist system that operated on prejudice is the main evil. If the system was just, those women would've been tried and convicted, but they're white, and the accused are black, so they're off the hook. Stop focusing on the insignificant aspects of such direct case.
@@ThaoNguyen-yb6xq Not really, I'd rather disincentive the false accusation happening in the first place. You can scrutinize a false story, you can say there isn't enough evidence for a conviction, but an accusation can damage a reputation even if you are found completely innocent.
I feel that this has to be one of the saddest stories of American history that I have heard yet I have a depressing thought that horrible things like this occurred many times.
Are there black people living there currently cuz if so they are dumb! 🤦🏾♀️ My thing why do we continue to let it happen?!!! Shouldn’t they be in the very same jail they are trying to throw black people in?
I'm late to the party but I actually had to do research on this case during my Historical Inquiry class(I'm a History major) my first semester at the college I'm currently at, for a Moot Court thing we did. I'm glad that I got lucky with which side I was given. My group had the defense in this case and the prosecution side against the murderers of Emmitt Till. Both cases just make you sick, we've truly come a long way regarding race relations in this country
@@iammrbeat Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't them. It both sickens and saddens me that they ruined these boys' lives only because they were black. The fact that there was ever a time where that was considered just by a large population indicates how long 100 years can be in terms of equal rights. Makes me think about what the blind spots we as a society have that 100 years from now, people are going to think, how did they ever think that was okay?
Despite all the horrible injustice it is comforting to know that there were people who were willing to stand against it, even if it cost them their job.
Yes, he did have a massive change of heart after an assassination attempt was made on him in 1972. He even asked for forgiveness from those he had wronged. Mr. Beat goes into more detail about it in his “ Top 10 Worst American Governors” video.
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Having grown up in the Alabama educational system AND having to read To Kill A Mockingbird in high school, it blows my mind that this video was the first time I heard about the book being at least partially based on the Scottsboro boys.
Mr. Beat, you're channel is freaking awesome. I have some suggestions for your nest supreme court video. you could do: United States v. Nixon Clinton v. Jones Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Planned Parenthood v. Casey Miller v. California Roper v. Simmons New Jersey v. T. L. O. Lee v. Weisman Shelby County v. Holder Hamdan v. Rumsfeld Im sorry for being so demanding but i feel like this series is not only awesome and entertaining but it could introduce a lot of young people to law. all of these cases are vastly different but hold so much relevance and it would mean a lot to see you takes on them
The road I take to work everyday runs right along the train tracks this all started on and I’ve lived in the area my whole life. I’ve never once heard of this.
and today Southern states still are holding inmates without charging them. Thousands have been "accidentally" incarcerated for much longer than their sentences
Wow brother I love these videos. Makes me appreciate how far we have come in the judicial system. I also appreciate my fellow Americans fighting for civil rights back in those days.
I think I remember reading that the people involved in securing the accused were so proud of themselves for resisting the lynch mob and ensuring legal justice. My favorite thing about your USSC case videos is the visual graphic of how the votes fell. It's super easy to understand and memorable!
Awesome video. New sub, I'm curious on your thoughts on why someone would thumb down a historical video? Am i asking a obvious question? Excellent series.
As someone from North Alabama, this case is surprisingly (or not surprisingly considering it's Alabama) swept under the rug. None of our history books mentioned this case, and I didn't learn about this case until my 11th grade history teacher put on a documentary about it on a random day in class. I've been to Scottsboro many times, and I don't remember there being a single historical marker indicating that this case ever happened there. The only thing I noticed that mentioned the Scottsboro Boys there was a mural of them on the side of a bank in the downtown square.
Very fascinating and tragic. I would love to see a 12 hour miniseries being made about this story, because it will take a lot more than a 2 hour movie to explain this story.
They wrote a musical about this case. It's called "The Scottsboro Boys," naturally. I haven't ever seen it, but I hear it's pretty good. [Edit: This is why you don't comment before watching till the end.]
I'm from Birmingham, never been to Scottsboro. Closest I've been to there is Huntsville and that's like an hour from there 🤷🏾♂️ I always said I wanted to see what was up there tho
I knew some of the southern states had a despicable history but this has really shocked me. I had no idea the racism had corrupted their legal system as well. The grandsons and grand daughters of the people who did this should be hanging their heads in shame rather than claiming statues and flags are part of their heritage. I think Lincoln made a big mistake trying to preserve the Union, these states should have been cast out as unworthy of being part of the USA.
Oh it gets worse, the fact the state national guard protected the jail wasn't a throw away line there were plenty of lynching in cases the never got to trial because they were handed over to the mob.
I wouldn't want an empire of evil in the Americas who wanted to expand southward to increase slavery! Before the Civil War Southern states wanted to expand and some created the so-called Knights of the Golden Circle in order to annex land to be admitted as slave states in order to pack the Congress in favor of the South, but during the Civil War that changed and the Golden Circle was to increase the power of the Confederate States of America. Filibusters were more than happy to do that! Now, while it was wrong of the federal government to permit Jim Crow even while the 13th, 14th, & 15th amendments were already part of the Constitution and Congress wanted to pass a Civil Rights Act not too long after that in order to protect those rights, the Courts and a dirty deal ended all hope for a fair society after the Civil War in the South. People were just tired on both sides of the war as well as Reconstruction and many thought the amendments were enough and the states would protect their own people's rights as was the thought back in those days, it of course wasn't ever the case and in reality many even those that cared about African-Americans (even some African-Americans themselves) thought Separate but Equal was the right call.
WOW I lived in Huntsville, Alabama during my high school years. This was a major event in North Alabama/Tennessee Valley. TBH after 8 minutes into this video (which I love History) I feel sick in my stomach from the inhumanity!
I live in Scottsburo and just discovered this… Yikes! Glad to see things have come a long way since then. Still not perfect sadly, but definitely significant progress.
You should do Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections. I see many people think that poll taxes were completely eliminate by the 24th Amendment, but that one only made it unconstitutional for federal elections NOT state and/or local elections. I don't know why it couldn't be done all with one amendment, but oh well!
I’ll just put the decisions Decision 1: 7-2 in favor of Powell (Butler, McReynolds for Alabama.) Decision 2: 8-0 in favor of Norris Decision 3: 8-0 in favor of Patterson
80 years later doesn't fruckin matter. I cant fruckin believe this,,, I'm so upset by this case... I am so very upset. And something like this CAN and STILL happens in the US. Equality... all we want is equality. To be treated fairly without prejudice
I feel like the Supreme Court miss their opportunity to end Jim Crow with this case by using the 14th to end racially decided trials that sometime still go on today
The bank/law merchant are still operating in this fashion today. Stop buying back your rights through court process, the attorney is your adversary, any way you slice it. Nice job researching and presentment in this video.
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INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY is one of the most important foundation in the justice system never forget this.
Preach!
Except for traffic tickets.
@@QuixoteX we can agree on that.
Beccaria is spinning in his grave right now
*"There is Little To No Justice"*
1. In our justice system
2. Suspects have more rights then victims.
I was dumbfounded when I found out about this story. The Supreme Court saying that the boys deserved a fair trail and Alabama did exactly the opposite
And time and time again. The fact that Haywood Patterson got an all-white jury THE FOURTH FREAKING TIME HE GOT A TRIAL was shocking.
the saddest part is that if you look at surprisingly modern history, you have stories of African-Americans not getting a fair trial and other mistreatments on a basic level, and then the supreme court ends up having to benchslap the states saying no, 14th amendment anyone? Prime example. Some states had repealed/struck down miscegenation laws that banned interracial marriage, California in 1948, Perez v Sharp, and Ohio repealing in 1887, yet some states like Virginia got benchslapped in Loving vs Virginia. The state didn't come to its senses, no it had to be told to come to their senses.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia#/media/File:US_miscegenation.svg
Americans don’t like to hear it but : state’s rights baby.
@@ilikedota5 as Matt mentioned in the episode on Loving vs Virginia about the dramatisation of the story behind that case in the film "Loving," which I have convinced my family to watch
@@frankw3213. You don’t like to hear it but : 6th AMENDMENT BABY!!!
The “E” in Alabama stands for “equality”.
The A, L, A, B, A, M, and A in Alabama stands for Alabama
Pretty sure Alabama is far better tham the best "black country" for black people in almost every measure.
@@josephang9927 Obviously that’s how the global North/South divide works. That doesn’t mean anything in the context of my comment.
@@josephang9927 damn, and the racism still persists. Good job, bud
"But there's no 'E' in Alabohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......"
Imagine the Mental Trauma & PTSD from such events at the early forming age.
Meanwhile the outside people all want to kill them.
Based on my research, the older ones came out better mentally than the younger ones.
Still doing it. A few comments make me sick. Thank God for my native bloodline as it is a good spirit. No peace in white cultures as even family member are like cheese and chalk. White cult loves to punish me more then the native one. Why is it so? At times I may upset every colour. I was born. I ask God why? It not easy. Press button Murdoch does concern me. Anyway in spite of the odds I am still here. Stay safe and strong.
@@iammrbeat under Trump involuntary confinements are highest in history. Washington DC is treasonous and fraudulent. How can a bankrupted white supremacy cult bring loving peace and recovery for all people. Besides those creeps been having each way bets and funding both sides of war. So who is the enemy? So much unnatural behaviour and toxic mindsets. The release of virus was a step too far and now the whole globe are not going let it to keep on going for another few hundred years.
I think PTSD is wrong in this case, it’s specifically trauma that you experience after shocks.
That fact that George fricking Wallace is the most morally sound person aside from the accused in the story really says something.
The supreme court too.
And The cops that stopped them from being lynched
And the Communist Party
To his credit, Wallace sought to atone for his prior evils later in life.
@@Kaddywompous he still deserved no respect. He shouldn't have been the way he was, it's hard to forgive when it affected a lot of lives back then.
It's still just absolutely blows my mind that one of the girls openly admitted and testified in court that she had made up the accusation and that the crime they were accused of didn't even happen, and they still gave them a guilty verdict.
And most women would never admit that. You know what the most common reason for lynching was? Accusations of rape.
This shit happened a LOT and usually didn't go well. And to this day, "protecting white femininity from the savages" is a common conservative trope.
This is America 😞😞😞it's still happening just not as open
I think it’s cause she was bought some new clothes by the Communist Party of the USA who also provided the lawyer, which was enough for them (the jury) to dismiss her.
The state of Alabama ruined the lives of these boys. This video presented the case perfectly, but I'm red from anger after viewing it. I hope that young people of color are inspired by this video to become lawyers so that we can have the representation to fight back a tradition of injustice.
YES!
Yeah, this is like To Kill a Mockingbird in real life, but with kids and with the same decision being made multiple times. Also, it shocked me that the death penalty was so common in Alabama, that someone NOT getting the death penalty was considered a landmark.
@@geobeeblaster5602 It’s a lot easier to send thousands of volts through someone than keep them alive in prison, and also the public was a lot less keen on sparing criminals
No mention of the two rape liars? The type of people the "believe the victim" mob today would blindly support again, no question asked
lol... America is still ruining black kids lives due to massive income inequality and how resources are divide up... but the USA always has a billion dollars to give to Ukraine or Israel. Blacks should move to better countries because the USA is a lost cause for black people unless you can play sports or the entertainment business.
Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial"
Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial*
Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial"
Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial*
Supreme Court: "You need to give them a fair trial"
Alabama: "Okay" *doesn't give them a fair trial*
You get the picture
BUT MY STATES RIGHTS TO DENY THEM A FAIR TRIAL
@@boromirtheblasted883 what are you saying?
@@diturner7247 a lot of people will hide behind the phrase "states' rights" when they really want do something unpopular or unfair
Example: "The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about states' rights!" ...but the right they wanted was to keep slaves.
@@mistermiles3271Storm Thurmond used those same “state rights” to defend segregation too
@@diturner7247 I think he was being sarcastic.
Five things, eh?
1. I went in deep researching this video, and it easily could have been twice as long. While the story of the Scottsboro Boys is fascinating, tragic and must be remembered, it also got me thinking about all of the victims in similar circumstances who were not remembered simply because the media never paid the same attention.
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the demonetization is sad
A fantastic video, despite the most unfair demonetization. We still have a ways to go, eh?
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why should it be remembered?
It is easy to think of things that happen before you were born as being long in the past. I used to think that Martin Luther King Jr being assassinated was a long time ago when in fact it was only 9 years before I was born. It is possible that some of the jurors involved in these trials or retrials are still alive today (and have hopefully changed for the better). We have come a long way but we are not that far away from crazy ass times like this. I wonder what people 50 years from now will say about us.
I do moderately worry how people will perceive my videos in 50 years. Then again, that's assuming they're still around. I even cringe when I watch clips of politicians from ten years ago.
@@iammrbeat Although, as Dr. Tom "Cool" Mccool used to say: "Judge them by their times, their morals, their knowledge, their society, and advancement. And do not repeat their mistakes. Someday, history will judge you. Hope that it is kind." History will likely be kind to Mr Beat. The rest of us? I do not know.
i'm a fan of To Kill a Mockingbird, mostly for what it stands against racism. So it was interesting to hear of a case that inspired it.
I am so glad English teachers force high schoolers to read it every year. :D
I'm not sure when exactly I read it, I just know I read it. Plus I always been ahead in my grade. I even read Stephen King's the Stand uncut version back in middle school
@@iammrbeat yeah I’ve been subbed for a while and got an assignment on this video xd
I really don't like it honestly, it's a classic white savior narrative and there are better alternatives out there to look at these issues from a middle school or high school perspective.
@@iammrbeat Read that Freshman year. Excellent book. Depressing as fuck.
A truly but sad story, indeed Mr. Beat. I have a documentary about the Scottsboro boys from PBS. It remains one of the great injustices in American history. Most of the boys led troubled lives. But Clarence Norris led a good life and was pardoned. Judge Horton was certain that in his belief that the boys did not receive a fair trial, and did not get reelected. It was awfully sad about the boys and their treatment in jail. Leibowitz, the lawyer for the defense, fought like Perry Mason and Clarence Darrow. He wasn't going to back down. Reasons why we have due process under the law. Nice job, Mr. Beat.
Thank you. Yeah I left out mentioning Liebowitz, a Jewish Northerner who also had to be protected during the trials as there were several death threats aimed at him. Thanks for the great comment :D
@@iammrbeat you're welcome.
@@iammrbeat
It seems the Scottsboro Boys weren't the only ones to be victims of prejudice. It was the same way with their lawyer, Samuel Leibowitz, who, as you pointed out, was a Jew and a Northerner (from New York City, to be precise).
During the retrial, Leibowitz was often referred to by the bigoted locals of Alabama (and even by the local press) as "the New York Jew n****r lover." When he called Ruby Bates, one of the alleged "victims," to the witness stand to testify that neither she nor her friend, Victoria Price, had been raped, the prosecutor made much of the fact that Miss Bates was wearing fancy clothes and suggested that she had been bribed by Leibowitz to recant her previous testimony implicating the defendants. As if to make matters worse, the prosecutor, in his closing statement to the jury, told them to show that "Alabama justice can't be bought with Jew money from New York." Not surprisingly, the jury returned a "guilty" verdict and a recommendation for the death penalty. Fortunately, Judge Horton was brave enough to set the jury's decision aside on the grounds that the accused didn't receive a fair trial.
A couple of footnotes about Samuel Leibowitz. He was well-known, especially in New York City, as one of the most brilliant lawyers in the United States, specializing in murder cases which often involved notorious gangsters. One of his clients was the infamous Vincent "Mad Dog" Coll, whom he successfully defended when he was accused of accidentally killing a child in an attempt to murder a rival hoodlum. Of all the murder cases he defended, Leibowitz only lost one of them (his client in that case went to the electric chair).
In the early 1940s, when Leibowitz ran on the Democratic Party ticket for the seat of a local judge, his Republican Party enemies warned New Yorkers that he would turn every criminal in town loose. But, incredibly enough, just the opposite happened. Leibowitz became known as a "hanging judge" who sentenced more convicted murderers to death than any other judge in the "Big Apple."
One of the most noticable cases that came before him was that of Jerry "The Jew" Rosenberg, who, in 1962, was convicted, along with a companion, of killing two undercover policemen during an armed robbery, a crime that they insisted that they didn't commit. The case became notorious because it was the first double cop-killing incident in many years.
While awaiting execution, Rosenberg became something of a jailhouse lawyer, and somehow managed to get the death sentences against him and his co-defendant overturned on a legal technicality, and then commuted to life imprisonment.
Rosenberg became well-known for representing other prison inmates, including several who were involved in the Attica Prison Riot in 1971, during which he acted as a hostage negotiator.
Rosenberg would later write about his experiences in his autobiography, "Doing Life," in which he continued to deny involvement in the death of the two policemen. His book was made into a TV movie with Tony Danza ("Taxi," "Who's The Boss") as Rosenberg, who died in prison many years later.
How ironic that Jerry Rosenberg was originally sentenced to death in the electric chair for a crime that he vigorously denied by Judge Samuel Leibowitz, who, as a lawyer, SAVED many defendants from the electric chair, including the Scottsboro Boys, who also just as vigorously denied the rape charges that put them on death row. (They eventually ended up serving long prison sentences.)
Man after watching Netflix series “When They See Us” it’s given me a curiosity to look at other cases where people of color have been framed and dehumanized.... thanks for the lesson 👌🏽
Now hold on a second why are they still accused of rape if the „victim“ testimonied that nobody has been ever raped??? Doesn’t make any sense!!!
This lets me with really a bad mix of sadness and anger... anyway great video to let a concrete footprint in the actual society
@@s9busisee992 same with me. I get a bit sad but more angry for the many injustices that happened during that time.
Because it was never about justice - it was about lynching black people.
If I remember correctly, one of the two women still claimed she was raped
The mindset they had was "they probably did it". They would charge them of every crime under the sun if they could.
this reminds me of the "central park five"
Christian Weibrecht I’m sure this happened first which is crazy.
It’s like Things never change
Christian, history has a way of repeating itself.
Google Central Park 5, Murder on A Sunday Morning, Englewood 4, Dixmoor 5, Jeffrey Mark Deskovic, Ford Heights Four, Groveland Four, The Career Girls Murders, George Whitmore, Jr, Harlem Six, Trenton Six, Brown v. Mississippi, Scottsboro Boys, Duke lacrosse case, Richard Jewell, Michael Crowe, Rolando Cruz, Juan Rivera and Norfolk 4 same story bias, criminal, unethical, lazy, corrupt and incompetent police, prosecutor, judge.
Christian Weibrecht ikr
Not much has changed...
Awesome Video. Had it not been for you, I'd never have known. Thank You Mr. Beat!
Thank you! :D
There's a lot of evil in this story, but one of the main evils which a lot of people ignore are the women who lied about being raped. The fact there is basically no punish for that, even if it can be throughly proven to be a lie, is atrocious. If you get definitively caught lying about a major crime then you should get the punishment you tried to inflict on a innocent person.
100 years later and there's still no punishment for false rape accusations
It’s a tricky thing. The last thing I would want to do is disincentivize someone from coming clean about a false accusation they made.
@@Kaddywompous That is actually a good point to consider.
What about the system that allows something like this to happen at all? The women with the false accusations were small fry. The unjust, unequal, and racist system that operated on prejudice is the main evil. If the system was just, those women would've been tried and convicted, but they're white, and the accused are black, so they're off the hook. Stop focusing on the insignificant aspects of such direct case.
@@ThaoNguyen-yb6xq Not really, I'd rather disincentive the false accusation happening in the first place. You can scrutinize a false story, you can say there isn't enough evidence for a conviction, but an accusation can damage a reputation even if you are found completely innocent.
I am from Decatur, AL, where the second trial took place, and we were never taught this case in school. Horrifying. Thanks for sharing.
Another great deep dive! Good job!
Thank you! :D
That was a bit depressing but informative.. y'all have a great memorial weekend..cheers
You too!
I feel that this has to be one of the saddest stories of American history that I have heard yet I have a depressing thought that horrible things like this occurred many times.
As someone from Scottsboro I can undoubtedly say that, things haven't changed much.
Having family in Scottsboro, and spending time there and in North Alabama in general, you're not wrong.
The sentiments probably haven't, but at least the court systems have
Are there black people living there currently cuz if so they are dumb! 🤦🏾♀️ My thing why do we continue to let it happen?!!! Shouldn’t they be in the very same jail they are trying to throw black people in?
You really still have such rampant racism as to form lynch mobs out there?
I'm late to the party but I actually had to do research on this case during my Historical Inquiry class(I'm a History major) my first semester at the college I'm currently at, for a Moot Court thing we did. I'm glad that I got lucky with which side I was given. My group had the defense in this case and the prosecution side against the murderers of Emmitt Till. Both cases just make you sick, we've truly come a long way regarding race relations in this country
Oh boy, the other side indeed would be difficult
@@iammrbeat Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't them. It both sickens and saddens me that they ruined these boys' lives only because they were black. The fact that there was ever a time where that was considered just by a large population indicates how long 100 years can be in terms of equal rights. Makes me think about what the blind spots we as a society have that 100 years from now, people are going to think, how did they ever think that was okay?
LOL "wE HAve CoMe A LoNg WaAy" No we HAVENT... America IS STILL TRASH!
Good video as always!
Thank you!
Despite all the horrible injustice it is comforting to know that there were people who were willing to stand against it, even if it cost them their job.
Pretty incredible that George Wallace of all people was the one who pardoned the last boy. Did he have a change of heart?
Yes, he did have a massive change of heart after an assassination attempt was made on him in 1972. He even asked for forgiveness from those he had wronged. Mr. Beat goes into more detail about it in his “ Top 10 Worst American Governors” video.
Wow!! Ironically things are not very different today
The justice system is indeed still messed up.
This wasn't even 100 years ago. I hope that gives us all scope.
WOOP WOOP SUPREME COURT BRIEFS IS BAAAAACK WOOP WOOP! (This is excitement is for the new episode of Supreme Court Briefs, not the subject matter which is obviously very sad and upsetting). Can't wait for more!
Ha! Yes I knew what you meant. Glad you like this series. :)
Do Dennis vs. United States about US communist witch hunting during the cold war.
I forgot about that case!
4:05 considering communists have been historically helpful to marginalized groups, it makes sense
I knew I should not have watched this video. It makes me incredibly sad the injustices that African-Americans have suffered in the United States.
Wish I could go back into a time machine and kick some ass
I'll get the DeLorean & shotguns!
excellent work.✌🏾💯
Thanks :D
Alot of info in a short, sweet time. Thank you.
This case reminds me of the more recent case of the Central Park 5. Some things change, and some things remain the same.
Having grown up in the Alabama educational system AND having to read To Kill A Mockingbird in high school, it blows my mind that this video was the first time I heard about the book being at least partially based on the Scottsboro boys.
Unfortunately, the judicial system can still back rough on us black folks. We still have problems of less diverse jury pools and selections.
Unless youre OJ
Innocent until proven guilty is sacred. Its a shame that we're rejecting it.
Excellent presentation Mr. Beat
Mr. Beat, you're channel is freaking awesome. I have some suggestions for your nest supreme court video. you could do:
United States v. Nixon
Clinton v. Jones
Burwell v. Hobby Lobby
Planned Parenthood v. Casey
Miller v. California
Roper v. Simmons
New Jersey v. T. L. O.
Lee v. Weisman
Shelby County v. Holder
Hamdan v. Rumsfeld
Im sorry for being so demanding but i feel like this series is not only awesome and entertaining but it could introduce a lot of young people to law. all of these cases are vastly different but hold so much relevance and it would mean a lot to see you takes on them
The “E” in Alabama stands for “equality”.. The “E” in Alabama stands for “equality”..
How?! How???? How do these people just get away with this
I have never heard of this but is a intresting story
The road I take to work everyday runs right along the train tracks this all started on and I’ve lived in the area my whole life. I’ve never once heard of this.
When someone says "Make America Great Again"
Ahhhhhh yes the TKAM book case.
This whole case is bull crap, those boys were innocent and was found guilty because of racist jury.
Not to mention how the girl came out and admited to them lying about rape and the boys were still charge!
Thank you so much for this video!
Thank you for all your SCOTUS videos - love them!
What a tragic story. A system can’t fail you of it was designed to obliterate you.
and today Southern states still are holding inmates without charging them. Thousands have been "accidentally" incarcerated for much longer than their sentences
Wow brother I love these videos. Makes me appreciate how far we have come in the judicial system. I also appreciate my fellow Americans fighting for civil rights back in those days.
This just shows how injustice in 1931 was practiced in Scottboro, Alabama. That's sad 😔.
The longest video in Supreme Court Briefs
I think I remember reading that the people involved in securing the accused were so proud of themselves for resisting the lynch mob and ensuring legal justice.
My favorite thing about your USSC case videos is the visual graphic of how the votes fell. It's super easy to understand and memorable!
"He claimed he could light a cigarette off a quickly moving [train]"
That's some action movie nonsense, I love it lmao
Great example on why the death penalty should be abolished.
And nothing fundamental has changed about the court system since this case.
Awesome video. New sub, I'm curious on your thoughts on why someone would thumb down a historical video? Am i asking a obvious question? Excellent series.
Feel so sorry for these guys. They were innocent and still got screwed by the legal justice system. What kind of justice system is this?
As someone from North Alabama, this case is surprisingly (or not surprisingly considering it's Alabama) swept under the rug. None of our history books mentioned this case, and I didn't learn about this case until my 11th grade history teacher put on a documentary about it on a random day in class. I've been to Scottsboro many times, and I don't remember there being a single historical marker indicating that this case ever happened there. The only thing I noticed that mentioned the Scottsboro Boys there was a mural of them on the side of a bank in the downtown square.
I don't understand why some people don't want historical information like this to be in library books.
Very fascinating and tragic. I would love to see a 12 hour miniseries being made about this story, because it will take a lot more than a 2 hour movie to explain this story.
Wow. That was depressing.
Thanks!
I appreciate your support!
Will you consider doing a video about forgotten historical figures? Like, I don't know, George Drouillard.
Sure
And some people are actually surprised about BLM.
Love SC brief videos!
Good to know!
Can you do a video on Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission? Can you deny service to someone that goes against your views?
Every time I hear a retelling of a historical trial I think “that would make one hell of an ace attorney case”
Excellent video
They all got front row in heaven
god this gave me horrible shivers. I just---wow. I can't.
This video makes me so angry
Just cause of the blatant racism and hardship these men went through
Same
Very interesting story 👍
They wrote a musical about this case. It's called "The Scottsboro Boys," naturally. I haven't ever seen it, but I hear it's pretty good. [Edit: This is why you don't comment before watching till the end.]
Wait was it the CPUSA or the International Labor Defence(ILD)?
I'm from Birmingham, never been to Scottsboro. Closest I've been to there is Huntsville and that's like an hour from there 🤷🏾♂️ I always said I wanted to see what was up there tho
I knew some of the southern states had a despicable history but this has really shocked me. I had no idea the racism had corrupted their legal system as well. The grandsons and grand daughters of the people who did this should be hanging their heads in shame rather than claiming statues and flags are part of their heritage. I think Lincoln made a big mistake trying to preserve the Union, these states should have been cast out as unworthy of being part of the USA.
Oh it gets worse, the fact the state national guard protected the jail wasn't a throw away line there were plenty of lynching in cases the never got to trial because they were handed over to the mob.
I wouldn't want an empire of evil in the Americas who wanted to expand southward to increase slavery! Before the Civil War Southern states wanted to expand and some created the so-called Knights of the Golden Circle in order to annex land to be admitted as slave states in order to pack the Congress in favor of the South, but during the Civil War that changed and the Golden Circle was to increase the power of the Confederate States of America. Filibusters were more than happy to do that!
Now, while it was wrong of the federal government to permit Jim Crow even while the 13th, 14th, & 15th amendments were already part of the Constitution and Congress wanted to pass a Civil Rights Act not too long after that in order to protect those rights, the Courts and a dirty deal ended all hope for a fair society after the Civil War in the South. People were just tired on both sides of the war as well as Reconstruction and many thought the amendments were enough and the states would protect their own people's rights as was the thought back in those days, it of course wasn't ever the case and in reality many even those that cared about African-Americans (even some African-Americans themselves) thought Separate but Equal was the right call.
its really crazy how just comuting one day as an African American could end your entire life and ruin everything.
WOW I lived in Huntsville, Alabama during my high school years. This was a major event in North Alabama/Tennessee Valley. TBH after 8 minutes into this video (which I love History) I feel sick in my stomach from the inhumanity!
How eerily similar this is to the central park five case
Man this is do sad. And people have the guts to racism isn't a thing.
This why my mom says never forget the past but learn from it
Hope you are safe from the tornados.
I am. One was close to our neighborhood, though. Thanks for thinking about me. :)
I live in Scottsburo and just discovered this… Yikes! Glad to see things have come a long way since then. Still not perfect sadly, but definitely significant progress.
This seems a little similar to Brown v. Mississippi
You should do Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections. I see many people think that poll taxes were completely eliminate by the 24th Amendment, but that one only made it unconstitutional for federal elections NOT state and/or local elections. I don't know why it couldn't be done all with one amendment, but oh well!
And now, with Shinn v. Ramirez, the standard of "guilty until proven innocent" is back.
Wow just watching this video and seeing how they all met their fate made me shed a tear
I’ll just put the decisions
Decision 1: 7-2 in favor of Powell (Butler, McReynolds for Alabama.)
Decision 2: 8-0 in favor of Norris
Decision 3: 8-0 in favor of Patterson
I am going through something just like this story right now with my child in Indianapolis Indiana thanks for the history lesson ‼️
Any updates?
I'm in tears.
10:39 I’m a huge fan. I liked the novel before I learned we had the same birthday (4/28). I was born in the mid 1980s.
80 years later doesn't fruckin matter. I cant fruckin believe this,,, I'm so upset by this case... I am so very upset. And something like this CAN and STILL happens in the US. Equality... all we want is equality. To be treated fairly without prejudice
I feel like the Supreme Court miss their opportunity to end Jim Crow with this case by using the 14th to end racially decided trials that sometime still go on today
The bank/law merchant are still operating in this fashion today. Stop buying back your rights through court process, the attorney is your adversary, any way you slice it. Nice job researching and presentment in this video.
Thanks, and yes, we still have a long freaking way to go.
Did you know the lawyers the boy got were insurance lawyers?