It's a rental in AZ. I have rented these for $35 on off days to take to Flagstaff to beat on off road. Twenty five thousand miles of rental use is like 75k to 100k of normal use imo. I drive a rental like I stole that $#!t. Running 🏃♂️ it up to 6 to 7 grand in manual mode is always fun.
My shadow hardly wiggles and it a cheep econo-brick from the 80s. What it reminds me of is in a truck that has a full down center part to make the sheets a bench.
@gunit 010 how is he not a good person? He made a statement based on observations that time and time again become true. Spinners havent been around for awhile now but drive though any lower income area and you will see hoopties with rims worth double the value of the car they are on, which probably has a monthly payment..
Yes you could spend $80k on a new Range Rover that's even nicer, and then you'd loose it all in such a short amount of time because their resale values are one of the worst in the automotive market. Personally, I would wait a few years before I got one, let somebody else take the hit on that one. Just my thoughts!
I agree. Don't forget all the time the Range Rover will spend in the shop being fixed for minor stupid stuff that will cost a forture to fix. Then you have to deal with that when the warranty is up. While the Lincoln is basically a dressed up F-250 with a F-150 motor. I am sure repairs will be cheap.
@@MysteicVoltronus Yes absolutely Jenny’s (Mrs. Wizard) Land Rover is actually an HSE which is the same as a Ford escape so parts are very cheap on that car for the most part. But some of the other more fancy ones can be very expensive to repair
The shaking dash is uncommon I know the two navigators I've had 2018 navigator reserve / 2020 navigator reserve L they have not caused me any trouble I love the car and the brand. I would recommend it to anyone it truly is a great car! Edit: I feel like he didn't do a great job showing how truly nice the car is.
I drove one of these shortly after launch in a rental fleet. I was really impressed, and I didn't get any of that wobble that you saw! I think I had a Reserve though, so closer to 100k. I keep thinking about that rental, and it is pretty much just because I loved that I was driving a land yacht that did not take forever to get up to speed, and the seats were way better than expected.
No problems with mice my problems have been squirrels. I have lifted the hood of my car and found a half eaten piece of a pizza crust sitting on the battery.
I had squirrels chew through the wiring for my windshield wipers on my old Suburban. Nothing else, just those wires. Replaced the wires and within a week or two they chewed the same wires again!
That's a beautiful car to me! I would buy one in a heartbeat if I were able to. 450 horse? Are you kidding me? Screw a Range Rover! Never ! Never! Never!
I am a big fan of yours and watch all of your video content. Very respectful of your knowledge and am impressed. You have to keep in mind however that for someone who is not a mechanic of your level with a shop such as yours the cost of repairing Range Rover, jaguar and Mercedes type SUVs will far exceed its value when any sort of usage is experienced. They then become just very expensive well-appointed yard ornaments... unfortunately.
Looking at how much older Navigators still go for today, I'll bet these things will turn 10-15 years old and still go for over $10,000 used if they have a good reliability history over time. If not... I'll gladly pick one up 10+ years used with 100k miles on it!
100k miles will be time for a new engine lol. These new high strung turbo engines manufacturers are shoving down our throats are ticking time bombs. 200k mile basic maintenance engines are a thing of the past. Not to mention 10k mile oil change intervals manufacturers are swearing by.
@@DaNiElLl430 Not as high strung as you may think. I have a 2010 Lincoln MKS with the 3.5L Ecoboost motor and during regular driving, even when fairly quickly overtaking other drivers on the highway, I rarely get it over 3000 RPM and the engine does not sound like it's working very hard at all to launch me past everyone on the road. By the way I'm still on the original motor and it's going very strong at 145,000 miles. In the Facebook group there are several of them surpassing 200k with no major issues. And as a person who works on my own car most of the time, I can honestly say it's not all that difficult to work on either. Only gripe I have is that the stupid water pump is driven off the timing chain. But yeah, the 3.5L in this Navigator is an even better refined motor than the one in my car, so I wouldn't knock it honestly.
10-15 year old navigators are in the junkyard/scrap yard. 2005-2010 Navigators are $3k-$8k all day on Craigslist and FB marketplace. You really have to be an idiot to buy a 5.4, or a 3.5EB thats 10-15 years old. Have fun getting to know your mechanic though.
@@bcatz454 You must be talking about heavily neglected pieces of shit Navigators. And I still don't know why you knock the 3.5 EB motor so hard, like I said, I have a first gen 3.5 Eco and it doesn't give me any more trouble than any other car would. Besides, for the most part I'm my own mechanic, and I've dealt with most of my car problems myself, hasn't been anywhere near as bad as you make it seem.
You can get a 2020 Expedition XLT 4WD with sunroof, navigation, rear captain chairs, for $50,000, $15,000 off MSRP at Auto Nation Katy Ford near Houston.
James R Peet I agree with but if you look around at the prices of everything Americans have sort of...kinda, lost their value perspective. I think this is going to get worst. I don’t know if it’s us doing it, us and the kids, or the kids. They’re getting people to buy tiny homes and exploding the value of THE home. It’s creeping into cars too, I’ve been chasing a 2019 XTS Platinum, they listed one at over $59K. We all know the resell on a Caddy too including them.
Lots of rental cars have been sitting more than usual this year, could explain the mouse. There was a rental car in Florida we left in a field, an ant colony moved in.
And the other thing about that 3.5 V6 EcoBoost is that the water pump is NOT driven by the timing chains like the front wheel drive 3.5 and 3.7 engines were.
I lived in Scottsdale and had a black vehicle. As long as you don’t live on a dirt road (and there aren’t that many). It’s not much different than anywhere else. Give it a wash occasionally and you’re fine.
I got an 5.4L3V Expedition with the upgraded top end (one-piece plugs, stronger VVT solenoids, durable tensioners) and at 200K miles is still pulling strong. I use premium synthetic and Motorcraft oil filters with religiously followed oil changes. Yes, at 200+K I keep my ears open for tired stamped and needle bearing roller followers. Yes, the Navigator is essentially an Expedition with fancier plastic and a few 'snowflakes.' At 250K-300K, I may find a mechanic who can replace the roller followers, and do a full cam phaser-timing chain-oil pump job . . . for $3000? The SUV will only be worth $7000 by then, but it is a very nice vehicle.
It is now the last Thursday of March 2021. The Car Mom (Kelly Stumpe) just did a video to review the 2021 Ford Expedition yesterday. It is identical to this 2020 Lincoln Navigator, but the 2021 Expedition was the regular wheelbase. The wheelbase of the 2020 Navigator was extended, when the Car Wizard went to Barrett Jackson in Arizona last fall. Anyway, the Car Wizard will expect to have the first buy this, not that video of 2021 (all-new one) this afternoon, on Saturday or after Easter. I am leaning towards Mazda, because the newer ones are highly recommended to buy, because they have no CVT transmission, the engines have Skyactiv technology and they are built better, same with the newer Mitsubishi's (the Car Wizard will also do Mitsubishi Motors for buy this, not that in the next video by late April/early May). Some of the older Mazda's are not recommended to buy, because they have a lot of electrical problems, mechanical problems and so forth. The ones to buy are any Mazda 3 from 2004 to 2018, 2017 and newer CX-5 (non-turbo or turbocharged), 2014 to 2018 Mazda 6 and any Mazda 5 from 2006 to 2015. The ones not to buy are any Mazda CX-7 from 2007 to 2012, any Protege from 1999 to 2001 (the 2002 and 2003 models are the only exception), any MPV (all model years), any Tribute (all model years) (identical to the older Ford Escape) and the first-generation CX-9 from 2007 to 2015 (due to the water pump issue on the newer Ford V6 engine's), because it is the FWD configuration and they have some problems, similar to the CX-7 (The 2016 and newer CX-9 is still a buy). Thank you very much and I hope the Car Wizard will have a lot more videos headed our way.
Wizard you should have done that whole video on that case 400 orchard it's one of the most beautiful tractors in the world and I'm sure most people don't know why it has fenders like that
I think because of it being a rental with people abusing it, its probably creaky like that. Not excusing it at all, but this is not like the grandma or soccer mom down the street that uses it normally. I've been inside of a used one and its very put together nice and not loose like that. Also, Range Rover doesn't have the reliability that the Navigator has. I would choose this over a Range anyday. Just my opinion.
More Wizard car reviews please. I like hearing about them from people who work on them. I know you haven't had to repair new ones yet, but insights about the brand and reliability from a mechanic's perspective are interesting.
I am hoping that the Car Wizard will meet The Car Mom from St. Louis, Missouri, sometime in the new year. She has a lot of experience regarding vehicles for mothers.
It’s fun reading these comments by coming back to this video is 2023. These days, that price tag is very reasonable. There are optioned out or specialized expeditions going for more than this one in 2020.
I used to own a 07 Monte Carlo SS. It too came from AZ. Enjoyed the car for about a year until the car wasn’t running on all 8 cylinders one day. Come to realize a mouse had chewed the wiring harness causing 8K in damages according to my local Chevy dealer.
Loved that Case tractor in the BJ shots. Streamlined like it is ready for land speed record. I can see it now....screaming down the Salt Flats and taking its class at 35 mph.
I would honestly prefer they put a 5.0 coyote in there, something lazier with less high strung performance. My opinion, that engine will not last as long due to the effort it uses getting the vehicle to move. Keep the V6 for the smaller Lincoln SUVs. Other than that, it's an absolutely beautiful SUV
I have family in Phoenix have have been going to Barrett-Jackson for the big January auction for the last 10 years. I was just to the right of the block when the very first of the new Toyota Supra went for $2.5m a couple years ago and just this past January when the very first production C8 Corvette hammered for over $3m (to Mr Chevrolet himself, Rick Hendrick). Actually, the 2nd-3rd week of January is auction week in Scottsdale. In normal times, that week is HUGE for the city. Not only Barrett-Jackson but there's also Gooding and Co, and Russo and Steele. The past auction you and Hoovie were at was their first fall auction mainly to kind of jumpstart things since covid shut everything down. You probably noticed they removed the bleachers from the arena, and only registered bidders are allowed on the premises. That's probably going to be the policy for this January which will mean the first time for me missing it in 10 years :( There is nothing like the Barrett-Jackson auction on Super Saturday (when times are normal of course)!! When all the high dollar, exquisite classics and resto-mods go up on the block and end up at 6 and 7 figures, and guys with more money than they know what to do with are throwing down $50,000 increments at each other like throwing water balloons, and the arena is packed shoulder to shoulder, and every star in the automotive world or star who loves cars is standing right next to you (I was right next to Brad Paisley one time and didn't even know it till someone mentioned it to me after we walked away). Barrett-Jackson is my Disney World. When times are normal I'm in Phoenix for a couple weeks and go almost every day the show is open, and never miss Friday night or Super Saturday.
Nice, but overpriced cars, and like you said, too many people with more money than brains driving up prices. Good place for a "car show", bad place to buy a car.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Come about 4:00 on Super Saturday you have millionaires who’ve been throwing back SoCo’s and Cokes all day who loose track of their senses and just let it rip and get caught up in everything. Yes serious car buyers don’t buy from there unless they have something they really want. It’s more about the fun and excitement. Nothing wrong with that if you can afford it.
The Expedition is on a F-150 chassis. The larger version is the Excursion. Which is also similar to the Navigator if I’m not mistaken. A Land Rover is another $20K and has a horrible repair record. If it’s British, it’s garbage.
I finally had to tap out on new cars, last one was 17 titan diamond Ed, $63,000=1017 month x 84. After 6 months I thought this crazy sold it. Now I drive a 04 expedition with 160,000 miles. Wizard was 100% right when he said it’s nice, but it’s not $80,000 nice.
@@12yearssober really depends on the country. Average household income in the usa was 54k in 2012 and 68k today. Your salary might not have increased, but on average it has.
I caught that and thought same thing. Very nice lol
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Just got a base 2021 escalade esv. Big upgrade from the 05 Yukon XL Denali but I know damn well it won't be as reliable. Got over 302k with hardly any issues at all since new, still has the original shock absorbers and bearings. Wish I could've ordered it with a basic 6.0 and a 4spd. I wish the navigator would've had the Ford 6spd and a 5.0 it's more reliable than my escalade, if it did I would've gotten it instead but both are kinda crap so might as well get the one that's newer.
N64 shirt ftw! For real nostalgia. 4 player action with friends, Smash bros, MarioKart, Goldeneye, Mario Party etc back in the day... Sigh. In fact, an N64 would be nice in the back of one of these modern SUV's or Minivans!, on the rear TV, with the 4 people in the back.. NINTENDO, where is that N64 MINI?!?
This video and these comments are very strange, when Lincoln came out with the redesigned Navigator with it's unique dashboard, everyone applauded the interior as one of the best in the industry and declared Cadillac years behind. Where is all the hate coming from? It's only just now a step behind Mercedes and Audi's latest, and the seats are much more comfortable. If you really need the extra fancy dashboard and interior, you can get the Black Label stuff, then they are on par with Range Rover.
We must be on the cusp of a massive recession. Previously people would be like, "cool car bro" but are now calling out the ridiculous conspicuous consumption and poor value planned obsolescence of a brand new SUV
Hey there Wizards! So glad you guys got to come out to my town for Barret Jackson! Pretty sure you guys had a great time; maybe next time (sans C0v!d) you guys could have a "Meet and Greet" with fans somewhere? We DO have beautiful sunsets and lots of dust however you would have no problem owning a black car here. I own TWO black cars; sure, dust gets on the vehicle but we have a gajillion car washes around here and they are relatively cheap especially if you buy an unlimited car wash pass which are less than $20/month.
Pack rats are a problem in Arizona. They do eat wiring, hoses, etc. A lot of people will leave their hoods open at night or put lights under the vehicle to help keep them from getting into the engine compartment. Well sealed garages are a must.
You cant judge the build quality based on a rental car that has been ragged out structurally in the interior by customers. The black label Lincoln's do feel alot different from their Ford underpinnings. Keep in mind the starting price for this generation expedition is 50k, not adjusted for inflation
Amazing how he said “for $20k more I could get a Range Rover”. Interesting as $20k more would have maxed out the trim level of that Navigator and removed a lot of expedition feel in it. Try comparing apples to apples. Also reliability and repair bills on range rovers are where value in them drop exponentially. Remember with a Lincoln you get Ford priced repair bills and that is what’s amazing about them.
The durability on the eco-boost engines is quite poor from my experiences I’ve seen. I have seen several raptors with the 3.5 eco boost need whole engine replacements at less than 40,000 miles turbos go out in 15,000 miles as well. The 3 cylinder economist in the escapes are bad as well. The 2.7 v6 eco boost are better but they still have issues. The 2.3 I4 eco boost in the mustang is probably the best of the pack but they still have turbo issues early in life.
@@max7768 do they exist yes but they are still plagued with issues. Just because a Range Rover has 200,000 miles doesn’t mean all Range Rovers are reliable. Same goes for the ecoboost engines.
@@ViolentMLG if you want one get it with the 2.7 V6 that is the better of the Ecoboost engines and get a 100,000 mile warranty as well. Your wallet will thank you. And when the warranty is up sell the truck.
Eco boost made Ford much like the euro cars, Warranty queens, they are only worth driving as long as you have a full warranty! I doubt there will ever be a EcoBoost that has 200 thousand on it without a new engine!
If you get a Ranger Rover or Discover you will need another car for when it is in the shop. Never buy, lease if you want one. On TFL they bought a Discover it broke at 167 miles and the dealer cannot fix it. They sent an engineer from the factory to work on it. 3 weeks later still in the shop and still broken. Brand new vehicle. Neither is something I would purchase.
there is no equivalent of the subourban since ford stopped the excoursion. subourban is the only SUV with full size back doors, fords are cut at the wheel well
Why get this when you could spend HALF the money on a nice 90s version that either still runs fine or only needs a little work, FULLY rebuild and customize it inside and out with nicer features than the modern one, and NOT have that crappy Gas GDI Ecoboost to worry about. This is one of the reasons used truck and SUV prices are going up, a lot of people don't want to blow $80k on a kid-hauler or "work" truck anymore. They are just too insanely overpriced. I sold a 1985 F-150 4x4 XLT this year for 2X what it was valued at, and the guy that bought it threw $25k at it to update and customize it with a coyote crate engine and modern interior and custom paint.
My neck of the woods! You'll see a lot of white and silver autos out here. Made the mistake of buying a black on black car when I first moved here and wow, it was hot! No snakes in Oct, they usual hibernate during the chiller months...
I have to question your comment on a Range Rover blowing the doors off the navigator. Yes it will in repair costs and lack of reliability along with depreciation curve.
Hopefully this afternoon, the Car Wizard will have an all-new, buy this, not that video for minivans, especially the Kia Sedona or the Nissan Quest. The Toyota Sienna is the best minivan in North America, but they are very expensive to own. Anyway, here is my list: To buy: 2018 and newer, Kia Sedona SX/SX-L with the 3.3 L GDI V6 engine and the eight-speed automatic transmission Not to buy: 2006 to 2010 Kia Sedona LX or EX with the 3.8 L V6 engine and the five-speed automatic transmission To buy: 2004 to 2009 Nissan Quest 3.5 SE with the 3.5 L V6 engine and the five-speed automatic transmission Not to buy: 2011 to 2016 Nissan Quest SV with the 3.5 L V6 engine and the CVT transmission - run away To buy: 2011 to 2016 Toyota Sienna SE with the 3.5 L V6 engine and the six-speed automatic transmission Not to buy: 1998 to 2003 Toyota Sienna LE with the 3 L V6 engine and the four-speed automatic transmission Thank you very much and I hope to see the Car Wizard's next video this afternoon, following the last two, ten-part series.
Hey Wizard, this truck is probably over 100k, I work at ford and most of these are 102-105 it’s rare you see them in the 80, 90s at minimum. those are the higher horsepower exoboosts too. Black label which I think this is starts at 98,000.
The dash wiggling around like that and the center console certainly does not exactly exude quality manufacturing. but there's no way in hell I would spend $80,000 on a used range Rover it would be in the shop more than it's on the road . I would gladly take subpar interior build quality versus mechanical disaster reliability from range Rover. personally if I was going to spend 80 grand I would find something different something made by Lexus or maybe a Toyota Land cruiser. If I really needed something that large could also do with a long wheelbase Tahoe or suburban and more of a base trim. It won't particularly care about all the power butt scratchers the practicality of the large SUVs is one of the best features about them.
Car Wizard, how about stop by at Denver CO on your way back. I can give you 4Runners to checkout. Partime 4wd & Fulltime 4wd, 7 seats vs 5 seats, mods, etc... I know there's nothing special on them and they are just regular SUVs. But in case there is anything to talk about or educate us vehicle lovers.
"Don't leave too soon. Photos from October 2020 Barrett Jackson coming..." Always thought it would be fun to go to one of these. Like a car show where all the cars are for sale. As expected, the parking lot is a car show all on it's own. But $76,000 for that Lincoln? Yeah, no. Hoovies van for $7,600? Oh yeah! VT247
Personally... I’d ‘consider’ this new Lincoln... after it was done it’s rental period.... as a ‘previously loved’ vehicle. (I.E. +$25,000 off! After all ... it’s just another used Ford).
FWIW, it is a rental fleet vehicle; you can bet the rental company did not spend 80K for that truck. and for that matter, rental fleet vehicles are often not built to the same standard as cars for individuals.
For about the same price you could have snagged the top of the line ram brother, a bit more but the interior is super nice if that's what your worried about
Little looks like Mercedes GLS. By the way I did order W221, S350 CDI, it is coming tomorrow or on Monday. I had X218, CLS350 CDI shooting brake and W220, S320 CDI between that what is coming and my old W221. So I'll go back to reliable and comfortable W221 S-Class. I tested many cars but always coming back to S-Class. Sometime I'll maybe buy W222, who knows time will tell. New W223 is little too sporty looking not so conservative as it should be, It's my opinion.
Lincoln Navigator: Brought to you by Piano Black Glossy Plastic. Because nothing says "class" in an an $80k vehicle like the plastic used on a $90 Walmart TV.
Thanks for the tour of this new Navigator. The real question is ... is it worth the premium over a Platinum Edition of the Expedition? Fully loaded, they ain’t cheap! Thanks for the video. .
Wizard. I did an oil change on my car and didn’t have a drain plug gasket so I traced the old one on a new differential gasket cut it out and used that. Is that going to hold with the heat of the engine? I can’t go anywhere even though i tested negative for COVID but still have to quarantine 14 days. I did order a new drain plug with gasket and can replace once they arrive and I can leave the house. It’s my 3rd car so I have other vehicles and don’t have to drive it.
prob with all the gadgets is that everything is replace as a complete unit.. when the new model for mine came out I asked the mechanic I knew at the dealer, how it plays out repairing the new cars.. His eyes rolled Its replace eveything,,no one fixes it. and the Nav / voice system is antiquated and no one can get it to work well.. and techs rarely get training on the car. They might send 1-2 away, rest just gotta take a guess .
Wizard, you should do a video on how to diagnose which fluid is which under a car. Tasting notes or something would be helpful. Once dirt gets onto your chemical, they are hard to identify visually!
Nice honest review. Scotty says don't get the EcoBoost! And now we know why Ford couldn't handle Land Rover/Jag when it owned them...they wanted to cheep them down.
The engines are cool but completely turned me off to Ford products. A friend of mine has a F-150 with the ecoboost, he is having all kinds of problems for example oil coating the valves and slapping from the timing chain. My old Ford E350 with the naturally aspirated V8 was running great when I sold it even though it had 300,000+ miles on it and I never had a problem with it. BUT I would consider betting that this would be more reliable long term than a Range Rover.
That center console wiggle is just plain unacceptable. The worst I’ve ever seen.
It is a rental though..Who knows how its may have been abused.
My 02 Chrysler 300m has less center console wiggle than that, and it's half as wide. And that model was criticized in 1999 for interior fitment!
The Mercedes s class has worse wiggles....
It's a rental in AZ. I have rented these for $35 on off days to take to Flagstaff to beat on off road. Twenty five thousand miles of rental use is like 75k to 100k of normal use imo. I drive a rental like I stole that $#!t. Running 🏃♂️ it up to 6 to 7 grand in manual mode is always fun.
My shadow hardly wiggles and it a cheep econo-brick from the 80s. What it reminds me of is in a truck that has a full down center part to make the sheets a bench.
He lost me shaking the dash and console around like that. 80k should at least feel solid.
Ya it should not exceptional
Then it wouldn't be Murican made🤣
@@ChrisParayno your right there American cars were not know to have nice interior's
@HistoryFan 88 ya that's true they used to make great stuff in the late 70s 60s but not nowadays
It is a rental though..Who knows how its may have been abused.
Hoovie will have this in 5 years for 15 grand.
Indeed
And wizard will charge him 70k to fix it
@@mattw10001 All in the name of entertainment!
4 years
3 years for $7K
Mechanics love all these turbo, direct injection engines, more work for them in the future.
Damn Doug has some competition now.
Need a Doug score
Land Rover and quality is like oil and water they don’t mix .
Yes a Range Rover is probably nicer if you don't mind taking out a 2nd loan for repairs.
him being a mechanic he doesnt have to worry. the rest of us, yes we have to worry very much
@@MyKeeP81 very much.
If you maintain it well it will last
In 4 years it'll be Rollin down the hood with spinning rims.
Sad, but that is so true.
@gunit 010 how is he not a good person? He made a statement based on observations that time and time again become true. Spinners havent been around for awhile now but drive though any lower income area and you will see hoopties with rims worth double the value of the car they are on, which probably has a monthly payment..
Going to air out some cribs 😀
probably on a roll back.
@gunit 010
Triggered snowflake?
I like my 6.2l in my F250. When those turbos eventually fail in the 3.5EB you need to be a Car Wizard to afford to replace them.
3.5 ecoboost turbo failure is not a common issue.
@@edwardmyers1746 really? My local ford dealership says other wise (friend is a mechanic)
@@edwardmyers1746 yes it is, although I'm sure it's less common in non truck vehicles
JustJay 0312 How about 2.7L 2015? Mine just hit 100K miles
Chris It’s actually less common with trucks and more common with the SUVs.. or atleast that’s what I’ve seen
Yes you could spend $80k on a new Range Rover that's even nicer, and then you'd loose it all in such a short amount of time because their resale values are one of the worst in the automotive market. Personally, I would wait a few years before I got one, let somebody else take the hit on that one. Just my thoughts!
These kind of depreciation monsters should be leased, not bought
I agree. Don't forget all the time the Range Rover will spend in the shop being fixed for minor stupid stuff that will cost a forture to fix. Then you have to deal with that when the warranty is up. While the Lincoln is basically a dressed up F-250 with a F-150 motor. I am sure repairs will be cheap.
@@MysteicVoltronus Yes absolutely Jenny’s (Mrs. Wizard) Land Rover is actually an HSE which is the same as a Ford escape so parts are very cheap on that car for the most part. But some of the other more fancy ones can be very expensive to repair
Or a person could not spend that $80,000 and use it as a tremendous down payment on a house or rental property
@@ChannelChingCong I bet you're fun at parties
range rover? they should come with a live in mechanic cuz you gonna need it
Mrs Wizard is lucky to have The Wizard fix hers. They surely are good looking and drive nicely.
'today we're replacing the entire car, because an led went out'
Time for bumper to bumper warranty.
“We live on a dirt road” incorporated into every video.
The money he makes he can pave the entire road
Drove cross country several times when you start going through New Mexico and Arizona it’s amazing. A beauty all its own.
I love the area too
The forests of rusted abandoned cars are a nice post-apocolyptic change of pace from the tree based forests in our other states
@@98triffid 😁
I agree. I drive from Canada to Arizona in the summer and once you hit NM the views are breathtaking.
Lived in Albuquerque all my life and I would agree. And we have so many different landscapes depending on where you are in this huge state
The shaking dash is uncommon I know the two navigators I've had 2018 navigator reserve / 2020 navigator reserve L they have not caused me any trouble I love the car and the brand. I would recommend it to anyone it truly is a great car!
Edit: I feel like he didn't do a great job showing how truly nice the car is.
I drove one of these shortly after launch in a rental fleet. I was really impressed, and I didn't get any of that wobble that you saw! I think I had a Reserve though, so closer to 100k. I keep thinking about that rental, and it is pretty much just because I loved that I was driving a land yacht that did not take forever to get up to speed, and the seats were way better than expected.
No problems with mice my problems have been squirrels. I have lifted the hood of my car and found a half eaten piece of a pizza crust sitting on the battery.
I had squirrels chew through the wiring for my windshield wipers on my old Suburban. Nothing else, just those wires. Replaced the wires and within a week or two they chewed the same wires again!
Ooh snap. That explains the piece of bread I found on my coolant reservoir. I had been scratching my head over that.
Squirrels are worse then mice
Yeah a mice chewed a hole in the cloth hood liner on my e55 AMG
That's a beautiful car to me!
I would buy one in a heartbeat if I were able to.
450 horse? Are you kidding me?
Screw a Range Rover! Never ! Never! Never!
I am a big fan of yours and watch all of your video content. Very respectful of your knowledge and am impressed.
You have to keep in mind however that for someone who is not a mechanic of your level with a shop such as yours the cost of repairing Range Rover, jaguar and Mercedes type SUVs will far exceed its value when any sort of usage is experienced.
They then become just very expensive well-appointed yard ornaments... unfortunately.
Looking at how much older Navigators still go for today, I'll bet these things will turn 10-15 years old and still go for over $10,000 used if they have a good reliability history over time. If not... I'll gladly pick one up 10+ years used with 100k miles on it!
100k miles will be time for a new engine lol. These new high strung turbo engines manufacturers are shoving down our throats are ticking time bombs. 200k mile basic maintenance engines are a thing of the past. Not to mention 10k mile oil change intervals manufacturers are swearing by.
@@DaNiElLl430 Not as high strung as you may think. I have a 2010 Lincoln MKS with the 3.5L Ecoboost motor and during regular driving, even when fairly quickly overtaking other drivers on the highway, I rarely get it over 3000 RPM and the engine does not sound like it's working very hard at all to launch me past everyone on the road. By the way I'm still on the original motor and it's going very strong at 145,000 miles. In the Facebook group there are several of them surpassing 200k with no major issues. And as a person who works on my own car most of the time, I can honestly say it's not all that difficult to work on either. Only gripe I have is that the stupid water pump is driven off the timing chain. But yeah, the 3.5L in this Navigator is an even better refined motor than the one in my car, so I wouldn't knock it honestly.
10-15 year old navigators are in the junkyard/scrap yard. 2005-2010 Navigators are $3k-$8k all day on Craigslist and FB marketplace. You really have to be an idiot to buy a 5.4, or a 3.5EB thats 10-15 years old. Have fun getting to know your mechanic though.
@@bcatz454 You must be talking about heavily neglected pieces of shit Navigators. And I still don't know why you knock the 3.5 EB motor so hard, like I said, I have a first gen 3.5 Eco and it doesn't give me any more trouble than any other car would. Besides, for the most part I'm my own mechanic, and I've dealt with most of my car problems myself, hasn't been anywhere near as bad as you make it seem.
Wait a year ... $ 20K depreciation
Not really. They've been holding their value very well. Its the nicest full size suv that isn't 200k. People love them.
@@americansmark no way thus will be worth $50k less in 5 years time.
At least 20k
You can get a 2020 Expedition XLT 4WD with sunroof, navigation, rear captain chairs, for $50,000, $15,000 off MSRP at Auto Nation Katy Ford near Houston.
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I agree with but if you look around at the prices of everything
Americans have sort of...kinda, lost their value perspective.
I think this is going to get worst.
I don’t know if it’s us doing it, us and the kids, or the kids.
They’re getting people to buy tiny homes and exploding the
value of THE home. It’s creeping into cars too, I’ve been
chasing a 2019 XTS Platinum, they listed one at over $59K.
We all know the resell on a Caddy too including them.
LETS PUT A V6 IN A 4 TON CAR AND SEE HOW FAST IT'LL BLOW UP
Planned obsolescence. Thats all...and we as consumers unfortunately promote it.
Idk why but this made me laugh really hard
Lots of rental cars have been sitting more than usual this year, could explain the mouse. There was a rental car in Florida we left in a field, an ant colony moved in.
And the other thing about that 3.5 V6 EcoBoost is that the water pump is NOT driven by the timing chains like the front wheel drive 3.5 and 3.7 engines were.
Agreed
I love all the Retro Gaming shirts, cross genre car/retro game fan. We are the same age as well, but I have all my hair.
I lived in Scottsdale and had a black vehicle. As long as you don’t live on a dirt road (and there aren’t that many). It’s not much different than anywhere else. Give it a wash occasionally and you’re fine.
It's a POS if I'm going to spend that kind of money I would buy a Toyota Land cruiser.
same
You could probably get the Lexus version for that money in the US would be infinitely better than this thing.
This vehicle is all about status. The appearance of status.
lmao wouldnt spend 80k on a toyota landcruiser
J Maxey Lincoln’s are no status symbol 😂 they’re junk anyway
"Range Rover quality"? Oh man, that makes me laugh.
Doug is out of a job. Wizard’s review is calm and with a peaceful voice unlike DeMuro
Don’t care for dougs reviews and he’s one sided opinions
THISSSSSSSSSSSS
@@JurgenDX ...is the worst sound on RUclips.
Ya love his voice
Same attire.....
I got an 5.4L3V Expedition with the upgraded top end (one-piece plugs, stronger VVT solenoids, durable tensioners) and at 200K miles is still pulling strong. I use premium synthetic and Motorcraft oil filters with religiously followed oil changes. Yes, at 200+K I keep my ears open for tired stamped and needle bearing roller followers.
Yes, the Navigator is essentially an Expedition with fancier plastic and a few 'snowflakes.'
At 250K-300K, I may find a mechanic who can replace the roller followers, and do a full cam phaser-timing chain-oil pump job . . . for $3000? The SUV will only be worth $7000 by then, but it is a very nice vehicle.
I have a 2010 Lincoln Navigator L in pearl white. It has 160,000 miles and it runs excellent.
It is now the last Thursday of March 2021. The Car Mom (Kelly Stumpe) just did a video to review the 2021 Ford Expedition yesterday. It is identical to this 2020 Lincoln Navigator, but the 2021 Expedition was the regular wheelbase. The wheelbase of the 2020 Navigator was extended, when the Car Wizard went to Barrett Jackson in Arizona last fall. Anyway, the Car Wizard will expect to have the first buy this, not that video of 2021 (all-new one) this afternoon, on Saturday or after Easter. I am leaning towards Mazda, because the newer ones are highly recommended to buy, because they have no CVT transmission, the engines have Skyactiv technology and they are built better, same with the newer Mitsubishi's (the Car Wizard will also do Mitsubishi Motors for buy this, not that in the next video by late April/early May). Some of the older Mazda's are not recommended to buy, because they have a lot of electrical problems, mechanical problems and so forth. The ones to buy are any Mazda 3 from 2004 to 2018, 2017 and newer CX-5 (non-turbo or turbocharged), 2014 to 2018 Mazda 6 and any Mazda 5 from 2006 to 2015. The ones not to buy are any Mazda CX-7 from 2007 to 2012, any Protege from 1999 to 2001 (the 2002 and 2003 models are the only exception), any MPV (all model years), any Tribute (all model years) (identical to the older Ford Escape) and the first-generation CX-9 from 2007 to 2015 (due to the water pump issue on the newer Ford V6 engine's), because it is the FWD configuration and they have some problems, similar to the CX-7 (The 2016 and newer CX-9 is still a buy). Thank you very much and I hope the Car Wizard will have a lot more videos headed our way.
Wizard you should have done that whole video on that case 400 orchard it's one of the most beautiful tractors in the world and I'm sure most people don't know why it has fenders like that
I think because of it being a rental with people abusing it, its probably creaky like that. Not excusing it at all, but this is not like the grandma or soccer mom down the street that uses it normally.
I've been inside of a used one and its very put together nice and not loose like that. Also, Range Rover doesn't have the reliability that the Navigator has. I would choose this over a Range anyday. Just my opinion.
More Wizard car reviews please. I like hearing about them from people who work on them. I know you haven't had to repair new ones yet, but insights about the brand and reliability from a mechanic's perspective are interesting.
Yes and you know the car wizard will tell you exactly what he thinks of the cars/trucks SUVs
I am hoping that the Car Wizard will meet The Car Mom from St. Louis, Missouri, sometime in the new year. She has a lot of experience regarding vehicles for mothers.
Rent for a day, week yes. Buy new no way. Too much depreciation. Roughly 60% in five years or less not to mention the repairs.
THIS! Is Ford Expedition with the chrome package!
What Lincoln SUVs have always been since day one with a 30k dress up premium
@@ES-wn6fx this one is so far from its brother, in performance and technology its insane
You are a female with an oversized click.
Tell me more?
Honestly if you watch Doug DeMuro’s video on it, it’s quite a bit more impressive than that
It’s fun reading these comments by coming back to this video is 2023. These days, that price tag is very reasonable. There are optioned out or specialized expeditions going for more than this one in 2020.
I used to own a 07 Monte Carlo SS. It too came from AZ. Enjoyed the car for about a year until the car wasn’t running on all 8 cylinders one day. Come to realize a mouse had chewed the wiring harness causing 8K in damages according to my local Chevy dealer.
Loved that Case tractor in the BJ shots. Streamlined like it is ready for land speed record. I can see it now....screaming down the Salt Flats and taking its class at 35 mph.
I've a funny feeling that it might be just a wee bit faster than that. 😁 Cool machine though - unique.
I had a Lincoln Navigator V8 and it was one of the best family hauler. It was fast, powerful and comfortable for a long drive to Las Vegas.
I would honestly prefer they put a 5.0 coyote in there, something lazier with less high strung performance. My opinion, that engine will not last as long due to the effort it uses getting the vehicle to move. Keep the V6 for the smaller Lincoln SUVs. Other than that, it's an absolutely beautiful SUV
I have family in Phoenix have have been going to Barrett-Jackson for the big January auction for the last 10 years. I was just to the right of the block when the very first of the new Toyota Supra went for $2.5m a couple years ago and just this past January when the very first production C8 Corvette hammered for over $3m (to Mr Chevrolet himself, Rick Hendrick).
Actually, the 2nd-3rd week of January is auction week in Scottsdale. In normal times, that week is HUGE for the city. Not only Barrett-Jackson but there's also Gooding and Co, and Russo and Steele. The past auction you and Hoovie were at was their first fall auction mainly to kind of jumpstart things since covid shut everything down. You probably noticed they removed the bleachers from the arena, and only registered bidders are allowed on the premises. That's probably going to be the policy for this January which will mean the first time for me missing it in 10 years :(
There is nothing like the Barrett-Jackson auction on Super Saturday (when times are normal of course)!! When all the high dollar, exquisite classics and resto-mods go up on the block and end up at 6 and 7 figures, and guys with more money than they know what to do with are throwing down $50,000 increments at each other like throwing water balloons, and the arena is packed shoulder to shoulder, and every star in the automotive world or star who loves cars is standing right next to you (I was right next to Brad Paisley one time and didn't even know it till someone mentioned it to me after we walked away).
Barrett-Jackson is my Disney World. When times are normal I'm in Phoenix for a couple weeks and go almost every day the show is open, and never miss Friday night or Super Saturday.
Nice, but overpriced cars, and like you said, too many people with more money than brains driving up prices. Good place for a "car show", bad place to buy a car.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Come about 4:00 on Super Saturday you have millionaires who’ve been throwing back SoCo’s and Cokes all day who loose track of their senses and just let it rip and get caught up in everything. Yes serious car buyers don’t buy from there unless they have something they really want. It’s more about the fun and excitement. Nothing wrong with that if you can afford it.
Tested the wiggle on my 2019 Navigator, and its solid. Rental car abuse.. Find a Rover that has comfortable seating for 7-8.
The Expedition is on a F-150 chassis. The larger version is the Excursion. Which is also similar to the Navigator if I’m not mistaken. A Land Rover is another $20K and has a horrible repair record. If it’s British, it’s garbage.
I finally had to tap out on new cars, last one was 17 titan diamond Ed, $63,000=1017 month x 84. After 6 months I thought this crazy sold it. Now I drive a 04 expedition with 160,000 miles. Wizard was 100% right when he said it’s nice, but it’s not $80,000 nice.
12 years ago I paid for my Nissan Titan 27k now is 33 to 35 k .. prices go up but my salary still same 😞
Inflation.
@@Ermy1996
Too bad salaries don’t inflate
@@12yearssober really depends on the country. Average household income in the usa was 54k in 2012 and 68k today. Your salary might not have increased, but on average it has.
@@Ermy1996 you need median, millionaires will mess with avg
@@joelopez7459 unemployed stoners will as well.
Is the 3.5 Ecoboost reliable over the years? A lot prefer the simple V8 in F150s. I guess if you’re a mechanic you would love the work they create
Take a shot every time Wizard says "very nice" , you'll be hammered within three minutes.
I caught that and thought same thing. Very nice lol
Just got a base 2021 escalade esv. Big upgrade from the 05 Yukon XL Denali but I know damn well it won't be as reliable. Got over 302k with hardly any issues at all since new, still has the original shock absorbers and bearings. Wish I could've ordered it with a basic 6.0 and a 4spd. I wish the navigator would've had the Ford 6spd and a 5.0 it's more reliable than my escalade, if it did I would've gotten it instead but both are kinda crap so might as well get the one that's newer.
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N64 shirt ftw! For real nostalgia. 4 player action with friends, Smash bros, MarioKart, Goldeneye, Mario Party etc back in the day... Sigh.
In fact, an N64 would be nice in the back of one of these modern SUV's or Minivans!, on the rear TV, with the 4 people in the back.. NINTENDO, where is that N64 MINI?!?
This video and these comments are very strange, when Lincoln came out with the redesigned Navigator with it's unique dashboard, everyone applauded the interior as one of the best in the industry and declared Cadillac years behind. Where is all the hate coming from? It's only just now a step behind Mercedes and Audi's latest, and the seats are much more comfortable. If you really need the extra fancy dashboard and interior, you can get the Black Label stuff, then they are on par with Range Rover.
My buddy had a 67 Road Runner, blue, two door post, dog dish hub caps and a taxi bench front seat back in the day! We all thought is was so HOT!
We must be on the cusp of a massive recession. Previously people would be like, "cool car bro" but are now calling out the ridiculous conspicuous consumption and poor value planned obsolescence of a brand new SUV
Hey there Wizards! So glad you guys got to come out to my town for Barret Jackson! Pretty sure you guys had a great time; maybe next time (sans C0v!d) you guys could have a "Meet and Greet" with fans somewhere?
We DO have beautiful sunsets and lots of dust however you would have no problem owning a black car here. I own TWO black cars; sure, dust gets on the vehicle but we have a gajillion car washes around here and they are relatively cheap especially if you buy an unlimited car wash pass which are less than $20/month.
Pack rats are a problem in Arizona. They do eat wiring, hoses, etc. A lot of people will leave their hoods open at night or put lights under the vehicle to help keep them from getting into the engine compartment. Well sealed garages are a must.
You cant judge the build quality based on a rental car that has been ragged out structurally in the interior by customers. The black label Lincoln's do feel alot different from their Ford underpinnings. Keep in mind the starting price for this generation expedition is 50k, not adjusted for inflation
I’d choose an LExus Lx570. Same size, price, but better value and has a reliable Toyota V8.
Amazing how he said “for $20k more I could get a Range Rover”. Interesting as $20k more would have maxed out the trim level of that Navigator and removed a lot of expedition feel in it. Try comparing apples to apples. Also reliability and repair bills on range rovers are where value in them drop exponentially. Remember with a Lincoln you get Ford priced repair bills and that is what’s amazing about them.
This V6 is working so hard it will be toast in less than 100K miles.
Definitely
I wonder in general the durability of all the turbo engines.
That Lincoln is what a Mercury should have been.
The durability on the eco-boost engines is quite poor from my experiences I’ve seen. I have seen several raptors with the 3.5 eco boost need whole engine replacements at less than 40,000 miles turbos go out in 15,000 miles as well. The 3 cylinder economist in the escapes are bad as well. The 2.7 v6 eco boost are better but they still have issues. The 2.3 I4 eco boost in the mustang is probably the best of the pack but they still have turbo issues early in life.
@@ziggi4800 As someone that is in market for a Bronco, hopefully they hold up better.
I've seen a 3.5 eb with 200k+ no problem
@@max7768 do they exist yes but they are still plagued with issues. Just because a Range Rover has 200,000 miles doesn’t mean all Range Rovers are reliable. Same goes for the ecoboost engines.
@@ViolentMLG if you want one get it with the 2.7 V6 that is the better of the Ecoboost engines and get a 100,000 mile warranty as well. Your wallet will thank you. And when the warranty is up sell the truck.
Eco boost made Ford much like the euro cars, Warranty queens, they are only worth driving as long as you have a full warranty! I doubt there will ever be a EcoBoost that has 200 thousand on it without a new engine!
I have a 2017 F150 with the 2.7 EcoBoost. 106,000 miles with zero problems & it runs like a scalded dog!
If you get a Ranger Rover or Discover you will need another car for when it is in the shop. Never buy, lease if you want one. On TFL they bought a Discover it broke at 167 miles and the dealer cannot fix it. They sent an engineer from the factory to work on it. 3 weeks later still in the shop and still broken. Brand new vehicle. Neither is something I would purchase.
there is no equivalent of the subourban since ford stopped the excoursion. subourban is the only SUV with full size back doors, fords are cut at the wheel well
Why get this when you could spend HALF the money on a nice 90s version that either still runs fine or only needs a little work, FULLY rebuild and customize it inside and out with nicer features than the modern one, and NOT have that crappy Gas GDI Ecoboost to worry about.
This is one of the reasons used truck and SUV prices are going up, a lot of people don't want to blow $80k on a kid-hauler or "work" truck anymore.
They are just too insanely overpriced.
I sold a 1985 F-150 4x4 XLT this year for 2X what it was valued at, and the guy that bought it threw $25k at it to update and customize it with a coyote crate engine and modern interior and custom paint.
My neck of the woods! You'll see a lot of white and silver autos out here. Made the mistake of buying a black on black car when I first moved here and wow, it was hot! No snakes in Oct, they usual hibernate during the chiller months...
I have to question your comment on a Range Rover blowing the doors off the navigator. Yes it will in repair costs and lack of reliability along with depreciation curve.
It's more powerful because it has 2 turbos. Put 2 turbos on the 5.0 and it's ball game for that v6
Hopefully this afternoon, the Car Wizard will have an all-new, buy this, not that video for minivans, especially the Kia Sedona or the Nissan Quest. The Toyota Sienna is the best minivan in North America, but they are very expensive to own. Anyway, here is my list:
To buy: 2018 and newer, Kia Sedona SX/SX-L with the 3.3 L GDI V6 engine and the eight-speed automatic transmission
Not to buy: 2006 to 2010 Kia Sedona LX or EX with the 3.8 L V6 engine and the five-speed automatic transmission
To buy: 2004 to 2009 Nissan Quest 3.5 SE with the 3.5 L V6 engine and the five-speed automatic transmission
Not to buy: 2011 to 2016 Nissan Quest SV with the 3.5 L V6 engine and the CVT transmission - run away
To buy: 2011 to 2016 Toyota Sienna SE with the 3.5 L V6 engine and the six-speed automatic transmission
Not to buy: 1998 to 2003 Toyota Sienna LE with the 3 L V6 engine and the four-speed automatic transmission
Thank you very much and I hope to see the Car Wizard's next video this afternoon, following the last two, ten-part series.
I'm looking for the Diesel Excursion and they're really hard to find in great condition.
Hey Wizard, this truck is probably over 100k, I work at ford and most of these are 102-105 it’s rare you see them in the 80, 90s at minimum. those are the higher horsepower exoboosts too. Black label which I think this is starts at 98,000.
The dash wiggling around like that and the center console certainly does not exactly exude quality manufacturing.
but there's no way in hell I would spend $80,000 on a used range Rover it would be in the shop more than it's on the road . I would gladly take subpar interior build quality versus mechanical disaster reliability from range Rover.
personally if I was going to spend 80 grand I would find something different something made by Lexus or maybe a Toyota Land cruiser.
If I really needed something that large could also do with a long wheelbase Tahoe or suburban and more of a base trim. It won't particularly care about all the power butt scratchers the practicality of the large SUVs is one of the best features about them.
Car Wizard, how about stop by at Denver CO on your way back. I can give you 4Runners to checkout. Partime 4wd & Fulltime 4wd, 7 seats vs 5 seats, mods, etc... I know there's nothing special on them and they are just regular SUVs. But in case there is anything to talk about or educate us vehicle lovers.
"Don't leave too soon. Photos from October 2020 Barrett Jackson coming..." Always thought it would be fun to go to one of these. Like a car show where all the cars are for sale. As expected, the parking lot is a car show all on it's own. But $76,000 for that Lincoln? Yeah, no. Hoovies van for $7,600? Oh yeah!
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Wizard isn’t a Ford fan and it kinda shows but different strokes for different folks I’m glad he did have some nice things to say about it
8:00 It’s pretty comfortable if we’re talking degrees in Celsius. I am totally confused by this Fahrenheit ... it just doesn’t make sense
Personally... I’d ‘consider’ this new Lincoln... after it was done it’s rental period.... as a ‘previously loved’ vehicle. (I.E. +$25,000 off! After all ... it’s just another used Ford).
Just not in Black!
FWIW, it is a rental fleet vehicle; you can bet the rental company did not spend 80K for that truck. and for that matter, rental fleet vehicles are often not built to the same standard as cars for individuals.
For about the same price you could have snagged the top of the line ram brother, a bit more but the interior is super nice if that's what your worried about
Ecobust only. 5.0 should still be an option.
Of course wizard likes all of these new turbo engines! Two words - Job security
The 3.5 kicks ass in towing too.
Not that i would ever buy an expedition or navigator but i wish they had put the V8 in there for people who still want a V8 in their full size SUV.
Little looks like Mercedes GLS. By the way I did order W221, S350 CDI, it is coming tomorrow or on Monday. I had X218, CLS350 CDI shooting brake and W220, S320 CDI between that what is coming and my old W221. So I'll go back to reliable and comfortable W221 S-Class. I tested many cars but always coming back to S-Class. Sometime I'll maybe buy W222, who knows time will tell. New W223 is little too sporty looking not so conservative as it should be, It's my opinion.
Lincoln Navigator: Brought to you by Piano Black Glossy Plastic. Because nothing says "class" in an an $80k vehicle like the plastic used on a $90 Walmart TV.
Just in case you were wondering ford expedition base is fifty five thousand and king ranch max is eighty one thousand
Thanks for the tour of this new Navigator. The real question is ... is it worth the premium over a Platinum Edition of the Expedition? Fully loaded, they ain’t cheap! Thanks for the video. .
Wizard. I did an oil change on my car and didn’t have a drain plug gasket so I traced the old one on a new differential gasket cut it out and used that. Is that going to hold with the heat of the engine? I can’t go anywhere even though i tested negative for COVID but still have to quarantine 14 days. I did order a new drain plug with gasket and can replace once they arrive and I can leave the house. It’s my 3rd car so I have other vehicles and don’t have to drive it.
prob with all the gadgets is that everything is replace as a complete unit.. when the new model for mine came out I asked the mechanic I knew at the dealer, how it plays out repairing the new cars.. His eyes rolled Its replace eveything,,no one fixes it. and the Nav / voice system is antiquated and no one can get it to work well.. and techs rarely get training on the car. They might send 1-2 away, rest just gotta take a guess .
The cop Expeditions that have the same engine are always breaking down, cops hate them.
White SUV color would create the impression this beast is even bigger.
Got my 5.4 3 valve cheap, did a full timing job with high volume oil pump. My engine will outlast that 3.5 turbo garbage, especially at 80 grand.
What's old is new again: It's the Family Truckster.
Runs great until the turbos over work the V6 to get more power and blow the rings out of it.
Wizard, you should do a video on how to diagnose which fluid is which under a car. Tasting notes or something would be helpful. Once dirt gets onto your chemical, they are hard to identify visually!
8:21 Mrs. Wizard contemplates a move to Arizona...
A fully loaded navigator is about 110k, but that one looks to be closer to 90k
Nice honest review. Scotty says don't get the EcoBoost! And now we know why Ford couldn't handle Land Rover/Jag when it owned them...they wanted to cheep them down.
Land rover was trash then and they're trash now.
The engines are cool but completely turned me off to Ford products. A friend of mine has a F-150 with the ecoboost, he is having all kinds of problems for example oil coating the valves and slapping from the timing chain. My old Ford E350 with the naturally aspirated V8 was running great when I sold it even though it had 300,000+ miles on it and I never had a problem with it. BUT I would consider betting that this would be more reliable long term than a Range Rover.