The Fisker Fleet Buyer - My Interview with American Lease

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024

Комментарии • 124

  • @oooohsnaaaap
    @oooohsnaaaap Месяц назад +37

    Direct and straight to the point. No time wasted on pointless small talk. Great interview.

  • @JeremyZ22
    @JeremyZ22 Месяц назад +26

    I think this is maybe the best news that was possible.
    Like at least one company has a ton of these and will need parts and service.
    Might not help. But it won't hurt either.
    Glad he had the guts to jump in and chat.
    Nicely done

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +5

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @satokage9354
      @satokage9354 Месяц назад +2

      I agree, it's overall really good news for Fisker owners. I think it's not so much "guts" but a practical business decision to proactively introduce themselves to other Fisker owners & promote membership into the FOA, as the more organized & agreeable these 2 organizations are with each other, the better their Fisker ownership experience will be (i.e. volume discounts on parts, instant feedback from owners, utilizing all owners' experiences & networks for solutions, etc.).

  • @phill6885
    @phill6885 Месяц назад +9

    Thanks again Adam. Even though I'm out I still follow the Fisker odyssey and you make it so much simpler with all your hard work.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      Much appreciated! Thanks for watching!

  • @chillmeister
    @chillmeister Месяц назад +6

    Adam, you have been doing an awesome job. Lovely for American Lease to come and talk with you. This is really positive for the owners.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching! I appreciate this

  • @davidew98
    @davidew98 Месяц назад +2

    The problem is legally. There is not a single owner out there who can sell any of their cars until all recalls are repaired on them. Since no one can get recalls repaired, that means no cars can be sold.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      A very unfortunate situation

  • @hellomynameis-ue7tc
    @hellomynameis-ue7tc Месяц назад +7

    Basically, the owners are on their own, an American Fleet is purchasing these cars to grow their Fleet, not to help fisker owners. They already know too, if there's any point taking on selling parts which they will not be because they know the amount of fisker vehicles that have already been sold, and they know there's no roi on this

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +4

      The goal for American lease is to help the association if they decide to stockpile parts. In the event that they don’t, American lease will then provide parts to partners the Association decides to establish as a for profit business.

    • @ellisrochlin2267
      @ellisrochlin2267 Месяц назад +1

      at least 10 percent of their fleet will get dented panels or worse , so they realise they could have to remanufacture certain parts to keep on the road as they wont earn their dough stuck in a compound , dependingb on the costs of these items which will be ironed out when selling on to private buyers.

    • @hellomynameis-ue7tc
      @hellomynameis-ue7tc Месяц назад

      @@Aslash304 This will not happen as there is no profit in this. They're using the purchase of these vehicles to grow their business on paper. The accusation of these vehicles increases their their company's holdings and assets. It increases the value of their company. This company will not take on selling parts to a very small percentage of people in this country. That owned these vehicles.American fleet will most likely sell their business in the next year or so

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      @@hellomynameis-ue7tcEven if they told me they would do this?

    • @hellomynameis-ue7tc
      @hellomynameis-ue7tc Месяц назад +1

      @Aslash304 He never once said he would do it. In this interview, he consistently said we will look into it. He consistently refer to the owners association. There's no business in taking care of twelve thousand cars. I mean, I could tell you I was going to sell parts to fisker owners, doesn't mean it's going to happen. A logical business person would tell you fisker's dead.The owners of the vehicles are left to hold the bag.

  • @bernssss0820
    @bernssss0820 Месяц назад +5

    Another great video - thanks as always! It's somewhat good (hopeful) news regarding parts/services, but at the moment I think the biggest and more immediate concern is if/when/how the pump recall (and the other recalls) would impact the owners... which I'm losing hope for as days go by that we'd get anything out of it. I was really hoping they'd include recall fix for the owners as a requirement before Fisker's allowed to unload the leftovers to AL :(

    • @Coolcatgrooves
      @Coolcatgrooves Месяц назад +3

      I second that very much, even though it seems brighter for those happy with this car, regarding parts, and maybe, I mean maybe software, owners were still effed big time. However listening to this guy, it's all business, which is fine, and these problems with the cars are not his doing. So I guess we are effed. I am still holding out for a miracle.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      The water pumps will be available. Just hard to get installed. And not necessarily available easily, or in a timely manner.

    • @maxxbom777
      @maxxbom777 Месяц назад

      @@Aslash304 I find so many different answers to questions about Fisker. I'm from Austria and ordered a FOE from the dealer 2 months ago. The car is there and cannot be handed over to me. The recalls have already been completed except for the water pump. The water pump has already arrived at the dealer and will be installed soon. The dealer is still waiting for approval from Fisker. Only then will I get the car. That's what my dealer told me on the phone today.
      Everything is uncertain and there's only one thing to do: wait and see.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      @@maxxbom777well said

  • @JCJW101
    @JCJW101 Месяц назад +2

    Well done on the interview, its always great to hear from someome directly involved. Sounds like a win win as far as parts goes for AL and FOA if they join forces for purchasing power.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      Lots of opportunities to be had. Agree

  • @ellisrochlin2267
    @ellisrochlin2267 Месяц назад +6

    so american lease as this gentalmen stated had been in negotion for a major fleet fisker purchase since feb , Mmm interesting. Was there timing of interest sparked by the price cut to fisker employees( the public offer WHICH LANDED FROM APRIL 3RD ?)

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      The timing isn’t clear. It would be nice to see more evidence on the Fisker side, for certain.

  • @cjzito
    @cjzito Месяц назад +9

    He said the Fisker Ocean will be "a massive upgrade for our drivers who have traditionally been driving more basic cars like Toyotas."
    Ummm -- My 2003 Toyota Prius and 2017 RAV4 Hybrid were leaps and bounds higher-functioning than my Fisker Ocean Extreme. None of the fancy safety features work and may never work, like adaptive cruise control and pedestrian alerts. And don't get me started about the key fob functionality.
    Then there is the reliability issue, where at any moment there is a measurable risk that the Ocean will become a brick.
    So, no. In no world is a mid-grade Toyota "more basic" than a Fisker Ocean.
    If the Fisker Ocean fully functioned as originally advertised, then it would be a different story.

    • @Coolcatgrooves
      @Coolcatgrooves Месяц назад +3

      Yes, i feel that AL is going to have some bumpy roads ahead of them, however, they have the money to fix all the bumps, and there will be bumps.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +3

      Agree. With ICE, Hard (maybe impossible) to beat a Toyota. This will, however, be the first opportunity for a company that cares about the car to try to car for the car. Glimmer, not shimmer.

    • @foxtrotwolf6081
      @foxtrotwolf6081 Месяц назад

      I think your basis of evaluation and your use case is different than a cabbie's. Also, not easy to find a luxury EV from toyota for $16500 fleet price brand new.

    • @JamaicanMeCrazy
      @JamaicanMeCrazy Месяц назад

      ​@@foxtrotwolf6081if it works

    • @kleefton
      @kleefton Месяц назад

      Well as a guy that used to drive a Toyota Camry for rideshare and now has switched to an ev, it WILL be an upgrade in terms of driving dynamics. The smoothness and acceleration are only part of the equation. At the end of the day most EVs are leaps and bound better than ICE cars for daily duties, especially for the taxi industry.

  • @KentRygiel
    @KentRygiel Месяц назад +2

    I'm shocked to hear that this deal had been in the works for five months. I didn't realize that Fisker gave up so long ago.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      It creates a timeline

  • @nute742
    @nute742 Месяц назад +2

    If they get a "Tax Incentive" the 14k price (per unit) will be around 7k! (If that is true). Not bad for an electric vehicle. (Perhaps they can payback this investment in the first few months if they are making them into uber, or taxi cabs, etc)

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      It is not eligible for any tax incentives

  • @davidmerwin7763
    @davidmerwin7763 Месяц назад +2

    Well done Adam. Time will tell how things workout. I am alive little optimistic. And I did join the FOA.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for sharing this! Best of luck

  • @BremboT
    @BremboT Месяц назад +2

    Awesome interview. Potentially good news for owners.

  • @AC-gp4gz
    @AC-gp4gz Месяц назад +6

    Sounds promising.

  • @matpat2636
    @matpat2636 Месяц назад +3

    I’d give this 2 thumbs up if I could! Good work!

  • @jeremyc.8903
    @jeremyc.8903 Месяц назад +3

    The guy got the deal of the century.
    (P.S.: I dont think you need that much backlight, it looks painful)

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +2

      It’s a window. Agree on both

  • @EV_OG
    @EV_OG Месяц назад +8

    Nice get & good job on the interview.
    I see how this can be good for their leasing business, but I think he’s giving false hope to owners.
    I think we should unpack what this truly means for owners…cost of FOA dues, cost of parts, cost of getting your vehicle to a service location or a freelance service tech to your vehicle. Ongoing costs for connectivity, map & other infotainment updates, cost for bug fixes with no warranty on them or on repairs. Owners need to understand current state is the best condition their FO will be. They will not improve with OTA updates, and they will degrade with use over time. Insurance costs are also likely to increase. I think the “Fisker King” said it best…owners are unfortunately about to learn about all the flaws in the FO, and will add the consequences of the Fiskers’ cost cutting decision…
    I hope I’m wrong, but I’m afraid this deal accelerates the end of Fisker and will ultimately be false hope for existing owners.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +2

      Well said. I’m working on unpacking the implications. Next video. Thanks, as always for the insightful conversation!

    • @DaveDarin
      @DaveDarin Месяц назад +1

      With the limited production numbers and now a subset of Oceans within one company I do see prices for parts to be marked up somewhat. There is "some" benefit to one company "American Leasing" having a significant fleet which got them a great deal per car and will help to get somewhat of a deal on parts. If the FOA can organize the owners to be as solidified as this Leasing company FOA might be able to get a similar deal for parts BUT that would require the owners to very closely work together and for almost all owners to be part of it AND financially contribute to both the support of FOA as well as financial contribution for parts, in general. Not just the parts an individual owner might need but to contribute to a collection of parts everyone will benefit from. That means owners can't be selfish and just contribute or want to buy their one single needed part but to contribute towards an inventory of parts. It seems everyone might be stuck with OS 2.1 and American Leasing even said that they are not concerned about adaptive cruise control, Since these will be NYC Oceans and not highway, that function is not important to them. This will be tough, there could be some benefit but at.a cost. Another angle might be to find part numbers, manufactures and perhaps a Jaguar iPace part is used in the Ocean and you could go to Autozone and ask for a part referencing it as a Jaguar part. For example the cooling pump. The manufacutres, was it Johnson controls, a part number is now known. Things like this could be helpful.

    • @satokage9354
      @satokage9354 Месяц назад +3

      I do agree that software updates (outside of recall requirements / safety issues) won't be prioritized in the short-term at least. Longer-term, we will know once American Lease & FOA start begin officially working with Magna, the developers & 3rd party suppliers. American Lease becoming the largest Fisker cars owner & operating as a "taxi fleet" has already yielded immediate positive benefits for all owners (compared to the uncertainty of spare parts availability & access just yesterday).
      For owners who want to keep the car long-term, this is really good news since a "taxi fleet" does regular maintenance of their vehicles & so will need regular access to spare parts at good prices; a responsible taxi company maintain service schedules & will replace some parts before they break-down as many of the cars rack-up lots of miles within a short time-frame & is in use for a full workday nearly, or even, daily. At the very least, the fear & uncertainty of spare parts has been addressed, though implementation will take time.
      As far as flaws & degradation over time is concerned, this is the risk of buying any cars really, including ICE vehicles; if the owners had the risk appetite & budget to buy an EV (relative new tech.) from a start-up (implication being start-ups may not survive long-term), & still love the car enough to keep it long-term, then these issues should have been part of the risk-reward calculations before purchase; Tesla, BYD & many other EV makers still have software bugs & other flaws discovered over time to this day.

    • @Coolcatgrooves
      @Coolcatgrooves Месяц назад +1

      I have been saying this for the past few weeks! I'm glad you are echoing what i have said. Inside these groups, folks are so happy, but they will not be happier down the road. You nailed it, by pointing out the cost and troubles that await.

  • @effingsix3825
    @effingsix3825 Месяц назад +3

    Amazing interview, Adam! 🤔 Fizz car.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @DaveDarin
    @DaveDarin Месяц назад +2

    If no one else considered this I googled how many miles a taxi takes on per year, 45,000+ miles. So, while American Lease might be casting a brighter future for private owners you do not think that they will allow their taxis to sit idle while they help private owners with the parts they need to get their taxis on the road. Add to that NYC driving challenges of bad roads, pot holes, weather, aggressive drivers. Add all that and the more than triple the miles that taxis take on a year and that will put a huge demand on parts and dry up parts that are needed for private owners that will have the priority of going to American Leasing. Wishful thinking that this report is viewing things as positive for the private owner. I see it as the reverse.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      I’ll address this in an upcoming video

    • @DaveDarin
      @DaveDarin Месяц назад

      @@Aslash304 looking forward to that. The average driver of his personal car drives between 12,000-14,000 per year. NYC taxis at 45,000+, that’s triple the mileage vs. private owner. And NYC is a brutal driving location. All stop and go, fender benders, weather. All that means the taxis will absorb a lot of parts and I just don’t see private owners having the same access to parts left over beyond the taxis consumption and urgency to get them fixed. No way is this good for owners.

  • @tumentumengoosh5178
    @tumentumengoosh5178 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you very much for your endeavor! I wish Fisker speaks out and contact to the owners and shareholders if he is respectful to them. Being silent makes them frustrating. I wish you were Fisker!

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your feedback

  • @markp257
    @markp257 Месяц назад +1

    You deliver again Adam! Question, what happens in three years when American Lease decides to replace the high mileage Oceans with new vehicles?

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      Great Question!

    • @memyselfundeye
      @memyselfundeye Месяц назад

      They’ll buy the next fire sale EV out there……

  • @liuyi900
    @liuyi900 Месяц назад +1

    look forward to an interview with Henrik Fisker and his thoughts about the company.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      Not on this channel

  • @Jeddin
    @Jeddin Месяц назад +1

    How are they going to charge their fleet in New York City. Revel, which is a EV rideshare company in New York City has built charging hubs. Will American least do the same?

  • @EM.1.
    @EM.1. Месяц назад +2

    Adam, Do you know if FOA has any plans to take the Fiskers to court over negligence?

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      This is a question for the FOA

  • @JoeKyser
    @JoeKyser Месяц назад +1

    You guys look like brothers

  • @nogaroblu9321
    @nogaroblu9321 Месяц назад +2

    This American Lease guy looks shady AF

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      He was very transparent. Answered all my questions.

  • @Turbomgzt
    @Turbomgzt Месяц назад +1

    Fisker Cloud servers now down apparently?

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      Some of the services are already going away

  • @corykeen2614
    @corykeen2614 Месяц назад +1

    Would you buy one today for $25k. 7 miles on it. Or no?

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      Watch my most recent video. The “money pits” thumbnail. Your answer is there. ruclips.net/video/vbUUOjKW6eE/видео.htmlsi=9fY3pehDcSrdSs-P

  • @Lorwildrose
    @Lorwildrose Месяц назад

    So just heard a New York taxi company bought all the inventory? Is that this company?

  • @walthc
    @walthc Месяц назад

    Adam - about the offer to existing owners, curious what the per unit price that they ended up paying is. Did one of your past video cover it?

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      American lease paid just over $16,000 each, for new examples. Yes. The terms of the Bankruptcy deal are in a previous video. ruclips.net/video/BXrvCf42h5M/видео.htmlsi=6CU9OweHNG2sPEwt

    • @foxtrotwolf6081
      @foxtrotwolf6081 Месяц назад +1

      Used ones were $3200. Used = "previously titled."

    • @walthc
      @walthc Месяц назад

      @@Aslash304 Thank you!

    • @walthc
      @walthc Месяц назад +1

      @@foxtrotwolf6081 Thank you!

  • @Coolcatgrooves
    @Coolcatgrooves Месяц назад +1

    So make it simple for me, I'm a bit jet lagged. Why is Fisker still in the game?

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +2

      They own the intellectual property and access to the software that keeps the car running. American Lease only has a License.

    • @Coolcatgrooves
      @Coolcatgrooves Месяц назад +1

      @@Aslash304 Clear now. So why is Fisker still holding onto the IP?

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +2

      @@Coolcatgroovesthey aren’t. It will be sold through the liquidation process, just like the cars were

  • @urcorrupted
    @urcorrupted Месяц назад +1

    In a lot of ways, Al needs us more than we need them!

  • @harryo3711
    @harryo3711 Месяц назад +2

    You look like brothers

  • @EM.1.
    @EM.1. Месяц назад +6

    Adam, please pass a message over to Josh to buy the IP from Fisker and build cars with Magna in Arizona. If Biden can give GM & Ford cash, they can certainly help keep the company afloat. It will give Americans more jobs and provide new customers confidence that a moron isn't running the company. The PEAR & Alaska will have a shot and offer the public a more affordable car.

    • @patrickmannion4952
      @patrickmannion4952 Месяц назад +4

      Did you listen to the interview?

    • @EM.1.
      @EM.1. Месяц назад

      @@patrickmannion4952 -yes. I know there are hurtles.

    • @EM.1.
      @EM.1. Месяц назад +1

      @@patrickmannion4952 - I couldn't understand what he said due to bad audio - 5:12

    • @gilbertnau6002
      @gilbertnau6002 Месяц назад

      Great point. I wish they would do something with the software.

    • @gilbertnau6002
      @gilbertnau6002 Месяц назад

      Thank you very much. Great video.

  • @danielflockinger5280
    @danielflockinger5280 Месяц назад +2

    Well, this is all nice for US owners. But what about the owners in the EU?

    • @cristianfleming8313
      @cristianfleming8313 Месяц назад +2

      Cristian from FOA here. Our core working groups are comprised of members that stretch from Norway to California and we are thinking about how we approach this in every region where Oceans can be found. American Lease has shown a willingness to think way outside the box on this with us to make sure we are thinking collectively about both the North American and European markets.

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +1

      All of it is uncertain. There are efforts being made, that’s really all we know at this point.

    • @Turbomgzt
      @Turbomgzt Месяц назад +1

      Exactly. I've been following Fisker Ocean UK groups and the main concern is insurance.
      All insurance companies have pulled the Fisker. Only one left and that is quoting double what owners were paying before.
      No matter what American Lease of FOA say or try to achieve, UK owners are being left with cars they cannot drive or sell now.

    • @maxxbom777
      @maxxbom777 Месяц назад

      @@cristianfleming8313 The idea of ​​people joining together and forming this association (FOA) is really good. But what are the main motives here? There are only 11,201 Oceans. 6,864 of them are in the USA and the rest are spread across Europe. 3,231 vehicles are now owned by American Lease. So the FOA supports 3,633 cars in the USA and 4,337 in Europe. Subtracting vehicles that have been in accidents or inaccuracies in my research, that would be 7,500 vehicles worldwide. Why all this effort to run the FOA? Please don't misunderstand me: I think it's great that the owners are looked after. I'm also happy when I get support. After all, I also bought a FOE, but it's still at the dealer waiting for approval from Fisker.

    • @JCJW101
      @JCJW101 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@TurbomgztThat's nuts, if parts availability goes down that price will easily double or triple again.

  • @panameradan6860
    @panameradan6860 Месяц назад +1

    I thought you were interviewing yourself as a spoof … you guys look like twins with nearly the same hair & beards & shirts

  • @jeffsousa399
    @jeffsousa399 Месяц назад +1

    Fiszuber

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад

      Write it on the cars.

  • @AndreKosinski-yx7rg
    @AndreKosinski-yx7rg Месяц назад +1

    I wan to sell my Fiskar. How much they offer? It’s in perfect conditions. Only 3,000 miles

    • @Aslash304
      @Aslash304  Месяц назад +6

      They purchased the new ones for $16,500

    • @hopemorse390
      @hopemorse390 Месяц назад +1

      Previously titled for $3,500

    • @Turbomgzt
      @Turbomgzt Месяц назад

      ​@@hopemorse390 get more for that breaking it 😊

    • @foxtrotwolf6081
      @foxtrotwolf6081 Месяц назад

      ​@@Turbomgztdamaged ones were $2500.

    • @bobbyr8071
      @bobbyr8071 Месяц назад +1

      $10 and a six pack 😂😂😂