Life As A Refugee Stranded In Indonesia | THE VOICELESS #16
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2019
- Indonesia currently hosts around 14,000 refugees. Some of these refugees have been waiting for 6-7 years while being completely isolated and marginalized in Indonesia. Asian Boss recently had the opportunity to speak with some local residents in Jakarta about this issue and actually step inside the government complex that accommodates these refugees. Here is how it all went down.
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Refugees need help and helping hand, that's true.
But Indonesia just a *transit country* for the refugees
Their aim was and still is other more wealth country such as Australia.
From the local news, I learnt that stranded refugees in Indonesia are those who's being rejected to enter Australia. There fore Indonesian government is kind enough to provide them shelter, eventhough it's just a temporary ones.
For those of you who live outside Indonesia and don't know about Indonesia, here are some facts. Indonesia consists more than 15,000 islands and therefore the country development is still eloping day by day, and there's much more rural areas where the people facing more difficulties everyday, even just to have proper meal twice a day.
I'm not trying to justify that refugees are bad and government always right. The government still have lots to improve in their own works on developing their own country, while being so, they just practice humanity and tries not to make inequality to their own citizens.
So, I'm actually still in between. For example, if the government only able to give that much help out of humanity and empaty, would it be unfair if the refugees still complains?
How about the country the refugees willing to entry, such as Australia? Will they also want to accept *all* of the refugees?
Naru_2kawaii4me well said👍🏻
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Well said
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Indonesia is just a transit country. What facilities do you expect? Moreover jakarta is a most populated city in indonesia. And we already have so much problems. At least they can eat freely have place to sleep while waiting for third country than living in their conflicted country that can risk their own life.
paisleyyama it is not about religion whatsoever, our country still has so many problems to deal with ( considering our country is still a developing country and also we are not a signatory to the UN refugee convention). our government and local citizens have voluntarily help them with foods, clothes, shelters, etc. but it is getting nowhere, the UNHCR should fix the problem asap.
@paisleyyama dude Indonesia DOES NOT HAVE an obligation to let them stay. It has nothing to do with religion.
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Over 87% of native Indonesia’s population is Muslim. It has *NOTHING* to do with religion.
@paisleyyama if you don't know the real condition just shut up
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Dude ... Indonesia *IS* a Muslim country lol 😂🤣🤦🏻♀️
No matter what your status is, but when you go in foreign country respect and follow their country rules.
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Tell that to the muslim refugee in sweden/finland/Germany! They want to bring sharia law there, propose that all female wears a headscarf n covered clothes and cancel Christmas cos its insulting them! Disgusting
Lol you guys are funny, clearly you don’t know what Shariah law is. If they want to take over your country they would’ve done it a long time ago. Jokers, educate yourselves.
Careful with those words, leftist Americans are reading these comments. Lol
Marwa damn you are missing the point here madam.
Sebenarnya saya sedih dengan kondisi mereka tapi jujur sayapun pernah merasa takut dengan kelakuan mereka ...karena beberapa tahun lalu mereka juga pernah singgah dikota kami kebanyakan dari mereka malah tidak mau hidup susah , ada beberapa dari mereka yang kami bantu karena kasian tapi apa tiap hari mereka datang kekami meminta lebih dan lebih dengan memaksa,terus mintanya juga nggak wajar minta sepedalah,minta pakaian barulah dll.dan saat tidak dikasih mereka berulah ,jadi saya mengerti sekali ketidaknyamanan warga disekitar sana(Jakarta)
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Actually I'm feeling sad for their condition but to be honest I'm also scared of their behaviors.. Because a few years ago they stopped by at my city and most of them don't want to live the hard way. There were some of them that we helped because we pity them, but then they came back and demanded more in a pressuring way. The things they demand were also unreasonable, such as bicycle, new clothings, etc. And when they were not given those, they acted up instead. So I could understand why the citizens there (Jakarta) are not comfortable with them.
Usually from which country are they?
@@fadhly5192 kebanyakan dari Iran dan afrika
@@hannaamaliautami8205 sok inggris kau
Orang indonesia sendiri aja masih banyak yg susah, jadi gelandangan, tinggal di rumah kardus, ga bisa sekolah, sakit ga bisa berobat...
Lah kalian imigran udh dikasih tempat penampungan sama pemetintah yang menurut gua jauh lebih baik daripada rumah kardus, masih aja nuntut minta fasilitas lain, pendidikan, pekerjaan. Kita aja nyari kerja susah.
Itulah bro, makanya saya tidak respek sama mereka
kalo kita yg di posisi mereka dan luntang lantung di negara lain juga pasti inevitably kita ngeluh kenapa kebutuhan dasar kita gak di penuhi sama pemerintah negara itu. Naluri manusia emg kyk gitu, gapernah bisa puas sm keadaan jd gabisa salahin mereka juga sih. Masalah utamanya lebih ke why does Indonesian government accept them in the first place when they know they wouldn't be able to fulfill the basic needs of the refugees? Even many Indonesians are still living in the poverty line and got ignored completely by the government.
Nanti kyk swedia
Pencitraan dari negara lain mungkin 🙃
@@eryngii2147 It's not something that the government of Indonesia can decide. Posisinya adalah: refugee itu udah sampai duluan di Indonesia. Walaupun Indonesia punya pilihan untuk mengembalikan refugee itu kembali ke negara asalnya karena Indonesia bukan signatory dari convention or treaty tentang refugee, Indonesia chose to keep refugee itu karena Indonesia is supposedly negara TRANSIT. Saya percaya kok pemerintah Indonesia tau mereka ga bisa fulfill basic needs dari para refugee ini, let alone orang Indonesia sendiri banyak yang kesusahan. But, think of the other possible situations instead of blaming one side because refugee is actually one of the most crucial international problems.
I think many of Indonesian do not sympathize with them because from the news, just like BBC, they complained about the facility, they compared it with developed country, no thank you and ungrateful. Indonesian usually like to help people, if they said lots of thanks and grateful maybe the situation could be different
That's what im talking about, with they complain make less care about them
don't bother...people in far region like Papua or Kalimantan need more help rather than take refugee from other country
maybe if they actually talked to the refugees there would be a word of thanks? Especially those protesting- I'm sure the people who but up the banners don't want to help them move out, they just want them gone... what's there to thank for that though? But it's true, the facilities are way overcrowded, and if they didn't say it, no one would.
@@elisdeliofa5570 yep, help your countrymen first then expand outwards
We should send them away on boat off to the sea, and let see if australia that they praised so much will took them or not.
ask UNHCR, Indonesia has already showed its kindness by providing shelter and food to make them survive while waiting for their placement into their designated country. Our government provide aid because they are rejected by our neighborhood countries.
Our country still have massive problem to get over with and also busy to improve our economy. to provide daily life needs for a large number of refugees will spend huge amount of money. we can't just waste our money for the refugees who should be live in other countries
@Slim Jim that's not simple like stop entering them to our country, if we do that, we betrayed the preamble of 1945 constitution of the republic of indonesia
1945 CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA
PREAMBLE
Whereas independence is a genuine right of all nations and any form of alien occupation should thus be erased from the earth as not in conformity with humanity and justice,
Whereas the struggle of the Indonesian independence movement has reached the blissful point of leading the Indonesian people safely and well before the monumental gate of an independent Indonesian State which shall be free, united, sovereign, just and prosperous,
By the grace of God Almighty and urged by the lofty aspiration to exist as a free nation,
Now therefore, the people of Indonesia declare herewith their independence,
Pursuant to which, in order to form a Government of the State of Indonesia that shall protect the whole people of Indonesia and the entire homeland of Indonesia, and in order to advance general prosperity, to develop the nation’s intellectual life, and to contribute to the implementation of a world order based on freedom, lasting peace and social justice, Indonesia’s National Independence shall be laid down in a Constitution of the State of Indonesia, which is to be established as the State of the Republic of Indonesia with sovereignty of the people and based on the belief in the One and Only God, on just and civilized humanity, on the unity of Indonesia and on democratic rule that is guided by the strength of wisdom resulting from deliberation / representation, so as to realize social justice for all the people of Indonesia.
I believe Indonesia should start removing refugees who illegally are in Indonesia. It’s not fair I’m the kind people of Indonesia to be burdened by country shoppers who take advantage of the Indonesian hospitality.
@Slim Jim so what we should do?
@Slim Jim yeah it's complicated, i hope they will back to their own country except indonesia. Because we have lots of problem to solve either than them in here. (sorry for bad english xD)
Actually, my Thesis titled "Handling refugees from Afghanistan in Indonesia (Study of Implementation Presidential Regulations No 125 of 2016 about Handling refugees from overseas).
The research results are Indonesia was not signature country of Geneva Convention 1951 about Status Refugees, so Indonesia doesn't need to give them Refugees status.
But Indonesia has a Presidential Regulations about Refugees, said that Indonesia will be shelting them untill the third country take them to their country (Australia etc).
and where did su study ?? and what major ? pls
That’s right and these refugees know where Indonesia stands with regards to protecting refugees and international law. The issue is that countries like Australia has abandoned Indonesia to deal with their mess when they stopped or reduced funding UNHCR and IOM and resettlement intake. No one expect Indonesia to carry this burden but to push Australia to fulfill their obligations under the international law and accept them to Australia.
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Lost respect sama mereka setelah liat beberapa pengungsi pas interview salah satu channel youtube dan mereka menjelekkan indonesia dengan membandingkan dengan negara maju dan bilang indonesia miskin, masyarakat indonesia juga masih kekurangan bukan kalian doang, gue sih lebih baik membantu sesama masyarakat sekitar gue dulu daripada masyarakat negara lain
yepp..gue juga sama, kalo nggak salah itu interviewnya di channel bbc indonesia
negara kita kurang baik apa bencana bertubi tubi ( gempa, tsunami, gunung merapi ) tapi masih mau nolongin mereka.
Mengungsi itu kayak pada 1999 kaco di tim tim org ngungsi ke kupang bukan ke jakarta masa kalo bilang kaco di timur tengah pindahnya bukan negara yg berbatas langsung tapi ke negara barat yang saking jauhnya itu bukan cari aman lagi itu cari enak mentang mentang ada ham gratisan semua tunjangan bahkan rumah sakit klo di ossie u bisa pilih yg mana dan dokter mana bukan standar minimum.
ye betul ramai PATI indonesia di malaysia kerna mahu carik kerja....rakyat sendiri pun susah mahu tolong org lain
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i guess everyone knows that Australia will not accept them.
Because Indonesia we has lot respect..its easy if u like they are ur dont want right.. bcz Indonesia have pity thing for people has have more to life
Yes. Australia doesn't want them and Indonesia shouldn't care too much about them as well. Indonesia have a lot of citizen to help. Just send them back to their place.
Jennyfer Debbie Send them back is way more impossible tho
Who says such a thing
@@zalmhendry yeah i know.. but whatever the way, they just need to get out from Indonesia. We already have our own problems. They just added the problems.
As a human, my heart goes for them. However, I understand this is a complicated situation. These immigrants got stranded in Indonesia because they are rejected by Australia or still waiting their permit to enter The Down Under. Many Indonesians feel these immigrants are being ungrateful to Indonesia (like badmouthing the country and even held a protest against the government) while the government have provided them a place to stay while they are “not obligated” to do so. The local citizens tried to help, like setting up donation boxes for them. However, some said that personal helps are useless because these immigrants keep demanding more and more from them.
There still not happy Even after Australia government grant them visa to stay here.
The ones in detention are very ungrateful towards Australia’s help. They get free medical care, wifi, clothes, food and shelter and still it’s not enough.
True, , if one country needs them if they are skilled and or professional like Australia and Canada needs Agri workers but how if they don't even know the job
To people that said Indonesian hasn't sympathy or empathy, Please, come here. Help them. We want to see, how to sympathy and empathy for them. Or you can call UNHRC to orbit their document, and then they can go to the future country. FYI, Indonesia is not their future country. They just transit. OK..
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Indonesia goverment are responsible to Indonesian. On the other hand, refugees, are the responsibility of UNHCR. So there should be no judgement about Indonesia's goverment. They did enough. And the law even make it more difficult for Indonesia to help since theyre just a transit country. The international laws made refugees not allowed to work, go to school, and not even leave the designated place in the transit country. And sadly, that transit country is Indonesia
No, governments which accept taking in refugees have legal obligations towards them. Besides they are human beings and have rights too, which should be respected regardless of the country taking them in.
@@anadd6195 we not take them, they came here ilegally
These refugees try to cheat queue by go to indonesia and go to Ausie by boat, ofcourse this make australian angry and block their boat.
Soal fisika quantum:
Negara saya sedang konflik, saya melarikan diri dr negara saya. Pilihan yg sebaiknya saya ambil adalah:
A. Ke Amerika, diperbatasan dicegat, lalu dikurung, dipisahkan anak sm ortu.
B. Ke Eropa, sampai di perairan Italy berminggu2 terapung2 dilarang bersandar.
C. Ke Australia, mampir ke Indonesia, ditampung, dikasih kebutuhan primer, betah, trus minta ini ono, di wawancara asian boss, viral, tambah betah dst...
Yuk... Depeleh.. Depeleeeeh....
Indonesia lmh p lg aceh sok simpatis mnrma mereka trs g liat dmpknya ky gini
If only we focused on fixing their countries instead of throwing people over borders like a bunch of sheeps... i guess the people that gain from this situation don’t want this to change.
the thing is with their government...if they stay..they get killed.
American led NATO are the problem makers everywhere in the first place. That's why they need to be stopped for peace sake.
If only i have a million accounts to like this comments.
Easier said than done when you have a goverment that doesn't hesitate to kill
indonesia still trying to mediate beetween taliban and afghan government
They are always fed dude, they also get health checks from the department regularly. The government is also building a relief post. But they always ask for more facilities, then they also ask for a job even though from the beginning the requirements are indeed not allowed to work there.
they say they don't have money, they say they don't look like humans but they play gadgets?!
honestly I'm sad and sorry to see them :"
As an Indonesian I'd rather the government stop accepting refugees. Sorry not sorry but we're not exactly a rich country either. Those mega rich countries in middle east should be held accountable. They are practically neighbors and yet they don't help them at all. Furthermore, as mentioned by others, the refugees aren't exactly grateful either for the help they've received for FREE. I'm not saying all refugees are bad, but being 'nice' doesn't always work in the big scale. Look at countries who accept refugees in Europe, if such a developed country are being negatively affected by refugees, moreover Indonesia.
Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey already host millions of refugees. Iran and Pakistan also host another few millions of refugees from Afghanistan.
@@oghuzdynasty777 SAUDI ARABIA? ISRAEL? PALESTINE? UAE? OMAN? EIGYPT? HUH??
@@oghuzdynasty777 and funny is, in this "immigrant", THERE'S PAKISTAN AND EVEN IRAN AS "REFUGEE", LOL
@@oghuzdynasty777 So Iran accepting Pakistani refugees and Pakistan accepting Iranian refugees ?? LOL
@@ornachia2489 No I said, Iran and Pakistan accepting Afghan refugees, and it's true.
why would u be suffered when the government get you a shelter? i think people are not aware of how populated jakarta are today. i think they are even lucky to be accepted to be entered in the city. and as you can see many donation came through to provide them some food and water. (Dinas Sosial tent was shown)
Refugees aren't allowed to hold jobs legally usually. Savings runs out. What are they to do? You can only go a few days without water and a few weeks without food.
Most of Asian Countries are not a signatory to accept refugees and those who go to such Country as refugee suffer a lot than their Country of origin. The host govt. Don't care them and they can't work.. The only money they get is meagre amount from UNHCR and they have to wait for years until UNHCR clear their case to migrate to third Countries.
They don't have freedom, people are hostile to them because they're seen as freeloaders and potential criminals. Do you really think social organizations helped much? Have you never heard how corrupt organizations like that can be?
@@bangtanarmy6221 look at sweden, you Will understand why the act like that, It really is turning into a shithole with the most rapes in a european country, a goverment that can't Pay more money to its refugees and having over 150 no-go zones
@@bangtanarmy6221 "dO you tHinK sOcIaL oRgAnIsAtIoN hElPeD mUcH" just stfu if you never watch the organisation In Indonesia trying to help them
“We don’t have food or water” How many times a day do you eat “Twice”
yeahh, I've lost respect for them🙄🙄
Me,im open for accepting refugees, ACTUAL REFUGEE, not some people claiming to be refugee just to take advantage of their host country welfare system. Country should help their citizen first then other people, if that country cant fully help their citizen why they should help people coming to their country most of the time illegally to boot.
This is why i think more country should adopt Japan's policy on refugee, they're checking wheter those people applying for refugee status are actually refugees or just economic migrant who will leech into their welfare system. Yes that'll take a long time but it'll guarantee (most of the time) that the refugees they're accepting are actual refugees.
Also Indonesia isnt a destination country, we dont ratify refugee treaty. We're not oblige to provide them anything, yet we providing them with anything they need. I've met with some of refugees back then (with G-men) to negotiate their living condition here, we offered that they will live in Kalimantan/Sulawesi countryside with around 1-2 Hectare of lands and some amount of money for living expenses until those land can provide them with crops that they can eat and sell for money (the assistance will be cut after 1 year). It's a good deal i tell you, yet they dont want to it, they just want welfare.
From time of Prophet Mohammad ansar and muhajir they even shared their own homes. I think you are not muslim or are you?
You're disgusting and shameful.
@@TheYavy we shared our home and our food. Based on the OP comment the goverment tried to give them land in kalimantan and give them some money until they can provide theirselves but they're refused that.
@@naristamonica6574 show a proof of that. Not just empty words
@@TheYavy then ask the OP not me. He/she is the one who said that. Besides we really share our food and land. Like right now we provide them with foods, water and place to sleep. It's not our problem if they're ungrateful about it and still wanting to go to australia. And they even talk bad about indonesia after a lot of helping from Indonesia.
It's not mentioned here but the fact that they do a protest to the government for not enough place, food, etc make people get pissed. It's already a good thing that we would accept them here, make an open donation for them and yet some of them still won't appreciate it. Even our citizen itself suffer with poverty and still manage to make money their best instead of protesting
Edit : most people come at me get mad about getting a money lol. Dude, if you're indonesian you'll know that you could easily get money here without work. Go help clean the mosque, there you go money. Go help the church while they have any event, there you go food! Ask the person at the mosque that you want to take care of that place, there you go a new home! Sell some trash and you'll get a money. Gosh, didn't you guys know that our indonesian brothers/sisters go through something worst than that? Life under the bridge with only a cardboard, eat garbage and yet still not protesting. PERIOD!
I know, yeah
So you want them to die quietly by starvation? Indonesia should not accept refugees if they can't treat them right.
@@eidem3363 are you even indonesian? Couldn't you see the government even gave them a place to stay? Imagine accepting someone in your house and they still not thankful lol, period.
Oh and it's easy to get money in indonesia, you could clean a mosque or something and there you go! Money! They didn't even do anything
@@eidem3363 we don't, that's why it's called transit country
@pixeu bro, they want to enter australia but get rejected and end up stranded in indonesia. Imagine somebody sleeping at your lawn and ask for food everyday. Did you okay with that? Indonesian gov already do what they can and still people just see it on the dark side.
I think this is serious problem, but please, refugees in my country, Indonesia 🇮🇩, don't think that we also have a severally problema, and this is responsibilities of the world, UNHCR must handle this situation. All peoples in the world, don't judges that our country is not emphaty, We are human, and need help one by one. Sorry, may be my English not fluently
Kami warga Indonesia pun ingin membantu, tanpa melihat alasan atau pun background masing-masing individu, mereka difasilitasi secukupnya, dan semampu pemerintah yang, orang indonesia sendiri pun masih ada yang kehilangan tempat berteduh dan pekerjaan, mereka beberapa kali mengeluh untuk yang lebih dari itu sementara kami negara berkembang, what you expect? Keluhan mereka bahkan jadi alasan beberapa orang kehilangan respect, stigma yang beda, culture yang beda dengan mereka dari negara asal dan dari kami Indonesia juga bukan hal yang bisa mudah diterima, dimana bumi dipijak disiti langit dijunjung, dengan keadaan yang tanpa pekerjaan itu juga bisa mempenggaruhi kesempatan untuk terjadinya hal2 yang tidak diinginkan, saya cuma berharap mereka segera ditempatkan ke negara tujuan untuk Memulai hidup yang baru, mendapatkan apa yang mereka butuh dalam situasi yang baik
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"Nobody. I don't have anybody." - that line killed me
Genuine question here: is there not a process done by the Indonesian government for verification? In the US, the refugee vetting process pre-Trump was 18 months long at minimum. God only knows what ridiculous hoops it has now. Obviously Indonesia is very far from the States but don't they also verify?
scarletglitter l Indonesia are not supposedly taking any refugees, these refugees wanted to enter AUS but got rejected, therefore they are stranded in another unwanted country, plus Indonesia does not have the law or legality to verify them. the adults refugees ask for more and “decent” facilities whereas Indonesian goverment is not bind any obligatory system to provide them. in other videos they actually own a motorcycle, renting an apartment, etc. Indonesia accept them in because they already inside.
lol we don't give a fcuk
He’s got somebody trust me ! He chose to country hop so it’s only his fault he is in that situation. He was relying on refugee laws and the generosity of Indonesia to help him. He’s not a citizen therefore not entitled to help from his host country. Many people like him are actors. Once they get what they want, they still return to their home countries !
mereka perlu dikasihani tapi mereka juga harus memiliki batas
Put pity to your own country's people...there are more homeless kid in indonesia too
Mereka sudah dibatasi. Tidak ada kebebasan untuk berpindah tempat dan tidak boleh mencari uang sendiri. Maka dari itulah mereka kehabisan tabungan dan ada terjadi kriminalitas.
@@bangtanarmy6221 fyi bagi pengungsi yg legal mereka mendapatkan bantuan tiap bulan dari pemerintah internasional
@@bangtanarmy6221 waktu di bbc ada yg komentar kalo mereka diberi bantuan kesehatan dan uang gak salah tiap bulan 5 juta
@@marintanur9954 yes I know, tapi masalah di penampungan seperti ini banyak korupsinya if you know what I mean. Dana yang seharusnya disalurkan biasanya seminim mungkin atau bahkan tidak ada.
I am more sorry for the local homeless here
Can you guys hire more proper journalist for the interview? because everytime you've posted a video about Indonesia, the information you provide looks like to shallow...
It always feels like Asian Boss wanted to portray Indonesia in a bad way.
@@perfj agree
@@perfj yes
Especially the reporter on this video, he has a poor confidence level.
Ale Channel yes. Exacyly. I always think the same. Shame Asian Boss
Its the same problem with Malaysia. Eventhough, they are given asylum, there aren't any benefits like Health , job and housing... and they find it hard to get work, so most have no choice but to do begging. it makes residents uneasy too if they wonder around and not sure if they are gonna steal or commit a crime. Its really sad for them. On one hand we pity them, but on the other hand we are also afraid. It's really sad because of their country situation 😔
Why goverment has to give them benefits for those people when they cant fully support their citizens?
They just dont want to work, they just want to leech into the welfare system, any actual refugee will try to work to get some money/food
How would you know someone is an "actual refugee"?
Be mindful that these people lost many family members and friends, travelled a long way with just clothes on their backs, and don't have basic necessities.
Even different animal species help each other, and they are better than us humans.
@@rebeccachia Goverment can do investigation, That's why they've got multiple bureau for investigating, helping people is a good deed. But there's a lot people trying to abuse that
I read about this in newspaper but listening to the opinions of citizens and story of that refugee makes it more understandable. I can understand their concern about crimes and stuff because sometimes adverse situations can really bring out the worst side of people but I also feel bad for those refugees like they have to flee their own land for protection ☹️ , I feel so grateful to god that I am born in a country where I have my fundamental rights and feel safe. I wish the best for people of Indonesia and those refugees.
They should go to your country 😏👍
@@sweetestbee our country is already populated
@@k.h5971 Indonesia is also over populated!!!! It's number 5 or 6 in the world
@@sweetestbee So is a lot Europe, including my country the Netherlands{Ironic in a video about Indonesia.} my country is the most densely populated country in Europe only global countries like South Korea, India and Bangladesh are comparable in terms of Population density, you can literally walk any direction here and end up in a village or town within 10 to 20 minutes.
The government actually supported massive emigration in the 60's and 70's because of the population boom, essentially my country would already be densely populated if it had somewhere in the area of Max 7 to 9 Million people, it is currently on track to have 18 Million people.
At this point it has wreaked havoc on what little nature we have left and the largest cities are expanding so much they are basically meeting and starting to form one gigantic blob of a city.
As for Migration we generally keep an open mind about it and allow Immigration but problems keep flaring up to the extend where parties specifically against Immigration are rapidly growing, my point is moral feelings are one thing, the reality of a lot of immigration is another thing, especially when a lot of migration happens and people are not integrated well as a result, also it is extremely hard to filter actual refugees from economic migrants, as an example during the Syrian refugee Crisis it became apparent only about 30% of people of people coming in were actually refugees and the rest were economic migrants taking advantage of the situation.
Also while it may sound logical rich countries take in a load of people, there is a massive problem here as well, not even adding the fact that crimes have spiked as a result of migration, but a major problem is education, the overwhelming majority of people entering end up on government welfare, healthcare and government housing{We already have a housing crisis and welfare and healthcare are rapidly becoming unaffordable} because they are not at all educated, barely educated or educated in an acceptable sense for their home country which generally is not enough in my country, resulting in them permanently staying on welfare or having to be re-educated which takes multiple years even if they do their best which is not often the case either.
My point is there is no easy fix for Migration, the only realistic long term fix is stabilizing countries of origin and creating opportunities, but then the inevitable question arises, who is responsible for this? I mean is it fair to ask stable countries to toss a load of money at other countries which don't function and likely wont function in the future?
@@sweetestbee I'm refugee and living in Indonesia 😅I live in complex with Indonesians they love my family and they give us food everything we go to school I am so grateful to Indonesians people and I think you guys are right to feel threatened from refugees I'm also thinking to go back to my country because it's safe now and I hope others too
I am not saying that i don't have any simphaty toward these refugees.
But as you can see our country still need a lot to work on.
And yet u expect us to take care of other country's citizen.
Be more open minded.
It is not like we want to see them stranded on the street.
But as a matter of fact we actually some serious situation that we currently face here ini indonesia.
So don't ever judge indonesia from one point of view.
Got it!!
Try to stroll around this country and as you being curious and see around the big cities . You will be able to see more serious situation and more worse than you already see in this video.
Wake up fellows.
I am not saying that we should not participate and give our contribution to save them.
But as you see that would be better if we can teach them how to get money rather than to give but never make any progress in solving their own problem.
Stand on your feet my fellows...
Big hug from indonesia...
no food nor water but iphones they do have
good eye, damn.
Wow, i didn't notice
Some of them has motorcycle, racing motorcycle, renting apartment, and I know some Asylum seekers who has gym membership
Who doesn't own a phone this day... Even if you want to criticize do it well
@@nospeaking6182 Would you rather eat, or have a phone that serves no purpose?
Indonesia is not a rich country. It has to still fulfill demands and address issues of its own people. For Leftists it will look like walking on cake to provide facilities to Indonesians and Refugees at the same time. Ik these refugees had a hard life back in their homeland and are looking for better life, but life of an Average Middle-income Indonesian isn't the best either.
They (refugees) can't expect an easy life in a countries that are struggling themselves to sustain life.
People who called Indonesia DISRESPECT them at all. Please proposing to your government to accept them in your country. We'd kindly send them to you. Indonesian's trying her best as a transit country even though It's not our responsibility. Look at Australia, they refused them and the refugees cannot do anything including my country. I beg you guys know they'd go to which country, then you ought to know every single country has its own problems.
Masih transit diindonesia kah?
In Italy it's the same... I feel so sorry for them. I worked in one of this centre for refugees, some of them were very nice guys, some others not... As the most of population despite his origin is. There are good and bad people... But here, we really lost our humanity and I am not referring only to Indonesia situation
The Indonesian government must be firm, each country must return, it will damage the view of Jakarta
I’m Indonesian, I also pity them and hope for a better treatment towards them and hope they can get a place where they can live freely, but need we to remind you is that our country is not a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention because there are still so many problems regarding Indonesian ourselves, there are still so many Indonesian who live worse than those refugees and our first priority is to fix our internal problems then help others. the UNHCR has to fix the problem as soon as possible, our government has already given so many help including shelters, foods, etc to the refugees while it is not our responsibility. Our government also have to protect the right of its citizens by forbiding the refugees to work ( if they don’t have a legal certification ) because the unemployment rate in our country is still high.
I can't imagine being in their shoes... living but not truly living, losing people you love in a war, fighting to stay alive in a different country without any resources but still being misunderstood by the majority. Indonesia is such a great country with kind people. I know there are also NGOs and volunteer groups who sympathize and try to help for free. I really hope the UNHCR will start to be more visible and active. I think Cultural Orientation on both locals and refugees will greatly help to avoid cultural clashes. And hopefully, the UN, government and NGOs can work together for a long term and not just band aid solutions. Spread love and not hate.✌️
Hi asian boss. This interview isn't too bad in quality, but I feel like the information or the question list from ramzy is not enough, I think he can digging it more and more, the way he interview people isn't in a good flow too. I hope you can get better journalist or maybe the real one to discover more about issues in Indonesia.
Agree. Everytime I watch AsianBoss video about Indonesia somehow I'm not satisfied with the questions and the answers. I dunno if the question list is not really good or the people he interviewed are too random.
what information? people's awareness or the refugees?
@@lockyantonius9895 I mean the information that we get from interview with refugees.
@@alkupraYT Yes, feels like the interviewer's question's too scripted and stiff.
Agree
Some people in my country misunderstood between foreign workers and refugees. That makes me sad.
In one side they always do demonstrations, protesting regarding freedom of Palestine, Afghanistan, Rohingnya, and others but in other side they reject and feel threatened by refugees.
Some of people in my country are really funny.
Anna Chan may I ask which country are you from?
Lol that's indonesia
This. Omg. They said they prioritize locals more than outsiders but yet domestic crime or harassment still happen anytime. Example: racism, religion discrimination.
lol... welcome to Indonesia...
No...mostly the one who reject them and make that banner is Chinese Indonesian people...
Love how the asian boss get covered from the both side... i hope we can get a clear solution about this, together.
next... maybe you must ask the citizens in indonesia about, KPI.
KPI ato PKI gan?
PKI please
@@marintanur9954 KPI heyy 😅
@@echoandalice1616 hmmmm
Heyyyyy wkkw
Indonesian government still have a lot of problems in suburban area, villages, and everywhere outside of Java. And sorry but i have to say that their (refugees) facilities are good enough, they have a big and clean shelter (its not even a really old abandoned building), lot of tents, toilets, water, and free food, many poor people and shelter for natural disaster across Indonesia didnt even have that facility
Hi all!
As someone who lives nearby this area I do have mixed feelings at first when I saw them. Only until I knew some of them in personal level that I’ve come to understand their circumstances.
Every refugees that come to Indonesia are not allowed to work at all. Even if they did, they will be sent back to their country. Even the children are not allowed to get education as well.
There are other cities in Indonesia other than Jakarta where they are sent too and they never have a choice which city they can be sent too.
All of them only wish to be sent to the next country as soon as possible in peace but in reality they need to wait roughly around 4-5 years until they are sent to next country and are forced to stay in host country (ex: Indonesia) without permit to find job or education.
After befriending them, I realise most of them harbour no hard feeling about Indonesia. It just that they are not given the rights to find their own living so most of them are feeling helpless about their situation.
I believe the easiest thing we can do are to give them our trust that they do not come as criminal but rather as normal people who are looking for better place to live without being life-threatened.
Maaf mbk yg saya tau itu bukan peraturan pemerintah tapi peraturan UNHCR yg melarang mereka bekerja. Yg mana Indonesia blm meratifikasi peraturan mengenai pengungsi, terutama Indonesia hanya negara transit jadi ga punya kewenangan terhadap mereka. Ini saja dibantu dengan perpres agar mereka bisa diurusi untuk sementara waktu
I'm sure most of them aren't there just to cause problem indonesia. Here in North Mexico Haitians were everyewhere years back, we weren't the richest country but we tried our best to give them the tools like (water, food, second hand cloth), today we can see a lot of them with jobs, not the best jobs (again, this is good because mexico has a lot of people with no work) or at least selling their stuff everywhere.
They're not criminals, maybe 1 or 2 of them are but not even 1% of them.
More than just stigmatizing them we should help them to have another chance in life, as we would help us if we were in their situation, not like a nationality, just like a person.
Indonesia couldn’t give them jobs nor these immigrants want to assimilate with the country since their destination is Australia. They are stranded in Indonesia because they are rejected by Australia or still waiting their permit to enter the country... forever. The locals become uncomfortable with these (illegal) immigrants since they feel that the immigrants badmouthing Indonesia and demanding more stuff which their government is not obligated to do so, but the UN’s responsibility.
well where do you think those refugee got their water, food and cloth? volunteer and donation from the locals, but they still persistant to mock us.
@@Ucuz_ and some of them has lived 7 years in indonesia, and indonesia had give the best we could. yet people just see we dont help them. as indonesian its so sad.
you need to understand that Indonesia is one of the most populated country in the world and Jakarta is one of the most populated city in the world too.
So, looking for a job is not even easy for Indonesian or Jakartan itself. At least look for another city to live.
We need to do a change in THEIR country. This can't keep going on like that
antara kasian dan gak nyaman sebenernya sih.. abis gimana ya kan emang negara tujuan mereka bukan indonesia jadi mereka gak bisa nuntut ini itu ke kita apalagi locals sendiri juga butuh banyak dukungan dri pemerintah
1:37-2:03 Faith in humanity restored. Well spoken and really appreciate his thoughts. 👏
He is speaking truth but not being realistic
Delusions restore faith?
Absolutely yes! :)
Yeah, he's the only one I adore in this video..
I can't imagine being in a situation like these people. My heart hurts for them, honestly. The thing is though, that it sounds like Indonesia doesn't even need to give them shelter but yet they did accommodate them (not a perfect place or a single home) but they are accommodated. Here though, in the U.S. the refugees that are trying to cross a boarder or cross it are literally put in a Cage, with silver blankets, no shower in days. I know it may sound a little harsh but they should be appreciative because they were able to at least leave the country that took so much from them.
They blame Indonesia for not giving them a luxury life. They seems to forget that Indonesia was only their transit country. Yet Australia, Their destination delay and doesn't want them to enter. And still Indonesia is on the blame for all of this situation. My country isn't that rich. Majority of our people living with minimum wage and poverty still our no 1 problem, So much for Indonesia to handle. These refugees are so ungrateful. Hopefully Australia will accept them soon. Tbh it's sad for them, they must be so confused and hopeless.
And what's more funny? In a YT channel also did an interview with the refugees in Indonesia, These refugees said Indonesia is a poor country and they compare Indonesia to those developed countries lol.
@@pegatbatumbukofficial6112 link dong gan
@Marlia Brillantes ahahah can't agree more
Personally I think it’s selfish to burden another country and use their resources meanwhile complaining about the host country.
Why dont we create a refugee town in russia, that country is so big and empty
The5GIO5 🤣🤣
russia have a right to protect their country with their own law and you don't want mess with russian, and another reason it's geographically i guess, many russia region is extremely cold, not even many plants or animal could live there, these refugees are not going to survive in few days
@Sourav Kumar Why do you feel offended by my imaginary scenario?
@@elisdeliofa5570 Why do you feel offended by my imaginary scenario?
The UN should just build an artificial island to host refugees
LOST RESPECT
Udah numpang mintanya air bersih, makanan, layanan kesehatan, tmpat tinggal yg nyaman, bahkan minta layanan pendidikan.
Heeey nyadarrr situ numpang bukan pelanggan... dan kita bukan pelayan..
Disini udh gratis masih ngelunjak, gelandangan aj gaada yg bisa mandi, tidurnya kolom jembatan, gada layan ksehatan plagi pddikn. Glandangan gaada yg seberuntung lu.. bhkan lu makan aj masi enak dr uluran tangan masyarakat, nah glandangan orek" tempat sampah cuy...
mereka ga bawa apa2 dr negaranya. Cba lo mikir di posisi mereka. Indonesia juga bukan mereka tuju cma negara transit aja.
Njirrr dalem bgt,, tpi mereka ngungsi kan bukan kemauan mereka jg...
@@aahh8850 itu dia, udh nyampe di negara transit yg ga ratifikasi international agreement on immigrant masih minta segala macem. Coba aja lu namu ketempat keorang yg ga lu kenal orangnya jg ga kenal sama lu, terus lu minta makan, tempat, semuanya.
Bakal lu kasih? ga akan bro.
Setuju banget. Masyarakat kita masih banyak yg gak punya rumah dan makan seadanya. Lah ini pengungsi sudah hidup cukup, masih saja mengeluh
@@blankblank1949 Klo yg gw tau, kebanyakan pengungsi itu berasal dr timur tengah dan afrika utara. Nah mereka itu menarget ke australia. Hanya saja, klo lo tau australia sama indonesia itu punya kerjasama hitam soal pengungsian yang mana pengungsi yg menuju ke australia, klo terdampar ke indonesia ditahan. Australia memberikan uang ke indonesia utk ngurusin tuh pengungsi drpd tuh pengungsi jd tanggung jawab australia, hanya saja tau sendirilah klo indonesia itu pasti duitnya diemplep. Klo nyampe pun bakal diseret ke solomon atau papua nugini. Mereka juga ngungsi karena keadaan kacau kebanyakan, kacau tidak hanya dalam perang, tapi jg ekonomi. Menurut gw UNHCR ini PHP bgt, masa pengungsi dianggurin di negara non-UNHCR, otomatis mereka jg perlu buat kelangsungan hidup
N for information..this refugees is only in Jakarta itself..we hv another refugees in most of indonesian’s island. If u think indonesia never gv enough, u should think how many donation go through that refugees every single day in all island. But there are no a single thank u for indonesia. If u go through all indonesian citizens, there are people who doesn’t hv a home at all n live on the street with no food n water. Not even mention the one who live in the village n hardly get good education. This interview is just showing a slight truth about what’s really happening in real life.
Can they just say 'thank you'? Indonesians are super kind to give them place, food, and even medicines. I watch some interviews bout them and feel super upset bout their comments bout my country
meanwhile south koreans wondering why they hate ronaldo when theres real problem like this lmao
Put them all beetween 16.000 island in indonesia, live in a village, or maybe create your own village. It sound impossible but that's what i think for solution. Indonesia alrrady have so many population. number 4 on the most crowded country. Indonesia also didn't have much savings like US or other rich country. You're actually should be grateful having place to stay and eat 2 times per day. There's a lot indonesian who still live on the street and even barely to eat.
No, if we do it, they will make that island become their own country, make their own system.
I hope it never happen
That's not the best solution. UNHCR should keep them all, not Indonesia government
And in 200 years they will become the next rohingya
I'm Indonesian and I personally disagree with refugees *in Jakarta*.
Jakarta is *too* populated. Other city or island might be better.
You MEaN OthER CoUNtRY?
@@uzuhahimawari3921 other city bruh. We got lots of places in indonesia that has way fewer people in the city.
@@laurenelily2997 if he disagree with refugees in Jakarta then I disagree with refugees in Indonesia. Thats why I said "Other Country"
@@uzuhahimawari3921 he disagree because jakarta is overpopulated. If we add more people, more problems will appear. It would be better if they were to be moved to another city in Indonesia. Not because he doesnt want any refugees in Indonesia.
Yes, they could transfer them to a different place, teach them skills and allow them to earn for themselves and contribute to the country eventually (of course it taked time due to legal and political issues).
Can they solve their own country problem? Right~
We/ancestor,hero/ have a bloody fight before and after our independent, and a lot of conflict just to stand. +Its really hard because the colonization for 3 centuries. But we did it in the end.
Thar poor Sudanese fellow looks like he's lost his mind. So much sorrow in his eyes. Makes me so sad.
Flower child He should have used the UNHCR or United Nations for help rather then risking living in a. Country he has no income support.
Me too 😭
He doesn't have to say a word. His eyes said so much. I am indonesian felt so sad for him. At least now he is safe in indonesia.
The problem is many of the refugees aren't grateful and expect more and more from us. We are really happy to help u guys, I mean we don't have to let u in, but u are already here anyway. But is it enough? Nope, u want Houses? Organic meal? Free education in all-Indonesian schools?
I dnt care if u guys were rich back in ur countries, but u have to get it, U ARE JUST A REFUGEE. We have our own domestic problem, u want facilities? WORK FOR IT! We ain't rich country, why u guys expect more?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they forbidden from getting jobs?
Subtitle at 5:05 is not accurate. This is what the guy said.
"Yes, personal troubles. For example, maybe he was shunned by his own country, so he ran away, even if his country is not actually in conflict."
That's the special feature of Asian Boss, the-alittlebitofftranslation 😂
Asianboss, I salute your bravery covering all these. Its potentially life threatening, so thank you and your team for taking the risks to bring about awareness.
When did the South Sudanese stop seeking refuge in neighboring countries like Kenya!! Oh, because we don't have freebies!!.
From what I watched, most of the interviewed (if not all) didn't understand about this refugee thing. They just heard about it from social medias and some rumours, and made their own assumptions. For example that guy who said he felt threatened because they might steal his job. This guy is probably one of those men shouting "Aseng! Aseng!" (a slang for aliens/non Indonesian) when he saw a Chinese Indonesian with better living condition than him. Also that blurred girl, she's most likely the superficial type that judge everyone based on their appearance yet she claimed "I don't want to judge". These refugees are not here to stay, they're stranded here while waiting for permission to enter their actual destination.
I'd love it if Asian Boss actually interviewed someone with knowledge on this issue, someone who could express their opinions in neutral way and maybe asked them what they think the UN should do, why Indonesia have to take care of them and why they think Australia (or wherever they wanted to go) is delaying their plan.
No Body yeah I agree with you, so many of us still has a low understanding about refugees, but maybe because our country is not yet designated to be a refugee-welcome country ( considering our country is not a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention ) so it’s understandable for them to have a low understanding on it, I also agree that He should ask the interviewees about what should the UNHCR do
@Tobby Isiba I do agree that some did committed crime, but have you ever wondered why? They ran out of savings, there's not enough food to feed people in refugee. They didn't use what they steal for drugs or entertainment unlike the begal out there, they didn't steal because they want to - they have to in order to survive. They survived the war in their country not to starve to death here. The question should be, how can we help; what the UN, Indonesia and Australia should do.
@@murgarana8999 I'm not asking the government to give a temporary solution like that. Instead of improving the shelter, government and the UN should investigate on this case as to why they're not transferred yet. Indonesia is just acting as transit country here. And unfortunately, these refugees don't really have 2 meals per day. Social organizations are corrupt, they don't actually provide help to these refugees.
You asked what they contribute to us, but have you ever asked how our Indonesian people who migrated and Indonesian refugee being treated out there? Yes, they do exist, there's a lot of us Indonesian who fled from Indonesia because of unfortunate events and treated as bad as these refugees.
@@adimahandi7789 maybe they could interview people from business area next time, I want to see what people with stability thinks
@@bangtanarmy6221 thank you!
4:47 Yup, the old classic con:
1) Call yourself a refugee to gain entrance into a country
2) Live in an decrepit government building for 7 years
3) ...
4) Profit?
1:38 He is the kind of person who speaks by their heart only .
Yeah but he is not being realistic
baper :v
@@anzai5552 Realistic in what sense? He just says that he feels bad that some of them may have been well off but now all of them are all refugees
@@harshitpandey638 u don't event know how this refugee problem In indonesia, I'f the goverment don't feel bad all of them not event allowed stay in here unlike australi lol
"Do you accept refugees ?"
"No, but they can live here" 😐
Thank you Indonesia for letting them transit. Love frm India
Yeah, but they're very ungrateful and always demanding something even the citizens themselves wouldn't. They're aware that Indonesia is only a transit country yet they demand the government to give them all the facilities that the citizens have as if Indonesia has the obligation to do so.
Finally someone brought this up!
People need to help refugee. But there are a lot of people who are just showed up in the border without legal documents and screaming for asylum. At the end of the day these people are just a mere economic migrant exploiting the privilege of refugee status. It burdens the country which hosts them and it hurts the real refugees who are really threatened and really need help from international community.
Ever wonder why these "refugees" dare to travel really long distance just to get to the wealthy countries? just think about it.
i get where the locals come from, jakarta is beyond crowded as it is.. but my heart clenched n tears rolling down once the guy started speakㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ why am i not a millionaire, at least i could give them food n waterㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅠㅠㅠㅜㅜㅜ
What's even more painful is that they live just 2.5 miles away from where I live. I see their camps near the pedestrian and children sitting under trees that aren't big enough to shade them all. It aches me that all I can do is offer them food and water.
Masih ga sekarang?
THEY WANT TO GO TO AUSTRALIA NOT INDONESIA... THEY'RE FRAUD. ASK THEM,THEY DON'T CONSIDER INDONESIA AS THE LAST Destination they want to go to to Australia... please get the fact straight
While i pity the refugees, there are a lot of people in Indonesia living without proper access to clean water source and basic electricity, I don't see how it is fair for the people of Indonesia to prioritise the wellbeing of refugees ahead of their own people. They need help from richer countries, which currently are not willing to lend help. Please view this issue in a wider perspective and stop putting the blame on Indonesia. In my opinion they're already doing good by accepting them in the first place when the country has so many ingrained problems that are bothering their own citizens for decades.
As Indonesian, I think that this video can't describe how Indonesian thinks about refugees, as you might knows Indonesia have so many different culture, and the response about refugees issues can be different too. All I know about this issue in my opinion Indonesia government already give them "sympathy, humanity" by accept them to live in Indonesia, but if you they think the facilities still inadequate, because overall Indonesian themselves still facing so many basic problem, like hunger issues , poverty issues etc, so all I want to tell to you whoever that watched this video, Indonesian represented by government have done their best to accommodate them, so they can live their life without life threatened, so I hope you guys know that this is what Indonesian can do for refugees
This is soo sad , I can't believe they're living like that, have no jobs and there are children there as well. Forget all about the paper and stuff , after all we all human beings in this small world. I respect that my country has tried to help them although not much, but I really hope whoever responsible for the paper /application or whatever can work this out faster. These ppl really need help. We're all human beings: just like us they also need better lives.
I'm South African, and we have a similar problem, because we have a huge influx of (legal and illegal) immigrants, despite being a very poor country. I greatly pity the refugees but there isn't much Indonesian people can do because they are no where near a first world country. I believe Australia needs to get involved if they really care, because they at least have the money to help. The same to other first world countries that agreed to take on refugees.
South Africa is actually quite developed in continent
@@PissMenn While SA is one of the most developed countries in Sub Saharan Africa, it is still lacking greatly
Bikin Kumuh Aja Di Jakarta, DI Jakarta Aja Banyak Orang Gelandangan Dan Yang Lain", Blom Tauran, Kalo Ente" Semua Mau Hidup Enak Mending Pindah Aja Ke Negara Yang Mau Mengurusi Kalian Semua! Maaf Kalo Kalimat Buruk!!
Nazri Nazasyah | lagian Indonesia bukan negara penampung yang diputuskan PBB, sebenarnya mereka harus ke Australia.
@@darkshine4813 kirim aja ke PNG😊
Solusi terbaik mungkin sebaiknya mereka dipekerjakan dibidang pertanian dgn pengawasan pemerintah , agar tidak merugikan negara .
Mendingan dibuang ke pulau yang masih kosong buat tempat settle sementara
"third country like Australia"
that's new
😭😭
Hi, Please make Asian Boss Portugués, there is a lot of Asians in Brazil, thanks
like indonesia people or other
@@bbmbbm2342 I've never seen any indonesians in Brazil, just japanese, chinese, korean and indians(rare) people.
but brazil isn't asia ._.
_-
Brazil is not part of Asia
Here in Italy the situation Is similar and also politicians are doing bad spots about them.....poor People...poor africans....Is a bad history time for them..🙏🙏
It brokes my heart💔
Mereka harusnya sadar Indonesia itu HANYA SEBAGAI TEMPAT TRANSIT, kita kasih penampungan aja harusnya mereka bersyukur. Complain kita ga manusiawi? Complain gak bisa cari kerja? WAJAR. Karena nasib mereka juga masih terombang-ambing, mereka lama tertahan disini juga ya karena Australia sendiri gak mau nerima mereka. Tolong ya pikir2 lagi harusnya para imigran ini bersyukur masih bisa hidup walaupun serba terbatas di Indonesia. Jadi please jangan jelek2in negara yang sudah ngasih kebaikan 😖 (source youtube dari BBC Indonesia)
im the first!
the Last scene made me cry 😢
Cry? They are living as refugees instead they still producing babies, smh
never been so early like this
As an Indonesian citizen i thanked asianboss for bringing me news that i dont knoww
They are NOT refugees, they are country shoppers. They have passed perfectly good countries to get to Indonesia.
310 views and 36 likes wow ♥️
It's sad that very few people take interest in this kind of content...
I think we need places in the countrysides where they can grow their own foods etc and sell their goods. A lot of times ppl have been burnt by trying to help. If there was such a place and families could be "adopted" or sponsored then that would work; then the Gov of these countries flooded by refugees could help within their means.
sekarang pengungsian itu mau ke aussie ya kirim aja ke aussie itu pun kalo aussie mau terima
miara beginian bakal jadi bom waktu
Because of poverty they moved to another country to find a job but not everyone had an opportunity 💔
I don't believe in real refugees anymore, maybe 5% of all refugees in the world really need it.
The rest just wants to go to a western country to profit from the wellfare system.
@paisleyyama You know that western countries send their broken phones to africa where they are repaired by locals and then sold cheap? Especially iPhones - there are documentations about all this.
Also, if I was in their situation I wouldn't give up the last chance to communicate with the outside world or the last relatives unless I was at the brink of dying.
I feel sorry for them. Stranded in a foreign country without money, job, shelter for 7 years.
I hope UNHCR do something about it
The problem is indonesia itself is struggle to give indonesia citizen self good life.
I feel bad to them but if you want to know i lived in South sulawesi, makassar, there is a lot of refugees and they got better than local. If you want to know they got a better place, got paid around 3million rupiah each month . For local 3million rupiah its too much, local need to work hard to get paid at much, and see? They got it for free. I think they should be grateful than complaining about facility e.t.c
why you are lying where this 3 million come from?
@@rezabakhshi im living near them. And my friend always take a chit chat . The money from i dont know maybe we call it pbb . Its not from local government money ofc
@@rezabakhshi you should come here and look by yourself
@@daydreamer9027 anjing
i compliment w refugee but then again i also need to look out for my country..we r not the 1stworld country whr ppl hv good jobs n everything..ppl say they don't feel threatened because they can't work thr..the truth is...the govn dont really come clean w this..in my country also lot of ppl foreigners open up stalls n hinder the working opportunity for the locals..govern didnt take any action against this. i can completely understand the locals concern.
its not as easy as u say guys. Indonesia is only a transit country for those refugees. Indonesia did not trow their ships away to the sea, we accept them here, but they should be realized that Australia ignored them of coming to their land. Its complicated tho, they do not want to return to their homeland because of war. if any of you guys from a better country, you might want bring them to ur country and giving them the job.
Praying for you guys.
SEND them back
Agree...those african MEN should fight for their own freedom not become beggar and demanding free stuff everywhere
@@elisdeliofa5570 instead of hiding behind the internet, you should go to sudan and see for yourself how the genocides are.
naturalisasi aja pengungsi asal afrika jadi timnas sepak bola indonesia 😁
See, there’s broadly two justified sides to the issue. Should we relent to the refugees, who are war-torn and displaced and fragile, or insist on our well-being, because their influx infringes on our work? A country is meant to serve its people, but till what time can it accept other people as its people too? It’s honestly really morally perplexing, because you can’t argue that either side is totally wrong.
Truth is we can't prosper while our neighbors suffer. Conflict areas invite more conflict because the more desperate people get, the more desperate things they're willing to do. Many of these lands are rich in natural resources, and the trouble makes them ripe for exploitation of those resources. Our world is so interconnected now. My neighbor's well-being is my well-being.
scarletglitter That’s not a truth, it’s an opinion. It may be truth to you, but I could easily argue that I can’t contribute to my neighbour’s welfare before I can do my own. Everything’s not black and white.
scarletglitter l and there’s also the fact that many of these conflict areas don’t invite invaders. In fact, in many of these areas, the violence is inflicted by those within. Internal and political unrest cannot be withstood by many refugees, rather than an external colonisation. Frankly there’s not been many colonisations ever since the British Empire crumbled, although there have been a few.
Mau bantu dengan pulangkan mereka ke negara asalnya; nanti malah dibunuh gara2 ada konflik negara. Disediakan tempat penampungan, dan blabla sebagainya but, hey!
Negara ini sendiri pun, penduduknya banyak yang miskin, homeless, jobless, jombloness (gak), yang harusnya sih rakyat kita itu lebih diutamakan daripada imigran yang "kemungkinan" dibuang sama negaranya sendiri. Speechless aku waktu mereka yang imigran ini malah dikasih fasilitas tempat penampungan. Just wtf, sementara orang2 lokal yang homeless malah dibiarin luntang-lantung di jalan...
Tapi karena most of Indonesian itu punya rasa kasihan.... Jadi serba salah. Ga ditolong nanti auto masuk neraka.
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