“Piggybacking” RAM chips goes back to the days of 8bit & 16bit home micro computers, so it’s not a new concept but it’s cool to see an old hack like this still being handy & fun to do. Great video, thanks.
I wish this comment was higher, it's awesome this trick is being brought back but it is also on some level concerning that younger folk could see a concept this 'simple' and immediately surmise that it was never thought of before/just discovered for this first time
Awesome stuff! The fact that you are providing a guide for difficult, small percentage mods is great for preserving older consoles even if they are less sought after for modders. I thankfully had 2 Xbox OGs with blown caps and defective HDDs restored and modded locally, although I don't currently have much use for them. it would be cool to see a totally wreaked Xbox getting restored, im sure there are tons like mine out there.
Having failed to install a GBHD due to not being able to solder the tiny part of the ribbon cable to the GBA chip, I just want to say how impressed I am with your skills, Tito. Jealous, too lol
@@mirabilis I need to get some liquid flux, because the flux pen I have wasn't working very well. The ribbon might be fine, and the GBA isn't busted, I just gave up after not being able to get every point soldered to the chip haha
@@Ag89q43G0HyA Depends on the game. Not all necessarily can automatically scale their needs past 64MB. Some are hard coded and need to be hacked which is well beyond me. I would assume we can patch just about anything to run at a higher resolution than it did at retail simply because we do have double the RAM available. That doesn't guarantee the GPU will like that at all or the CPU will hold up it's end of the bargain.
Truly groundbreaking. Modding community have come very far in just 4 years. Back then we used to say that the gb color was impossible to backlight the screen.
no. I honestly cannot believe that you can literally stick two ram modules on top of each other, and it actually works, that is literally the most crazy thing I have heard all month.
Modded-ish my MSI GL65 Leopard i7 10750H, 2060RTX laptop. MSI left the pads for a 2nd m.2 drive so I added the 10 caps, the m.2 connector, and the nvme hold down stud. Once done, I threw in a 2TB stick and now have a dedicated drive for my games. Was lucky my laptop version had the pads still, some laptop reviewers showed one on the locations without them.
Amazing work! Honestly, I'm impressed by how many of these videos you can put out, between not only doing the mods, but also having to film everything and produce the video... I made a simple one of the installation of the PicoBoot since there weren't any in my language, and it took me an entire month working the hardest I've ever worked lol
Funny, I knew exactly where you were going with the solution on how to expand the RAM because of a video I very recently saw on Adrian Black's channel where he assured viewers that the piggybacked chips on some old hardware he was looking at were actually stock.
This took me back!! I started my dive into my development career starting with modding my original Xbox! I used to visit XBINS IRC and download a bunch of homebrew games like X Bomberbox and did a bunch of Halo modding :)
Do you still have any halo 2 mods like the fun ones we used to get banned with? Super speed super jump Etc. every where I used to get them are now archives with no links.
@@kiellmorphet262 Haha none of those types of mods! Didn't have Xbox Live either so they were mostly silly things, like putting a Wraith cannon on a Warthog 😂 I remember one of my close friends on the modding forum was able to add AI Elites to a multiplayer map and that was a huge event in my mind! They had full lobbies of people playing against Elites lol
When you said the pads were not there the first thing I was thinking was that they probably piggybacked the chips on top of the existing once. Since they probsbly only need separate enable lines. Going to watch the rest of this video anyway :D
Two additional pros I feel you missed: 1: The 1.6 Xbox tends to run cooler and has the newest hardware (also no clock cap that explodes) so is arguably superior. 2: The RAM upgrade (regardless of Xbox version) does allow for higher quality videos to be played in XBMC, which can be a decent benefit if you're using your Xbox as a bit of a media machine.
The clock caps in 1.6 systems are considered "less leaky" when compared to other generations, they still have clock caps and they still can leak. The big problem you run into is 1.0-1.5 systems can run without a clock cap (modded) while 1.6 systems require the cap, so if your cap starts leaking your only option is replacing it with a new one. I just had to go through my units to check / remove caps, two 1.4's and two 1.6's.
This reminds me I really need to get a mod chip for my 1.6 xbox since there's no easy way to just flash the bios on that model and at some point the hard drive is going to die. At least I don't have to worry about a clock capacitor destroying it since it's the only model without one.
Just softmod and swap the drive, I have two 1.6 systems that are going strong with new HDD's thanks to the Rocky5 method 👍 you can get a kit on eBay with everything you need (USB flash drive with save exploit, USB to XBOX cable, and a physical copy of an exploit friendly game) for $20-$30, then you use CHIMP with a new drive and your set! A 2tb HDD with a Startek SATA to IDE adapter, plus a new 80pin IDE, is what I would recommend, though you can go cheap if you're in a pinch. 1.6 systems also have clock caps, they're just considered "less leaky" when compared to 1.0-1.5 systems. The problem is, 1.0-1.5's can run without a clock cap (modded), a 1.6 can't. If yours ever stops working, you'll have to swap it with a new cap.
piggyback is the term and I done this many times on old 8bit and 16bits systems. Heck it's also a way to troubleshoot old arcade systems. I did this a few years ago. With the chip select lines I used a older revision motherboard to find where they were located and used a buffer to protect things. I don't have the ROM anymore for it. I only used that xbox for running Linux.
A big reason many didnt like the v1.6 back in the day was because MS used memory chips of varying quality to keep up with demand or save costs. There are v1.6 xbox with low quality memory might only ran 180MHz instead of the original 200MHz of prior xbox versions. The 1.6 bios tests on boot to see how high the memory can stably run from 200MHz to 180Mhz in steps of 5MHz if i remember correctly. So there could v1.6 xbox's out there with up to 10% lower performance in some games, its crazy to me actually.
oof. You'd have measurably decreased performance in just about every game, but unless you put a 200mhz next to a 180mhz system you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I guess they're bending the limits of what's considered acceptable to the public.
I wonder if it would be possible to go beyond 128mb's of ram using this idea. it's crazy, that the OG community is still very active, and i suspect they will be for many years to come.
Combining this with a 1.4GHz Tualatin Pentium 3 (or if you're adventurous, a 1.5GHz Tualatin Celeron) would allow you to theoretically run the software one of those red and grey media center Xbox consoles can. It also makes XBMC4Xbox and emulation/homebrew even better.
I've modded lots of 1.0-1.4 consoles with the extra ram but am yet to try a 1.6. I must source some more ram chips and give it a try soon. Nice video :)
I recently bought a crystal xbox for dirtcheap, 25 euro with all cables, 2 crystal controllers and a stack of games ... and I intend to mod the snot out of it. Already replaced the stock fan with a Noctua fan and bought an Aladdin mod chip. Also got a donor Xbox lying around with a broken disc drive that would be perfect to harvest the RAM from and put it in my crystal xbox. I can't wait to start working on it hehe. Thanks for another great vid Tito ;)
Nowadays I use it to play a bunch of games in 720p or sometimes widescreen where before they weren't compatible (running the 720p mods on most games before would crash the system due to the ram cache being too small)
I have done more than 65 xbox 1.0 to 1.4/1.5 128mb upgrade and never thought that this could be possible, good on you mate!! I have an xbox 1.6 and I will do that as well, thank you for this great tutorial!! Amazing...
Man I love how niche this is,. I just found out that their are XBOX players on the PSO Server that I play on, which is so cool! Any Phantasy Star Online players still active here?
That's how it was done all the time in 80s home computers. Now seeing, that this was considered as 'impossible' before, is another example on how quick human wisdom still gets lost every day, even within just a few decades. From this tought, I am pretty sure, that neary anything we learn about past centuries and millenia being absurdly wrong ..
No love for Dustin or Redherring32? This was discussed as possible before P. Man proved it. Phenom Mod and Dustin also have modules if anyone ever needs a backup to Modzville! And you didn't mention the homebrew that can take advantage of the upgraded memory, as well as patches of retail games, which sometimes work okay and sometimes are terrible. Honestly, it was cool to see this in the video, I knew it was possible for a while now, but I never took the time to look into how to do it. Now that I know what this entails, I can't wait to do this to a 1.6!
@@MachoNachoProductions I was Into GameCube. I guess I'm a Nintendo "fan boy" only in the sense that most games I like/liked tend/tended to be on nintendo products
Ive seen some 1.4 ghz CPU upgrades for OG Xbox and Halflife 2 runs like butter compared to the original CPU. It literally makes the OG Xbox more powerful than the WII
I think the other pro that you missed is the added experience doing this gives you. If you can complete it, it makes your next soldering job that little bit easier to perform.
You are such a hidden gem. Top grade camera work and such interesting topics you deserve so much more subscribers. I believe you are going to blowup real soon 😉.
Just remembered there's a pro to the 1.6 revision Xbox. It doesn't have the clock capacitor battery issue that could render your console unplayable (I know this because of Cvit's video on the Dino Crisis trilogy. Where he had to get an OG Xbox for the third game since it's not backwards compatible with the Xbox 360)
I thought this was going to be too much work before I realized you have to do this with four chips. My hands feel strained just watching this. So many tiny little pins.
This is pretty cool I wonder if this could lead to a way to possibly get more than 128 MB of RAM on older consoles? It's definitely Overkill and probably wouldn't serve much purpose but it would definitely be cool and you would definitely have bragging rights being able to claim you have 256 MB of RAM (maybe even possibly more) in your original Xbox.
@@sebastianjanczyk6191 Thank you. May I ask another question? I know that there are different compositions for different use cases (R/F solder, microelectronics soldier, copper welding soldier, etc.). What distinguishes a good microelectronics solder alloy from a bad one?
@@Psychx_ when you use a bad one you need to increse the temperature and also use a lot more flux to achieve the same results, or it will weld and cause cold solder joints
If you have a means to calibrate your iron, do so first. Find yourself a old scrap PCB and increment from 275°C by 5 or so until you get to a temperature that will reliably allow you to flow the solder joints. The old solder will have enough crust and contaminants to make your iron work. Once satisfied, try something with a big ground plane and try out your boost if you have it. You want to go with your min working temperature so it will give you more time before you burn away your flux, especially if you're new.
Omg great work Tito! I have been been really frustrated because I keep fragging my Xbox and it looks perfect I cannot get the LPC reboard to work either (modchip led or red and then will go green and back to red) so I'm also going to remove it now I think. I've been really stubborn and felt like I was going crazy or something, so glad to know you had to rebuild yours!
There is also the RAM Delimiter tool which patches Xbox games to use more than 64MB. As others have mentioned, this allows some games to be run at higher resolutions. Futurama is the first one to my mind as the RAM upgrade can allow it to run at 720p. Personally, I’ve been interested in seeing whether it makes a difference to Morrowind performance.
Someone *"Discovered Chip-Stacking"?* 😂 Commodore 64 Hardware hackers were doing this back in the mid 1980's with the *Commodore REU's* Did this very thing myself using a 1764 and ran my Color64 BBS off of it (power trace on the REU cut and powered separately with a battery back up) then, I got a SuperRAM-Card and a *WHOOPING 20Mb HD!!!*
I’d imagine that the home theater PC users booting into Linux would get a smoother / more performant experience because the Xbox doesn’t have to swap virtual memory as often
I'm out. (slaps money on table and storms off) I've heard of other applications for the 128MB mod, including patches for existing games that improve their performance, but that is a whole lot of work for extremely limited applications. I don't think I need Bloody Roar Extreme in 720p quite that badly. Prehistoric Man, heh. That's my favorite Titus game.
I don't think anyone with the know how thought this mod was "impossible" just not practical. Short of Microsoft redesigning the silicon there was always a chance to upgrade the RAM it just wouldn't have been pretty or easy. This is far from what I'd call difficult but it's also not nearly as easy as modding any other XBox revision which is why I think regular folk called it "impossible". Really cool someone worked it out finally! I'd like to give it a try but finding legit RAM has gotten harder here a year later.
Now that stacking has been discovered, what’s stopping you from installing 256MB in the earlier revisions? You, stack the other revisions? Impractical, yes, but quadrupling the RAM? America, baby.
I basically taught myself watching videos on RUclips and practicing on real hardware. I highly recommend watching some videos from Voultar and eevvlog. Also on Amazon you can buy cheap soldering practice kits to practice you on. Cheers buddy!
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“Piggybacking” RAM chips goes back to the days of 8bit & 16bit home micro computers, so it’s not a new concept but it’s cool to see an old hack like this still being handy & fun to do.
Great video, thanks.
Yes i got a device that piggyback ram. My Hp 71b calculator/computer does
how is it fun to do? are you daft?
Glad you enjoyed the video! It’s definitely a pretty cool method of adding ram
@@rachelannkrueger7638 very cool.
I wish this comment was higher, it's awesome this trick is being brought back but it is also on some level concerning that younger folk could see a concept this 'simple' and immediately surmise that it was never thought of before/just discovered for this first time
Awesome stuff! The fact that you are providing a guide for difficult, small percentage mods is great for preserving older consoles even if they are less sought after for modders. I thankfully had 2 Xbox OGs with blown caps and defective HDDs restored and modded locally, although I don't currently have much use for them. it would be cool to see a totally wreaked Xbox getting restored, im sure there are tons like mine out there.
agreed! Have not seen to many of these out in the wild.
Having failed to install a GBHD due to not being able to solder the tiny part of the ribbon cable to the GBA chip, I just want to say how impressed I am with your skills, Tito. Jealous, too lol
Thank you so much bucktwenty! Definitely got here with tons of practice. I’m sure you can do it too with the right amount of practice. Cheers buddy!!
Practice my guy, also make sure you invest in decent equipment
Scrub 💅
Flux is the secret sauce.
@@mirabilis I need to get some liquid flux, because the flux pen I have wasn't working very well. The ribbon might be fine, and the GBA isn't busted, I just gave up after not being able to get every point soldered to the chip haha
Higher resolution game patches are also another main advantage of installing this mod. Enabling XBMC4XBox to play more file types in HD as well.
could they be programmed to handle 128 mb?
@@Ag89q43G0HyA Depends on the game. Not all necessarily can automatically scale their needs past 64MB. Some are hard coded and need to be hacked which is well beyond me. I would assume we can patch just about anything to run at a higher resolution than it did at retail simply because we do have double the RAM available.
That doesn't guarantee the GPU will like that at all or the CPU will hold up it's end of the bargain.
Can someone one who has these upgrades tell us if halo ce runs with the pentium III. Is it a smoothe gameplay with compatability mode?
MVG is going to be extremely happy when he sees this video haha.
I hope so 😁
I see you are a man of culture.
Still waiting for MVG comment
Never would have thought you could stack RAM chips to get more RAM. This was quite an interesting video!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!!
I would probably add a little bit of thermal paste between the chips just to be sure that the bottom one is not cooked too much.
Great to see the love the OG Xbox continues to get from the modding community. Beautifully done my man!
Thank you dude! 🙏 totally agree man! og Xbox is definitely getting some much deserved love. Cheers buddy!
I cant speak for the rest of society but the collaboration within the tech community is always astounding!!!
100% agree!!
Truly groundbreaking. Modding community have come very far in just 4 years. Back then we used to say that the gb color was impossible to backlight the screen.
I know dude! It’s crazy how fast things are moving. I’m having a hard time keeping up 😅
DAMN DUDE, YOU DID IT! Great work brotha :D
Thanks buddy! Your Aladdin mod chip came in clutch! Cheers dude!
no. I honestly cannot believe that you can literally stick two ram modules on top of each other, and it actually works, that is literally the most crazy thing I have heard all month.
Haha, it totally surprised me too!
It seems such a simple idea but the work that went in to discovering this must be so much more. Excellent video as usual Tito, thanks for the content!
Thank you so much🙏Glad you enjoyed this one 😁
Modded-ish my MSI GL65 Leopard i7 10750H, 2060RTX laptop. MSI left the pads for a 2nd m.2 drive so I added the 10 caps, the m.2 connector, and the nvme hold down stud.
Once done, I threw in a 2TB stick and now have a dedicated drive for my games.
Was lucky my laptop version had the pads still, some laptop reviewers showed one on the locations without them.
I wouldn't have risked tbhh
Amazing work! Honestly, I'm impressed by how many of these videos you can put out, between not only doing the mods, but also having to film everything and produce the video... I made a simple one of the installation of the PicoBoot since there weren't any in my language, and it took me an entire month working the hardest I've ever worked lol
Funny, I knew exactly where you were going with the solution on how to expand the RAM because of a video I very recently saw on Adrian Black's channel where he assured viewers that the piggybacked chips on some old hardware he was looking at were actually stock.
Nice!
Doing this mod reminds me of ppl who would softmod a wii mini, just like you said, because they can 💪
100% 😁👍
This took me back!! I started my dive into my development career starting with modding my original Xbox! I used to visit XBINS IRC and download a bunch of homebrew games like X Bomberbox and did a bunch of Halo modding :)
Do you still have any halo 2 mods like the fun ones we used to get banned with? Super speed super jump Etc. every where I used to get them are now archives with no links.
@@kiellmorphet262 Haha none of those types of mods! Didn't have Xbox Live either so they were mostly silly things, like putting a Wraith cannon on a Warthog 😂
I remember one of my close friends on the modding forum was able to add AI Elites to a multiplayer map and that was a huge event in my mind! They had full lobbies of people playing against Elites lol
When you said the pads were not there the first thing I was thinking was that they probably piggybacked the chips on top of the existing once. Since they probsbly only need separate enable lines.
Going to watch the rest of this video anyway :D
Hey, me too! I think we nailed it!
You are baba vanga
@@salamiwallnut had to ask my wife what that means, she says the description does not fit
Yep you got it!
sooooo basically this is 3D RAM
Two additional pros I feel you missed:
1: The 1.6 Xbox tends to run cooler and has the newest hardware (also no clock cap that explodes) so is arguably superior.
2: The RAM upgrade (regardless of Xbox version) does allow for higher quality videos to be played in XBMC, which can be a decent benefit if you're using your Xbox as a bit of a media machine.
The clock caps in 1.6 systems are considered "less leaky" when compared to other generations, they still have clock caps and they still can leak. The big problem you run into is 1.0-1.5 systems can run without a clock cap (modded) while 1.6 systems require the cap, so if your cap starts leaking your only option is replacing it with a new one. I just had to go through my units to check / remove caps, two 1.4's and two 1.6's.
Damn dude, the cinematography in this video is insane! How did you do that Xbox disassembly bit at the start? looks flawless.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the intro. It’s mostly practical effects. No CGI 😁
can you share timestamp
This reminds me I really need to get a mod chip for my 1.6 xbox since there's no easy way to just flash the bios on that model and at some point the hard drive is going to die. At least I don't have to worry about a clock capacitor destroying it since it's the only model without one.
Just softmod and swap the drive, I have two 1.6 systems that are going strong with new HDD's thanks to the Rocky5 method 👍 you can get a kit on eBay with everything you need (USB flash drive with save exploit, USB to XBOX cable, and a physical copy of an exploit friendly game) for $20-$30, then you use CHIMP with a new drive and your set! A 2tb HDD with a Startek SATA to IDE adapter, plus a new 80pin IDE, is what I would recommend, though you can go cheap if you're in a pinch.
1.6 systems also have clock caps, they're just considered "less leaky" when compared to 1.0-1.5 systems. The problem is, 1.0-1.5's can run without a clock cap (modded), a 1.6 can't. If yours ever stops working, you'll have to swap it with a new cap.
It figures this mod comes from the UK. Some old computers from the UK use memory chip stacking to increase RAM. What an awesome mod for 1.6 owners.
Actually they are from the US. only real way to upgrade a 520ST to 1MB. Pretty sure same with the 8bit atari (memory works like memory works(
At first, I thought this would never work because the chips can't share the chip select pin. But they did account for that. Well done.
piggyback is the term and I done this many times on old 8bit and 16bits systems. Heck it's also a way to troubleshoot old arcade systems.
I did this a few years ago. With the chip select lines I used a older revision motherboard to find where they were located and used a buffer to protect things. I don't have the ROM anymore for it. I only used that xbox for running Linux.
Nice, reminds me of the 360's nandwich dualnands which are always fun to do.
Wish I had a 1.6 to try this but both of mine are 1.0s!
A big reason many didnt like the v1.6 back in the day was because MS used memory chips of varying quality to keep up with demand or save costs.
There are v1.6 xbox with low quality memory might only ran 180MHz instead of the original 200MHz of prior xbox versions.
The 1.6 bios tests on boot to see how high the memory can stably run from 200MHz to 180Mhz in steps of 5MHz if i remember correctly.
So there could v1.6 xbox's out there with up to 10% lower performance in some games, its crazy to me actually.
oof. You'd have measurably decreased performance in just about every game, but unless you put a 200mhz next to a 180mhz system you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I guess they're bending the limits of what's considered acceptable to the public.
I wonder if it would be possible to go beyond 128mb's of ram using this idea. it's crazy, that the OG community is still very active, and i suspect they will be for many years to come.
Wow done thanks pulled xbox out of storage and added the ram didn't think this was possible tried many years ago.Awesome video 👍
Combining this with a 1.4GHz Tualatin Pentium 3 (or if you're adventurous, a 1.5GHz Tualatin Celeron) would allow you to theoretically run the software one of those red and grey media center Xbox consoles can. It also makes XBMC4Xbox and emulation/homebrew even better.
I am not kidding
When you said "He found a novel idea"
my direct thought was "Haha, how about just putting them onto each other"
I've modded lots of 1.0-1.4 consoles with the extra ram but am yet to try a 1.6. I must source some more ram chips and give it a try soon. Nice video :)
Oh no! The ram pads are gone! How will I expand my Xbox's memory now?
modders, probably: "ahhh just put the ram on top of the other ram it'll be fine"
The production quality of your videos is really awesome. Music, closeups, flow and contents. All top notch! Great video and continue your great work!
You've done it again. Just amazing my dude!
Thank you buddy 🙏☺️
I recently bought a crystal xbox for dirtcheap, 25 euro with all cables, 2 crystal controllers and a stack of games ... and I intend to mod the snot out of it. Already replaced the stock fan with a Noctua fan and bought an Aladdin mod chip. Also got a donor Xbox lying around with a broken disc drive that would be perfect to harvest the RAM from and put it in my crystal xbox.
I can't wait to start working on it hehe. Thanks for another great vid Tito ;)
The 128mb mod was always fairly niche in use, but very cool to see the 1.6 can pull it off. I remember the 1.6 was a pain with any mod....
Nowadays I use it to play a bunch of games in 720p or sometimes widescreen where before they weren't compatible (running the 720p mods on most games before would crash the system due to the ram cache being too small)
Yeah, the 1.6 is definitely not the most mod friendly.
oh yea we used to do this to certain 8 bit machines. Glad to see the oldschool techniques are still in play.
Microphone still shaking like there's a continuous earthquake, I see.
Haha true, my table is a bit wobbly
It will be a new 128ram series on the 1.6 board, let's see what happens. very good video.
I have done more than 65 xbox 1.0 to 1.4/1.5 128mb upgrade and never thought that this could be possible, good on you mate!! I have an xbox 1.6 and I will do that as well, thank you for this great tutorial!! Amazing...
Man I love how niche this is,. I just found out that their are XBOX players on the PSO Server that I play on, which is so cool! Any Phantasy Star Online players still active here?
That's how it was done all the time in 80s home computers. Now seeing, that this was considered as 'impossible' before, is another example on how quick human wisdom still gets lost every day, even within just a few decades. From this tought, I am pretty sure, that neary anything we learn about past centuries and millenia being absurdly wrong ..
bro the production quality is out of this world for your channel size
Absolutely love your videos!! Super great production value, SUPER professional. I aspire to reach this level someday
Thank you 🙏
id love to see a behind the scenes of the intro, those shots were amazing!
I may have to do that!
No love for Dustin or Redherring32? This was discussed as possible before P. Man proved it.
Phenom Mod and Dustin also have modules if anyone ever needs a backup to Modzville!
And you didn't mention the homebrew that can take advantage of the upgraded memory, as well as patches of retail games, which sometimes work okay and sometimes are terrible.
Honestly, it was cool to see this in the video, I knew it was possible for a while now, but I never took the time to look into how to do it. Now that I know what this entails, I can't wait to do this to a 1.6!
I love the sony pvms! Show those beautiful CRT monitors in more videos!
I never got into xbox, but I think the fact that you can do this is amazing.
Same, I was more into the ps2 at the time
@@MachoNachoProductions I was Into GameCube. I guess I'm a Nintendo "fan boy" only in the sense that most games I like/liked tend/tended to be on nintendo products
Ive seen some 1.4 ghz CPU upgrades for OG Xbox and Halflife 2 runs like butter compared to the original CPU. It literally makes the OG Xbox more powerful than the WII
I used to mod these with Xecutor 3 chips back in 2005-2006 for $150 a pop. This is bad ass!
Smoking legal weed here in Detroit while watching. I couldn't ever imagine doing something like this, but I love your video!
I think the other pro that you missed is the added experience doing this gives you. If you can complete it, it makes your next soldering job that little bit easier to perform.
You are such a hidden gem. Top grade camera work and such interesting topics you deserve so much more subscribers. I believe you are going to blowup real soon 😉.
Really appreciate it Miha!! 🙏☺️
its almost bifurcated ram.... interesting. Editorial note: you say "actually" at very random times, may be something worth looking into. Great video!
Just remembered there's a pro to the 1.6 revision Xbox. It doesn't have the clock capacitor battery issue that could render your console unplayable (I know this because of Cvit's video on the Dino Crisis trilogy. Where he had to get an OG Xbox for the third game since it's not backwards compatible with the Xbox 360)
I'm 99% sure I saw someone doing this mod in a forum back in the day. Awesome mod nonetheless!
I believe you need 128MB RAM to run some of the 720p patches, not tried it myself as I don't have the skill to pull off that mod =)
Yep you are correct. Some games that are patched can run at a higher resolution with 128mb. I believe half-life 2 is one.
I thought this was going to be too much work before I realized you have to do this with four chips. My hands feel strained just watching this. So many tiny little pins.
This is pretty cool I wonder if this could lead to a way to possibly get more than 128 MB of RAM on older consoles? It's definitely Overkill and probably wouldn't serve much purpose but it would definitely be cool and you would definitely have bragging rights being able to claim you have 256 MB of RAM (maybe even possibly more) in your original Xbox.
Probably would work for people that use Xboxes as media centers.
how do you not have more sub!? dat production quality
Thank you 🙏
Noob question: What temperature should I set my soldering iron to? There's gotta be some optimum range for this.
+/- 360°C with good solder
@@sebastianjanczyk6191 Thank you. May I ask another question? I know that there are different compositions for different use cases (R/F solder, microelectronics soldier, copper welding soldier, etc.). What distinguishes a good microelectronics solder alloy from a bad one?
@@Psychx_ when you use a bad one you need to increse the temperature and also use a lot more flux to achieve the same results, or it will weld and cause cold solder joints
If you have a means to calibrate your iron, do so first. Find yourself a old scrap PCB and increment from 275°C by 5 or so until you get to a temperature that will reliably allow you to flow the solder joints. The old solder will have enough crust and contaminants to make your iron work. Once satisfied, try something with a big ground plane and try out your boost if you have it. You want to go with your min working temperature so it will give you more time before you burn away your flux, especially if you're new.
Omg great work Tito! I have been been really frustrated because I keep fragging my Xbox and it looks perfect I cannot get the LPC reboard to work either (modchip led or red and then will go green and back to red) so I'm also going to remove it now I think. I've been really stubborn and felt like I was going crazy or something, so glad to know you had to rebuild yours!
Done about 10 so far = 2022 showing old consoles love.
Heck yeah. I was super interested in this for my 1.6 but wanted to see the process.
I was sure you'd do a video, and here it is.
Nice! I hope you enjoyed the video 😁👍
I spent an entire Sat. recapping my $5 2004 Sony Goodwill DVD player, simply because I could.
Nice!
video title : *i did something impossible*
video intro : *some brave modder that isn't me did something impossible*
The music must be royalty free because I am hearing everywhere
I've been wanting to see someone do this method on modern chips! Well DONE!
I tried this and failed years ago. You are a true mad man!
I can do the solder work but I don't own the console or have a need for it, still a great idea.
This is so cool, Tito!
Thanks Todd! Glad you enjoyed this one 😁👍
Piggyback was used for 16 Bit Machines in the 80/90`s too.
There is also the RAM Delimiter tool which patches Xbox games to use more than 64MB.
As others have mentioned, this allows some games to be run at higher resolutions. Futurama is the first one to my mind as the RAM upgrade can allow it to run at 720p.
Personally, I’ve been interested in seeing whether it makes a difference to Morrowind performance.
Need a video that covers the CPU upgrade mod.
Looks like there is going to be a huge influx of "for parts or not working" 1.6 Xboxes on eBay in the near future.
Modded 360's do so much more. Legit. TENFOLD!!!!!!!!!! Still, got a soft spot for the modded OG XBOX's. Love them equally as much.
Tito my man your videos are gold right to the point
Thank you 🙏!
Someone *"Discovered Chip-Stacking"?*
😂
Commodore 64 Hardware hackers were doing this back in the mid 1980's with the *Commodore REU's*
Did this very thing myself using a 1764 and ran my Color64 BBS off of it (power trace on the REU cut and powered separately with a battery back up) then, I got a SuperRAM-Card and a *WHOOPING 20Mb HD!!!*
CPU and RAM upgrade LESSSGGGGOOOOOOO
This is like adding HDMI to the original NES.
Unnecessary, but we're still doing it, because we can.
That intro was sick
Glad you liked it 😁
Closest I've ever come to stacking RAM chips is stacking BIOS chips to hot flash a faulty/corrupted BIOS chip.
Somebody upgraded the Xbox with a 1.4ghz Tualatin Pentium III. That's pretty much double the processing power.
Awesome! I've also heard that there is a possible cpu upgrade on some xboxs..... next project? :)
I’d imagine that the home theater PC users booting into Linux would get a smoother / more performant experience because the Xbox doesn’t have to swap virtual memory as often
Do those ram chips get hot at all? I’m not certain, but that may be a concern if you’re stacking them
That could be an issue potentially, I would think more so for the bottom ram module.
On the subject of flexing... how many times can we stack? Can we have a 256 megabyte+ xbox? You would definitely get some bragging rights there.
I'm out. (slaps money on table and storms off)
I've heard of other applications for the 128MB mod, including patches for existing games that improve their performance, but that is a whole lot of work for extremely limited applications. I don't think I need Bloody Roar Extreme in 720p quite that badly.
Prehistoric Man, heh. That's my favorite Titus game.
I don't think anyone with the know how thought this mod was "impossible" just not practical. Short of Microsoft redesigning the silicon there was always a chance to upgrade the RAM it just wouldn't have been pretty or easy. This is far from what I'd call difficult but it's also not nearly as easy as modding any other XBox revision which is why I think regular folk called it "impossible".
Really cool someone worked it out finally! I'd like to give it a try but finding legit RAM has gotten harder here a year later.
Dang, I had no idea people were even installing more RAM in retail units.
This mod made me remember the early days of the Xbox 360 RGH Dual NAND mods. Those were the days. Great video as always!
Glad you enjoyed this one 🙏😁
We running Tranzit without the fog, with this video.
Now that stacking has been discovered, what’s stopping you from installing 256MB in the earlier revisions? You, stack the other revisions? Impractical, yes, but quadrupling the RAM? America, baby.
Hi Tito i wanted where do you learn to solder you are really good ! I don't really the budget to do all the mods i want so i can't get some skills :c
I basically taught myself watching videos on RUclips and practicing on real hardware. I highly recommend watching some videos from Voultar and eevvlog. Also on Amazon you can buy cheap soldering practice kits to practice you on. Cheers buddy!
@@MachoNachoProductions Thanks :D i'm gonna look in that !
Bro, I could never do anything like this. I lack the patience, and steady hands. But, I enjoyed the video 👍
Some retail games can be patched for more ram allowing higher resolutions
I absolutely adore your intro.
should also add he's not the first one to do this, he's just the first to document it, this has been done before