Gojo wins every battle but not against Sukuna. Gojo's fighting style would be way different against Toji. Without Infinity as a factor, Gojo wouldn't make the mistake of relying on Infinity as much as he did in the canon, and would react by movement rather than reacting by activating Infinity. Gojo could also react to Toji's sneak attack perceptionally and it's proven from Gojo's statements after the event happened, as he states that he wasn't quick enough to activate his technique. The conclusion is that Gojo would be more than capable of dodging Toji, and he wouldn't make the mistake of relying on Infinity again rather than just destroying Toji's Fly Heads with Blue and he would do so since it's actually in character for him. *It was infinity Gojo instinctively activated first and then thought of Blue right afterwards,* so it's only natural that the difference this time would be that *Blue is going to be utilized instinctively rather than Infinity.*
Goatjo solos blobkuna!!! Cry about it, I’m too busy eating mashed potatoes aka fraudkuna to read ur yap!!!, poukuna the fraud is getting cooked if he didn’t have his daddy cry and cope even more ha
@@renascott1699even with infinity gayjo isn't stronger than sukuna..... so gojo will definitely lose to sukuna. Without infinity that is just low to mid diff fight for sukuna
Sukuna will eat Gojo without his barrier Dismantles will have a sure hit on Gojo (Dismantles > Gojo's reaction speed) Cleave for close combat (Gojo's RCT might save him from one or two cleaves) In case you talked about Gojo's entire infinity/ limitless technique Then, Gojo is getting harrassed in both physical and domain combat
Strongly disagree on the gojo vs sukuna fight. A lot changes. The use of domain amp would be minimal so he would adapt to infinity much faster and be able to infuse the ten shadows abilities into himself a lot earlier. So he likely wins atleast one more clash and the fight pretty much ends from there.
minimal domain amp means he takes more damage from red and blue so he just loses the clash Gojo doesn't even have infinity in this scenario so what you are talking about
@@CertainlyCynical that's true actually. Sukuna takes severe damage from Gojo's abilities. This was the point of Gojo noting that even with amplification, Sukuna cant fully block the attacks. And they cause heavy damage. Heavy damage is what breaks Sukuna's domain. So Gojo would still be a major threat if Sukuna uses Amp minimally. Thats why adaptation is tricky if you do not summon mahoraga and only use the wheel. But Sukuna needed to not summon him or Gojo would 1 shot Mahoraga. So Sukuna's risk was trying to take damage himself but not be fatally wounded in the process. That way he saves mahoraga for later while also getting a rotation of the wheel to further adaptation
@@ThePsycoNinja the time he was hit with red and blue wouldnt change since no infinity means contact cleave is now allowed, gojo wouldn't get the chance to use red
@@johnaepl He automated infinity without tiring himself by the end of his flashback. It is explained. Earlier he would get tired from using infinity that's why Geto was concerned for him to keep his technique always active since it was unusual. By the end Gojo managed to make his technique fully automatic and it didn't strain him like at all. The six eyes however do tire him after a while that's why he wears special sunglasses and later blindfold
By the point of the fight gojo and Sukuna lose domains he's kinda cooked without it since Sukuna has no need to keep adapting if UV isn't an option anymore. He can just pile on pressure with shrine instead of playing defensively like he does originally
The fight showed that mahoraga was necessary even without infinity. Sukuna could not have won otherwise. Gojo fought roughly 70 percent of the fight without his abilities. He either had to refrain to prevent adaptation or they were offline due to a domain clash. The point of the order of their battle was to show Sukuna cannot kill Gojo just by domain clash. Gojo has multiple options for it. Whereas getting hit by UV once is a game winner against even Sukuna Without mahoraga, they would have went on for a much more drawn out fight of repetitively using RCT to heal their brains and bodies. This could have happened and Gojo would have started to gain an advantage but Mahoraga was the deciding factor that helped Sukuna win. Sukuna states the condition to modify his technique was near impossible without the model he got from mahoraga. Sukunas panic at seeing Gojo potentially return further proves it to be true. It was Yuta unfortunately who isnt as battle wise and couldnt use Gojo's body well. Sukuna states he recognized several factors Yuta was handling poorly including maintaining his own domain. Sukuna wouldnt have options to hit him other than domain. The instantaneous activation was one time only. All this to say, Gojo can win without infinity. Thats something he developed after he started taking his training seriously. An application of limitless. But its not what he relies on beat his opponents.
@alexzander1142 *sighs* no he wouldnt. He wasnt cooked when it happened in the series. In the series, if mahoraga didnt come out to save the day TWICE, Sukuna would have lost. Then if Mahoraga didnt come up with a way to bypass infinity, Sukuna would not have done so. He states it was impossible to do without mahoraga's model
@@trickeruniverse1979 because he was focusing to much on adapting and took unnecessary damage because of it. Sukuna would have won in the five domain clash and beaten gojo
@@micahmoses1799 What are you talking about He didn't take any damage when Gojo was in MS We aren't talking about the clashes we are talking about after Gojo's domain broke.
5:50 Why bro say easily when gojo himself admits in short fights Miguel would actually beat him? Anyone who has a sliver of a chance of doing just this wouldn’t get dominated in any capacity. Miguel didn’t get that beating in the manga, the animators just went overboard The manga actually states he fought evenly with Gojo, which is better than what Toji can say
Yeah,Miguel did use the black rope for gojo's infinity if infinity isnt there that means he would use his CT (that's allow him to dodge anything his opponents throw at him) 😅 actually that fight won't end until Miguel run out of CE
@@Animeplanet25 man could you imagine a fight like that, I was really disappointed in his performance In Shinjuku I really wanted to see more of what he could do
@@micahmoses1799 nah hes just smart bro trust he also did what he said he was gonna do he speed blitzed sukuna when he saved ui ui then he dodged dismantles and walked up and punched sukuna in the stomach maki cant even say. she had to stab him from the back . when she was really facing him she got manhandled
@@xX_CidAtomic_Xx we've never seen Gojo remote try dodging besides the last Toji fight and the Sukuna fight and even in that fight he still got hit multiple times and could've used improvements.
Hell in the Sukuna fight he still relied on Infinity to block most of the blows besides Sukunas fists and when Mahoraga figured out how to get past it the first time.
@ He was only dodging Sukuna and Mahoraga and not Agito (since Agito couldn't bypass infinity) and still got hit so if he didnt rely on infinity and actively had to dodge attacks he wouldn't have gotten hit as quickly therefore would've lasted longer.
As of usual lumiere is cooking 🙏 lowk editing improved ngl. As for the final round I want it to be know that I morely see sukuna winning and while your right we do see his second priority is infinity but without it he’ll never need domain amp making it so not only can his AP and h2h be better but shrine can be more effective I say this due to hanami or jogo saying that domain amp feels like punching underwater which we know is just harder over all it makes the fight much simpler for sukuna and honestly I see both fighters fighting differently but without infinity out the way I definitely sukuna winning on that 5th domain clash or sometime before still I do see gojo winning in some scenarios but I see sukuna winning 8 times out of 10. But still great video. Btw when next stream gng?
the world slash that killed gojo was unexpected, gojo thought he won but sukuna launched that world slash without chants and hand signs. basically just stood there and gojo died
Except sukuna already tried pilling pressure and it failed as he even lost some h2h interactions in his own amped domain,fight changes alot but it can still go to the post domain section
@@AhmadKazan-wk7ei he literally couldn't even use shrine on gojo. without infinity, sukuna just does chip damage and gojo would look way less aggressive as a result combos with agito and mahoraga would be so much easier to perfrom cuz they wouldnt need to wait for mahoraga to attack gojo before they could attack cuz every time mahoraga attack gojo, he shut down infinity momentarily
@@AhmadKazan-wk7ei chapter 260 states no matter how low sukunas energy is as long as he waits for the cooldown he can open as many as he wants Gojo against meguna purposely taking hits for raga to adapt and turned off his sure hit during the 3rd and 4th allowed raga Gojo has a max of 5 domain expansions before he can't handle opening another 1 for the day. Usually people can only open 1 if gojo never hit UV sukuna would of opened another domain and killed gojo slowly, gojo might of pulled of some plays but he can't do much if it was just 4 arms. (HWB defended against yutas and yuji's domain for a good while)
One thing I think is pretty important here is that a lot of Gojo's speed comes from infinity teleportations which involves compressing co-ordinates using Infinity(as stated by Kusakabe in the Gojo v Sukuna fight). He's probably still faster than every character here save for Sukuna and Jogo. I think Jogo v Gojo would've been a lot more interesting because of that since his geysers could be difficult to evade. Still a win, but a more interesting one.
Honestly If Gojo didn't have infinity it would be better for him because Sukuna would probably try to use cleave and dismantle but they are massively superior to MS which gojo can eat so they do nothing, on top of that he would need to turn off DA and he'll take more damage from red and blue. The real problem is the rest of limitless and UV. W video goat
Broski, the only reason he ate those attacks was because he has rct on full throttle , if what ur saying true he would have to have rct full throttle on the whole fight 😂which would be impossible he'd legit lose faster
I think for everything except gojo vs sukuna you are right, infinity was a major problem in that fight and sukuna was adapting to unlimited void and inifinity in fact the only reason he got in the situation he did having to use agito and mahoraga was to get a model to bypass infinity without sukuna just attacks relentlessly with 10 shadows or shrine and kills him with out getting the world slash it wont be easy its gojo after all but no infinity sukuna's options increase massively
Yeah you’re right, but he’d still need to use mahoraga, if he wants to protect himself from domain, but it does give him very good odds when he adapts to UV
@Lumiere300 yeah, probably, since he still needs to fight the students, he will use the 10 shadows, but it will make the fight not as interesting since sukuna does not need to find ways to bypass infinity
@@Lumiere300gojo isn't t landing a single domain lmao, ur such a glazer, without mahoraga sukuna already won all clashes besides 1, and in 2 of the clashes sukuna couldn't touch gojo because he turnt off domain amp for mahoraga to adapt which caused him to take too much damage which resulted in .01 clash delay 😂 basically gojo would've been cooked either way
Why does know one remember that cleave can adapt to someone’s durability meaning sukuna could use cleave and then turn off shrine to activate ten shadows also the world slash would still hit gojo cause of the binding vow that made it unreadable
@ In every panel of Sukuna using Cleave on someone it obliterates them. So safe to say Gojos limbs would easily get cut off bro be another Jogo victim just not as bad.
9:45 I don't think this is right, we never saw kashimo dodging WCS, sukuna just slashed he's attack, their no evidence he was dodging it. This assumption have no basis.
To be very honest, Gojo and Sukuna are two faces on the same coin 🪙...what I mean by this, As Gojo said, Sukuna didn't fully fight as he like to fight but it's because of infinity alone (Watch Sukuna vs the curse spirit, Sukuna vs Jogo and Sukuna vs Mahoraga, you will understand how Sukuna normally fight and why Gojo said he wasn't fully able to give everything he had)...Sukuna couldn't use the shrine in the fight as he usually do, In conclusion: 1- Sukuna would have constantly cleave Gojo's hand in close combat (normally you cannot possibly fight Sukuna like Gojo did, it's impossible)....but there is one problem Gojo can activate blue around his hands, which mean those cleave will be absorb in blue 🔵 center (as I said they are two faces in the same coin, a debate around them will always be like that because they can nullify each other even with infinity in the game and Sukuna would have still used domain amplification against 🔵🔴🟣 those techniques are still operating on an atomic level, they represent the spatial manipulation). 2-Don't know the outcome but Sukuna would have been on defense as always in distance even with dismantle, because Gojo's spatial manipulation 🔵🔴 can easily counter dismantle without teleportation (keeping two blue 🔵 in his hands will always negates dismantle). 3- Cleave can definitely be a win condition in this fight only in first contact, because in close combat Gojo wouldn't know that Sukuna can easily use cleave like that, which mean Gojo would have lost his hands and his head after this (only manga readers can understand this part...whatever the anime, it's difficult to fight Sukuna without a proper defense in the way or a very very great regenerative ability, you will die, because it's not the common fighting style). - all of this, it's after unlimited void adaptation.
@joseaugustosoriano5094 Yes blue 🔵 can absorb techniques and everything in it's center (its like mini black hole with attraction and absorption capacity), you are waiting Gege for everything bro, just take a look in the manga (chapter 235 page 14)...Blue 🔵 absorbs the piercing water that Sukuna uses to destroy the red 🔴.... don't forget all Gojo's techniques (neutral infinity, 🔵🔴🟣) are operating on atomic level, when blue absorb something, it's destroyed in the center on an atomic level (you didn't see how Blue absorb Agito and now you're saying it can absorbs curse techniques.🤷♂️).
@dalcedarry8863 iirc it was debunked that it really destroyed things at atomic level And also: the water from the elephant is not the same as a dismantle Saying one thing happens because one thing without connection to the other happens
@@joseaugustosoriano5094 What do you understand when it's said that Gojo's manipulating space on an atomic level? What are the spatial abilities (Neutral infinity, 🔵🔴🟣), even with neutral infinity he erased Hanami in Shibuya.🤦♂️ - Yes blue 🔵 can attract and absorb anything in it's center, it's in the manga, you are waiting for Gege to explain explain you every page with statement...check each time Gojo used blue, the normal slashes aren't Mahoraga, stop with this nonsense. (Chapter 71 page 15, chapter 234 and chapter 235), All Gojo's techniques can easily kill an opponent, that's why Sukuna was constantly using domain amplification.
Sukuna would be able to use fuga on gojo because there's no infinity to protect him from cleave and dismantle sukuna could see that using mahoraga to adapt for infinite void isn't worth not being able to use fuga
Gojo cant win against Sukuna without infinity, but if he used it different then maybe he could. Instead of having it either on or off he could maybe turn it on right as Sukuna-s slashes are hitting him, and maybe turn it off completely in hand to hand. With this, Mahoraga cant really adapt to infinity and so his chances are better, however seeing how clever Sukuna was he could for sure counter this strategy with something, so it would be interesting to see how this plays out
the world cutting slash that was used against Gojo is diferent from the one used on kashimo because of him not needing any chants or hand signs. A I understand it these wcs worked as a normal dismantle like the one Sukuna spams but with the special properties of the WCS so its likely that Gojo couldn't evade it. If Sukuna had this version of the wcs for the whole battle against the sorcerers then not even the top tiers like Yuta could do anything cause the only dodging that is Maki and even like that its not imposible for her to be hit by it.
Gojo tanked 120% slashes from malevolent shrine - No wonder Plotkuna had to target the space/world where Gojo stood physically, the WCS ignores durability and CE reinforcement, its like a spatial phenomena. I dont care what anyone says but without WCS Sukuna is just another Gojo victim.
You do realize Gojo would've fell to Shrine eventually or to an domain amped Fuga if he didnt have Infinity (whole reason why Sukuna didnt use it cause he couldn't)
Also yes ik Shrines sure hit bypasses it but the point being Sukuna would've been able to use his techniques and his Domain at the same time due to infinity not existing in this scenario.
(cause imagine trying to keep reinforcing your body to tank shrine but also trying to dodging whatever the fuck Sukuna is throwing at you in the process whether itd be cleave, dismantle, spider cleave, waffle dismantle, Fuga and what not..)
@ I think you forgot that Gojo didnt have infinity after the first domain clash and he not only tanked the 120% sure hit slashes he also did hand to hand, used simple domain twice, and HEALED HIS BURNT OUT CURSED TECHNIQUE WITH RCT - Destroyed his own brain. Sukuna without wcs aint doing shit to Gojo bro its okay, your character won just leave it at that.
Gojo without Infinity would beat Sukuna without Dismantle IMO, Gojo is faster, about the same strength with his technique, and his martial arts always outclassed Sukuna, without the invisible quick slashes Sukuna would only be able to make contact to cleave and shoot the slow ahh Furnace. GOATJO would cook
Gojo is fast enough to either dodge, catch the arrow with Blue (pretty comical), or just.. Counter with red. If it had the flame AOE, gojo STILL escapes.
@@shiloh-o6h The whole point of the fight was as soon as sukuna finds another way besides DA or DE to bypass infinity gojo loses WCS would not be needed in this scenario
Because he didn’t lose the fights, I explained it in the vid, but if you wanna count that as a lost you can, But he legit just didn’t lose any of the fights
@@micahmoses1799that only happened because he was trying to not kill civilians. All the cursed spirits knew they would lose almost immediately without those distractions
@@micahmoses1799 He got sealed Means the plan worked for the soul purpose they were there. Doesn't mean they won physically against gojo...in short Plan won/succeeded ≠wining the fight physically... This video is using fights as a counting. ... So tell me, did they physically overpower gojo without infinity or won? Ans is = no... Cuz in reality. 0.2 sec domain was enough for all of them. It's just gojo was rendered to do so untill he reached the 100°C .
@@Unboundedcurse dude if they came up with a plan to seal him and the plan worked how is that a victory for gojo when the disaster curses literally achieved their objective
I’m not gonna watch the whole video. Gojo is nothing without his cursed technique because of how the power system works in Jujutsu Kaisen. There are basic forms of utilizing cursed energy but without Infinity, Gojos cursed energy gets nerfed because he no longer can use the six eyes to create his system that allows him to have boundless cursed energy. Besides basic usage of cursed energy, like CE reinforcement, Advanced Cursed Energy Control- Etc, there really isn’t much Gojo has besides his domain expansion, which he probably still could be capable of casting without his infinity sense domains are a manifestation of their soul technically. Without Infinity, Gojo would have the six eyes, it would be pretty beneficial when it comes to managing Gojos Cursed Energy and being able to see other peoples techniques but it wouldn’t really give any major buffs. Gojo wouldn’t be the strongest anymore, Blud would prob just be like a grade 1 sorcerer at the best.
Gojos also already stated/implied that his cursed energy is lower than Yutas at base form. Gojos RCT might come in handy when it comes to healing himself, being a fast healer but that’s only thanks to the six eyes, and without infinity using RCT the way he did before would just burn out his CE wayyyyy faster.
To the people in the comments that believe (gojo pre seal/ gojo no ♾️) wins i have 1 question What are yall reading 🙏🏿😭im ngl this comprehension demon is actually a real thing
@@Raijin1770 he is really not though. Gojo says multiple times sukuna held back. The entire narrative point is that sukuna is stronger. Saying without infinity it goes the same is heinous
Funny how Gojo without infinity what would be considered a nerf to him basically not only isn't is weaker he directly is stronger (Sukuna fans in the comments showing again than they never read the manga, why they always say than Sukuna would defeat Gojo using his domain when was literally showed than he can't literally 5 times)
He was literally in a FAR weaker body. Sukuna in a teens body verses. Above 6 foot tall and 4 arms and jacked as hell. If your argument was that gojo didn't lose in h2h during the domain clashes. What do you think would happen if you gave sukuna dozens of kilos of muscle and and 4 fucking arms. Gojo is mot winning the domain clashes against that in h2h
@@DawnChaser-yn his body is not weaker. Where do y'all get that info? His durability and strength in whatever body is based off of Sukuna's CE. In megumi, Sukuna has access to 100 percent of his CE. Meaning he is stronger than Yujikuna and by a lot too. Thats all stated in the manga. If sukuna's durability and strength were based off megumi's, he wouldnt even be able to battle Gojo not even a little. It would be over in seconds. There's tons of proof throughout the series but I keep seding people saying meguna's body is weak. Its false
@@DawnChaser-yn He literally didn't, there is no even one single proof than says than the body affects Sukuna's power, the only difference between bodys are the techniques, also Sukuna in his true form was dominated by everyone physically
@@ThePsycoNinjaMeguna was getting thrashed by Kashimo, once he transformed into his true form he was the one doing the thrashing. Nuff said Sukuna’s true form body is > Megunas
@ThatsCrazy482 Meguna had just finished fighting Gojo and his brain was permanently damaged leaving him enable to heal or fight. If that's who you compare kashimo to you should be ashamed. Kashimo wasnt able to 1 shot that hurt meguna thats the real shame lol. So like, meguna's body is not weal because its megumi. Megumics durability has nothing to do with it
People dont understand. Gojo's infinity is like domain amplification except with a slowing effect. Thats why they always need it to neutralize infinity. The same way a domain sure hit can neutralize another domain sure hit. So in most situations. Gojo still dominates the same. The only exceptions would be Sukuna. But its literally impossible for him to not have infinity. To get rid of it, you would need to get rid of limitless which is inpossible. Its innate to his body. Even without it, he can use blue to repel most things. He is still one of the fastest, physically strong and durable people in the verse. To understand his speed, remember all of Toji's strikes looked like slow motion. Gojo is that fast and percieves information faster as well. Like multiple minutes of info in just a single moment. It takes someone like Sukuna to take him down and vice versa.
@@ThePsycoNinja the first time I see a reader understand how complex and powerful domain amplification, this defense is a masterpiece, DA help against 3 purples 🟣, that's enough to understand...DA and infinity are in the same grade in terms of defense, that's also why they say Sukuna would have won the fight if he could have used his technique at the same time.
@dalcedarry8863 I would agree. For example. When Gojo strengthens outside his barrier, he weakens the interior. To counter, Sukuna turned off his sure hit so he had to have DA on inside the domain clash. During this moment, if he could use DA and his own techniques Sukuna likely could win right here. How it happened, Gojo used falling blossom emotion to reduce damage from shrine's strikes. If this applied to all Sukuna's techniques maybe they would likely keep fighting longer. But if Sukuna has attacks that can overpower falling blossom emotion then maybe not. I personally think Sukuna being able to use DA and techniques at the same time(assuming he does Not have mahoraga), would just turn into a fight where both Sukuna and Gojo just start launching their strongest attacks at eachother. The difference is that Sukuna cant bypass Gojo's DA unless he is engages in close quaters combat and overpowers infinity with his own DA. But both Gojo's longer range and close range attacks can pierce even Sukuna's DA. So its still 50/50 in the end who would win imo. Theres a lot of situations that can happen. Sukuna best bet is use mahoraga OR try to strike down Gojo inside domains. If it were possible use DA and techniques at the same time, this way Sukuna could neutralize limitless while also charging the WCS and try to hit Gojo similar to how he did it in the manga
@@ThePsycoNinjaYes, its 50/50: - Gojo will use: Fallen blossom and RCT (FBE is a external curse energy manipulation, you can generate positive energy from inside) + Blue 🔵 in both his hands, Sukuna will be force to use the same strategy (Domain amplification +adaptation), teleportation will be in play also because you cannot really counter this teleportation by it's nature, it will always work because.... Without infinity Gojo is still the final boss. - Sukuna will use: the shrine in a more offensive aspect because from chapter 224 to 235, he always use dismantle and cleave in defensive aspect to remove himself in difficult situation, it's subtle, you can count the cleave and dismantle on your hands (I think its five when you count the world cutting slash also, the precision is unreal), you cannot use 2 curse techniques at the same time, but he will still use ten shadow for adaptation during domain clash because unlimited void will still be his first priority. Same outcome (50/50), but Sukuna has unpredictable attack (Cleave) for first contact, in close combat he can surprise you by cutting both your arms and cut your head with dismantle, this one is a win condition because in chapter 225 page 17 and 226 page 1, if you check closely Gojo use RCT externally to heal his neck, then in a close combat Gojo would have immediately loose (cleave his 2 arms and dismantle his head is a win con. But one chance or opportunity like against the domain expansion, because if he fails, it will never work again against Gojo).
@dalcedarry8863 Sukuna cannot cleave off Gojo's arms and head. If that were the case, then MS would have done so. But not a single limb was lost. Dont forget Sukuna still has to aim his cleave and dismantles. Gojo can see them coming. They alone are not a win condition. I told you, people dont understand infinity. They see it as something that if turned off, Gojo will not be durable. Its not the case. The first slash in MS cut his neck and didnt slice it clean off. It near disintegrated mahoraga and stone and metal buildings so you cant say Sukuna was holding back. Gojo was durable enough to not be dismembered immediately. The RCT helped after this point but this is all the proof we need to know Gojo can tank slashes. He was exposed to slashes multiple times and never dismembered immediately. Not even piercing blood from Sukuna dismembered Gojo. Mahoragas enhanced Dismantle was the only thing to do it
@@ThePsycoNinja I'm talking about first contact, also MS didn't cut Gojo because he was using RCT in a spectacular way to immediately heal upon the slashes contact... first contact in close combat he can loose his arms without infinity (that's how scary Sukuna really is when you don't know his technique)...chapter 226 show a Gojo taking off guard by the slash in his neck, he was obliged to use RCT with his hand, imagine in first contact without infinity and blue 🔵 around his hands like against Jogo... (My point isn't a win condition in itself because in chapter 223 Gojo use blue around 🔵 his hands and Sukuna used domain amplification as their first stance, that's the only reason, after Sukuna can win with a off guard cleave and dismantle immediately after).
W thumbnail by boi also ngl it's a scary thought to think of gojo did not have infinity toji could just use SSK to kill him since I doubt teen gojo could even come close to healing his soul even when he awakens
Nope gojo will not lose to sukuna bro The only reason why sukuna wins Bc he s sneak attack him With world cutting slash Sukuna fans:🤓👆uhhmm..all actually sukuna was domain expansion That ain't working for gojo bc spam simple domain Gojo wins with expert diff
Literally even after unlocking automatic infinity he never stopped growing, never stopped training his hand to hand and techniques so still be the the most unstoppable sorcerer even without it
@mikeoxlon I get you bro, but I feel like he could have been more without that defence after all gege did say that he could do anything he tries but he doesn't because he doesn't want to overwhelm the new generation of sorcerer and I feel like that is a growth stunt in a way.
@gojosatoru72869 i think you should reread his fight with sukuna, see how 'stunt' his growth is fighting the strongest sorcerer in history. See his performance against him with no cursed technique, being bombarded with sure hit cleaves, having to fight using cursed energy whilst using rct to heal himself, if this is his stunt growth i have no idea
@mikeoxlon I know he is extremely talented and versatile but what I am saying is that infinity is a defence he knows he can always fall back on, after all if hadn't failed him until the fight with toji. When you have a defence as broken as infinity you tend to lax you physical strength a bit, so what I am saying in essence is that he would be more of a monster since he knows nothing can protect him if he didnt have the infinity
@gojosatoru72869 he had always trained without putting his infinity on the equation LMAO. AGAIN reread the fight with sukuna, he didnt even panic like OH NO MY INFINITY, WHAT AM I GONN DO?? I DID NOT PREPARE FOR THIS
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Gojo wins every battle but not against Sukuna. Gojo's fighting style would be way different against Toji. Without Infinity as a factor, Gojo wouldn't make the mistake of relying on Infinity as much as he did in the canon, and would react by movement rather than reacting by activating Infinity. Gojo could also react to Toji's sneak attack perceptionally and it's proven from Gojo's statements after the event happened, as he states that he wasn't quick enough to activate his technique. The conclusion is that Gojo would be more than capable of dodging Toji, and he wouldn't make the mistake of relying on Infinity again rather than just destroying Toji's Fly Heads with Blue and he would do so since it's actually in character for him. *It was infinity Gojo instinctively activated first and then thought of Blue right afterwards,* so it's only natural that the difference this time would be that *Blue is going to be utilized instinctively rather than Infinity.*
Goatjo solos blobkuna!!! Cry about it, I’m too busy eating mashed potatoes aka fraudkuna to read ur yap!!!, poukuna the fraud is getting cooked if he didn’t have his daddy cry and cope even more ha
@@renascott1699even with infinity gayjo isn't stronger than sukuna..... so gojo will definitely lose to sukuna. Without infinity that is just low to mid diff fight for sukuna
@@Animeplanet25 Goatjo solos poopkuna neg diff without mahoraga cope
@renascott1699 still using copium??? What you can do other than that when the character you meat riding so much said otherwise 🤣
@@Animeplanet25is this you? 👉🐟
World slash wouldn’t even be made if infinity wasnt a thing
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To be fair there wouldn't be a reason for it to be made.
@ We're saying the same thing
Sukuna will eat Gojo without his barrier
Dismantles will have a sure hit on Gojo (Dismantles > Gojo's reaction speed)
Cleave for close combat (Gojo's RCT might save him from one or two cleaves)
In case you talked about Gojo's entire infinity/ limitless technique
Then,
Gojo is getting harrassed in both physical and domain combat
Strongly disagree on the gojo vs sukuna fight. A lot changes. The use of domain amp would be minimal so he would adapt to infinity much faster and be able to infuse the ten shadows abilities into himself a lot earlier. So he likely wins atleast one more clash and the fight pretty much ends from there.
minimal domain amp means he takes more damage from red and blue so he just loses the clash
Gojo doesn't even have infinity in this scenario so what you are talking about
@@Levathon that is just flat out wrong
@@CertainlyCynical that's true actually. Sukuna takes severe damage from Gojo's abilities. This was the point of Gojo noting that even with amplification, Sukuna cant fully block the attacks. And they cause heavy damage. Heavy damage is what breaks Sukuna's domain. So Gojo would still be a major threat if Sukuna uses Amp minimally.
Thats why adaptation is tricky if you do not summon mahoraga and only use the wheel. But Sukuna needed to not summon him or Gojo would 1 shot Mahoraga. So Sukuna's risk was trying to take damage himself but not be fatally wounded in the process. That way he saves mahoraga for later while also getting a rotation of the wheel to further adaptation
@ Prove otherwise.
@@ThePsycoNinja the time he was hit with red and blue wouldnt change since no infinity means contact cleave is now allowed, gojo wouldn't get the chance to use red
3:21 gojo without infinity wouldn't be as worn out as his normal self in the series. So, gojo probably wins.
Not true. Gojo is worn out because he constantly used the six eyes non stop
@@cooldes4593 No he used Infinity thats why
@@johnaepl He automated infinity without tiring himself by the end of his flashback. It is explained. Earlier he would get tired from using infinity that's why Geto was concerned for him to keep his technique always active since it was unusual. By the end Gojo managed to make his technique fully automatic and it didn't strain him like at all. The six eyes however do tire him after a while that's why he wears special sunglasses and later blindfold
@@johnaepl no dude, its shown and stated its because he was using the six eyes non stop
@@cooldes4593 Dude infinity, he had it active the whole time, then the second he disabled it, Toji attacked him.
By the point of the fight gojo and Sukuna lose domains he's kinda cooked without it since Sukuna has no need to keep adapting if UV isn't an option anymore. He can just pile on pressure with shrine instead of playing defensively like he does originally
The fight showed that mahoraga was necessary even without infinity. Sukuna could not have won otherwise. Gojo fought roughly 70 percent of the fight without his abilities. He either had to refrain to prevent adaptation or they were offline due to a domain clash.
The point of the order of their battle was to show Sukuna cannot kill Gojo just by domain clash. Gojo has multiple options for it. Whereas getting hit by UV once is a game winner against even Sukuna
Without mahoraga, they would have went on for a much more drawn out fight of repetitively using RCT to heal their brains and bodies. This could have happened and Gojo would have started to gain an advantage but Mahoraga was the deciding factor that helped Sukuna win. Sukuna states the condition to modify his technique was near impossible without the model he got from mahoraga.
Sukunas panic at seeing Gojo potentially return further proves it to be true. It was Yuta unfortunately who isnt as battle wise and couldnt use Gojo's body well. Sukuna states he recognized several factors Yuta was handling poorly including maintaining his own domain. Sukuna wouldnt have options to hit him other than domain. The instantaneous activation was one time only.
All this to say, Gojo can win without infinity. Thats something he developed after he started taking his training seriously. An application of limitless. But its not what he relies on beat his opponents.
@@ThePsycoNinjaSukuna did not need mahoraga
@alexzander1142 gotta back that claim up my boi
@@ThePsycoNinja after some domain clashes gojo would be cooked
@alexzander1142 *sighs* no he wouldnt. He wasnt cooked when it happened in the series. In the series, if mahoraga didnt come out to save the day TWICE, Sukuna would have lost. Then if Mahoraga didnt come up with a way to bypass infinity, Sukuna would not have done so. He states it was impossible to do without mahoraga's model
The only reason sukuna used ten shadows was to find a way to get past infinity
Yes but when he was getting past it in his domain he still couldn’t kill him. His slashes couldn’t kill gojo
@@trickeruniverse1979 because he was focusing to much on adapting and took
unnecessary damage because of it. Sukuna would have won in the five domain clash and beaten gojo
@@trickeruniverse1979even gojo wondered why is sukuna taking the risks
Aw shit here we go again....
@@micahmoses1799 What are you talking about
He didn't take any damage when Gojo was in MS
We aren't talking about the clashes we are talking about after Gojo's domain broke.
5:50
Why bro say easily when gojo himself admits in short fights Miguel would actually beat him?
Anyone who has a sliver of a chance of doing just this wouldn’t get dominated in any capacity. Miguel didn’t get that beating in the manga, the animators just went overboard
The manga actually states he fought evenly with Gojo, which is better than what Toji can say
Yeah,Miguel did use the black rope for gojo's infinity if infinity isnt there that means he would use his CT (that's allow him to dodge anything his opponents throw at him) 😅 actually that fight won't end until Miguel run out of CE
@@Animeplanet25 man could you imagine a fight like that, I was really disappointed in his performance In Shinjuku I really wanted to see more of what he could do
@@micahmoses1799 what did you expect then?? He actually performed better than expected lmao
@@Animeplanet25 the way he was hyped up I expected him to fight longer
@@micahmoses1799 nah hes just smart bro trust
he also did what he said he was gonna do
he speed blitzed sukuna when he saved ui ui then he dodged dismantles and walked up and punched sukuna in the stomach
maki cant even say. she had to stab him from the back . when she was really facing him she got manhandled
Gojo's dodging probably be improved by a lot as he relied on infinity for 99% of his fights.
Gojo already can dodge almost effortlessly lol
@@xX_CidAtomic_Xx we've never seen Gojo remote try dodging besides the last Toji fight and the Sukuna fight and even in that fight he still got hit multiple times and could've used improvements.
Hell in the Sukuna fight he still relied on Infinity to block most of the blows besides Sukunas fists and when Mahoraga figured out how to get past it the first time.
@ he was dodging against agito mahoraga and sukuna, he also did a lot of counter attacking.
@ He was only dodging Sukuna and Mahoraga and not Agito (since Agito couldn't bypass infinity) and still got hit so if he didnt rely on infinity and actively had to dodge attacks he wouldn't have gotten hit as quickly therefore would've lasted longer.
As of usual lumiere is cooking 🙏 lowk editing improved ngl. As for the final round I want it to be know that I morely see sukuna winning and while your right we do see his second priority is infinity but without it he’ll never need domain amp making it so not only can his AP and h2h be better but shrine can be more effective I say this due to hanami or jogo saying that domain amp feels like punching underwater which we know is just harder over all it makes the fight much simpler for sukuna and honestly I see both fighters fighting differently but without infinity out the way I definitely sukuna winning on that 5th domain clash or sometime before still I do see gojo winning in some scenarios but I see sukuna winning 8 times out of 10.
But still great video.
Btw when next stream gng?
Next stream soon bro and preciate it GOAT🔥🐐
@ no keep it up gng💯
What if gojo didn’t stare at toji as a child 💀
No. Gojo is so strong that his infinity is redundant.
the world slash that killed gojo was unexpected, gojo thought he won but sukuna launched that world slash without chants and hand signs. basically just stood there and gojo died
Without infinity sukuna just adapts faster and is more aggressive
Gojo would look way worse if he had to fight without infinity
Except sukuna already tried pilling pressure and it failed as he even lost some h2h interactions in his own amped domain,fight changes alot but it can still go to the post domain section
@@AhmadKazan-wk7ei he literally couldn't even use shrine on gojo. without infinity, sukuna just does chip damage and gojo would look way less aggressive as a result
combos with agito and mahoraga would be so much easier to perfrom cuz they wouldnt need to wait for mahoraga to attack gojo before they could attack cuz every time mahoraga attack gojo, he shut down infinity momentarily
@@AhmadKazan-wk7ei chapter 260 states no matter how low sukunas energy is as long as he waits for the cooldown he can open as many as he wants
Gojo against meguna purposely taking hits for raga to adapt and turned off his sure hit during the 3rd and 4th allowed raga
Gojo has a max of 5 domain expansions before he can't handle opening another 1 for the day. Usually people can only open 1
if gojo never hit UV sukuna would of opened another domain and killed gojo slowly, gojo might of pulled of some plays but he can't do much if it was just 4 arms. (HWB defended against yutas and yuji's domain for a good while)
fire editing btw (sfx still lacks, lol)
One thing I think is pretty important here is that a lot of Gojo's speed comes from infinity teleportations which involves compressing co-ordinates using Infinity(as stated by Kusakabe in the Gojo v Sukuna fight). He's probably still faster than every character here save for Sukuna and Jogo. I think Jogo v Gojo would've been a lot more interesting because of that since his geysers could be difficult to evade. Still a win, but a more interesting one.
Honestly If Gojo didn't have infinity it would be better for him because Sukuna would probably try to use cleave and dismantle but they are massively superior to MS which gojo can eat so they do nothing, on top of that he would need to turn off DA and he'll take more damage from red and blue.
The real problem is the rest of limitless and UV.
W video goat
BIG W🐐🔥🔥🔥
@@Levathon gojo can't eat attacks from MS, he literally has to turn his RCT to maximum if he want to survive and even then he chose to run
@@micahmoses1799 He eats it using rct, lol.
Him running doesn't change the fact that he ate the slashes on panel.
@@Levathon the whole point of gojo healing his burnout ct is because he couldn’t keep tanking MS slashes
Broski, the only reason he ate those attacks was because he has rct on full throttle , if what ur saying true he would have to have rct full throttle on the whole fight 😂which would be impossible he'd legit lose faster
I think for everything except gojo vs sukuna you are right, infinity was a major problem in that fight and sukuna was adapting to unlimited void and inifinity in fact the only reason he got in the situation he did having to use agito and mahoraga was to get a model to bypass infinity without sukuna just attacks relentlessly with 10 shadows or shrine and kills him with out getting the world slash it wont be easy its gojo after all but no infinity sukuna's options increase massively
Yeah you’re right, but he’d still need to use mahoraga, if he wants to protect himself from domain, but it does give him very good odds when he adapts to UV
@Lumiere300 yeah, probably, since he still needs to fight the students, he will use the 10 shadows, but it will make the fight not as interesting since sukuna does not need to find ways to bypass infinity
@@Lumiere300gojo isn't t landing a single domain lmao, ur such a glazer, without mahoraga sukuna already won all clashes besides 1, and in 2 of the clashes sukuna couldn't touch gojo because he turnt off domain amp for mahoraga to adapt which caused him to take too much damage which resulted in .01 clash delay 😂 basically gojo would've been cooked either way
@@commie666🤡🤡🤡
@@commie666aint you got cooked by toxo9212 in the other comment before?
Strongly disagree with Sukuna. Sukuna wins pretty easily.
Why does know one remember that cleave can adapt to someone’s durability meaning sukuna could use cleave and then turn off shrine to activate ten shadows also the world slash would still hit gojo cause of the binding vow that made it unreadable
It can, doesn’t mean it will, it depends on the toughness of the opponent
@ In every panel of Sukuna using Cleave on someone it obliterates them. So safe to say Gojos limbs would easily get cut off bro be another Jogo victim just not as bad.
gojo would die in shinjuku
9:45 I don't think this is right, we never saw kashimo dodging WCS, sukuna just slashed he's attack, their no evidence he was dodging it. This assumption have no basis.
It’s pretty blatant to me on the panel and the surrounding context, maybe I’m wrong though
Didn't maki dodge WCS?
@@Lumiere300 Their's nothing evident, he litteraly saw nothing
@@alpejohnson491 Yes she did, with her pre cognition
Toji already destroy him with infinity imagine him without it against him😂💀
At last , it is here
YES!, I lowkey rushed this though so the editing is a little rough 😔
@@Lumiere300the thumbnail looks me after i smoked it
I thought when using amplification you can't use your CT and if he doesn't need amplification, he can be more playful with his CT
To be very honest, Gojo and Sukuna are two faces on the same coin 🪙...what I mean by this, As Gojo said, Sukuna didn't fully fight as he like to fight but it's because of infinity alone (Watch Sukuna vs the curse spirit, Sukuna vs Jogo and Sukuna vs Mahoraga, you will understand how Sukuna normally fight and why Gojo said he wasn't fully able to give everything he had)...Sukuna couldn't use the shrine in the fight as he usually do, In conclusion:
1- Sukuna would have constantly cleave Gojo's hand in close combat (normally you cannot possibly fight Sukuna like Gojo did, it's impossible)....but there is one problem Gojo can activate blue around his hands, which mean those cleave will be absorb in blue 🔵 center (as I said they are two faces in the same coin, a debate around them will always be like that because they can nullify each other even with infinity in the game and Sukuna would have still used domain amplification against 🔵🔴🟣 those techniques are still operating on an atomic level, they represent the spatial manipulation).
2-Don't know the outcome but Sukuna would have been on defense as always in distance even with dismantle, because Gojo's spatial manipulation 🔵🔴 can easily counter dismantle without teleportation (keeping two blue 🔵 in his hands will always negates dismantle).
3- Cleave can definitely be a win condition in this fight only in first contact, because in close combat Gojo wouldn't know that Sukuna can easily use cleave like that, which mean Gojo would have lost his hands and his head after this (only manga readers can understand this part...whatever the anime, it's difficult to fight Sukuna without a proper defense in the way or a very very great regenerative ability, you will die, because it's not the common fighting style).
- all of this, it's after unlimited void adaptation.
I'm not sure if Blue would always or even any time absorb Sukuna's cuts, that's enters more on headcanons that only Gege can answer truly
@joseaugustosoriano5094 Yes blue 🔵 can absorb techniques and everything in it's center (its like mini black hole with attraction and absorption capacity), you are waiting Gege for everything bro, just take a look in the manga (chapter 235 page 14)...Blue 🔵 absorbs the piercing water that Sukuna uses to destroy the red 🔴.... don't forget all Gojo's techniques (neutral infinity, 🔵🔴🟣) are operating on atomic level, when blue absorb something, it's destroyed in the center on an atomic level (you didn't see how Blue absorb Agito and now you're saying it can absorbs curse techniques.🤷♂️).
@dalcedarry8863 iirc it was debunked that it really destroyed things at atomic level
And also: the water from the elephant is not the same as a dismantle
Saying one thing happens because one thing without connection to the other happens
@@joseaugustosoriano5094 What do you understand when it's said that Gojo's manipulating space on an atomic level? What are the spatial abilities (Neutral infinity, 🔵🔴🟣), even with neutral infinity he erased Hanami in Shibuya.🤦♂️
- Yes blue 🔵 can attract and absorb anything in it's center, it's in the manga, you are waiting for Gege to explain explain you every page with statement...check each time Gojo used blue, the normal slashes aren't Mahoraga, stop with this nonsense. (Chapter 71 page 15, chapter 234 and chapter 235), All Gojo's techniques can easily kill an opponent, that's why Sukuna was constantly using domain amplification.
Dismantles won't be absorbed by blue,Gojo cannot react to dismantles
Absolutely.
Nuf said.
Yes, next question
All of his fights go the same pretty much and against Sukuna he probably has to try harder as Sukuna adapts to infinite void faster
Sukuna would be able to use fuga on gojo because there's no infinity to protect him from cleave and dismantle sukuna could see that using mahoraga to adapt for infinite void isn't worth not being able to use fuga
Gojo cant win against Sukuna without infinity, but if he used it different then maybe he could. Instead of having it either on or off he could maybe turn it on right as Sukuna-s slashes are hitting him, and maybe turn it off completely in hand to hand. With this, Mahoraga cant really adapt to infinity and so his chances are better, however seeing how clever Sukuna was he could for sure counter this strategy with something, so it would be interesting to see how this plays out
Gojo cannot even react to dismantles and Cleaves,that won't work
the world cutting slash that was used against Gojo is diferent from the one used on kashimo because of him not needing any chants or hand signs. A I understand it these wcs worked as a normal dismantle like the one Sukuna spams but with the special properties of the WCS so its likely that Gojo couldn't evade it. If Sukuna had this version of the wcs for the whole battle against the sorcerers then not even the top tiers like Yuta could do anything cause the only dodging that is Maki and even like that its not imposible for her to be hit by it.
can you do next what if tenn geto was in shibuya plsss ❤
Gojo tanked 120% slashes from malevolent shrine - No wonder Plotkuna had to target the space/world where Gojo stood physically, the WCS ignores durability and CE reinforcement, its like a spatial phenomena. I dont care what anyone says but without WCS Sukuna is just another Gojo victim.
You do realize Gojo would've fell to Shrine eventually or to an domain amped Fuga if he didnt have Infinity (whole reason why Sukuna didnt use it cause he couldn't)
Also yes ik Shrines sure hit bypasses it but the point being Sukuna would've been able to use his techniques and his Domain at the same time due to infinity not existing in this scenario.
(cause imagine trying to keep reinforcing your body to tank shrine but also trying to dodging whatever the fuck Sukuna is throwing at you in the process whether itd be cleave, dismantle, spider cleave, waffle dismantle, Fuga and what not..)
@ I think you forgot that Gojo didnt have infinity after the first domain clash and he not only tanked the 120% sure hit slashes he also did hand to hand, used simple domain twice, and HEALED HIS BURNT OUT CURSED TECHNIQUE WITH RCT - Destroyed his own brain. Sukuna without wcs aint doing shit to Gojo bro its okay, your character won just leave it at that.
When did Sukuna use 120% MS on Go / jo ?
Gojo without Infinity would beat Sukuna without Dismantle IMO, Gojo is faster, about the same strength with his technique, and his martial arts always outclassed Sukuna, without the invisible quick slashes Sukuna would only be able to make contact to cleave and shoot the slow ahh Furnace. GOATJO would cook
Sukuna beats Gojo with his fire arrow.
Gojo is fast enough to either dodge, catch the arrow with Blue (pretty comical), or just.. Counter with red. If it had the flame AOE, gojo STILL escapes.
He lost to sukuna with infinity so without it, it's still a lose
Nah if he didn't have infinty then WCS wouldn't be made to end gojo
@@shiloh-o6h The whole point of the fight was as soon as sukuna finds another way besides DA or DE to bypass infinity gojo loses WCS would not be needed in this scenario
Sukuna would just spam slashes in mid of the hand to hand combat and easly win😂
Gojo would lose much quicker against sukuna
How is gojo getting sealed count as a win?
Because he didn’t lose the fights, I explained it in the vid, but if you wanna count that as a lost you can, But he legit just didn’t lose any of the fights
@@Lumiere300 him getting sealed is him loosing the fight
@@micahmoses1799that only happened because he was trying to not kill civilians. All the cursed spirits knew they would lose almost immediately without those distractions
@@micahmoses1799 He got sealed Means the plan worked for the soul purpose they were there. Doesn't mean they won physically against gojo...in short
Plan won/succeeded ≠wining the fight physically...
This video is using fights as a counting. ... So tell me, did they physically overpower gojo without infinity or won?
Ans is = no...
Cuz in reality. 0.2 sec domain was enough for all of them. It's just gojo was rendered to do so untill he reached the 100°C .
@@Unboundedcurse dude if they came up with a plan to seal him and the plan worked how is that a victory for gojo when the disaster curses literally achieved their objective
I’m not gonna watch the whole video. Gojo is nothing without his cursed technique because of how the power system works in Jujutsu Kaisen. There are basic forms of utilizing cursed energy but without Infinity, Gojos cursed energy gets nerfed because he no longer can use the six eyes to create his system that allows him to have boundless cursed energy. Besides basic usage of cursed energy, like CE reinforcement, Advanced Cursed Energy Control- Etc, there really isn’t much Gojo has besides his domain expansion, which he probably still could be capable of casting without his infinity sense domains are a manifestation of their soul technically. Without Infinity, Gojo would have the six eyes, it would be pretty beneficial when it comes to managing Gojos Cursed Energy and being able to see other peoples techniques but it wouldn’t really give any major buffs. Gojo wouldn’t be the strongest anymore, Blud would prob just be like a grade 1 sorcerer at the best.
Gojos also already stated/implied that his cursed energy is lower than Yutas at base form. Gojos RCT might come in handy when it comes to healing himself, being a fast healer but that’s only thanks to the six eyes, and without infinity using RCT the way he did before would just burn out his CE wayyyyy faster.
Yes gojo can still kill sukuna like nothing although gojo vs Sukuna is one most one sided physical fight happened
To the people in the comments that believe (gojo pre seal/ gojo no ♾️) wins i have 1 question What are yall reading 🙏🏿😭im ngl this comprehension demon is actually a real thing
@@Sirdagger-v I know right if the dude couldn't win with infinity why would he win without it
This is some HEAVY glazing on gojo wtf 😂
He’s really just that strong though.
except he is better than anyone at anything (not sukuna obv) so yeah
@@Raijin1770 he is really not though. Gojo says multiple times sukuna held back. The entire narrative point is that sukuna is stronger.
Saying without infinity it goes the same is heinous
No but against sukuna yeah
Funny how Gojo without infinity what would be considered a nerf to him basically not only isn't is weaker he directly is stronger
(Sukuna fans in the comments showing again than they never read the manga, why they always say than Sukuna would defeat Gojo using his domain when was literally showed than he can't literally 5 times)
He was literally in a FAR weaker body. Sukuna in a teens body verses. Above 6 foot tall and 4 arms and jacked as hell. If your argument was that gojo didn't lose in h2h during the domain clashes. What do you think would happen if you gave sukuna dozens of kilos of muscle and and 4 fucking arms. Gojo is mot winning the domain clashes against that in h2h
@@DawnChaser-yn his body is not weaker. Where do y'all get that info? His durability and strength in whatever body is based off of Sukuna's CE. In megumi, Sukuna has access to 100 percent of his CE. Meaning he is stronger than Yujikuna and by a lot too. Thats all stated in the manga.
If sukuna's durability and strength were based off megumi's, he wouldnt even be able to battle Gojo not even a little. It would be over in seconds.
There's tons of proof throughout the series but I keep seding people saying meguna's body is weak. Its false
@@DawnChaser-yn He literally didn't, there is no even one single proof than says than the body affects Sukuna's power, the only difference between bodys are the techniques, also Sukuna in his true form was dominated by everyone physically
@@ThePsycoNinjaMeguna was getting thrashed by Kashimo, once he transformed into his true form he was the one doing the thrashing. Nuff said Sukuna’s true form body is > Megunas
@ThatsCrazy482 Meguna had just finished fighting Gojo and his brain was permanently damaged leaving him enable to heal or fight. If that's who you compare kashimo to you should be ashamed. Kashimo wasnt able to 1 shot that hurt meguna thats the real shame lol.
So like, meguna's body is not weal because its megumi. Megumics durability has nothing to do with it
People dont understand. Gojo's infinity is like domain amplification except with a slowing effect. Thats why they always need it to neutralize infinity. The same way a domain sure hit can neutralize another domain sure hit.
So in most situations. Gojo still dominates the same. The only exceptions would be Sukuna.
But its literally impossible for him to not have infinity. To get rid of it, you would need to get rid of limitless which is inpossible. Its innate to his body. Even without it, he can use blue to repel most things. He is still one of the fastest, physically strong and durable people in the verse. To understand his speed, remember all of Toji's strikes looked like slow motion. Gojo is that fast and percieves information faster as well. Like multiple minutes of info in just a single moment. It takes someone like Sukuna to take him down and vice versa.
@@ThePsycoNinja the first time I see a reader understand how complex and powerful domain amplification, this defense is a masterpiece, DA help against 3 purples 🟣, that's enough to understand...DA and infinity are in the same grade in terms of defense, that's also why they say Sukuna would have won the fight if he could have used his technique at the same time.
@dalcedarry8863 I would agree. For example. When Gojo strengthens outside his barrier, he weakens the interior. To counter, Sukuna turned off his sure hit so he had to have DA on inside the domain clash. During this moment, if he could use DA and his own techniques Sukuna likely could win right here.
How it happened, Gojo used falling blossom emotion to reduce damage from shrine's strikes. If this applied to all Sukuna's techniques maybe they would likely keep fighting longer. But if Sukuna has attacks that can overpower falling blossom emotion then maybe not.
I personally think Sukuna being able to use DA and techniques at the same time(assuming he does Not have mahoraga), would just turn into a fight where both Sukuna and Gojo just start launching their strongest attacks at eachother.
The difference is that Sukuna cant bypass Gojo's DA unless he is engages in close quaters combat and overpowers infinity with his own DA.
But both Gojo's longer range and close range attacks can pierce even Sukuna's DA. So its still 50/50 in the end who would win imo. Theres a lot of situations that can happen. Sukuna best bet is use mahoraga OR try to strike down Gojo inside domains. If it were possible use DA and techniques at the same time, this way Sukuna could neutralize limitless while also charging the WCS and try to hit Gojo similar to how he did it in the manga
@@ThePsycoNinjaYes, its 50/50:
- Gojo will use: Fallen blossom and RCT (FBE is a external curse energy manipulation, you can generate positive energy from inside) + Blue 🔵 in both his hands, Sukuna will be force to use the same strategy (Domain amplification +adaptation), teleportation will be in play also because you cannot really counter this teleportation by it's nature, it will always work because.... Without infinity Gojo is still the final boss.
- Sukuna will use: the shrine in a more offensive aspect because from chapter 224 to 235, he always use dismantle and cleave in defensive aspect to remove himself in difficult situation, it's subtle, you can count the cleave and dismantle on your hands (I think its five when you count the world cutting slash also, the precision is unreal), you cannot use 2 curse techniques at the same time, but he will still use ten shadow for adaptation during domain clash because unlimited void will still be his first priority.
Same outcome (50/50), but Sukuna has unpredictable attack (Cleave) for first contact, in close combat he can surprise you by cutting both your arms and cut your head with dismantle, this one is a win condition because in chapter 225 page 17 and 226 page 1, if you check closely Gojo use RCT externally to heal his neck, then in a close combat Gojo would have immediately loose (cleave his 2 arms and dismantle his head is a win con. But one chance or opportunity like against the domain expansion, because if he fails, it will never work again against Gojo).
@dalcedarry8863 Sukuna cannot cleave off Gojo's arms and head. If that were the case, then MS would have done so. But not a single limb was lost. Dont forget Sukuna still has to aim his cleave and dismantles. Gojo can see them coming. They alone are not a win condition. I told you, people dont understand infinity. They see it as something that if turned off, Gojo will not be durable. Its not the case. The first slash in MS cut his neck and didnt slice it clean off. It near disintegrated mahoraga and stone and metal buildings so you cant say Sukuna was holding back. Gojo was durable enough to not be dismembered immediately. The RCT helped after this point but this is all the proof we need to know Gojo can tank slashes. He was exposed to slashes multiple times and never dismembered immediately. Not even piercing blood from Sukuna dismembered Gojo. Mahoragas enhanced Dismantle was the only thing to do it
@@ThePsycoNinja I'm talking about first contact, also MS didn't cut Gojo because he was using RCT in a spectacular way to immediately heal upon the slashes contact... first contact in close combat he can loose his arms without infinity (that's how scary Sukuna really is when you don't know his technique)...chapter 226 show a Gojo taking off guard by the slash in his neck, he was obliged to use RCT with his hand, imagine in first contact without infinity and blue 🔵 around his hands like against Jogo... (My point isn't a win condition in itself because in chapter 223 Gojo use blue around 🔵 his hands and Sukuna used domain amplification as their first stance, that's the only reason, after Sukuna can win with a off guard cleave and dismantle immediately after).
Yoooo
W thumbnail by boi also ngl it's a scary thought to think of gojo did not have infinity toji could just use SSK to kill him since I doubt teen gojo could even come close to healing his soul even when he awakens
Why would toji even used isoh in the first place when he could just one shot with ssk
The 6E inherently possess soul awareness, so by extension, Gojo would too.
@@Bahamut00000 it doesn't matter if he can't heal it
@ OP referred to awakened Gojo, and so does my comment.
@@Bahamut00000 oh sorry about dude
Nope gojo will not lose to sukuna bro
The only reason why sukuna wins
Bc he s sneak attack him
With world cutting slash
Sukuna fans:🤓👆uhhmm..all actually sukuna was domain expansion
That ain't working for gojo bc spam simple domain
Gojo wins with expert diff
NO
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how did bro just pronounce neutral??😂😂
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Keep scaling gojo to 2nd strongest sukuna gojo fans stay coping 😂
I feel like he neglected a lot of his growth due to been untouchable.
Literally even after unlocking automatic infinity he never stopped growing, never stopped training his hand to hand and techniques so still be the the most unstoppable sorcerer even without it
@mikeoxlon I get you bro, but I feel like he could have been more without that defence after all gege did say that he could do anything he tries but he doesn't because he doesn't want to overwhelm the new generation of sorcerer and I feel like that is a growth stunt in a way.
@gojosatoru72869 i think you should reread his fight with sukuna, see how 'stunt' his growth is fighting the strongest sorcerer in history. See his performance against him with no cursed technique, being bombarded with sure hit cleaves, having to fight using cursed energy whilst using rct to heal himself, if this is his stunt growth i have no idea
@mikeoxlon I know he is extremely talented and versatile but what I am saying is that infinity is a defence he knows he can always fall back on, after all if hadn't failed him until the fight with toji. When you have a defence as broken as infinity you tend to lax you physical strength a bit, so what I am saying in essence is that he would be more of a monster since he knows nothing can protect him if he didnt have the infinity
@gojosatoru72869 he had always trained without putting his infinity on the equation LMAO. AGAIN reread the fight with sukuna, he didnt even panic like OH NO MY INFINITY, WHAT AM I GONN DO?? I DID NOT PREPARE FOR THIS
Gojo the moment his infinity disappears outside of his verse: 😰
If you remove infinity from Gojo then he wouldn't have blue or red or purple because they're all based on infinity.
They are based on limitless technique...... infinity, blue, red all of them are part of limitless technique