Tom, thanks so much for videos and instruction. I derived so much value last season from them, and look forward to more refinements with your direction. What a visual model Chris is for me!
Great, great drill and exercise ! Chris completely finishes his short swing turns. A lot of upper level skiers, and instructors, need to see this, as I see too many people not finishing their turns !! Thanks so much for sharing . . .
Thanks and thanks for watching. Yes, I have always put a lot of emphasis on finishing the turns. This is totally overlooked usually even at quit high level. People like to stay in the fall line and they catch too much speed. It took me some time to figure out how to carve really steep sections of the slope like the steep part of Levi Black but then at some point I figured out that really checking the speed after each turn was the key factor and that was not possible without finishing the turns properly. Cheers, T
Thanks for watching. Exactly, this is actually a drill we came up with ourselves. The side slipping and jumping drill is of-course not mine but I never saw that one being used out on the hill other than by ski racers I coached. Only in RUclips videos. Cheers, Tom
@@Triggerboy62 Best of my regards from Greece!! I have come across discovering the role of the upper knee movement as I experimenting with the efficiency of my turns as a skier. It felt to me that it accelerates the edges change and facilitates transition phase. Being a ski coach -instructor for quite a lot of years, I had not seen any one coach so far to explain so clear and I was kind of curious why. Thanks again for sharing!!
Howdy! Thanks, and thanks for watching! Dont know from where you are in Tx but I lived a year in Manor and Austin for my senior year. My first of my two seasons ever I did not ski. Just wrestling cattle and riding pick ups hahaaa! Take care, T
Great ski advice as always from you Tom. 😊 Very clear on the video. Very well described too. Very cold season just finished 3 weeks in NZ. Still snowing like crazy but the ski fields are closed. Look forward to more of your videos. 😊
Wow, great to have viewers from NZ. 148 views on my channel from NZ in the last 28 days :) We are entering the cold season here in Finland at the moment. Hoping for lots of great skiing but not as cold as last year please..... worst was -38degC on morning..... but the show must go on.
Thank you and regards to you as well. And to all my other viewers in Poland. One of the countries in Europe where my videos are watched the most. Cheers, T
"Skid before the fall line" is a stivot turn. Amazing to watch the WC racers use these, even in downhill races, to add more redirection without spilling much speed. Going in too straight without enough angulation leads to skidding out the bottom of the turn and falling way behind on the clock.
Exactly..... still commentators on TV and coaches on the hill get this wrong. Calling out skidding on top of the turn for wrong not understanding it is intentional and functional and fast. That is called "tactics". An other thing "experts" get wrong all the time is that they claim you should not increase edging and fight gravity past the fall line. Skidding on top of the turn and carving cleanly from the fall line to finish need increased edge angles and the pressure building up. Thanks for calling out the stivot turn! Cheers, T
Really good. I will try this in 2-3 weeks. Maybe you can do one video about bringing the center of mass forward to engage the tip of new outside ski from a flexed transition (moving the heel of the outside feet behind your hip) I did this wrong for 2 years when I started to carve and i wasnt able to engage the tip. I saw one video from swiss interski and it helped me a lot to turn.
I would be glad making a video like that. What exactly did the swiss interski instructor show in the video? IMO it is not so much to engage the tip of the ski that we extend the new outside leg, it is more because we want to have our hips forwards in order not to get caught in the back seat. If you have proper skis and they are tuned properly then usually extending after the transition you automatically get the tip engaged. BTW, I used to place the bindings of my skis too far forwards. That was a huge mistake. Now I put the bindings according to the specifications of the manufacturer and that is way better. Do you have a link to the video? Cheers, Tom
Tom, After trying this on different skis a few days this season, what works best for me is to crank the knees (via femur rotation) progressively more and more from edge engagement to direction change done. Really increases edge angle and tightens turn radius. Thank you.
Hahahaaa.... yes, good to be back. And more to come. Im going to Levi next week and gonna try to get as much video published from there as I possibly can. Cheers, T
Hi Tom, great video as always! Luckily for me, I figured out this move intuitively while progressing in skiing and have been practicing it since. When I first practiced this, it took me some time to achieve the move, and I always ended up too far from my turn apex. That’s okay in the early stages because you need to learn it and get a feel for it. Once you’ve mastered it, the next step is to blend it into the turn so it happens right after the apex. And ideally we need to combine it with pendulum move in the turn to get the best results
Wow, this is a great comment. I dont know if I was clear enough as I cut half of the lesson when editing not to make it too long but make the usage of knees part of your overall skiing movements. In short turns more knees, in faster lower turns less knees to keep stacked and un-injured. Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 I think it’s quite clear to me, but it might be misunderstood by others. For me, this movement comes mostly from my ankles, with my knees also involved, but it starts with the ankles. As soon as you start to understand it, you need to begin practicing it early in the turn-I’d say around the apex or at the slalom gate. If you only start this movement at the end of the turn, it could create a bad habit of always being late with it. You need to practice so that, essentially, you start this movement in the middle of the turn. In the video, as Chris demonstrates it, he comes off the edge slightly and then cranks the edge again. This can also mislead viewers trying to understand the whole picture; it’s only an exercise. When done properly, you don’t come off the edge-you just add (or crank) more edge.
Hi ! Your video makes me up to skiing always. It is a little chilly morning today in my town. But in Levi it is 11degrees now. What`s happen?? 10 days to go...
Yes, very warm in Levi today..... however, they saved snow from last year and its been cold for a few weeks so they have prepared the village slope and Levi Black. They are water injected so very good training and racing conditions. Not so good for the average Joe.....
Thank you for this drills - really helpfull! :-) Can you please make a Video about what physical Fitness of the body / legs is minimum needed for clean, deep and powerfull carving - and maybe what are good Fitness drills to get prepared for the up coming season? Thank you and still watching your Videos again and again to improve technic :-)
Fitness videos have been requested for a long time but I have somehow always taught that the internet and youtube is full of good apps and videos. For carving it is however really important that you train explosive power as well as endurance. And balancing skills are very important. Chris has a background in gymnastics and I can not praise that sport well enough as a base for great fitness. T
Great, thanks for such tips! Btw that's one of the differences between skiing and skytech simulator. Theory there says that you shouldn't use your knees (but it's fun anyway). p.s. as at the last Chris run, leaving right hand behind is my favourite too😁
Thanks for watching. Its kind of a blended movement. If you point your knees into the turn but at the same time angulate and counter at the hip it looks different. What knee pointing does is puts a twist in your ankle. Cheers, T
I like your videos, very clear and concise. I have Rustler 94, which are freeride skis, 94mm wide. Do you think I have a chance to carve with thoses skis? I tryed to carve last season, but my kids said that was funny to watch, not looking like real carving 😂
You can carve with almost any ski as they all have a bit of side cut but your skis are by no means made for carving. See if you can rent or test proper carving skis. Cheers, T
@@gregmiller8152 Once you master this move, it’s done earlier in the turn, right after the apex. In videos, it’s done later so you can better see what’s happening. And as you start practice it its also easyer to atchive it latter in the turn.
Yes, the move actually comes where you need it. For demo purposes we did it at the end. As a part of a training pass for activating our knees. I need to make a new one explaining how you at the start of the turn bring your knees neutral from the previous turn and then continue to crank them into the new turn. In short turns you cannot see the movement because it is fully integrated into your other leg movements. Cheers, T
My gut tells me it is not just as simple as just moving my knees 😂. It really looks like if handled improperly, it could throw off my balance, and it probably involves ankle and hip altogether, but we don’t have snow yet to try it out.
You are onto something.... it's not that easy as it indeed upsets your balance but you need to over incline a bit before and then you need to fix your balance during the float/transition. Cheers, T
It is a drill aimed at getting more movement at your ankles and hip sockets. These are mainly just drills increasing edge angles and edging. But you need that flexibility and movement range at the hip and the ankles. Cheers, T
Great skiing is far from simple. Trying to keep it simple is a common reason why ski lessons that try to 'keep it simple' have resulted in a high percentage of mediocre skiers. To become a great skier, you must love diving into the complexity as Tom and Chris have done.
Thanks guys for your input here! I actually try to make things as simple as I can. Out on the snow it is simpler because there I can show it pretty quickly with just a few moves. Here I need to describe it in detail and blablablabla..... it becomes long and complicated. So, think of it this way, watch it a 100 times and then go out and nail it! Cheers, T
Your videos are the only thing keeping me sane before this ski season
Hahahaaa..... thank G for RUclips :)
I'd said it before but your videos are absolutely brilliant. Very simple, very clear and progressive.
Wow, thanks! Cheers, Tom
Thank you for the free lessons; your videos are AMAZING! ALL OF THEM!
You're very welcome! Cheers, Tom
Tom, Great to see new technique videos from you again. Thank you !
Hi Tom, I'm looking forward to combining this drill with the tips you gave in the "sitting" video. Let the winter fun begin!
much love from italy, i booked the first ride of the season in a couple of weeks and i can't wait to try this. thank you so much
Great, have fun! Tom
Tom, thanks so much for videos and instruction. I derived so much value last season from them, and look forward to more refinements with your direction. What a visual model Chris is for me!
Great to hear! More videos coming up in the near future. Cheers, T
Great, great drill and exercise !
Chris completely finishes his short swing turns. A lot of upper level skiers, and instructors, need to see this, as I see too many people not finishing their turns !!
Thanks so much for sharing . . .
Thanks and thanks for watching. Yes, I have always put a lot of emphasis on finishing the turns. This is totally overlooked usually even at quit high level. People like to stay in the fall line and they catch too much speed. It took me some time to figure out how to carve really steep sections of the slope like the steep part of Levi Black but then at some point I figured out that really checking the speed after each turn was the key factor and that was not possible without finishing the turns properly. Cheers, T
Very well and clear said. This is an isolated edge movement that most coaches do not show.
Thanks for watching. Exactly, this is actually a drill we came up with ourselves. The side slipping and jumping drill is of-course not mine but I never saw that one being used out on the hill other than by ski racers I coached. Only in RUclips videos. Cheers, Tom
@@Triggerboy62 Best of my regards from Greece!! I have come across discovering the role of the upper knee movement as I experimenting with the efficiency of my turns as a skier. It felt to me that it accelerates the edges change and facilitates transition phase. Being a ski coach -instructor for quite a lot of years, I had not seen any one coach so far to explain so clear and I was kind of curious why. Thanks again for sharing!!
Wow, Chris' skiing has really gotten awesome. Many thanks for this and all you do from your friend in Texas.
Howdy! Thanks, and thanks for watching! Dont know from where you are in Tx but I lived a year in Manor and Austin for my senior year. My first of my two seasons ever I did not ski. Just wrestling cattle and riding pick ups hahaaa! Take care, T
Great ski advice as always from you Tom. 😊 Very clear on the video. Very well described too. Very cold season just finished 3 weeks in NZ. Still snowing like crazy but the ski fields are closed. Look forward to more of your videos. 😊
Wow, great to have viewers from NZ. 148 views on my channel from NZ in the last 28 days :)
We are entering the cold season here in Finland at the moment. Hoping for lots of great skiing but not as cold as last year please..... worst was -38degC on morning..... but the show must go on.
You’re the best out there.
Wow, thanks! Reg, Tom
I love it. I'm looking forward to playing with is as soon as I can get back on the snow this season.
Hi, thanks for watching, lets hope that is soon! T
Bravo!
Thanks!
Thanks for another great vidro Tom. I will give it a go.
Please do! Cheers, T
Great tip! I will follow it when winter comes. Regards from Poland!🙂
Thank you and regards to you as well. And to all my other viewers in Poland. One of the countries in Europe where my videos are watched the most. Cheers, T
Great video, Tom! We were doing drills similar to this at Saas Fee this summer.
Nice! Great exercise! T
"Skid before the fall line" is a stivot turn. Amazing to watch the WC racers use these, even in downhill races, to add more redirection without spilling much speed. Going in too straight without enough angulation leads to skidding out the bottom of the turn and falling way behind on the clock.
Exactly..... still commentators on TV and coaches on the hill get this wrong. Calling out skidding on top of the turn for wrong not understanding it is intentional and functional and fast. That is called "tactics". An other thing "experts" get wrong all the time is that they claim you should not increase edging and fight gravity past the fall line. Skidding on top of the turn and carving cleanly from the fall line to finish need increased edge angles and the pressure building up. Thanks for calling out the stivot turn! Cheers, T
Really good.
I will try this in 2-3 weeks.
Maybe you can do one video about bringing the center of mass forward to engage the tip of new outside ski from a flexed transition (moving the heel of the outside feet behind your hip)
I did this wrong for 2 years when I started to carve and i wasnt able to engage the tip.
I saw one video from swiss interski and it helped me a lot to turn.
I would be glad making a video like that. What exactly did the swiss interski instructor show in the video? IMO it is not so much to engage the tip of the ski that we extend the new outside leg, it is more because we want to have our hips forwards in order not to get caught in the back seat. If you have proper skis and they are tuned properly then usually extending after the transition you automatically get the tip engaged. BTW, I used to place the bindings of my skis too far forwards. That was a huge mistake. Now I put the bindings according to the specifications of the manufacturer and that is way better. Do you have a link to the video? Cheers, Tom
great work :) still improving🖤
Thanks 😁
Thanks for another great video Tom! Could you do one about your thoughts binding delta and boot ramp angle someday?
Hi, great idea. I have been planning a video of boots in general including ramp and delta angles. Thanks for reminding me. Cheers, T
Tom, After trying this on different skis a few days this season, what works best for me is to crank the knees (via femur rotation) progressively more and more from edge engagement to direction change done. Really increases edge angle and tightens turn radius. Thank you.
Sounds great! Have you seen my new video on how to use the knees to carve?
Here: ruclips.net/video/epfjQWldfoM/видео.htmlsi=hPtaXazmnA6m-SmR
Like button smashed 🙂 Thank you for the great tips.
Thanks a million :)
Thanks. I wish I were in Levi right now.
You are welcome. I just arrived back here to Levi. Tomorrow we are hitting the slopes! T
Welcome back!
Hahahaaa.... yes, good to be back. And more to come. Im going to Levi next week and gonna try to get as much video published from there as I possibly can. Cheers, T
Really good!😊
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Tom, great video as always! Luckily for me, I figured out this move intuitively while progressing in skiing and have been practicing it since. When I first practiced this, it took me some time to achieve the move, and I always ended up too far from my turn apex. That’s okay in the early stages because you need to learn it and get a feel for it. Once you’ve mastered it, the next step is to blend it into the turn so it happens right after the apex. And ideally we need to combine it with pendulum move in the turn to get the best results
Wow, this is a great comment. I dont know if I was clear enough as I cut half of the lesson when editing not to make it too long but make the usage of knees part of your overall skiing movements. In short turns more knees, in faster lower turns less knees to keep stacked and un-injured. Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62
I think it’s quite clear to me, but it might be misunderstood by others. For me, this movement comes mostly from my ankles, with my knees also involved, but it starts with the ankles. As soon as you start to understand it, you need to begin practicing it early in the turn-I’d say around the apex or at the slalom gate. If you only start this movement at the end of the turn, it could create a bad habit of always being late with it. You need to practice so that, essentially, you start this movement in the middle of the turn.
In the video, as Chris demonstrates it, he comes off the edge slightly and then cranks the edge again. This can also mislead viewers trying to understand the whole picture; it’s only an exercise. When done properly, you don’t come off the edge-you just add (or crank) more edge.
Very cool!
Thanks!
Hi ! Your video makes me up to skiing always. It is a little chilly morning today in my town. But in Levi it is 11degrees now. What`s happen?? 10 days to go...
Yes, very warm in Levi today..... however, they saved snow from last year and its been cold for a few weeks so they have prepared the village slope and Levi Black. They are water injected so very good training and racing conditions. Not so good for the average Joe.....
Thank you for this drills - really helpfull! :-)
Can you please make a Video about what physical Fitness of the body / legs is minimum needed for clean, deep and powerfull carving - and maybe what are good Fitness drills to get prepared for the up coming season?
Thank you and still watching your Videos again and again to improve technic :-)
Fitness videos have been requested for a long time but I have somehow always taught that the internet and youtube is full of good apps and videos. For carving it is however really important that you train explosive power as well as endurance. And balancing skills are very important. Chris has a background in gymnastics and I can not praise that sport well enough as a base for great fitness. T
Great, thanks for such tips!
Btw that's one of the differences between skiing and skytech simulator. Theory there says that you shouldn't use your knees (but it's fun anyway).
p.s. as at the last Chris run, leaving right hand behind is my favourite too😁
Thanks for watching. Its kind of a blended movement. If you point your knees into the turn but at the same time angulate and counter at the hip it looks different. What knee pointing does is puts a twist in your ankle. Cheers, T
@4:00 so nice skiing :)
Yeah, thats a great clip. I finally found a good spot to use it! T
I like your videos, very clear and concise.
I have Rustler 94, which are freeride skis, 94mm wide. Do you think I have a chance to carve with thoses skis?
I tryed to carve last season, but my kids said that was funny to watch, not looking like real carving 😂
You can carve with almost any ski as they all have a bit of side cut but your skis are by no means made for carving. See if you can rent or test proper carving skis. Cheers, T
Bring on January!
Yes, and lots of snow and sun shine!
@Triggerboy62 fingers crossed. Take care 🙂
Wats your opinion about pmts sistem?(harald harb)
I have no hands on experience with it but since it is a direct to parallel system it is quite different to how I teach. T
If it's a good move for the end of the turn, wouldn't it be even better if done higher up in the turn? No snow here yet so I can't try it.
@@gregmiller8152
Once you master this move, it’s done earlier in the turn, right after the apex. In videos, it’s done later so you can better see what’s happening. And as you start practice it its also easyer to atchive it latter in the turn.
Yes, the move actually comes where you need it. For demo purposes we did it at the end. As a part of a training pass for activating our knees. I need to make a new one explaining how you at the start of the turn bring your knees neutral from the previous turn and then continue to crank them into the new turn. In short turns you cannot see the movement because it is fully integrated into your other leg movements. Cheers, T
👍🙏
My gut tells me it is not just as simple as just moving my knees 😂. It really looks like if handled improperly, it could throw off my balance, and it probably involves ankle and hip altogether, but we don’t have snow yet to try it out.
You are onto something.... it's not that easy as it indeed upsets your balance but you need to over incline a bit before and then you need to fix your balance during the float/transition. Cheers, T
@ Yes, I’ll need to start with the drill as I never quite did it before.
You should call this what it is... Tightening the Turn Radius.
Good point. Why didnt you tell me that earlier...... I need to make a new video of the topic. Thanks, T
@@Triggerboy62 You might want to check out Harb/PMTS, they made a video on this exact topic with nice drills and progressions.
Для чего это упражнение, что оно дает ?
It is a drill aimed at getting more movement at your ankles and hip sockets. These are mainly just drills increasing edge angles and edging. But you need that flexibility and movement range at the hip and the ankles. Cheers, T
@ спасибо 👍
Too many moving parts.
KISS.
Great skiing is far from simple. Trying to keep it simple is a common reason why ski lessons that try to 'keep it simple' have resulted in a high percentage of mediocre skiers. To become a great skier, you must love diving into the complexity as Tom and Chris have done.
@@obi-john218 As a retired instructor of 27 years, I whole heartedly agree !
Thanks guys for your input here! I actually try to make things as simple as I can. Out on the snow it is simpler because there I can show it pretty quickly with just a few moves. Here I need to describe it in detail and blablablabla..... it becomes long and complicated. So, think of it this way, watch it a 100 times and then go out and nail it! Cheers, T