What a total legend this man is! Really humble, would be an honour to meet him one day hopefully! He'd hate me within five minutes the number of questions I would fire his way. Sometimes I wish I was born in the states!
I love Tannoys, especially old ones. I still have my 30 year old Mercury II as nearfields. I couldn't hold on to my Lancasters (Gold 15s) when one particular studio closed. But Oh! they were immense. Beautiful sounding speakers.
I really adore the Tannoy System sound. At college they often use the System 800 and I really love it. Just a briliant clarity and rich low-end sound. Thanks for sharing, really helpful!
Tannoy Reveal 802 overhere, i'm a budget guy but i love them so much. When life hits you hard, you don't have the ability to treat the room on acoustics, but without it, they sound great. Once i will build a bigger studio, these tannoys will be staying for sure.
You still got them I was thinking about buying a pair it's for a room 20' by 14' solid wall can't go above £400 can't really see anything about this price register Yamaha but I'm not sure about them
creepyguy uhhh :( My heart pumps pity for you, mate... Maybe the company Triplex from Germany can help you with this: www.triplex-service.de/index.php/en/ good luck!
very similar. A little bit tighter low end and the cabinet is better decoupled. badass speakers the both of them. Also the other set is being repaired as we speak. SO happy. My mixes shall be perfect now!!!!
Tannoys are not like normal speakers however.They very often do sound best with the tweeters crossing a bit in front of you or behind you.Indeed in some models [I have owned Glenair 10s] that is exactly what Tannoy tells you. Most speakers image best with the tweeters and mids firing right at your head.
Tony might be left ear dominate. My preference is to also mono on the left. Quick way to tell your dominate ear (Which ear do you use when you pick up the phone)
If you can, position your monitors at the top corners of the room suspended from the ceiling face down to your ears at the same angle Tony Maserati is leaning
These being the 1200's, --does anyone know the difference between the 1200's and the System DMT 12's. I'm guessing the 1200's are a later version/improvement of the DMT 12's?
Had both; DMTs are better ...they both have the same sound , but the Systems over emphasize the mid range, while the DMTs have a balanced profile re highs, mids, lows. In fact, my impression of this dude goes down a notch knowing that he settled for the Systems for mastering.
As he explained, he's been used to audio engineer with the tweeters hitting behind his head. This is why he continued to do so. It's a habit, how he works the best because it's what he's used to, which is why he says that the sweet spot for speaker placement is what you get used to.
These are Tannoy System 1200 speakers - no subs! They have our Dual Concentric Drivers where the tweeter sits in the middle of the woofer. Check out the Tannoy Gold 5, 7 or 8 for the same type of driver: www.tannoy.com/product.html?modelCode=P0C2B
Tony’s got his physics wrong at the end there. The more dense the stand is, the better it will transfer energy to the room. We don’t want energy transferred to the room, so we want the least dense stands available. Definitely not solid steel or whatever his are made of.
Well...yes and no. If the speaker stands are denser, they will have a lower resonant frequency, meaning less chance they will vibrate or be excited by the speakers, and if they are denser via being filled with sand, there's less chance of sound transmission. Obviously there's a bit of a bell curve to this distribution, as for example, a piece of paper doesn't resonate much at all, but neither does a big concrete block. But in between those extremes, e.g., a thicker/denser drumhead has less sustain and resonance than a thinner drumhead. It also has a lower resonant frequency. A lot of this has to do with the dampening going on in the soundanchor stands, which are very, very dense and do. not. resonate. I know, because I have owned two sets. They are very good stands.
it makes a world of difference, it has nothing to do with his name, if you don't do that, you are in essence making that whole desk a speaker too, decoupling if done correctly, as he said, you will only hear your monitor and not what it is sitting on. people thing just putting their monitors on a table is correct, no it's not. listen to his advice, and you will fair well in your music ventures.
DHumphrey_AMP Yeah, I know his name has nothing to do with acoustics. But, the cabinets on the monitors aren't that acoustically active. They're designed not to color the sound and be more like they're acoustically dead. So, it's not obvious what gets transferred to the thing that the speaker is on.
Ester Samuels I found a big difference taking my monitors off my desk and putting them on isoacoustic stands and then on top of "proper" stands. If your desk vibrates it moves air, this is a problem
+Ester Samuels You have to compare two things: How much kinetic energy can my speakers develop and how "resistant" have the stands to be in that individual case. That means that a large speaker with massive low freq capability - no matter how solid its case may be - would need a far more heavy and solid stand than a small speaker. Ideally speaking, the stands should be free of vibrations at all. Especially the stands MUST NOT function as any kind of passive membrane! But that's not the whole story. The other fact is that, ideally speaking, the speaker ITSELF should vibrate *as less as possible*. And this can only be achieved with stands *as heavy as possible* - regardless of the chosen coupling respectively de-coupling method. There MIGHT(!!) be random(!!!!) combinations of acustical room conditions, listening position, resonating(!) stands (e.g. a desk) in conjunction with small speakers lacking bass or different, but very special freq area to be evaluated as some kind of "symbiotic" - But this is quite rare and cannot be compared to a perfect listening situation where the improvement of the room's reverberation time is more critical than the frequency response due to the overall sound quality of the speaker.
this is bs. These powered speakers cannot be plugged at home because they have only xlr inputs without volume control. Do like me buy way better edifier s2000pro that cost only 500$ a pair and play very good at home and in studio. They are so good that you can give them at chrismas to friends and they will be able to play right away without costly external amplifiers.
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What a total legend this man is! Really humble, would be an honour to meet him one day hopefully! He'd hate me within five minutes the number of questions I would fire his way. Sometimes I wish I was born in the states!
I still have my Reveals that I bought in 2003. I'll never replace them!
I love Tannoys, especially old ones.
I still have my 30 year old Mercury II as nearfields.
I couldn't hold on to my Lancasters (Gold 15s) when one particular studio closed.
But Oh! they were immense. Beautiful sounding speakers.
Left is the ear!! Thanks for sharing and those awesome tips Tany and Tannoy!!
I really adore the Tannoy System sound. At college they often use the System 800 and I really love it. Just a briliant clarity and rich low-end sound. Thanks for sharing, really helpful!
Those System 1200 are amazing
What amp would you power those with?
Those creative speakers.....
Tannoy Reveal 802 overhere, i'm a budget guy but i love them so much. When life hits you hard, you don't have the ability to treat the room on acoustics, but without it, they sound great. Once i will build a bigger studio, these tannoys will be staying for sure.
You still got them I was thinking about buying a pair it's for a room 20' by 14' solid wall can't go above £400 can't really see anything about this price register Yamaha but I'm not sure about them
Yay!! Tannoy :D ...LOVE the System 10 DMT II :)
+Sascha Nevian my tweeter just blew on my pair. im devastated :(
creepyguy
uhhh :( My heart pumps pity for you, mate...
Maybe the company Triplex from Germany can help you with this: www.triplex-service.de/index.php/en/
good luck!
+Sascha Nevian haha got the tweeter rewound and bought a pair of system 1000s this week. im in heaven.
creepyguy I'm curious... How big is the difference between the 10s and the 1000s?
very similar. A little bit tighter low end and the cabinet is better decoupled. badass speakers the both of them. Also the other set is being repaired as we speak. SO happy. My mixes shall be perfect now!!!!
Tony Maserati, a god among men and a foil for audio. Three different ProAc models user right here....
Great Video with a Master!!
Tannoys are not like normal speakers however.They very often do sound best with the tweeters crossing a bit in front of you or behind you.Indeed in some models [I have owned Glenair 10s] that is exactly what Tannoy tells you.
Most speakers image best with the tweeters and mids firing right at your head.
yo my studio sub say...low pass freq..what should i set it to? 50hz to 150hz
Nice studio.
Tannoy reveals (blue active models) are what NS-10’s wanted to be.
man wish I could find a pair of system 1200s in great shape somewhere to buy
What the names of this monitors
wow this is Awesome....a music guy myself butto meet this guy would be a dream ("
Nice monitors, Tannoy! But they're not for sale anymore...Tannoy only sells cheap monitors these days...
i wish i had kept my Tannoys.
Tony might be left ear dominate. My preference is to also mono on the left. Quick way to tell your dominate ear (Which ear do you use when you pick up the phone)
If you can, position your monitors at the top corners of the room suspended from the ceiling face down to your ears at the same angle Tony Maserati is leaning
These being the 1200's, --does anyone know the difference between the 1200's and the System DMT 12's. I'm guessing the 1200's are a later version/improvement of the DMT 12's?
Had both; DMTs are better ...they both have the same sound , but the Systems over emphasize the mid range, while the DMTs have a balanced profile re highs, mids, lows. In fact, my impression of this dude goes down a notch knowing that he settled for the Systems for mastering.
@@hardcorehouse maybe he is using some EQ
To have to use eq right out the box isnt a positive
make them heavy again ! =D
Couldn't you simply rotate the speakers in and lower the sound a bit so that they reach your ears while you're closer to your desk?
As he explained, he's been used to audio engineer with the tweeters hitting behind his head. This is why he continued to do so. It's a habit, how he works the best because it's what he's used to, which is why he says that the sweet spot for speaker placement is what you get used to.
Should you even put your sub on speaker stands like he does??
These are Tannoy System 1200 speakers - no subs! They have our Dual Concentric Drivers where the tweeter sits in the middle of the woofer. Check out the Tannoy Gold 5, 7 or 8 for the same type of driver:
www.tannoy.com/product.html?modelCode=P0C2B
Holy shit my uni teaches on the same digital board!
Guys desk is bigger than my room that i mix in.
the gylfoil of audio
would you please send a pair Tannoy free for for the love of making music. I can't afford it :( please Tannoy
No. We've all had to work hard to get our studio gear and you're no different.
NICE ProAcs.... ;)
Kazu Susumna never heard the pro acs in person yet
please next speaker without so much noise!
There is no noise
Tannoys sound a bit weird, but detailed
Tony’s got his physics wrong at the end there. The more dense the stand is, the better it will transfer energy to the room. We don’t want energy transferred to the room, so we want the least dense stands available. Definitely not solid steel or whatever his are made of.
Well...yes and no. If the speaker stands are denser, they will have a lower resonant frequency, meaning less chance they will vibrate or be excited by the speakers, and if they are denser via being filled with sand, there's less chance of sound transmission. Obviously there's a bit of a bell curve to this distribution, as for example, a piece of paper doesn't resonate much at all, but neither does a big concrete block. But in between those extremes, e.g., a thicker/denser drumhead has less sustain and resonance than a thinner drumhead. It also has a lower resonant frequency. A lot of this has to do with the dampening going on in the soundanchor stands, which are very, very dense and do. not. resonate. I know, because I have owned two sets. They are very good stands.
Wrong wrong wrong...you're wrong. Mass period, the end.
What's funny is that his speakers are directly above the angled racks of hard, reflective outboard gear. Talk about a comb filtering nightmare! Yikes!
Some of that stuff about speakers being on stands or being filled with shot or sand may be BS. It might not make an audible difference.
it makes a world of difference, it has nothing to do with his name, if you don't do that, you are in essence making that whole desk a speaker too, decoupling if done correctly, as he said, you will only hear your monitor and not what it is sitting on. people thing just putting their monitors on a table is correct, no it's not. listen to his advice, and you will fair well in your music ventures.
DHumphrey_AMP Yeah, I know his name has nothing to do with acoustics. But, the cabinets on the monitors aren't that acoustically active. They're designed not to color the sound and be more like they're acoustically dead. So, it's not obvious what gets transferred to the thing that the speaker is on.
Ester Samuels I found a big difference taking my monitors off my desk and putting them on isoacoustic stands and then on top of "proper" stands.
If your desk vibrates it moves air, this is a problem
+Ester Samuels Audible difference can be a big deal. It is subjective.
+Ester Samuels
You have to compare two things:
How much kinetic energy can my speakers develop and how "resistant" have the stands to be in that individual case. That means that a large speaker with massive low freq capability - no matter how solid its case may be - would need a far more heavy and solid stand than a small speaker.
Ideally speaking, the stands should be free of vibrations at all. Especially the stands MUST NOT function as any kind of passive membrane!
But that's not the whole story. The other fact is that, ideally speaking, the speaker ITSELF should vibrate *as less as possible*. And this can only be achieved with stands *as heavy as possible* - regardless of the chosen coupling respectively de-coupling method.
There MIGHT(!!) be random(!!!!) combinations of acustical room conditions, listening position, resonating(!) stands (e.g. a desk) in conjunction with small speakers lacking bass or different, but very
special freq area to be evaluated as some kind of "symbiotic" - But this is quite rare and cannot be compared to a perfect listening situation where the improvement of the room's reverberation time is more critical than the frequency response due to the overall sound quality of the speaker.
Only thing is Tony, Spikes couple not de-couple love.
this is bs. These powered speakers cannot be plugged at home because they have only xlr inputs without volume control. Do like me buy way better edifier s2000pro that cost only 500$ a pair and play very good at home and in studio. They are so good that you can give them at chrismas to friends and they will be able to play right away without costly external amplifiers.
these are not powered speakers. they do not have xlr inputs