This week I found out that my uncle was diagnosed with cancer and Thursday I saw Love and Thunder. When they had that scene hit me hard that I cried. Today he went into surgery to remove his prostate and happy to say that it went awesome!
True. Since i watched this video i was thinking it's taika's daughter and then later found out its chris' daughter. I came back to this video to double check if i heard it wrong or if he said it wrong.
You are exactly right, it's a family movie! I went with my nephew & son & we had a blast! My son grabbed my hand & shook it so hard during the scene where the kids got Thor power! He felt so empowered and jazzed by that scene! What a moment! Love you guys, you totally get it
I'm so glad to see you and your son had a good time! And listen, when I saw that scene I was HYPED. I swear I felt like a little kid again. Some people don't seem to understand that these movies are made for families. So of course they're not going to be dark and serious all the time. And frankly its hilarious watching all the comic book bros whine about children just having a good time; like I assure you no one cares this much as you do lol. We're just here to have fun, and if you can't get past that then it's your loss 🤷🏽♀️
One of the things I appreciated the most about this film is that we got such a great send-off for Jane. If this is the last time we see her character, it is so much more of a satisfying ending compared to just being put on a bus after the second Thor movie. And Natalie Portman absolutely killed it.
How is this a great send-off for her character when she spent most times in the movie being a person who hasn't moved on from Thor? Sure, Thor also hasn't moved on from her, but he's a god. Jane is a human. Beside, Mjolnir only accelerated her decaying state of health. How is that a great send-off for her?
Would’ve liked to see just a little more emotion from Thor when she died because she truely is the the cherry on top of all the peoples He’s lost like he just got back with her just to lose her. It just could’ve been a better scene if we just saw thor just lose it and breakdown
@@DaudRotama because she and Thor are true loves. And Jane still decides to be Thor to help save the kids and help Odinson even after knowing it would probably kill her, which is heroic. So the movie was a wonderful showcase for the character.
Making Thor a dad that has finally come to terms with all the loss he's experienced was great. That's actually an interesting place for him moving forward. How do you make an all powerful god interesting? Break him by having him lose everyone he ever loved, teach him to move beyond his grief, and then give him more people to love and teach. The CGI helmets were really weird and the movie was super fast but overall I enjoyed it. I would've liked a few extra minutes with Gorr and Jane separetly near the beginning just to establish their arcs and make use of some great performers, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few good deleted scenes on the home release.
Hector I’m gonna pause this real quick, the first guardians doesn’t hold up!?? I watch that movie at least once a year and get the same feeling every time. Pure joy. I have it in my top 3 MCU films. Right behind IW and ahead of NWH. I love you though and respect your opinion just had to get this out because WHAT!
I’m with you. I couldn’t believe it when I heard Hector say that! I usually agree with everything he says. Guardians is a near perfect movie to me. Although, I have a huge soft spot for most things MCU/Marvel lol
It’s ok for Hector to think how he does. And I agree. Plus he was mentioning the humour, not the overall film. It’s a great film, but for my humour, I’ve preferred other Marvel movies. So here’s the lesson… it’s ok to think differently to others :)
Guardians was in a lot of ways a crowning moment for the MCU. A bunch of unknown heroes and they deliver an absolutely hilarious, heart warming masterpiece
@@interbriami correct, specifically the humor in the film doesn’t hold up as well as the humor in other MCU titles. I feel like the humor in the Ant-Man and Spider-Man movies hold up better overall, on repeat viewings.
Maybe we haven't see the implications yet? Loki is still out there on the MoM side of things. Skrulls. The Marvels. Shang Chi. Blonsky. She Hulk. Its like a story tsunami. You don't see how big the wave is gonna be till its there, but the pullback and set up gives you a clue. It seems like an awful lot of setup. They are winding up for a BIG bad.
@@wynnyx7071 thank you so much for this statement. Too many are just impatient with wanting to see the next big villain/event in this phase. Just enjoy the ride and it will come.
I appreciate you guys because you really know how to break down a movie perfectly for me and also if you have something that disconnects you from a scene or a plot you make it a point to say basically “this is my point of view but just because yours is different doesn’t make you wrong or any less of a fan than we are “ and I really love that
That is definitely the route I hope Marvel chooses to take when handling Thor’s death. That is, that he dies in battle, perhaps to save his daughter, and that he is reunited with his loved ones in Valhalla, and with Jane last. Their on-screen romance is my favorite one in the MCU, and I agree that it would likely be one of the most impactful scenes of the franchise.
I'll just say that I enjoyed this one immensely - it was just what I needed when I needed it. Also, my son absolutely adored this film...I watched him have a ball watching this in the theater today, and that's the only critique I really need. Another solid addition to the MCU. That said, I did feel that much of the GotG's scenes felt a little awkward, but really that's a nitpick and not much of a harsh comment on the film as a whole.
I was disappointed. It didn't have much "meat" to it. I didn't feel very emotionally connected to any of the characters, even Gorr. I wanted more time with the characters. It had fun scenes. Hemsworth and Bale give good performances but it felt like Cliff's Notes of a better, more interesting film.
Original cut was 4 hrs, lmao what were they thinking with the assumption we couldn't handle that as audiences who constantly rewatch IW and Endgame to this day.
Id say 7/10. Would’ve been better served without so much comedy, some of the characters decisions seemed too rushed, there was an inconsistent tone, and Gorr could’ve been done better and had more scenes. I’d put it below Ragnarok but well above the first 2.
The only thing I wanted was the Jane to Thor transition on screen and a few minutes of her adapting to her new persona. Also, the fact that Thor doesn't immediately ask how that happened to her was a missed opportunity. Cheers.
Man I don't know why ppl were shitting on this movie and hating, man I really loved this movie, I like Jane and Thor's relationship and a nice send off for Jane, gorrs motives worked for and I almost cried with gorrs death and his daughter coming back Im excited for Thor's future
How can you not know when everyone is saying the same thing? THERE IS TOO MUCH COMEDY. Everything, including Thor himself, is played for a joke. The few dramatic moments don't hit as hard because the movie doesn't take anything seriously.
The only thing I wish for is the 3-4 hour version of that movie! Hemsworth and Waititi are talking about how insane and amazing it was and I really hope they will put that version on Disney+
I feel like they cut out the part where Jane becomes Thor, because it was leaked online and because her reveal being during the fight and not before makes it look cooler. But I definitely would’ve loved a moment of her becoming Mighty Thor and Valkyrie finding her or something.
I am really hoping for an introduction of Dani Moonstar as a Valkyrie and possibly a love interest for King Valkyrie. I would also want to see Jane come back as a Valkyrie in the future.
Hi guys. I went to see this movie on Thursday night at a 10:25 pm, after a long day of anxiety and depression (HUGE MID-LIFE CRISIS). I didn't even want to watch the movie, because I was in such a bad mood. But boy am I glad I went. It got me out of the funk I was in all this week (let alone that day). Tika and Chris are some of my Hollywood favorites. I am happy to hear that 'all three of you' together, had many of the same feelings about the movie as I did. I loved it!
I didn't mind Thor wanting love, in fact that was a great arc for him. I just wish he took Gorr and the kids being taken more serious ... I'll say about half the jokes didn't work for me
It's funny, as I listen to you guys talk I keep feeling that so many of these Marvel stories are better suited for the multiple hour, well produced, series. Flushing out the emotions of the story in general is so welcomed at least to me now. It could be that I've be spoiled by how good the Disney+ shows have been as well as how much Marvel has led me to invest into their universe.
Love you guy's commentary on these films, even if you have issues with the movie you can see what makes it a good movie regardless and try to bring those elements to the forefront. I loved this movie, I felt like the emotion was on point in the second half. The only issues I even had with the movie was some plot holes with how transportation was dealt with but that's nitpicking pretty hard.
It feels like Phase 4 is down to whether you like a certain director's style of not. The general audience really isn't checking for directors, just the MCU machine and I think that's why it feels like a mixed bag for some if not most.
Guys come on before mcu, people thought comic book movies are for kids but mcu changed that and now again we are making comic book movies for kids i mean come on
My only complaint of the movie is that I wish it was longer and for that time to be with Gorr. Christian Bale was just a bloody treat on screen, imho, he had THE creepiest scene with the kids. Shivers ran down my spine. I laughed, cringed (the play, it just made me shrink in my seat in cringe), I was freaked out (thank you Bale) and had fun. Oh, Russell Crowe’s little skirt fluff, posing and majorette twirls, had me in tears! Gorr, like Thanos, had a point. I wish that his POV was shown more due to that.
There were some moments where I felt they were trying too hard to recapture the quirky humor of Ragnarok, but like Agustin, I felt better about the movie by the end. Also, I loved that Ms. Marvel made it into the Marvel logo montage!
The third act is pretty solid, especially the scenes in the shadow realm, but most of those scenes feel (and are) unearned because the first two acts are so paper thin. We needed way more Jane catchup and a lot more Gorr. Most of the jokes, unlike Thor 3, did not land.
Taika has said there is a 4 hour cut which channels Monty Python. I felt there was a lot of things that could've been fleshed out more which I'm hoping a longer cut would show e.g. Janes transition to Mighty Thor etc. Still its a great movie! #2 for me in the Thor series (Ragnarok still #1 for now but more viewings may change that) As for Thor's end, it needs to pull some serious heartstrings like Wolverines death in Logan. When X23 turns the cross to an X still gets me every time. So to see Thor sacrifice it all and enter Valhalla with everyone waiting for him is what I want to see. Also +1000000 pts for the MCU picking up R** M*****F****** K*** as H*******!
there was a photo circling around with Natalie Portman in air near the Mjolnir altar thing. Its clear they actually shot that scene. Its a shame we didnt get to see it just for the reveal we already got in the trailers thousand times :/
JUST saw it myself. it was ok. didn't mind paying to see it but I wouldn't pay to see it again. have it ranked below NWH and MoM for me. the eternity universe building was the best part to me. just hard to stay IN IT when theirs a quip or joke needed every 30 sec ya know lol. Solid time tho. I'd give it a 6/10
What I love about Taika Waititi's style is that his apparent goal is to give you a feast for the eyes while exploring beautiful viewpoints on (found) family and love. His work is exciting to see and I can't wait to see more of it.
I finally got around to seeing the movie. Honestly, it was a little too jokesy for me (and this is coming from someone who LOVED Ragnarok). I loved Christian Bale's performance, but I really wish he presented more of an immediate threat. Hela crushed Mjioniir, killed several previously established side characters (including an entire army of Asgardians), and took Thor's eye. Gorr killed a bunch of unknown off-screen gods, and retreats from his first fight with Thor because he saw he was out-numbered. He was visually scary, sure, but there was no real feeling of danger to over-come. Even Korgs death ended up being a psych-out moment and a joke. As much as I (and probably most everyone) love Korg, that would have been a great way to establish the seriousness of Gorr on a very personal level.
I enjoyed Thor: Love and Thunder. I loved the '80's influenced in this movie. This movie gave me Conan the Barbarian(1982), Flash Gordon(1980), The Beastmaster(1982), Krull(1983), Heavy Metal(1981), Red Sonja(1985), Masters of the Universe(1987), and Willow(1988) vibes.
I think it was addressed somewhere that even though the species are all male one is always called mom in a relationship or whatever. I agree, it's confusing but it was addressed.
I really, really loved the movie and I don’t know why. The tone was all over the place. Light, dark, stupid, serious. I went in with not big expectations. My favorite part is when Stormbreaker is basically giving Thor side eye like “oh you talkin to HIM? Ok then…..” that was brilliant. I loved Thor’s story. Like even after Endgame he is still trying to figure himself out. Gorr was insane. Bale played that beautifully. When he creeps in on the kids telling stories I actually gasped. That was so well done. I haven’t read the comics, so Jane having cancer actually took me by surprise. I loved how they told her story here. I was bummed when she died but her being granted to enter Valhalla by Heimdall made me so happy. I’m so glad we got her character back. This movie just felt different and I loved everything about it. I really wanna watch it again!
Heroes Reforged doing a Ted Lasso reaction…I am here for it! Even if it’s a Patreon exclusive. My stomach would hurt from so much laughter! . . Just watched the movie and had a great time seeing it. Favorite scene would have to be with the kids getting to wield Thor’s power. And how they tied it with “November Rain” 😆🤘. Was hoping to see a Loki cameo but there’s always the next one.
Brett Goldstein is a brilliant get. Dude writes Ted Lasso, and wrote the character of Roy Kent, and it was his dad who told him that he had to play him. He's perfect.
I’m so happy that you guys are addressing the pissy online fanboys. I’m so damn tired of all these haters online bashing phase 4 and saying things like “it’s too woke”, “m-she-u” and more. Great reaction video guys. You’re some of my favorites to watch!
I feel the same way about this movie the way i felt about guardians 2.....it was an emotional spectacle and contained solo movie....I think Marvel is getting more hate than it deserves And I've moved over the fact why this or that didn't happen in Infinity war and endgame.....they can never expand on the Marvel lore that way
I'm already an uber sensitive person and dealing with my grandma's passing just one week ago so watching a lot of the emotional scenes really did hit home for me
This movie was a parody of Ragnarok. It didnt take itself serious. Gorr and Jane were only the characters I liked in this movie. Thor was a buffoon, Valkyrie looked uninterested, and Korg wouldn't shut up. The Goats were funny.
I love Ragnarok and I absolutely don't like this movie. The key word is balance. Ragnarok has that and this does not. Not to mention the razor thin, messy plot. Christian Bale was great like always but other than that, this movie left me cold. This is mid to bottom tier MCU
My theater was completely silent the entire film, none of the jokes really landed for me and I was a little disappointed in how much they changed the God Butcher story. I preferred the second half of the movie vs the first half. I loved Ragnarok, but I think the story and writing lacked a bit. Natalie Portmans performance was really touching, but I wish they would have fleshed out her battle with cancer a little more.
Surprised none of you mentioned Guns N Roses. So perfect for this movie. Definitely elevated it for me. Loved this movie. So rewatchable. Great job as always, guys!
I loved Rag but this movie went wayyy too far. The villian didnt fit at all, Zeus was stupid, mjlinor coming together was dumb. Literally nothing made sense in the movie. They threw 50 jokes at the board and hoped a few hit
This movie was a total let down for me. The comics this movie is based on is freakin awesome and with the budget they had I thought they would deliver some godly content but nope. What we got was a total parody. It looked and felt like something that shoulda aired on Comedy Central.
Wish we saw Gorr butcher more than 1 God. Woulda been cool to see Gorr go where Zeus was and started killing Gods to show how powerful he is and then show Thor and co. steal the thunderbolt and try to escape amid the chaos.
I was confused with this movie , I thought it was silly and crazy and couldn’t make sense of it but after watching this video I feel that now I just get it , I now understand it . A very funny and really emotional and touching story . Love the kids powered up and fighting and killing ….. hilarious!!!
What extra helped me was somone saying we had Korg narrate making this movie a story retelling, so all the silly stuff could be explained by Korg version of events
Very confused on why Thors eyes were both blue. When in endgame and infinity war one is brown did I miss something? Or was it just a continuity error ?
Slight correction: I believe that the young girl who plays gorr's daughter is actually Chris Hemsworth's daughter, India Rose! Which if you think about it, makes their interactions at the end of the film even more sweet. 🥲
At the end of the day the most important thing is if you're ultimately entertained. You can have a movie that hits all the beats but as a whole it leaves you empty. I'll take this movie anytime than a Man of Steel or The Batman.
Holy shit!! I LOVED that pitch for a future Thor “Endgame” with him meeting future-Thor and past-Thor. I really hope they make something like that, something emotional and epic for the character!
I think Taika doing something to specifically piss of haters instead of doing it for the overall benefit of a story shows that you pay WAAAY to much attention to what those ppl say in the 1st place…. At the end of the day: Fuck em!
Immaculate visuals, use of color, and breakout performances by Gorr and Jane. My major problem with the film was the ending didn't make sense. I won't completely spoil it for those that haven't seen it, but they fiercely fought to stop Gorr from getting to a certain place and then in the end just gave him a motivational speech and left the fate of countless beings up to his good judgment. What if Gorr said, "F*ck it" after the pep talk and completed his plan? Couldn't Thor have used that opportunity to get what he wanted? It was a rushed and contrived plot that ultimately left me confused and disappointed.
Brett Goldstein has a terrific podcast called "Films To Be Buried With" where he interviews people, tells them they've died, and asks them questions about their lives through/via the films they've watched.. Questions such as.... What was the first-ever film you saw? What was the film that scared you the most? What was the film that made you cry the most? What film is TERRIBLE but you love it? What is the film you once loved but watching it now you realise it's terrible? What is the film that means the most to you? ... What is the sexiest film? It's very good.
Returning villains are here - Zemo, Emil Blonsky (Abomination), Kingpin, Vulture, Taskmaster (technically previous owner is retired, but still alive, the suit itself can be taken by someone new), Shocker, Thadeuss Ross (actor passed away, but they can easily say, he had military son, who pursues his fathers work and becomes Red Hulk?), Ghost, Agent13 - Sharon Carter is now a villain as well. Also anti-heroes, like USAgent (potentially a villain, he is still conflicted, but does really bad things at times and makes horrible choices) are still around, with Yelena making occassional mess. We also can very easily bring back Ultron with his multiple appearances in other multiverse shows clearly indicating he is to be reminded (What If, Doctor Strange MoM, Spiderman Homecoming).
Taika's Thor is becoming more and more like Langridge and Samnee's Thor: The Mighty Avenger Hector, Tessa's accent is AWFUL. It sounds like someone pretending to be a cockney who is pretending to be posh. Its several layers of bizarre. Sincerely, a British person
I've been hearing the same thing from people watching it a second time. I had the same experience. I enjoyed the first time but the second time it was better. I dont know if it is the second viewing allows you to get more invested. The two montages, at the beginning explaining Thors sadness and at the end going thru Thor and Jane's breakup are beautiful and hit the feels even more since you know the outcome already.
Adam talking about the second he thought Thor was gonna walk out this film with a kid, I kept thinking the clue was there all along in the song pick Sweet Child Of Mine, It is a banger and would have fit anyway, but loving this foreshadowing in the music. Also, ROY KEEENT!
I only watched Creed for the first time a couple yrs ago. Since I'd never seen an interview with Tessa Thompson at that point, I thought, wow, she does a really good American accent! 🤣🤣🤣
@@HeroesReforged I LOVE THE HORROR DIRECTION FOR THIS 4TH PHASE!!!!!!!!! ETERNALS THIS ONE IS HORROR THRILLER ROMANCE DRAMA SUPERHERO SCIFI PERIOD PIECE AND DARK COMEDY!! THOR LAT 4 A DARK ROMANCE THRILLING DRAMA HORROR!!! SHENGCHI A ACTION FILM WITH SOME HORROR!!! BLACK WIDOW IS A THRILLING THRILLER ACTIONED DRAMA WITH HORROR VILLAIN AND VIBES!!! SPIDER-MAN MCU 3 A ACTION THRILLER RIDE DRAMA WITH HORROR SEQUENCES!!! AND DOCTOR STRANGE 2 MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS A HORROR ROMANCE FILM!! THESE ARE THE, AND MY, BEST FILMS OF THE MCU, NC!!
I appreciate your reviews and insight so much. I had a different experience. The second time I watched it, I enjoyed it less. I thought there were basically 2 movies fighting with each other - a tragedy and a comedy. And neither would let the other one breathe. It was very unsettling.
I finally watched it last night on Disney+ and while I enjoyed I couldn't help but feel it could have been split into two, one focusing specifically on Gorr and the other on Jane becoming Thor. That or add an extra 20 odd minutes to flesh out both a little. I just felt like it was rushing through proceedings a bit.
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This week I found out that my uncle was diagnosed with cancer and Thursday I saw Love and Thunder. When they had that scene hit me hard that I cried. Today he went into surgery to remove his prostate and happy to say that it went awesome!
sending healing and recovery-vibes!!! 💪
I hope everything works out
I think Gorr’s daughter was actually played by Chris Hemsworth’s daughter not Taika’s daughter. But Taika’s kids were among the Asgardian kids.
True. Since i watched this video i was thinking it's taika's daughter and then later found out its chris' daughter. I came back to this video to double check if i heard it wrong or if he said it wrong.
Correct. All 3 of hemsworths kids are in the film. The twins play young Thor
@@MidnightMarauder04 Not exactly. Tristian played Young Thor and Sasha played one Asgardian Child that u can see in the fight.
@@melodyprime3195 you’re correct
You are exactly right, it's a family movie! I went with my nephew & son & we had a blast! My son grabbed my hand & shook it so hard during the scene where the kids got Thor power! He felt so empowered and jazzed by that scene! What a moment!
Love you guys, you totally get it
I'm so glad to see you and your son had a good time! And listen, when I saw that scene I was HYPED. I swear I felt like a little kid again. Some people don't seem to understand that these movies are made for families. So of course they're not going to be dark and serious all the time. And frankly its hilarious watching all the comic book bros whine about children just having a good time; like I assure you no one cares this much as you do lol. We're just here to have fun, and if you can't get past that then it's your loss 🤷🏽♀️
So gods talking about orgies is family movie? 😂
They’re shrills man the movie sucked
Fun fact many of the main characters kids were in the movie and Love is actually Hemsworth real life daughter.
One of the things I appreciated the most about this film is that we got such a great send-off for Jane. If this is the last time we see her character, it is so much more of a satisfying ending compared to just being put on a bus after the second Thor movie. And Natalie Portman absolutely killed it.
Agree 100%
How is this a great send-off for her character when she spent most times in the movie being a person who hasn't moved on from Thor? Sure, Thor also hasn't moved on from her, but he's a god. Jane is a human. Beside, Mjolnir only accelerated her decaying state of health. How is that a great send-off for her?
Would’ve liked to see just a little more emotion from Thor when she died because she truely is the the cherry on top of all the peoples He’s lost like he just got back with her just to lose her. It just could’ve been a better scene if we just saw thor just lose it and breakdown
@@DaudRotama because she and Thor are true loves. And Jane still decides to be Thor to help save the kids and help Odinson even after knowing it would probably kill her, which is heroic. So the movie was a wonderful showcase for the character.
@@DaudRotama Because everything she did proved *why* she was worthy to the very end. Her core being was a good and worthy person.
Making Thor a dad that has finally come to terms with all the loss he's experienced was great. That's actually an interesting place for him moving forward.
How do you make an all powerful god interesting? Break him by having him lose everyone he ever loved, teach him to move beyond his grief, and then give him more people to love and teach.
The CGI helmets were really weird and the movie was super fast but overall I enjoyed it. I would've liked a few extra minutes with Gorr and Jane separetly near the beginning just to establish their arcs and make use of some great performers, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few good deleted scenes on the home release.
Hector I’m gonna pause this real quick, the first guardians doesn’t hold up!?? I watch that movie at least once a year and get the same feeling every time. Pure joy. I have it in my top 3 MCU films. Right behind IW and ahead of NWH. I love you though and respect your opinion just had to get this out because WHAT!
I’m with you. I couldn’t believe it when I heard Hector say that! I usually agree with everything he says. Guardians is a near perfect movie to me. Although, I have a huge soft spot for most things MCU/Marvel lol
Agreed!! To me, he felt pressured to say that
It’s ok for Hector to think how he does. And I agree. Plus he was mentioning the humour, not the overall film. It’s a great film, but for my humour, I’ve preferred other Marvel movies. So here’s the lesson… it’s ok to think differently to others :)
Guardians was in a lot of ways a crowning moment for the MCU. A bunch of unknown heroes and they deliver an absolutely hilarious, heart warming masterpiece
@@interbriami correct, specifically the humor in the film doesn’t hold up as well as the humor in other MCU titles. I feel like the humor in the Ant-Man and Spider-Man movies hold up better overall, on repeat viewings.
I think Gorr needed more screen time, and Valkyrie as well. Also wished this and MoM would've had more implications for the MCU.
Yeah, I wanted to see Gorr butchering gods like Wanda butchered the Illuminati and Kamar Taj.
Maybe we haven't see the implications yet? Loki is still out there on the MoM side of things. Skrulls. The Marvels. Shang Chi. Blonsky. She Hulk.
Its like a story tsunami. You don't see how big the wave is gonna be till its there, but the pullback and set up gives you a clue. It seems like an awful lot of setup. They are winding up for a BIG bad.
@@wynnyx7071 thank you so much for this statement. Too many are just impatient with wanting to see the next big villain/event in this phase. Just enjoy the ride and it will come.
@@ironpatriot-no6lt "Just enjoy the ride and it will come."
Perfect TL:dr to my paragraph.
I appreciate you guys because you really know how to break down a movie perfectly for me and also if you have something that disconnects you from a scene or a plot you make it a point to say basically “this is my point of view but just because yours is different doesn’t make you wrong or any less of a fan than we are “ and I really love that
these guys are Pros, and respectful, so true
The right way of critiquing, we are here for it.
That is definitely the route I hope Marvel chooses to take when handling Thor’s death. That is, that he dies in battle, perhaps to save his daughter, and that he is reunited with his loved ones in Valhalla, and with Jane last. Their on-screen romance is my favorite one in the MCU, and I agree that it would likely be one of the most impactful scenes of the franchise.
I'll just say that I enjoyed this one immensely - it was just what I needed when I needed it. Also, my son absolutely adored this film...I watched him have a ball watching this in the theater today, and that's the only critique I really need. Another solid addition to the MCU.
That said, I did feel that much of the GotG's scenes felt a little awkward, but really that's a nitpick and not much of a harsh comment on the film as a whole.
I was disappointed. It didn't have much "meat" to it. I didn't feel very emotionally connected to any of the characters, even Gorr. I wanted more time with the characters. It had fun scenes. Hemsworth and Bale give good performances but it felt like Cliff's Notes of a better, more interesting film.
Original cut was 4 hrs, lmao what were they thinking with the assumption we couldn't handle that as audiences who constantly rewatch IW and Endgame to this day.
@@murk4552 I think they want shorter movies so they can show more times a day and make more money.
Id say 7/10. Would’ve been better served without so much comedy, some of the characters decisions seemed too rushed, there was an inconsistent tone, and Gorr could’ve been done better and had more scenes. I’d put it below Ragnarok but well above the first 2.
Eternity looks amazing in IMAX 3D
Gorr’s daughter is played by Hemsworth’s daughter, not Taika’s.
The only thing I wanted was the Jane to Thor transition on screen and a few minutes of her adapting to her new persona. Also, the fact that Thor doesn't immediately ask how that happened to her was a missed opportunity. Cheers.
Man I don't know why ppl were shitting on this movie and hating, man I really loved this movie, I like Jane and Thor's relationship and a nice send off for Jane, gorrs motives worked for and I almost cried with gorrs death and his daughter coming back Im excited for Thor's future
How can you not know when everyone is saying the same thing? THERE IS TOO MUCH COMEDY. Everything, including Thor himself, is played for a joke. The few dramatic moments don't hit as hard because the movie doesn't take anything seriously.
@@nikkieg158 who everyone?
The only thing I wish for is the 3-4 hour version of that movie! Hemsworth and Waititi are talking about how insane and amazing it was and I really hope they will put that version on Disney+
Gorr’s daughter was actually played by Chris’s daughter not Taika’s, Hector 👍
I feel like they cut out the part where Jane becomes Thor, because it was leaked online and because her reveal being during the fight and not before makes it look cooler. But I definitely would’ve loved a moment of her becoming Mighty Thor and Valkyrie finding her or something.
I am really hoping for an introduction of Dani Moonstar as a Valkyrie and possibly a love interest for King Valkyrie. I would also want to see Jane come back as a Valkyrie in the future.
"vulnerability is a strong attribute"....thanks Adam..for saying that..
vulnerability _is_ one of the magic ingredients for connecting people!
Hi guys. I went to see this movie on Thursday night at a 10:25 pm, after a long day of anxiety and depression (HUGE MID-LIFE CRISIS). I didn't even want to watch the movie, because I was in such a bad mood. But boy am I glad I went. It got me out of the funk I was in all this week (let alone that day). Tika and Chris are some of my Hollywood favorites. I am happy to hear that 'all three of you' together, had many of the same feelings about the movie as I did. I loved it!
I didn't mind Thor wanting love, in fact that was a great arc for him. I just wish he took Gorr and the kids being taken more serious ... I'll say about half the jokes didn't work for me
18:04 I feel like 90% of mcu villains wouldn't exist if they just went to therapy 🤣
Learning that the kids of the filmmakers designed the monsters bolsters everything I’ve been feeling about this movie. Wonderful tidbit.
Quick correction! Gorr’s daughter is played by Hemsworth’s daughter!
It's funny, as I listen to you guys talk I keep feeling that so many of these Marvel stories are better suited for the multiple hour, well produced, series. Flushing out the emotions of the story in general is so welcomed at least to me now. It could be that I've be spoiled by how good the Disney+ shows have been as well as how much Marvel has led me to invest into their universe.
Great combination of heart and humor. Last 5 min of the movie were simply beautiful.
Love you guy's commentary on these films, even if you have issues with the movie you can see what makes it a good movie regardless and try to bring those elements to the forefront. I loved this movie, I felt like the emotion was on point in the second half. The only issues I even had with the movie was some plot holes with how transportation was dealt with but that's nitpicking pretty hard.
The way I see it (I’m only through the non spoiler part) if you put hector and Adams thoughts together they essentially equal Agustin’s haha
It feels like Phase 4 is down to whether you like a certain director's style of not. The general audience really isn't checking for directors, just the MCU machine and I think that's why it feels like a mixed bag for some if not most.
Actually Gorr's daughter is Chris Hemsworth's daughter, Hector.
Guys come on before mcu, people thought comic book movies are for kids but mcu changed that and now again we are making comic book movies for kids i mean come on
My only complaint of the movie is that I wish it was longer and for that time to be with Gorr. Christian Bale was just a bloody treat on screen, imho, he had THE creepiest scene with the kids. Shivers ran down my spine. I laughed, cringed (the play, it just made me shrink in my seat in cringe), I was freaked out (thank you Bale) and had fun. Oh, Russell Crowe’s little skirt fluff, posing and majorette twirls, had me in tears!
Gorr, like Thanos, had a point. I wish that his POV was shown more due to that.
There were some moments where I felt they were trying too hard to recapture the quirky humor of Ragnarok, but like Agustin, I felt better about the movie by the end. Also, I loved that Ms. Marvel made it into the Marvel logo montage!
I started clapping when I saw Ms. Marvel in the Marvel logo!
The third act is pretty solid, especially the scenes in the shadow realm, but most of those scenes feel (and are) unearned because the first two acts are so paper thin. We needed way more Jane catchup and a lot more Gorr. Most of the jokes, unlike Thor 3, did not land.
Congratulations 🎉🎊🍾🎈 to Thor 4! $150+ mill opening weekend!
Kamala Khan was in the Marvel Studios logo that came up at the top of this movie
I was so happy about that
4:17 I would disagree, Adam. Plenty of people liked _Thor: Ragnarok_ who did not like _Thor: Love and Thunder_ whatsoever
Ragnarok balanced the humor and serious moments way better than Love and Thunder did, imo
Gorr's daughter is actually played by Chris Hemsworth's daughter.
Taika has said there is a 4 hour cut which channels Monty Python. I felt there was a lot of things that could've been fleshed out more which I'm hoping a longer cut would show e.g. Janes transition to Mighty Thor etc. Still its a great movie! #2 for me in the Thor series (Ragnarok still #1 for now but more viewings may change that)
As for Thor's end, it needs to pull some serious heartstrings like Wolverines death in Logan. When X23 turns the cross to an X still gets me every time. So to see Thor sacrifice it all and enter Valhalla with everyone waiting for him is what I want to see.
Also +1000000 pts for the MCU picking up R** M*****F****** K*** as H*******!
#FACTS
Love the actor, love that character! Check out his YT videos from the early days of the pandemic, they're hilarious.
there was a photo circling around with Natalie Portman in air near the Mjolnir altar thing. Its clear they actually shot that scene. Its a shame we didnt get to see it just for the reveal we already got in the trailers thousand times :/
JUST saw it myself. it was ok. didn't mind paying to see it but I wouldn't pay to see it again. have it ranked below NWH and MoM for me. the eternity universe building was the best part to me. just hard to stay IN IT when theirs a quip or joke needed every 30 sec ya know lol. Solid time tho. I'd give it a 6/10
Why do people always have to rank things? 🙄
@@kimm6589 …cause people are allowed to have opinions?
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Quick Correction: Gor’s daughter is actually played by Chris Hemsworth’s real-life daughter India Rose Hemsworth.
What I love about Taika Waititi's style is that his apparent goal is to give you a feast for the eyes while exploring beautiful viewpoints on (found) family and love. His work is exciting to see and I can't wait to see more of it.
I finally got around to seeing the movie. Honestly, it was a little too jokesy for me (and this is coming from someone who LOVED Ragnarok).
I loved Christian Bale's performance, but I really wish he presented more of an immediate threat. Hela crushed Mjioniir, killed several previously established side characters (including an entire army of Asgardians), and took Thor's eye. Gorr killed a bunch of unknown off-screen gods, and retreats from his first fight with Thor because he saw he was out-numbered. He was visually scary, sure, but there was no real feeling of danger to over-come. Even Korgs death ended up being a psych-out moment and a joke. As much as I (and probably most everyone) love Korg, that would have been a great way to establish the seriousness of Gorr on a very personal level.
That’s Chris Hemsworths daughter that plays Gorr’s daughter
I enjoyed Thor: Love and Thunder. I loved the '80's influenced in this movie. This movie gave me Conan the Barbarian(1982), Flash Gordon(1980), The Beastmaster(1982), Krull(1983), Heavy Metal(1981), Red Sonja(1985), Masters of the Universe(1987), and Willow(1988) vibes.
Agreed, I got a very 80's vibe from this movie. Also Little Monsters (1989)
The problem with Korg is that he mentions his Mom and her boyfriend in Ragnarok .
I think it was addressed somewhere that even though the species are all male one is always called mom in a relationship or whatever. I agree, it's confusing but it was addressed.
I really, really loved the movie and I don’t know why. The tone was all over the place. Light, dark, stupid, serious. I went in with not big expectations.
My favorite part is when Stormbreaker is basically giving Thor side eye like “oh you talkin to HIM? Ok then…..” that was brilliant.
I loved Thor’s story. Like even after Endgame he is still trying to figure himself out. Gorr was insane. Bale played that beautifully. When he creeps in on the kids telling stories I actually gasped. That was so well done.
I haven’t read the comics, so Jane having cancer actually took me by surprise. I loved how they told her story here. I was bummed when she died but her being granted to enter Valhalla by Heimdall made me so happy. I’m so glad we got her character back.
This movie just felt different and I loved everything about it. I really wanna watch it again!
Heroes Reforged doing a Ted Lasso reaction…I am here for it! Even if it’s a Patreon exclusive. My stomach would hurt from so much laughter!
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Just watched the movie and had a great time seeing it. Favorite scene would have to be with the kids getting to wield Thor’s power. And how they tied it with “November Rain” 😆🤘. Was hoping to see a Loki cameo but there’s always the next one.
My only real criticism is I felt like the movie needed an extra 20 minutes to breathe.
Brett Goldstein is a brilliant get. Dude writes Ted Lasso, and wrote the character of Roy Kent, and it was his dad who told him that he had to play him. He's perfect.
After watching, L&T reminded me more of Jojo Rabbit than Ragnarok and that’s an enormous compliment. Bless Taika’s irreverence.
I’m so happy that you guys are addressing the pissy online fanboys. I’m so damn tired of all these haters online bashing phase 4 and saying things like “it’s too woke”, “m-she-u” and more. Great reaction video guys. You’re some of my favorites to watch!
I enjoyed this movie and the more I think about it the more I love it.
“Everything a six year old would want in a movie, they said yes to”, is everything that’s wrong with this film, imho.
I feel the same way about this movie the way i felt about guardians 2.....it was an emotional spectacle and contained solo movie....I think Marvel is getting more hate than it deserves
And I've moved over the fact why this or that didn't happen in Infinity war and endgame.....they can never expand on the Marvel lore that way
I'm already an uber sensitive person and dealing with my grandma's passing just one week ago so watching a lot of the emotional scenes really did hit home for me
Kinda but Maybe Not Spoiler Question - is Odin probably not in Valhalla since he didn't die in battle?
This movie was a parody of Ragnarok. It didnt take itself serious. Gorr and Jane were only the characters I liked in this movie. Thor was a buffoon, Valkyrie looked uninterested, and Korg wouldn't shut up. The Goats were funny.
I imagine Valhalla is accessible. The ancestral plain and the afterlife if Moon Knight was a two way journey.
I love Ragnarok and I absolutely don't like this movie. The key word is balance. Ragnarok has that and this does not. Not to mention the razor thin, messy plot. Christian Bale was great like always but other than that, this movie left me cold. This is mid to bottom tier MCU
My theater was completely silent the entire film, none of the jokes really landed for me and I was a little disappointed in how much they changed the God Butcher story. I preferred the second half of the movie vs the first half. I loved Ragnarok, but I think the story and writing lacked a bit. Natalie Portmans performance was really touching, but I wish they would have fleshed out her battle with cancer a little more.
Surprised none of you mentioned Guns N Roses. So perfect for this movie. Definitely elevated it for me. Loved this movie. So rewatchable. Great job as always, guys!
That is because Gorr was Time Traveling that's why he was battling 3 different versions of Thor.
24:31 There was a leaked scene with Natalie Portman that was not in the movie.
I loved Rag but this movie went wayyy too far. The villian didnt fit at all, Zeus was stupid, mjlinor coming together was dumb. Literally nothing made sense in the movie. They threw 50 jokes at the board and hoped a few hit
Wait KIDS designed the Black Berserkers? Those things were scary as hell. Kids are amazing
I CAME UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THOSE WHEN I WAS 4!!! AND I STILL HAVE THOSE PICTURE BOOKS!!
That’s Hemsworth daughter btw.
This movie was a total let down for me. The comics this movie is based on is freakin awesome and with the budget they had I thought they would deliver some godly content but nope. What we got was a total parody. It looked and felt like something that shoulda aired on Comedy Central.
When Gorr had everyone tied up in the shadow realm and he had his monologue going in between characters…. THAT was gold!!!
Attempted comedy too much. Most of the jokes fell flat. Our theatre was packed, but almost no out loud laughter. 6/10
Wish we saw Gorr butcher more than 1 God. Woulda been cool to see Gorr go where Zeus was and started killing Gods to show how powerful he is and then show Thor and co. steal the thunderbolt and try to escape amid the chaos.
I was confused with this movie , I thought it was silly and crazy and couldn’t make sense of it but after watching this video I feel that now I just get it , I now understand it . A very funny and really emotional and touching story . Love the kids powered up and fighting and killing ….. hilarious!!!
What extra helped me was somone saying we had Korg narrate making this movie a story retelling, so all the silly stuff could be explained by Korg version of events
Agustin's experience was mine too!! First half seemed weird but they won me over about halfway thru.
Very confused on why Thors eyes were both blue. When in endgame and infinity war one is brown did I miss something? Or was it just a continuity error ?
He probably got a blue prosthetic eye
Slight correction: I believe that the young girl who plays gorr's daughter is actually Chris Hemsworth's daughter, India Rose! Which if you think about it, makes their interactions at the end of the film even more sweet. 🥲
At the end of the day the most important thing is if you're ultimately entertained. You can have a movie that hits all the beats but as a whole it leaves you empty. I'll take this movie anytime than a Man of Steel or The Batman.
Holy shit!! I LOVED that pitch for a future Thor “Endgame” with him meeting future-Thor and past-Thor. I really hope they make something like that, something emotional and epic for the character!
I think Taika doing something to specifically piss of haters instead of doing it for the overall benefit of a story shows that you pay WAAAY to much attention to what those ppl say in the 1st place….
At the end of the day: Fuck em!
the goats were hilarious 🤣 when they crash into the shadow planet I lost it lmao
Immaculate visuals, use of color, and breakout performances by Gorr and Jane. My major problem with the film was the ending didn't make sense. I won't completely spoil it for those that haven't seen it, but they fiercely fought to stop Gorr from getting to a certain place and then in the end just gave him a motivational speech and left the fate of countless beings up to his good judgment. What if Gorr said, "F*ck it" after the pep talk and completed his plan? Couldn't Thor have used that opportunity to get what he wanted? It was a rushed and contrived plot that ultimately left me confused and disappointed.
Brett Goldstein has a terrific podcast called "Films To Be Buried With" where he interviews people, tells them they've died, and asks them questions about their lives through/via the films they've watched..
Questions such as....
What was the first-ever film you saw?
What was the film that scared you the most?
What was the film that made you cry the most?
What film is TERRIBLE but you love it?
What is the film you once loved but watching it now you realise it's terrible?
What is the film that means the most to you? ...
What is the sexiest film?
It's very good.
Returning villains are here - Zemo, Emil Blonsky (Abomination), Kingpin, Vulture, Taskmaster (technically previous owner is retired, but still alive, the suit itself can be taken by someone new), Shocker, Thadeuss Ross (actor passed away, but they can easily say, he had military son, who pursues his fathers work and becomes Red Hulk?), Ghost, Agent13 - Sharon Carter is now a villain as well. Also anti-heroes, like USAgent (potentially a villain, he is still conflicted, but does really bad things at times and makes horrible choices) are still around, with Yelena making occassional mess. We also can very easily bring back Ultron with his multiple appearances in other multiverse shows clearly indicating he is to be reminded (What If, Doctor Strange MoM, Spiderman Homecoming).
Smfh every emotional part was ruined by a stupid joke. Thor was a bubbling idiot in this movie.
i watched it in Imax 3d . Was a fun ride.
The humor landed all wrong for me. It was all over the place.
This movie could have been so much better. It breaks Infinity War in more ways I can count.
Taika's Thor is becoming more and more like Langridge and Samnee's Thor: The Mighty Avenger
Hector, Tessa's accent is AWFUL. It sounds like someone pretending to be a cockney who is pretending to be posh. Its several layers of bizarre. Sincerely, a British person
As an American, her accent was also taking me out of the movie every time she spoke.
I've been hearing the same thing from people watching it a second time. I had the same experience. I enjoyed the first time but the second time it was better. I dont know if it is the second viewing allows you to get more invested. The two montages, at the beginning explaining Thors sadness and at the end going thru Thor and Jane's breakup are beautiful and hit the feels even more since you know the outcome already.
not to spoil anything but russell crowe did something so shallow and silly going down the stairs and i was laughing soooooo hard.
Marvel/ disney will ALWAYS be family oriented and these hard-core comic geeks got to get over it, I loved the movie
Adam talking about the second he thought Thor was gonna walk out this film with a kid, I kept thinking the clue was there all along in the song pick Sweet Child Of Mine, It is a banger and would have fit anyway, but loving this foreshadowing in the music. Also, ROY KEEENT!
I only watched Creed for the first time a couple yrs ago. Since I'd never seen an interview with Tessa Thompson at that point, I thought, wow, she does a really good American accent! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm so happy this was such a great movie and couldn't believe what they did with it. I'm excited to see what they do with it Thor next!
you guys really be reforging my opinions lol. Been waiting for this all day!
Gonna share this one 😂
Haha love you guys
@@HeroesReforged I LOVE THE HORROR DIRECTION FOR THIS 4TH PHASE!!!!!!!!! ETERNALS THIS ONE IS HORROR THRILLER ROMANCE DRAMA SUPERHERO SCIFI PERIOD PIECE AND DARK COMEDY!! THOR LAT 4 A DARK ROMANCE THRILLING DRAMA HORROR!!! SHENGCHI A ACTION FILM WITH SOME HORROR!!! BLACK WIDOW IS A THRILLING THRILLER ACTIONED DRAMA WITH HORROR VILLAIN AND VIBES!!! SPIDER-MAN MCU 3 A ACTION THRILLER RIDE DRAMA WITH HORROR SEQUENCES!!! AND DOCTOR STRANGE 2 MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS A HORROR ROMANCE FILM!! THESE ARE THE, AND MY, BEST FILMS OF THE MCU, NC!!
I literally did this🤘when the movie title was revealed at the end cus it rocked
I appreciate your reviews and insight so much. I had a different experience. The second time I watched it, I enjoyed it less. I thought there were basically 2 movies fighting with each other - a tragedy and a comedy. And neither would let the other one breathe. It was very unsettling.
I finally watched it last night on Disney+ and while I enjoyed I couldn't help but feel it could have been split into two, one focusing specifically on Gorr and the other on Jane becoming Thor. That or add an extra 20 odd minutes to flesh out both a little. I just felt like it was rushing through proceedings a bit.