Nice work, I wish I had the equipment you have set up , it would speed up my build time ! But there's nothing like the feeling of accomplishment of a personal build! Nice work!
And music. I recently bought a pair of M2s and I love to show this video to people when I demo the speakers for them. I've been listening to this track since it first came out but these are the first speakers (headphones not included) where I've been abke to hear the guitar riff loop start out mono and spread wide from the beginning to the end of each loop. Amazing speakers. Great track. Phenomenal build.
Amazing work...... Hi there, would you be able to share the cabinet plans and STL file for the port? I am currently looking to build my clone. This would be most helpful.
I bought a trio of JBL M2s a year or so ago for my post production studio and they are without question the best monitors I have ever heard. Congrats and spectacular job! Just curious as to whether you have been able to do a side-by-side comparison with the OEM version. Also curious as to what you did in place of the OEM DSP crossover and speaker EQ/tuning/delay. I haven't got the chops or wood shop you have, but I would really like to try something similar for my home system. I am toying with just buying a pair and the amps, but I would love something that works as well (or almost as well) without needing the proprietary DSP/ specific amplification. The amps especially are more than I can imagine ever needing, and I have a pair of convection-cooled 500W monoblocks at home that I would love to repurpose. Congrats again, man. Those are awesome!
Thanks! Never get the chance to compare to the real one. So I cannot confirm if they sound the same... DSP, I am using a SHD from Minidsp and a LabGruppen (4 x 600w) for the amplification. Not sure it is really optimized as I have set my own filter. Using the filter parameters that you can found on the web, make the speakers sounding to bright in my room : is it coming because my room is not treated? Probably... Would love to hear them in a decent room...!!!
Just completing what I said... after two years, I finally order the part to build the passive filter for the compression... I am not sure why, but I finally discover what the M2 are... I reset my dsp with the mindsp eq and it is really impressive! So, it is essential, even for the ampli, to include in the build the passive crossover... the arch sound I was having as totally disappear! and my amplifier doesn't manage the compression the same way at all
Good morning congratulations for the really exemplary construction and the art of really splendid furniture, I ask a question but where is the horn of the Jbl? I don't even know the model, it's not found in any Jbl manual ti ringrazio in anticipo per la risposta Bravissimo
Bravo pour votre travail et votre présentation si sobre et modeste ...je suis en train d'en faire une paire aussi, surement de maniére moins compétente .je voulais juste avoir une confirmation pour le branchement des hp : le 2216 est bien directement branché sur l'ampli et le 2430 passe par le petit filtre passif ?en vous remerciant
Merci Gastonn. En effet, le branchement et bien comme vous le décrivez. Il est bien sur nécessaire d'avoir un filtre actif aussi. Tout le meilleur pour votre projet
HI Alex, you are right. Itech is too expensive.. I was using a real lab gruppen and try different filter bow (lake, SHD from minidsp). I just get a chance to find a Crown CDI yesterday. Not a huge night and day in my room but still an real imporvement on the bass kick and treble precision...
bravo cyril , très beau travail ! et très bel atelier ! gadzart ou menuisier ?? ton MDF est haute densité ? quelle est l'essence de ton placage, j'ai du mal à voir si c'est européen ou exotique ?? tres beau projet en tout cas . tu as conçu seul les cotes de ton impression 3D ou bien recupéré des cotes déjà existantes pour un event comparable ??cdlt
Merci. Ni Gadzart ni menuisier, juste passionné... : )) Le MDF n'est pas haute densité, normal mais de bonne qualité. Le placage est du Liquidambar. Les cotes de l'évent ont été faites à l'identique de l'évent des JBL M2. J'ai utilisé l'article scientifique de JBL qui m'a permis de définir les dimensions exactes en fonction de l'accord souhaité.
Bonjour, Je me suis lancé dans la construction de ces enceintes. J’ai tout sauf les évents. Après des semaines de recherches j’ai un paquet de pistes sans aucune réponse franche. Est-ce que, s’il vous plaît, vous pourriez me communiquer le fichier 3D des évents que vous avez fait ? Si ça vous dérange au moins des dimensions fiables ? Si vous êtes ok je vous laisse un mail par exemple ou tout autre moyen au vous arrange. Merci (plein d’espoir !)
Merci ! J’ai essayé de vous mettte un mail mais mon message ne semble pas passer. Je peux vous contacter sur le forum homecinema ? Vous êtes sur le point de sauver mon projet, de relancer ma motivation mise à mal par ces recherches déçues.
... ça se saurait si c'était si simple, le bois ne vient pas de chez Castorama et puis il y a plein de secrets professionnels dont les essences qui reçoivent un traitement ayant fait l'objet d'un brevet déposé et protégé. A contrario, combien d'audiophiles, mélomanes, musiciens ont démonté des enceintes JBL pour les intégrer dans leurs murs (épais)avec de solides structures en béton, ciment répondant à des régles physiques dont le calibrage de l'onde arrière. Ceci-dit, le résultat est magnifique.
Navré mais les M2 originales sont bien faite avec du bois medium (mdf). Aprés il est vrai qu'il y plusieurs qualités de MDF et Castorama ne propose pas le meilleur... Et le mdf pour ma part ne vient pas de casto... :))
Pour votre info : www.jblpro.com/www/products/recording-broadcast/m2/m2-master-reference-monitor#.WlVv5iN7R24 C'est écrit sur leur site web dans les specs dans le paragraphe M2 enclosure, 1' MDF...
Don't think you can buy these parts anymore. Some people bought awhile ago but I think JBL put lockdown on it saying you can only buy replacement parts if you purchased M2's legitimately. But def great skill! Also a JBL M2 is the COMPLETE package which includes running active off the complete JBL filter settings.
You can buy the drivers and some parts. I just got an offer from my local Harman distributor. The drivers are used in allot of other configuration so they can afford to limit you in the way you describe it. Most probably is impossible to find those bass ports. The waveguide is also available.
Hi Cyril Can you send me the STL files for the 3D printed ports. I left you a PM on the audioheritage website, with my email address, I guess you don't visit that website very often. Thanks
Technically, this is correct - however is would be a standard engineering exercise to reverse engineer the crossovers and equalization. I would use a nearfield technique on the woofer and any of the myriad of gated techniques to measure the horn. JBL publishes the crossover frequency and you can probably assume a 4th order L-R acoustic response at that frequency. There are published frequency response curves for the speaker (flat) so the target response is known.
@@AndrewUnruh You could always use a BSS London processor, Crown iTech 5000HD amps, or the JBL Intonato monitor controller to get not only the exact crossover frequencies and slopes, but specific EQs and delays for time alignment. I've heard a DIY MiniDSP crossover with M2s, and though it sounded good, it didn't have the same degree of openness achievable only with the proper delay offset between the drivers. It seems if you've gone to such lengths to clone the cabinets and drivers it would only make sense to finish the job. If the exact algorithms aren't publicly available it would definitely be worthwhile to buy the OEM DSP if you are trying to get as close as possible to the factory specs. FWIW I have a pair of M2s and use an Intonato for the DSP. At $3200 +/- it's not cheap, but it can do a whole to help integrate the speakers in to the existing room while still allowing you to choose whatever amps you prefer.
@@freethinksman4393 Sure. But what's the fun in that? Plus, I have an advantage. Three of them, in fact. I have access to three anechoic chambers each rated to 250 Hz.
I had to watch with the volume off cause I can’t stand that ghetto rap music. What audiophile would listen to that shit on hifi speakers? That’s like blasphemy.
absolutely worthless job. what the point? M2 specifically made for digital DSP correction ONLY, by initial design.. My chosen clip music can explain it.
worthless comment... The points are :First I like to do build things and those one were fun to build. 2. making them help to save some money .... 3. agree then in some way in your comment that using them without dsp will give an horrible sound.... BUT FYI I am using them with dsp... Multiple solution exits for that (buy the crown itech, crown dci, bss, minidsp or try to replicate the filter in others dsp but it is quiet complex to get the same as the original one...
Are you dumb or what Building your own M2 at a quarter the price with authentic components and choice of finish ? Genius - Calibration of the slopes and crossover points is something that's room dependent anyway .... This why thier active in the first place Flexibility in tuning , the end game strategy of cost no object systems Plus fun and tailored to your personal preference Every engineer would opt for active is cost was no object , Dont believe it ? Why is Synthesis JBL theatre gear designed from the start to be active?
Nice work, I wish I had the equipment you have set up , it would speed up my build time ! But there's nothing like the feeling of accomplishment of a personal build! Nice work!
This is incredible man, your truly a artist congrats 🎉
Great taste in speakers and tools!!!
And music. I recently bought a pair of M2s and I love to show this video to people when I demo the speakers for them. I've been listening to this track since it first came out but these are the first speakers (headphones not included) where I've been abke to hear the guitar riff loop start out mono and spread wide from the beginning to the end of each loop. Amazing speakers. Great track. Phenomenal build.
Two questions. Did you get a chance to compare the sound with the official model? Also, any chance you have the designs available to share?
Hi Cyril
Do you have the CNC plans for the curved part of the front baffle
Hi Cryil, would you be able to share the cabinet plans?
Hi Cyril very nice build. I'm going to build my own m2 clone. Can I have the files for the 3d printed port and the front baffel for the woofer?
Amazing work...... Hi there, would you be able to share the cabinet plans and STL file for the port? I am currently looking to build my clone. This would be most helpful.
非常棒！你能录制作品的播放效果吗？
That came out perfect!
it's better than a $21K price tag . Nice work
may i ask,how do diy this crossover? i'm making my m2 center speaker.
I bought a trio of JBL M2s a year or so ago for my post production studio and they are without question the best monitors I have ever heard. Congrats and spectacular job! Just curious as to whether you have been able to do a side-by-side comparison with the OEM version. Also curious as to what you did in place of the OEM DSP crossover and speaker EQ/tuning/delay. I haven't got the chops or wood shop you have, but I would really like to try something similar for my home system. I am toying with just buying a pair and the amps, but I would love something that works as well (or almost as well) without needing the proprietary DSP/ specific amplification. The amps especially are more than I can imagine ever needing, and I have a pair of convection-cooled 500W monoblocks at home that I would love to repurpose. Congrats again, man. Those are awesome!
Thanks! Never get the chance to compare to the real one. So I cannot confirm if they sound the same... DSP, I am using a SHD from Minidsp and a LabGruppen (4 x 600w) for the amplification. Not sure it is really optimized as I have set my own filter. Using the filter parameters that you can found on the web, make the speakers sounding to bright in my room : is it coming because my room is not treated? Probably... Would love to hear them in a decent room...!!!
Just completing what I said... after two years, I finally order the part to build the passive filter for the compression... I am not sure why, but I finally discover what the M2 are... I reset my dsp with the mindsp eq and it is really impressive! So, it is essential, even for the ampli, to include in the build the passive crossover... the arch sound I was having as totally disappear! and my amplifier doesn't manage the compression the same way at all
@@cyrildubuc1996 Скажите пожалуйста, где вы взяли оригинальные динамические головки для M2?
Good morning congratulations for the really exemplary construction and the art of really splendid furniture, I ask a question but where is the horn of the Jbl? I don't even know the model, it's not found in any Jbl manual ti ringrazio in anticipo per la risposta Bravissimo
Where you bought the drivers?
Can you provide plans. X over. And which JBL drivers???? Plastic horn?
This is amazing…
Can I get the plans?
I second this request
What drivers did you use?
This looks way better than the original!
where did you get the plans to do this?
Bravo pour votre travail et votre présentation si sobre et modeste ...je suis en train d'en faire une paire aussi, surement de maniére moins compétente .je voulais juste avoir une confirmation pour le branchement des hp : le 2216 est bien directement branché sur l'ampli et le 2430 passe par le petit filtre passif ?en vous remerciant
Merci Gastonn. En effet, le branchement et bien comme vous le décrivez. Il est bien sur nécessaire d'avoir un filtre actif aussi. Tout le meilleur pour votre projet
Hello, please tell me where you bought the driver
what components did you use? what was the total cost of the project minus your working hours? did you do a measurement test too?
Hi, would you share the plans with me, or could i perhaps buy them from you?
from where did you get the woofer/tweeter? and how much did they cost?
Speaker are from Speakerexhange. For price, I recommend you contact them directly.
Cyril Dubuc what the contact information???
Please don't use bad language on the world wide web. Thank you.
any documation draws etc?
What are you using for the passive crossover? Have you auditioned them with the DSP presets that JBL offers? If so what is the difference?
very impressive build. i am missing the Itech(s)with the appropiate Xover/lim and FIR!? looks like an FP10 clone?
HI Alex, you are right. Itech is too expensive..
I was using a real lab gruppen and try different filter bow (lake, SHD from minidsp). I just get a chance to find a Crown CDI yesterday. Not a huge night and day in my room but still an real imporvement on the bass kick and treble precision...
Perfect! Have fun. Would love to hear that!
Please contact me about amping. maybee i can help you.
Where to buy drivers?
IT'S AWESOME I also really intrest in diy JBL M2
but I couldn't find the information of port
where can i find?
JBL made an scientific article based on what you can calculate the curve of the port. The tunning Freq is at 27hz if I remember correctly
Do you sell ur builds if so what is your Price Beautiful build...
very very good job better than the original
Hi Cyril, Id like to purchase the STL for the port for my build. Is OK? Let me know. Top Job. I bet they sound Awesome.
Interesting build.
Wow!! Nice job!
Hello! Can you help me with plans from those speakers? (Dimensions and everything) Or where did you find them? Thank you ! Great job!
Hi, Thanks! If you search on internet (JBL M2 DIY, you will find all informations you need to build them
Hi man, where did you get the plans for the build? Thanks
Hi there, just pass a lot of time on internet through the different forum to get the dimensions. Then I build my own plan
Will you build the boxes for others?
Hello, I am sorry, no, I don't have the time to do it... :-))
nice. i want to make these badly
bravo cyril , très beau travail ! et très bel atelier ! gadzart ou menuisier ?? ton MDF est haute densité ? quelle est l'essence de ton placage, j'ai du mal à voir si c'est européen ou exotique ?? tres beau projet en tout cas . tu as conçu seul les cotes de ton impression 3D ou bien recupéré des cotes déjà existantes pour un event comparable ??cdlt
Merci. Ni Gadzart ni menuisier, juste passionné... : )) Le MDF n'est pas haute densité, normal mais de bonne qualité.
Le placage est du Liquidambar. Les cotes de l'évent ont été faites à l'identique de l'évent des JBL M2. J'ai utilisé l'article scientifique de JBL qui m'a permis de définir les dimensions exactes en fonction de l'accord souhaité.
Du travail de pro, avec des outils de pro ! Beau boulot (je sais de quoi je parle, j'ai fabriqué une paire de Hartsfield...)
Very impressive
Can you make some for me? Seriously!
FANTASTIQUE ! TRES TRES IMPRESSIONNANT !
Добрый день великолепная работа! А можно вам заказать корпуса для акустики?
Шикарно! Потрясающая работа!
Bonjour,
Je me suis lancé dans la construction de ces enceintes. J’ai tout sauf les évents. Après des semaines de recherches j’ai un paquet de pistes sans aucune réponse franche.
Est-ce que, s’il vous plaît, vous pourriez me communiquer le fichier 3D des évents que vous avez fait ? Si ça vous dérange au moins des dimensions fiables ?
Si vous êtes ok je vous laisse un mail par exemple ou tout autre moyen au vous arrange.
Merci (plein d’espoir !)
guitarfan03 oui donnez moi votre email
Merci !
J’ai essayé de vous mettte un mail mais mon message ne semble pas passer.
Je peux vous contacter sur le forum homecinema ?
Vous êtes sur le point de sauver mon projet, de relancer ma motivation mise à mal par ces recherches déçues.
Peut etre comme ça :
maudlaf arobase aol point com
dream come true.....
... ça se saurait si c'était si simple, le bois ne vient pas de chez Castorama et puis il y a plein de secrets professionnels dont les essences qui reçoivent un traitement ayant fait l'objet d'un brevet déposé et protégé. A contrario, combien d'audiophiles, mélomanes, musiciens ont démonté des enceintes JBL pour les intégrer dans leurs murs (épais)avec de solides structures en béton, ciment répondant à des régles physiques dont le calibrage de l'onde arrière. Ceci-dit, le résultat est magnifique.
Navré mais les M2 originales sont bien faite avec du bois medium (mdf). Aprés il est vrai qu'il y plusieurs qualités de MDF et Castorama ne propose pas le meilleur... Et le mdf pour ma part ne vient pas de casto... :))
Pour votre info : www.jblpro.com/www/products/recording-broadcast/m2/m2-master-reference-monitor#.WlVv5iN7R24
C'est écrit sur leur site web dans les specs dans le paragraphe M2 enclosure, 1' MDF...
Beau travail ! Pourrais-tu me dire dans quelle enseigne tu as trouvé le MDF ? Merci
Awesome !!!!
Bravissimo, ti invidio molto.
Wow!
EXCELENTE, UN MAESTRO
Holly Molly, skills!
Don't think you can buy these parts anymore. Some people bought awhile ago but I think JBL put lockdown on it saying you can only buy replacement parts if you purchased M2's legitimately. But def great skill! Also a JBL M2 is the COMPLETE package which includes running active off the complete JBL filter settings.
You can buy the drivers and some parts. I just got an offer from my local Harman distributor. The drivers are used in allot of other configuration so they can afford to limit you in the way you describe it. Most probably is impossible to find those bass ports. The waveguide is also available.
Hi Cyril Can you send me the STL files for the 3D printed ports. I left you a PM on the audioheritage website, with my email address, I guess you don't visit that website very often.
Thanks
HI, Done :-))
is this file still available?
Круто!!!!, из России с любовью))
Most probably looks like an M2 but sounds like a Bose.
If you are not running their tuning files this is a fairly pointless exercise and they won't sound right at all. Nicely done though.
Technically, this is correct - however is would be a standard engineering exercise to reverse engineer the crossovers and equalization. I would use a nearfield technique on the woofer and any of the myriad of gated techniques to measure the horn. JBL publishes the crossover frequency and you can probably assume a 4th order L-R acoustic response at that frequency. There are published frequency response curves for the speaker (flat) so the target response is known.
@@AndrewUnruh You could always use a BSS London processor, Crown iTech 5000HD amps, or the JBL Intonato monitor controller to get not only the exact crossover frequencies and slopes, but specific EQs and delays for time alignment. I've heard a DIY MiniDSP crossover with M2s, and though it sounded good, it didn't have the same degree of openness achievable only with the proper delay offset between the drivers. It seems if you've gone to such lengths to clone the cabinets and drivers it would only make sense to finish the job. If the exact algorithms aren't publicly available it would definitely be worthwhile to buy the OEM DSP if you are trying to get as close as possible to the factory specs.
FWIW I have a pair of M2s and use an Intonato for the DSP. At $3200 +/- it's not cheap, but it can do a whole to help integrate the speakers in to the existing room while still allowing you to choose whatever amps you prefer.
@@freethinksman4393 Sure. But what's the fun in that? Plus, I have an advantage. Three of them, in fact. I have access to three anechoic chambers each rated to 250 Hz.
ОХУЕННО!
Super mais j'ai dû couper la musique, Eminem c'est insupportable !
Good job & crappy music
I had to watch with the volume off cause I can’t stand that ghetto rap music. What audiophile would listen to that shit on hifi speakers? That’s like blasphemy.
Get over yourself
absolutely worthless job. what the point? M2 specifically made for digital DSP correction ONLY, by initial design.. My chosen clip music can explain it.
worthless comment... The points are :First I like to do build things and those one were fun to build. 2. making them help to save some money .... 3. agree then in some way in your comment that using them without dsp will give an horrible sound.... BUT FYI I am using them with dsp... Multiple solution exits for that (buy the crown itech, crown dci, bss, minidsp or try to replicate the filter in others dsp but it is quiet complex to get the same as the original one...
Are you dumb or what
Building your own M2 at a quarter the price with authentic components and choice of finish ?
Genius -
Calibration of the slopes and crossover points is something that's room dependent anyway ....
This why thier active in the first place
Flexibility in tuning , the end game strategy of cost no object systems
Plus fun and tailored to your personal preference
Every engineer would opt for active is cost was no object ,
Dont believe it ?
Why is Synthesis JBL theatre gear designed from the start to be active?