I bought a book years ago called ‘What NOT To Build’ Do’s and Don’ts of Exterior Home Design. Only then did I understand why I loved the look of some homes, while others “Just didn’t look right.” Proportion, scale, and placement are the difference. My question is how can you be sure your builder or designer knows these rules and plays by them?
That is a great question. I think everyone who is interested in traditional and classical design should find a designer who is like-minded. Whether that is a direction question in an interview or if you can see it in their work. Please realize that most architects and designers and NOT taught these ideas in school today. You can also try the website classicist.org. The members on that site will care about these ideas. Good luck!
Aerospace engineering is cool and all but hearing Brent talk makes me feel like I missed a calling. There is so much more life and passion in these bits of wood than any piece of steel I've designed.
Seeing that sample you made, it is obvious you have very wealthy clients. It would be helpful to know what to do in a standard room with an 8-foot ceiling. I'd like to elevate the aesthetics a bit but don't want it to look ridiculous. I'll also be buying crown molding and baseboards right off the shelf at the hardware store, none of this 3-different-parts stuff. I have no idea where to start.
What an amazing channel. Every video feels like a true masterclass, packed with timeless information. I've learned so much already! Thanks a million! I have a question though. I understand how the classical orders determine the *thickness* and *height* of the base plinth, chair rail, picture rail, architrave, and crown mould, depending on the height of your room. But does it also determine the *width* of the panels on the wall? Are the panel widths (just as their heights) related to the diameter of a classical column, or are they proportional to the classical spacing between columns? I've read it's oftentimes better to have three panels next to one another, rather than only two, with the left and right panel narrower than the middle panel. But I have no idea how *broad* all of these rectangles and squares should be. I would love to hear from you! Thanks so much in advance.
Thanks for the comments. Great question. Yes, panels too are part of the proportioning system. Yes, your talking about the rule of 3's. If you look for my video on Period Revival moldings I discuss panels and the rule of 3's. Thanks, and let me know what you think.
I’m having a hard time figuring out where to look on their website. What I would love is to purchase drawings like you hold in your videos with proper scale rules according to specific orders. Any chance you could link me to where people can find them?
I wonder how you would do an dainty 90 inch space with uneven heighth windows justice. Sure it was a 70's ranch style house but it deserves better in my opinion so we gutted it. So far I've opted for solid core Tudor style molded interior doors, 3.5" actual width mitered picture frame trim for windows with a pronounced sill and I'm considering a 7.25 width baseboard. I have yet to decide if I shall add a back bend to the window trim and door casing. I currently have the 3 top window trim pieces edged on both sides with a roman ogee. If I add the back bend I'll have to trim off one side to get rid of the ogee. The work you did in the smaller home was beautiful.
Eye opening video! What dimensions did you use for the modillion blocks in this example? I can’t seem to find any info on how to proportion modillion blocks other than in the corinthian order in the American Vignola book.
We scale ours from historic homes and rooms. If you get my book Traditional American Rooms, it has scaled moldings that can help. I've added my kit link with other classical books in the description. Good luck.
It seems that your 11' physical model has 4 parts to the cornice, a bed mold, the modillion, the corona, and the cymation. Doesn't this change the proportions of the entablature from 3 parts to more?
I have a room that is very tall on one side and pretty normal on another, as its a full height interior under a shed roof, would you measure the column just at the short end, or perhaps lean into the height a bit?
Good question. When I did a room with a slanted ceiling, I choose the low wall and used that height to surround and ground the room. If your low wall is not to short, that is where I would start. Contemporary rooms are sometimes very hard to organize with classical ideas but it is worth the effort. Good luck. Let me know how it turns out.
Good question. I live in a 1962 version of that. These house of this period are hard to introduce classical ideas to because there is no ceiling height. I've settled on a good base and casing with a small crown. Punctuate openings and don't force it. Good luck.
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Cool! I'm so glad you like it. Spread the word! :) Thanks for asking about Vasyl. He's doing well, busy right now. I think he is ready for a Christmas break but travel is tough to the Ukraine now. Hopefully he'll get home for a visit early next year. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all of you faithful watchers, I greatly appreciate your feedback and comments. They make this channel worthwhile and rewarding for me. God bless.
Almost too much information to take in on one viewing. I need to review and review this in order to understand all of it. What a difference to so many videos on YT where the video is so long and yet tells you nothing
@@BrentHull I’ve watched it 3 times and am struggling a little to take all the information in (blame my age; not your video). Well, everything you need to know is in the video. I will sketch out the dimensions and then reference various features that I come across against “the rules”. It’s going to be very interesting to match the features (that seem to work to me) against “the rules”. I have so much admiration for the classical designers that I’m prepared to bet that their “rule” are obeyed in the features that work. I’m a dreadful butterfly when it comes to projects. Here I am, in the middle of making storage units for my new workshop (so that I can work in an organised manner) whilst having some Morris chairs half made - and I’m sat here on a Sunday evening researching the proportions of a four-centred arch and a pseudo four-centred arch and thinking how I can make the templates (at least 5) necessary to turn out perhaps 10 internal doors and their frames. However, come Monday morning, I aim to be back in the workshop and nose to the grindstone making vertical and horizontal drawers plus all the figments. May I take the opportunity to wish you, your family and your colleagues a very happy Christmas and a healthy New Year.
I bought a book years ago called ‘What NOT To Build’ Do’s and Don’ts of Exterior Home Design. Only then did I understand why I loved the look of some homes, while others “Just didn’t look right.” Proportion, scale, and placement are the difference. My question is how can you be sure your builder or designer knows these rules and plays by them?
That is a great question. I think everyone who is interested in traditional and classical design should find a designer who is like-minded. Whether that is a direction question in an interview or if you can see it in their work. Please realize that most architects and designers and NOT taught these ideas in school today. You can also try the website classicist.org. The members on that site will care about these ideas. Good luck!
Like attending a master class on moldings, terrific.
Every video is a damn masterclass. My favorite RUclips channel.
Cool. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Thanks so much! Spread the word. 😀
@@thetubekid Yep. My favorite channel too. Watch every single one and follow their Instagram too. 😆
that info about the purpose of each molding blew my mind
Nice. Thanks.
Aerospace engineering is cool and all but hearing Brent talk makes me feel like I missed a calling. There is so much more life and passion in these bits of wood than any piece of steel I've designed.
Thank you!
Amazing videos
Thanks so much!
Really good information, I am slowly getting it, Scale and Proportions!!
Excellent! Thanks for watching.
Seeing that sample you made, it is obvious you have very wealthy clients. It would be helpful to know what to do in a standard room with an 8-foot ceiling. I'd like to elevate the aesthetics a bit but don't want it to look ridiculous. I'll also be buying crown molding and baseboards right off the shelf at the hardware store, none of this 3-different-parts stuff. I have no idea where to start.
keep watching my molding videos. More good ideas.
I think movie day to watch these videos with contractors and crew to build some understanding and love for architecture. Great site ICAA.
Agreed. A lot of great teaching there. Thanks for watching.
What an amazing channel. Every video feels like a true masterclass, packed with timeless information. I've learned so much already! Thanks a million!
I have a question though. I understand how the classical orders determine the *thickness* and *height* of the base plinth, chair rail, picture rail, architrave, and crown mould, depending on the height of your room.
But does it also determine the *width* of the panels on the wall? Are the panel widths (just as their heights) related to the diameter of a classical column, or are they proportional to the classical spacing between columns?
I've read it's oftentimes better to have three panels next to one another, rather than only two, with the left and right panel narrower than the middle panel. But I have no idea how *broad* all of these rectangles and squares should be.
I would love to hear from you! Thanks so much in advance.
Thanks for the comments. Great question. Yes, panels too are part of the proportioning system. Yes, your talking about the rule of 3's. If you look for my video on Period Revival moldings I discuss panels and the rule of 3's. Thanks, and let me know what you think.
Once again thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Blessings
You are so welcome
Great stuff, thank you. Going to watch this video a few more times.
I’ve been looking at the ICAA page, excited to dig deeper.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
I’m having a hard time figuring out where to look on their website. What I would love is to purchase drawings like you hold in your videos with proper scale rules according to specific orders. Any chance you could link me to where people can find them?
Thanks again
Always welcome
I wonder how you would do an dainty 90 inch space with uneven heighth windows justice. Sure it was a 70's ranch style house but it deserves better in my opinion so we gutted it. So far I've opted for solid core Tudor style molded interior doors, 3.5" actual width mitered picture frame trim for windows with a pronounced sill and I'm considering a 7.25 width baseboard. I have yet to decide if I shall add a back bend to the window trim and door casing. I currently have the 3 top window trim pieces edged on both sides with a roman ogee. If I add the back bend I'll have to trim off one side to get rid of the ogee. The work you did in the smaller home was beautiful.
Thx!
Brent youre a god
Haha
Can you tell me the specific molding cap on the wainscot? Love it, thank you.
Use your window sill cap for one.
I would love to do this to my house. I’m guessing those entablature crowns get expensive, grouping those mouldings together.
More expensive because there is more of it. TONS better.
Eye opening video! What dimensions did you use for the modillion blocks in this example? I can’t seem to find any info on how to proportion modillion blocks other than in the corinthian order in the American Vignola book.
We scale ours from historic homes and rooms. If you get my book Traditional American Rooms, it has scaled moldings that can help. I've added my kit link with other classical books in the description. Good luck.
@@BrentHull Thanks for the response! Great video!
Do you have any info on a classical window cornice design? The box that you use to hid the rod. Thanks
Good question, you mean a valance, I think. No books I've found, but I'll look. Thanks for watching.
Can you post link to that image?
Working on it. THanks.
It seems that your 11' physical model has 4 parts to the cornice, a bed mold, the modillion, the corona, and the cymation. Doesn't this change the proportions of the entablature from 3 parts to more?
That's a good question. I think the entablature is still 3 parts, cornice, frieze, architrave, but it does make me rethink the cornice. Thx
I have a room that is very tall on one side and pretty normal on another, as its a full height interior under a shed roof, would you measure the column just at the short end, or perhaps lean into the height a bit?
Good question. When I did a room with a slanted ceiling, I choose the low wall and used that height to surround and ground the room. If your low wall is not to short, that is where I would start. Contemporary rooms are sometimes very hard to organize with classical ideas but it is worth the effort. Good luck. Let me know how it turns out.
So I’m wondering what would look good in my formal dining and living room with 8 foot ceilings. Beautiful brick house built in 1965.
Good question. I live in a 1962 version of that. These house of this period are hard to introduce classical ideas to because there is no ceiling height. I've settled on a good base and casing with a small crown. Punctuate openings and don't force it. Good luck.
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LOL, yes with Matt! He's awesome. We just shot a video in Baton Rouge. Look for those videos coming soon. Thx.
"Scale" ...very important
Word.
cornices diverted rainwater from buildings. Thanks for the video!
thanks for the feedback.
I AM always learning from your channel : ) .... I thank you so very much for all of your passion : ) .... Say, how is the company's new import carver doing ??? Please forgive me, I forget his name and were he's from... Well, as always stay safe and healthy - Peace on Earth FOREVER : o .... Happy Holidays and sending all those who are in your environment TONS of LOVE : o ....
Cool! I'm so glad you like it. Spread the word! :) Thanks for asking about Vasyl. He's doing well, busy right now. I think he is ready for a Christmas break but travel is tough to the Ukraine now. Hopefully he'll get home for a visit early next year. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all of you faithful watchers, I greatly appreciate your feedback and comments. They make this channel worthwhile and rewarding for me. God bless.
Almost too much information to take in on one viewing. I need to review and review this in order to understand all of it. What a difference to so many videos on YT where the video is so long and yet tells you nothing
Ok, well let me know what you think. Thanks for watching.
@@BrentHull I’ve watched it 3 times and am struggling a little to take all the information in (blame my age; not your video). Well, everything you need to know is in the video. I will sketch out the dimensions and then reference various features that I come across against “the rules”. It’s going to be very interesting to match the features (that seem to work to me) against “the rules”. I have so much admiration for the classical designers that I’m prepared to bet that their “rule” are obeyed in the features that work.
I’m a dreadful butterfly when it comes to projects. Here I am, in the middle of making storage units for my new workshop (so that I can work in an organised manner) whilst having some Morris chairs half made - and I’m sat here on a Sunday evening researching the proportions of a four-centred arch and a pseudo four-centred arch and thinking how I can make the templates (at least 5) necessary to turn out perhaps 10 internal doors and their frames. However, come Monday morning, I aim to be back in the workshop and nose to the grindstone making vertical and horizontal drawers plus all the figments.
May I take the opportunity to wish you, your family and your colleagues a very happy Christmas and a healthy New Year.