The quote, 'If there's a God he will have to beg for my forgiveness.' is possibly inspired by the Holocaust as that quote was originally carved on a wall of a concentration camp cell.
@@shosc16God is like a father who let’s his children learn the hard way, he makes it clear what the right path is, but if you don’t take it, then that’s your problem
This camp was close to DC. My thinking is the guy with the briefcase full of money might've been a politician who was taking shelter in the camp. Maybe the homeless ppl or other refugees realized who he was and took out their frustration on him (blaming politicians during the apocalypse makes sense tbh). As for the other bodies in bags, I think that could've been part of some sort of military operation to dispose of recently deceased who were believed to be infected. Hence the reason they were in body bags. As for their throats, the explanation could be that it was still early on in the outbreak so the troops didn't know you had to take out the dead person's brain. For them at that time, cutting the neck would've made sense as a means of incapacitation and it could be done quickly/efficiently
@Swell-Films I think the politician story would also make sense because of Fear twd. There may have been rumors that other politicians had safe bunkers or potential cures like in texas. They may have been breaking in to find him and then killed everyone else out of anger when discovering they were wrong. The bodies outside being an early day dumping ground that grew with the bodies from the raid
Yeah, my thought was it was so early on in the outbreak/apocalypse that it wasn't known that slitting throats would only just bring them back. It follows logic with the body bags, (which is a similar thing we see outside Ricks hospital down outside Atlanta - so we know the military used a similar gimmick elsewhere). I also think the 100$ bill was written on AFTER the rich guy had already been shot in the head by someone else at the camp, likely after they had gotten sick of his constant nonsense about how rich and powerful he was. (Like Strand said in Fear, the dynamics of who is in charge changed; being rich and wealthy in a regular society is great, but it doesn't help you in a zombie apocalypse). People (maybe one of the unhinged guys in the homeless camp) shot the douchey rich guy, popped open the case he was guarding with his life out of curiosity and realized it was useless money. (And then the two kids used it as a makeshift way to write that note). The graffiti is the interesting part of all this. It suggests different time lines with some stuff written over the original graffiti... who the original artist was, and who the secondary person was writing everything in the black paint ... we can only speculate on.
The body bags really confuse the situation . While yes it could be a Military cleanup but then I remembered that when Shane was in the hospital he saw soldiers executing civies which were then shot through the head by the squad leader. So I feel like it wasnt the army since they looked to be well informed that a bullet to the brain would stop the turning process. Imo it was a group of fucked up people who probably infiltrated the camp and slaughtered them in theyre sleep. Its hard to piece this one together .
Yeah not having people to manage drainage and no one maintaining the structural integrity of the tunnels is enough for me to say no to living in it though as a fan of the Metro 2033 game series a part of me still thinks maybe it could be a possible “safe place”. Controlling the stations and blocking the tunnels in certain places would be needed too
@@thelittlebosniaexperience8181 that was Dead Air or No Mercy, i know exactly what you are talking about just cant remember which of them it is, i just know you cut through the subway in it
Alot of these were turned into episode well webisode but they stopped doing that also kirkman was supposed to do a filler episode of the zombie in the tank back in season one
I got to play some zombie extras in this episode, the subway set was absolutely incredible and had a lot of cool details. It was so dark with our masks on that I asked Norman Reedus for the time thinking he was a P.A.
@@Swell-Films None that I can recall unfortunately since it was a few years ago. Coolest cut detail in general that I witnessed during my time on the show was for Beta's death scene, originally Beta was going to continue to blindly swing and attempt to fight Daryl and Negan before pulling the knives out of his eyes and getting swarmed. I also remember my first night as a TV extra being the Hilltop battle where they used real pyrotechnics.
@@TD0150 Can't understand why that would be cut at all when what they went with was just a hands up "ok walkers eat me" nothingness. Then again I have learnt not to question the choices made in later twd for my own sanity lol
Crowns are also a symbol of royalty; aka, a luxury or sign of great wealth. It can symbolize that in this world, being kind and acting human is a luxury.
Well, yeah, they can take care of themselves. How does him being there, help them out of their current situation. And dog is important to him. He was there for him, at a low point
The set dressers who work on this subtle but important background storytelling derserve so much praise, it's always been a media job that's fascinated me.
One thing which doesn´t make sense for me is if this really happened at the begining of apocalypse, not many people would know how to use Walkers as a weapon. They probably didnt even know how to put them down, so they tried "dissarming" them by slashing their thoats. When that didnt work they used the tunnels as graveyard for people form city on the surface, which sems as something army would do (similar to hospital at s1). For the camp itself, I think the people who lived in it did not have enough food for a long run, which resulted in a distrust in the comunity. Father upon seing this wanted to get his family away, but knew that the tunnels were full of Walkers, so he left alone to find a safe way. When he didnt come back, his wife folowed him to also not come back. When they didnt return, kids tried to go after them but got lost in the tunnels till they found army. As we saw in earlier seasons, army didnt really know what to do so after finding the kids and their camp and seing what his ocupants did (the rich guy with severed hand) they masacred them. This gunshot got attention of the hoard which came after them. While trying to escape, they blew up the tunnel to make another exit. And since we don´t see any army walkers i think they got away in a hurry, as indicated by the bunny left behind. (sorry for my english, it's not my first language)
I have a couple of theory’s about the tunnel I feel like the military were involved because of the bodies bags and it something that they would do because we saw bodies bags in season 1 at the hospital and other places. I feel like the military took the kids somewhere else safe when they saw the walkers or it could’ve been a gang or another group of people who cut those people necks. Here a good theory when Darly saw the money I thought he was going to take it or come back to it and use it in the commonwealth if one of the groups were in trouble. Great job on the video!
That’s a good theory but if it was the military why wouldn’t they just kill them outright? We see this at the hospital since all of those in the body bags were dead.
Military body bags are black in color, they look nothing like what was shown. Source: I was active duty military for 25 years with 3 combat tours in Afghanistan. I’ve had to actually use them.
@@medusagorgo5146 good point and dang good for you and thanks for serving our country! I feel like that’s something that they would do or it could’ve been paramedics or cops because they have them. Once again thanks for serving our country!
I agree with the first part of your theory of how people of different classes decided to take shelter in the homeless camp and having a class war/paranoia among them. This is also something the writers liked and did previously with the country club story. But i don't think it was raiders that killed them, as i don't think they would take time to wrap them in plastic. Since this is the early days of the apocalypse, i think it was the military that was tasked with cleaning the city of all dead and survivors. Maybe before operation cobalt, government tried to wipe every dead and civilian from washington D.C. to create a safe zone. This would explain both the plastic and the throat slitting. Furthermore, not everyone in the plastics was people from the camp, i think most of them were survivors found outside who the military killed and dumped to the metro. I think the kids actually made it out of the metro, but then later ran into the military outside, which killed them. I also think think this explains why a homeless guy was shot from legs while he was sleeping. The military found the camp and cleared it, neutralized anyone around with their rifles. Heck, it might even be the rich guy getting shot that alerted the military of the camps presence.
I always liked this episode, you got to see a bit of downtown Washington mid apocalypse that TWD never really showed, having Negan remember the subway routes was pretty cool too. I’d say who ever killed all those survivors down there probably wasn’t aware everyone turns unless the brain is destroyed.
One of the many reasons I love the last of us is that it’s set 20 years into the world falling apart and finding all the notes from people from the beginning or some time in between. Just always crazy to think about and I’m glad the walking dead does episodes like this
The briefcase handcuffed to the wrist might simply be a courier caught by the Fall in the subway on his way to deliver the package. He wouldn’t have necessarily even known what he was transporting. He would have been stuck with the briefcase at least until he could get to the right tools to get it off, but it might also have bred distrust among the people leading to them attacking him only to find useless paper money.
3:09 Interesting about that as in earlier seasons there were heads of walkers that somehow managed tomake throat sounds despite not even having any connection to any lungs...
Based on the use of plastic body bags and the sliced throats, it's possible that the people were taken out by the military just before the bombers hit the DC Metro Area. Everything that moved outside of the safe zones was getting cut down before the Military evacuated for Cobalt, and early on, it still wasn't that widely known that you had to take out the brain. This may have been one of the last "clearing" operations before the bombs fell, the collapsed entrance may have been from the bombs and the suit guy's arm may have been from scavengers.
cash has value still, first you can write notes on it and second it burns very well so while it has no value as cash it has value in what it can be used for
Not to burn, the chemicals used in creating the watermark for the print are very poisonous if inhaled in an enclosed area. The best you can do is write on the bills
@@Madcomplex toxic is breathing poison is eating and vemon in injecting, I had to learn it and simple honest mistakes drive me up a wall. Now its an immoral math you have to do for survival
In my opinion someone who didn't understand how to Keep the dead from coming back. Got Paranoid thinking all those survivor's would eventually turn into walkers decided to Retroactively take them out before they could turn. One night he killed them while they slept. You'd think someone would wake up and maybe someone did but he got the upperhand on them. It was probably the same person that made the messages and "art"
This is off-topic from this video but I really appreciate when you talked about the story of the couple stuck in that house i always wondered what happened to them!
I always thought that the Reapers killed all those people in the tunnel but the timeline wouldn’t really make sense especially from the decay of the walkers water-logged bodies. My theory is that either an unknown party raided the camp killing most of them by throat slits or maybe a rebellion happened in the camp between the poor and rich which involved in death. Maybe the rich wrapped the bodies of the poor viewing them as trash. As for the paintings, maybe someone who was upset inside the camp wrote those messages. The most fascinating ones to me was the crown people representing the wealthy like you said. I would like to believe Tom and Jesse made it out but most likely didn’t. The man with the suitcase probably had the case locked but someone broke into it after killing him but then realized the cash is worthless so they kept it. Tom could have taken the hundred dollar bill after he died with the case being open. I feel like it was definitely a fight over social class but I enjoyed the theory regardless! The stories are getting better and better
Hi Ty Could you do one about the public works building in S2 Ep 10 "18 Miles Out" where they take Randall planning to leave him there. I think it would be interesting as it looks like some law and order was maintained for a bit of time during the first outbreak during when it went down. It also shows some people living in the school buses. And at somepoint a attack inside the camp. Great video btw Ty.
I think when I first saw this episode is that when the dead started walking there were many people who left the city’s and these metro tunnels go everywhere under the city and away, and also in dead city, the military used the sewers the put the mass amounts of dead bodies, maybe they used the metro tunnels too. I can’t think of any other organization that has that many body bags. So I think that there was a homeless camp before the outbreak, and as people fled the city the stumbled upon it. Meanwhile near the beginning the military was executing people who they thought had the virus, via slashing there throat, early on many soldiers didn’t know what to do with the dead (FTWD: the stadium of walkers and people) so the military probably executed a bunch of people out of fear and desperation. The put the body’s in the bags and put them in the tunnel not being aware of the camp below. This is what I think the reason all the body bags were there.
As for the “if there is a god…” quote, it’s not uncommon for people of any social stature to end up unhoused, plus if you’re out of work a free place to spend time is the library. I believe it was potentially a well-read (or even not, as I’m more of a fantasy person myself yet I recognized the quote as something that had been written on the wall of a concentration camp iirc) individual from the tunnels who wrote it, either before or during the fall. If before, then they could have written that in response to numerous things- society as a whole, perhaps mistreatment from people if they were a part of a marginalized community, or for whatever circumstances landed them in the tunnels. If during/after the fall, then obviously responding to the dead coming back to life. For the corpses, it could be anything from “mercy” kills or a dangerous group rolling through & taking them out to take anything useful- potentially taking advantage of the unrest in the tunnels. Unhoused people can still have food, drugs, weapons, clothes, etc. especially after the fall, considering normal folks could have ended up in the tunnels and might have brought more supplies. For the briefcase, I feel like it being open could ofc be a simple example of showing the viewers so we can understand the unspoken story, but also I imagine someone wondering what was so important to him, opening it after death, potentially hoping for medication, food, etc… only to disappointingly find cash, something absolutely useless now.
Been a while since I’ve watched TWD and not sure if someone suggested this, but it’s possible the suit and briefcase man could’ve already had the suitcase handcuffed to him before fleeing underground. Maybe the reason he’s still handcuffed is he didn’t have the key to one or the other or both and whoever did didn’t make it down with him. So already distrusted and unable to open the briefcase, maybe that’s what led to his end, and explains why his arm was taken off.
I love how the 2 first episodes of Season 11, Acheron Part 1 and 2 brought back horror elements that were missing from the show since...what? Season 3 or 4?
All the spray paint on the walls looks like it was from Morgan. I was waiting to see the word "CLEAR" LOL Thanks for sharing these videos, they are very interesting and I really enjoy them all.
I think the crowns represent perhaps the light of civilization, the old world a rules based order, humanity and the like. Don’t lose your crown I think means don’t lose your humanity don’t let go of your morals of what makes you a human. You can see that the people who have them aren’t dressed richly or anything but the people they seem to be fighting off are crazed and who have lost they’re own “crowns”, they no longer care for the old way or the world before.
I really enjoy your theory videos, heck I love all your story telling. I check your site regularly daily for new updates. I watched this episode of TWD over and over I couldn’t make much out of the wall paintings except some kind of battle broke out between groups of people and the losers got there throat cut and placed in the plastic wrap. I just think the subway was used as a temporary grave yard in the early days of the apocalypse not knowing they would come back to life. But we’re going to be buried elsewhere soon. And life had to go on inside the subway and they didn’t want to smell the rotting bodies in the meantime
Feels like a lot of the dead might've been from the metro itself. Either people seeking refuge or commuters, trapped on trains in cramped tunnels on metro trains. The swarming dead, the groaning corpses of those unable to return home on momument day. Some survived, some made homes in the tunnels. Those too, die by mans hand, feasted on by those who's husks fill the tunnels with rot.
Thanks so much! It did take quite a few days. This is one of the few environmental storys that takes place over a couple episodes so it was a bit longer than usual
I think you were bang on about the undead army bring bagged that never occurred to me but now makes total sense lol 😆 mind blown ..I was thinking a serial killer or killers that were using the underground as storage for there victims and eventually everyone in the camp were killed and added to the pile .
I swear to my Cats these Videos are just to good🤝 like dang without you i woudnt care about the Walking Dead at all & yes i say that even before i watched it
I love this content it makes me go back and watch the episodes but I think the guy with the suitcase is the guy with the crown he promised the poor money if they kept him alive and then when they realise the money was worthless is when they turn on him and each other he told everyone when they're rescued he will help them because he was rich and the help never came his money was worthless also those bodies in the bags could have come from anywhere if the tunnel would flooded and they had floated around but that's just my theory but you're saying those bags are too clean rates of happened early on if that makes sense
I wonder if the writers actually figure out a whole story and situation, just to figure out what is left behind, or if stuff is just loosely set up in the environment by the people who make the sets for the show, and just put a few connecting items like the photo, bunny, and note on the money? Very interesting video!
12:02 you know what it could’ve been, a beta fish situation, like a 3rd party came in after the 1st and 2nd party did most of the work and had the rest finished off
the text at 9:53 reads more as someone loosing fate. I.e. someone who once believed in god, probably hoping to be saved from the "demons", losing fate. The "beg for MY forgiveness" part reads as someone scourned by god.
What if the bagged walkers were put there by someone that cared for them but wasn't able to put them down and decided to cut their throat so he didn't hear their sounds?
Interesting question. I love how you cover both the shows and the comics because I'm also a huge fan. Will you ever even though some of it's really well documented ever explore these sort of environmental storytellings in the video games such as the telltale games? Maybe some of the cut content from Overkill, the VR games ECT?
Going off the depiction of the mural and where everyone is I have a theory. During the initial days of the apocalypse many people took to the subways as a form of shelter from both the disasters above but also as a way to avoid the weather as we saw. I believe that the initial group down there was primarily a large homeless community. We only need to look to examples today of area of low commute/use where large numbers of people take shelter in abandoned area with tents and sleeping bags and all ranges of supplies. Coming down later I could see standard family’s who were not as used to the subway and would stumble upon these homeless survivors who may have been hesitant initially but would take a lot to start with in tho if you have a few initial that’s fine but as you gain more and more upon that… you might find a potential bit of resentment starting to build up between those who has little and survive off little, having to almost squander there supplies out to family’s who had more and consume more. Then, you throw in the final group. A very wealthy politician or person with maybe an escort of guards - maybe some military guys who were bribed with the money he had. Again only theory but going off the whole class war. You could probably find that while initially everything started off “ok” as a community, as time went on stuff began to go wrong. 1. The loss of territory to walkers. As more of the homeless and soldiers went out to scout areas and reported them unable to be expanded into, no supplies and such and very likely potentially lost to the walkers, you’d find a resentment starting to build as danger began to close in and potentially “leaders” for each of the groups began to disappear/die off. 2. Low supplies, large population and potential unequal favour being shown between groups. You would likely find that any hired guards, ex-military and so on would likely begin to take control and split up resources. And being that while maybe some of the families brought some down the majority of it would belong to the main homeless faction down low. As such resources would be take and distributed amongst the “community” and you’d likely find potential bias being favoured away from the poorer group. 3. Growing resentment could also happen between a community of completely different societal norms and I would not be surprised if those initially down there began to resent on those now stepping down upon them as new rulers. As for the body bags, I suspect that it may come from either: 1. The community down there initially already done this from the initial start of the outbreak, cutting people’s necks as to keep the silence of the tunnels and to avoid attracting other mobs, but also the plastic as to stop people biting them - you may find they may have been a bigger community or learned this the hard way from early experiences of people passing away for whatever reason down there with them. 2. Could be the ex-military guards or such brought them and passed the idea onto the group as to how they were initially supposed to handle walkers and the dead before turning. As for the fall? Well I could easily see it as being a growing resentment against the leadership and a boiling point reached by a certain group initially part of the initial group down there which lead to them killing the people who came down to join them. Being they would likely have more senior jobs over the basic civilians being that they’d have more “survival” skills, I could see them mercing many of these people during the night with the body bags used to be able to transport them after slitting their throats an to prevent bites. Would also explain the dead guy in a sleeping bag as you likely could of had him shot by anyone - could have been one of the rich guys guards just executed in his sack while they’d execute him for maybe being one of the vocal leaders for the “better off people” in the group. I could see this as also being true as vast majority of the people we see in the bags mainly seem to be of a more well off type of family and the occasional still walking walkers of a more scruffy like appearance
From what I can tell the body bags are clear PEVA bags used by first responders during extreme disasters and can be used for the examination of decomposition in a body as well as keeping in pathogens like disease or decomposition, So potentially some form of Law enforcement or paramedics were one on scene at some point, possibly even working with the military in some way, potentially even researching how the walkers decompose on execution victims after they turned in an attempt to understand what they were dealing with, probably finding the kids who led them to the encampment thinking they were saved, the most likely military aided research group arrived most likely deeming the inhabitants as a risk do to the unstable environment and clear distrust of the government based on the walls, I’d say they held them captive for a time before deciding to execute them all with blades to save ammo and to add them to the experiment, then when the tunnels stared to get overrun and flood they were abandoned and all supplies were taken with whoever was there, seems likely that the military would be working with paramedics and scientists to experiment on people in an attempt to find some meaningful data but likely never finding anything, morality leaves the room when you fear the unknown and no government is know for playing nice with people when it has an agenda and is desperate. That is my theory not a fully sound one but one I think could make sense given the situation, the mass grave and clear body bags seems very deliberate and planed out which makes me think this could have happened this way. Sorry for the essay it was just one of those 2am thoughts.
My theory : It was the work of multiple people who basically went crazy after the fall. It was NOT the reapers. Most people would have put the bodies to rest but they just cut the vocal cord & left them in the bag. It's some sort of a psychotic behavior. They also unalived kids which means they didn't really have any humanity left in them. "It comes for us" is written by these group.
I think the greenwood facility, from the ones who live. Would be a great, environmental storytelling video.ep 4, I wasn’t sure if I should come to you with this at first. But then, I noticed the walkers, trapped on the inside. As the building starts the collapse. I don’t feel like they came. From the outside. I was wondering if you can shed some light on it. If you have the chance. I would like to hear your thoughts. Also michonne, basically because you.. mid episode, we’re trying to make a argument to Rick. I bet these guys thought they knew it all to. Made me think of your environmental storytelling.
I agree with most everything except with the idea of it being a group of "Raiders" that wiped out the camp and made the bag walkers. The way they were killed, throats slashed and wrapped in plastic, every. single. one. It was done methodically almost like it was a "kill ritual" most serial killers indulge in. What if there was a budding serial killer living in that area during the fall and he saw the apocalypse as his opportunity to indulge in his sadistic nature. To me the huge pile bodies almost looks like a pile of "trophies" and the fact that the people would come back wiggle in their bags could've pleased his need for control. Maybe when the surface became too difficult to survive in the serial killer discovered the subway camp and slowly began picking off the stragglers one by one and adding them to his pile, while also picking off the people who wandered into the subway tunnels and adding them to the pile. The only thing piece of evidence I have for this theory is the graffiti saying "It comes for us." Maybe the killer was so prolific that the survivors saw him as some sort of monster, demon, or otherworldly beast. Then once everyone was dead our killer wrote that message at the entrance and left to tunnels to search for his next victim. On a side note how cool would a spin off about a serial killer in the TWD universe would be? Sure, he would be a horrible person hunting down survivors and communities and murdering without mercy, but it would be interesting nonetheless.
I think that Operation Cobalt made the survivors go into the station, only to be trapped (mostly) inside the station due to the walkers making their way in. They might have survived for a while but I think that the military might have cleared out some of the people there, and maybe raiders cleared the rest.
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I'm pretty sure all those bodies in bags were the people stuck living in the camp. Most likely soon after the class warfare, that's when the kids parents left. They probably ran into the group of raiders and gave them the location of the place in case they were survivors aswell. All those bodies had their throat slashed, most likely they were killed in their sleep then bagged and dragged out. The guy with the briefcase may have even "hired" them to do the job and deal with the homeless only for the raiders to turn on him. The last guy in the bag was probably the homeless vet who was trying to hide and was the last one killed. The hole in the wall could of meant nothing as the tunnel was collapsing or was created in secret to allow the raiders entrance while the small tunnel was sealed and easily defendable. It could of easily been a single guy as if they were sleeping killed then the last two were executed via a gun, looking more like a professional hit job than anything. Especially seeing as not a lot was taken from the scene.
How many body bags do you have access to right now ? None ? 'Certainly not dozens or hundreds. I've been USAF Firefighter, gone to emt class, a career spent in uniforms of max prisons and psych centers. Nobody has that many body bags sitting on the shelf just in case. This was organized early after the fall.
None of the money from the suitcase seems to be taken, if I had to guess the guy in the suit hoarded his case from others till food began to run low, thinking he was hiding spare food he was murdered for his case only for meaningless wealth to be found inside.
The walker in the sleeping bag looked like his fingers hand frost bite. Maybe that another group shot him and left him to freeze. The suit walker and the sleeping bag walker don't even look like they were at the same climate. I would say there are 3+ groups. The new and old homeless, The throat slitters, and then some other group who bagged the bodies after the fact. If the throat slitters swept through the camp like we'd assume they did why bag the bodies and why did they also shoot the suit walker and the sleeping bag walker? Then bag all the bodies expect for two? But who would have the equipment and know how to blow open that subway other than the military in some way shape or form? That was a very big hole and it looks like a whole other track segment
The plastic body bags look fairly recent as they still appear mostly transparent. If they had been subjected to repeated submergeance in filthy water, I would think they would be stained with grime an mildew and even partly filled with water. Perhaps it was a more recent dumpsite used by the Reapers after all.
But why would they simply just slash walkers' throat and meticulously put 'em neatly in body bags eh? Plus where did they get that much and what are the points of risking themselves putting bodies like that?
I wonder what the hippie communities and similar were up to - I’m 100% sure they’re probably dead, no question, but they would probably be some of the last to find out about the apocalypse (aside from the prisoners ofc).
I completely believe that the bodies were bagged by the military. Otherwise, where would your average person find that large of a quantity of the same plastic bags made for that purpose?
Some schmucks keep saying "Well the Reapers were ex-military so durr they have access to body bags", as if they are that dumb to just put obvious signs of a disposal site without it being a trap.
This was such cool imagery for the start of season 11, I wish this season felt more cohesive and wasn't so rushed because they really laid out cool themes for the commonwealth in this episode. The momentum just got so derailed by introducing the Reapers here.
If its that early in outbreak, someone would have noticed how closley he held on the case along with the handcuffs and would have wanted it too because just like he did, they too believed it would have helped. Just like at the prison when inmates took the time to kill other intmates who would turn on that. That early in the outbreak when it was likely hard for many of us to believe what was happening, or had only partial information. The bunny left behind could a indication that the child had to grow up fast and leave behind childish things, that learned and adapted to the new world. Unlike the child Rick came across in her pajamas with her bunny in hand. Holding onto childish things are innocents would no longer be possible in this new world. Kids would never get to be kids. Look at Rick kids, Karl had to learn quickly and the girl whatever her name was. They had to learn to adapt to the new world and no longer did childish things. Then again I stopped watching the walking dead so I could be wrong.
In the world and time of the walking dead, every abandon city, town, camps and building hold a history behind. At the moment the series goes on it dosen't tell what hapend in those places, let to us to guess what hapend. but whit the serie fear the walking dead on some episodes tells what hapend in the locations of the walking dead like the hospital of the first episode, the military base, the airports, etc and its interesting how the dots conectc.
The quote, 'If there's a God he will have to beg for my forgiveness.' is possibly inspired by the Holocaust as that quote was originally carved on a wall of a concentration camp cell.
Interesting thanks for the info. I wonder if it is meant to be written from someone within the camp if that’s the case
How would a man make God himself beg for his forgiveness
Man some people are sick in the head
@@David-c7x7kbecause in their point of view, if god existed, he would not have let something like the Holocaust manifest itself
@@shosc16God is like a father who let’s his children learn the hard way, he makes it clear what the right path is, but if you don’t take it, then that’s your problem
@@JCardo2502 rapture already happened and you weren't picked...
This camp was close to DC. My thinking is the guy with the briefcase full of money might've been a politician who was taking shelter in the camp. Maybe the homeless ppl or other refugees realized who he was and took out their frustration on him (blaming politicians during the apocalypse makes sense tbh). As for the other bodies in bags, I think that could've been part of some sort of military operation to dispose of recently deceased who were believed to be infected. Hence the reason they were in body bags. As for their throats, the explanation could be that it was still early on in the outbreak so the troops didn't know you had to take out the dead person's brain. For them at that time, cutting the neck would've made sense as a means of incapacitation and it could be done quickly/efficiently
That’s a valid theory aswell, I think it’s totally plausible the suitcase guy could’ve been a politician.
Yeah I was thinking this too
@Swell-Films I think the politician story would also make sense because of Fear twd. There may have been rumors that other politicians had safe bunkers or potential cures like in texas. They may have been breaking in to find him and then killed everyone else out of anger when discovering they were wrong.
The bodies outside being an early day dumping ground that grew with the bodies from the raid
Yeah, my thought was it was so early on in the outbreak/apocalypse that it wasn't known that slitting throats would only just bring them back. It follows logic with the body bags, (which is a similar thing we see outside Ricks hospital down outside Atlanta - so we know the military used a similar gimmick elsewhere).
I also think the 100$ bill was written on AFTER the rich guy had already been shot in the head by someone else at the camp, likely after they had gotten sick of his constant nonsense about how rich and powerful he was. (Like Strand said in Fear, the dynamics of who is in charge changed; being rich and wealthy in a regular society is great, but it doesn't help you in a zombie apocalypse). People (maybe one of the unhinged guys in the homeless camp) shot the douchey rich guy, popped open the case he was guarding with his life out of curiosity and realized it was useless money. (And then the two kids used it as a makeshift way to write that note).
The graffiti is the interesting part of all this. It suggests different time lines with some stuff written over the original graffiti... who the original artist was, and who the secondary person was writing everything in the black paint ... we can only speculate on.
The body bags really confuse the situation . While yes it could be a Military cleanup but then I remembered that when Shane was in the hospital he saw soldiers executing civies which were then shot through the head by the squad leader. So I feel like it wasnt the army since they looked to be well informed that a bullet to the brain would stop the turning process. Imo it was a group of fucked up people who probably infiltrated the camp and slaughtered them in theyre sleep. Its hard to piece this one together .
Zombie apocalypse scenario in metro would be so cool. But now it makes me question how convenient it is to live in a subway during zombie outbreak.
Yeah not having people to manage drainage and no one maintaining the structural integrity of the tunnels is enough for me to say no to living in it though as a fan of the Metro 2033 game series a part of me still thinks maybe it could be a possible “safe place”.
Controlling the stations and blocking the tunnels in certain places would be needed too
@@fazsum41I thought metro 2033 the moment I saw this I agree with ya
Best i can think of being done is one of the levels in the original left 4 dead
@@thelittlebosniaexperience8181 that was Dead Air or No Mercy, i know exactly what you are talking about just cant remember which of them it is, i just know you cut through the subway in it
@@fazsum41It was No Mercy that had the subway section. Dead Air takes place entirely within an airport.
Some of these environmental story tellings would have made worthy Tales of the Walking Dead episodes instead of what we got.
Thank you tales of the walking Dead that's what I was trying to remember it was called
Alot of these were turned into episode well webisode but they stopped doing that also kirkman was supposed to do a filler episode of the zombie in the tank back in season one
I got to play some zombie extras in this episode, the subway set was absolutely incredible and had a lot of cool details. It was so dark with our masks on that I asked Norman Reedus for the time thinking he was a P.A.
lol that’s hilarious.
Was there anything on set worth noting that didn’t appear in the final cut regarding these scenes?
@@Swell-Films None that I can recall unfortunately since it was a few years ago. Coolest cut detail in general that I witnessed during my time on the show was for Beta's death scene, originally Beta was going to continue to blindly swing and attempt to fight Daryl and Negan before pulling the knives out of his eyes and getting swarmed. I also remember my first night as a TV extra being the Hilltop battle where they used real pyrotechnics.
Dang bro thats realy cool
@@TD0150 Can't understand why that would be cut at all when what they went with was just a hands up "ok walkers eat me" nothingness. Then again I have learnt not to question the choices made in later twd for my own sanity lol
"dont lose your crown" makes me think of sanity, humanity, as if dont lose who you truly are.
Crowns are also a symbol of royalty; aka, a luxury or sign of great wealth.
It can symbolize that in this world, being kind and acting human is a luxury.
Daryl:
See dog run off
Daryl:
Fuck everyone else, go save dog.
Dog was always sending Daryl on a side quest
Well, yeah, they can take care of themselves. How does him being there, help them out of their current situation. And dog is important to him. He was there for him, at a low point
The reapers sucked as a plot line IMO.
I turn now, good luck everybody else
"Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time." -Cooper, Fallout
The set dressers who work on this subtle but important background storytelling derserve so much praise, it's always been a media job that's fascinated me.
This subway sequence was so good it reminded me of how good the show used to be in the first seasons
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I think the water park in Fear would be a good environmental storytelling video
That’s a great suggestion. I’ll definitely look into it!
Yes, that would be really good!
@@Swell-Filmsoh hell yeah
hey he did it
This aged well
One thing which doesn´t make sense for me is if this really happened at the begining of apocalypse, not many people would know how to use Walkers as a weapon. They probably didnt even know how to put them down, so they tried "dissarming" them by slashing their thoats. When that didnt work they used the tunnels as graveyard for people form city on the surface, which sems as something army would do (similar to hospital at s1). For the camp itself, I think the people who lived in it did not have enough food for a long run, which resulted in a distrust in the comunity. Father upon seing this wanted to get his family away, but knew that the tunnels were full of Walkers, so he left alone to find a safe way. When he didnt come back, his wife folowed him to also not come back. When they didnt return, kids tried to go after them but got lost in the tunnels till they found army. As we saw in earlier seasons, army didnt really know what to do so after finding the kids and their camp and seing what his ocupants did (the rich guy with severed hand) they masacred them. This gunshot got attention of the hoard which came after them. While trying to escape, they blew up the tunnel to make another exit. And since we don´t see any army walkers i think they got away in a hurry, as indicated by the bunny left behind. (sorry for my english, it's not my first language)
I have a couple of theory’s about the tunnel I feel like the military were involved because of the bodies bags and it something that they would do because we saw bodies bags in season 1 at the hospital and other places. I feel like the military took the kids somewhere else safe when they saw the walkers or it could’ve been a gang or another group of people who cut those people necks. Here a good theory when Darly saw the money I thought he was going to take it or come back to it and use it in the commonwealth if one of the groups were in trouble. Great job on the video!
That’s a good theory but if it was the military why wouldn’t they just kill them outright? We see this at the hospital since all of those in the body bags were dead.
Military body bags are black in color, they look nothing like what was shown. Source: I was active duty military for 25 years with 3 combat tours in Afghanistan. I’ve had to actually use them.
@@medusagorgo5146 good point and dang good for you and thanks for serving our country! I feel like that’s something that they would do or it could’ve been paramedics or cops because they have them. Once again thanks for serving our country!
They likely ran out of the he government issued bags and started using plastic from a big box hardware store.
im so glad there’s at least one person on youtube that makes cool videos like this 😭 it soothes the void growing inside me as zombie media dwindles
I agree with the first part of your theory of how people of different classes decided to take shelter in the homeless camp and having a class war/paranoia among them. This is also something the writers liked and did previously with the country club story. But i don't think it was raiders that killed them, as i don't think they would take time to wrap them in plastic. Since this is the early days of the apocalypse, i think it was the military that was tasked with cleaning the city of all dead and survivors. Maybe before operation cobalt, government tried to wipe every dead and civilian from washington D.C. to create a safe zone. This would explain both the plastic and the throat slitting. Furthermore, not everyone in the plastics was people from the camp, i think most of them were survivors found outside who the military killed and dumped to the metro. I think the kids actually made it out of the metro, but then later ran into the military outside, which killed them. I also think think this explains why a homeless guy was shot from legs while he was sleeping. The military found the camp and cleared it, neutralized anyone around with their rifles. Heck, it might even be the rich guy getting shot that alerted the military of the camps presence.
I always liked this episode, you got to see a bit of downtown Washington mid apocalypse that TWD never really showed, having Negan remember the subway routes was pretty cool too.
I’d say who ever killed all those survivors down there probably wasn’t aware everyone turns unless the brain is destroyed.
As someone who lives in Maryland, I can confirm that there are in fact Walkers at most Green line stations.
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I love these environmental stories man normally I'd just look at the walls and say oh there's some graffiti before moving on
One of the many reasons I love the last of us is that it’s set 20 years into the world falling apart and finding all the notes from people from the beginning or some time in between. Just always crazy to think about and I’m glad the walking dead does episodes like this
The briefcase handcuffed to the wrist might simply be a courier caught by the Fall in the subway on his way to deliver the package. He wouldn’t have necessarily even known what he was transporting. He would have been stuck with the briefcase at least until he could get to the right tools to get it off, but it might also have bred distrust among the people leading to them attacking him only to find useless paper money.
3:09 Interesting about that as in earlier seasons there were heads of walkers that somehow managed tomake throat sounds despite not even having any connection to any lungs...
Based on the use of plastic body bags and the sliced throats, it's possible that the people were taken out by the military just before the bombers hit the DC Metro Area. Everything that moved outside of the safe zones was getting cut down before the Military evacuated for Cobalt, and early on, it still wasn't that widely known that you had to take out the brain.
This may have been one of the last "clearing" operations before the bombs fell, the collapsed entrance may have been from the bombs and the suit guy's arm may have been from scavengers.
The "god will beg for my forgiveness" line goes *HARD*
I love it! ❤
It goes gay. Humans caused this shit. lol
cash has value still, first you can write notes on it and second it burns very well so while it has no value as cash it has value in what it can be used for
You just described everything
Not to burn, the chemicals used in creating the watermark for the print are very poisonous if inhaled in an enclosed area. The best you can do is write on the bills
@@Madcomplex toxic is breathing poison is eating and vemon in injecting, I had to learn it and simple honest mistakes drive me up a wall. Now its an immoral math you have to do for survival
In my opinion someone who didn't understand how to Keep the dead from coming back. Got Paranoid thinking all those survivor's would eventually turn into walkers decided to Retroactively take them out before they could turn. One night he killed them while they slept. You'd think someone would wake up and maybe someone did but he got the upperhand on them. It was probably the same person that made the messages and "art"
Super underrated youtuber
Thanks mate!
the hospital scene from the first episode might be good to look into
This is off-topic from this video but I really appreciate when you talked about the story of the couple stuck in that house i always wondered what happened to them!
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Ty your videos never fail to entertain me !
Thanks for watching mate!
I always thought that the Reapers killed all those people in the tunnel but the timeline wouldn’t really make sense especially from the decay of the walkers water-logged bodies. My theory is that either an unknown party raided the camp killing most of them by throat slits or maybe a rebellion happened in the camp between the poor and rich which involved in death. Maybe the rich wrapped the bodies of the poor viewing them as trash. As for the paintings, maybe someone who was upset inside the camp wrote those messages. The most fascinating ones to me was the crown people representing the wealthy like you said. I would like to believe Tom and Jesse made it out but most likely didn’t. The man with the suitcase probably had the case locked but someone broke into it after killing him but then realized the cash is worthless so they kept it. Tom could have taken the hundred dollar bill after he died with the case being open. I feel like it was definitely a fight over social class but I enjoyed the theory regardless! The stories are getting better and better
Hi Ty
Could you do one about the public works building in S2 Ep 10 "18 Miles Out" where they take Randall planning to leave him there.
I think it would be interesting as it looks like some law and order was maintained for a bit of time during the first outbreak during when it went down. It also shows some people living in the school buses. And at somepoint a attack inside the camp.
Great video btw Ty.
I think when I first saw this episode is that when the dead started walking there were many people who left the city’s and these metro tunnels go everywhere under the city and away, and also in dead city, the military used the sewers the put the mass amounts of dead bodies, maybe they used the metro tunnels too. I can’t think of any other organization that has that many body bags. So I think that there was a homeless camp before the outbreak, and as people fled the city the stumbled upon it. Meanwhile near the beginning the military was executing people who they thought had the virus, via slashing there throat, early on many soldiers didn’t know what to do with the dead (FTWD: the stadium of walkers and people) so the military probably executed a bunch of people out of fear and desperation. The put the body’s in the bags and put them in the tunnel not being aware of the camp below. This is what I think the reason all the body bags were there.
As for the “if there is a god…” quote, it’s not uncommon for people of any social stature to end up unhoused, plus if you’re out of work a free place to spend time is the library.
I believe it was potentially a well-read (or even not, as I’m more of a fantasy person myself yet I recognized the quote as something that had been written on the wall of a concentration camp iirc) individual from the tunnels who wrote it, either before or during the fall. If before, then they could have written that in response to numerous things- society as a whole, perhaps mistreatment from people if they were a part of a marginalized community, or for whatever circumstances landed them in the tunnels. If during/after the fall, then obviously responding to the dead coming back to life.
For the corpses, it could be anything from “mercy” kills or a dangerous group rolling through & taking them out to take anything useful- potentially taking advantage of the unrest in the tunnels. Unhoused people can still have food, drugs, weapons, clothes, etc. especially after the fall, considering normal folks could have ended up in the tunnels and might have brought more supplies.
For the briefcase, I feel like it being open could ofc be a simple example of showing the viewers so we can understand the unspoken story, but also I imagine someone wondering what was so important to him, opening it after death, potentially hoping for medication, food, etc… only to disappointingly find cash, something absolutely useless now.
Been waiting for the story about the subway tunnel great videos
It's my bedtime so thank you for this treat.
Another great video. I love the tunnel art in this video and tried to recreate it myself with screen grabs - very dark but powerful.
The mural looks straight out of the comic books
The "on the nose" virtue signaling was great too, really added to the lore
"virtue"
Been a while since I’ve watched TWD and not sure if someone suggested this, but it’s possible the suit and briefcase man could’ve already had the suitcase handcuffed to him before fleeing underground. Maybe the reason he’s still handcuffed is he didn’t have the key to one or the other or both and whoever did didn’t make it down with him. So already distrusted and unable to open the briefcase, maybe that’s what led to his end, and explains why his arm was taken off.
I love how the 2 first episodes of Season 11, Acheron Part 1 and 2 brought back horror elements that were missing from the show since...what? Season 3 or 4?
All the spray paint on the walls looks like it was from Morgan. I was waiting to see the word "CLEAR" LOL
Thanks for sharing these videos, they are very interesting and I really enjoy them all.
Love these so much
I think the crowns represent perhaps the light of civilization, the old world a rules based order, humanity and the like. Don’t lose your crown I think means don’t lose your humanity don’t let go of your morals of what makes you a human. You can see that the people who have them aren’t dressed richly or anything but the people they seem to be fighting off are crazed and who have lost they’re own “crowns”, they no longer care for the old way or the world before.
absolutely loving these videos! it's interesting to hear takes that I didn't think of when I watched the episodes
This was fun and super creative Ty. Fear the Walking Dead has tons of these stories told through scenarios
Thanks for the content! I always love deeper dives into environmental story telling!
I really enjoy your theory videos, heck I love all your story telling. I check your site regularly daily for new updates. I watched this episode of TWD over and over I couldn’t make much out of the wall paintings except some kind of battle broke out between groups of people and the losers got there throat cut and placed in the plastic wrap. I just think the subway was used as a temporary grave yard in the early days of the apocalypse not knowing they would come back to life. But we’re going to be buried elsewhere soon. And life had to go on inside the subway and they didn’t want to smell the rotting bodies in the meantime
Feels like a lot of the dead might've been from the metro itself. Either people seeking refuge or commuters, trapped on trains in cramped tunnels on metro trains.
The swarming dead, the groaning corpses of those unable to return home on momument day. Some survived, some made homes in the tunnels. Those too, die by mans hand, feasted on by those who's husks fill the tunnels with rot.
All good theories! Thank you for this new video, and please keep 'em comin'! 🖖
You put in some work on this. I had no idea how you would piece this together. Just another example of how TWD is not just a zombie show.
Thanks so much! It did take quite a few days. This is one of the few environmental storys that takes place over a couple episodes so it was a bit longer than usual
I think you were bang on about the undead army bring bagged that never occurred to me but now makes total sense lol 😆 mind blown ..I was thinking a serial killer or killers that were using the underground as storage for there victims and eventually everyone in the camp were killed and added to the pile .
Absolutely amazing video brother!
Thanks so much man!
Thanks man I needed something to fall asleep too. Love your videos
I swear to my Cats these Videos are just to good🤝 like dang without you i woudnt care about the Walking Dead at all & yes i say that even before i watched it
Haha thanks so much! Hope you enjoy!
@@Swell-Films Hey dont you mention it! I always enjoy these Videos especially the One about Monument Day
I swear to my cats is such a great phrase, I'm gonna yoink it for myself-
6:54 the guy on the lower left looks like a bo2 zombies character.
I love this content it makes me go back and watch the episodes but I think the guy with the suitcase is the guy with the crown he promised the poor money if they kept him alive and then when they realise the money was worthless is when they turn on him and each other he told everyone when they're rescued he will help them because he was rich and the help never came his money was worthless also those bodies in the bags could have come from anywhere if the tunnel would flooded and they had floated around but that's just my theory but you're saying those bags are too clean rates of happened early on if that makes sense
Awaiting Tales of Carol with much anticipation 😀
I wonder if the writers actually figure out a whole story and situation, just to figure out what is left behind, or if stuff is just loosely set up in the environment by the people who make the sets for the show, and just put a few connecting items like the photo, bunny, and note on the money?
Very interesting video!
12:02 you know what it could’ve been, a beta fish situation, like a 3rd party came in after the 1st and 2nd party did most of the work and had the rest finished off
How could the guy with the case die after the kids write a note on the 100 dollar bill
Can you do the gas station that the teddy bear girl was at looked like alot of clues that could maybe tell a story
the text at 9:53 reads more as someone loosing fate. I.e. someone who once believed in god, probably hoping to be saved from the "demons", losing fate. The "beg for MY forgiveness" part reads as someone scourned by god.
babe wake up ty posted a new vid 🙏
You should check out places like the Gas Station Camp from season 1 the one where Rick comes across the first child walker that was crazy!
What if the bagged walkers were put there by someone that cared for them but wasn't able to put them down and decided to cut their throat so he didn't hear their sounds?
Interesting question. I love how you cover both the shows and the comics because I'm also a huge fan. Will you ever even though some of it's really well documented ever explore these sort of environmental storytellings in the video games such as the telltale games? Maybe some of the cut content from Overkill, the VR games ECT?
That quote about god begging him for forgiveness is from the Holocaust. I remember reading it for the first time - brought tears to my eyes. 💔
Going off the depiction of the mural and where everyone is I have a theory.
During the initial days of the apocalypse many people took to the subways as a form of shelter from both the disasters above but also as a way to avoid the weather as we saw.
I believe that the initial group down there was primarily a large homeless community. We only need to look to examples today of area of low commute/use where large numbers of people take shelter in abandoned area with tents and sleeping bags and all ranges of supplies.
Coming down later I could see standard family’s who were not as used to the subway and would stumble upon these homeless survivors who may have been hesitant initially but would take a lot to start with in tho if you have a few initial that’s fine but as you gain more and more upon that… you might find a potential bit of resentment starting to build up between those who has little and survive off little, having to almost squander there supplies out to family’s who had more and consume more.
Then, you throw in the final group. A very wealthy politician or person with maybe an escort of guards - maybe some military guys who were bribed with the money he had.
Again only theory but going off the whole class war. You could probably find that while initially everything started off “ok” as a community, as time went on stuff began to go wrong.
1. The loss of territory to walkers. As more of the homeless and soldiers went out to scout areas and reported them unable to be expanded into, no supplies and such and very likely potentially lost to the walkers, you’d find a resentment starting to build as danger began to close in and potentially “leaders” for each of the groups began to disappear/die off.
2. Low supplies, large population and potential unequal favour being shown between groups.
You would likely find that any hired guards, ex-military and so on would likely begin to take control and split up resources. And being that while maybe some of the families brought some down the majority of it would belong to the main homeless faction down low.
As such resources would be take and distributed amongst the “community” and you’d likely find potential bias being favoured away from the poorer group.
3. Growing resentment could also happen between a community of completely different societal norms and I would not be surprised if those initially down there began to resent on those now stepping down upon them as new rulers.
As for the body bags, I suspect that it may come from either:
1. The community down there initially already done this from the initial start of the outbreak, cutting people’s necks as to keep the silence of the tunnels and to avoid attracting other mobs, but also the plastic as to stop people biting them - you may find they may have been a bigger community or learned this the hard way from early experiences of people passing away for whatever reason down there with them.
2. Could be the ex-military guards or such brought them and passed the idea onto the group as to how they were initially supposed to handle walkers and the dead before turning.
As for the fall?
Well I could easily see it as being a growing resentment against the leadership and a boiling point reached by a certain group initially part of the initial group down there which lead to them killing the people who came down to join them.
Being they would likely have more senior jobs over the basic civilians being that they’d have more “survival” skills, I could see them mercing many of these people during the night with the body bags used to be able to transport them after slitting their throats an to prevent bites.
Would also explain the dead guy in a sleeping bag as you likely could of had him shot by anyone - could have been one of the rich guys guards just executed in his sack while they’d execute him for maybe being one of the vocal leaders for the “better off people” in the group.
I could see this as also being true as vast majority of the people we see in the bags mainly seem to be of a more well off type of family and the occasional still walking walkers of a more scruffy like appearance
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Okay. Commonwealth ark explained next please
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From what I can tell the body bags are clear PEVA bags used by first responders during extreme disasters and can be used for the examination of decomposition in a body as well as keeping in pathogens like disease or decomposition, So potentially some form of Law enforcement or paramedics were one on scene at some point, possibly even working with the military in some way, potentially even researching how the walkers decompose on execution victims after they turned in an attempt to understand what they were dealing with, probably finding the kids who led them to the encampment thinking they were saved, the most likely military aided research group arrived most likely deeming the inhabitants as a risk do to the unstable environment and clear distrust of the government based on the walls, I’d say they held them captive for a time before deciding to execute them all with blades to save ammo and to add them to the experiment, then when the tunnels stared to get overrun and flood they were abandoned and all supplies were taken with whoever was there, seems likely that the military would be working with paramedics and scientists to experiment on people in an attempt to find some meaningful data but likely never finding anything, morality leaves the room when you fear the unknown and no government is know for playing nice with people when it has an agenda and is desperate. That is my theory not a fully sound one but one I think could make sense given the situation, the mass grave and clear body bags seems very deliberate and planed out which makes me think this could have happened this way. Sorry for the essay it was just one of those 2am thoughts.
fun fact: C Thomas Howell of The Outsiders fame was Roy
My theory : It was the work of multiple people who basically went crazy after the fall. It was NOT the reapers. Most people would have put the bodies to rest but they just cut the vocal cord & left them in the bag. It's some sort of a psychotic behavior. They also unalived kids which means they didn't really have any humanity left in them. "It comes for us" is written by these group.
Its almost like people turn into the gangs from Warriors after the apocalypse with goofy names.
I think the greenwood facility, from the ones who live. Would be a great, environmental storytelling video.ep 4, I wasn’t sure if I should come to you with this at first. But then, I noticed the walkers, trapped on the inside. As the building starts the collapse. I don’t feel like they came. From the outside. I was wondering if you can shed some light on it. If you have the chance. I would like to hear your thoughts. Also michonne, basically because you.. mid episode, we’re trying to make a argument to Rick. I bet these guys thought they knew it all to. Made me think of your environmental storytelling.
I agree with most everything except with the idea of it being a group of "Raiders" that wiped out the camp and made the bag walkers. The way they were killed, throats slashed and wrapped in plastic, every. single. one. It was done methodically almost like it was a "kill ritual" most serial killers indulge in. What if there was a budding serial killer living in that area during the fall and he saw the apocalypse as his opportunity to indulge in his sadistic nature. To me the huge pile bodies almost looks like a pile of "trophies" and the fact that the people would come back wiggle in their bags could've pleased his need for control. Maybe when the surface became too difficult to survive in the serial killer discovered the subway camp and slowly began picking off the stragglers one by one and adding them to his pile, while also picking off the people who wandered into the subway tunnels and adding them to the pile. The only thing piece of evidence I have for this theory is the graffiti saying "It comes for us." Maybe the killer was so prolific that the survivors saw him as some sort of monster, demon, or otherworldly beast. Then once everyone was dead our killer wrote that message at the entrance and left to tunnels to search for his next victim. On a side note how cool would a spin off about a serial killer in the TWD universe would be? Sure, he would be a horrible person hunting down survivors and communities and murdering without mercy, but it would be interesting nonetheless.
I think that Operation Cobalt made the survivors go into the station, only to be trapped (mostly) inside the station due to the walkers making their way in. They might have survived for a while but I think that the military might have cleared out some of the people there, and maybe raiders cleared the rest.
The suit was probably a business man who was trying to leave town with his wealth during the fall and killed
Or a courier who ended up still locked to his package when SHTF. His package just happened to be cash.
Im not much of a big walking dead fan, But watching your videos about environmental storytelling inspires me to draw stuff like that too :^D
Im currently working on a story that takes like, an apocalyptic state so your vids are really helpful to me🥺🥺❣️
I'm pretty sure all those bodies in bags were the people stuck living in the camp. Most likely soon after the class warfare, that's when the kids parents left. They probably ran into the group of raiders and gave them the location of the place in case they were survivors aswell. All those bodies had their throat slashed, most likely they were killed in their sleep then bagged and dragged out. The guy with the briefcase may have even "hired" them to do the job and deal with the homeless only for the raiders to turn on him. The last guy in the bag was probably the homeless vet who was trying to hide and was the last one killed. The hole in the wall could of meant nothing as the tunnel was collapsing or was created in secret to allow the raiders entrance while the small tunnel was sealed and easily defendable. It could of easily been a single guy as if they were sleeping killed then the last two were executed via a gun, looking more like a professional hit job than anything. Especially seeing as not a lot was taken from the scene.
Jesse could've also dropped the plushie while escaping id assume the body bags be the homeless population
Very possible that the children's parent's were taken on their surface trips and were made to give up the secret of their shelter to raiders.
Your great.
How many body bags do you have access to right now ?
None ?
'Certainly not dozens or hundreds.
I've been USAF Firefighter, gone to emt class, a career spent in uniforms of max prisons and psych centers. Nobody has that many body bags sitting on the shelf just in case.
This was organized early after the fall.
i think it was a follow-up operation after cobalt
None of the money from the suitcase seems to be taken, if I had to guess the guy in the suit hoarded his case from others till food began to run low, thinking he was hiding spare food he was murdered for his case only for meaningless wealth to be found inside.
The walker in the sleeping bag looked like his fingers hand frost bite. Maybe that another group shot him and left him to freeze. The suit walker and the sleeping bag walker don't even look like they were at the same climate. I would say there are 3+ groups. The new and old homeless, The throat slitters, and then some other group who bagged the bodies after the fact. If the throat slitters swept through the camp like we'd assume they did why bag the bodies and why did they also shoot the suit walker and the sleeping bag walker? Then bag all the bodies expect for two?
But who would have the equipment and know how to blow open that subway other than the military in some way shape or form? That was a very big hole and it looks like a whole other track segment
These are what they could have used as the one off stories for the tales of the walking dead show.
Hey mate, can you do one video about Beta on the 10x2, the place where he was want tell us something about this caracter.
For sure mate that’s a great suggestion!
The plastic body bags look fairly recent as they still appear mostly transparent. If they had been subjected to repeated submergeance in filthy water, I would think they would be stained with grime an mildew and even partly filled with water. Perhaps it was a more recent dumpsite used by the Reapers after all.
But why would they simply just slash walkers' throat and meticulously put 'em neatly in body bags eh? Plus where did they get that much and what are the points of risking themselves putting bodies like that?
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I wonder what the hippie communities and similar were up to - I’m 100% sure they’re probably dead, no question, but they would probably be some of the last to find out about the apocalypse (aside from the prisoners ofc).
I completely believe that the bodies were bagged by the military. Otherwise, where would your average person find that large of a quantity of the same plastic bags made for that purpose?
Some schmucks keep saying "Well the Reapers were ex-military so durr they have access to body bags", as if they are that dumb to just put obvious signs of a disposal site without it being a trap.
12:45 shit happens......
Could have been Maggie's group before Maggie found that camp
This was such cool imagery for the start of season 11, I wish this season felt more cohesive and wasn't so rushed because they really laid out cool themes for the commonwealth in this episode. The momentum just got so derailed by introducing the Reapers here.
If its that early in outbreak, someone would have noticed how closley he held on the case along with the handcuffs and would have wanted it too because just like he did, they too believed it would have helped. Just like at the prison when inmates took the time to kill other intmates who would turn on that. That early in the outbreak when it was likely hard for many of us to believe what was happening, or had only partial information. The bunny left behind could a indication that the child had to grow up fast and leave behind childish things, that learned and adapted to the new world. Unlike the child Rick came across in her pajamas with her bunny in hand. Holding onto childish things are innocents would no longer be possible in this new world. Kids would never get to be kids. Look at Rick kids, Karl had to learn quickly and the girl whatever her name was. They had to learn to adapt to the new world and no longer did childish things. Then again I stopped watching the walking dead so I could be wrong.
In the world and time of the walking dead, every abandon city, town, camps and building hold a history behind. At the moment the series goes on it dosen't tell what hapend in those places, let to us to guess what hapend.
but whit the serie fear the walking dead on some episodes tells what hapend in the locations of the walking dead like the hospital of the first episode, the military base, the airports, etc and its interesting how the dots conectc.
Well if the note was written on money then they probably did turn up after the rich guy died
I’d like a video of the first walkers notld type
This is the one I was waiting for, Ty.💯